12-15-25 - WWBD - She Hates Men And Might Turn Lesbian - He's Realized His 18yo Kid Is Dumb - She's Been Covering For Someone At Work But Hates It

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Podcast Summary

Episode Overview

Podcast: Holmberg’s Morning Sickness
Episode: 12-15-25 – WWBD: She Hates Men and Might Turn Lesbian – He's Realized His 18yo Kid Is Dumb – She's Been Covering for Someone at Work But Hates It
Air Date: December 15, 2025
Hosts: John Holmberg, Brady Bogen, Bret Vesely, Dick Toledo

This episode of Holmberg’s Morning Sickness focuses on the listener advice segment "What Would Brady Do?" (WWBD), where the team responds to emails about rocky relationships, underperforming kids, and frustrating work situations with their trademark wit, irreverence, and candid banter.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Listener Mail: “I Hate Men—Should I Try Women?” (05:44)

Email Summary:
A woman writes in, consumed by post-divorce bitterness toward men, considering dating women for the first time after her disappointing marriage.

Hosts’ Responses

• Brady recommends patience:

  "It just takes time." (06:21)
  He equates the feeling to a hangover and suggests, like many men after a bad breakup, she’ll let time pass and probably recover interest in dating men.

• John Holmberg gets playfully explicit:

  "In the meantime, lick everything. Lick away. Test it out. Maybe you like it better… Why are you asking permission?" (08:07)
  He says if she’s thinking about it, she might as well try—while warning not to repeat her "putting through school" mistake.

• The group jokes about the universal experience of post-breakup malaise and tosses in light-hearted banter about sexuality.

Notable Quotes:

• Brady (06:59):

  "You’ll get back in."

• Holmberg (08:13):

  "Chow down, but don’t put her through school."

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2. Listener Mail: “My 18-Year-Old Is a Dumb Failure” (09:33)

Email Summary:
A dad is worried that his 18-year-old—double senior, failing grades—is directionless. The mom blames the education system. The dad asks: what job can this kid get?

Hosts’ Responses

• Holmberg instantly pegs the letter as coming from co-host Toledo, calling him out by name and playfully putting him on the spot.
• Toledo explains his son wants to be a "fashionista," flipping thrifted clothes online, and sketches designs, even has his own sewing machines and pattern makers.
• Holmberg & Crew debate:
  • Is flipping thrift store finds "entrepreneurial?"
  • Should the father pressure the son, give him deadlines, push for a diploma/GED, or just let him pursue creative gigs?
  • They agree steady work is key, with Holmberg warning about the "restaurant job trap" and comparing thrift-flipping to “a housewife’s hobby” (19:55).

Notable Quotes:

• Holmberg (13:21):

  "Some people only get their dreams when they’re asleep."

• Brady (17:33):

  "You gotta get your GED, else you’re…"

• Holmberg (19:55):

  "That’s what a housewife with nothing to do does…I repurposed it. You know what you should repurpose is your day to day, because this is dumb."

Memorable Moment:

• Holmberg commissions Toledo’s son to design show uniforms:
  • "He can make an official show uniform, all right? …If it comes back terrible, we'll let him know. And then he has to be a janitor." (16:47)

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3. Listener Mail: “My Co-Worker Always Calls Out, I Do the Work” (21:38)

Email Summary:
A corporate trainer is stuck covering for a repeatedly absent coworker, forced to travel for work while others bow out—possibly getting discriminated against for not being a parent. The boss ignores her complaints.

Hosts’ Responses

• The team discusses workplace fairness versus “ratting out” coworkers:
  • Holmberg likens it to his own career advancement, noting how being consistently available (without kids as an excuse) led him to opportunities but also more responsibilities (23:02).
• Quote:
  Holmberg (23:51):

  "You penalized yourself…Keep your legs closed, and you'd have this job."

• They agree:
  • She should consider confronting the boss directly, or even seek a better job (“pursue another career” – Brady, 22:02).
  • Flexibility and availability are “the best ability” for advancement, but also make you a target for extra work.

Notable Quotes:

• Holmberg (24:12):

  "Some people use their kids as an excuse as to why they can’t show up to work."

• Holmberg (27:20):

  "The best ability? Availability."

• Brady (27:52):

  "And look at your bank account! …So much better than going through drawers and finding bongs."

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• Holmberg on handling breakups:

  "If it was, I probably would have done it. Like, I'm trying everything until I see what sticks." (09:33)

• On kids as an excuse:

  "People with kids assume people without kids have nothing to do. And you know what? They're right—but we have…anything we want to do is nothing to do." (24:13)

• Holmberg on childlessness:

  "The best day I was ever was the birth of my kids. Mine is every day because it's the not birth of any kids. Every day is a little better than the day before when I don't have a kid again tomorrow." (25:08)

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Timestamps for Major WWBD Segments

• [05:44] – Should I become a lesbian after hating men?
• [09:33] – My 18-year-old is dumb—what do I do?
• [21:38] – I'm covering for a lazy coworker: Should I rat?

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Tone and Style

True to the HMS legacy, the conversation is hilariously blunt, peppered with edgy jokes, overt honesty, and plenty of good-natured ribbing. Holmberg and crew intertwine their answers with personal anecdotes, wisecracks, and playful digs at each other, keeping the advice both authentic and entertaining.

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Final Thoughts

Holmberg’s Morning Sickness continues to deliver fast-paced, candid advice without sugarcoating tough truths. Whether discussing sexuality after divorce, academic underachievement, or workplace resentment, the team’s balance of humor and honesty makes even tough topics approachable for listeners seeking both entertainment and real talk.

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For listeners/fans:

• If you need straight-shooting advice—with a heavy dose of dark humor—this WWBD episode delivers classic HMS.
• The examples and personal stories ensure the advice feels genuine (and often cathartic, especially for the child-free and the overworked).
• Don’t expect Hallmark platitudes—expect honesty, laughter, and a few walk-the-line jokes.

Transcript

[Brett Vesely]

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[Byron]

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[Brett Vesely]

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[Byron]

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[Brett Vesely]

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[John Holmberg]

Morning Sickness online at 98kupd.com There's a guy emailing me that just hates Frank. Hates him.

[Brady]

Is it that trucker?

[John Holmberg]

I don't know.

[Brady]

Do you remember when he first came in?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, that trucker guy. Maybe it's him. I don't know. He listened to the whole thing and he just emailed me the whole time how much he hates him. And he said, I don't know how you don't do. I got a lot of emails saying they love when Frank's here. Got hundreds of them. Actually just popped up and answered a bunch of them. Hundreds. Bless your heart.

[Brett Vesely]

Like.

[John Holmberg]

All right, don't. Just don't listen. I don't. You don't like Frank, that's fine. You're not gonna like everything. You gotta bark at me about it the whole time, baby.

[Brady]

What's his beef? He just doesn't like it.

[John Holmberg]

He doesn't like Frank thinks he hates him. He goes on and on and on, all mornings. Every look over every fifth email is him like, okay, that's enough. I get email. Frank, what are you mailing me for?

[Brady]

I mean, maybe he was really worked up that, you know, Frank talked over me a couple of times.

[John Holmberg]

No. Yeah, probably.

[Brady]

That was probably.

[John Holmberg]

It's upsetting that when you get. You can feel the audience cringe. Oh, there's gonna be a fight in that room. There is gonna be a fight. I don't know what to do with that. I don't know how to tell you. Sorry, I guess. I guess what? I'm sorry. Sorry. I can't do anything about that. Yeah, it's a thing. What are you gonna do? By the way, Tripp went with me to the Rah Rah room on Friday real quick, just for a drink before the show. You were. We just all kind of. And we were gonna meet Jen Gardner. And then one thing. I don't know, everybody's texting. I'm like, all right, we'll be down here. I was with my friend Jordan, and everybody just kind of rolls over, and Tripp goes, I'm coming down. Like, all right, where are you? Where's the. Me and Jordan are at the Rah Rah room right now. It's empty. I'm coming in. And he comes in. He looks around, he goes, I don't care what happens. This is the best part of the night. I guarantee it. Talking to everybody. He's hiring people in there. On Friday of all days, he's hiring folks. Come on down. You're hired. Kinsey's hired. That one's hired. This guy's hired. I'm like, all right. The whole. The Rah Rah's that. So I think they're gonna come work here.

[Brett Vesely]

Oh, great.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, I think they're all in. It made quite an impression on the crew. It was fun, though. It's an interesting room, isn't it, Brad?

[Brett Vesely]

Absolutely.

[John Holmberg]

It's an interesting room. And we basically run it and getting there, too. Oh, go down. Yeah. It was mainly Gardener's idea to meet up before because she had clients and stuff. Dr. Mike and the gang was there, and they came by, and she's like, we're coming to see him. Like, we're just gonna grab a quick drink. First met Anthony, and it was weird. Tripp loved it in there. I think I have to take him back.

[Brett Vesely]

We're going to become a member.

[John Holmberg]

That's what I told him. Just fork it out. I don't care about basketball. We don't either. We're in there all the time. They think about us on their off days. I was told that.

[Brett Vesely]

Oh, really?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. I'm like, that was nice. And I'm never going to let them forget that. I think about you on our off days. And I'm like, oh, I shouldn't be as hard as I am hearing that, but I am. That's really good that the club wants me there, even when they're not open. Are you ready, Brady?

[Brady]

Ready?

[John Holmberg]

It's time now to solve all the world's problems. It is. What would Brady do? And it's brought to you by our friends at MMP Guns Christmas time at Mo Money Ponto. You got loads of stuff you can go over there and grab. And also, if you've got that. That guy in your life, like I do, like my dad, who is like, you get him gun stuff. My God, it's through the moon. So they've got all the things. You can go in there and say, hey, I got a gun. Even if you're not a gun guy, go in and just say, I've got a gu. Super fan in my family. I want to get something. What would you do? An accessory, a bag, a carrying thing, a safe. They've got all that. MMP guns will take care of you. And also they build it class. It's still 100 bucks off, right?

[Brett Vesely]

Yeah. Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

You go through the builder for Christmas. Yeah, through there. And if you've got a dad or a brother or a mom or a sister or somebody who loves guns, you're like, I bought you the builder class. You go build your own AR15, your own 9, and then you get to know it and you. It's awesome. And it's priced a lot less. I think that's a great gift.

[Brett Vesely]

Plus, they give you a deal. Once you do that, builder class will give you like 10 or 20% off the accessories afterwards. So while you're there, you can even accessorize more.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, I like that. Yeah. All right, Even better. So your husband, your son, your whatever, whoever's into the guns, your wife, your crazy mother. MMP Guns is the place for you is head on over there, 12th street in Indian School. They are taking care of you. And the Brady report or the what would. Brady, are you ready, Brady?

[Brett Vesely]

Ready.

[John Holmberg]

Uh. Dear Brady, I've recently gotten divorced and I hate men. I've hated them for the last two years and I finally signed the papers. Have I mentioned I hate men? My husband X never worked. I put him through School, and he never got a job. I just found out he was siphoning money into an account of his own, too. My money. And that makes me hate him and all other men. That's right. Have I mentioned I hate men? I have an opportunity, however, to date a girl at my work, and I've never tried it. Should I abandon men or become a lesbian? Can you restore my faith or Alicia R?

[Brady]

Yeah. Just takes time.

[John Holmberg]

You think?

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Why not talk her into the.

[Brady]

You know, the first thing I also heard, you're. You have commonality with some people, and most of the time, being a man. You hear a man saying a similar thing. I just got divorced. Last thing I want to be in is relationship, and I got taken to the woodshed on this thing. I put her through school, blah, blah.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Welcome to being a man. Yeah, you're right, Brady. Welcome to being a man.

[Brady]

So you'll feel that way. It's just like. I look at it like a bad hangover. You'll say, I'm never doing that again.

[John Holmberg]

You're gonna get back in.

[Brady]

Yeah, you'll get back in.

[Brett Vesely]

I wonder what Bandy played bass for.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, well, he did.

[Brady]

Yeah. And he also went through school so.

[John Holmberg]

Well, while he was getting the ban, like, just. Just in case. That school rock, bro. Yeah. Can my drummer sleep on the couch? His girlfriend just left him, so he's homeless, babe.

[Brady]

It's not working out.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, that's what you call a drummer whose girlfriend broke up with him. Homeless. That's hilarious. That's good stuff. And speaking of lesbianism, last night at the Robber Room, I was talking to Anthony, and Anthony told a joke, and it included the word cunningus. And one of the servers named Jackie heard him. She goes, ugh, that's how I know you're old. And he goes, what do you mean? She goes? You called it cunningus. That's what my dad calls it. Why are you talking to your dad about that? The hell's going on at Jackie's house? You guys are jerks. Yeah, but you think about us when we're not here. I was told that.

[Brady]

So I would say, you know, like I said, give it a little time, but, jeez, wounds heal.

[John Holmberg]

In the meantime, lick everything. Lick away. Test it out. Maybe you like it better if it's even in your mind. You want to do it? Why are you asking permission?

[Brady]

They have the power to take away half. Just.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, exactly. The new modern times. Everybody can get married now. So chow down, but don't put her through school.

[Brady]

Yeah, make it a Learning again.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Make it. Take what you've learned from men and don't apply it to your new box chowing ways. And maybe you won't like it, but maybe you will. You might be, like, a black guy. They hate that stuff down there, from what I hear. They're not going down on that. They don't have to.

[Brady]

There's a good chance you'll experience a little more drama, but, you know.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, I don't sound like. She was married to a pretty dramatic dude, so it might be like. It's kind of. It sounds like she was married to a womanly type.

[Brett Vesely]

Oh. His band almost got signed until Nirvana.

[John Holmberg]

Showed up, and then Nirvana showed up and screwed up everything, and he had to do Midday somewhere. Next thing you know, I'm living in San Jose. Stupid Kurt Cobain. Yeah, that sounds rough, but Brady says just take your time and some other dude will, like, come change your mind.

[Brady]

Yeah, it just takes time. Let's go.

[Brett Vesely]

Bang.

[Brady]

When you broke up with someone Pour.

[John Holmberg]

Around for a while Pour around Test, test the waters what if you like it better?

[Brady]

Saying, yeah, yeah.

[John Holmberg]

If it seemed like it was never in my mind to go, I hate women. I'm gonna start blowing dudes like, that's never been on my brain. Yeah, but if it was, I probably would have done it. Like, I'm trying everything until I see what sticks. That was never an option for me. Too much hair. Dear Brady, my child is a complete failure, and I love him, but grades have all been Fs. He can barely get a D, and I think it's just dumb. His mother won't say anything. She thinks he's a genius and he's not being challenged. But we have no Einstein here. He's 18 now. He's in his second year as a senior. What do you suggest I tell him to do for a job? Because we need to start thinking about that Gary Toledo.

[Brett Vesely]

Just asking instead of writing.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. What would Toledo do? Toledo? Why don't you come in and ask that one live? Richard, You're. You're.

[Brady]

It's.

[John Holmberg]

We see it's you. What do you tell Rich to do with his son who's on a. No, not at all. You actually signed it Richard E. Toledo.

[Richard E. Toledo]

And I thought I was better at disguising that.

[John Holmberg]

What do you tell Alex? That you still go follow your dreams, even though you realize, okay, knock it off. Go. You're a janitor forever.

[Richard E. Toledo]

What. What I've told him lately is I'm like, look, I go, if that's what you want to do you got to start doing it?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Richard E. Toledo]

Like, even if it's his new spare.

[John Holmberg]

Time, what's his new, like, dream? Because he wanted to be a fashionista.

[Richard E. Toledo]

He still wants that.

[John Holmberg]

Okay.

[Richard E. Toledo]

Now he's. Now he's into selling clothes that he thrifts online. Like, he turns them around for profit.

[John Holmberg]

Wash his clothes, and then sends them again.

[Richard E. Toledo]

It's the weirdest thing. He goes and he find. I don't know how he does it, but he finds stuff that's wanted online, he puts it up on Depop and something else and sells it for a profit.

[John Holmberg]

Isn't somebody already doing that?

[Brady]

Oh, there's no.

[John Holmberg]

No, I'm saying. Isn't good will already. No, I'm. Oh, so he goes to go. You said he goes online and buys it. That's the same thing he's going to do.

[Richard E. Toledo]

No, no, no.

[Brady]

He goes.

[Richard E. Toledo]

He goes and thrifts. Oh, and then he puts it online and sells it.

[John Holmberg]

Like Jew man at Thrifty.

[Richard E. Toledo]

Exactly.

[Brady]

Exactly.

[Richard E. Toledo]

Right.

[John Holmberg]

It's working out perfectly for.

[Richard E. Toledo]

I'm going to take him to shul.

[John Holmberg]

But does he have, like a. Does he have, like, an art book that he draws designs in?

[Richard E. Toledo]

He does.

[John Holmberg]

Are they good?

[Richard E. Toledo]

He hasn't done it in a while. He's actually a pretty good sketch artist.

[John Holmberg]

I want to wear his outfits.

[Richard E. Toledo]

He'll make you a pair of pants.

[John Holmberg]

That's so weird.

[Richard E. Toledo]

It might look like a pair of curtains, but out of what? Out of denim.

[John Holmberg]

With what?

[Richard E. Toledo]

What do you mean with what?

[John Holmberg]

You have, like, sewing stuff at your house.

[Richard E. Toledo]

He's got two sewing machines. He's got a whole sewing outfit. He's got pattern makers.

[John Holmberg]

He's got everything. That's his worst nightmare. Look at that space on the jeans.

[Brady]

Does he recycle the old jeans and.

[Brett Vesely]

No, he has.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, my God.

[Richard E. Toledo]

He has yards of dens.

[Brady]

Yards of denim.

[John Holmberg]

I wished. Yards of denim. Way Jay Leno exclusive. I. I've never seen. I wish we had cameras in the room to see Brett, because when you started to rattle off all the gay things he's got, I saw it out of the corner of my eye. When you started rattle off each gay item, Brett turned more and more into De Niro. I don't know if he even realized. He goes. His face got him. Tell you what, your kid might be homosexual, but do you tell him, yeah, you've got, like, a deadline to do this?

[Richard E. Toledo]

No, I haven't done that. Yeah, but there's a couple things because he's been. He's been working a ton, which for me has been like, shut up. Just let him earn money.

[John Holmberg]

Smart.

[Richard E. Toledo]

Let him work this. And so he hasn't had. He hasn't had a lot of spare time. But when he does, I go in there and he's laying in his room watching, like, manga on TV or something. Some kind of Japanese animation.

[John Holmberg]

There's that thing again. I'm looking at you, I'm saying.

[Brady]

Do.

[John Holmberg]

You and your gay family. But he's not, like, he's just not pursuing the dream.

[Richard E. Toledo]

No, no.

[John Holmberg]

And there's the old phrase that says, you know, what is it? Like, some people only get their dreams when they're asleep.

[Richard E. Toledo]

Yeah, that's where he's at right now. So the thing I think that'll kick him in the ass is like, his whole crew is back from college now. And so they're. They're wrapping up. They're in the middle of their second year. So he's. He's going to be like, falling behind all these guys.

[John Holmberg]

I would like him to make me a pair of pants.

[Brett Vesely]

Okay.

[John Holmberg]

How much would that give me?

[Brady]

Your measurements.

[John Holmberg]

Okay.

[Brett Vesely]

I measure.

[John Holmberg]

You pay for that measuring me pay for the.

[Richard E. Toledo]

Pay for the denim.

[John Holmberg]

A 34 waist.

[Richard E. Toledo]

Okay.

[John Holmberg]

And like 35, 36 length.

[Richard E. Toledo]

Like actual 34 or like.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, yeah.

[Brady]

Or.

[John Holmberg]

I mean, like, what does that mean?

[Brady]

Like 34, 28.

[Richard E. Toledo]

You know, that's what I mean. You gotta. You gotta measure yourself.

[John Holmberg]

Brady thinks 28s are Roman numerals on his pants. It just says xl, L, L, I, I, I.

[Richard E. Toledo]

That's a 2.

[John Holmberg]

Two X's is 22, 28 XX, V111. These are extra, extra 28s. Merry effing holidays from the big red radio. It's John Holmberg from the morning sickness. And football season is in full swing. And underdog is the biggest, best place to get in on all the action. Playing on underdog is easy. Just pick whether your favorite player is going to go higher or lower on stats like rushing yards, receptions, touchdowns. This week I'm looking at my Steelers and I am selecting Darnell Washington to go higher than one touchdown and hoping that Lamar Jackson goes lower on rushing yards. Download the app today. Sign up with promo code HMS to score $100 in bonus entries when you play your first $5. Underdog Make Picks win. Money must be 18 +, 19 + in Alabama and Nebraska, 19 + in Colorado, 21 + in Arizona, Massachusetts and Virginia. And present in a state where underdog fantasy operates. Terms apply the assets.underdog fantasy.com web play and getterms_dfs._html for details. Offer not valid in Maryland, Michigan, New Jersey, New York, Ohio, and Pennsylvania. Concerned with your play, call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit www.ncpgambling.org. in New York, call the 24.7Hope line at 1-877-8-HOPE NY or text Hope NY 467-369. It's John Holmberg here, and it's time to talk about TVs Doug Hopkins of my home group and doughopkins.com I got a call from Doug the other day thanking me for leading so many of you direction. He told me a story of a listener who had been through quite an ordeal and had a house they absolutely had to sell to feel like they were getting back to a normal place in life. You just never know when simple business transactions can actually change someone's life. So you want to deal with somebody great. TV's Doug Hopkins. That's your guy. So if you want to sell your house, start the process right now [e-mail] or grab that phone and sing. Holmberg's Morning sickness. Yeah, that's not a thing. So I want to build me a pair of pants.

[Brett Vesely]

Okay.

[John Holmberg]

No, just fire away.

[Richard E. Toledo]

Okay.

[John Holmberg]

Make me an outfit. Alex, I commission your son to make me an outfit.

[Richard E. Toledo]

What. What color?

[Brady]

Denim.

[John Holmberg]

You don't care.

[Richard E. Toledo]

Green jeans?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, whatever he chooses for me to wear, I will.

[Brett Vesely]

Don't. Don't.

[John Holmberg]

You don't think it's a good idea.

[Brett Vesely]

Let him choose.

[John Holmberg]

What, you want to come back gay? That's what I'm saying. You're gonna have a gay outfit.

[Brett Vesely]

He's gonna say, oh, call me gay.

[John Holmberg]

And you're here.

[Brett Vesely]

What are we gonna be serious about now?

[John Holmberg]

Here's the thing, though, because if it's really good, this is a good way to say, hey, Alex made me some cool stuff. And then maybe other people like, I like those pants. But if he decides to make a joke out of it and dress me up like a poodle.

[Richard E. Toledo]

No, no, he wouldn't do that.

[John Holmberg]

All right?

[Richard E. Toledo]

He wouldn't do that.

[John Holmberg]

Have him do it.

[Brett Vesely]

Okay?

[John Holmberg]

I would like him today and have him make Brady. Let's all get outfits from Alex. He can make an official show uniform, all right? And that way his dream can start. And. And if it comes back terrible, we'll let him know. And then he has to be a janitor because he's getting too old for this.

[Brady]

But you're, like, might not like the current fashion. And jeans. I saw a pair of those. They look like skinny jeans.

[John Holmberg]

Huh?

[Brady]

This kid was wearing New jeans like Jankos. Get those super. They're almost. They're bell bottoms, but it's all the way up.

[Brett Vesely]

Yeah, it's like Jankos.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Brett Vesely]

Back in the day.

[John Holmberg]

Sounds cozy. I'm in on that. I got no problem to grow. But, Brady, if you had a kid that was 18, double senior, not looking smart. Ds.

[Brady]

Get you. You know, similar to what your dad told you. You got to get your ged, else you're.

[John Holmberg]

My dad just told me no GED was not happening. Yeah, GED would. I'd be dead if I said I'm just getting a ged. My dad would have killed me.

[Brady]

That diploma.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Good enough diploma. My dad would have not for Dan. That would have been the end of me. I had to graduate and I had to do it on time. If that did not happen on time, there was going to be a murder. So if you don't have that hanging over your kid, the fear of dad. He's just going to keep doing this. You have to put a little. You have to put a little respect fear on top of a kid that's.

[Brady]

Losing a little deadline, too. Like, look, I'm not gonna. You know, if you're not gonna try in school, then why should I?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Why am I gonna be honored for you?

[Brett Vesely]

Right.

[Brady]

You better. You know, either find a job somewhere. It's no offense, bruh.

[Brett Vesely]

Yeah.

[Brady]

Starts charging you rent.

[John Holmberg]

You know, here's the thing. Cut the ends of your socks off, have your toes stick out and do some Only fan stuff. Evidently, that's hot.

[Brady]

But the thrifting thing, that's. That's awesome that he's doing that because there is money.

[Richard E. Toledo]

I don't know if I'd call it awesome.

[John Holmberg]

I mean, it's not time for a meal.

[Richard E. Toledo]

It's creative.

[Brady]

Sure. I give him.

[Richard E. Toledo]

And it's.

[Brady]

And it's.

[John Holmberg]

No, it's not.

[Richard E. Toledo]

Not even entrepreneurial. It's just a way to make some extra scratch.

[John Holmberg]

It's. It's buying something cheap and small.

[Brady]

What's wrong with that?

[Byron]

No, no, no.

[Brett Vesely]

It's not a career.

[Richard E. Toledo]

He said it's awesome. I wouldn't say it's awesome.

[Brady]

I'd say the fact that it's awesome that he's looking to make side money and hustle that way rather than.

[Richard E. Toledo]

Yeah, not.

[Brett Vesely]

Or how about instead of Toledo on that.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, yeah. You have to. In order to make side money, you need steady money. And he's already got kind of a side money gig being a busboy. So get a real job.

[Richard E. Toledo]

Oh, no, he's Expo now. No more.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, he's an ex homie. He's expediting.

[Richard E. Toledo]

Next step up to waiting tables.

[Brett Vesely]

George Jefferson over here. Moving.

[John Holmberg]

Then I realized when I worked in restaurants that my ascent through the restaurant was eventually just an embarrassment and a trap. And you'll be stuck in restaurants till you're 40.

[Richard E. Toledo]

I've warned him that. I said, look at the guys that you work with.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[Richard E. Toledo]

I said, that guy that's kind of like early 30s right now. That's your manager.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Richard E. Toledo]

He's going to become bitter in the next.

[John Holmberg]

Staring your future in the face. Be careful because you don't. That's a scary.

[Brett Vesely]

Like what's his name in waiting.

[John Holmberg]

Yes. Yep. David Catter. Yeah. The fact. And yeah. Going to Goodwill and doing whatever.

[Brady]

It's cute.

[John Holmberg]

That's what a housewife with nothing to do does. I found all these at the Thrifty and then I came home and I put glitter on them and I wrote bad girl on it and I sold it online. They think that they're, you know, Dolce and Gabbana, but it's. They're just putting glitter on stuff. Like a second grader. I repurposed it. You know what you should repurpose is your day to day. Because this is dumb. That's a hobby, what you're doing.

[Richard E. Toledo]

That's it.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, it's a hobby.

[Richard E. Toledo]

Awesome that you have a hobby, but.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, but like your hobby gets a couple bucks and Unless you're crushing.

[Richard E. Toledo]

Yeah. And he's not.

[John Holmberg]

And he's got to put nine hours into that.

[Richard E. Toledo]

Like Joey Caliendo, who was crushing it.

[John Holmberg]

In the shoe game selling shoes side to side and he was doing nine, ten hours a day and algorithms on his computer. It was amazing. It was a business. Go to the Goodwill a couple times a week, grab a T shirt, glitter, you know, time bomb on the front, and then sell it again. And. Come on, it's a hobby. Dear Brady, I'm a corporate trainer. Story short, I teach people how to do their jobs in health insurance. We train in person. We have to travel for weeks at a time to train. This MF co worker I have has called out every class. She's trained for two years. So basically every time we're scheduled to train, she finds an excuse to call out and call it a day. She called out Tuesday this week, and I could even put bets on it. So I made 300 that she'd do it. Mind you, we have six other people who could. Could take over. When I spent a month in effing El Paso. Teaching BS online when I could have done it at home. We have somebody else take over. Guess who has to pick up the slack when she doesn't show up? Me. Because I chose not to get married but in a long relationship. But I don't have kids. Is this some sort of discrimination? I need to confront my boss, but I need a plan. I did schedule a meeting, but he's ghosted all of my messages since August. I love you guys. Thanks for keeping me sane. Samantha. Oh, she's.

[Brady]

You got a double whammy.

[John Holmberg]

She wants to rat.

[Brady]

Your boss is ghosting your messages. That's not a good sign.

[John Holmberg]

Because you're the single responsible woman on you.

[Brady]

Yeah, because you don't have family.

[John Holmberg]

Kids are not an excuse for your job.

[Brady]

I would try to pursue another career.

[John Holmberg]

Call in on the next one. You call in, they send you down to El Paso. For Christ's sake. I'd call in for El Paso. Every time a new company or bend El Paso, you go, once you learn your lesson.

[Brady]

It's lovely.

[John Holmberg]

It's the worst. You know what's better than El Paso? Never said this before. The city across the border from it. Juarez. It's better than El Paso. Yuck. There's nice places in El Paso. No, there's not. The only nice place in El Paso is North Texas. When you're far from El Paso.

[Brett Vesely]

On place that's nice is when it says thank you for visiting El Paso when you're driving past, leaving El Paso.

[John Holmberg]

Are you sure? 100%. Yeah. Yeah. You can't spell. El Paso is nice without ice. Ice.

[Brady]

Unless you see this being potentially a way to ascend in your company that you were the person that, you know didn't say no. But you could also get milked big time.

[John Holmberg]

I. I have a job in radio that was advanced by a girl who in the middle of a. The manager came in and said, hey, I just had somebody cancel. Can either you guys fill in? I'd never been on the air. I said, can either you guys fill in for me Sunday at 6? And she looked at me and she goes, he's never been on. And I'm like, I can do it. And she goes, well, I can't because I have my kid. And he goes. And she goes, but it's not fair. I should be next in line. And he goes, well, I'm offering it to you. She goes like, can't I have my kid? And it's just not fair. And he goes, you're giving me problems. He's giving me a solution. See, at 6. And he points to me and he leaves. And she goes, you just took my shifts. And I'm like, I think you said no. So I'm not trying to be a jerk, but I'm pretty sure you just told the boss you won't do it. Broads. How is that my fault? And she goes, well, I have a kid. I shouldn't be penalized for it. And I'm like, okay, well, then do the job. I can't. There's the problem.

[Brett Vesely]

You penalized yourself.

[John Holmberg]

Exactly.

[Brett Vesely]

Keep them closed.

[John Holmberg]

Keep your legs closed, and you'd have this job. And I think that's what I said. And then I left the room. But it wasn't my fault she had a kid. But people. Some. Some people. Not everybody. Some people use their kids as an excuse as to why they can't show up to work. Sometimes it's not the case.

[Brady]

And they're.

[Brett Vesely]

Yeah.

[Brady]

And I understand there's situations where.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, she. I'm a single mom. You know how hard that is. No, I don't. I don't. I've made better decisions in my life to not have that happen to me. So, yeah, I can show up on Sunday anytime. I did, though, notice that they did take advantage of that. Like, I was always scheduled on, like, days where everybody else. Yeah, John, will do it, because I just did. They assumed because they don't have kids, people with kids assume. People without kids have nothing to do. And you know what? They're right. But we have. Anything we want to do is nothing to do. Sometimes we're not doing anything because that's our choice that day. But God, not having kids was such a. Is the greatest. People say that is, like, my favorite day of my life. The best day I was ever was the birth of my kids. Mine is every day because it's the not birth of any kids. Every day is a little better than the day before when I don't have a kid again tomorrow.

[Brett Vesely]

Beautiful day.

[John Holmberg]

Every day is that. Remember that same gift you felt when Kirby fell out of Ronnie? And you're like, this is the best day of my life. Imagine feeling that every time you wake up. Because I do. I go into the.

[Brady]

We have that in common.

[John Holmberg]

I open the door in the guest room and I see that it's empty and there's no crib or weird posters of gunna. And I'm like, God damn it. I start crying again. It's the best day of my life. It just started over, and I can do whatever I want. But they did try to take advantage of it. So you know what? You just need to call in and say, I've got stuff to do. What do you mean? You don't have any kids. Yeah, I know I got stuff to do because of that. I have extra money, but, yeah, that sucks. You got somebody with kids using. I'd tell on her. Would you tell her. Would you rat that if you had a partner at work, Brett.

[Brett Vesely]

Okay.

[John Holmberg]

And you guys were equal ups. But she kept going. I've got kids you got to fix. You got to do this. Would you tell a boss, hey, look, I did everything here. Yeah.

[Brett Vesely]

That's not really snitching.

[Brady]

Well, here's what I.

[John Holmberg]

That's a little snitching.

[Brett Vesely]

I don't know.

[Brady]

You kind of answered it.

[Brett Vesely]

Speaking the way it is a little bit.

[John Holmberg]

True.

[Brett Vesely]

Lazy broad.

[Brady]

The point of the matter is, if she doesn't cover it for. Yeah, we'll find someone else who will. And then all of a sudden, those opportunities since you stepped up for the girl in the station. Yeah, look who is like, okay, this guy's doing this. You'd have to do that for a long period of time. It wasn't like ever since I opened that can of worms and I was toast.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, no. I just got the job.

[Brady]

Right.

[John Holmberg]

Like, I was now the new swing guy.

[Brady]

And look what happened after that.

[John Holmberg]

It's called reliability.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

It's not kids. No kids.

[Brady]

Bad being there. You know, this is a period in the job that is a growth period there. This will pay. I mean, doing those shifts, probably, if you can be able to, you know, if you can cover.

[John Holmberg]

But I'd still rat her out. If I had to do six weeks and I'll pass out and she bailed on it. I'd rat her out.

[Brady]

I think people make their own beds on that.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Brady]

You just let it. I mean, what you don't want to be is the person that's.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Brady]

Ratting out too early.

[Brett Vesely]

So whatever happened with her, did she make it?

[John Holmberg]

The girl?

[Brett Vesely]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

No, she complained her way right out of the business.

[Brett Vesely]

Oh, wow.

[John Holmberg]

And she ended up in Florida or something. The best.

[Brady]

Doing part time.

[John Holmberg]

What's the best ability? Availability.

[Brady]

Availability.

[John Holmberg]

And that's it. Or you got to say it better than that. But it is the best ability. Availability. But if you're available, you're going to beat people who keep saying they're not. Well, I would, I would, I would. Well, that's not true. Please. Beneficial. I would definitely ride her out and be available and just enjoy your income. That's all for you open that guest room door every day and just look at that. That bed's been made for a year. No one's been in it.

[Brett Vesely]

You know, and look at your bank account.

[John Holmberg]

And your bank account. It's so much better. So much better than going through drawers and finding bongs.

[Brady]

And there's things to do in El.

[John Holmberg]

Paso, like, yeah, sleep, please, not call your kids. It's great. Would you rather live in El Paso with no kids or be rich and live anywhere you want with kids? That's tough. Because if I had enough money, I could have someone else raise them.

[Brady]

That's true.

[John Holmberg]

Because I don't want to.

[Brady]

That's an easy option.

[Brett Vesely]

Can you put them up for adoption once you get a lot of money?

[John Holmberg]

No, it's not that easy. See, that's how we us non kid havers, see kids as the human version of El Paso. It's like having El Paso walk around your house every day. Oh, El Paso's up. I might name my kid El Paso. There goes El Paso. Holmberg. Why do you call him that? Because he sucks.

[Brett Vesely]

Be a raiding you're gonna be raising a murderer then.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, yeah. No. I would do this to me, dad.

[Brett Vesely]

You did.

[John Holmberg]

El Paso's gone crazy. I'd have him arrest in a heartbeat. It's 9:33. There you go, everybody. Solved again. The final one of 2025. Well done, Brady. You've saved so many lives this year.

[Brady]

Get tickets to the Sun Bowl. Enjoy.

[John Holmberg]

Enjoy El Paso. The only way to enjoy the best way to see El Paso is from a noose. It's your last vision, so go and die. I wouldn't want to die in El.

[Brett Vesely]

Paso flying over it.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, that is the best view of El Paso. And still you're too close. If you can see it from a plane, it's like, all right, don't get any crazy ideas. Here it is. There you go. That's your Brady. Or what would Brady do? I'm sorry. There you go. Nice job, Brady. Arizona's most powerful rock radio station. He said fully erect. It's John Holmer here from the morning sickness. And it's time to talk about TVs Doug Hopkins of my home group. And Doug Hopkins, have you ever thought to yourself, I'm gonna sell my house? Of course you have. And one reason or another, you just didn't do it. Probably because it's a hassle when you try to make a real estate deal. What if I could say, you can sell that house the day after you say the words, I want to sell my house. Doug's been at this for over 25 years, and that's why he's still on top of the Hill. TVs Doug Hopkins can handle everything. Won't move the price or you get $5,000. What do you do? Start the process right now@doug hopkins.com or grab the phone and sing Hopkins. 1-800-sale- now.

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