12-15-25 - Rob Reiner And Wife Murdered In Their Home - Resetting Friday's After Dark Show At SUL - Addressing The Station Laying Off Fitz And Others On Friday And Our Memorable Firings

Summary

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Episode Overview

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This episode of Holmberg’s Morning Sickness delves into an especially turbulent weekend for the show, local radio, and pop culture news. The crew—John Holmberg, Brady Bogen, Brett Vesely, and Dick Toledo—react to the shocking headline of Rob Reiner and his wife’s murder, share candid stories from their "After Dark" live show, and address the fallout from significant staff layoffs at 98KUPD, including the departure of beloved team member Fitz. The conversation weaves between dark humor, raw industry insights, and bittersweet memories, capturing both the unpredictability of life and the cutthroat world of radio.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Rob Reiner & Wife’s Tragic Murder (01:23–06:22)

• The show opens, stunned by the breaking news that legendary director and actor Rob Reiner and his wife were found murdered in their home.
• John Holmberg: “Everything’s abuzz about this Rob Reiner thing. It’s crazy. It’s weirdest. It’s a weird one...You just, my God, if you had just Rob Reiner movies in your collection, you’d have a hell of a collection of movies.” (01:25)
• The hosts note the sudden, violent nature of the crime—throat slashing, possibly by their own son Nick (age 32)—and react to how surreal it feels, even in the world of celebrity.
• They recall Reiner’s prolific filmography (When Harry Met Sally, Misery, Spinal Tap, A Few Good Men) and his part as “Meathead” from All in the Family, expressing both admiration and shock.
• Memorable Moment: “So I guess when you say, ‘Want to see a dead body?’ he had no idea that was going to be Stand by Me come true.” — John Holmberg, with his signature mix of dark humor and pop culture. (04:31)

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2. Celebrity Deaths & Cultural Impact (06:22–06:30)

• Brief mention of other recent celebrity deaths (Peter Green, the actor from Pulp Fiction), reflecting on how rare and jarring such violent events are.
• Nostalgic appreciation for Reiner’s touch on so many classic films, with the crew lingering on how certain losses feel personal.

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3. Recap: Friday’s After Dark/Happy Endings Show

(Transition begins at 06:30; story continues until about 13:09)

• John Holmberg praises the successful live event at Stand Up Live, featuring acts like Caliendo, John Lovitz, and Kato Kaelin.
• He describes the tremendous relief and “weight lifted” after organizing the “Happy Endings” show, marking the end of a stressful year.
  • “The show happens and it’s over and I realize I don’t have much to do for the rest of the year...It feels amazing.” (07:02)
• Story: After a late night, Holmberg describes a near-death car incident involving his friend Jordan and a runaway truck.
  • Quote: “It was choreographed. It was incredible. I don’t know how you make a car go 70 or 80 miles an hour with no front tire.” (10:17)
• Saturday lunch with John Lovitz and Kato Kaelin leads to a comedic mishap—Lovitz’s dog Jerry vomits on Kato’s pants just before his flight.
  • Quote: “Lovitz didn’t do a thing about it. Didn’t offer him a napkin or anything. I’m giving him like, here, Kato, clean up.” (14:15)
• The hosts laugh about Cato’s misfortune and the impressions it must have left on his Uber driver.

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4. Station Layoffs and the Fitz Fallout (15:00–33:35)

a. Acknowledging Listener Reactions

• Holmberg addresses the spike of emails from fans confused and upset about Fitz’s absence after 20 years.
• The firings (including another staffer, Paul Sura) are explained as “money reasons,” echoing a corporate-wide push for cost savings—an impersonal gutting that’s common in radio.
  • John Holmberg: “It had nothing to do with... Was it performance-based? I don't know... It’s their bat and their ball, they get to do whatever they want.” (15:25)

b. Insider Perspective: Radio’s Firing Rituals

• The group discusses “walk of death” firings—HR showing up unexpectedly, locks removed from studios so hosts can’t do on-air rants, and the trauma such events inflict on a workplace.
  • “If the big wig at your building comes in to your office and he’s never been there and he drags in the HR later, you’re fired. You don’t even have to say it anymore.” (19:07)
• Anecdotes shared about seeing co-workers escorted out, with staff constantly on edge in such times.
• The crew jokes about the impermanence of radio jobs; being “gypsies” is the norm, but at KUPD, most have had rare longevity.
  • “Fitz was here for 20 years. He was the new guy.” (19:54)
  • “The station's an anomaly as far as that goes. Nobody leaves and we're not used to it.” — Brett Vesely (20:21)
• The ironic career path in radio: getting fired typically leads to a better job, “a business where everybody ascends through failure.”
  • “If you get fired, you get a better job. It's the craziest thing.” (22:54)

c. On-Air Goodbyes & Fitz’s Exit

• Trip, their manager, actually offered Fitz a chance to say goodbye on-air—rare in the industry.
  • Revelation: “Trip just said we offered Fitz the opportunity to go on the air, and he declined...That’s strange for me.” (25:13)
• The hosts reflect on the risk of letting departing staff have live mics (“We took the locks off the doors for a reason”), but are clear that Fitz would’ve been trustworthy.

d. Heartfelt Farewell and Acceptance

• Holmberg expresses sadness over losing Fitz (“Do I love Fitz? Do I miss them? Yes, absolutely. But it is part of this cruddy business...” (25:59)) and attempts to normalize the change after two decades.
• The reality: “Anyone who says this place will fall apart without them is wrong.... Everyone can be replaced, so we'll miss him though.” (46:11)
• The entire team extends best wishes, and encourages listeners to show support to Fitz personally.

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5. Legendary Radio Firings & Lurid Tales (33:23–45:36)

• The crew exchange wild stories of radio colleagues’ departures:
  • A host who forgot his golf clubs and blamed everyone else.
  • The “scope drinker”—a DJ who drank mouthwash on the job, leading to loopy on-air behavior.
  • A production guy with a temper who threw a chair, leading to full-scale evacuations, and later walked the parking lot threatening coworkers after being terminated.
  • The infamous car in the staff parking lot (Henry’s) that was abandoned, then slowly destroyed by coworkers as a stress relief ritual, before the owner eventually came back years later, only to find it unrecognizable.
• These stories serve as both comic relief and commentary on the high-drama, low-security world of radio broadcasting.
  • Quote: “If you had a bad day, you just went out on the frustration car and beat up Henry’s car.” (43:10)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Sometimes those things just punch you right in the nuts and you’re like, what the hell was that?” — John Holmberg on shocking news (06:06)
• “Radio is an ugly bitch, and it’s usually run by people who don’t know what they’re doing.” (21:54)
• “If you get fired, you get a better job. It’s the craziest thing...I’ve seen people who can barely tie their shoes but they look nice in the suit...and the next thing you know...he was a terrible manager...Oh, he’s the Vice President of blah blah blah.” — John Holmberg (22:54)
• “It’s not personal. It’s business. Because, damn it all, when somebody tells you we don’t want you to work here anymore, it feels pretty personal.” (32:22)
• “Anyone who says this place will fall apart without them is wrong....Everyone can be replaced, so we’ll miss him though.” (46:11)

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Important Timestamps

• 01:23 — Opening reactions to Rob Reiner’s murder
• 04:31 — Stand By Me dark joke (“Want to see a dead body?”)
• 06:30 — Recap of Stand Up Live show, event wrap-up
• 09:00–10:17 — Near-miss car accident after the show
• 13:09–15:02 — Lovitz, Cato Kaelin, and the “dog vomit on the pants” story
• 15:00–19:54 — Addressing Fitz and Paul’s layoffs; industry realities
• 19:54–22:54 — The radio “walk of death,” HR firings, insider perspectives
• 25:13 — Trip’s revelation about Fitz’s chance for an on-air farewell
• 33:23–46:19 — Wildest radio firing stories, catharsis, and absurdities

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Tone & Style

• Conversational, irreverent, and unsparing with dark humor.
• Honest behind-the-scenes takes on the radio business.
• Blending empathy for lost colleagues with a “that’s radio” cynicism.
• Balancing storytelling, banter, and audience outreach.

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For New Listeners

This episode is a perfect primer on the ethos of Holmberg’s Morning Sickness: candid, sometimes chaotic, and unafraid to discuss both the dark and absurd sides of the real world and the entertainment industry. If you want to understand the unpredictable life in local radio, the deep bonds of long-serving teams, or simply enjoy untold stories from behind the broadcast, this episode delivers with heart and humor.

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Closing Thought

The episode encapsulates both the instability and the surprising camaraderie of radio—a world where shocking headlines and firings mingle with camaraderie, laughter, and a little bit of dog puke.

Transcript

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[Byron]

Hello there.

[John Holmberg]

Welcome to Monday 10 Days to the Fat Man. It's 5:45 this the Morning Sickness. My name's John, There's Brady, there's Brett, there's Big Dick Toledo. And everything's abuzz about this Rob Reiner thing. It's crazy. It's weirdest. It's a weird one. We haven't had a weird one for a while. This is a weird one. And they think, if you haven't heard yet, Rob Reiner, the director of A Few Good Men, Misery, Princess Bride. I mean, the list goes on and on. Stand By Me. This is Spinal Tap, the new one. This Spinal Tap to the End continues, which was supposed to be just horrible, but let's not talk about that. But I mean, you go down this list of movies. He started When Harry Met Sally. I mean, it's one after another. You're like, my God, this is a. If you had just Rob Reiner movies in your collection, you'd have a hell of a collection of movies.

[Brett Vesely]

Let's not forget Meathead from All in.

[John Holmberg]

The Family, Michael Stivic, and yeah, all in the Family. And that's where he Got going his dad, of course, Carl Reiner. They found him dead with his wife in his house yesterday afternoon and stabbed to death. Or cut there. I didn't hear if it was stabbing or cutting. They said consistent with knives and they're speculating that it's his son. Okay. Which is so weird. Like just.

[Byron]

Which is weird. When it first came out, they said found two bodies.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. In his house. They didn't say who. And you're like, oh, people got killed in his house. Like it was being rented.

[Byron]

I hope he was out of town.

[John Holmberg]

Right. Yeah, it's. It's really strange and there's no like super details or anything else, but it's just a. And I mean he's a guy who's gone mostly political. Says now the new thing says the throat slit by family member. That's the latest headline.

[Byron]

32 year old son Nick.

[John Holmberg]

But they did. They cut his. They cut their throats. Yeah, it says now the new. The one I just got says his wife, Rob Renner's wife Michelle at their throats cut by a family member during a heated argument in their home leading to their tragic death. So they're pretty sure for. I don't know, they don't have the son in custody or anything. But that's a wild one, man. That's. Those. Are those strange? Like this can't be right. I'm right. I was at the Sun's game last night. My friend Colin text me and he's like, did you see what happened to Rob Reiner? And I'm like, no. And then he had sent, you know, the obituary thing and I was like, whoa. So that can't be real. Is this real? I don't know why that one kind of shocked me, but it did. He was never like a. An upset guy. He was always the goofy. I mean he was always mad politically. Like you listen to him on politics, you just turn it off. But he was very funny and goofing around stuff. His Andre the Giant documentary is fantastic.

[Byron]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Because Andre the Giant was on the Princess Bride and was just awful at his job and drunk all the time. And the stories are legendary of him drinking like 30 or 40 beers and a couple pizzas just on set and still couldn't get drunk. It was just non stop Andre the Giant stories. And he did that documentary was phenomenal. That's a weird one though. So I guess when you say want to see a dead body? He had no idea that that was going to be Stand by Me come true. So yeah, we'll keep our Eyes on that.

[Byron]

Just that the other celebrity, Peter Green.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, he was the guy from Pulp Fiction. He's on Friday, right? Yeah, he was down in the basement with the gimp. Oh, boy. He was the gimp. Yeah. That was a crazy one. But the. Haven't had a really weird celebrity death in a while. Can't think of the last one. It's like a really strange kind of. That's this. This one got me. I don't know why, but it just did. I think he's been around the whole time, from all in the Family to just right to Spinal Tap, right when they kind of ended that and he's still around. And then Spinal Tap comes out. Then When Harry Met Sally, Then Misery is like A Few Good Men. People forget he directed that. It's like just this list of movies that are great.

[Byron]

I actually started the second Spinal Tap on Friday afternoon.

[John Holmberg]

Horrible. I heard it's absolutely bad.

[Byron]

I got about 15 minutes into it. I'm good.

[John Holmberg]

Well, I mean, how much more of the joke.

[Byron]

I'll come back to it. That. Exactly.

[John Holmberg]

You know, they're old now. That's the joke.

[Byron]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

You get over that. The first sighting. Because Harry Shearer looks like he's a thousand. And after you see that, you're like, all right, what else can you guys do? More funny songs or just the same ones again? And they chose to do the same ones again. So. Yeah, I just. I don't know what you can do with that one. That was more of just a.

[Byron]

And the opening. The same thing. You know how he. He opens up Marty the Berg, or whatever his name is in the movie.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Byron]

Where he says, enough of me blabbing.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, he does. Yeah.

[Byron]

Kind of a little different, but the same thing.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. I find for me, yeah, it's the same. It's going to be the same exact blueprint to make people happy. But, yeah, I don't know what's going on with that. It's a. I don't know. There's a lot of strange stuff that goes on in the world, but that's. That's. Sometimes those things just punch you right in the nuts and you're like, what the hell was that?

[Byron]

Which is weird because, like you said, I mean, I do that on Friday, just randomly, like, ah, let me just check it out. And then this happened.

[John Holmberg]

It's just not good. Anyway, speaking of Friday, great night over at Stand Up Live. Thanks to everybody who showed up. That was a lot of fun. Calienda was on point. John Lovitz was on point. Kato Kalin came out and was just Kato y did his cato thing. I had the opportunity after the show on Friday when we had our big happy ending show. And that's the best part. Happy endings represents two things for me. An insanely stressful, like, week and a half of trying to arrange and get everything right, and. And then the show happens and it's over and I realize I don't have much to do for the rest of the year. That's it. That's just.

[Byron]

It closes it out.

[John Holmberg]

It shuts it down. So, like, now I'm like. Even last night, I'm like, I don't even have to go to bed if I don't want to, like, ever again. I can. I don't need naps. The show is going to do itself in the next couple of days. I'm not going to throw in a ton of energy and effort. Everybody's mind's on something else. Beth's kicking her ass over there with Christmas music. This is done. This is finished. So we. Yeah, so now it's over and this big weight's lifted off my shoulders and I can do anything I want. It feels amazing. But that was a blast. And then Saturday, because while Lovitz is in town, he always wants to do stuff. He's coming back in a couple weeks because they've got. He's got his New Year's Eve show and he's gonna do the first week of January. And he. He calls me Saturday morning. We were out till about 3:30. Not lovett tonight, but me and my friend Jordan, and we ended up going to ihop. We were starving. And then Jordan almost got killed. We left the club and started to drive up 7th street, and I was ahead of him and he was behind me. I have the top off of the Broncos, so I can hear everything. Not because I can, but I just can. And as we're going up 7th Street, I hear this incredible screech. I've been searching the news for this for. For three days now. Incredible screeching sound. It's like a train off the tracks. Noise. And it's flying out of a residential area. I see sparks fire. And it's coming at me, probably, and I'm not exaggerating. 70 or 80 miles an hour, and I'm not lined up for it. So I go by and I look over into the neighborhood and this thing is barreling towards 7th Street. It's a truck, no front wheel, and it is flying into the road. And Jordan's about five or six car lengths behind me, and we're going on the road. And I just go right to my rearview mirror as I'm driving. And this guy goes right out into the road. And I watch Jordan's headlights go into oncoming traffic. I don't know how. Luckily, it was like two in the morning. Dodge, everything, get out of the way. And then the dude who's coming out in the truck hits his brakes. And because he has no front wheel, it just fishtails. The back end of his truck whips in front of Jordan's car. I lose the lights again, see him come out. This Jordan Doc. Disgraced Dr. Jordan made two of the greatest driving moves I've ever seen in my life. And immediately my phone rings in the car. And he's like, did you say that? And I'm like, yeah. And then another car comes out that same street. And that truck that fishtailed is now going back into that neighborhood. And another car's coming out. It does. That was chasing him. It wasn't a cop. Somehow horrible going on. And I'm like, well, that resulted in a. A car rolling over or hitting a house. There was no control and nothing. I haven't seen no death report. No death report, no murder, no. Why were these guys doing this? Where's the dead body? Downtown. I think they killed Rob Reiner. I think that's exactly what happened. Too soon. But they. Yeah, they. It was the weirdest thing ever. So we hit the IHOP at 3. Jordan's just ghost white. He's like. We were both. I keep having like these. Think about it. Shivers. And then we go and sit down at ihop and every once in a while we talking and be like, hey, remember about 30 minutes ago when I was dead? Like, yeah.

[Brett Vesely]

I don't know.

[John Holmberg]

I still don't know how he got that car to do a double. Double move in and out of oncoming traffic. And then he had to dodge that truck again.

[Byron]

Movie.

[John Holmberg]

It was. It was. It was a absolutely. Like. It was choreographed. It was incredible. So. And whatever that dude was doing, I don't know how you make a car go 70 or 80 miles an hour with no front tire. And I mean, it was none. It was down on the. It was on the drum. It was weird. And. Yeah. So we go to this thing at 3:30, we're laughing like, all right, you're alive. Don't get killed on the way home. Leave. And you're thinking to yourself, you know, we left that thing at like 12:31 o'. Clock. Lovett's calls me at 8 on Saturday. Hey, what's going on? Like, I don't know. Sleep. Sleep seems right about now, don't you think? I was thinking we could grab lunch. Yeah. At lunchtime, you call. If you don't call at 8 to see what's going on for lunch, I haven't had anything to eat to start today.

[Byron]

Just to make sure you don't make any plans.

[John Holmberg]

Well, I wasn't gonna. I was gonna sleep. My plans were to not answer the phone. But I call him, like, oh, there might be a problem.

[Byron]

No.

[John Holmberg]

So we go to. And he and Kato Kaelin are staying together. Same hotel. Not in the same room. Maybe. I don't know. Maybe things are gone.

[Byron]

They did leave together.

[John Holmberg]

Well, they did walk each other out. Kato said, I'll take care of John. I didn't know what that meant at the time. And so he goes, yeah, cater's gonna come with us. You don't care. Like, I don't care. All right, fine. And then I'm like, that's the weirdest thing ever. Merry effing holidays. From the Big Red Radio. It's John Holmberg from the morning sickness. And football season is in full swing. And underdog is the best place to get in on all the action. Playing on underdog is easy. Just pick whether your favorite player is going to go higher or lower on stats like rushing yards, receptions, touchdowns. This week, I'm looking at my Steelers, and I am selecting Darnell to go higher than one touchdown and hoping that Lamar Jackson goes lower on rushing yards. Download the app today. Sign up with promo code HMS to score a hundred dollars in bonus entries when you play your first $5 underdog make picks win money must be 18 plus. 19 plus in Alabama and Nebraska, 19 plus in Colorado for some games, 21 plus in Arizona, Massachusetts and Virginia. And present in a state where underdog fantasy operates. Terms apply. See assets.underdogfantasy.com web play and getterms. Underscore dfs underscore.HTML for details. Offer not valid in Maryland, Michigan, New Jersey, Ohio and Pennsylvania. Concerned with your play? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit www.ncpgambling.org. in New York, call the 24. 7, Hope line at 1-877-8-HOPE NY or text Hope NY 467-369.

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[John Holmberg]

We go over to the Windsor to have lunch, and he brings his dog, Jerry. Lovett's does. Cato's there. He's got a flight at 3. We meet about 12:30. And so he's got his bags and stuff. Cato's dressed nicely and sitting. I. I was on the end the circular booth and it was Lovett's, Cato. Right? And then Jerry and Megan popped by for a second. Just say hi because Lovett's like staring at her. So we go into the circle and. And Lovett's is feeding Jerry over Cato salmon because he had some. A Jewish meal. What are they? The locks and. Yeah, locks and locks. So he's at the Windsor. I didn't even know they had that. He saw it immediately.

[Brett Vesely]

It was like the secret Jew menu.

[John Holmberg]

His Judar went off and it was like, look at that. I know. So he's. He reaches over and he's giving the dog salmon, and the dog throws up on Cato Kalin right there at the restaurant. He's eating too much rich fish, no caper. And then Cato goes, oh, your dog just threw up on me. He didn't throw up on you. He just coughed up the food. Like, I'm pretty sure that's the definition of throwing up, John. I'm not sure Cato's right. The dog just puked on him. He's fine. Like, who's fine? Cato's not. He's got puke on his. He's got to go. He's getting on a plane a little bit. And Cato's like, it's okay, it's okay. And then Jerry, the dog is and does it again. It's like, puka. Oh, he's got me again. He got me again. Lovett's didn't do a thing about it. Didn't offer him a napkin or any. I'm giving him like, here, Kato, clean up.

[Brett Vesely]

Why isn't Lovett's sitting next to his dog instead of across?

[John Holmberg]

Well, because Megan had the dog for a second, so they were kind of. The other thing yeah, it's like, you're lucky that's Lovett's dog vomit. You should be. You should frame your pants. Oh, like you haven't had worse stains on you. It's pretty good. Pretty good joke there. But he was like, I'm good, I'm okay. And it stunk. It's dog vomit and fish.

[Byron]

They loved him on the flight.

[John Holmberg]

It's brutal. So he texts me. He goes, I literally got in the Uber on the way to the airport. And the guy's like, something, did you some puke on your pants? Because he had a big stain. He goes, yes. He goes, actually, something did. The Uber driver pointed it out. I had vomit on my pants. So, anyway, yeah, it was a weird afternoon, but it's all over now. The boys have all gone home and that's that. So that was it. Then you feel like, ah, it's all okay, everything's okay. Then you realize that your emails and your fans of people of the show, of the station are going to bother you. And so it added a little more stress. And as you guys are going to email like crazy and I can hopefully get it done with, I'll try to answer as many as I can. Yes, Fitz is no longer part of 98KUPD. And this was a decision made clearly for money reasons. And also, we have another person named Paul. Paul Sura, our production guy. He is no longer part of kupd, and that's just basically another one for monetary reasons. So our company, it's their bat and their ball, they get to do whatever they want with it, has decided to make those cuts to save money for the overall product of our broadcast company nationwide. And evidently they hit all over the place. I have my feelings about that. I don't know that it's relevant or pertinent at all, but it is what it is and it's business. And, you know, I'll just say you've heard me complain about the way this operation has been handled the last few years. And whether I agree or disagree, I can look at this and go, well, there's probably something to say about why this happened, and it had nothing to do with it. Was it performance based? I don't know what they thought of it. I don't know their opinions high up. I'm not blaming Trip at all. This was just kind of a thing where it's like, you need to start finding ways to get this down to a certain number because our other stations in other cities can't survive. So I know. I'm with you. So the emails are coming in. We had a couple comments that I had. People were sending me things about the show Friday. I didn't see Fitz. Is he not allowed to be there? I'm like, look, nobody's. I'm not at all in the. In the Good. I'm glad Fitz has gone camp. I don't think that's a thing. I've worked with him for 20 years. I thought the world of the guy still do and hopefully, you know, remain friends as close as you can. When somebody. And he can stick around town, I don't know what he's going to do next. But yes, that happened Friday. And it always throws a shocker into people and when they listen to something for a long time and then it just disappears. It doesn't seem fair, especially when you've been on for 20 years. But the last thing you want to do is give a dude who's got 20 years on the in the saddle one last ride. Because usually, I don't know if you guys know this, but there we have gigantic doors to the studio. And the first thing they do in radio when they put doors in is take the locks off. Because there have been incidences that the jock who knows he's going to get fired will seal himself in that room. And it is soundproof, giant steel doors usually. And the dudes will go off on the air about why they lost their jobs. And it's so they did. We've just got a deadbolt that spins. It has no bolt. It has nothing. And that's on all of them. I don't know if you've noticed that the office doors have locks, but anything with a microphone and recording devices, you can't lock the doors because they're. They know deep down eventually they're going to. They're going to ice somebody who's nuts and that person's going to go off. And it's happened too often. So they, you know, Fitz would have had an opportunity to say goodbye and whatever, but radio executives that don't know him, mostly our owners would never allow that because they're like, what do you think? And probably the right move. But I don't think Fitz would have done something like that either way. Yes, I know.

[Byron]

And all the other departments are kind of on eggshells somewhat. If you ever see I need to talk to you.

[John Holmberg]

Well, oh, look, if you're. If the, if the big wig at your building comes in to your office and he's never been there and he drags in the HR later, you're Fired. You don't even have to say it anymore. Like there's just such an obvious. And he's got like a pamphlet in his hand and he's just standing outside your door. I even asked Paul, I'm like. He goes, I, I, he said, I. I watched Trip come in with Susie from hr and he said, oh, I knew the second they walked in. He goes, my heart didn't even beat. He's like, oh, all right. I wonder what I'm. I wonder if they're going to take care of me. They, you know, lobbed his head off.

[Brett Vesely]

Well, it happened like, I saw that walk, you know, down the hall during the entertainment room.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, yeah. Oh, was that when it happened? Oh, with Paul? Yeah.

[Brett Vesely]

Because then you can see right out the window there.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, geez. Oh, yeah. You were looking right at it. I didn't get to see any of that.

[Byron]

I would have reported it.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, no, I would have, I would have. Well, I mean, breaking news, we'd have tried to lock our door. We'd have thrown the locks on there. But in radio, you know what's crazy about that is this is a business where people get fired constantly, or used to at least, and have zero security in the job. Fitz was here for 20 years. He was the new guy. Yeah, we've been. Everybody in this building's been here forever.

[Brett Vesely]

The station's an anomaly as far as that goes.

[John Holmberg]

Nobody leaves and we're not used to it. But I. When you talk to radio guys, they're all gypsies. Like, oh, I got fired St. Louis, and then I got fired in Kansas City. They got fired in Topeka, then I got fired in Springfield, then I got fired in Atlanta. And they wear it as a badge of honor. None of us have that. No. So having it in the building is kind of a. Oh, this sucks kind of thing. And you just felt like the whole building, you know, every office has had a Black Friday where the. Oh, geez. We had a couple back at the old station. We got bought by a company and another company came in and bought the other half of our company. So we were two companies in the same building and the other company and.

[Byron]

They had to get leaned.

[John Holmberg]

Cleaned house in front of us and all of our co worker friends that worked at Coyote. And was it the other one? I don't remember. The other stations, they, they just through the intercom. Dave Marshall, please come to the office of Todd. Who's Todd? Todd is the new manager and he's gonna fire you. It was just basically, if you heard your Name on the intercom. It was over. And, you know, craig Martin, please come to the hallway to talk with Todd. And Craig looks at me and goes, that's it. He gets up and he walks away. He was part of the other half. And we're like, does this. Is this coming for us with our new owners, too? They fired everybody. The whole place, one at a time. They couldn't even, like, do a joint session. They fire every person. And everyone knew who was fired. It's like, they don't. Ralph, please come. It's like, oh, I love Ralph. See you, Ralph. And he just walked that walk of death, like, what's happening? Down the hallway? And all of them got fired. And I was like, this is crazy. And then they got to hang around in the building and tell us, like, they compared severance packages and all that stuff. Radio is a ugly bitch, and it's usually run by people who don't know what they're doing. I'll say that we're lucky we've got Tripp, but I think he's, like, one of two that know what they're doing. In a position of power and radio completely. Most of them are jackasses who just had nice suits and impressed the other guys in suits. You look like me. I don't know what I'm doing either. And then they hire him. And then that guy gets fired for failing and gets a better job. It's a business where everybody ascends through failure. If you get fired, you get a better job. It's the craziest thing. It's. It's. I've seen people who can barely tie their shoes, but they look nice in the suit. They've got the hair, and there's. And the next thing you know, they're like, what happened to that guy? He was a terrible manager. Oh, he's the vice president of blah, blah, blah, blah.

[Byron]

He's running the market.

[John Holmberg]

He's running the southwest region. I'm like, he's a moron. How did that happen? How did Marv get another job? I said out loud about Marv Nyren. How did that guy ever get another job? He's the dumbest person I've ever worked with and completely inept, completely stupid. And the next thing you know, he's shaking hands with me, like, oh, did you ever get a job? You were working at Starbucks as dumb as you are. No, no, no. I'm the president of Intercom Broadcast. I'm like, what? That's crazy. You're the dumbest man I've ever known. That's how radio works. So hopefully it works that way for Fitz and Paul, because neither of them are, you know, rocket scientists. So there's a good chance they could be radio executives in the next few days, based on the history of what I know of this business. Merry effing holidays from the big red Radio. It's the holidays, and Hooters is serving up the cheer. Grab a friend and dive into the pick three. Just $10.99 per person, minimum.

[Brett Vesely]

Two people.

[John Holmberg]

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[Byron]

Wait a minute.

[Brett Vesely]

Fitz is going to be a Bob.

[John Holmberg]

Fitz is going to be a Bob. The Bob's around. Look. Look at a Bob.

[Brett Vesely]

They'll give it cooler.

[Byron]

Then he'll either be a bo or he'll be a new part of Dave Ramsey financial covering this afternoon.

[John Holmberg]

The. The insanity of it all is. Oh, Trip just said we offered Fitz the opportunity to go on the air, and he declined. I didn't know that. That's. See, and that's because, like I said, one of two. Trip trusts. He understands.

[Byron]

Doesn't happen too often.

[John Holmberg]

No, Fitz declined that. That's strange for me. I would. I found that odd. Well, how weird is that? And offering him the opportunity to go on the airs a trip reap move. That's why we like Tripp. All the other ones would have been like, I don't know that I'd have trusted him. And I like the guy, but I think. I think Tripp, that was dangerous. But I. Look, I just. The radio Bobs are, you know, they're driving the business into the ground. We've been watching this for a long time from the outside in, and that's a matter of time before it's us boys.

[Brett Vesely]

Something to look forward to.

[John Holmberg]

Something to look forward to. We'll ride it out as long as we can. We'll suck the marrow out of this skeleton. But they pretty much ever seen Dances with Wolves. That's who radio executives are. They're the ones that went through and took parts of the buffalo and left the rest to rot and then wondered why the Indians were mad. Kind of a that. But it is what it is, you know, and it's business. Everybody's got Bob's. Everybody's got that day in the world of corporate everything. So do I love Fitz? Do I miss them? Yes, absolutely. But it is part of this cruddy business and cruddy business in general. And he did an awesome job for a long, long time. I'm shocked that even Tripp let him have a shot because what if he did go nuts? We took the locks off the doors for a reason.

[Byron]

I'm laughing the other way if it was us or you.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Byron]

And you can do the last show.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Okay. All right. You bet.

[Brett Vesely]

You can't do odds on that 1.

[John Holmberg]

0% chance that if they I me that they'd lock a door on the outside. He's not allowed back in. No, it's. Yeah, it says so. One morning, we're gonna wake up John. This is from Mike McCormick and have Richard tell us. Yeah, John was fired. You think Rich is going to stick around? Probably just for the announcement.

[Byron]

Good morning, John.

[John Holmberg]

It's John Gordon here in the mornings, Johnny in the morning, JG in the am. What's up? Let's bring in the strippers.

[Brett Vesely]

All right.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, homebuyer got fired, but I'm not allowed to talk on the radio ever again. Yeah, I asked Tripp Friday when it all kind of happened.

[Brett Vesely]

I'm like.

[John Holmberg]

Because I saw some of the severance packages, treated these people pretty well, you know, in fairness to the Bob's. They did a nice job giving it back. And I said, that's nice. Over a long period of time. He made sure not to just Crush them. These guys are going to be all right for a while. And I said, you can go ahead and take care of me that way. That sounds nice. To get some time off, you get some, you know, paycheck here and there. Your severance packages sound pretty good. I got a severance package once in my life. And if you've ever had a severance package and it was seven and a half months. Here's two things about a severance package that are awesome. You find out if you're going to be any good at retirement. And I am going to be great at retirement. I mean, I was 28, and I realized this is the life for me. Paychecks rolling in, I can do whatever I want all day. All I did was I lived in Los Angeles at the time. I drove around sites of famous LA murders and just stood there. Didn't. It was before cell phone came. Didn't take pictures. It was just for my own memories. I toured Forest Lawn Cemetery for celebrities. That was my. I didn't want to go do paparazzi and chase celebrities. I was just like, how many dead ones are here? And I found a bunch of them. It was great. And then I realized I got fired on January 6th. And I'm like, I got seven and a half months. It's gonna last forever. In the end of June, I realized I hadn't really looked for a job. I'm like, I got one.

[Byron]

I got 60 days, I got a.

[John Holmberg]

Check left, and then I'm done. And less than that, the exact same company that fired me called me that week and said, we made a mistake. Yeah, you did. So basically, they paid me to not work there for about eight months and then had me back for, like, triple the amount they were paying me because I thought I was playing hardball, because I didn't really want to go back. And I'm like, yeah, you gotta double my pay and pay for plane tickets. I want. I'm not moving back. You're gonna fly me back and forth. And they're like, all right. And I didn't expect that to be a yes. And so I kind of was like, oh, okay. And then I said yes and went back. And I'm like, oh, I don't want to be here again. Another year went by, but they paid me a lot of money to not work. And I realized right then and there that was what I should have gone to college for, is, how do. How do you become a professional retiree? Like, I would have been great at it. From age 23 on, I would have been amazing. So Tripp sat in my office and we talked on Friday, and I was like, geez, it would be great. If you'd like. Don't you want to call the. Call Susie from hr and let's get up here and get a package together. I think that would be nice. Not a chance. Like, come on. Can I have a last day on the air? Are you out of your mind? But, yeah. So we all get it. And I'm getting all the emails. I'll try to answer them. I know it's weird, and I know people still have a strange. You know, we. The one thing I love about radio that doesn't seem to resonate with Bob's, which is why I have a beef with radio, is they don't understand the local connection. They keep trying to do stuff that. That is homogenized and worked in St. Louis. So let's try it here. Whatever. And our company is better at that than most. Although I do see that they're kind of leaning into it for money reasons. But when you lose somebody like that and they've been kind of part of your drive for 20 years, it feels like you lost somebody on your carpool. And so I will pass on as many nice things about Fitz as possible, but don't yell at me. I didn't do it, and I couldn't protect him. And it wasn't one of those things where we hate fits. It's just. It is what it is. And Paul's the same. Paul's a great guy, too. And a couple other people in the building that I didn't work very closely with also got bounced. And it's just part of business. It sucks. It's life. And they say, it's not personal. It's business. And then you realize it's only personal to you because they don't want to pay you anymore. That's pretty personal. That's a phrase that needs to stop being said. It's not personal. It's business. Because, damn it all, when somebody tells you we don't want you to work here anymore, it feels pretty personal. But, yeah, he's. I don't even know how to handle all these emails that come in saying, you guys killed Fitz. I'm like, we did not kill Fitz. How's the station's gonna ever survive? And we've had that. Every time somebody leaves, all the people who listen are like, that's the end of that. That's that. It's the end of that. It's like, no, it's part of the process. 20 years in one place. That's a celebration.

[Brett Vesely]

Yeah, especially in radio.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, my gosh. That's incredible. It's incredible. So, you know, tip of the cap defense, and I hope wherever he lands, he lands in a better spot. But, you know, maybe, maybe not. I don't even know if he's wanting to do radio. I talked to him a little bit on Saturday. I said, hey, whenever you're. Whenever your head clears the cobwebs on this, this doesn't feel good. And I don't want to sit and have initial reactions. I said, but if you want to talk, I'm around, and we'll go grab a beer over the holiday break. And he goes, let's do it. So I'll. I'll definitely.

[Brett Vesely]

Supposed to take a motorcycle ride once we're on vacation. Cleared mind a little bit.

[John Holmberg]

So this is us saying we still love fits. The people you want to email don't even live in this city. So find them up there. Hubbard Broadcasting. You want to yell at them, go ahead. They're not going to say anything either. They'll just. They'll just throw all your emails away. At least we acknowledge it. But, yeah, we'll have them tip. Tip one out for Fitz later today. And maybe if you see him around, buy him a drink, because he's on fixed income now, at least for a while. But, yeah, he'll be all right. Wonder where he's gonna go. I always wonder that, too. Remember, you know, when radio. It is fun, though. I will say this. When one of the guys you hate gets fired, because there's always. That didn't happen this time. There's no. I really don't have a beef with anyone in this, Bill. Well, some people, I would laugh if they got fired, but not at this station. No, not at KUPD at all. There's only like, three of us now.

[Byron]

Right.

[John Holmberg]

The whole thing is empty. But there's some people that you're like, oh, that guy got ice. That's. There have been a few. There was a guy at the Zone that just took one right there, and it was an ugly firing. And he. Oh, I loved it. He was such a jerk. I don't want to say his name because I just don't want him to even be acknowledged. But we golfed with him once, and he forgot his golf clubs. Remember him?

[Byron]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

And he lost his mind on us because he forgot his golf clubs.

[Brett Vesely]

How's that your fault?

[John Holmberg]

We still don't know. And, I mean, he was just screaming and yelling. He was Tall. He had to use rented clubs. And he's like, this is a bunch of hate. This hate. You hate them. Like, then go home and get your clouds at our fold. You forgot your clubs. Yeah. Which. You know what? You guys don't even care. Like, I can't hit a clock. I can't hit a ball with these. You need to go home. We were being nice. Yeah. Don't play. Get out of here. 18 holes of that guy being a dick. And if you ever walked in the studio, he would always start right before he went on the air. And all he was doing is going 115 the zound. That was Natalie Imbruglia. We'll be right back. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. Like, you're not that important, dude. That was a seven second break. And then if you walked in there at all. Mary Effing Holidays from the Big Red radio. Hey, it's John Holmberg from the morning sickness. When my beloved dog Dutchy started to slow down, I knew in my heart the time was going to come. That's when I reached out to Happy Endings in Home pet euthanasia. Once Dr. Fixler got to my house, he explained every step, answered all the questions, and created a peaceful, loving atmosphere right there. We were able to hold Dutchy on her favorite blanket. Happy Endings made it as peaceful as the moment could be. If your furry companion is getting close to that time, whether it's a dog or a cat and you want the comfort of home, the compassion of professionals, and the dignity your pet deserves, call Happy Endings. Visit online happy endings euthanasia.com because every pet's life should have a happy ending. It's John Holberg from the morning sickness and I'm talking to you about FanDuel. FanDuel is the number one sports book for same game parlays. From points and rebounds to threes and assists. FanDuel is the best place to combine your favorite picks into a same game parlay or track every stat live all in one easy to use app. And right now is the best time to join because new customers, customers get $150 in bonus bets if your first five dollar bet wins. So you can bet on the players you love like I do. The NBA is a blast to bet on. You can check out matchups, watch the Suns play the Clippers. Are you going to go with Devin Booker to go over how many points is he going to score? You can set that and then add in assists blocks for Nick Richards. So many parlay options and all you have to do is dig around, search and find the one that's right for you. Head over to FanDuel.com KUPD and sign up today. FanDuel official sports betting partner of the NBA, 21 plus and present in Arizona. First online real money wager only. $5. First deposit required. Bonus issued as non withd bonus bets which expire seven days after receipt. Restrictions apply. See [e-mail] Gambling problem. Call 1-800-next-step or text NEXT STEP to 533-42. Morning sickness. I had a friend who was a production guy. He'd get in the studio every once in a while because the computer at that time was in the studio. And he'd walk in, he goes, can I help you? My buddy Collins. Like, no, I'm just a big fan. And he points the computer. Settle down, Noriega. Calm down. Yeah, exactly. Let's get you some proactive. What are you, 70 and you still have acne? Shut up. I'm about to go on the air. That was Edmund McCain, 90. Oh, we'll be right back. And there you go. He was horrible human being. And he took one and there was like a lot of people. High five. And like, Jiro got fired today. And we laughed and laughed. And then when other stations catch one, like Bruce Kelly, who he's going to call me just for saying his name again. Still the greatest firing of all time in radio because he whipped his dick out for the Disney. He calls me every time I bring it up. You know, that's not what happened. I'm like, according to the Internet and the newspaper articles, yes, it did. Well, no, that. But I had been okay. I don't know why.

[Byron]

I think the one before the guy that got fired because, you know, I forgot the golf clubs was our fault.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Byron]

The person before them was like, who drank my Scope?

[John Holmberg]

Oh, yeah. We had that lady who drank all the scope. She would bring full bottles of scope in, and we had questions because by the end of her shift, she was a little loopy.

[Byron]

Where did my scope go?

[John Holmberg]

And she would bring full bottles. She had huge purse. And inside that purse was nothing but a big bottle of green Scope. And she'd take. She'd drink it the whole bottle. It wasn't like spitting it out. It wasn't for. And I'm like, geez, you go through a lot of scope one day. And she goes, I just have to have fresh breath. She started at 11, and by 12:30, one of five zones. How you doing?

[Byron]

I don't think something's Right here.

[John Holmberg]

Something right. Her breath is insanely fresh. But she seems. It's. And then the bottle of Scope. Those big bottles half gone.

[Byron]

Costco.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, yeah. Was the meaty bottle.

[Byron]

Buy them in two bottles.

[John Holmberg]

And then she got iced for performance issues, which was too much scope, is what they were trying to say.

[Byron]

No live reads in the final hour.

[John Holmberg]

Did you tape your last hour before you get here and then just work what you. Why would I do that? Well, it's just too much fresh breath is what we're thinking, But I think that they fired her for performance issues because if they'd have said, you're drinking too much Scope, she'd have said, well, I'm an alcoholic. And then they had to pay for more, so they dodged all that. It was great. There's some good firings in radio. Real good. We had a guy who. Well, we had one day Jay over at the other station. We've talked about him a million times. Who came in and. And they were introducing him to people as, this is the best salesman you'll ever meet. This guy's gonna turn everything around. And he told one of the hotter sales girls that she had. Great.

[Byron]

Went to lunch, Come back from lunch, opens the door of the hallway, there she is. You got a nice rack.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, thank you. New guy. And then she told on him. And then we all got memos the next day that the great new salesperson that was gonna change everything no longer worked there. We here at CUPD had a guy named Ron Stryker who did our production stuff when we first started back in early 2000s, and he was awesome.

[Byron]

What a voice.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, dude's amazing. So he left to go work in Indiana or something, and they hired this other dude named Mark. I don't know.

[Brett Vesely]

Is that his name?

[John Holmberg]

I remember his last name. I remember being afraid of him, though, when they introduced me, I'm like. Like. He shook hands and, like, instead of saying, hey, nice to meet you, he's like, you got a problem with me? And I'm like, wow, that is your first words to me. And so I'm like, no, we're good. And just joke. I thought he was kidding. Within two days of being in the job, he threw an office chair at a salesperson and had to be told to go home. And they warned everybody before, hey, we're letting the lunatic. We didn't know him very good. It's like, you know, you take a dog home from the shelter, and it's like he. He bit someone a long time. You find out he's got Like, a massive bite history. His whole resume was getting fired for taking swings at people. Nobody asked any questions. And he threw a chair at one of the sales ladies, and they. They got everybody out like. Like there was a. You know, an active shooter. Like, all right, everybody, he's in his office. Everybody out the back door. Run. Don't all you go at once in your cars. We were driving cars around to the front, and then they fired him. Replaced him with another guy who. When he got fired, we had to go get the ladies cars out of the parking lot and pull them around front because he was. We thought he was going to kill everybody. He wouldn't leave. He was walking around the parking lot just like. We didn't know what was going on. Couldn't talk to him. Like, you. Hey, man, you all right? I've got to kill everyone in there. Like, okay, we're going back here. We're going to go back in now. Okay? Why? Talking to. Why don't we have. Why don't we have locks on the doors? I'm calling him. I'm going to kill every mother. If I meet eyes with you, I'm going to kill you. Okay, bye. We ran back in, like, shutting doors.

[Brett Vesely]

One of the few times I was happy I did Overnight.

[John Holmberg]

You worked overnight? Chuck fired him and comes down. That was crazy. He went nuts, and he said, he's still here. Lock the doors.

[Byron]

Where's Croft?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, we did. I'm gonna kill Ron Croc. I'm gonna kill Brady Balkan. I'm gonna kill. He had this crazy voice, and he just started wandering around the parking lot. None of us could go home. We were done. They fired him after our show was over, and we just sat there and twiddled our thumbs until, like, two. Until the threat was over. None of that happened Friday, actually. It was very close. Wonderful, actually. Good adult stuff.

[Byron]

It made me think of another one when we were with an old building that. Nowhere else but we had a guy that was on the AM station. He passes away. He's the program director, and just left his car. His car sat out in our apartment.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, he didn't die yet. Oh, yeah.

[Brett Vesely]

He was still alive.

[Byron]

He was still alive, but the car still remained.

[John Holmberg]

Car stayed for years. After he got fired, he left his car in our parking lot. We just beat the hell out of it with that.

[Brett Vesely]

Somebody thrashed it.

[John Holmberg]

I don't know.

[Brett Vesely]

Nothing to do with that.

[John Holmberg]

You were big on that. Overnights, Brett would go out and we'd show up in the morning and, like, more windows had been blown out the tires were. There was a coyote den in the car. Like, it was. He left it there, and we didn't know what to do.

[Brett Vesely]

No. Then he came back to get it.

[John Holmberg]

He did? Oh, he did.

[Brett Vesely]

Remember that?

[John Holmberg]

No.

[Brett Vesely]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. And I. He came back to get it, and J.J. calls me up, and he's like, can you put the tires back on the car? We got to get rid of that thing. I'm like, well, all right. So I had to bring a floor jack down and put the tires back on it. One lug nut on each wheel.

[John Holmberg]

Wheels or all the windows.

[Brett Vesely]

Well, he had to tow it out. I guess they had to tell him, like, oh, by the way, it's not really drivable.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. If you were frustrated and worked here, you just go out and hit Henry's car with a bat.

[Brett Vesely]

It was like the printer in office space, just everybody just fading.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. It would have been years. He got fired, and years later, we're like, that car's still here, and everybody seems to take a swing at it. So if you had a bad day, you just went out on the frustration car and beat up Henry's car.

[Byron]

Yeah. Well, it got to the point where it just, like. I guess he doesn't want the car.

[John Holmberg]

There were hundreds of rabbits in it. Oh, yeah, Hundreds. Like, rabbits owned it.

[Brett Vesely]

Well, he left it, like, in one of the good parking spots. So when I was on overnights, I had some tow truck guy come down for a pair of corn tickets and.

[John Holmberg]

Drag it across parking lot.

[Brett Vesely]

And then all hell broke loose on that car.

[John Holmberg]

Once we realized we could play with it, we ruined it. And I didn't want to at first, but once it started to become obvious that this was not it was. I took a bat to it a couple of times, and it was years.

[Brett Vesely]

Later that he came back for it. It wasn't like two weeks.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Byron]

You put the tires back on.

[John Holmberg]

I had to. He did. I don't think. You know, there's, like, a nest of rabbits living in it. It's like, just put the tires back on it. See if he gets in. And then Henry shows up, rabbits get out of my goddamn car. And then he tries to start it. Like, if I ever got in my car and it was lousy with rabbits, I'd be like, all right, I'm not gonna. There's no way I'm getting back in this thing. How did he. Like, why did he want it back?

[Brett Vesely]

I don't really remember.

[John Holmberg]

He left.

[Byron]

He was told by. You gotta basically get out, or, how.

[John Holmberg]

Do you charge Fired and leave without your car? Car.

[Byron]

I know it's bad.

[Brett Vesely]

I think it was broken down or something.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, we had a second car.

[Brett Vesely]

Yeah. I think he bought another car or.

[Byron]

Something and he just figured, I'll just leave it there.

[Brett Vesely]

Yeah. And I think Chuck wanted it out of there.

[Byron]

He did. He got to a point where he's like, he made the call.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Everybody's got good firing stories at every office ever. And unfortunately, we have them right now.

[Brett Vesely]

So it's beating the hell out of that thing.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, I. I had the time. You and me and Dennis Huff.

[Brett Vesely]

Oh, yeah.

[John Holmberg]

And I had been in an event, and I went to the station after, and I'm hanging out with you guys, and Huff goes, want to go kill Henry's car? Some like, what is that? I'm like, yes. And he had a bat, like, ready to do it. I do more than anything in the world want to hit that car. I've been watching you guys dented every day, and I haven't touched it. I went out there and just went crazy on it. Next thing you know, Brett's under there with a floor jack deep drive, throwing some yantaras on it anyway. Yes, I know. And the emails, I will try to answer as best I can, but again, there's nothing wrong we can do.

[Brett Vesely]

It's not really much to say.

[John Holmberg]

Not much more to say if you. If you heard this, but if you want to be nice, you can send something to Fitz through his Instagram or his Facebook and stuff like that. I'm sure he'd appreciate that. And will the station fall apart? I don't know. We'll see. I don't think so. I don't know. It's definitely gonna be a little different, but I think we'll be all right. Not say we. We would love to have fits, but anybody gets fired that says this place is going to fall apart without me is wrong. Every place will work without you, for sure. No one is irreplaceable at all. Drake May is almost an mvp, but four years after Tom Brady left and everyone can be replaced. Oh, it was fun watching.

[Byron]

Might take a little time.

[John Holmberg]

I might have a little hiccup in the middle. Just got an adjustment period, but everyone can be replaced, so we'll miss him, though. Fitz is awesome at 6:26. Let's get a wake up song, shall we? Maybe a tribute. Sort of fits in the tantrums or something like that. We'll get that. I'll get a wake up song and scream it together. It's 98k but he wake up Arizona's most powerful rock radio station, he said. Fully erect. 98k u p t Thursday is the.

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