Elyse Myers: Grammy Noms, Glinda Margaritas, & The Sexiest Man Alive

Summary

House of Maher - Elyse Myers: Grammy Noms, Glinda Margaritas, & The Sexiest Man Alive

Podcast: House of Maher
Host(s): Ilona Maher, Olivia Maher, Adrianna “Dre Baby” Maher
Guest: Elyse Myers
Date: November 18, 2025

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Episode Overview

This lively, heartfelt episode features internet sensation, podcaster, and author Elyse Myers joining the Maher sisters for a mix of cozy storytelling, pop culture chatter, vulnerable health discussions, and plenty of laughs. The hosts cover Elyse’s rise to internet fame (especially the viral "100 tacos" story), her creative process, recent hysterectomy, women’s health, holiday debates, pop music, ‘sexiest man alive’, and Elyse’s new bestselling book. The sisterly dynamic and Elyse’s blend of sincerity and humor make this a warm, relatable listen.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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The Viral "100 Tacos" Story

[02:24 - 04:43]

• Elyse recounts what it was like to have her “100 Tacos” dating story go viral, and how she never thought it was that unusual at first:

  “I’ve had worse dates. That one was outrageous because it was so expensive... but I just feel like if you’re meeting a man online in 2011, like, that was the vibe.” (Elyse, 03:43)

• She laughs about eating soggy Taco Bell leftovers out of necessity with her roommate:

  “If you’ve ever had a taco from Taco Bell, they're bad the moment you get them... So two days later in the fridge...I just didn’t have any money. This is my food now, I’m eating Taco Bell for two days.” (Elyse, 03:28)

• Discussion about DIY versus tech animation in her storytelling content:

  “It would take me about an hour per minute of footage... And then I was like, oh my god, I could do this on a computer... and it got a lot faster after that.” (Elyse, 04:26)

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Family, Siblings, and Growing Up

[07:59 - 08:25], [47:01 - 51:20]

• Elyse discusses being the youngest with much-older brothers, growing up with lots of “boy energy,” and always longing for sisters:

  “I just want a sister... I have two sons, a husband, every dog I’ve ever had has been a boy... I feel great in the feminine energy.” (Elyse, 08:16/08:26)

• She shares touching stories about how close her brothers were to her despite a big age gap, bonding through a rough family situation:

  “All of us together, we stuck so close together, and they were like my best friends...They always wanted to protect me and baby me...but never made me feel like I wasn’t cool enough to be around them.” (Elyse, 48:01)

• With her own sons, Elyse hopes to nurture the same sibling closeness:

  “I made their best friends. I made you two and now you’re friends. It’s so cool.” (Elyse, 50:33)

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Women’s Health, Hysterectomy Journey & Medical Advocacy

[08:49 - 14:17]

• Elyse opens up about undergoing a hysterectomy just before her book tour due to severe and persistent health issues:

  “I was bleeding like 300 of the days a year... passing out... I was, like, rapidly dropping weight... Every doctor would just say, go on birth control, and I’m like, I’ve tried it, my body hates it.” (Elyse, 09:11)

• The validation of finally having a doctor listen & act:

  “The absolute best... It validated every experience I’ve ever had... This specific doctor has advocated for me so hard... To now have it out, I’m still coming to terms with, like, I’m not gonna ever have a period again. It’s really cool. I’m really excited about it.” (Elyse, 10:45-11:20)

• She candidly describes how surgery and recovery have affected her, and the issues of gender bias in reproductive healthcare:

  “A lot of doctors won’t do it if you’re young... They really struggle doing that...It’s just bizarre. It’s my body and I want to have it out, and they won’t.” (Elyse, 11:48)

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Touch Grass: Skincare for Kids & Social Media Trends

[15:11 - 19:04]

• The hosts and Elyse debate Shay Mitchell’s launch of a skincare line “for kids ages 3 and up”—and the trend of kid skincare routines:

  “My first instinct... was like, so wrong. I don’t want to teach them they should not like their skin or face... but if the ingredients are kid-safe... I think that’s really smart.” (Elyse, 16:29)

• Concerns about beauty consumerism and young girls feeling pressured:

  “It makes it feel like you need this. The marketing should have been, like, a parent and a child, or you know, more playful.” (Elyse, 18:35)

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Coffee Klatch: Grammys, Pop Culture & Music

[24:48 - 34:29]

Elyse’s Music Collabs & Social Media Creatives

• Elyse reflects on discovering new artists on TikTok and collaborating for duets:

  “I love finding songs from artists on TikTok and duetting them... The internet’s so cool where you see music you’d never see otherwise. And now I’m friends with so many I’ve just duetted on the internet, and we make music together.” (Elyse, 25:11)

• On having a ‘uniform’ for mental clarity and reducing decision fatigue:

  “It’s a uniform. I’m a cartoon character for real. I eat the same meal every day. I wear this closet.” (Elyse, 27:07)

Grammy Nominations, K-pop, and Singer Stories

• Honoring talented breakout stories like DJ’s “Golden”, and the journey behind Grammy-nominated music:

  “So that song is like, I’m done hiding, now I’m fighting to be the star I was born to be... She gets to perform it live for the very first time on national TV and everyone’s just like, why haven’t you been performing this yourself this whole time?” (Elyse, 28:16)

• The hosts’ “K-pop lore” and sharing recs, highlighting multigenerational love for the genre.

Album Reviews: Sabrina Carpenter, Live Shows, and SNL Performances

• Breakdown of Sabrina Carpenter’s Grammy-nominated album and bold musical choices:

  “She’s known for being a bit, like, promiscuous...At first I was like, whoa, what’s running down her leg, holy smokes...But now I like that.” (Olivia, 30:21)
  “Literally the best live SNL performance...she sang into a hairbrush...it was genius.” (Elyse, 31:19)

The Sexiest Man Alive & Pop Culture Reflections

• Discussing Jonathan Bailey as People Magazine’s first openly gay “Sexiest Man Alive,” and everyone’s personal picks—Adam Driver is Elyse’s:

  “Every time he does red carpet interviews, I love how much he loves his wife. There was this interview where he...said, ‘That’s my wife.’...and snubbed the interview. Oh gosh. I love a man that’s in love with his wife.” (Elyse, 35:34)

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Book Nook: Elyse as a NYT Bestselling Author

[54:05 - 64:08]

• On the creative process for her debut book, and why she included her own art, doodles, and formatting quirks to mimic her mind:

  “I wanted the reader to hear it the way I felt it and see it the way I felt it...Like, two pages of ‘Oh my god’ written increasingly larger, or text justified right or left, depending on where in my head that is...I wanted it to feel like these are the thoughts actually happening in my brain.” (Elyse, 56:40)

• Making the audiobook sound-designed, immersive, and true to her “storyteller” roots:

  “I sound-designed it too. The podcast I had...I would open with a sound-designed story. I loved that. It felt like NPR, ‘This American Life’ with the different acts. I wanted it to feel like that in the audiobook...” (Elyse, 58:37)

• Reaction to learning she was a NYT bestseller:

  “My editor just goes, ‘I’d like to tell you you’re a New York Times bestseller.’ And I just tell her to shut the fuck up. I’m like, you’re lying. You’re making fun of me...I could not receive it.” (Elyse, 60:41)

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Notable & Memorable Quotes

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• On Bad Dates & Survival:

  "If you've ever had a taco from Taco Bell, they're bad the moment you get them...in the fridge, I just didn't have any money. This is my food now." (Elyse, 03:28)

• On the Decision to Have a Hysterectomy:

  "I'm telling you that's gonna—I’ve tried it, my body hates it…[doctor says] 'You should probably get that taken out. Like, the whole thing, all of it.’” (Elyse, 09:00)

• On Music Collaboration and Social Media:

  "The internet’s so cool where you see music you’d never see otherwise...We’re friends now and we can make music together." (Elyse, 25:11)

• On Being a NYT Bestselling Author:

  "My editor just goes, 'I’d like to tell you you’re a New York Times bestseller.' And I just tell her to shut the fuck up. I’m like, you’re lying, you’re making fun of me." (Elyse, 60:41)

• On 'Comfort Avoidance' When Loving Something Deeply:

  “I reject it because my body feels all of the emotion coming over me, and it’s like, this is too much emotion. So I'm just gonna shut it down completely.” (Elyse, 41:00)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Opening banter, viral stories & introductions: 00:32–04:43
• Family, siblings & growing up: 07:59–08:26, 47:01–51:20
• Women’s health & hysterectomy experience: 08:49–14:17
• Touch Grass: Skincare for kids & internet trends: 15:11–19:04
• Pop Culture, Grammy Noms & SNL: 24:48–34:29
• Book Nook - How Elyse made her book/art: 54:05–64:08
• Discovering she’s a NYT bestseller: 59:59–61:58

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Memorable Moments

• The crew imagining a Zootopia 2/Wicked double feature and discussing the perfect “Glinda Elphaba” margarita pairing at Chili’s (00:30, 39:41)
• Elyse advocating for herself and others in navigating women’s health:

  "It’s my body and I want to have it out and they won’t…for her to offer, that was really cool." (11:48)

• Funny holiday debate in ‘Scrum Marry Kill’—‘scrumming’ Thanksgiving, ‘marrying’ Christmas, ‘killing’ Halloween: (22:24–23:14)
• The team nerding out about K-pop history, "K-pop lore," and their favorite groups over the years. (28:39–29:19)
• Insight into Elyse’s book process, including her custom font and hand-drawn art for accessibility in the e-book. (62:20–62:40)

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Conclusion

This episode gives a warm, witty, and honest look into Elyse Myers’ world—her journey from viral storyteller to bestselling author, her experiences with family and health, and her fearless (yet vulnerable) creativity. The Maher sisters provide a genial, “soft place to land” for conversations that are both substantial and silly. By touching on topics rarely discussed this openly—from hysterectomy recovery to the pressure of being “the perfect woman”—listeners get both laughs and validation.

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To Experience More:

• Read or listen: Elyse Myers’ book That’s a Great Question, I’d Love to Tell You is available now.
• Follow Elyse (@elise_meyers) on TikTok and Instagram.

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Transcript

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[Alona]

That's my wicked is Zootopia 2.

[Elise Meyers]

We should go to a double screening. We'll like. We'll go buy a ticket for Zootopia and then sneak into Wicked 2 Gorgeous.

[Olivia]

Chili's Blenda Elphaba margaritas. Pink and green margaritas. I'm there.

[Elise Meyers]

Shots of chilled kettle one.

[Olivia]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Elise Meyers]

Love it.

[Alona]

What are we doing?

[Elise Meyers]

Cry really hard, talk about our mom. It's gonna be great. It's gonna be perfect.

[Alona]

That's my perfect day.

[Elise Meyers]

This sounds great.

[Alona]

Welcome or welcome back to House of Mar A Wave original. Kick your shoes off and help yourself to whatever's in the fridge. The WI fi password is 100tos, all caps. You should know that we have a few house rules.

[Olivia]

Girls are magic.

[Alona]

Reading is hot and so are you. I am the middle sister, Alona.

[Olivia]

I am the eldest daughter, Olivia.

[Adriana]

And I'm the youngest, Adriana.

[Alona]

If you can subscribe to us on YouTube, we throw fits constantly and we want these outfits to be noticed. So go subscribe and watch us and listen to us as well. Our fourth mars sister today is a creator, author, and certified best friend to more than 11 million people on the Internet. She's a mastermind behind one of the most legendary viral stories of all time. Yes, the 100 tacos. Look it up. And chose to build a thoughtful, intentional, creative practice out of it. She hosts the smash hit podcast Funny Because It's True and is now a New York Times bestselling author with her debut book. That's a great question. I'd love to tell you She's a powerhouse of vulnerability and humor. Fresh off her book tour. Please welcome the incredible Elise Meyers.

[Elise Meyers]

That was a really impressive intro. You made me sound really good.

[Alona]

Well, I will say they like to find everything good about people and then put it in.

[Elise Meyers]

She's really kind. I should just do this every day anytime I need a confidence boost.

[Adriana]

Yeah, just like replay that little clip back every morning. That's really? Like, alarm bomb.

[Elise Meyers]

I will genuinely, like, am I gonna cry?

[Alona]

So good. I actually. 100 tacos again this morning.

[Elise Meyers]

Did you. How did you feel about it?

[Alona]

I remember seeing it years ago, and then now I watched it again and I just. What a crazy story.

[Elise Meyers]

The funny thing is, when I posted it, I really didn't. There was nothing about that where I was like, this is crazy.

[Olivia]

This is gonna do it. Yeah.

[Alona]

You didn't think that was crazy?

[Elise Meyers]

Well, I've had worse dates. That one was like. It was outrageous because it was so expensive. But I just feel like if you're meeting a man online in 2011, like, that was the vibe. It felt like. Yeah, that made sense. No. Okay. No.

[Alona]

I don't know.

[Elise Meyers]

Next question.

[Alona]

I guess maybe.

[Elise Meyers]

I don't know. I just feel like, yeah, bad dates. I'm like, they just happen.

[Olivia]

And ballpark, how much was the 100 tacos on your Walmart?

[Elise Meyers]

It was like $152.

[Alona]

Oh, God. How many of them did you think you ate?

[Elise Meyers]

All of them.

[Adriana]

You did.

[Elise Meyers]

Yeah. Not that night. No, I stole them. I took them.

[Alona]

No, I remember.

[Elise Meyers]

So with my roommate, we ate them over the course of two days. And if you've ever had a taco from Taco Bel, they're bad the moment you get them.

[Alona]

Oh, my gosh.

[Elise Meyers]

Absolutely not. You know, but they're soggy. It's a hard tattoo, but it's soggy. So two days later, in the. In the fridge. I mean, I just didn't have any money. I was like, this is my food now, apparently. So I'm eating Taco Bell for two.

[Olivia]

Days and there was no air fryers back then to try to save the day.

[Elise Meyers]

No, there was not. Great point, Great point. So it was mushy tacos or nothing.

[Adriana]

You should sell the rights to this story. Let's make a movie.

[Alona]

Yeah, let's.

[Elise Meyers]

Like a short film, something like that. I'll just make it.

[Olivia]

Yeah, you should just do that.

[Elise Meyers]

I'll just do it.

[Alona]

Keep those rights.

[Elise Meyers]

Thank you.

[Olivia]

Can we somehow we'll be the Taco Bell and plate.

[Alona]

We play with tacos now.

[Olivia]

I love it. My favorite story, though. Obviously, everyone loves 100 tacos, but is edible versus biodegradable.

[Elise Meyers]

Oh, my God.

[Olivia]

One of my all time favorites. Same thing. Like, these are all things that I saw when you made them years ago, bringing so much joy to the Internet and then revisiting them and knowing that you were coming here, I was like, God, that's good.

[Elise Meyers]

Thank you so much.

[Olivia]

You do your own little animations on.

[Elise Meyers]

Videos, I do everything. Yeah.

[Alona]

So you time out those tacos?

[Elise Meyers]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So what's funny, at that time I was editing in app, so it would take me about an hour per minute of footage because you literally, one by one, had to like add a sticker to the screen, long click on it, adjust where it goes, and if, if. Oh my God. God forbid your phone like turns off or glitches and the app always did that, you would just lose everything. And I don't know why I was so committed to doing it in app. And it just. And then I was like, oh, my God, I could do this on a computer with a mouse and a keyboard and it got a lot faster after that. But yeah, I just. I'm such a visual person and I have adhd and I figured I'm telling really long stories and the general rule was like, make a seven second video on TikTok. And so I was like, well, if I want people to listen to my stories, I'll just make them interesting to watch with the little animations and stuff. Yeah.

[Olivia]

Keep people interested.

[Elise Meyers]

Yeah, yeah. And then it kind of took off from there. People listened to the whole story and they thought it was cool. They'd never seen anything like it. And that's kind of where that all started. And I just kept doing it and it's really cool.

[Olivia]

A storyteller for the ages. Our mom, I let her know that you were coming on. She goes, oh, well, I'm one of her earliest viewers. I was like, are we now we.

[Elise Meyers]

Have to take a picture for mom.

[Alona]

Send it to her.

[Olivia]

She was so excited. She was like, no, I love the way she tells stories. I love her. I love. When she was working with a pediatric ER nurse. I was like, what are we talking about? Did you do collabs with a pediatric ER nurse?

[Elise Meyers]

Oh, oh, Megan, maybe. Yeah. Nurse. Yeah, yeah. I think she was just at my.

[Olivia]

Our mom's an ER nurse.

[Alona]

She loved that. I love that.

[Elise Meyers]

How long has she been an ER nurse of 35. Yeah, 35 years as an ER nurse. She's really relaxed all the way around. But you get the question. Yeah, yeah.

[Olivia]

Well, it's good because you can always go to her with questions, but sometimes she just like. Not that she doesn't believe you, but she sees so much that she's like, you're fine, you're fine.

[Elise Meyers]

Whatever scale for her, like, level of trauma that she experiences with injuries so large, so high.

[Olivia]

So for us, she's like, you barely need Advil.

[Elise Meyers]

Move on.

[Alona]

You know what I mean?

[Adriana]

Like, it's scary though, when she's like, oh. When she hesitates a bit and you're like, oh.

[Elise Meyers]

Oh, it's bad.

[Adriana]

This is it. This is the end. Like, am I actually having to go to the hospital?

[Elise Meyers]

Yeah.

[Alona]

I bet you do that with your kids too, though, where you give them, like, false confidence. Like, no, you're fine.

[Adriana]

It's fine.

[Elise Meyers]

You're fine with your sports. Like, how does your mom ever do help you with, like, any injuries or anything?

[Alona]

No, but she can't watch me play often. She has to pace around and even, like, wasn't too much. I. I didn't get into rugby for various reasons till high school.

[Elise Meyers]

Yeah.

[Alona]

But I think one of the reasons was because it was such a aggressive sport and she'd been at so many of my dad's games where she'd had to run on the field and help out with injuries. So she has a lot of trouble watching. But fine now.

[Elise Meyers]

Yeah.

[Alona]

Elise, this is not about me.

[Adriana]

Sorry.

[Elise Meyers]

I just like getting out of here.

[Alona]

I love talking about myself, but, gosh, you're doing a better job than we are.

[Elise Meyers]

Sorry, I'm gonna.

[Alona]

Elise, get out of here.

[Olivia]

No.

[Alona]

My dad was a rhythm player.

[Adriana]

That's cool.

[Alona]

House of Elite. House of. Our names are similar.

[Olivia]

I know you can fit right in.

[Elise Meyers]

That's why I always mispronounce your last name.

[Olivia]

But you're a vowel. We don't have an E. We have an I, an O and a. Hello.

[Alona]

What are you saying?

[Olivia]

The first names.

[Elise Meyers]

Oh, last name.

[Olivia]

Oh, last name too. Yeah, but how do you pronounce Mar?

[Elise Meyers]

Mar?

[Olivia]

Yeah. Mar rhymes. The star.

[Elise Meyers]

But you're what? Myers.

[Alona]

Okay. She has been on book tour too long. Guys, we need to get her home.

[Elise Meyers]

Get the.

[Olivia]

For real. Not my last name.

[Elise Meyers]

It's okay.

[Olivia]

Okay.

[Elise Meyers]

No.

[Olivia]

So you looked at me for two.

[Elise Meyers]

I was like, I almost just did it again. Myers. Just fine. Mar.

[Olivia]

You're the fourth Mar.

[Elise Meyers]

Sister now.

[Alona]

You are.

[Elise Meyers]

I don't have sisters. I always wanted a sister, so I have three brothers. Wow. Much older.

[Olivia]

Where are you in the order?

[Elise Meyers]

The young. Youngest.

[Olivia]

The youngest.

[Elise Meyers]

So My brothers are 7, 8, and 10 years older than me. And I'm 32, so we just. I've got. Just math.

[Olivia]

And you have sons.

[Alona]

Yeah, so.

[Elise Meyers]

And I'm good at numbers. Totally. I have two sons. I have a husband. Every dog I've ever had has been a boy. I'm like, I just want a sister.

[Olivia]

Please.

[Alona]

Just testosterone come at you from all serological.

[Elise Meyers]

And they wrestle and I'm like, I don't Want to do that?

[Olivia]

I don't want to do that. Please, please, please.

[Alona]

Oh, my gosh.

[Olivia]

All right, well, hopefully we're providing enough.

[Elise Meyers]

I feel great in the feminine energy. Is that. That's how estrogen works? That's how it works. You breathe it in and save it up. Can I bank it?

[Olivia]

Or you just kind of, you know, Bluetooth your period to each other, too?

[Alona]

That's the other way.

[Elise Meyers]

It's never going to happen again. I just got my uterus ripped out.

[Alona]

Get out.

[Elise Meyers]

Thank you. Wow.

[Alona]

Well, what was that for? Endometriosis?

[Elise Meyers]

No, I just had my. It was trying to kill me.

[Alona]

And so uteruses would be doing that to women.

[Elise Meyers]

It got to the point before I had it, it was, like, four weeks ago. So right before my tour.

[Olivia]

Are you good?

[Elise Meyers]

No. I was, like, bleeding, like, 300 of the days of the year, and I was passing out in, like, tsa When I was waiting in line, I was like, my. I was, like, rapidly dropping weight because I just could not eat because I was so sick to my stomach. And, like, my. My OB was. Because I. I've been trying to control that for a long time. And every doctor I'd go to my, like, would be like, just go on birth control. And I'm like, I'm telling you, that's gonna. I've tried it. My body hates it. Like, and it made everything worse. And so the day I went to go track my audiobook, actually, I went to an appointment that morning thinking we were gonna, like, try something else. And she goes, you should probably get. Get that taken out. Like, the whole thing, all of it. And I'm just like, excuse me. Like, I'm 32. Like, I'm done having kids. Like, I'm. That wasn't a concern or anything. It just felt very like I have. I'm not. I don't know. It just felt like something I would do, like, in 30 years, not now. And so then I go into the studio, and I have to, like, read my book, and I just felt, like, out of it all day, just kind of. It's just a weird thing to process. And also, I'm scared. I don't want to go through that surgery. And everyone kept saying how hard of the recovery it was, and so I'm like, well, I'll do it after tour. And she's like, I don't think you should wait. Like, I think that the pain of recovery will be better than what you're experiencing right now on tour. And I'm so glad I didn't Wait. But, yeah, it was, like, it's been a rough recovery, so I have, like, ice on my lap, like, on stage. And it's kind of a whole bit now at this point. But, like, truly, at the end of the day, I'm like, okay, I really need ice, though, everybody. Like, I'm not good.

[Olivia]

What was it like having a doctor to actually just be so blunt with you and be like, this is what.

[Elise Meyers]

Needs to happen the absolute best? And it felt like it validated every experience I've ever had. Like, the opposite of, you know, just, like, going to a doctor and them not believing you. But this specific doctor has, like, advocated for me so hard, she, like, delivered both my sons, and, like, she was almost gonna come to a show, and then she had an emergency, which I'm like, you go do that. Like, you go take care of someone. But, yeah, it just felt like. Yeah, I felt very validated in how hard it had been and how much I had been struggling with that. And so to now have it out, I'm, like, still coming to terms with, like, I'm not gonna ever have a period again. It's really cool. I'm really excited about it.

[Olivia]

Hey, Win.

[Elise Meyers]

I know, but you still have your cycle, which is weird. So I still have my ovaries. Is this too much information?

[Olivia]

Thank you for speaking about this, because I feel like more women who are 32 and whatever, they go through stuff like this, too, but it's never spoken about, so they feel crazy. So I think even just you talking about it means so, so much.

[Adriana]

And there's so many conditions for, like, the reproductive cycle that, like. And again, people just love to use birth control as a fix, as a band aid. Like, I'll go on birth control. And I'm like, let's go to the deeper issue. And there just isn't enough science and research.

[Elise Meyers]

And trust me, like, if it worked, it would work. And I wanted that to work. Like, I tried it really hard. And so for there to be other options, like, a lot of doctors won't do it if you're young, because they don't. They. Even if you say, like, I never want to have children or I'm done having children, they really struggle with doing that. And they. They'll use that as, like, the very, very, very last resort. So women will go in, or people will go in with uteruses and be like, hi, I would like to get it taken out. And they just won't. Just simply. And it's just a bizarre. It's my body, and I Want to have it out, and they won't. And so for her to offer, that was really cool.

[Olivia]

And you still have your ovaries?

[Elise Meyers]

Yes.

[Olivia]

Sorry. So you didn't go into. What is it, like, early menopause. Right. So you still have that?

[Elise Meyers]

Yeah, so I have. It's a total. It's called a total hysterectomy. And then they leave the ovaries, and then you still ovulate, but the egg just goes into your, like, stomach, and your stomach absorbs it. So you still have your full cycle, like, all PMS and all of that. I'll get the period, like acne, but I just won't bleed. That's crazy.

[Alona]

You need the acne still.

[Elise Meyers]

I know. Well, it's been so much, like, immediately got better. It's like, I'm on the road right now, so it's a little rough, but, like, literally two weeks after the surgery, my face just cleared up because it. My body had been in fight or flight, like, just surviving. So. So much, like, my sleep has gotten better. Like, I've not. I was, like, pulling hair out, like, in clumps. Like, oh. My body was, like, not good, dude. Like, it was not a good situation. So we're on the mend now.

[Olivia]

You're on the mend.

[Adriana]

Oh, my gosh.

[Alona]

We'll slay.

[Olivia]

No, thank you.

[Alona]

No uterus thriving. That's right.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Elise Meyers]

I'm really excited. How are your uteruses? Uteri?

[Olivia]

Pretty chill.

[Alona]

Pretty good for now. But again, we have had so many friends who, like, are going through, like, that's why I say endometriosis. I have a lot of friends who. Dad and who are going to go in for surgery, too, to, like, check things out. So it is interesting, the women's health topic, we've been healthier. Mom, though, has been through a lot of stuff like that.

[Elise Meyers]

So they do it with a robot. I just forgot to tell you.

[Alona]

Did you.

[Elise Meyers]

It's laparoscopic. And so they.

[Olivia]

So do they go into your belly button or something?

[Elise Meyers]

Yes. No. So no. Well, so there's so, like, right here.

[Olivia]

Do you see that?

[Elise Meyers]

So there's four of these little incisions. And then. And then they do it with a robot. So they go in and my OB controls it, and they do all the things, and then. And then that's it. You. And now you get better. Yeah.

[Olivia]

Oh, my God.

[Elise Meyers]

It's crazy.

[Olivia]

That's wild.

[Elise Meyers]

So fun.

[Olivia]

I hope you make a full, like, come back to yourself and health and just wellness.

[Elise Meyers]

Yeah, I'm on it.

[Olivia]

Yes. You're on it.

[Elise Meyers]

I'll do it just for you. Yeah.

[Alona]

And another book I see. Starting now.

[Elise Meyers]

Yes. Boom, boom.

[Olivia]

Oh, that's true.

[Elise Meyers]

Right now.

[Alona]

No uterus. No problem.

[Elise Meyers]

I don't know. What is the ute? How do you say yeet the ute? Yeah, yeet the ute.

[Olivia]

Okay, somebody write that down.

[Alona]

No one uses you. Your cover photo.

[Elise Meyers]

Yeah, yeet the ute.

[Alona]

Oh, my God.

[Elise Meyers]

But like a black and white, like author photo where you're like on a stool and it's like a black turtleneck and it's like serious compared to that. Like full color just then side by side.

[Alona]

I'm loving it.

[Elise Meyers]

I love it. New York Times bestseller.

[Olivia]

Instantly.

[Elise Meyers]

Instantly number one.

[Olivia]

We're gonna get to that. Hold on, though. First, let's touch some grass. All right. We like to remind ourselves what it's important in the world. Being on the Internet a lot or doing whatever your head is. So out here we like to get down, touch some grass. Okay.

[Elise Meyers]

See what's actually important to actually touch when you see.

[Alona]

That's a good frick. You're right.

[Adriana]

That's close enough.

[Alona]

Set people.

[Olivia]

Today's touch grass is brought to you by perplexity. And they say if you're old enough to remember the Backstreet Boys first single, you should be using retinol. Right? But what if you're three years old? Because entrepreneur Shay Mitchell, known for her Baze luggage line, is coming under fire after releasing a skincare line for children ages 3 and up. Have we heard about this?

[Alona]

What?

[Olivia]

First time?

[Alona]

I don't think Elise has. And as a mother, we need your take on this.

[Olivia]

So she has just launched Renee, A K Beauty inspired brand whose name comes from the Korean slang for child. And the products include a hydrating mask, a sun, an after sun mask, and an everyday face sheet mask priced between $5.99 and $6.99 per mask.

[Elise Meyers]

Well, okay, first I was. I wasn't sure what the products were, but a lot of my friends who have like daughters do spa time and stuff with their girls. And I would rather have a kid friendly mask if I'm going to put it on a. Because they want to use your products. I mean, my son wants me to put makeup on his face all the time and I make sure it's like safe for him and it's like, it's safe for my skin. But he's also 4, so there's a. I was judging it immediately, but I think if the ingredients are better for a kid's face and is more Just for play than anything else. Then I think that's really smart.

[Olivia]

That's what I was thinking. My first instinct, I think was what everybody's.

[Alona]

I was like, so wrong.

[Elise Meyers]

Like, well, I don't want to teach them that they should not like their skin or their face Exactly.

[Olivia]

Be a kid. But also why I pictured parents who are doing a face mask and their kid is like, oh, I want to do that too.

[Elise Meyers]

Totally, totally.

[Olivia]

That's what I saw it as.

[Elise Meyers]

Totally.

[Olivia]

But I feel like it's more being marketed potentially as this like everyday teacher. Kids young.

[Elise Meyers]

That's pretty wild. I believe you're also like, I don't want to teach my kids to like buy a bunch of shit. Or can I not. You can say shit.

[Olivia]

Please say worse.

[Elise Meyers]

Just scream it. Oh, great. Okay. And yeah, I just don't. I don't want to teach that. Like you, you need all the things all the time. But if it's a fun. I don't know. Do you. How do you guys feel about that?

[Adriana]

I'm kind of in the same boat of like, I remember doing face masks as a kid. Like we go into the kitchen and put like oats and yogurt and everything into a blender and put it on your face. And I'm like, again, if it's a safer thing, like obviously if it's from the kitchen, it's probably not that bad.

[Elise Meyers]

Yeah.

[Adriana]

But sometimes you put like lemon juice in there because like it's the, like I remember doing crazy shit like that.

[Alona]

It's cayenne pepper.

[Elise Meyers]

Right on my face.

[Adriana]

It really helps shrink the pores.

[Olivia]

That's what I heard.

[Elise Meyers]

Right. Extracts.

[Adriana]

So I'm like, let's do it if it's. But also I'm not spending seven bucks on a face mask, even for myself.

[Olivia]

Yeah, I don't even spend that on myself.

[Alona]

I. I like your point about it being playful and it like. Because I think my thing is marketing this as if it's need for the kids.

[Elise Meyers]

I don't like.

[Olivia]

And even.

[Alona]

Yes, even I see the young. There's. You seen those influencers where like they're like 13 year old girls and they're doing their whole face routine and they're putting on like toner and primer and I'm like, I put on moisturizer, vitamin C and like that's it.

[Elise Meyers]

Yeah.

[Alona]

Your skin also is very genetic, has a whole microbiome to it. So that's where it gets me that we're targeting so many people to come buy this stuff.

[Olivia]

Consumerism.

[Alona]

Consumer.

[Elise Meyers]

Yeah, yeah.

[Alona]

They had some interesting ads. If you look over this. Was the ad on Instagram. Oh, my God.

[Elise Meyers]

No, I don't like that.

[Alona]

So that's what we have not liked. Shouldn't it be a little bit more playful, like you and your mom?

[Elise Meyers]

Yeah.

[Olivia]

Oh, that's cute. Yeah.

[Alona]

Yeah.

[Elise Meyers]

Sorry, I don't like that.

[Adriana]

No.

[Alona]

Yeah, that's how they're marketing makes me.

[Elise Meyers]

Sad, I think especially like a young girl seeing that or like. Yeah, I don't know. It makes it feel like you need this. It should. The marketing should have been like a parent and a. And a child or like a, you know, like a. Some type of. Yeah.

[Olivia]

Bright colors. It's giving sad beige mom.

[Elise Meyers]

It's giving, like, aesthetic.

[Olivia]

Sad beige mom.

[Elise Meyers]

To me, it's giving, like, dermatology office with, like, the ads to, like, get a laser on your face, which is awesome for adults and not children.

[Olivia]

So I think the consensus is we gotta touch some grass. Unless it's just a fun girly pop or boy pop thing to do with your parent because it's safe for children.

[Elise Meyers]

I heard dirty pop, dirty.

[Olivia]

Hey, hey, hey.

[Adriana]

Perplexity. Out of curiosity, what is the oldest form of skin care? The oldest form of skin care dates back to Ancient Egypt, around 3000 BCE Egyptians. Integrated skin care is an essential part of daily life, especially among the nobility. That checks out using natural substances such as olive oil, milk, honey, and herbs. Me, in the kitchen as a kid, literally in the kitchen to cleanse and moisturize and maintain their skin.

[Olivia]

What about the lemon juice, though? Huh?

[Elise Meyers]

Not a single.

[Olivia]

No Tabasco. No Tabasco.

[Alona]

Alabaster powder, animal fat. It says copper and lead.

[Olivia]

Well, everything really comes back in fashion. People are using beef tallow now, and.

[Adriana]

I've got a lot of thoughts on beef tallow to, like, moisturize.

[Olivia]

Have you seen this?

[Elise Meyers]

I think you should talk to me about that.

[Adriana]

It's so scary, like. Cause now people are, like, whipping beef tallow for their skin, which are like, back in the day, I get it. You know, like, you had to find your fats where you could. But nowadays you're putting beef towel on your face when there's so many other options out there. Like, I also.

[Elise Meyers]

But does it work?

[Alona]

Does it work? Some people swear by it.

[Adriana]

Some people swear by it. Some people say, oh, it makes you smell like a barbecue.

[Elise Meyers]

I love that.

[Adriana]

I don't know.

[Olivia]

I love barbecue.

[Adriana]

I know someone who had a homemade sunscreen, a zinc sunscreen beef tallow. And I was like, no, that's actually what. And I was like, that's I couldn't. I talked to her, like, three times about it. I was like, you cannot use this. Like, it doesn't. It's just zinc, you know, like, you're not proven to actually, like, help do the sun protection.

[Elise Meyers]

Oh, so she's using it like. No, there's no SPF in it.

[Adriana]

The zinc is supposed to be the spf.

[Alona]

Has she tried it out?

[Elise Meyers]

Does it work?

[Olivia]

Does it work?

[Alona]

Or did she get grilled? Did she get cooked?

[Adriana]

I haven't followed up. I hope she listened to me.

[Elise Meyers]

That sounds like a baby oil situation where you're, like, tanning. That sounds like it would increase the skin.

[Adriana]

And then you're just also cooking the beef tallow on your face.

[Olivia]

I see videos of girls that use beef tallow as, like, moisturizer on their legs. And their dogs are licking their legs after.

[Alona]

Yum.

[Elise Meyers]

Like, hats it chicks out. I think my skin is, like, breaking out thinking about it. But honestly, like, I. I've tried weirder things to make my skin look good. So what's the weirdest thing? People put, like, salmon sperm.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Elise Meyers]

Face.

[Olivia]

They really do a lot of. Also snail extract.

[Alona]

What are we learning about vampire facials?

[Elise Meyers]

Oh, no.

[Alona]

They take your blood.

[Elise Meyers]

Oh, yeah.

[Alona]

Do something to it. Like, oxygenate it and then they put it back in your face.

[Elise Meyers]

Yeah. People. I've. I've seen that they also do the micro needling things where your face is literally, like, bloody because they do little. It basically, like, it makes your face heal in a way that rejuvenates the collagen in your skin.

[Olivia]

I think we need to relax. I think not having money has saved me many times because that's. I don't need that. We're good.

[Adriana]

What are we gonna find out about these procedures in 30 years?

[Alona]

Well, that's my biggest thing.

[Elise Meyers]

I feel like those kinds of procedures probably were old. Like, they probably. I mean, I can see people being like, you know what we should do? Stab your face a few times.

[Alona]

You're gonna love this.

[Elise Meyers]

This feels like ancient.

[Olivia]

And they sent you to the seaside to feel better. Okay, good.

[Elise Meyers]

And you. Where you will die. Yeah.

[Alona]

Today is special because our friends over at Death Wish Coffee are sponsoring the episode as well as a little round of a game we like to call Scrum Marry Kill. Sound familiar?

[Olivia]

So let's do this.

[Alona]

Holidays.

[Adriana]

Scrum.

[Olivia]

Merry Kill. Halloween, Thanksgiving, or Christmas. Ilona, who are you going with?

[Alona]

Right. Scrumming means you're getting down and dirty with it.

[Olivia]

Get down dirty with it. Why not?

[Alona]

I will scrum Thanksgiving because you eat that feast. But like, you don't want it all year round. Merry and Christmas. I'm killing Halloween. I just did this Halloween and dressed up. I don't need to ever do it again.

[Olivia]

That's enough for her.

[Alona]

That's enough for me.

[Olivia]

Right?

[Adriana]

I hate to say it, but I think. I think you kind of nailed it.

[Olivia]

All right, I'm gonna say this. I'm gonna kill Thanksgiving. I love Thanksgiving, but I can get those foods at Christmas. You could really make like a Thanksgiving feast at Christmas if I had to kill it. You know what I mean? And then maybe I'm gonna get down and dirty with a little sexy Halloween and Merry Christmas. Because I'm combining Thanksgiving and Christmas now. Since I killed Thanksgiving.

[Alona]

You can't do that.

[Adriana]

You're bending the rolls.

[Alona]

No, you can't do that.

[Olivia]

I just did.

[Adriana]

No, you can't be grateful during Christmas anymore. You try to be like, everybody, go around the table, say what you're grateful for at Christmas.

[Alona]

Yeah, that's crazy.

[Olivia]

They did that two nights ago.

[Alona]

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[Olivia]

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[Alona]

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[Olivia]

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[Alona]

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[Olivia]

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[Adriana]

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[Alona]

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[Olivia]

The part of the show where we chat about what's percolating in pop culture. Our coffee klatch is fueled by our friends at Death wish Coffee today.

[Adriana]

Grammy nominations. I know you've put out music, so I have a feeling you're probably inspired by this.

[Alona]

I love your song. That you do. If I'm honest. I am. When you did that.

[Elise Meyers]

Oh, Braden Bale's song.

[Alona]

I listen to it often.

[Elise Meyers]

I do too. I'm not gonna lie. You can't.

[Alona]

I really like it.

[Elise Meyers]

Thank you so much. I love finding songs that like, from artists on TikTok and then dueting them because, like, actually like, singing the harmony with them. It's so fun because people are so talented and the Internet's so cool where you can just see music you would never see otherwise and getting to collaborate with it and then it opens up future collaborations with them. I've gotten to work with so many people that I've just duetted on the Internet and it's so fun. I'm like, we're friends now and we.

[Olivia]

Can make music together. Putting talent on top of talent. Truly making magic.

[Elise Meyers]

I love it.

[Olivia]

No offense to him, but I think of your voice and your harmonizations on that song when I think of that song.

[Elise Meyers]

Thank you so much.

[Olivia]

It speaks to me.

[Elise Meyers]

We flew to Nebraska right after that happened, and we did live in person versions of it in my studio. Yeah, it was really cool. I have a Stude.

[Adriana]

She's got a student.

[Alona]

I have a student. Nebraska, the promised land.

[Olivia]

I gotta get there.

[Adriana]

She's gotta get things for a student.

[Olivia]

I think you fit in in this dress.

[Alona]

They said this is. This dress was kind of given like Little House or something.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Elise Meyers]

I honestly, it's stunning. It's so pretty. I. Where do you go shopping? Because I need more dress.

[Alona]

TJ Maxx.

[Elise Meyers]

Okay. You're. I love that you're. You have this outfit that was the button up. Was it a sleeveless or white?

[Alona]

Was it all white?

[Elise Meyers]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Alona]

T.J. maxx.

[Elise Meyers]

But isn't there like a brand in that?

[Alona]

Yes, there is.

[Elise Meyers]

Okay.

[Olivia]

That's what.

[Elise Meyers]

I want that up for you because it was so. I'm like, she looks so hot. I want that outfit so bad.

[Alona]

She doesn't look hot. I'm not A big shopper. So I love when people, like, do that for me.

[Olivia]

She's gotten into getting style.

[Alona]

Oh, my God. She's really. Are you getting styled?

[Elise Meyers]

No, I. But I. It stresses me out. Clothes, like, clothes really stress me out, like, choices. So I pick one outfit and pretty much wear it every single day. But I think if I worked with somebody to get styled, that that would take away the choices for me and I would just get to enjoy the clothes and not, like, pick them out. But I just gravitate towards things that are familiar to me. And so even if I had all these cool clothes, I just know I would still wear this outfit. And then, like, that's it.

[Adriana]

It's a uniform.

[Elise Meyers]

It is. I'm a cartoon character for real. I eat the same meal every day. I wear this closet.

[Olivia]

And it's.

[Elise Meyers]

No, it really is.

[Alona]

It's a huge white T shirt.

[Elise Meyers]

Guys know that's really what my closet looks like. 14 pairs of the same Nike shorts or the same shorts and the same shirts. I have all the same socks. It's just like, it works.

[Adriana]

It's decision fatigue.

[Elise Meyers]

Exactly. That's what it is.

[Adriana]

Go right past that.

[Elise Meyers]

I can be more creative if I don't make. If I make less decisions.

[Alona]

Getting back to singing. You just did a cover of golden as well.

[Elise Meyers]

Yeah.

[Alona]

And they're nominated for something.

[Olivia]

Their best pop duo performance and song of the year group performance at the Grammys.

[Elise Meyers]

They deserve that. It's so incredible. They deserve that. Her story of. What's her name?

[Adriana]

Dj.

[Elise Meyers]

Yeah. Such a crazy story. Do you know the story behind that song? So she basically had been. I'm gonna probably get this wrong, but I'm gonna try my hardest. She was writing for other artists. She tried to write for herself. And basically, when she was young, someone said, you're not. Am I lying now?

[Adriana]

She was under SM for, like, 12 years, and I think she kind of got shelved.

[Elise Meyers]

Yeah.

[Adriana]

And so then she started.

[Elise Meyers]

Yeah. And so that song is like, I'm done hiding. Now I'm fighting, like, be the star I was born to be. And then she gets to, like, perform it live for the very first time on national television. And everyone's just like, why haven't you been performing this yourself this whole time?

[Olivia]

So good.

[Elise Meyers]

And it's just so now when, like, now I know that her story, I listen to it so differently, and it just makes me cry. As a mom, I'm like, I have children.

[Olivia]

If that never should have happened to you. Like, it's so cool.

[Adriana]

She's so talented.

[Alona]

It's up for song of the Year. And actually we have a lot of. We know K Pop. We started listening to K pop 2011. That's our lore. So when you're going to Taco Bell. We were listening to K Pop at that time.

[Elise Meyers]

What other. Give me a couple better. Like, more K Pop suggestions.

[Alona]

Oh, my gosh. If you want OG stuff.

[Elise Meyers]

Yeah, yeah.

[Olivia]

We were like, what is it, second wave, second gen or third gen?

[Adriana]

We were.

[Olivia]

What's what? We were watching. So, like 2ne1 was our favorite group. So they were. What came before, like, blackpink. You know Blackpink.

[Elise Meyers]

I don't know any of these.

[Alona]

Ah, you would love.

[Olivia]

You'd love blackpink if you like, like hunters or whatever.

[Adriana]

Tantrics.

[Olivia]

Tantrics, sorry.

[Adriana]

Amateurs.

[Olivia]

So I watched the movie twice. I don't know why I didn't know that name. I'm sorry about that. Them. What else do we love?

[Adriana]

I was a big girls generation.

[Olivia]

Girls generation, of course.

[Adriana]

But now there's like. I think they're onto, like, the fifth wave or something.

[Olivia]

It's just the generations of music, basically.

[Adriana]

And you can just see it because everything is so themed and aesthetic that you can just see, like, oh, they're like the third big wave.

[Alona]

It's K Pop lore. And it's not.

[Adriana]

We don't have time.

[Elise Meyers]

No, it's not. It's amazing. You should do a PowerPoint presentation.

[Narrator/Announcer]

You really should.

[Olivia]

That's actually a good point.

[Adriana]

I could.

[Olivia]

Sabrina Carpenter is also up for a Grammy for Man's Best Friend.

[Elise Meyers]

Are you a fan of the song?

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Elise Meyers]

The songs on the album, I was not as much as a short and sweet. I think the country vibe kind of threw me. She's always had a bit of a country vibe. And the Dolly Parton vibes, though, in the music video. Very good. How did you feel about the album? Do you like it?

[Adriana]

I liked it.

[Olivia]

My first listened through, I was like, oh. And I feel like I do this with most people albums. I listen through it. I'm like, it all sounds the same, but I'm like, well, yeah, that's their style.

[Elise Meyers]

Yeah. They do the theme of the album. Yeah.

[Olivia]

And I was like, oh, it's a bit.

[Elise Meyers]

You know.

[Olivia]

She's known for being a bit, like, promiscuous. Like, putting her toe right over the line. Yeah. First I was like, like, tears. I was like, wow. Like, I'm no. I'm no. I'm no, like, you know, shy woman. But I was like, whoa, what's running down her leg? Like, holy smokes. No, I know. Holy smoke.

[Adriana]

And now.

[Olivia]

But I'm at a point where I'm like, I like that.

[Elise Meyers]

I love it all now. Did you see her SNL performance?

[Adriana]

Oh, amazing.

[Elise Meyers]

Oh, my God. Literally the best live, like, SNL performance from an artist I've seen in a really long time. Shaboozi was the last one that I loved a lot. Did you. Sorry, I haven't seen it. Oh, so good. Most of the time, vocals are mixed so poorly on snl, and I'm like, I don't know who you're mixing this for, because most people that are going to be listening to this are not in the rooms. And I can't sound that great in the room if it sounds like this at home. And it's very bizarre. And so her voice, because I know the mix is always rough, it was perfect. I'm like, you are actually singing, like, so cleanly. And the set was like. She sang into a hairbrush. Her microphone was a hairbrush.

[Alona]

I got so jealous of that because.

[Elise Meyers]

I was like, no, I gasped.

[Adriana]

I was, like, jealous. For me.

[Elise Meyers]

She started. Me and Jonas were sitting there like. And she. And she was like. And then she just immediately starts singing, and I just go, that's. That's so genius. Has no one ever done that?

[Olivia]

Has nobody done that before?

[Elise Meyers]

She was straight wearing her underwear on stage, and it was like, a shirt in her underwear. And I was like, girl, this is the coolest thing I've ever seen on an SNL stage. And then the second one was great, too. Sorry. Yeah, that one. That's the one she was breaking. Like, she said karate. So people were, like, fighting behind her, and then she would do this and then just, like, hit someone or break a board.

[Olivia]

It was beautifully choreographed.

[Elise Meyers]

She's so badass. Honestly, I love it.

[Olivia]

We saw the Short and Sweet tour here in la and we loved it. Ilona famously doesn't like concerts. It's. Yeah.

[Elise Meyers]

Too many people. But she liked it.

[Alona]

How do I get there? I says before, how am I going to Uber there? And how do I get out of there?

[Elise Meyers]

People?

[Alona]

There's lines. I have to wait for an Uber. It's so many people.

[Elise Meyers]

I have a feeling that you could probably find an easier way to get in and out of a concert. I don't think you would be in, like, General Admission.

[Alona]

Well, sometimes I. I just. I. The thought of that. I also. If they sing the music that seems sounds exactly like they do on the album, why am I there Most of.

[Elise Meyers]

The time they don't, though.

[Alona]

I'm a Hater.

[Elise Meyers]

You're allowed to do something. I. I get nervous in crowds. Like, I don't go to concerts, so I don't know why I'm grilling you as if I'm, like, weird. Okay, well, that tells me everything you need to know about you.

[Olivia]

True.

[Alona]

We also. So sexiest man alive was Jonathan Bailey, and he's the first openly gay sexiest man alive.

[Olivia]

People magazine. Yeah.

[Alona]

My sexiest man alive might have been the Frankenstein. Jacob Elordi.

[Olivia]

Frankenstein's creature.

[Alona]

Frankenstein's creature.

[Elise Meyers]

I haven't seen it yet.

[Olivia]

We just watched Netflix. Yeah, it was beautifully done. It was a bit gory, though I will say, it's. It is what, Gothic horror. So there was a lot of scenes. We were like, yeah, like, when he's making the monster alone. And I couldn't.

[Elise Meyers]

We were like, I'm not good with gore. No, I just close my eyes.

[Olivia]

Some sneaky gore, too. But the rest of it was so. Everything was shot and done practically. He used no, like, CGI or AI or anything. So all the sets, like, there's a giant ship in ice. All of that is practical. It was all made and you feel it watching it. It all feels so beautiful.

[Elise Meyers]

It's almost like a Broadway show when it's in that way.

[Olivia]

Beautifully done costuming. Yeah, it was.

[Elise Meyers]

I love that.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Elise Meyers]

One thing I want to see is with weathering. How do you say it?

[Olivia]

Wuthering Heights.

[Elise Meyers]

How do you say it?

[Olivia]

Wuthering Heights. Isn't that Wuthering Heights?

[Elise Meyers]

I could have swore it was withering heights my entire life until I saw the ad for it. And if there's a year that's a you, I'm like, when did that happen? Hard year. Tell me right now. Who changed it? When did the Mandela effect.

[Alona]

Who did that?

[Elise Meyers]

Yeah.

[Alona]

When was that book written?

[Elise Meyers]

Yeah, I know.

[Alona]

Years ago.

[Elise Meyers]

What do you think of the Criti.

[Olivia]

Where it's like Margot Robbie and Jacob Elordi are both people who look like they've seen an iPhone before.

[Elise Meyers]

Oh, I love that.

[Olivia]

You know what I mean?

[Elise Meyers]

Totally.

[Olivia]

In such a period piece in Frankenstein, he's got head to toe makeup.

[Elise Meyers]

Yeah. Yeah. But honestly, that is such an interesting point because it's hard to tell what it is about their face that makes them look like they've seen an iPhone. But, like, there are some people that are like, you look like a time Traveler from, like 200 years ago. You know, like, you just look like you're from that time.

[Adriana]

Yeah.

[Olivia]

What.

[Elise Meyers]

What do you think it is about someone's face?

[Adriana]

I honestly think it's how symmetrical? Oh, I think if you're very, like, have a very symmetrical face, then you look more modern. Because isn't there that thing, like, as humans, like, each generation, they kind of get more and more symmetrical and more.

[Olivia]

Attractive breeding with the most attractive people we find or something like that? I didn't say that, but I don't know, but I. So I'm having sex with.

[Adriana]

And also, like, the modern health care and stuff, you know, like, you have.

[Elise Meyers]

Better teeth these days.

[Adriana]

The better that and the veneers of it all.

[Elise Meyers]

And yet people get work done.

[Adriana]

Yeah.

[Olivia]

Injections. They get work done. I don't know, John, who's your sexiest man alive, if not Jonathan Bailey?

[Adriana]

I watched Superman this year, and that was beautiful.

[Olivia]

David Corn Sweat.

[Elise Meyers]

Mine's Adam Driver. Oh. I'm really obsessed.

[Olivia]

Really?

[Elise Meyers]

Yeah. I love that Jonas knows. He's like, you just love. You love yourself some Adam.

[Alona]

Your smoke show even knows my smoke show husband.

[Elise Meyers]

He's like.

[Olivia]

He.

[Elise Meyers]

You get. He's like, I don't get it. But, like, I love that for you. Yeah, of course. Yeah.

[Alona]

Because I wouldn't say he me loves looks like Jonas that much.

[Elise Meyers]

No, no, he doesn't.

[Alona]

Jonah's, like, heard.

[Narrator/Announcer]

Yeah.

[Olivia]

Much respect to it.

[Elise Meyers]

Yeah. No, it's just. It's so. Every time he does little red carpet interviews, I love how much he loves his wife. Like, there was, like, an interview where he. Some reporter was referring to him. To her as, like, his date or his guest. And he, like, puts his hand back and comes and grabs her. He goes, that's my wife. This is my wife. And he just kept going and snubbed the interview. Not snubbed, but, like, walked off. And I was like, oh, gosh, so good. I love a man that's in love with his wife. And he's such a hotel. He is a big boy. Big.

[Olivia]

Sorry. Who's the beautiful gentleman who plays the winter soldier in all the Marvel movies? Sebastian Stan.

[Elise Meyers]

I want to see a picture of him. I've not. I don't.

[Olivia]

Can I get a picture of this man's.

[Adriana]

Olivia loves everything Marvel.

[Elise Meyers]

Do you?

[Olivia]

Yeah, I do.

[Elise Meyers]

What's your favorite Marvel movie?

[Olivia]

Oh, I mean, I loved WandaVision. I know it's a TV show, but I loved that. Okay, those are not good pictures. What the hell?

[Elise Meyers]

It's got a big forehead, you guys.

[Olivia]

I'm leaving. This is not good. Hi, pookie. Yeah.

[Elise Meyers]

Eat the ute. That's kind of a Yeeti photo. The ute.

[Olivia]

You know what I mean?

[Elise Meyers]

That's A good cover.

[Alona]

That is it.

[Olivia]

That's a softer smile.

[Elise Meyers]

No, I see it. I see it.

[Olivia]

Oh, wait, one more thing, though. Is that wickets coming out? Are you excited for Wicked? Yes or no? Face.

[Adriana]

Oh, my God. Okay. Strong ass.

[Elise Meyers]

You know when. Okay. When you like something so much, you avoid it. Like, and other people talk about it and you're like, you don't know it. Like, I know it and I don't, but I know you do. But no one can feel the way I feel about it. It's like, I don't know what it is. I saw it at the Pantages Theater in LA when I was like 10 with the original Broadway cast. It was the first. They did one tour and then they never. I don't know where to do it again. Idina Menzel.

[Alona]

Shut up.

[Elise Meyers]

And Kristen Chenwig. Yeah, all of them. All of them.

[Olivia]

Oh, my God. Yeah. So nobody does understand it the way that you do.

[Elise Meyers]

Well, then, so I went back like a week later or however many days later where they were still there, and I saw it again. I was like, someone has to go take me again. And then I saw it again, like a year after that, but not the same cast. Like when they swapped it out. And then I got to see it actually on Broadway in New York for the first time. And I like, bawled the whole time. And I got to bring Jonas and he's like, I know it sounds weird, but I get it. I saw so much of myself in Elphaba, and Jonas was like, it's just cool because I get why 10 year old Elise would connect to that character. And it was just really special to share that intense love for this thing that I've never been able to explain with my favorite person. And he loves it, but it's. He loves me and I love it, you know, and so it was just really special. And so the first. The first movie, I took my pillow pet Wallace, and we went. And I have a photo of it. I don't have my phone with me, but I took a picture of my face after the movie was done, and I literally just was like, I looked like I got hit by a car. Like, my shirt was covered in my tears. The moment, like, the nameplate came up, Jonas, like, held my hand because he wouldn't look at me, giving me the illusion of privacy. And I'm just silently sniffling already. This is not a normal reaction to this movie. So anyways, all that to say, yeah, she's kind of excited. I'm excited for that movie coming out. I'm Very nonchalant.

[Olivia]

Super.

[Elise Meyers]

Yeah, yeah.

[Olivia]

If you're chill. Whatever. Ilona's version of that level of excitement is also coming out.

[Elise Meyers]

Zootopia 2. I love the soundtrack of Zootopia.

[Alona]

Yep. I love Zootopia.

[Olivia]

He loves everything about it.

[Alona]

I've watched it probably 10 or 15.

[Elise Meyers]

Tell me why.

[Alona]

I don't know what it is about that movie, but it. The joy it elicits in me. I think it's one of the greatest animated films.

[Elise Meyers]

I don't disagree.

[Alona]

And I'm so excited for the second one.

[Elise Meyers]

When does it come out? End of November.

[Alona]

Like Wicked.

[Olivia]

Right after Wicked.

[Alona]

That's my. Wicked is Zootopia 2.

[Elise Meyers]

We should go to a double screening. We'll like. We'll go buy a ticket first. Zootopia. And then sneak into Wicked. Two gorgeous Chili's. Chili's. We go to Chili's. The half apps. Oh, my God. Triple dippers.

[Olivia]

They're also doing drinks. Glinda Elphaba. Margaritas. Pink and green margaritas. I'm there.

[Elise Meyers]

Shots of chilled kettle. One.

[Olivia]

Yeah, yeah.

[Elise Meyers]

Love it.

[Alona]

What are we doing?

[Elise Meyers]

Cry really hard. Talk about our moms. It's going to be great. It's going to be perfect.

[Alona]

That's my perfect day.

[Elise Meyers]

But this sounds great.

[Adriana]

Alana just really needs Zootopia, too.

[Olivia]

She really needs.

[Elise Meyers]

I'm really excited for you. I love that so much. Do you struggle with that, though, when you love something so much you avoid it? Or is that me? No, no. Okay.

[Alona]

Yeah.

[Olivia]

Same.

[Alona]

She's watched Utopia. I'm watching Zootopia. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Elise Meyers]

Totally, totally, totally.

[Alona]

Do you have an example of that?

[Elise Meyers]

Yeah. In New York, I walked by the NBC building and my favorite show of all time is the Office, but also snl. Like, and all of those are in. There's like, a gift shop of, like, all these cool things I love, like Parks and Rec, all that. And the Office is something that I also kind of hold very, like, reverently in my soul. Because it got me through so many, like, really, really deep, deep depressive episodes. And I would put it on and it felt like this, like, comfort thing that would be on the background and really familiar. And so it came out of nowhere. I didn't know we were gonna be walking by it. Cause I had never gone to New York at that point. And Jonas goes, oh, my gosh, let's go in and get something from the NBC store. Like, this is so cool. And I go, no, no, no, I can't do it. And I just kept walking. And Jonas was like, that's my girl.

[Alona]

That's my girl.

[Elise Meyers]

And we'll circle back at some point. And we did eventually, but I just needed time to process it. I don't know. It's like I reject it because my body feels all of the emotion coming over me, and it's like, this is too much emotion. So I'm just gonna shut it down completely. And it's hard to let myself just immediately feel all of that. So, yeah, I can talk about that with a therapist probably at some point. Do you guys have a comfort show?

[Olivia]

Mine's new girl.

[Elise Meyers]

I love new girl. I just got to talk to Jake Johnson.

[Olivia]

Oh, get out.

[Elise Meyers]

And when I talked to him, I told him about a song I did where I wrote, like, Nick Miller. Nick Miller from the streets of Chicago. And then I did, like, a harmony looping on it. And then I made a rap out of just exactly what they were saying in that scene. And it was really, really good. And then I told him I made that. And he goes, that was you.

[Alona]

I saw that.

[Elise Meyers]

I loved it. And then he.

[Alona]

Lamorne Lamorn.

[Elise Meyers]

Yeah, yeah. Started following me right after I talked to Jake Johnson on his podcast. And then I was like, this is the best day of my life. It was really, really cool. So, yeah, he's so fun.

[Olivia]

Winnie the Bish.

[Elise Meyers]

Yeah, Winnie The Bish. Classic. CeCe D.C. winston, mess around. Winston. Mess around.

[Olivia]

That does it for our coffee klatch. Thank you to Death Wish Coffee for being the sexiest latte alive.

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[Alona]

Elise, we're so glad you're here. Growing up, our family said a great day is structured around three drinks. Coffee, tea and wine. So come spill the tea with us about how you grew up starting from birth. Go. Did your brothers influence you?

[Elise Meyers]

Oh yeah. I wanted to be just like them. They were my heroes. We. I didn't. We all had a bit of a rough go with just growing up and so they. We all clung together and they I just wanted to make them proud and I wanted to be like them. I wanted to dress like them and listen to their music and it was hard cause they were so much older than me so they all had each other so I was kind of like an only child. Also because they grew up and then left so early. So when they were all going to college, I was still in, like, middle school or something, and so I had a very different upbringing. They also have memories of my parents still being together, and I never. They. My parents weren't together when I was born, and so it was like, whoa. We, like, we talk about our childhood. I mean, every time we get together, it ends up with all of us just, like, getting a little wine drunk and, like, crying about, you know, like, you know, you experience that, too. Like, it's just a comparing notes. You know what I mean? But all of us together, we stuck so close together, and they were, like my best friends.

[Olivia]

That's beautiful.

[Elise Meyers]

It was really cool, despite the age.

[Olivia]

Gap, staying that close together.

[Elise Meyers]

Yeah, they. And the credit. Like, they always want to protect me and baby me a bit and kind of make me feel young, but they never made me feel like I wasn't cool enough to be around them or, like, they just were. So they included me in everything, and I didn't realize that other siblings didn't do that. So when they all got their license, they all separately took me out to ice cream. The first thing they wanted to do was take me out to ice cream in their car, just us alone. And they're like, that's so cool. Those memories, like, that are so specific. Like. Like, my brother Trevor, I remember, would put me on a pillow, like, one of the cushions in the couch and put me on the pillow on top and then, like, fly me around the house and give me magic carpet rides. Like. Yeah. Like. And would they. When I couldn't sleep, like, my brothers would literally sleep in my crib with me or on the floor next to me, like, they were my best friends. It was so cool.

[Olivia]

Angels.

[Elise Meyers]

Yeah.

[Olivia]

I feel like you never hear that story from brothers. It's always like, they beat me up, and they stink.

[Elise Meyers]

Yeah. I think that because it was so rough in our house, they all just collectively decided, like, we're gonna. We've got her, you know, And I've always appreciated that. My brother just moderated my show last night, so I got to introduce him, and nobody knew who it was. It's a surprise every time for each guest, and I got to, like, hype him up to the crowd and say, he's, like, an amazing father and brother and son, and most importantly, he's my brother. And so welcome, Trevor Jones. And we got to talk, and he just was looking at me the whole time. Like, there's, like, a crowd full of people just there for Me and like giving me a standing ovation when he comes out. And I'm like, Trevor's like, I can't believe this is happening. Like, you're my baby sister and this is happening. And it was. We cried so many times. Like every time he tried to tell me he was proud. He just. I was like, you can't. You have to stop. We're not gonna make it through this show.

[Olivia]

Trev.

[Elise Meyers]

Yeah. And he's so funny. And like, my sense of humor is from them and. Yeah. So I like them a lot.

[Olivia]

I love it. Do you see that dynamic with your sons?

[Elise Meyers]

Yes. And it's the most beautiful thing to watch. They're just getting to the point now where Oliver, he's two. So I have a four year old and a two year old. And my two year old can like, he's not talking yet, but he understands what's going on. And so if you say anything, he totally gets it. And so they talk to each other, but he babbles. And August, like, wants to give him hugs and kisses all the time. Like they cuddle on the couch and watch tv and it's just like, I just want that dynamic in them so bad. And I'm like, I made their best friends. I made you two. And now you're friends. And I made you guys. It's so cool. I love it so much.

[Alona]

That's awesome.

[Elise Meyers]

They're the sweetest. They also wrestle. Really? They're very strong. Toddlers are so. However strong you think they are stronger, they're stronger. Twice as strong, like truly. And August has like an incredible arm. And I'm like, you're gonna play baseball for sure one day.

[Alona]

Yeah.

[Elise Meyers]

It's so crazy.

[Olivia]

So you'll be putting him into sports.

[Elise Meyers]

If he wants to. I'm not that. I don't wanna be that parent that you've gotta pick something. You know, I felt that pressure and then when I wasn't good at it, I felt like I just had to stay in it because I had to pick something. And I get that, like wanting to make sure your kids are well rounded or have an activity. But like, I want that to be their choice because that's a lot of pressure. Honestly, if you could just make it through, you're good. Pass high school, get C's. I don't really. You did it. Yeah.

[Olivia]

If you're a good person, you're happy.

[Elise Meyers]

Yeah, I just. There was so much pressure and I. But was like such a bad student. Dude. I had really bad adhd. I was undiagnosed at the time as autistic, but now knowing, looking back, that system was not built for me in any way. And I just was made to feel really dumb. And I just. If one person would have given me permission to be like, you just have to pass. Like, my childhood and my time in school would have been a lot smoother. And so I think I want to find a way to incorporate that release of pressure in my house so that they know that it's all good if they're anything like me when they grow up.

[Olivia]

Navigating common girlhood rituals was tricky and anxiety ridden for you.

[Elise Meyers]

Yes. Yes.

[Olivia]

How did you get yourself through it enough that you are who you are today?

[Elise Meyers]

What was your method doing it? Scared. I didn't have, like, I'm not learning any of the, like, makeup and hair stuff until I was in my 30s. That's kind of when I realized I would like to know how to do all of this stuff. I think that because I grew up with brothers, I. I felt like, awkward dressing, like, girly. I don't know what girly even means, but, you know, just like doing my hair and learning makeup and all that. But I think when I didn't feel like I fit in or when I was anxious, it's a story in the book. But I had a little Magic 8 Ball keychain named Lucy, and she quite literally made so many of my decisions for me. And I would just shake her and ask her if I should go to this sleepover or if I should hang out with this person. And I would do what she told me to do. And I had her until I was like a junior in high school and she got sold in a little box of trinkets at a garage sale. And I didn't know. Devastating. Devastating. And then the iPhone came out shortly after that. And then they had the app, you know, like the Magic People app. But I didn't have any service ever or, like data. So I would write in my notes app things to ask my digital Lucy. There was a Starbucks across the street from our high school. So I'd go and connect to the WI fi and ask her questions when I needed to. But I stopped doing that because I didn't have time to do that most of the time. And so I kind of learned how to make those decisions for myself. And Lucy genuinely taught me how to be brave. That sounds really silly, but I learned that I could do things scared because this little Magic 8 ball told me to, not because I felt like I could.

[Olivia]

I'm obsessed with that accidentally breaking and keep saying, like, yes to things. You have to keep doing things.

[Alona]

You're like, son of a bitch.

[Olivia]

Fine.

[Elise Meyers]

You just become better.

[Olivia]

That's awesome.

[Elise Meyers]

Because if it was up to me, I would have missed out on so much. And, yeah, I would have just said no out of fear. And I've tried really hard in my life to not make decisions out of fear. And it was really cool that this little plastic Magic 8 ball helped me do that. Yeah.

[Olivia]

So we're gonna slow things down and get cozy. We're gonna talk about your book. You're an author. You're a best. You're New York Times bestselling author. Holy smokes. So welcome to our book nook.

[Elise Meyers]

Thank you.

[Olivia]

Let's discuss Audriana. Take it away.

[Adriana]

We're all big readers here. I think most of us. We read a lot of romance, a lot of fantasy things like that.

[Elise Meyers]

All that, too. Oh, my God.

[Adriana]

We can talk for hours. We can talk for hours.

[Elise Meyers]

I really want to. I love this.

[Alona]

I know.

[Adriana]

Well, so I read your book, and as I was talking about when you were initially, like, drafting it and beginning. When did you make the decision to incorporate your drawings and the use of font?

[Elise Meyers]

The story, his and hers in that is from the perspective of a shirt. And I had gone to New York. I was in a hotel room for a week, and I was trying to write this book and finish the manuscript. And I was like, you know, it will help being in New York for a week, I guess. Four days in, I hadn't written anything new. And I was like, why did I go to the coolest place in the world? Because all I want to do is walk around outside and not write. And so I was sitting on the ground, and there was this closet across from me that had slatted doors so you could kind of see through it. And one of my coats was hanging in it. And I just thought, man, this jacket probably is so disappointed in me that I came all this way. I packed it, I brought it, I hung it up. And I'm not even doing the thing I came to do, which I personify objects all the time. I feel very strongly about inanimate objects. I'm not sure why. And. And so I wrote something separate, but I wrote this, like, started writing this story of, like. I bet this jacket's from the perspective of the jacket, like, how it feels about me not writing. And then I was like, oh, my God. I remembered an important jacket, flannels, that someone had given me in my life. And I was like, I'm gonna Write that story from the flannels perspective. And then I got to a part in that story where it said she. She looked sad. Way more sad than happy. And I was gonna make a little diagram of, like, a pie chart that was, like, 75% sad, 25% happy. And I did in my journal when I was writing it, and I was like, oh, my God. Like, this book isn't gonna be straightforward narrative stories. Like, it's gonna have poems in it, and I'm gonna put a. I'm gonna put a little doodle. So in the original manuscript, I had a little pie chart that was simple and. And didn't need to be there. But it was funny that the author would be like, here you go. Also a visual representation of more sad than happy. And then it kind of snowballed from there. Like, I wanted the reader to hear it the way I felt it and, like, see it the way I felt it. So, like, two pages of. Oh, my God. Written increasingly getting larger or, like, justifying text to the right or to the center or to the left, depending on where in my head that voice is happening. Like, is it dialogue? Am I thinking it? Is it. Like, you have inner thoughts, but then, like, the inner. Inner thought? Like, is it all the way to the. Is it smashed to the right and super small? I just wanted it to feel like these are the thoughts that are physically happening in my brain. And you're reading it and feeling that as well. But it's exactly the way I want it. Like, the paperweight in the book feels exactly the way I want it to feel. I drew the end pages. Every single thing of that book I have created. Can I show you the.

[Olivia]

Come get a little. Pass that over up, girl.

[Elise Meyers]

No, like the. There's even. So.

[Alona]

Nice. See, you did look down the barrel.

[Olivia]

Look down the barrel.

[Alona]

Yeah. That's very nice.

[Elise Meyers]

On the back. I love.

[Alona]

Gorgeous.

[Elise Meyers]

So these are. These are little Easter eggs. Like, the second half of the book. These are items from the stories in the second half, and then that from the first half of the book. This is my desk at work. There's a. Oh, my God. The illustration of a Fleshlight is probably my favorite.

[Alona]

I love that.

[Elise Meyers]

Great. Yeah. Like, just everything about this was from my brain, and it was really, really important to me that it looked exactly like that. And I think that I had that vision when I sold it. And I fought really hard to the point where I was crying in the. Pitching it, because I knew how much work it was gonna be. But it was so important to me. And so partnering with a bunch of people that were like, I don't get it, but I get it and I'll do it and make it happen. Yeah, it was really cool.

[Olivia]

I'm an audiobook girly, and I love a good one. And even before I opened it, I was like, she better be reading this.

[Narrator/Announcer]

Of course.

[Olivia]

This better be her voice. She's known for storytelling. And then it was her. And I was like, thank God I.

[Elise Meyers]

Sound designed it, too.

[Olivia]

You too? That's the thing. And then I heard, like, a door creaking. I was like, it's a full production.

[Elise Meyers]

Yep.

[Olivia]

We are in business, baby.

[Elise Meyers]

So that's exciting. I did that the week before my hysterectomy. I literally. And then also after a little bit, and I just went full out. It was so fun. I loved that process so much because the podcast I had for a bit funny, because it's true. I would open that with a three to five minute story that was completely sound designed, and I really loved that. It felt like npr, kind of like this American Life with the different acts. And I wanted it to feel like that in the audiobook because. Because you're missing so much when you aren't getting to see the visuals of it that I wanted you to get that same experience. So the sounds really, to me, felt like it filled it out a lot.

[Adriana]

Since I've only read it, I think it would be, like a very different experience to listen to. Yeah, you gotta do both.

[Elise Meyers]

Oh, do they have to do both? Of course. Yeah. Yeah.

[Olivia]

You heard it here first.

[Elise Meyers]

It's just. It's fun. They're honestly two completely different experiences. I think that I'm so interested to see what people receive from the book that have only heard it. And I'd be curious to ask them questions about the stories, like, what did you get from that? Because I wonder if they sound the same or they read the same. You know what I mean?

[Olivia]

They feel the same.

[Elise Meyers]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Olivia]

We'll get on it. We'll do some field research.

[Elise Meyers]

Do it, do it, do it.

[Olivia]

It's on the ground right here.

[Elise Meyers]

Thank you. Thank you.

[Olivia]

What was it like finding out you are a New York Times bestselling author?

[Elise Meyers]

Oh, my God.

[Olivia]

This happened in the past couple days?

[Elise Meyers]

Yes. What was it like? So I definitely wasn't expecting that call. I had a call with a moderator from St. Louis, and there wasn't another meeting on the schedule. And we're wrapping up, and my manager, Linnea, just shoves a computer in my face. And I was thinking, this was a Wednesday And I knew that you had to wait till Thursdays and also, like, a week later. So in my mind, this was not something that was gonna be happening if I found out until a week and a day later. And so they give me the laptop, and there's a bunch of people. And immediately my first thought is, I'm in trouble. Like, I've done something wrong. So I started immediately running through, like, what did I say on stage, like, last night?

[Olivia]

Dam.

[Elise Meyers]

No. I was really scared. As long as I couldn't be good news, I have to be in trouble. That's where my mind goes. And my editor just goes, I'd like to tell you that you're a New York Times bestseller. And I just tell her to shut the fuck up. I'm like, you're lying. And then I was like, you're making fun of me. That's like, I could not receive it. I just didn't understand. And I just kept saying, what do you mean? And everyone did the Jennifer Lawrence meme from Hot Ones. What do you mean? What do you mean? What do you mean? And I don't know why that was. Like, I couldn't stop saying, what do you mean? Because I just didn't understand what she was saying. And. And finally it sunk in, and I was like, can anyone take this away from me? Because it. I'm like, wow, we have some work to do. Like, Elise, we need more therapy. I think we need more. And, yeah, it just felt like this entire dream I've had since I was little. How is it happening right now? Like, I felt so many things. And I was also deliriously tired, and I couldn't stop crying. Cause I was so tired, and I was, like, crying. Cause I was crying, and I was, like, laughing. I just looked really like. It was a lot. It was a lot. And then I got to call Jonas right after and tell him, and he. Yeah, it was just a really, really, really special moment. And it still feels. Anytime someone says it, I'm like, say it again. What?

[Olivia]

Sorry.

[Elise Meyers]

Say, what was that?

[Alona]

Louder.

[Olivia]

What was that?

[Alona]

Yeah.

[Elise Meyers]

People make, like, friendship bracelets at my tours, and they give them to me. And a lot of them have said, like, new York Times bestseller.

[Olivia]

Like, I'm keeping this forever. And it debuted at number four.

[Elise Meyers]

Yeah.

[Olivia]

So does that happen before the New York Times bestseller announcement, or does that kind of come hand in hand?

[Elise Meyers]

They're the same. It was number four for all nonfiction.

[Olivia]

Which is insane to debut at number four. I just want to say that, too.

[Elise Meyers]

And then I was number six on all print and ebook. So for. Yeah, and yeah, the ebook was really important to me too, because normally, like, when you release a book for an E reader, you're not going to get format. You're going to get the words, and that's pretty much it. And it's hard because you have to make it infinitely scalable. So for, like, like, accessibility, the text has to be size, like, you know, made it larger or smaller. And I knew that so much of my art is art. So it's like a scan of something. So you can't. With the journal entries. Like, you can't change the size of that. So I made my own font of my own handwriting for E readers so that you could scale it and make it any size you wanted and you would still be getting my handwriting and it would feel like a journal entry. So like, even those things, like, I went through the ebook before my hysterectomy and I gave notes on every single page. And when I put it in dark mode, what does it look like? I don't want you to, you know, if you're on a plane reading it, I don't want you to have a bad experience with this book. And it was like. I mean, when I say I had. I was so intentional with, like, every single thing about this book. I was. It was such a labor of love for the last two years. And so for it to be received this well is like, man, it made every one of those, like, really late nights so worth it. And every time I had to leave my kids to go to New York to, like, do things for the book, it was like, I'm so grateful that it is received the way I wanted it to be. It's cool.

[Adriana]

Well, you should be very proud of yourself.

[Olivia]

That is a work. Congratulations.

[Elise Meyers]

Thank you so much. Congratulations.

[Olivia]

So everyone make sure you go and read, buy, read, listen to the new book. That's a great question. I'd love to tell you. Obviously you write, but do you read? What are you reading?

[Elise Meyers]

Oh, my gosh. I read so much. I love it. I am reading. I just read Beaky Borison's first time know now back to you again. And also her good spirits.

[Olivia]

Okay. Yep.

[Elise Meyers]

Did you guys. Do you like Beaky Borson?

[Olivia]

I read the Christmas book.

[Elise Meyers]

Yeah. The Good Spirits.

[Olivia]

The. No, the other one. Love Light Farms.

[Alona]

Oh.

[Elise Meyers]

Oh, my God. Yeah, the whole. Oh, my God. That's my favorite, like, series.

[Olivia]

It was cute.

[Elise Meyers]

Number four is my absolute favorite.

[Olivia]

Lock in on the others. I think I only read number one.

[Elise Meyers]

Oh, my God, it gets so much Better. Oh, my God, there's three more.

[Olivia]

Good thing Christmas is coming.

[Elise Meyers]

You have to read all of them. What do you. What do you guys like with reading?

[Adriana]

I'm still reading Babel. Brittany Broski was on the podcast and I was talking about it, so I.

[Olivia]

Was like, okay, I'll read it.

[Adriana]

It's a 24 hour audiobook and it's talking about like, fantasy. It is fantasy, but it's all about translation and there's a lot of British colonialism. It's a hefty book.

[Elise Meyers]

Like Tower of Babel.

[Adriana]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, essentially. And so I'm having a fun time with it, but it is a lot to chew on.

[Olivia]

Stoney.

[Alona]

I'm listening to Housemaid right now. Cause the movie's coming out.

[Elise Meyers]

The Hammer and Wait Housemate, Thriller. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Alona]

Freedom McFadden.

[Elise Meyers]

I've read it. Yeah. Where are you at it?

[Alona]

I'm middle of it. Which I'm like, you gonna continue to work for this lady?

[Elise Meyers]

I understand.

[Alona]

Yeah. Strap kooky stuff. So that's good because the movie's also coming out. But then I saw casted Amanda Seyfried as Nina.

[Elise Meyers]

Oh, my God.

[Alona]

Which I'm like, she might be too hot to play that character.

[Elise Meyers]

I feel like, though, they'll. They'll. I think that they can doctor it up.

[Alona]

Okay. And Sydney Sweeney as the Millie. There's a follow.

[Olivia]

There's like book two and three of it as well.

[Elise Meyers]

I'm not gonna say anything because I won't spoil it, but okay. Wow.

[Alona]

I'm excited.

[Olivia]

You and I can talk. I finished it.

[Elise Meyers]

Okay, great.

[Olivia]

I'm like, yeah, you pick. You're picking up what I'm putting down.

[Elise Meyers]

A lot of picking up what you're.

[Olivia]

Lifting, smelling what I'm stepping in. All right, okay. Thank you so. Thank you so much for coming over to our house. You can find Amelise's book. That's a great question. I'd love to tell you in stores and online now. And you can follow her leasemeyers on TikTok and leasemeyers on Instagram. Yes.

[Adriana]

Thank you so much for coming over to the house of Mar A Wave original.

[Alona]

Be sure to watch and subscribe on YouTube and listen wherever you get your podcasts.

[Olivia]

Plus follow the show on social media Houseofmar for clips and behind the scenes content. Don't forget your coat, guys. We'll see you next time. Thanks for coming over. Thank you so much. This was the best.

[Narrator/Announcer]

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[Adriana]

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[Elise Meyers]

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