09-25-25 - Eric D'Allesandro - Stand Uo Live - In Studio

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Podcast Summary: Holmberg's Morning Sickness (98KUPD)

Episode: 09-25-25 - Eric D'Allesandro - Stand Up Live - In Studio

Date: September 25, 2025
Host: John Holmberg (with Brady Bogen & Brad Vesely)
Guest: Eric D’Alessandro (Comedian)

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Overview

This episode features comedian Eric D’Alessandro, in Phoenix for a one-night show at Stand Up Live. The conversation is a lively, often hilarious mix touching on topics like appearances (especially hair), comedy audiences, generational and technological shifts, the impact of social media on entertainment, and the future of community and content creation. The tone is irreverent, spontaneous, and filled with playful banter.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Hair, Identity, and the Man Bun Stigma

[00:38 - 03:46]

• The gang pokes fun at Eric’s Italian surname and promotional photo with a man bun, launching a running discussion about hair as a key part of one’s persona.
• Eric: “The man bun gets a bad reputation from the people who have stolen it…like, who you picturing with a man bun? A guy with smelling salts, or Crossfit…that’s not me. I’m a douchebag from Staten Island.” [00:48]
• Holmberg jokes about his own baldness and the social perceptions linked to hair (or lack thereof).
• Memorable Comparison: “What would Uncle Jesse do without his hair? It’s part of his whole identity.” – Eric [03:37]

2. Comedians & Their Audiences

[05:09 - 10:24]

• Discussion on the diversity of Eric’s audience—from young dating couples to grandmas, and notably, a strong gay following.
• Eric: “Anyone? Man, I think every comedian believes they can play any room….I’ve had to win over every crowd.” [05:33]
• Both joke about how gay men are often more complimentary than women.
• Holmberg: “A woman has never told me she’d give me her car if I called her ‘daddy’—but I’ve had a gay guy do it. It’s an awesome feeling, right?” [06:13]
• On tricky crowds, Eric says the worst is actually a small audience: “If there’s seven people in there…feels like a focus group, it feels stupid.” [10:01]
• Holmberg counters that the hardest is a room full of country music fans: “That is a horrible, awful…if you walk out there and you see hats—get him out. You won’t even understand what you’re saying.” [10:24]

3. Technology & Cultural Change

[14:04 - 22:26]

• Segue to AI anxiety—Eric admits: “I can’t sleep at night…I love human stories. We’re already seeing movies disappear. I want movies to make a comeback. I feel like they’re not culturally relevant anymore.” [14:15]
• The group laments how the reference points in pop culture are all at least 20 years old: “Anything we talk about as a cliché or a wink and a smile, that’s all stuff from 30 years ago. We don’t have any references as of late.” – Eric [14:52]
• On generational sameness: “I’m wearing the same sneakers and hat as a 17-year-old. My father wore orthopedic shoes. Now, 40-year-olds dress the same as their 10-year-old.” – Eric [15:03]
• Jokes about language policing on-air vs. uncensored internet—Holmberg notes, “That’s why radio is gonna die. We’re still playing these games from 1950.” [16:04]
• Holmberg recounts a surreal new tech experience: drones at events directing people to Uber pickups. “That’s really Jetsons.” – Eric [17:14]
• They marvel at driverless cars and the pace of change, “We don’t even bat an eye that there are driverless cars now.” – Eric [17:29]

4. Society Splintered: Community, Loneliness & E-commerce

[20:10 - 26:30]

• Eric, now a new father, worries about recreating experiences for his son: “The world I wanted to recreate for him doesn’t exist anymore… malls, movie rentals, even community is gone. No more stores—everything eviscerated.” [20:12]
• On delivery and non-contact culture: “We got so efficient…when I’d order something as a kid, it’d take three weeks. Now, an hour.” – Eric [25:51]
• Holmberg admits: “Sometimes I don’t even want to get up off the couch to see if I have the thing I want…I just order it.” [25:56]

5. Aging & Demographics

[26:56 - 29:39]

• Spirited, tongue-in-cheek debate about living longer: “You want to live to a hundred? I call them resource suckers.” – Holmberg [27:08]
• Eric: “How grandmas have changed—used to look like Bea Arthur, now they look like Susan Sarandon…Life expectancy is going to be so wild.” [27:33]
• Lighthearted brainstorming (morbidly) about fixing longevity: “We start killing them…Bill Burr said the best way to do it is to just start sinking cruise ships.” – Eric [28:34]

6. The Rise (and Problems) of Content Creation

[29:42 - 34:25]

• Eric predicts a renewed craving for communal experiences. “We’re lonelier than ever, sadder than ever, more depressed—and it’s because we’re not with each other.” [29:49]
• Harsh critique of influencer/“content creation” culture: “TikTok and Facebook are selling you back the idea of what they stole…They’re giving you a little taste of humanity because that’s what they took.” – Eric [31:01]
• Holmberg and Eric agree that anyone can perform online now, but gatekeepers in entertainment used to keep standards. “I think gatekeepers were a good thing.” – Eric [33:39]
• On the content treadmill: “Being a content creator is jail…it’s miserable. The audience is not what you think it is. TikTok, Instagram, it’s not who you follow. It’s random things. I don’t want to see my cousin golfing in Scottsdale if I can see this Dodge Durango drive through a restaurant.” [32:07]
• Discussion closes with the idea that viral views are the new “Apollo Sandman sweep”—if people don’t like your stuff, it just disappears.

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Notable Quotes & Moments (With Timestamps)

• “The man bun gets a bad reputation from the people who have stolen it—you’re picturing a guy with smelling salts or Crossfit. That’s not me. I’m a douchebag from Staten Island.”
  — Eric D’Alessandro [00:48]

• “A woman has never told me she’d give me her car if I called her ‘daddy’—but I’ve had a gay guy do it. It’s an awesome feeling, right?”
  — Holmberg [06:13]

• “If this doesn’t work out over here, I have options…There’s always the B league.”
  — Holmberg, on being hit on by gay men [07:56]

• “If there’s seven people in there…it feels like a focus group, it feels stupid.”
  — Eric [10:01]

• “That’s why radio is gonna die. We’re still playing these games from 1950.”
  — Holmberg [16:04]

• “I’m wearing the same sneakers and hat as a 17-year-old. My father wore orthopedic shoes.”
  — Eric [15:03]

• “TikTok and Facebook are selling you back the idea of what they stole from you.”
  — Eric [31:01]

• “Being a content creator is jail…it’s miserable, it’s terrible, it’s not good.”
  — Eric [32:07]

• “I think gatekeepers were a good thing.”
  — Eric [33:39]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:38 — Eric & Holmberg riff on the man bun and hair identity
• 05:09 — Who is Eric’s audience? Comedy crowd diversity
• 10:01 — Which audiences are hardest for comics?
• 14:04 — AI, media, and cultural reference points disappearing
• 15:03 — Flattening of generational differences in culture
• 20:10 — Parenting in a changing, disconnected society
• 25:53 — E-commerce and the death of physical stores
• 26:56 — Joking about longevity and the burdens of old age
• 29:42 — “What needs to change?” Eric’s vision for renewed community
• 31:01-33:46 — Deep dive on content creation, social media, and gatekeeping
• 34:17 — The “Sandman” sweep for bad internet content

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Conclusion

This episode is a fast-paced, comic but thoughtful look at the ways technology, culture, and comedy have shifted, featuring playful attacks on social stereotypes and a serious undercurrent of concern for society’s trajectory. Eric D’Alessandro blends candid confessions with sharp social commentary, riffing on what it’s like to perform in a world that’s increasingly distracted, disjointed, and digital—and why we may crave a return to face-to-face community more than ever.

Transcript

[Holmberg]

You're listening to the HMS Podcast, brought to you by MMP Guns.com, your most trusted online marketplace for firearms, ammunition and accessories. Holmberg's morning sickness. The old method of treatment for a person in this condition was to throw him in jail. Stop cussing, you bastards. It's time now to talk to Eric Delesandro. I like this. This is Brett feels comfortable with your name. There's an apostrophe in it. You're at stand up live tonight and tonight only. If you want to see Eric d', Alessandro, you can go down there. I'm seeing it. We're making fun a little bit, I guess. Making fun.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Oh, go ahead, let me have it.

[Holmberg]

Maybe sort of jealousy kicked in.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

I was gonna say.

[Holmberg]

Yeah, that's what it is. That you have a man bun in the picture of yourself. But now it's just a striking head.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Of hair, you know, the man bun, I think gets a bad reputation from the people who have stolen it, you know, because.

[Holmberg]

Stole it because.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Who you picturing with a man bun? You're picturing a guy with like smelling salts or CrossFit. Right? Who's the kind of guy that has a man bun? Who are you thinking about?

[Holmberg]

Well, I'm thinking yoga pants, sort of almost annoying hippie guy.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Yeah, that's not me. I mean, look at me. I'm a douchebag from Staten Island. I'm not, you know, you don't do yoga.

[Holmberg]

But no matter what.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

I've done yoga.

[Holmberg]

Yeah. No matter what the category douchebag usually attached to it when man bun. Because you're right, the man bun has been. Yeah, it's. It's been co opted to a douchebag society.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

And that's not fair, you know, I.

[Holmberg]

Mean, there are plenty of decent man bun men out there.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Well, okay, you look like stone cold. Can I just assume.

[Holmberg]

That's fine.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Can I look at you? And that's a good, that's a good one though.

[Holmberg]

Is it?

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Yeah, for me it is. He was my hero, you know.

[Holmberg]

Then you're welcome. Would you like anybody sign some autographs?

[Eric D' Alessandro]

No.

[Holmberg]

I mean, I. Yeah, but I mean, I. I can't help it.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Yeah, you know what I mean?

[Holmberg]

I mean, you know, I have to look like this. And so you, you had a choice to get into the man bun pool and you did it.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

You know, man, if I knew it was gonna start off like this, I would've had a better excuse. Cause I have. If you wanna go down the road in my hair, we could talk for three hours. If you guys.

[Holmberg]

It's incredible. What you have is incredible and unfair to people who don't have weave.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

It's a pretty good piece.

[Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

It's the greatest terror I've ever seen. Those ones when they, like. They, like, glue them on. On Instagram. This is one of those.

[Holmberg]

I thought about it.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Yeah. I mean, come on.

[Holmberg]

I would totally.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

I don't blame anyone or make fun of anybody's hair piece or anything, because I always say, if that happened to me, I'm going to Turkey. You would do it.

[Holmberg]

Oh, yeah. You couldn't live the way I live. You look at music down on me because of my hair situation.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

When did you start losing your hair?

[Holmberg]

Well, I started to know I had terrible hair. Okay. So it was, like. Just was wavy, you know, it's really weird. Like, he's good. Yeah. Yeah. But when. If I was, like, 16 now and had my hair today, it would have been awesome because it was just messy.

[Brad]

No hair product needed.

[Holmberg]

I couldn't comb it. It did whatever it wanted. And then I started to notice I had pretty good u turns at 18.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Ooh.

[Holmberg]

And I'm like, oh, it's. This is. And then I realized early on, I'm like, you're not going to win this.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Yeah.

[Holmberg]

So let's get ahead of it. So I started shaving it off. Mid 20s. Okay. And I grew it back a couple times, but then I was just like, this is ridiculous. So I just go with this. It's much easier.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

But how often do you.

[Brad]

And then he got his nose. Nose job.

[Holmberg]

I added my.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Got nice teeth, too.

[Holmberg]

Thank you. I've been working on it.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Yeah.

[Holmberg]

And right before I die, it should be perfect. But the. Yeah, the hair thing is. Yeah, it was. It was never a problem for me. But I understand. If I had your hair, I'd be very upset if it abandoned me.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Yeah. It's just like. I mean, I guess it's an insecurity. It is my security blanket. If I. If I lost it, I probably would just, you know, give up.

[Holmberg]

You would.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

I don't know.

[Holmberg]

We would kill you.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

I think that'd be it for me. I'd pack it up. It's like, you know, it's. It's part of my limbs. What would Uncle Jesse do without his hair? You know, it's part of his. It's part of his whole identity.

[Holmberg]

But if Stamos, he. You know what I thought was funny? Speaking to Uncle Jesse. Oh, I know where you're going when Cool. Ye got cancer.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Come on, bro.

[Holmberg]

Instead of the Sympathy. This was the least friendly thing he could do. He put a bald cap on and Photoshopped it and. Yeah, and then tried to make it, but he was never actually really going to shave his head for his best friend.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

That's crazy.

[Holmberg]

It's mean.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

That's so crazy.

[Holmberg]

It's just mean. If you and I were best friends and I was going through that, would you shave your head?

[Eric D' Alessandro]

I would at least do a better Photoshop job.

[Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Or at least get someone on Fiverr.

[Holmberg]

Exactly. It's not fair to, like, put a cap on and go, I'm with you. I'm like, you're not with anything.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

No, seriously, that wasn't, I, I mean, and then Dave Coulier was being nice about it. It was like, stuck up for him.

[Holmberg]

But that was horrible.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

What else was he going to say?

[Holmberg]

Yeah, don't do it is what he should. Just don't even like. Yeah, come on.

[Brad]

I would have done from that mullet that he had for years. He understood.

[Holmberg]

Yeah, but I mean, look, he, he was going through cancer treatment. So you're trying to act like you're in his camp.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Is he okay now? Does anybody know?

[Holmberg]

Geez, that's a sad statement of it all, isn't it? Oh, God, nobody even checked in.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

I know.

[Brad]

I think, I think he is.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Anybody check on Mr. Woodchuck, please?

[Holmberg]

We need to know if Joey's all right. I, I, I've lost track. I don't know. I don't know. Gosh, I hope so.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

I really hope.

[Holmberg]

What if he died like a couple?

[Eric D' Alessandro]

It was just like, cut it out. And that was it. All right? We're having fun here.

[Holmberg]

You're doing full house jokes and I'm laughing. Something's wrong with both of us. Yeah, baby.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

That's my audience.

[Holmberg]

Eric Alessandro is at Stand Up Live this week. Who is your audience? Who are we looking at?

[Eric D' Alessandro]

I have no idea.

[Holmberg]

Because you're a married guy.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

We're all over the place.

[Holmberg]

Yeah. Who would you want your audience to be? You can control it. Who are you aiming at?

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Anybody who has attention span over a minute.

[Holmberg]

Okay. That's not too unreasonable. I don't know. You're not getting me right now, but I'm just saying it seems like you're getting a crowd.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Honestly, anyone? Man, I think every comedian believes they can play any room. I do believe that. I have people that come with their parents, their grandparents. I have people that come that are dating and are younger. Got a big gay following out here.

[Holmberg]

Okay, that's the hair.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

So it's the hair?

[Holmberg]

Yeah. So.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Really? Anybody?

[Holmberg]

Man, I'm not dabbled in that world.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

The gay world.

[Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

No.

[Holmberg]

I've hung around a lot of hairdressers. I can tell you.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

I. You know, it's one of those things where I've always been very, like. I love it. If anybody. Want a woman has never called me gorgeous. Gay men have constantly called me gorgeous. I'll take that any day of the week. So.

[Holmberg]

Hey, they're buying tickets. What the hell? A woman. A woman has never told me that she would give me her car if I called her daddy. But I've had a gay guy do it. It's an awesome feeling, right? I mean, come on. Anybody.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Nobody's. Open the car door for me, so, you know. You want to give me your timeshare.

[Holmberg]

I wish I was gay. I was born this way. I can't even. It would be so much easier.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

I think being gay now, though, has lost a little bit of its, you know, a little bit of its edge.

[Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

It's not as much as I feel like everybody's. It's gotta be more exciting when it was more unacceptable, maybe.

[Holmberg]

I guess. Yeah. It was kind of taboo.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Maybe for them. Right now it's, like, more private. Yeah. I feel like it'd be more fun.

[Holmberg]

You and I are gay. Like, let's think about this. We go out.

[Experian Announcer]

All right.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Let's.

[Holmberg]

Let's try it. Yeah. Let's give it a run. Stone Cold and the Hairdo out there playing some baskets.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Stone Cold, Uncle Jesse. The 90s. The 90s. Mole tour.

[Holmberg]

Next thing you know, we're playing some hoops. We go out, we grab some food. You blow me, I blow you. We take a nap and we combine our money.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Oh, my God.

[Holmberg]

It's spectacular.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Crank.

[Brad]

Open some wine coolers.

[Holmberg]

If it wasn't for all of the hair, the actual problem is the attraction would be the hair. Probably got extra hair. Places nobody needs.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

How's your ass?

[Holmberg]

Oh, great.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Oh, you got it. You got a hairy ass.

[Holmberg]

No, it's really clean. Like, my head.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Mine's really hairy.

[Holmberg]

Yeah. See that? You're out.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Is that a bear? Is that. Does that constitute.

[Holmberg]

Yeah, that's bear.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

I don't know.

[Holmberg]

This got weird.

[Brad]

Grizzly. Grizzly.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

I mean, you really hammered down. All right, let. No, serious, let's play this out.

[Holmberg]

It's funny because it's like. It's become so, like. You're right. It's not taboo anymore, which is great. I find it absolutely complimentary because, of course, it's like being hit on by A gay guy means. Oh, okay. So if this doesn't work out over here, I have options.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

There's.

[Holmberg]

There's always the B league, but, yeah, I can always place it. Literally. I can always play in the Italian NBA. It's a thing. That's what I'll go. It is the B league. Yeah. It's not. Not everything is out. Oh. Even though I think that's pretty much done. But. Yeah. When you have a gay following, do you feel like they're trying to, like, recruit? Yeah, No, I don't think they are, though. That's actually true.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

They're incredibly vocal, which, again, I don't really. I don't know if they think they can convert.

[Holmberg]

Yeah, they do.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

A straight man.

[Holmberg]

It's a man.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Well, that's just wild to me.

[Holmberg]

You think that there's a girl that's not interested in you that you could win over? They feel the same.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

I was never that kind of guy.

[Holmberg]

Really?

[Eric D' Alessandro]

I was always like, honey, if you're not digging this, there's something wrong with you.

[Holmberg]

That was very gay.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Exactly. Honey, please.

[Holmberg]

No wonder you have a father.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

The girls were jealous of my hair.

[Holmberg]

Yeah, well, yeah, that's true. That's true. Yeah. If I looked like. Yeah, if I looked great, I'd be like, next.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Yeah, I know. Yeah. Honey, your blouse does not match. So I wouldn't be, you know.

[Holmberg]

Yeah, okay, that makes sense. I get it. But if you ever had to pick your own audience, it would be like, I don't know.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

You do. Would you pick an audience for this show?

[Holmberg]

Yeah, completely.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Oh, okay.

[Holmberg]

Yeah. I want to get rid of most women over 45. Yeah.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

You know, I would just. I don't know, I've noticed that there is maybe, like, I worked really hard to make my. My audience more diverse. Try to talk about things that. Cause I, you know, I talked about being Italian, being from Staten island, and I feel like that I'm very proud of those things. But I do do feel like a one trick pony after a while. I want. I am more than this.

[Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

I think people think also in the beginning they were like, oh, if I go to see you, it's gonna be me up there doing like Joe Pesci impressions. I'm like, guys, I'm talking about life. You could come see me. I've performed everywhere, and so that's all I really care about is trying to, like, win over everyone. I've opened up for people in all different cities, and I've. I've. I've had to win over every. Every Crowd?

[Holmberg]

What. What audience do you get nervous? Like, oh, boy.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

You know, dude, when you're in stand up comedy, the worst audience.

[Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Is a small audience.

[Holmberg]

Oh, really?

[Eric D' Alessandro]

So, like, if I, you know, if I go to, like, if I run into the city and I want to do. Try some new material, I'm just doing a 15 minute spot and there's seven people in there. It's like, well, this is just a waste of time. It's. It's brutal. It's like, it just feels focus group. It feels stupid. So, like, I wouldn't. If there's a crowd of just a large crowd, I don't care who it is. I know that I can. I can win them over.

[Holmberg]

So the answer to the question, what's the scariest audience to do? Is a small crowd. And that's incorrect. It's a group of people who like country music. That is a horrible, awful. Oh, yeah. You don't want anything.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Okay. Okay.

[Holmberg]

It's just if you walk out there and you see hats, you know, we could simplify. Yeah. No. Yeah. Well, you can get. Yeah. You won't understand what you're saying.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

I don't know. There was a correct answer.

[Holmberg]

I thought you gave the correct answer.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

I would have said country fans.

[Holmberg]

You didn't study. That's the problem.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

I know the test started.

[Holmberg]

Yeah, yeah. Well, I had to get you. And, you know, sometimes you're not gonna get them all. Right. Yeah, but that's one that every time you're asked, what's the worst audience? It's country music.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

I was thinking about. Country is just. It's. Correct me if I'm wrong. It's just the accent right now.

[Holmberg]

It is. Yeah, kind of.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

But that's the only thing that makes a song quote, unquote, country.

[Holmberg]

Pretty much. Yeah.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Because you could have a harmonica, you could have a banjo, you could have a string section. It's just the chords can be poppy. Now it's just saying, like, things in a deeper a voice like this instead of just singing regularly and stupid stuff.

[Holmberg]

You have to keep it simple.

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[Holmberg]

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[Holmberg]

Experian. Holmberg's morning sickness. Yeah. Yeah. Like, this song is my. My example for what this is a hit. Show me your fish. Like a large mouth. Put a thumb in its mouth. I'm like, yeah, it's basically remedial math class.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Yeah.

[Holmberg]

It's all the people.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

You're like, every pop song is ever being.

[Holmberg]

Oh, sure. But they managed to take for bass pro music is at least kind of like a wink and a nod, like we know we're being silly. They take themselves serious. Like, america needs me. It's like, no, we don't. Yeah. So I, I'm. I'm against that. All other audiences are great.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

I've never, you know, what I've never.

[Holmberg]

Really had, but if I was you and I'd get on stage and I saw one hat, I would stop the show and I'm like, get him out. You'd hear New City. I would get him out. Yeah.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

The difference between me, I'm like, what kind. What size hat is that? Can I try that on? Can I pull that off?

[Holmberg]

That's what I would do. Let me try that on. Yeah, you don't want to be wearing that. Not with the gay audience. I see you dressed as a cowboy. Forget it.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

I don't know. They. They do like. They do like a cosplay, right?

[Holmberg]

Enjoy a cosplay. Yeah, you're gonna. You're gonna get kidnapped tonight. You better stop tonight. He's gonna.

[Brad]

Policeman.

[Holmberg]

You're a father now. You better not.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Hey, man. Daddy, you gotta pay the bills.

[Holmberg]

You're gonna end up in an incredibly well decorated dungeon. That's gonna happen. I' Eric D' Alessandros at Stand Up Live tonight, 7:30. Not staying for the weekend? You're going somewhere?

[Eric D' Alessandro]

No, I just don't think I could sell enough tickets. I think that's the real.

[Holmberg]

When I said, are you going somewhere? That's not what I meant. Are you actually leaving? No. You're saying you are going somewhere, like in that regard, but you just don't get the whole weekend out of the way.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

You know this.

[Holmberg]

I think you can do it.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

This was a late. We just added this later on in the year, so I'm thinking maybe that's why.

[Holmberg]

So is this a test run? Is that what they do these Thursdays? You get out there.

[Brad]

Brad.

[Holmberg]

Brad, is this. If he doesn't sell Thursdays, he's never coming back, you bastards.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Exactly. That's what comedy clubs do. It's like, all right, we'll see how you do. We're gonna give you Tuesday at 2pm and if you don't sell out, that's proof that you're Dog.

[Holmberg]

Which would be not working, man. Which would be tough if you were even Chappelle.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Yeah, exactly.

[Holmberg]

Like if Dave Chappelle's like, you get 2 o' clock Tuesday, sell it out or you're never coming back.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Exactly. So that they really set you up for success. At least Thursday's a good night.

[Holmberg]

You know, Thursday's a fun night to get to. People are already. They're not. Nobody works on Fridays anymore. They show up, but they don't do anything. Come on, get drunk and goof around.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

There's AI.

[Holmberg]

Yeah, it's exactly. That's what it is. Are you worried about AI at all?

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Oh, yeah. I can't sleep at night. Well, I don't know how deep you've looked into it.

[Holmberg]

Pornographic. Very, very deep.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

If you go. If you go down the rabbit hole of what it's. What. What's possible with it, what industries it'll disrupt what our lifestyle will. How much of our lifesty. It gets scary. I like. I love human stories. We're already seeing movies disappear and I want movies to make a comeback. I feel like they're not culturally relevant anymore. Any movie that we reference is 20 years old. And I just feel like we're talking.

[Holmberg]

About Full House, you and I, just a little bit.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Yeah, exactly. That's 30 years old.

[Holmberg]

Reference points are gone.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Yeah. Anything that we kind of talk about as like a cliche or a little wink and a smile. That's all stuff from 30 years ago. We don't really have any references as of late.

[Holmberg]

No.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Like I talk about this in my act about how being 30 isn't old anymore because culture has frozen. Like I'm wearing the same sneakers and same hat as a 17 year old. That's never happened in the history of the world. Like my father wore orthopedic shoes which looked like me as a kid. And like now 40 year olds dress the same way that their 10 year old dresses. And we're all on the same apps. We're all doing the same thing. Life hasn't changed. When my parents went from 21 to 35, it was a lifetime of changes.

[Holmberg]

Huge.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

You know. And then when I went 21 to 35. They call Twitter X now. Yeah, that's kind of it. There's really the same shit happening.

[Holmberg]

Oh, you can't say that.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Oh, sorry.

[Holmberg]

That's all right. It's okay. It's old radio.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

I'm so sorry.

[Holmberg]

That hasn't changed either.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Apologize.

[Holmberg]

We catch all the time. I'm sorry I didn't catch it.

[Experian Announcer]

All right.

[Holmberg]

Well, I apologize to all the children we have listening.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Yeah, I thought S H I T.

[Holmberg]

Now that would be A nor. I don't know if you can spell it either.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Oh, damn.

[Holmberg]

Poop. Poop. It's garbage. It doesn't make any sense. And they need to change that, too. Like, they need to get. That's why radio is gonna die. Well, it's because it's so far behind everything else. And we're still playing these games from 1950.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Yeah. I mean, people on podcasts are literally. They're showing, like, beheading videos. Yes.

[Holmberg]

And, you know, meanwhile, earlier I said.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

You and I spell sh.

[Holmberg]

You can't. And I don't know why I had mentioned earlier that you and I would play basketball and then blow each other. Okay, that's. But, yeah. And then. Yeah. So, you know, what are you gonna do?

[Eric D' Alessandro]

It seems a little.

[Holmberg]

That's what you think.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

All right, well. Gotta love a loophole, right?

[Holmberg]

Hell of a game. It's a hell of a game.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

That's a hell of a game.

[Holmberg]

It's a strange world, but you're right. I was talking about that with a friend of mine last night. When I was a kid, ColecoVision and Intellivision were like, the world's never gonna get better than this. Like, these old video game systems. And then it turned into, like, PlayStation. You're like, this is pretty awesome. And now AI video games where I can't tell if any. What's real and what's not. And I'm like, this is monumental. I left a baseball game last night and had a drone flying above me talking to me if I needed an Uber. No. And the cop was like, do you understand the drone? And I said, I do. And he goes, it's a test. We're doing a test right now to lead people to ride shares. And there's a drone just going, anyone who needs a ride share, turn right now.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

That's really Jetsons.

[Holmberg]

That's what I said. I said, I feel like I'm in a, Like a, like the Fifth Element. I'm in some weird, like, that happened to me yesterday for the first time ever. Meanwhile, have you taken a Waymo since you've been in town?

[Eric D' Alessandro]

I haven't. I've seen them all over the place.

[Holmberg]

They're amazing.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Holmberg]

And we don't even bat an eye that there are driverless cars now.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Yeah, man. I, I. A friend of mine used to always be like, there's never gonna be. There's never gonna be people driving. In, like, 20 years.

[Holmberg]

I hope so.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

We really don't think. Because we're more dangerous than the computers.

[Holmberg]

Obviously. If they were all on the same page, we can go anywhere. We went at like 150 miles an hour.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Oh, yeah.

[Holmberg]

Every car would drive.

[Brad]

There's a big accident. Like a glitch in the.

[Holmberg]

There won't be.

[Brad]

It's gonna be huge.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Oh, yeah.

[Holmberg]

No, I've seen the big stuff. I've seen the Jetsons. They have a. Like a broom and a little dustpan that comes out of the side and they clean up the whole car wreck and everything keeps going again.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

And it folds back into a suitcase.

[Holmberg]

Exactly.

[Brad]

A lot of them.

[Holmberg]

No. We'll be thinking about this for a lot. But how fast everything's changing when it comes to that. But society itself. We don't have anything we own. And again, I've always said that we only have politics in common, which is why that's all we talk about. Which is causing us all this grief and nonsense. When we used to sit and go, you seen the new, you know, Arnold movie?

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Yeah.

[Holmberg]

And we talk about that for weeks on it.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Yeah. I think. I think also it's. In a weird way, technology is just there. It's just software updates at this point too.

[Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Where it's like the new Grand Theft Auto is coming out next year. Everybody's excited about it. And like, don't get me wrong, it has better graphics than Grand Theft Auto 5, but not 15 years difference of graphics.

[Holmberg]

You don't think.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

I don't think so. I feel like we used to make leaps and bounds, but like we were kind of plateauing with like, if it's gonna start looking indistinguishable from real life. How do you evolve from that?

[Holmberg]

Yeah, that's true.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Like, if the video game looks like I'm watching NBA.

[Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

What's after that?

[Holmberg]

Hologram.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

It just stays there. Yeah. So I feel like we've kind of like, in a weird way, we're kind of there.

[Holmberg]

We're plateauing.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Yeah. And like it's leading to.

[Brad]

You'd wonder if that tournament were actually like, if you have the esports and you're playing with these and there's more people following the teams now that are.

[Holmberg]

But it'd be fun to listen to.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Something like that's going to happen. I feel like where there's like we.

[Brad]

Watch feeds into the actual.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Yeah.

[Brad]

Watching NBA.

[Holmberg]

I can't imagine what would come next because I couldn't imagine where we're sitting right now.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

I kind of just wish. I think my. My My parents are baby boomers and they are in a lot of ways not the best generation for a lot of reasons, but I feel like they were born at like the perfect time. Just as, like, just as Earth is really gonna be going down, they're gonna be tapping out like, ah, that's it for me. And they're dying at a great time. Whereas I gotta like teach my son.

[Holmberg]

You had a one year old and put him in this mix and it's just, yeah, you're right. It's not gonna be good for him. What'd you do that for?

[Eric D' Alessandro]

I. I regret it all the time.

[Holmberg]

I think about it all the time.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

I'm like, what? What did I do this to him for?

[Brad]

Every morning. I'm sorry, son.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Another weird thing about being a parent now, especially when had kids recently like me, is the world I wanted to recreate for him doesn't exist anymore. Yeah. It's not even the things I did with my parents, like when my parents were kids and then they had me, we basically had the same experience. We could still go to the movies, we could still, you know, go sledding and you know, all these little like nice things they had. But like our sense of community has been dismantled everywhere. We don't do anything together. Like, there's no more malls. You can't rent a movie, you can't go to the store anymore. Everything has been eviscerated. And I'm like, I don't even know where we're gonna go when he's like a teenager. Are movies even gonna be there? Yeah, he's. Bowling alley's gonna be there.

[Holmberg]

He's one. And you're trouble relating.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Yeah.

[Holmberg]

Imagine when it starts becoming people.

[Brad]

The movies have definitely phased out for them. I mean, the handful of exceptions like Marvel or something like that.

[Holmberg]

Other than that. And movies are.

[Brad]

There is not a passion for movies.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

I know, man. There was this. My friend just sent me this thing about how Gen Z consumes TV shows in clips online. They don't even watch the whole show. So, like they watch the office just through 800 different clips of the Office.

[Holmberg]

Right.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

They don't follow the plot. They have no idea what's going on.

[Holmberg]

They don't care about the subtleties or the nuance or anything else.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

I would argue that that's. That has to, that has to meet. There has to be an end to that. Because human beings are. We are a pack species.

[Holmberg]

Sure.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

We thrive with communication and being with others. And their generation is already incredibly lonely and not doing well. I don't know what the end goal of these tech companies is. It's gonna plateau and it's gonna. I think.

[Holmberg]

How do you think it ends?

[Eric D' Alessandro]

I don't know, man.

[Brad]

I was back. Goes back to old school.

[Holmberg]

No way.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Not.

[Brad]

I don't think it will.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Not completely.

[Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

But there has to be something.

[Brad]

Some of that stuff.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

There has to be. Cause you don't even. We've been. We've been modern humans for a blip on the radar, and we've had technology for. You can't even measure it with how long we've been humans. We've been humans for like 300,000 years, I think. And we've had electronics for what, a hundred maybe.

[Holmberg]

And not even close to what we've got. Like. Yeah. What would be considered electronics?

[Eric D' Alessandro]

So our brains are for the cavemen and we're trying. We don't evolve that fast.

[Holmberg]

On the one sickness magnetic update, Holmberg's morning sickness. I talked to my friend last night at the game, and we were chatting about the drone thing. And I said, you know what's weird? My dad's 78, and he basically got here, like you said, like, right on time for the kind of cool stuff. But a few years earlier, and he was living pretty much the same as Everybody in the 1800s. It wasn't that different. We had cars. That was new, but that happened. And I said, think of what's happened for us compared to, like, all this. And now think of what happened in his lifetime. Yeah. Like when he was. My dad was a kid, he, like, literally rode a horse. Places sometimes as transportation because it was easier.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Wow.

[Holmberg]

Because he lived in a really small town, he's like, we'll just take the horse. That was an option. Now my dad's sitting there getting drones talking to him. Is this real?

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Yeah, that's.

[Holmberg]

Brinkley sent me an email.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Yeah. That's a good age to have a drone.

[Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

When you're 78, he's like, oh, wow.

[Holmberg]

The future. Yeah.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

My parents live across the street. There was this guy, Lou, rest his soul. He lived to be 100. He was born in 1920. He saw Babe Ruth play twice. Wow. I would talk to him. He was the just. He was absolutely sharp as attack till he died. He died of COVID But he would walk every day. And I was thinking, from 1920 to 2020, I don't think there's a crazier 100 years where you could have seen like, that is unbelievable.

[Holmberg]

And you get to see it all.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Yeah.

[Holmberg]

So you got the information. You didn't just hear about, yeah, he.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Was, he was there. That's crazy. And if you look at, I always say millennials are interesting generation. Everybody thinks their generation is interesting. But obviously I'm more biased towards mine. But when I was born, growing up in the 90s, we still had the flavor of the 70s and like the 60s of like, we would be played outside and we, we had video games but didn't really take over our lives. The Internet wasn't really a thing yet. And from my, the time when I was 10 to 35, it has been such an insane change to where like, I don't think when Steve Jobs invented this, was he like, this is going to take every aspect of human life and destroy it.

[Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Literally everything about life has been destroyed because of this.

[Holmberg]

And you gotta figure out how to do it from here on. And I think it's weird because they.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Think, dude, there's a study, there's a study that they, when you went. When you go to a. They did a focus group. This group went through a museum and didn't take photos. This group did take photos. And the people who took photos remembered less.

[Holmberg]

They knew nothing.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Because your brain tells you, I don't have to remember this.

[Brad]

I got it covered.

[Holmberg]

I call this the handbrain. I call the phone the handbrain. Because you don't need yours anymore. Nope, it's a backup brain and it's better than mine.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

You don't need your brain, you don't need your community. You don't need a store, you don't need.

[Holmberg]

Well, now you're selling it. No community, no store. Doordash. Sounds awesome.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Yeah, it sounds great until you do it for a week.

[Holmberg]

I knew everything was going to be weirder the second they gave the option for non contact deliveries. Don't even touch my door. Just put it on the porch and walk away.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

What? I don't know how we got so efficient with these. When I'd order something as a kid from ups, it would take a like three weeks.

[Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

How are we doing it in an hour?

[Holmberg]

It's the same day.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

How are we doing it in an hour?

[Holmberg]

Sometimes I don't want to get up off the couch to look to see if I have the thing I want. So I just get. It'll be here in 45 minutes.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Are you all fans of just having no stores anywhere?

[Holmberg]

I kind of like stores, but I'm getting certain.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Okay, exactly. Everybody loves stores. You don't want them to go away. So we're all contributing to this.

[Holmberg]

I want the people Inside them to go away. I want the store to be mine.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

I don't really want that.

[Holmberg]

Yeah, I think I do.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

You say that now.

[Holmberg]

No, I'm pretty sure.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

This is like a little kid saying, I wish every day was Christmas.

[Holmberg]

And then he's like, kind of wish that, too.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

No, it's not good.

[Holmberg]

I kind of wish what you're saying is real.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Yeah.

[Holmberg]

Yeah. Last. I loved Covid. I'm sorry for your loss with Lou, but I love Covid because I got. I went anywhere I wanted, and no one was there.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Okay, how long does that last?

[Holmberg]

It lasted way too short a period of time. The freeways were empty. I would. I would drive in the freeway.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

What is. It was.

[Holmberg]

It didn't last that long and just goof around. I would drive, like, all the lanes. I was having a blast. I rode my bike to work.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

You're the problem. You work for. You work for Big Tech.

[Holmberg]

Yeah, I do. I do have to admit that sometimes I'm like, this isn't so bad. Like, this whole disappearing act of.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Because you're gonna die on time.

[Holmberg]

I'm gonna die right on time. Exactly. I don't have a lot left. I'm 53. I'm planning maybe 12, 15 more, I think. Anything. Do you want to live to be a hundred? I call them resource suckers.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

At all.

[Holmberg]

Yeah, we talked about it. There was some lady playing golf. She's 105, and the news covered her. And I'm like, all you're doing is pointing a camera at it and saying, look, it's breathing.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Yeah.

[Holmberg]

Nobody's like. Nobody's 105. And moving is the gift. I don't want to be that.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

You know, Dude. I say I had a bit about, like, how. And some people got upset. The women I was teasing got a little upset. But like you said, the women over 45.

[Holmberg]

Right. We don't need it.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

How grandmas have changed. Grandmas used to look like, you know, Bea Arthur. Now they look like Susan Sarandon.

[Brad]

Yeah.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

So it's like we lost that character that we all envision a grandma to be, which is super weird. And they're also just aging beautifully, but they're not. I don't think people understand that, like, the longevity of life. The life expectancy is going to be so wild.

[Holmberg]

It's stupid.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

In the next 40 years, I think my parents can make it to 100 easily.

[Holmberg]

But I don't want anybody.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

I don't think it'll be the way you're viewing. They'll just be hanging on I think they're going to be there.

[Holmberg]

But here's the problem.

[Brad]

Because of the advanced medicine.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Advanced medicine, they don't smoke, they don't drink. They're walking.

[Holmberg]

Nobody thinks about this. If we keep doing that, they'll move the retirement age, like 80.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

There's going to be no more. There's going to be no more Social Security or retirement.

[Holmberg]

Well, maybe that's a different argument. Let's say everything that's true, but let's say because of that, they're going to be like, well, we can't pay for that for 40 years. So they're going to make you work till you're 80. I don't want to work till I'm 80.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

So what do you suggest we do?

[Holmberg]

We start killing them. We start putting bombs in cars, Killing old people?

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Bill Burr said the best way to do it is to just start sinking cruise ships.

[Holmberg]

That's it. Put some torpedoes on the sides of some Royal Caribbean and let's get this started. Yeah, I think that that's very true.

[Brad]

Another Viking cruise went down.

[Holmberg]

I see old people and I'm just like, look at them, sucking up my resources.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

You know, there's. There's something to be said about that.

[Holmberg]

Yeah. You know, because it's factual.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Yeah.

[Holmberg]

Yeah. People hate that.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

What are we doing here?

[Holmberg]

We were only designed initially to live, like, 38 years.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Oh, yeah, dude. I'm on my way out.

[Holmberg]

Yeah, you're about done.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Yeah, that's it. I'm packing.

[Holmberg]

How do I feel? Way past that.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

And I'm looking at you like, look at this guy wasting machines. He doesn't even have hair.

[Holmberg]

I still have a job at least once. I quit, and I'm like, I'm going to retire and walk around for 40 years and just sack it up. No, get me on that ship and.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Sell some kid your house that you paid $6 for $2 million off of it.

[Holmberg]

Eric D' Alessandro is at Stand Up Live just tonight, and if he doesn't sell tickets, he'll never be back. So it's up to you guys to make sure this place is packed up. And he does. Well, because we need you to come back, Eric. Save the world. Tell us something you would change. Change at all. Give us words of wisdom.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Oh, wow. Yeah. That's not a loaded question.

[Holmberg]

No, it isn't at all. And it can't be. Kill the old people. That's mine.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

I think I'm predicting some communal experience will have a resurgence. Like the 1950s had bowling. We need something that people pickleball kind of a thing. Yeah, but like we're lonelier than ever, we're sadder than ever, we're more depressed than ever and it's because we're not with each other. And it sounds super cheesy, but that's the truth. You can't like, I think. What is the saying? It's not a saying, it's a statistic that like a certain percentage of communication is through like being in someone's looking him in the eyes and getting their body language and like, so that's a serious problem. And one of my things now that's like super dark is I'm like telling my wife this when she watches girls on TikTok who are just living their lives and it's like, here's what I bought from Target. Let's unpack my bag. It's like Mr. Rogers did this. Yeah, but this isn't entertainment. This is just us watching other people. Which is like a Stockholm syndrome of them being like, well, no, I like, I like her cuz she's just like me. It's like, no, no, no. TikTok and Facebook are selling you back the idea of what they stole from you. Like they're giving you a little taste of humanity because that's what they took from you.

[Holmberg]

Interesting.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

So there you relate to this girl because you have no one else to relate to.

[Holmberg]

That's very interesting points. Yeah, I like that. That's very true. And I've always con. I always say that TikTok is now just. What they always said is don't confuse motion with or don't confuse energy with entertainment or talent. I have and it's just people moving around and they're like, oh, they're doing something. So that must be entertaining, especially because it's on a screen. So for years we were indoctrinated to think if you're on a screen, you must be entertaining.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Now we are now, I think the. One of the worst things that has happened and this is what I'm hoping will change. But like, as someone who got a bigger following in my start of my career from social media, there was a small window when it was for people who knew how to. I don't want this to sound pretentious, like I think I'm better than anyone, but I've been editing since. For 20 years. I've been in front of a camera for 20 years. I've been like honing this craft of comedy for my entire life. So like I knew how to write and edit and act in things. It Wasn't just me being like, record anything and post 12 times a day. Like, that's not valuable to anyone.

[Brad]

It's volume, man. You gotta keep posting.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

And that's what the companies want. Of course the companies want that because they need to feed the machine. So, like, they've convinced young people that this is how you get to freedom to, like, oh, be a content creator. Being a content creator is jail. It's miserable, it's terrible, it's not good. The audience is not what you think it is. Like, I come from it. Like, it's not sustainable. People see you, they laugh, they scroll. There was a moment, and I'm very lucky to have come up in that time where you could curate a fan base because people, like, followed you. Now, followers, it doesn't really mean anything. They don't see. You go on TikTok and it's a for you page. It's not who you follow. You go on Instagram, it's not who you follow.

[Holmberg]

You're following yourself.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

It's just random things. It's like, I don't want to see my cousin golfing in Scottsdale. If I could see this Dodge Durango drive through a restaurant. That's what you're competing with. Wow.

[Holmberg]

I watched both of those.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Yeah, it's crazy.

[Holmberg]

Yeah, it's crazy. But Frank Caliendo and I talked about this a while ago, and he basically said the greatest phrase. He goes, there's no gatekeeper now, whereas before entertainment had a gatekeeper. You could present yourself somewhere and someone would be like, that's not good enough. Yes, there's. That doesn't exist anymore. It's all up to you whether or not you're gonna present.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

I'm working hard on. On my own show that I'm making for my YouTube channel, and I'm trying to produce 12 episodes before I release any. And one of them is about that, about how we don't have entertainment, we have content. And I actually make an argument for. I think gatekeepers were a good thing.

[Holmberg]

Awesome.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Yeah. Because it's like, we see what we do. It's not good.

[Holmberg]

It's not. Go to Walmart.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Yeah.

[Holmberg]

You don't want to see these people doing stuff at home.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

It's people who have turned the most beautiful art form, which is, you know, cinema, into someone just recording themselves, do anything. And that's not art. That's. That's nothing.

[Holmberg]

Only fans.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

It's distraction. Yeah, it's a distraction.

[Brad]

The Instagram, TikTok, Sandman.

[Holmberg]

Yeah, we need to sweep them off the stage. Yeah. The world to be more like the Apollo Amateur Night.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

I think. I think so. I think that will burn out.

[Holmberg]

Wouldn't it be great if the computer did have a sandman? If the thing just swept this thing off the screen?

[Eric D' Alessandro]

It does.

[Holmberg]

It's called Zero views. Yeah, it's called Zero views in your thumb. Eric d'. Alessandro. It's good to meet you, man. Pleasure. Good luck to you. I hope tonight goes well, and I'm sure we'll see you again.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

Thank you so much for having me.

[Holmberg]

It's 98 KUPD.

[Eric D' Alessandro]

It's not weird. It's pretty cool, actually.

[Holmberg]

No membership fees. I have heard enough of this.