12-12-25 - World Cup Tickets Will Start At 8k - Man Facing Manslaughter Charges For Leaving Hiking Partner Behind To Get Help And She Died - Learning That Free Ice Cream On Cruises Means Someone Died

Summary

Episode Overview

Date: December 12, 2025
Podcast: Holmberg's Morning Sickness (Arizona’s #1 Morning Radio Show, 98 KUPD)
Hosts: John Holmberg, Brady Bogen, Bret Vesely, Dick Toledo
Main Theme:
A classic, raucous episode exploring hot sports topics (aging stars in pro sports, World Cup ticket prices/economics), moral and legal dilemmas in extreme situations (manslaughter after leaving a hiking partner behind), gender economics and equality, and the weird realities behind cruise ship protocols—all with the show’s trademark irreverence and sharp sarcasm.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Old Athletes Making Comebacks—A Symptom of Sports’ Decline?

• John Holmberg kicks off with a frank rant about the recent trend of veteran quarterbacks being considered for returns to the NFL (Philip Rivers, Tom Brady), expressing outright disdain for “old guy” comeback stories.
  • “Anyone who believes that when people who are old do well in a sport that it's good for the age person, it isn't. It means the sport's broken.” (03:00, Holmberg)
• View that sports should feature “the best possible talent”—so if a 48-year-old is the best option, something is wrong with the game.
• Extends this to other sports: Phil Mickelson’s win, George Foreman’s late-career championship.
• Turns morbidly comedic:
  • “I hope his spleen falls out… I hope instead of CTE he gets Alzheimer's knocked into him on the field.” (03:21, Holmberg)
• Argues that rooting for “old hero” moments only sets up the tragedy of witnessing a beloved athlete get hurt or die on the field/ring.

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2. World Cup Ticket Prices and the Economic Inequality of Soccer

• Holmberg investigates attending the World Cup: Face value lower-bowl tickets are $8,000; secondary market prices may reach $50–$75K per seat!
  • “FIFA is charging $8,000 a ticket, face value for just lower bowl, not sweets, not anything else.” (07:56, Holmberg)
• FIFA’s World Cup generates an estimated $80 billion in revenue, dwarfing the GDP of many countries (Afghanistan makes only $11 billion/year).
  • “$80 billion. 109 countries don't make that much money.” (09:03, Holmberg)
• Champions a free-market stance: If people pay, it’s priced appropriately (“Nobody stands outside a Lamborghini dealership… You just didn't have enough to buy it.”)
• Sharp segue into the equal pay debate: The men’s event generates $80B, women’s $6B max.
  • “Ladies are like, we need to be paid the same as the men. No, you don't. You need to be paid… like 14 times less.” (10:57, Holmberg)
• Satirical analogy with a lemonade stand:
  • “If I made $80 at the lemonade stand and you made six, why would we split that evenly?” (11:32, Holmberg)

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3. Gender, Responsibility, and the Hiking Manslaughter Controversy

• The crew discusses a real court case where a man faces manslaughter charges for leaving an ill-equipped girlfriend to seek help in the Austrian Alps; she died of hypothermia.
• Blistering back-and-forth on personal responsibility vs. legal/moral obligations:
  • “They can get us to go to jail now just for being better than them.” (20:12, Holmberg)
  • “If you say yes to climbing a Swiss Alp, you're in on it. You're not my responsibility. If you freeze to death…and you got in it, your fault.” (26:00, Holmberg)
• Parody of the “climbing code” (whether you’re supposed to stay and die with your partner or save yourself).
• Gender reversal—observes that if a male died, the woman would be called a hero for going for help; men are penalized for “not dying with her.”
  • “If a woman hiker goes up a hill and a dude dies, nobody's ever gonna know she killed him. He just wasn't as good as her. We accept it… She’d be a hero.” (21:43, Holmberg)

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4. Cruise Ship Freezer Morbidity: “Free Ice Cream Means Someone Died”

• Creepy industry secret: When cruise ships offer free ice cream, it’s likely they’re using the freezer for a body because their small morgues are full.
  • “If we ever do a free ice cream giveaway, we're using the freezer for a body.” (35:11, Holmberg quoting a former cruise line worker)
• Discussion about how common cruise ship deaths are (especially among older passengers), how bodies are handled on board, and the black humor among crew: Carnival marks deaths by playing Boys II Men songs.
• Hilarious, dark cruise ship eulogies riffing on this—how Carnival would “say goodbye to Rallo.” (37:04)
• Details on freezer cleaning: Just bleach, defrost, and refreeze—“does the work for itself.” (39:42, Holmberg)

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Notable Quotes and Moments (with Timestamps)

• On sports and age:
  • “When a 48-year-old is the best option, something's broken in the game.” (02:50, Holmberg)
  • “Stop putting old people in positions that are going to get them killed and acting like we want to see it. We don't.” (06:25, Holmberg)
• On World Cup ticketing:
  • “$80 billion…and I'm not a mathematician, is more…by at least half. I don't know numbers. I'm not Asian. I need an abacus and a guy named Kim.” (10:16, Holmberg—crude joke)
  • “If you can't afford it, it’s not their fault… Nobody ever stands outside the Lamborghini dealership going, this is out of control. You're charging too much.” (08:58, Holmberg)
• On male/female double standards and hiking:
  • “You climb the Alps. It's every man for himself.” (29:35, Holmberg)
  • “He should have bought me a better coat.”
    “You got a job?... No. Buy your own coat. Ask a couple questions. Is this coat good enough?” (33:48–34:07, Sarah/Holmberg)
• On cruise deaths and ice cream:
  • “‘If we ever do an ice cream giveaway, it means we’re using the freezer for a body.’” (35:11, Holmberg)

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Major Segments (with Timestamps)

• [01:20–06:00]—Old athletes returning; sports and age rant
• [06:00–12:00]—World Cup ticket costs, FIFA economics, pay equity satire
• [14:00–22:00]—Austrian mountain manslaughter, morals, and climbing “codes”
• [34:20–38:00]—Cruise ship deaths and the freezer/ice cream code
• [39:35–41:00]—Cleaning up after a cruise ship body in a freezer
• [41:10+]—Music talk, audience song requests, and wrap-up banter

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Tone & Style

• Fast, sarcastic, highly irreverent, and topical, blending dark humor with real social commentary
• Blunt opinions on gender and cultural norms, sports, and human nature, sometimes walking the line of political correctness

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

This show delivers pointed social commentary on sports, money, and modern morality—with no sacred cows and plenty of gallows humor. Expect unflinching opinions, relentless teasing, and rapid-fire banter. The hosts argue that:

• Celebrating old athletes’ returns signals decline, not inspiration.
• Sky-high World Cup ticket prices are justified by demand and massive revenue, and economics—not fairness—should drive the pay debate between men's and women's sports.
• In life-or-death situations (like mountain climbing), personal responsibility trumps society’s desire for heroes or martyrs—gender bias still affects how these situations are judged.
• Even pleasure cruises have dark secrets, and sometimes your free ice cream is hiding a literal cold case.

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Memorable, brash, and full of quotable moments, this episode of Holmberg’s Morning Sickness keeps the laughs (and uncomfortable truths) coming.

Transcript

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[John Holmberg]

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[Narrator/Interjector]

Holmberg's morning sickness. The old method of treatment for a person in this condition was to throw him in jail.

[John Holmberg]

Good. Screw them. I say. Brittany are talking about the Mets. We don't care about them. It is 6:46. Thanks miles to nowhere. Only three more of those to go. And then we put them to bed and start 20. Great theme song there. Excellent job ladies and gentlemen. It is. And then we're talking about sports and I'm so sick of and I have to put it out there. I hate it. I hate it with a passion that all this Philip Rivers attention's being paid to this old 44 year old quarterback. And then yesterday they started asking Tom Brady, you think you Colin coward jackass do you think you would play like you could still make a team like do some drives and like on an offense you're familiar with You Oh, Tom Brady's like, absolutely. I could get right back in there and lead teams to. I'm like, stop. I can't because I own the Raiders and you're not allowed to unretire if you've had ownership stake. And I'm like, the last thing we need to do is start asking 48 year olds to come back into sports. That's not extraordinary. Anyone who believes that when people who are old do well in a sport that it's good for the age person, it isn't. It means the sport's broken. It doesn't mean suddenly you can do more. You can't. I like my sports to be extraordinary with the best possible talent. And when a 48 year old is the best option, something's broken in the game. Everybody remember old guys sell them. All those T shirts at Walgreens, all those little things on Instagram said old dudes do it better. 53 and still awesome. It's like, no, not like you used to quit it. And when Phil Mickelson won the PGA Championship and every like, it's great. So score one for the old fellas. I'm like, no, your game's broken. Your game is broke. If Steve Carlton just all of a sudden came back and threw like a two hit shutout, you'd be like, what's wrong with baseball? It doesn't mean it's good. So Philip Rivers, I hope he gets his head knocked off Sunday and just teaches everybody, teaches everybody the lesson. Stop it, old guys. And there's 205 schools in college. There's three quarterbacks per pro team on average, including the practice squad. That makes 90 in the pros and what, 600 college quarterbacks. The best option you've got is five years retired, 44 year old. There isn't anybody who just barely got cut that you could know. I hope he gets, I hope his spleen falls out. I hope, I hope instead of CTE he gets Alzheimer's knocked into him on the field.

[Chris]

Get these old eyes on that game.

[John Holmberg]

Get. And that's the NFL's goal, is to get older guys to go. We love it because you're watching. Anyway. I hate when old people do well in sports and I'm nine years older than this guy. I'm like, put it up. Knock it off. Leave it to them. I do not want to watch old men struggle. And you know what's going to happen one of these days? These rah rah stories.

[Chris]

Great.

[John Holmberg]

George Foreman was a world champion. He was 48 years old. Remember Phil Mix? The one is at 51. He's going to go out there and you're going to watch an old man die, and that's what's going to have to stop this. And maybe I'm, I'm rooting for that this weekend. The Colts have a tough game, too, which is even better. So if they just, if we finally just put this to rest. Dip, dip, dip, dip. Let's just roll out an old man. Just have him just halved. Just. He gets hit in the hips and his hold and it blows up and he gets an infection. He's in a. And he has to go. We have to put him down. Totally fine with that. Because then you stop asking Tom Brady. I'm not. Steelers have Aaron Rogers crowd around him.

[Chris]

That's his family.

[John Holmberg]

I'm fine with Aaron Rodgers getting plastered. I, I, Aaron Rodgers is 42. He's too old to be in the game, but he's in there is what we've got. So you root, but you know this is not the best option in the world to have an old quarterback like that. Brutal. Just stop it. And please, for God's sakes, don't start bringing Tom Brady back into the mix. He's 48. He's magic. No. And if you do, put him out there, because I remember his last couple seasons weren't good. Won the Super bowl in 2020 and then hung around a year or two. It was like. And they're like, oh, the team around him wasn't very good. Stop it. He was 45. Make it end.

[Brett Vesley]

Might as well bring Jordan back to right.

[John Holmberg]

He tried at the end there with the Wizards and no one remembers it because it was sad. I think I'm Omega Combat. There's nothing worse than those words from in boxing especially. I'm thinking about it come back. I'm like, oh, no, he's out of money. Manny Pacquiao is 45, and he wants his belts back. He's not getting them back. He's going to get his ass kicked. And you. And we're all going to watch him get punched and then wonder what happened to him in fight years. And I can tell you when it happened. Mike Tyson's going to fight Jake Paul. He's 60. He's going to lose the fight. It's not even going to be close. I don't know if you've seen him training. I have. No one's punching back. That bag has no arms. And also the bag is pretty consistently in the same spot. You can. You don't have to go to. It's on a. It's on a rope and it's hanging around. It's kind of easy to hit a pinata without a blindfold. He looked pretty good to me. I wouldn't want to get punched by him. Yeah, nobody does want to get punched at all by anyone. Now go in there with another trained guy who's 30 and watch the wheels fall off the old man, who, by the way, on his walk up to the ring, almost fell down. Stop putting old people in positions that are going to get him killed and acting like we want to see it. We don't. And also, I had to hanker in there just because I like sports. I looked into FIFA and to see, you know, because they have the World cup coming. I just wanted the World Cup. It's an event. Right. So I don't care about the sport. I just want to see what it's like to be inside. Yeah, I've been to WNBA games. I've been to rising games. I don't just hate. I hate with experience. I go and make sure I experience the thing. And then I go, this is why I don't like it. Or it won me over. I had it not been for my attitude like that, Brett, I'd have never gone to sea. One of the most magnificent things I've ever seen, which is the river dance. Sure, I hated it going in, but midway through that fishing session of those Irish dancers jigging around on the. Stop. Jigging around on the. On the. On the stage, I was on the edge of my seat. I was the first one standing at the end this. It was magnificent. And I learned right then and there, you can judge a book by its cover. But sometimes you're wrong. Most time you're not. Sometimes you're wrong. So I want to go to the World cup to see what this whole, you know, it's worldwide insanity. And for perspective, if you try to buy tickets to a Super bowl, face value, most of the time, the upper deck tickets are seven or eight hundred dollars. Sometimes a thousand. Depends on like this year, San Francisco, I think it's going to probably be a thousand bucks. Then down low, the lower bowl has a limit of like five to eight. You go on secondary markets, it gets into the five figures, sometimes six. You start getting into that big money. FIFA is charging $8,000 a ticket, face value for just lower bowl, not sweets, not anything else. Lower bull seats are $8,000. Upper is like, you can get seven, but they're way in the back. And that's. But they're. They're going to be the first one sold. And then the secondary market's going to go crazy. They're saying that there's a chance that lower bowl seats on secondary markets could go for 50 to $75,000 a seat just to get a chair. You're not getting in a suite. You're not getting food. You're not getting anything. You're not getting any special treatment. And that's when I go back to Brett's way. I ain't going to that for any. That's crazy talk. What is it? Soccer. I'm gonna go watch soccer. And they're mad at people and they're like, well, that's just not. What is FIFA doing? And, like, if they sell out, you got to shut up. You just didn't have enough to buy it. Nobody ever stands outside the Lamborghini dealership going, this is out of control. You're charging too much. Like, well, then don't buy it if you can't afford it. It's not their fault. Then I looked, and FIFA's World cup generates ready $80 billion in revenue. 80 billion. 109 countries don't make that much money. Afghanistan's GDP is 11 billion a year. This is eight times bigger than full functioning countries with millions of people in them. Not like little, like, you know, dots. Real countries. $80 billion. And to me, I thought, wow, there's the argument for why they should have never paid the female soccer players the exact same amount of money. Perfect. Examp. Women's World cup does pretty well. I believe Its peak was $6 billion.

[Chris]

A lot of money.

[John Holmberg]

It's a ton of money. 80 billion. And I'm not a mathematician, is more. There's a little more, is a lot more by at least half. I don't know numbers. I'm not Asian. I need an abacus and a guy named Kim. That's. That's the biggest things that go back and say, my God, they're charging eight grand a ticket for a family of four to go pays for one person's annual salary on the field. There are going to be 100,000 people at the finals. Not to mention all the games leading up will be sold out for a third of those prices. $80 billion will be put into the world through just soccer. Man, that is incredible. And ladies are like, we need to be paid the same as the men. No, you don't. You need to be paid. 6 goes into 81. 20. Holy cow. 14 times less than the men. Is that right? Something like that. What? Yeah.

[Sarah]

What we're doing the exact same thing and the manager's getting so much more.

[John Holmberg]

Like, yup.

[Sarah]

It's not bad.

[John Holmberg]

No, it's a matter of economics. 80 and 6. Let me just take the billion off. If I made $80 at the lemonade stand and you made six, why would we split that evenly?

[Narrator/Interjector]

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[John Holmberg]

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[John Holmberg]

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[John Holmberg]

Let me put it in perspective. A lady will finally understand if you made 80 at a lemonade stand and I made six, you wouldn't even consider splitting it. It's not that you want to be equal. You want more. Because if a lady. If suddenly a guy said, we're going to pay the ladies more than the men, they would never go, no, no, no, no. We just want what's equal. They'd be like, all right, we won.

[Chris]

It was never a partnership.

[John Holmberg]

Never. No, no. We never asked for you to be part of it. You begged and begged and begged and begged.

[Sarah]

Like, make a league for us. Make a league.

[John Holmberg]

Make your own league, bitch.

[Sarah]

We can't.

[John Holmberg]

All right, fine. You can glom onto this one, but don't go barking about the cash because we're still pulling it all in.

[Sarah]

We Won't we just want to play? Hey, we won the World cup last time.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, but you played a country that had a soccer team for the last six weeks. It was not like the competition's all caught up.

[Sarah]

You guys made 35,000 a game, and we need four.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, that seems about right.

[Sarah]

We want 35 also.

[John Holmberg]

First off, most of you are lesbians, so you don't have leverage like the other girls.

[Brett Vesley]

Wish in one hand and s in the other.

[John Holmberg]

Zip it on equality. And I have a story about that, too. A dude might go to jail.

[Brett Vesley]

Because.

[John Holmberg]

They were mountain climbing together in Austria, and it was a pretty hefty hike, right? It was one of them Austrian mountains. If you've seen pictures of that, they're almost always freezing. Yeah, you've been there, but you never climbed a mountain. You know better.

[Chris]

Well, I went up.

[John Holmberg]

Well, you went up a hill. Let's not go crazy.

[Chris]

Feet on the mountain, but you can't.

[John Holmberg]

Not climb a bowl, so you're not climbing a mountain. You. You were in high elevation.

[Chris]

You took a tram, John.

[John Holmberg]

All right, good. Well, stop talking, because this has nothing to do with your terrible hill climbing skills. But if a very experienced hiker said, hey, Brady, want to come with me up the mountain? And you said, okay. And he's like, all right, read up on it. Grab some gear. I'll take you up. And then you guys get to 135ft of the peak, and it starts blustering and winding, and he looks back and he goes, freddie.

[Chris]

What?

[Sarah]

I keep going. I'm freezing to death.

[John Holmberg]

You bought a bad coat.

[Sarah]

I know that now. I'll see you later.

[Brett Vesley]

Bye.

[John Holmberg]

A guy finishes the hike, leaves you there, and you freeze up. He didn't die. He almost died. You go back, do you think he's guilty of attempted murder?

[Chris]

Yes.

[John Holmberg]

You do.

[Brett Vesley]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

That's attempted murder.

[Chris]

You signed up for a guide.

[John Holmberg]

No, no, he's not a guide. Oh, just a buddy that'll take you up there.

[Chris]

Well, in the climbing code.

[John Holmberg]

There's no climbing code. First off, you don't know the climbing. First off, stop saying things you don't understand. As crime. You don't have a climbing code. You don't know the climbing code. Go on.

[Chris]

Well, it's based on that movie in Everest.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, here we go.

[Chris]

The people with a. But they were hired. Hired Sherpas, Right?

[John Holmberg]

Their guides left.

[Chris]

A couple people got down there.

[John Holmberg]

They tell you on Everest, hey, if it starts getting sideways, we're not taking you with. That's the climbing code. You're not going to risk my life being dead weight. So there's your climb.

[Chris]

Unless you're. Unless you're the guide.

[John Holmberg]

So the 36 year old man is facing manslaughter charges because he left his girlfriend 130ft behind him. She didn't make it. So now a guy can go to jail for being better at something that's essentially all he was. I know that's not fair. If she did it, you'd be like, well. And then you're like, well, she didn't have the proper equipment. It's like, although we were all about equality. She bought a bad coat. Women are always cold. They're cold in movie theaters, for God's sakes. He could have bought her the best coat available. It wasn't going to be enough.

[Chris]

What's 10 minutes?

[John Holmberg]

Prosecutors allege I got 135ft. Look that. But you think that's manslaughter? You think you can get a. No, of course you don't. That's part of the climbing code that Brady's so well versed in.

[Chris]

There is a code?

[John Holmberg]

Come on. From a movie you watched. And the code we just discussed was the opposite of the point you're trying to make, which is you're dead weight. We leave you here. That's the code.

[Chris]

No, it's not.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, what is the code then? Why are there so many?

[Chris]

You do not leave them.

[John Holmberg]

Yes, you do.

[Chris]

They have hunker down with them.

[John Holmberg]

14 bodies on Everest, you don't stay day. You leave them there. They don't even go to recover your dead body. That's part of the code. Mr. Green Jeans is something I know about because people hike past him to this day. We're not taking that back. No dead weight. It's too hard. So the code is not. Now you're in trouble. Then I'm gonna die too. Every man.

[Chris]

Captain of the ship.

[John Holmberg]

Every man. From what AI says, we're talking about Everest. Because that's what Brady brought up. If you're hiking camelback. Yeah. You don't leave people behind. Yeah, but we're hiking Everest. They tell you right off the bat, hey, if things start going sideways, you're staying. We'll try to get you back, but if it's too hard, you're gonna die and you're gonna. Your body's gonna live here forever. There's tons of bodies on Everest because they don't have the code of like, I'll stay with you until we both go. And that's all this dude did.

[Sarah]

I can't go on. I don't want tearing on coat. It's too cold.

[John Holmberg]

All right. I'll be right back. 135ft from here is the peak. The whole purpose of this climb.

[Brett Vesley]

There isn't one single code for Everest climbers, but rather established ethics.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, unspoken rules. Official regulations. Which are, you start dragging ass, you become an icicle. Unspoken rules. Because if they were rules that were to help you, they'd be more than happy to print those out. But unspoken rules. Basically they're like, we're gonna leave you for dead.

[Brett Vesley]

Sci Fi Club.

[John Holmberg]

It's Fight Club. That's right. But now this dude's gonna go to court for manslaughter because he was a better hiker than his girlfriend. He's 36. They say he's an experienced mountaineer. Abandoned his 33 year old partner for over six hours and deadly cold while he sought help. He was actually hiking some more after he got the top. Came back as. I'm gonna go grab some help. You stay put.

[Sarah]

I can't move.

[John Holmberg]

He's supposed to stay. No.

[Chris]

Yeah, it's not like he can put our over his back.

[John Holmberg]

And by the way, don't start in with the adverbs. Deadly cold either. Because she knew when she looked at that big white mountain, it's probably kind of chilly up there. She knew what she was getting into. I want to be this guy's lawyer. First thing I'd say is, look, the earth's better off. This bitch is an icicle. Night rack. She was just causing nothing but trouble. You agree to go hiking up Austrian Mountain. You don't, I need your help. Is not an option.

[Chris]

He didn't say you bad, you bought a bad jacket, did he?

[John Holmberg]

Well, he. No. Well, no, but they were saying she had her equipment. Wasn't good enough.

[Chris]

That's your fault.

[John Holmberg]

That's her fault. It is. Because he didn't know that she was going to complain the whole time.

[Sarah]

I don't have enough experience.

[John Holmberg]

Do you want to go up the mountain or not?

[Sarah]

Yes.

[John Holmberg]

All right. Well then you said yes. It's not his fault.

[Sarah]

Is it going to be hard?

[John Holmberg]

Can you see it, dumbass? It's. Look at. It's the big one. The big white one in the middle. That's what we're going to climb. Are you cool with that?

[Sarah]

If you can do it, I can do it.

[John Holmberg]

I don't know. We'll see. We'll see.

[Chris]

Experienced climber wouldn't have taken her up there.

[John Holmberg]

Should know he wasn't that experienced. But he made it. We're not talking about Everest. It's a big mountain. He's being accused of ignoring his partner's inexperience and failing to call call emergency services before nightfall when a police helicopter that he went and got went over. Officials eventually reached him at 12:35am he faces three years in prison. Manslaughter by gross negligence. They can get us to go to jail now just for being better than them.

[Chris]

I'm trying to offer.

[John Holmberg]

I'm a better hiker than you. If you're climbing Camelback.

[Sarah]

I never climbed this before.

[John Holmberg]

I've climbed a few times. Just follow me. And she falls and bonks her head. Just because you didn't, you can go to jail for it now.

[Chris]

You dodged a bullet taking Josh Blue.

[John Holmberg]

Up there, but you. Yeah, I. No, I didn't. He agreed to it. It's like all of Diddy's party go experience. John, all those women that dated Diddy for 10 years and said this was just tragic. Like it was a decade of you going back to the party. I have trouble feeling sorry for you at a certain point, Josh Blue saying, I want to hike Camelback Mountain. Okay. You're a grown up.

[Chris]

And it worked out barely.

[John Holmberg]

You should have seen him. I almost left him. Like, I can't be part of this. But that wouldn't have been my fault. If you and Ronnie go hiking and you fall and hit your head, they're not even going to consider manslaughter charges for her. They know it's murder because you're a man. Well, she probably. If you fell off the mountain, we'd know for sure it was murder. In fact, if she said, let's go hiking, it's murder.

[Chris]

It was murder.

[John Holmberg]

Her mere suggest, parking at Echo Canyon and looking at the mountain with you going, we're gonna climb this, right? That's where the murder begins.

[Sarah]

I can do it.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, boy. She's. She's gonna kill him. And it's gonna be.

[Chris]

It's been a few years. No problem.

[John Holmberg]

Not a soul. If a woman, experienced woman hiker goes up a hill and a dude dies, nobody's ever gonna know she killed him. He just wasn't as good as her. We accept it. It's 80 million versus 6 million. Knock off the equality talk. Quit it. If you're gonna put us in jail for being better at stuff than you, knock off the equality talk and just say we're not as good. Until then we can have our way. 80 versus 6. She would never get charged if that dude died and she Made it. She's like, I left him behind. I was looking for help. She'd be a hero. He left her. He was supposed to die with her. What the kind of Romeo and Juliet nonsense is this? Fairy tale, Fairy tale. No man's doing it.

[Chris]

The issue is he went and had to summit 135ft.

[John Holmberg]

That's not when she was dying. Just because she quit, that means he's better than her. The whole point of the climb was to get to the top of the mountain. You're 130ft away from here to KDKB if you're dying right now. And our only goal was to go down.

[Chris]

Sandbag is not going to make it.

[John Holmberg]

You just. That's sandbagging.

[Chris]

You got to go get help.

[John Holmberg]

No, you don't. She made the climb, too. I wouldn't do that. Be like, I'm going to go to the top, I'll touch the tip and then I'm coming back. You know what I mean by that? I'm gonna jerk off on top of this mountain. That's what I mean. And I'll be back. And he was back. And she was still alive because. All right, I'm gonna go get help. And he did. It was too late.

[Sarah]

You went on.

[John Holmberg]

Why didn't you just lay on top.

[Sarah]

Of her and die with her?

[John Holmberg]

Because I'm not an effing moron, that's why. Why would I do that?

[Narrator/Interjector]

All birds. Morning sickness.

[Female Advertiser]

Disgusting. They say things that are horrible.

[Narrator/Interjector]

Bloomberg's morning sickness.

[John Holmberg]

You know who didn't leave the plane when that soccer team crashed? Ever watched that story? The dudes that hiked for a month to go help the rest of them. Three guys. Not one woman said, I'll do it. Not one.

[Chris]

They were eating.

[John Holmberg]

They were probably eating. Well, they were eating, but they were still alive. All those ladies were getting eaten on that hill for sure. Pack snow in there. Make them sometimes. It had strawberry flavor. All right, we feel the sustenance. We're gonna go hike down there and find somebody. And then a man in a helicopter came up. At heights, helicopters don't fly because there's no air. Barely picked up all the ladies first. This whole thing has been bull from the beginning. A man ran a boat into an iceberg after a bunch of men built this giant awesome boat. Who got off first? The women. Both you guys know you're not. You ever go golfing? Brady goes golfing. One of those red dots up there. 100 yards away from these where we hit. Oh, that's the ladies teeth Never once have I heard a woman go, I'm not using those. You know, you're taking advantage of us. And it's high time us men said, you say you're gonna climb the mountain, you climb it. Because if it was Brady and I, you'd tell me, like, I'm so cold, but we're so close.

[Chris]

Go on ahead.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. And no one would ever accuse me of killing you. What they do is look at a picture of us at base camp, my arm around you and smiles and thumbs up, going, why'd that dude take that fat guy up there? He's gonna kill him. What was he thinking? Since when the bald shoes climb like that? Yeah, they judge us by the look. Yeah. That's not real, but if you want. Brady's written a book about climbing codes.

[Chris]

No, no.

[John Holmberg]

He knows them up and down my hand. Because when you used to be a huge mountaineer, I mean, I remember that years ago. You're like, he's dressed up like Daniel Boone. I'm a mountaineer now. And you just start climbing stuff as Brady was. We called him Parkour for about four years because he just couldn't stop climbing things. He's a climber.

[Chris]

On belay.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You. You know a few of the words. Yeah. Good. Yeah. Yeah. You know what else? I'm a bullfighter because I can say, olay.

[Chris]

There's a code.

[John Holmberg]

El toro, ole. Look at me. I basically know the whole sport. A code for climbing. He shoots out of his butt.

[Chris]

You know the code.

[John Holmberg]

You don't know the code. Neither do you. I am. You're right. I don't know the code. But I do know this. If you say yes to climbing a Swiss Alp, you're in on it. You're complete. You're not my responsibility. If you freeze to death in the freezer and you got in it, your fault.

[Chris]

I think he should go to jail to begin with, taking his girlfriend.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, well, there's. There is that. There is. That's like taking a woman golfing. We saw that last week in that Trajan tournament when the guy tried to get laid. Took a girl. She's never golfed before. I'm like, this is a nightmare for the other players. This is just a disaster.

[Chris]

Hazardous.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Dangerous.

[John Holmberg]

If you want to climb the Alps, I mean, there is that argument. If you want to go devil's advocate and you want to climb the Alps and you take your girlfriend, it is probably to kill her.

[Sarah]

I've not climbed a lot.

[John Holmberg]

Well, this is a good place to start. The Alps.

[Chris]

So you told her that shorts and a T shirt will be fun?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, she'll be good. We're not even gonna get that. Plus, the sun's up, right? Yeah.

[Sarah]

We're gonna get closer to it the more we climb.

[John Holmberg]

That's right. We'll get closer to the sun the higher we get. It's gonna get warmer up there. That's why there's so much snow.

[Sarah]

Weird.

[John Holmberg]

I know. Follow me.

[Chris]

Then the straps on my sandal broke.

[Brett Vesley]

I was gonna start you out at Echo Canyon, but.

[John Holmberg]

There'S. Plus there's tons of people. We'll be alone. Maybe we'll do it in the snow.

[Sarah]

You're so randy.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, I know it. Anyway, it's gonna take three days.

[Chris]

What?

[John Holmberg]

Just put your Columbia on. Let's go. You got your cocoa?

[Sarah]

I have a whole thermos of it.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, your Stanley is pink and adorable. You put stickers on there. That's cute.

[Sarah]

You think it'll last the whole time?

[John Holmberg]

Oh, sure. Stanley's a real reliable. Stay warm.

[Chris]

Go.

[John Holmberg]

Let's go.

[Sarah]

I have to pee.

[John Holmberg]

I bet you do. How many times did she say that?

[Sarah]

I have to pee again.

[Brett Vesley]

This mother.

[John Holmberg]

Zip, peel, zip. Take the little straps off your shoulder. Get that whole suit off. She pees, you're. Dress her back up. Thanks.

[Sarah]

It gets real cold.

[John Holmberg]

Next time, just piss your pants. Please, no.

[Sarah]

Let me turn into slushy. How much longer?

[John Holmberg]

I told you, three days. We're 100ft away.

[Sarah]

So cold.

[Brett Vesley]

Keep it up. It's not going to be that long.

[John Holmberg]

Don't worry about it. You're going to start. You're going to start feeling a lot less the longer you're out here. Yeah, I'm just mad because the dude's up for manslaughter charges. Some. Where's her agency in this? Where's her personal responsibility? He should have gotten you a better coat. Really? The gift giving is the issue? She got a job when she buy her own coat? Should she ask somebody at rei? Hey, I'm going to climb the Alps. Is this good enough? And the guy's like, no, neither are you. What are you doing?

[Sarah]

I love him.

[John Holmberg]

The woman was reportedly left unprotected, exhausted and hypothermic. Was wearing gear considered unsuitable for high altitude climbing. What was he wearing? Was he wearing similar stuff?

[Chris]

Correct clothes?

[John Holmberg]

No, maybe not. Maybe it was. But it's a perfect murder break.

[Chris]

Yeah. So, yeah, it sounds like. Or may sound like he was an.

[John Holmberg]

Experienced client right now. If he had her at gunpoint, he's like, you're Going to climb the goddamn else with me. And you're going to do it in this windbreaker. That's different. But she agreed to it.

[Chris]

That doesn't sound like. If you're experienced, you'd know.

[John Holmberg]

Please. She bought a coat. She had what he thought was fine. Now, now, in hindsight, her lawyers are saying not enough. You should have bought her a ring, too. What was this, getting the milk for free? They're getting him on gift giving. You climb the Alps, it's every man for himself.

[Brett Vesley]

Agree.

[John Holmberg]

There's two skydivers that are in the news, too. And one jumped out of the plane and his emergency chute accidentally went off. The second, he jumped out and he floated right back to the tail wing and it caught and he hung there.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

You know what the other skydivers did? Got out.

[Chris]

Oh, yeah.

[John Holmberg]

They went on with their day. They had to tell the pilot later. Somebody inside goes. There's a. The pilot's like. It's like, what's wrong with the plane? He didn't know. Somebody goes on, one of the parachute is stuck to the back of the plane. Oh, that makes sense. And then he adjusted for it, and.

[Chris]

Then at least he was able to release.

[John Holmberg]

Well, yeah, he cut 11 chords and then did his real shoot because his emergency one's the one that caused the problem. He cut him off. He figured it out. He didn't sue anybody for having a faulty pack.

[Chris]

There's not much help you could do when he's on the tail.

[John Holmberg]

Sure there is. Those guys are like, sure there is. You find a couple plungers, get out of here, jump. Much like your argument.

[Chris]

No, he's still on the tail.

[John Holmberg]

Much like your argument of I saw in a movie once. You go get a couple plungers and you walk along the side of the plane and you go on, and then you walk back in. I saw Tom Cruise do it. A Mission Impossible, same as Usain. Everest is a movie of fact. This guy just sent me a thing, said holmberg. You're right. Mount Everest is a graveyard. 300 bodies of fallen climbers will remain on its slope, exposed as glaciers melt due to climate change, becoming grim landmarks like you said. Green, Mr. Green Boots, sleeping beauty. Climbers navigate, prompting costly recovery missions. They won't go get them because it costs too much and you knew what you were doing. There's that whole situation there. You can't go to jail for saying, brett, let's go climb camelback. Unless I push you. If you just fall. It's not my. What'd you take Brett up There for. He doesn't know what he's doing. Well, I thought he was a grown up. I thought he knew. He knew what he was capable of. Why am I aware of that on that.

[Chris]

That the, that documentary of that climb. It was tragic. The Everest climb. It was probably came out, I don't know, 10 years ago.

[John Holmberg]

But the guy, the guide, the avalanche one that killed all those people.

[Chris]

No, this is the one where he made. Made the decision, okay, we're gonna summit.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Chris]

But then a storm came.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, the, oh, the movie they made about that. Yeah, yeah.

[Chris]

And that guy that he had to go to trial to the.

[John Holmberg]

The guy for making bad decisions.

[Chris]

Yeah. I'm not sure.

[John Holmberg]

But he's a guide. You paid him to make sure everything was going to go right. Because you don't know the. You and your wife proper to do.

[Chris]

The proper procedures as the guide. It was, look, you were like a little, you know, you felt for the guy. Like, I can't blame the guy.

[John Holmberg]

I didn't do anything. Except for said you guys want to make a bad call. But if everybody's like thumbs up if you say so. But if you're paying a guy and he's like, no, it's not a good idea, you're relying on his knowledge. If it's just the two of you knobs climbing camelback and somebody falls, it's nobody's fault. Drives me nuts. Drives me nuts. Now everybody's like, what mountain was that? My wife and I aren't getting along right now. It's not a bad idea. Silly. Yeah. I go back to the argument if you climb in the walk in under your own volition and it's freezing in there and you die inside of there a freezing. You can't blame the waiter that took you in there to get the bj. It's not his fault.

[Sarah]

I'll go in there and blow you.

[John Holmberg]

How many times of Tony Romas that. That walk in freezer was used for blow jobs. And we used to lock people in it as jokes when we'd see them go in and put a broom in the handle so they couldn't pump out brilliantly funny. And they'd come out freezing.

[Chris]

You such dicks.

[John Holmberg]

Don't go in there and blow each other during the like we're all suffering because the place is packed and you two can't get enough. You can't keep your hands off each other. We're gonna lock in there. But if she drops dead of hypothermia while she's blowing you, it's not the dude getting blown's fault. She said yes. Getting more and more of those Japanese robots are making a lot more sense. Yeah, she's not gonna get you for manslaughter if you leave her on the side of a mountain. In fact, you can just chuck her out of the car, get a new one. You're a misogynist when you're an idiot. You shouldn't climb the mountain.

[Sarah]

He should have bought me a better coat.

[John Holmberg]

You got a job? Well, yeah, but I mean, come on. No. Buy your own coat. Ask a couple questions. Is this coat good enough? That's an easy one. That's the first one I'd have asked. Is this good enough for climbing the Alps? And if you're going to rei, it's not good enough. You got to go to like, sherpavillage.com or something.

[Narrator/Interjector]

Sickness.

[Female Advertiser]

Disgusting. They say things that are horrible.

[Narrator/Interjector]

Holmberg's morning sickness.

[John Holmberg]

You have to have someone with an accent tell you, I wouldn't do that. That's what you're looking for. One of those Sing Songy guys. Also, I found out that if they ever have ice cream giveaways on a Royal Caribbean cruise, that means they're using the freezer for a body. You want to talk about code?

[Chris]

They're making space.

[John Holmberg]

They got a little morgue on all cruise ships. And because they're talking about that guy that died a few days ago, and they're saying, maybe not. He was drunk off 33 drinks. And then he's a big boy, too. He was huge. And they pinned him and they're saying he was asphyxiated from the drinking plus the pinning. So they were like, really bad. This, that, and the other. So they. Their family's like. And then you stuffed them in a freezer. And they're like, when the morgue was full, the morgue has like two or three boxes per cruise.

[Brett Vesley]

How many people died on this cruise?

[John Holmberg]

People say, like that. So that's what I found out. It's like, they have that morgue. Well, they're all 90. Like there's a whole section of nine year olds. They have people dropping dead on cruises like crazy.

[Brett Vesley]

Was a Carnival cruise, right?

[John Holmberg]

No, Royal Caribbean Carnival doesn't know. They just overboard. Yeah, they just have boys to men. That's how you know there's a death on a Carnival cruise. You hear boys to men over the speakers and everybody just kind of bows their head, pours some 40 out, and then gets back to dancing. But no, in Royal Caribbean, they have morgue. All of them have little morgues and then old people die and then they get the family off the boat and everybody just kind of disappears and they'll fill it. But if the lady said, there's one thing you need to know, she used to work on cruise ships. If we ever do a free ice cream giveaway, we're using the freezer for a body.

[Brett Vesley]

Oh.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, my God. It's weird because there's 4, 000 people that only know three or four people per. Like, every group only knows, like, either two or six or seven. Like, you had your whole family on there, right?

[Chris]

14.

[John Holmberg]

There were 14 here. That's huge. That's not normal that. Most old people go on cruises to get away from there. That's two at a time, right? One of them dies to take the other one on a helicopter, they get her out of Dodge at the next stop, stuff the body in the morgue, they have that. But if they're ever like, hey, Alaska, you want some ice cream? No, no, no. It's freezing out here. We got a bunch of ice cream for free. Well, it's free. I'm gonna eat that.

[Brett Vesley]

Or did they just forget to clear. Clear out the morgue at the last stop?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, they're kind of like, hey, Mr. Johnson's still in the hole.

[Brett Vesley]

Kind of like when you get off the plane, the guy's out there vacuuming and reloading the chips and everything else and.

[John Holmberg]

Right.

[Brett Vesley]

Forgot to mark the.

[John Holmberg]

Ah, yeah. Ain't nobody died in that last one, man. How do I say goodbye? We at Carnival would like to say goodbye to Mr. Blaze.

[Brett Vesley]

Tip that, Hennessy.

[John Holmberg]

That's how you know Carnival Cruiser, we're going to pull over for a second, say goodbye to Rallo. What happened? It's not important what happened, but here you go. It would be rough. It would be amazing to be on that cruise line. There it is. Hey, y'. All, we all saw it by the pool yesterday. What was that man thinking? Getting in that pool is dangerous. We got signs up everywhere. It's just for show. Let's not get in there without your floaties. Now, this is my homie Rallo. Carnival would like to say goodbye the only way we know how, y'. All. By the way, the rock wall is open during the morning period climb for rallo begins at 5:00'. Clock. We're gonna raise some money, enjoy the Pink the video.

[Brett Vesley]

They're even pouring.

[John Holmberg]

When I look, they're pulling it out for Rallo. Didn't make it on that water slide. God knows what he was thinking. Daredevil Ralo, Tennessee.

[Brett Vesley]

On the house for the next five minutes.

[John Holmberg]

Next five minutes is the Rallo special going out. Connor would like to give you one free from the same bottle. But we're not going to give you all cups. That's a lot of washing. That's true. Anyway, so if you want to take your wife hiking, just know you're risking your freedom.

[Chris]

Just visit one of the Tims at the bar. Everyone named Tim.

[John Holmberg]

That was John. All of them were Chris on mine. They're all from the Philippines.

[Sarah]

Oh, we got a Philippine man.

[John Holmberg]

Chris. Chris. Yeah, Chris. Chris Fernandez. Chris Fernandez. Oh, we got conquered by the Spanish. They took over everything. Bring us Catholicism. Oh, he had crosses all over his body. I love Jesus. I'm like, okay, you want to do shot? Like, Yes, I do. Chris. Chris wasn't your real name.

[Tim]

Oh, no.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, Chris Fernandez. You got raped into that. There's no way you're. You guys were Fernandez's the whole time. No, no. See, Spanish conquistador come over, take over the whole place. Give us Jesus. I'm not kidding. If I. If that was. If that wasn't a real conversation, it was pretty damn close to what he was saying. Oh, give us Jesus. The best thing ever happened to our country. Jesus. Yeah. And then all the Spanish, Latin, we're on him. Fernandez. Now what they are, every one of them was named Fernandez. Chris Fernandez.

[Brett Vesley]

What type of cleaning is needed on a freezer with a body in it?

[John Holmberg]

Not that Brett would know or anything. Yeah, I don't know. Freezers are good, Joe.

[Brett Vesley]

I don't know.

[John Holmberg]

You just. You heat, you defrost, you bleach, and you freeze again. Kind of does the work for itself.

[Brett Vesley]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Well, I'm only saying that because I know when the, like when the freezer melted and we had all that beef broth and chicken juice leaked down onto the floor. We had to like hazmat that thing. And then we got the freezer fixed and everything froze again. We had to redo, restock. That was actually an insurance claim because we lost a lot of dough that day when all that meat went, you know, had to technically go bad because you can't risk the chicken water unfreezing. Yeah, we didn't know it was an overnight thing in it summer. And we came in the next day and it stunk. Opened it up and there's water all over the floor. And it was kind of warm. And they're like, oh, no. All the meat had to go. All of it. It was terrible. There was one girl in the back. I was Blowing air in the chef. And he left me in here. I'm gonna sue him for. Oh, come on. You went in on your own.

[Sarah]

Of course I did.

[John Holmberg]

I wanted to blow him, but I.

[Sarah]

Didn'T know he was gonna leave. When he was done, I thought we were gonna hold each other and stay.

[John Holmberg]

Stay warm. Well, you were wrong. That's your fault.

[Sarah]

He's gonna go to jail.

[John Holmberg]

Sure. I'll climb the mountain. Immediately dismisses all murder charges.

[Narrator/Interjector]

Period.

[John Holmberg]

End of story. 80 million. 6 million. Stop getting mad at us for being better at stuff. Brett, what do you got on the big board of Musical Tree? All right.

[Brett Vesley]

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[John Holmberg]

And you can go to that one and get a nice warm coat for Flagstaff for you. And that.

[Brett Vesley]

Yes, Josh will make sure that you have the proper gear for your. For your up north visit.

[John Holmberg]

So.

[Brett Vesley]

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[John Holmberg]

All right. What do you got on the list?

[Brett Vesley]

We got Black Sabbath, Snow Blind for the Cane Talk earlier, Papa Roach, Even A Kills Me. Metallica. Grandmaster Flash making an appearance. Buck Cherry, Jane's Addiction, Mountain Song for this broad, Slayer, south of Heaven, Primus, John the Fisherman, gnr, Dope. Die Mother, Effer for the broad that was hiking Ramstein and sabotage.

[John Holmberg]

That's necessary. Necessary, but hilarious.

[Brett Vesley]

Maybe he requested it.

[John Holmberg]

I don't know. It's a Guy Said John, the movie Brady's talking about. No one died from the cold. They died from a lack of oxygen. Had nothing to do with their coats. You got to take oxygen tanks with you. There's no air up there. I'm obsessed with that kind of trash.

[Chris]

They leave all those tanks?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Well, because.

[Chris]

Can't pick them up.

[John Holmberg]

Dead weight stays on the mountain. That's the code. The real code, the unspoken code. What's that code again? It's radio time. A code red, subsection B, line 130, colon, 2 Thou shalt not. No, you're just making stuff up.

[Chris]

Here's a code you follow.

[John Holmberg]

You're goddamn right. We live in a world. Brady knows hiking codes and all sorts of incredibly exhausting physical activity codes that he does on the rig. He's the Commissioner of Climbing. Who's Gonna do the codes. You, you, Lieutenant Weinberg, stand in there. I can't say the word homo. F word. Uniform. Extend me a little code courtesy. Whatever you want to do today. White lines is so good, we might have to do it. Okay, let's pump it out there. For those. For all your kids are gonna be that delicious fruity cocaine everybody's talking about, starting with the Attorney General. Right on down to every news channel. Fruity cocaine and news. Stop it. Andre, text me. And he said he had the news on in his house yesterday and the kids are running around. And he had it up kind of loud so he could hear it in the other room. And they're like disturbing new images of some underage teenage girls showing way too much skin on TikTok. And he said, well, damn it. And he put everything down to go watch. And I'm cooking. You can't go throwing that out there. Way too much skin on these incredibly hot underage women. If you look, you're a weirdo. Well, you made me stop doing that news. Delicious fruity cocaine is available now for your kids. That's bad. We didn't know about that till you said so.

[Brett Vesley]

Did somebody say fruity?

[John Holmberg]

Ooh, fruity cocaine makes you fruity or just for us? Anyway, I think this is the way to do it. Keep your kids off the fruity cocaine. Who sang this? Grandmaster Furious 5.

[Brett Vesley]

That's right.

[John Holmberg]

Sing it if Krista Greenway, if you're listening. How you doing? Get higher, baby. It's 98. It's not weird. It's pretty cool, actually. No membership fee. I've heard enough of this.

[Tim]

I'm here on a job site with Tim, who owns his own electrical contracting business.

[John Holmberg]

Three employees and two work trucks.

[Tim]

Tim traded up to Geico Commercial Auto Insurance. We're positively here where he needs us most.

[John Holmberg]

They sure are.

[Tim]

With Step by step help on all the his insurance needs. All for shockingly low rates.

[John Holmberg]

Shockingly low.

[Tim]

Just a little bit of electrician humor. Do you get it?

[John Holmberg]

I got it.

[Tim]

You know, it feels like we have a real connection.

[John Holmberg]

All right, I'll stop. Get a commercial auto insurance quote [e-mail] and see how much you could save. It feels good to Geico.