Escaping the Khia Asylum with Victoria Paris

Summary

House of Maher – “Escaping the Khia Asylum with Victoria Paris”

Podcast Host: Wave
Guest: Victoria Paris
Date: May 5, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode of House of Maher brings creator and entrepreneur Victoria Paris into conversation with host Wave and co-hosts, including Olympic rugby player Ilona Maher and her sisters Olivia and Adrianna. The episode is a freewheeling, humorous deep-dive into internet culture, personal evolution, queer identity, influencer realities, design, running, and friendship. The Maher crew and Victoria Paris exchange hot takes, embarrassing stories, and wisdom—keeping the banter rapid-fire and unfiltered.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

On Queer Identity and Community (01:01, 42:01)

• Victoria reflects on the evolution of her audience as she came out online, sharing, “Like a lot of them were like, ‘We've been knowing you're gay,’ so maybe I just found out about it, and they were waiting. A lot of them were like, ‘We were waiting’” (01:01, 43:32).
• Coming out for Victoria was “so quick and so casual. Like, ‘Hey guys, love women.’ Literally. I posted a video being like, I've never kissed a girl and then I had a girlfriend. I was like, you ask and you shall receive.” (42:08)
• She discusses how being public about her queer identity shifted her following: “Now that me and Nico are so serious and so publicly dating, I think [my audience] has definitely gotten gayer.” (43:43)

Influencer Life, Privacy & Boundaries (02:22, 28:46, 29:40)

• Victoria recounts her public journey from leveraging TikTok to sell thrifted clothes and pay rent, to brand deals and front-row seats at Fashion Week.
• On boundaries: She admits to learning the hard way about privacy after being burglarized:
  “I used to be so not private... And I think now in living with Nico and building a life together, I realize it’s not just about me. The burglary just kind of was like the nail in the coffin where I was like, I need to prioritize my privacy.” (28:56)
• She shares amusing, cringey oversharing—posting her live location, door code, and security camera placement:
  “I was like, the address is… and literally the week prior to post, a picture outside the front of my house.” (29:49)

Mold Mayhem & Moving Stories (04:05)

• Victoria shares the saga of a dream midcentury house gone wrong due to mysterious illnesses—later discovered to be caused by hidden mold (“We brought in a mold dog and he just kind of lit up the whole house…I was like, burn it all down.”) (04:05-04:41)
• The hosts riff on the absurdity: “You’re the mold dog at that point...I am the case study.” (05:46)
• Victoria has become known for moving often—out of necessity but also creative expression as an interior designer at heart.

Creativity, Design, and Color Philosophy (06:05, 24:43)

• Victoria’s design obsession started in childhood; she wanted to attend school for design but was discouraged (“That’s not a real job.”). Now, she channels that drive into her spaces and her jewelry brand, 10 4.
• On color: “I do like a pop of color. I feel like as I’m getting older… I kind of leaned into more richer, more neutral colors. But I will never be like a beige white house person.” (07:42)
• She describes her “pastel self and a primary color self,” expressing the dissonance between her vibrant online persona and her chill real-life self: “You get the most amplified version of me [online] because that's what gets clicks and likes and views. There is a bit of a disconnect between what people see online and who I really am.” (24:43)

Internet Lore: What is “Khia Asylum”? (10:33)

• The sisters ask Victoria to break down the rising ‘Khia Asylum’ meme, which originated in TikTok and Twitter slang for mid-tier celebrities or artists unable to “graduate” to the biggest venues.
• “Everyone’s saying BB Rexha. Zara Larson just made it out. Charli XCX is back in, but she escaped for a bit with Brat.” (12:41)
• The segment is an energetic tour de force of inside jokes and millennial/gen Z internet culture.

Running, Athletics, and Body Image (46:02)

• Victoria describes her athletic background and running journey: “I played a lot of sports growing up… softfall and basketball mostly… When I got to college, I was not playing any sports… and I really made a shift. I just found the gym and became obsessed with it.”
• She ran her first marathon for MS research: “I signed up for the New York Marathon when I was 21 to raise money for MS.”
• On marathoning and community: “Now, I’ve gotten back into running because it’s such a thing online, and so many brands are activating around it. I actually love it now, because it's not as serious.” (46:37)
• Times: “My most recent [marathon] was 4:24. I want to break 4 hours… but I’m not going to change my whole life just to run.” (47:24)

Building and Balancing Business Ventures (27:07)

• The story of 10 4 Jewelry: “I had just traveled through Belgium and a good friend took me to this atelier where I met Jill, my co-owner. I thought she was the cashier because she was so beautiful… [but] she was the owner. We did a collab and flipped that into our own brand.” (27:07)
• Life chaos (moving, privacy, etc.) has taken her away from the brand, but she’s eager to return attention to it.

Handling Hate & The Female Creator Economy (35:04)

• “I went on a blocking spree like four years ago. So, like, it's peaceful. People shit on me for so long for doing that, but genuinely, I feel so good and so safe on my page. I can post anything and really not deal with [hate].”
• On why people hate female creators: “This is one of the only female-dominated, lucrative fields… I’d be mad too if I was them.” (35:12-36:43)

Money, Culture, and Sex Work Legislation (37:08)

• Discussion about a proposed Florida “syntax”—an effective 50% tax on OnlyFans creators.
• Victoria breaks down misconceptions: Most OnlyFans creators don’t make big money; a tiny elite does.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “If anyone’s gonna be cringy [in a relationship], it’s me. Can’t have two of us.” – Host & Victoria Paris on boundaries of online sharing. (03:16)
• Describing the “mold dog” and house hunt, Victoria: “He just kind of lit up the whole house… burn it all down.” (04:05)
• “Tripping with TED—coin it!” – On her transformative TED trip to Costa Rica (44:46)
• “She called her couch bisexual, so that's like a really nice compliment… I know many a bisexual woman with this couch.” (08:03)
• “I have never watched a movie really in the past five years. Nico's been training me…If I ask her a question, she's like, ‘You have to rewind and rewatch.’” – On relationships and attention span (34:08)
• “My work hasn't [gotten gayer]. Pride Month was quiet last year. Not a single deal.” (01:13, 43:52)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Timestamps | |-------------------------------------|----------------| | Coming Out + Audience Evolution | 01:01; 42:01 | | Mold, Moving, and Design | 04:05–07:57 | | Creativity & Pastel/Primary Persona | 24:43–25:38 | | Khia Asylum & Pop Culture | 10:33–14:12 | | Running Journey | 46:02–49:09 | | Privacy, Burglary, and Online Life | 28:46–32:22 | | Handling Hate | 35:04–37:07 | | OnlyFans “Syntax” | 37:08–38:23 | | Friendship & Book Recs | 53:37–55:48 | | Try Hard + Rapid Fire | 49:40–53:33 |

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Additional Memorable Moments & Cultural References

• Audience Growth: Victoria reflects on her journey to over a million TikTok followers in six months—capitalizing on Depop selling during the first pandemic year. (22:07–23:05)
• Book & TV Talk: The hosts share smutty romance recommendations. Victoria plugs Perfume and Pain: “It’s about a lesbian writer who lives in Silver Lake… She struggles with substance addiction, but also, she loves perfume… It feels like it could be your friend.” (55:26)
• Humor in Hardship: Victoria jokes about stealing as a teen and returns from Bloomingdale's grifting to “not paying for bags at self-checkout now. That's where I draw the line.” (52:19–53:04)

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Tone & Atmosphere

Lively, confessional, and warmly irreverent. The energy is that of a late-night sleepover crossed with group therapy—intimate vulnerability traded for sharp one-liners and inside jokes. The hosts’ sibling dynamic and Victoria's self-aware, rapid-fire delivery make the conversation poignant and deeply funny, perfectly balancing the real messiness and joys of young adult life online.

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Closing Thoughts

Victoria Paris leaves listeners with hard-earned wisdom: protect your boundaries, nurture creativity even when discouraged, be as loud or as quiet as you want online—and don’t be afraid to shed what no longer serves you, whether it’s a moldy house, a beige interior, or negative internet comments.

Transcript

[Victoria Paris]

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[Host 1]

wave.

[Host 2]

Has your audience gotten gayer?

[Victoria Paris]

Like a lot of them were like, we've been knowing you're gay, so like, maybe I just found out about it. And like, they were waiting. A lot of them were like, we were waiting. So I was like, oh, okay. So maybe they've been gay. And I don't know now that like, me and Nico are so serious and like, so publicly dating, I think it maybe has definitely gotten gayer. My work hasn't. Pride Month was quiet last year. Not a single deal.

[Host 3]

You guys, like, you were just in Costa Rica. Was that a brand trip?

[Victoria Paris]

I went with ted, TED Talk. And it was like a climate conference kind of thing where we like, went to like a women's shelter there and the mangroves and learned about climate change and how it was affecting Costa Rica. It was super fun, super cool. We learned so much. And then I went to the Four Seasons afterwards and they hosted me and it was really fun.

[Host 3]

Welcome or welcome back to House of Mar A Wave Original.

[Host 2]

Please kick off your shoes and help

[Host 3]

yourself to whatever in the fridge. I'm having some tea myself. Today's WI fi password is mcm wlw all caps. You should know that we have a few house rules. Girls are magic.

[Host 1]

Reading is hot and so are you. And make sure to subscribe to us on YouTube and watch us while you clean or while you treadmill.

[Host 3]

Vibe. Yeah, just come vibe with us. Come on. Come sit on the carpet with us. You'll Love it.

[Host 1]

Our fourth March sister today went from making 50 TikToks a day to pay her rent to sitting front row at Fashion Week. She's a firm believer that only one person in a relationship can be chronically online and she happily takes that title. She's a business savvy creator and the co founder of 10 4. Jewelry. Algorithms fear her and she once strategically beat up a $5,000 Gucci bag on camera.

[Host 3]

Welcome to the family.

[Host 1]

Victoria Paris.

[Victoria Paris]

So happy to be here. Thanks for bringing that up. You're so welcome.

[Host 1]

You're welco.

[Victoria Paris]

I really wanted to rehash that one.

[Host 3]

What gave you that idea?

[Victoria Paris]

I was really bored and Nico was out of town and always bad things happen when she's out of town. I get bad ideas that I would normally run by her and she'd be like, I don't think you should do that. And I was left alone without adult superglasses.

[Host 2]

It worked out.

[Victoria Paris]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

In your interim, that's what you're known for now, I guess.

[Victoria Paris]

Put it in the elevator.

[Host 1]

I do agree that really only one person in a relationship should be online. Like if anyone's gonna be cringy, it's me.

[Victoria Paris]

Exactly.

[Host 1]

Can't have two of us.

[Victoria Paris]

Right.

[Host 2]

I need them to be little, just like unknown about it, you know, like

[Victoria Paris]

mysterious or start mysterious and then segue into being online. Like, Nico was offline when we started dating completely. And now all of a sudden, why? She got almost a quarter million on TikTok. Yeah, like, where'd this come from? Hold on.

[Host 3]

Yeah, but you're kind of supporting that guiding hand holding.

[Victoria Paris]

I'm agent Momager. Kris Jenner. No, but she's really like leading the fight on that. I feel like it's totally different from my career enough that I'm like, this is cool that you have your own avenue. Just don't fuck with my.

[Host 1]

Don't not beat up a Gucci bag. That's my thing.

[Victoria Paris]

No, literally I'm like, stay in the garage.

[Host 3]

Stay in the garage. Where you belong. Where girlfriends belong.

[Victoria Paris]

Yeah, literally.

[Host 3]

You literally just moved today, right? Moving.

[Victoria Paris]

Right.

[Host 3]

Let's talk about that.

[Victoria Paris]

Oh my gosh. Okay, so I've been in this house, that like gorgeous mid century house. We're in love with it. We're like, yes, we finally found our house we could be in for like three or four years. Settle down, boom, week one, we wake up, we're sick. Like we're both sick. We're experiencing weird symptoms and it just progresses for like the duration of the time we're there. And we're like, hmm, it might be mold. We got like a visual assessment done and they already like lit up the usual spots for mold. We got that remediated and like nothing changed. And we were like, okay, there must be something else going on. So we brought in a mold dog and he just kind of lit up the whole house. I was like, right. No, everything. Just burn it all down.

[Host 1]

Is that where he just, like, smells and sits? Was he just sitting all over that place?

[Victoria Paris]

Everywhere? I was like. And I didn't believe it.

[Host 1]

And he sat again.

[Victoria Paris]

Yeah. And again.

[Host 1]

Ooh, he's sitting again.

[Victoria Paris]

Yep, Yep. And I was like, this is too much sitting. Like, they're. They're no way.

[Host 3]

Sitting outside the door. Before he even came in, he was like, I've seen enough. I've smelt enough.

[Victoria Paris]

Sniffed and turned around. I was like, okay. But he was sitting in front of glass doors, which I was like, oh. So I was like, what? Okay, it's in the floors. Yeah. I was like, right? Where is it? I didn't really believe it, or I did believe it. I put it online. And then people were, like, sending me, like, contradicting opinions, like, whatever. And so we kind of just sat with it, and we're like, let's retest our urine and see. We also had, like, a new puppy coming. Oh, my God. And we retested her urine, and the mold jumped in her urine. And 40%. We were like, okay, get the tiny puppy out of the house. The dog's in training right now. And we were like, we have two weeks to find a place. We need to be out now.

[Host 2]

And I didn't know you could find mold in your urine.

[Victoria Paris]

Yeah, that's new. Like, in your urine you can get a blood test for, too. So Nico just got a blood test. We can really understand, like, how bad it is. But, yeah, like, that's when you have, like, high exposure. It shows up in your urine.

[Host 1]

You're the.

[Host 2]

You're the mold dog at that point.

[Victoria Paris]

Literally, I'm like, I am the case study.

[Host 2]

She's.

[Victoria Paris]

I am it.

[Host 3]

I mean, you've kind of become known

[Victoria Paris]

for moving at this point, I guess.

[Host 3]

Like, I'm obviously not really by choice, but, like, I. I mean, I kind of love it because I get to see what you do with every new space you're living in. You're an unbelievable designer. Where does that come from?

[Victoria Paris]

Oh, my gosh. I don't know. Like, even when I was a kid, I'd like to, like, push my bed around in the room. And, like, I'd ask my parents, like, can we paint the walls? And they'd be like, no. Like, can we. Can we put up curtains? And they're like, no. And they're like, when you go to your college dorm, you're allowed to decorate there. And I was like, oh, okay, I'm ready.

[Host 2]

Just 18 years.

[Victoria Paris]

Okay. Right. Well, let me clock in real quick. But I always wanted to go to school for design, and my parents were like, that's not a real job. And I was like, oh, but no, I really. I really enjoy it and I love being able to do it now in my career. I love that.

[Host 1]

Yeah, that's very different from me. My room was painted, like when we first moved in, a baby pink. And my mom hung up a fairy mural on my wall. I had that till I was out the house.

[Host 3]

Yeah, right.

[Host 1]

And it was only recently she painted it herself. And I was like, hey, ye. Yeah, I am more of like, this works.

[Victoria Paris]

This works. What color was it?

[Host 1]

It was baby pink.

[Victoria Paris]

No, what color is it now?

[Host 3]

Oh, she made it like a red. She made it like this actually, with

[Victoria Paris]

the fairy mirror style.

[Host 2]

She.

[Host 1]

She took it off. I was like, that's kind of the character. I had a wall that had some metal magnets you could put magnets on. Oh, yeah, it was from.

[Host 3]

It was like the early 2000s. A paint that had magnets in it. So you could paint that and then you paint a color over it. So magnets stuck to the wall. Oh, just maybe it's lead. Maybe just. No, that's perfect. That's cool.

[Host 1]

I'll hire you though, when I get a place. Cuz I. I have no idea.

[Host 3]

Okay, Your design career starts now.

[Victoria Paris]

We shouldn't. Cause have you guys seen those green cabinets? I did. Like, it's been a process. Each apartment has gotten better. Each house has gotten better.

[Host 2]

What an error.

[Victoria Paris]

Yeah, exactly. I needed to do that.

[Host 3]

And like Ilona said she doesn't care though, so you can do whatever.

[Host 1]

I'd be like, yeah, it's nice. I do love color, which you love as well. Cause beige and kind of like one tone is really in. Whereas you love a splash of something.

[Victoria Paris]

I do like a pop of color. I feel like as I getting older, I'm like, damn. Staring at that orange couch really gave me a migraine. I was like, that was a decision. Right. So I have like, kind of leaned into more like richer, more neutral colors. But I will never be like a beige white house person, you know?

[Host 3]

Thoughts on our living room here?

[Victoria Paris]

Perfect. Yeah. Like, came in and complimented the couch immediately.

[Host 1]

Right, right.

[Victoria Paris]

You called it bisexual, but this is the bisexual couch.

[Host 3]

She called her couch bisexual, so that's

[Host 1]

like a really nice compliment.

[Victoria Paris]

Right.

[Host 2]

But it's also on the nose. I know many a bisexual woman with this couch.

[Victoria Paris]

Oh, yeah. It wasn't a read. Like, it was an observation.

[Host 3]

It was factual community. I think it's important that we congratulate you on g giving births.

[Victoria Paris]

Thank you. You're welcome. Lentil, 3 pounds, 4 ounces. Newborn baby boy.

[Host 1]

What type of dog?

[Victoria Paris]

Chihuahua.

[Host 1]

So how big Will?

[Victoria Paris]

That's it.

[Host 1]

That's okay.

[Victoria Paris]

He's fully grown. He's six months. So he's really not a baby.

[Host 2]

Is he a yapper?

[Victoria Paris]

No, he's silent and nobody believes it. And, like, my friend watched the dog for the full day and she, like, called me. She's like, is something wrong? Like, he is not reacting. And I'm like, no, that's just the way he is. And even the trainer, like, we get videos every single day that he's like, the trainer. I hear every other dog but him. I have to, like, really rile him up and, like, try to fight him.

[Host 3]

Yeah. You're whipping him around.

[Victoria Paris]

He goes like this in a circle with, like, a toy. And I'm like, yeah.

[Host 3]

Did you always want a dog?

[Victoria Paris]

No.

[Host 1]

And next segment.

[Victoria Paris]

I love dogs, but I love my life and I love traveling and I love being selfish. You know, like, even like. Like buying a house or being in a fixed space or having a partner. They're all, like, things that involve, like, responsibility. I was like, I can't leave on a moment's not moments notice with a dog. You.

[Host 2]

Is it because you have Nico that you're like, you can.

[Victoria Paris]

You can take care of that. We just been together like six months ago, and I'm like, yay. Child care, Living care.

[Host 3]

Yeah. I had an ex one time that was like, well, we should get a dog. And I was like, our lives are too unpredictable. Like, we travel too much. Like, I have no time for that in my life. They're like, well, we have friends. We just have them watch them. I'm like, I would. I can't. Just like, they're like, well, your family would do soon. I'm like, whoa, no and no. Like, what do you. Where's your brain at?

[Host 1]

That's not for a rate.

[Host 3]

Like, yeah, yeah, we get invoice, baby. Are you kidding?

[Victoria Paris]

I've had that, though. That's also why I was like that, because I had a lot of friends who like, crowdsource the child care, you know, a bit for their animals. And I was like, I would never want to be that position where I have to ask somebody who, one, I don't feel like is responsible enough for this three pound little angel creature.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Victoria Paris]

And two, I feel like that's too much. Like, I don't like Asking for help. Right? You know, like, I'm like, please, I need to struggle.

[Host 3]

Let's unpack this. Let's get you on the couch.

[Victoria Paris]

I'll go right in the middle.

[Host 3]

So let's get into the group chat.

[Host 2]

Perfect.

[Host 3]

Yeah. So our group chat is just what's going on with us and online. We're talking about girl news, and this is a term that I didn't understand either. So Adrana's the one that we go to when we want to know things about pop culture politics. What's going on?

[Host 2]

So Olivia was on the phone with me, and she was like, hey, so what's all this about Kia Asylum?

[Host 3]

Do you know what the Kia I

[Victoria Paris]

know the Kia Asylum is.

[Host 2]

Did you find out, like, three, four months ago?

[Victoria Paris]

Yes.

[Host 3]

So Ilona doesn't yet know. Can you explain our Kia?

[Victoria Paris]

No, no, no, no, no. It came from somebody named. I was watching an Ivy Walk video where she explains. Yeah.

[Host 1]

A lot of her side.

[Host 3]

First of all, God speaks right through her.

[Victoria Paris]

Literally struck by lightning. Our generation's Lena Dunham. Yeah, yeah. Ivy Walk. But there's a video of her basically explaining it on this podcast, just like, ripping a vape, and the vape smoke is going into the thing, and she's explaining the original girl that it was about, and. Oh, my God. Can we please insert the clip? Could you explain Kia a celebrity that's sort of floundering. What does she do? Making out?

[Host 1]

Nothing else is that.

[Host 3]

No, that's somebody else. This is the girl with, like, the

[Host 2]

baby bangs who is just, like, growing up, I was told, guys will fuck anything. Guys will fuck anything.

[Victoria Paris]

You love her.

[Host 3]

And now here I am, and that's just not the case.

[Victoria Paris]

She's like, and nobody will fuck me. We're all like, oh, my God. Treaties.

[Host 3]

I mean, well, what do you know? Kia said to me, I know it

[Host 2]

as the artists who get stuck in the Kia Forum. And so they call.

[Host 3]

Which is the music venue next to Sofi.

[Host 2]

Sofi Stadium, like, 18,000 people. And so that means that they haven't been able to break through to, like, a bigger venue size. That they are stuck at this, like, B, C tier level of fame, Maybe just B. And so that they're stuck in the Asylum of Kia. They cannot graduate from the Kia Forum into Sofi.

[Host 1]

Tell me this, isn't that Kia spelled K I, A?

[Victoria Paris]

That's a thing where it comes from this girl whose name is spelled like that but pronounced differently. And then everybody's like, she's so irrelevant or something. They don't even say her name. Right. That it's become like Kia or something.

[Host 3]

She's a pop star.

[Victoria Paris]

No, she's like a random person on the Internet, I'm pretty sure. See, that's what I thought it was too. But there's a deeper cut, Internet lore behind this.

[Host 2]

I need to learn my history.

[Victoria Paris]

I need my like 22 year old friend to explain it to us because that's where I get it all from.

[Host 2]

We need someone younger in this.

[Host 3]

They're like, can we phone a friend?

[Victoria Paris]

We need to get her in on this.

[Host 3]

Because it's like when you think about like the type of pop star that it is, like, who would you think

[Victoria Paris]

of as BB Rexha? Everyone's saying Bebe Rexa Rexha. Zara Larson just made it out. Charli XCX is back in, but she escaped for a bit with Brat. But yeah, there's a few. Like, what? Halsey? Is Halsey in there? She might be.

[Host 1]

I'd say she's in there.

[Host 3]

I'd say she's in the Kia. Yeah.

[Host 1]

20,000, maybe she could.

[Victoria Paris]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

I think people also sometimes have a hard time to grasp like 20,000 is still a lot of seats.

[Victoria Paris]

For sure.

[Host 2]

You know when they're like, they've got

[Host 1]

out of the key Asylum.

[Host 2]

Like, no, the.

[Host 3]

They haven't.

[Victoria Paris]

Yeah, they're already. They're making money, honey. They're good in the asylum.

[Host 3]

I just.

[Victoria Paris]

B.B.

[Host 3]

rexha. I famously thought that her name for the longest time was Bebe Reha. And that's.

[Host 1]

She one time seriously said that to me and was like, oh my God, that new song by Bebe Reha. I was like, what were you saying?

[Victoria Paris]

That was my vocal stim. When I was like dating my ex boyfriend all the time, he'd look at me and be like, Bebe Rexa. And one time we were like hooking up and I was like, bebe Rexha. No, I'm so uncomfortable. And it was like my vocal stim for a year. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, her name is just so good.

[Host 1]

She do the same thing. She was like, yeah. And then that Chappelle Roan. So I was like, who run that back? Chappelle Rowan. Chappelle Rowan Chapel. Rowan. I was like, that's crazy work.

[Victoria Paris]

She's like in the keosylum right now as of this week.

[Host 1]

Oh, yeah, right.

[Victoria Paris]

Yeah, yeah. I would see the best of us though.

[Host 2]

I think she could sell out so far.

[Victoria Paris]

If that's the point of reference. Yes. She's out of the Kia.

[Host 3]

Yeah. Right.

[Victoria Paris]

If we're talking like pop culture Standing. She's in the Kia.

[Host 3]

Yeah, right, right, right, right, right. What else is happening in girl? And this is not girl news, but United is launching lie flat economy seats that allow you to take up a full row. Did your mom send you that?

[Victoria Paris]

My mom texted me. And why is that even? I love this too.

[Host 3]

She loved that plane. She loves that plane.

[Victoria Paris]

I can't believe you just brought that up. Like, we're literally having conversations that I've been having for this past week. The group chat. Literally, it's the group chat.

[Host 2]

Would you do it or are you just.

[Victoria Paris]

I just cannot believe that airlines will do anything but, like, make their seats nicer. Yeah, we'll just tack on, like, a little footrest and put it up and call it, like, the Sky Lounge.

[Host 3]

The Sky Lounge, Right. Are you gonna try it at least to show the people?

[Victoria Paris]

No. Period.

[Host 3]

Good for you.

[Victoria Paris]

I'm like. I'm gonna still, like, like, be buying business class seats, and my brother's gonna get mad at me for it. Like, I'm like, actually, I should try it for a video. It'd be good for a video.

[Host 3]

But that's what I'm thinking. I think it's good for video. Who knows? You might love it.

[Victoria Paris]

Me and the Sky Lounge Tax write off.

[Host 3]

Make a video about it. Boom, boom.

[Victoria Paris]

I'm deducting that.

[Host 3]

Yeah, yeah. As you should. Are you in any group chats?

[Victoria Paris]

I am in so many group chats, none of which I have made and I've been thrown into.

[Host 3]

Okay.

[Victoria Paris]

And none of which have a title, too, which I'm like, the hell?

[Host 1]

Are you, like, really chatting in them? Are you kind of like the silent one who goes like, hello, and just, like, says something?

[Victoria Paris]

I'm really chatting in it. If it's active, there's active plans happening. But if we're just, like, catching up and keying throughout, like, the month, I'm, like, silent.

[Host 3]

Okay, so this is, like, more groups with, like, friends from this stage of your life. Do you have any with, like, family or, like, childhood friends?

[Victoria Paris]

No, I don't have any with family or childhood friends. Really? My dad, like, just a few days ago, put me, my brother, and my dad in a group message titled My Kids.

[Host 1]

That's.

[Victoria Paris]

So dad hasn't existed till a few weeks ago. And it's just a picture of us. And he's like, I keep this in my wallet. I'm like, aw, that's really sweet.

[Host 3]

And then he sends a thumbs up emoji.

[Victoria Paris]

Literally. Then he doesn't respond because he knows how to use it.

[Host 2]

We have one with our extended family. Like, just our aunt, uncle, and our oma. Our grandmother. And it's just called travel updates. And it's literally us being landed in la. Landed in, like, Atlanta.

[Host 3]

I could have Lovelanders.

[Victoria Paris]

That's cute. And little maintenance. I know.

[Host 2]

Our grandmother goes, I cannot keep track of you ladies.

[Host 3]

You are so confused always.

[Victoria Paris]

How many miles?

[Host 1]

Well, she has to light a candle whenever we fly.

[Host 3]

She just has a saint candle that she loves, so she has to light it when we fly to, like, protect us. But we, like, travel a lot now, so, like, we don't say where we're going until we're there. Because, like, she can't be wasting these candles. My mom can't keep going to the Netherlands to buy them for her.

[Victoria Paris]

She's ripping through them. She's ripping through these candles.

[Host 2]

She even told me she stopped. She's like, I'm not doing it for domestic flights anymore.

[Victoria Paris]

She set boundaries.

[Host 2]

And I was like, hurt Alma.

[Host 3]

Appreciate you, though.

[Host 1]

She keeps it going the whole night.

[Victoria Paris]

She keeps.

[Host 1]

Puts it in the sink.

[Victoria Paris]

Oh, it's in the sink. Okay. I was gonna say it's like a pirate laser.

[Host 2]

The plastic is like deformed.

[Victoria Paris]

It's so hot. I feel safe.

[Host 3]

Is there a saint of air travel? It's gotta be this one now. Saint Emma that she. That she lights it for.

[Victoria Paris]

I went to Sunday school for like 10 years. And I'm like, I don't know.

[Host 3]

Catholic?

[Victoria Paris]

Yeah.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

What was your confirmation name?

[Victoria Paris]

I never made it to that point. That was the 10 year mark, I feel like, because I was like 16. You know, you're about to do it or whatever. Yeah.

[Host 1]

Something. Yeah.

[Victoria Paris]

And it was like the year before, I was like, I don't think can do this anymore for you.

[Host 1]

We all did it. She had to tell our father. What did you make?

[Host 2]

What did you deal you. So I got bribed. I could go to the Cumberland Farms afterwards and get a for real milkshake afterwards. So kind of gained on the pounds, but for God.

[Victoria Paris]

For God.

[Host 3]

For God.

[Victoria Paris]

For God.

[Host 2]

But dad was like, if you don't complain, we could go to what we call.

[Victoria Paris]

It's called Cumby's.

[Host 2]

You could go to Cumbees afterwards.

[Victoria Paris]

I was like, you're like, that's a good deal.

[Host 2]

Yeah, I would love to.

[Host 3]

Like, I'm a businesswoman.

[Victoria Paris]

And she was right.

[Host 2]

Cause we did Catholic school growing up and like, we were kind of like liberal. Like, we didn't hear like all the bad kind of teachings. It was very, like, lovely. Great values. But then once you get to the private ccd.

[Victoria Paris]

Oh, yeah, that's what I did. Ccd. That's a Northeastern thing. And nobody knew about that. When I moved to North Carolina, I did it in New Jersey. Ccd. And then. Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Host 2]

But that's when I started getting told, like, women are made out of Adam's rib and like, you're meant to serve men and all this stuff.

[Host 3]

And I was like, oh, is the milkshake worth it?

[Victoria Paris]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

And I really wanted that extra middle name, so.

[Victoria Paris]

Oh, yeah, true. It does.

[Host 3]

What would you have picked as a middle name should you have gotten confirmed?

[Victoria Paris]

Like, guys. Well, we're even. The options. This is just.

[Host 2]

There's any saint.

[Host 3]

Any saint.

[Host 1]

I was Adrian.

[Victoria Paris]

Okay, what do we have?

[Host 2]

Alexandra.

[Victoria Paris]

Oh, period.

[Host 3]

Maria.

[Victoria Paris]

Hi, Maria.

[Host 3]

Basic white girl name.

[Host 2]

You know her also. Her middle name is also Elizabeth too.

[Victoria Paris]

Okay.

[Host 3]

Yeah, yeah.

[Victoria Paris]

Okay.

[Host 1]

Maybe it's St. Anthony Victoria.

[Victoria Paris]

I wouldn't mind that. Anthony Bourdain. That's your saint.

[Host 3]

I really. With this vibe.

[Victoria Paris]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

This is probably blasphemous.

[Host 3]

Oh, I know, right?

[Victoria Paris]

Sorry. 100%.

[Host 3]

Whatever.

[Host 1]

I'm intrigued. Whether or not anyone listening will understand what we just talked about. Jumping. I don't even understand it fully, but now.

[Host 3]

Okay, again.

[Host 1]

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[Host 3]

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[Victoria Paris]

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[Host 2]

There's so much tea to spill.

[Host 3]

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[Host 2]

So let's get right on into it. You two have known each other digitally beforehand, correct?

[Victoria Paris]

A bit.

[Host 2]

A bit.

[Victoria Paris]

Briefly.

[Host 3]

Briefly.

[Host 1]

Probably longer here.

[Victoria Paris]

I just got my tick tock DM our four year friendiversary.

[Host 1]

Did you really?

[Victoria Paris]

Oh my God. I started doing that and I'm like, I've been online for this long.

[Host 1]

That's so beautiful. Happy, happy day to us.

[Victoria Paris]

I should have got you something.

[Host 3]

Oh my God.

[Host 1]

But we've been following you since like the New York day.

[Victoria Paris]

Oh my God.

[Host 2]

I had just right.

[Victoria Paris]

I had just graduated college.

[Host 2]

I was in Vermont at like a shoe store, working, seeing your tiktoks. And I was like, I gotta get to New York.

[Victoria Paris]

I gotta get on that plane, girl.

[Host 2]

Actually it was the Amtrak.

[Host 3]

I gotta get on the AM 8 hour Amtrak.

[Victoria Paris]

Victoria's pulling me, dude.

[Host 2]

Someone get me into Schenectady right now

[Victoria Paris]

that the train break down.

[Host 3]

That's crazy. I mean. Okay, so talk us through a bit of your journey. When did were you like, fuck it, let's do it. Let's post these Vids.

[Host 2]

Let's get this money.

[Victoria Paris]

Let's get on the zoom right now.

[Host 3]

Get on the zoom right now.

[Victoria Paris]

I was a senior in college, actually, and the pandemic had just hit. I was working for a fintech startup and that was supposed to be, like, my job after college. And that went under and I was like, no prospects. Like, nothing to do. I'm about to graduate. I need to pay this rent. And I was like, flipping clothes on depop on the side. And at that time, depop had gotten pretty oversaturated. This is like. Like, when did I graduate college? Like, I think, like, 2021. 2020. And Depop had gotten really oversaturated. It was hard to stand out and have your items, like, hit the Explore page and get big or whatever. And I had taken like a year or two off social media at that point in my life. I had always had, like, a smaller social media, like a thousand followers my whole life, that kind of vibe. And I was like, I gotta get back on this, Depop. Like, I gotta sell these clothes, I gotta sell these purses. And I was like, what if I start making TikToks to promote my depop? And I started making videos and it just kind of took off. I got like a million follow in six months. My first brand deal paid off my student loans, and I was like, okay, I don't need no more Depop right now. We're back to Depop again.

[Host 1]

But you do it more for, like,

[Host 3]

the love of the game, it seems like, Right? Like, you sell your items for $25.

[Victoria Paris]

$5.

[Host 1]

Literally $5.

[Victoria Paris]

Everything's $5.

[Host 3]

That's so sweet. Like, you have those new, like, Adidas running shoes on there, right? And those things are like 500 a pop.

[Victoria Paris]

People were like, oh, so you don't like them? And I was like, no, no, no, no. They sent me three pairs.

[Host 3]

Yeah, right, right.

[Victoria Paris]

We can. I want you to have one.

[Host 3]

That's so cool. And then, as I want to do mention, that you're in an Adidas campaign.

[Victoria Paris]

Yes.

[Host 3]

That's so sick. For running. So two Adidas, basically. Athletes. We got it.

[Host 1]

Famous athletes, girl.

[Victoria Paris]

They're fun to work with. They're a really cool client, honestly.

[Host 1]

I must say I enjoy them. I've been to. We went to their headquarters in Germany.

[Victoria Paris]

Jealous. Really cool. Did you see the archive? Yeah, we did.

[Host 1]

They made it.

[Host 3]

Put on the gloves and everything. What do you want to see from the archives?

[Victoria Paris]

I just want to see the archives. I've heard so much about it. Also, their fashion is really cool. They have a really good catalog of their vintage pieces and vintage, like, bags. They did really cool vintage bags. I was invited to the archive, like, two years ago or something, and I had to miss it. And I'm, like, kicking myself since I'm like, I want to go back.

[Host 3]

Just keep sticking it into existence right here.

[Victoria Paris]

Yeah.

[Host 3]

Just look at the camera, and no manifestation is real.

[Victoria Paris]

Send me to the Adidas archive.

[Host 3]

We just had Billie Jean King on, and we saw pictures of her, the shoe. She was the first athlete to have a custom shoe, and it looked sick. I was like, I'd wear that to this day. Timeless. They should relaunch for real.

[Victoria Paris]

But trying to buy vintage shoes, though, is, like, so bad. Cause they, like, they break so easily, and I'm like, you can remake these. Yeah, Dry rot. Dry rot.

[Host 3]

Yeah. The rubber's breaking down and all that.

[Host 1]

Because they need to be, like, worn or something. Is that right? To keep it going, really?

[Victoria Paris]

Which.

[Host 2]

That. Science doesn't make sense to me.

[Victoria Paris]

Right. That's capitalism. Right.

[Host 2]

They just don't make things like they used to.

[Victoria Paris]

Exactly.

[Host 3]

You talk a lot about having, like, a pastel self and a primary color self when it comes to your kind of online Persona. Can you talk through us?

[Victoria Paris]

This was, like, a new thing that I learned when I went to my friends, my friend Alexi's podcast we run together. She's an amazing runner, and she has such an interesting perspective on life. And she's like, do you feel like you have a pastel side and a primary color side or a vibrant side? And I was like, wow. Actually, yes. I feel like in person, like, when I. When I am myself, like, behind. When the cameras are off and behind closed doors, I'm pretty chill. And on the more reserved side, like, when we go home, like, when I'm in my house, like, I'm silent. Like, it's silent. I like quiet. Like, I'm not, like, that loud and boisterous and whatever. And then when I'm online, you get, like, the most amplified version of me because that's what gets, like, clicks and likes and views. So I feel like there is a bit of a disconnect between what people see online and who I really am. But I hope that they can kind of extrapolate that there's more than what you see in 30 seconds. Right, right.

[Host 3]

No, that makes sense. And do people come up to you in person? And are they expecting that kind of,

[Victoria Paris]

like, honestly, it's gotten so different over the years. Like, now I was just, like, in the airport in Costa Rica. And this girl came up to me and we just sat, had a chill conversation for like dead ass 15 minutes and I was like, this would have never been like this like years ago. I feel like when I first started and people were like, so like, whoa. Yeah. And now I feel like my followers have kind of chilled out and they like see me as like a normal person and like somebody they would just run into on the street and like chill like high and bye.

[Host 3]

Right, right. They've kind of grown with you.

[Victoria Paris]

Yeah, that's probably.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Victoria Paris]

And also they're like, I'm sick of this bitch. I've seen her for five years.

[Host 1]

Like, hi, how's the new place?

[Host 3]

Yeah, literally, like I have to hear online and now here she goes on the street, I have to hear her here? I don't think so.

[Victoria Paris]

Let me talk about the mold again.

[Host 1]

Are you an extrovert? Like, I, I feel like I just

[Host 2]

am an extrovert many times.

[Host 1]

Are you one of those who does like both?

[Victoria Paris]

I have no problem being extroverted and loud, but I do think I kind of like with my friends, like we ride the line of like chilling and then being loud or you know.

[Host 3]

Yeah. I'd recently heard the term like social extrovert.

[Victoria Paris]

Yes.

[Host 3]

No, social introvert. Oh, that you're like, you know, you can be social, you're very good at being social. But like you do like gather energy from being introverted.

[Host 2]

Sometimes I think we're making shit up.

[Host 3]

Okay, deadass.

[Host 2]

Like, or do we.

[Victoria Paris]

So sorry. Right? No more of that.

[Host 2]

I don't know if we need all these labels.

[Host 3]

Right.

[Host 1]

I was told that you, when you started 104 was because you just kind of being an extrovert, chatting to your friend or meeting your friend in Belgium and then this idea sprung up or how did 104 come to be?

[Victoria Paris]

Basically I'd always loved wearing jewelry and a lot of jewelry my whole life. And for me, the biggest, scariest thing for me with producing something was not knowing how to like, I didn't go to school for product design or like how to even make jewelry. Like that's a totally different thing than making clothing, which I had a lot of friends who had made clothing. So I was kind of like wearing jewelry, traveling at this time in my life. I had just traveled through Belgium and a good friend of mine took me to this atelier where I met Jill, my co owner in her. In her brand shop. And I thought she was the cashier because she was so beautiful. And I was like, that is some internalized shit. I need to work on. And she was so young. She was like 24 or 25 at the time and like, looked like a supermodel. And I was like, no way is this the owner. Like, this work is so amazing. And I was like, it like she was trying to talk to me and I'm like, I'm confused on this dynamic right now. Are you the owner of this brand or what? And basically, I like, she. I wore some of her jewelry all summer and I had like such a good time wearing them and it held up quality wise so nicely. And I made a video where people were asking, like, would you make your own jewelry? Would you start your own jewelry brand? And I'm like, I would love to, but I just don't know how. And then Jill reached out to me, like, personally being like, I would love to do a collab with you. I've never done a collab, but I think this would be great. And I was like, oh, damn. Okay, we should do that. And then it was from there on out, we did the collab, did really great. And then we flipped that into our own brand. And yeah, and she just.

[Host 3]

She still has her brand. But you also have 10, four together.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 3]

That's so cool. Any future plans? Anything coming up exciting? You can tease.

[Victoria Paris]

We just launched our initial necklaces and we're also doing pendants separately. We're gonna do more pendants now, but yeah, like, we need to like, kick back into it. Cause I feel like for me, I've been mo and everything and I'm like, all the stuff with life has been crazy this year and I'm like, I want to like, lean back into the brand and just promoting the out of it, right?

[Host 3]

Absolutely. I mean, so you are moving. You've moved in the past because of a burglary, which is so scary. How do you kind of treat, like your privacy now? Because you do live a very online life.

[Victoria Paris]

I used to be, like, so not private and so not caring and like, did not think anything of it. Like everything in real time right now. I don't care if you can see the location. I don't care if you know where I am. And I think like now in like living with Nico and building a life together, I realize it's not just about me. Like, if somebody up at the door, like, she is in danger too. Not like somebody showing up at the door would be like putting me in danger, but if somebody nefarious showed up at the door, it would be her also. So that kind of shifted my perspective completely. I Also think that was a hurdle of us moving in together. I think she was worried about that as well, of, like, my carelessness online. And, like, the. The burglary just kind of was like the nail in the coffin where I was like, I need to shift my privacy or, like, prioritize my privacy.

[Host 3]

Right.

[Victoria Paris]

Damn.

[Host 1]

What happened?

[Victoria Paris]

I was being so dumb and I was like, posting. I was in Europe, and I'm like, I'm in Europe for these dates.

[Host 1]

Your door code is literally.

[Victoria Paris]

I'm like, the address is. And literally the week prior to post, a picture outside the front of my house. And I was living in Silver Lake. And if you know Silver Lake, like, you could see, like, La Mill in the distance.

[Host 2]

Oh, okay.

[Victoria Paris]

And like, my car that I had posted many videos of was parked in front of the house. So, like, any idiot could do. Right? And also I had made a video a month prior of where all my security cameras were.

[Host 3]

So I remember that. I was like. I was like, she's telling. Because you did a deal, like, with the. The camera company or something. And I was like, but now they know exactly where the cameras are.

[Victoria Paris]

Yeah. It was not smart. So it was like the perfect storm of, like, being an idiot. And I was just kind of like, that's what I'm saying. Like, I was so careless and I literally did not care. And it was all my fault. But also, like, you know, he shouldn't have robbed me.

[Host 1]

No, that's so violating.

[Host 3]

Did they find the guy?

[Victoria Paris]

We know who the guy is. I made videos about the guy. His name's. I don't even want to talk about him anymore.

[Host 1]

Don't say it then.

[Victoria Paris]

He's still out there. We know who he is. He's still out there. He's, like, robbed so many people in la and, like, it's just ridiculous.

[Host 2]

Did you get your stuff back?

[Victoria Paris]

I got one purse back from wasteland and I don't know where anything else is.

[Host 1]

So that's, like, then saying. I just learned about. It's like, don't post defining things. Like, when I post in my place is like, just be smart about even the outside and whatnot.

[Host 3]

Yeah, yeah.

[Victoria Paris]

It's really hard because, like, for example, like, a few houses back, I lived in a pretty famous home that, like, was a design house briefly. And, like, 25,000 people had toured the property. I did not know that until I moved in. And I told the landlord I was moving in because I, like, was scared. I got burglarized. I want something more private. It was more private of property. And she Was like for sure. And then I like literally screenshotted the wallpaper that was in the living room. Reverse Google Image searched it and you could find the address of the house. And I didn't know this till I moved in. So like there is very like if you have custom wallpaper and the designer posted the wallpaper. There's. There's so little things.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Victoria Paris]

Interesting. At a certain point or if you're in an apartment complex, people know the general layout of those units.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Victoria Paris]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

I don't even post my laundry room because I'm like, you just need one motherfucker that knows how long.

[Victoria Paris]

One hundred. A hundred percent. They will find you. If somebody really wants to find you, they'll find you.

[Host 3]

Yeah, right. And that's horrific.

[Victoria Paris]

Unless you're just posting like this.

[Host 1]

I sent this to Olivia, but I saw this story where there was like trying to find out kind of. Of dark. But like this girl had been kidnapped and they were trying to find her. She was on the dark web.

[Host 3]

And they literally.

[Host 1]

There's bricks in some of the videos and they were able to find it by these specific bricks. Cuz I guess people who know bricks can like buy the different areas and they're able to pinpoint it down to this place and they're able to find this girl because of these bricks in this video.

[Victoria Paris]

Insane.

[Host 1]

So really you got to. It's just white walls.

[Host 3]

Yeah. Right.

[Victoria Paris]

Better yet, green screen it.

[Host 3]

Better yet, stop being creative at all.

[Victoria Paris]

You know, just give up and stop posting.

[Host 3]

Yeah. Just give up.

[Victoria Paris]

Have you seen the Don't. Don't Fuck with Cats or whatever that documentary on.

[Host 1]

I have seen that. What is it?

[Victoria Paris]

And that's similar where they like all the Internet was after this guy who was like doing horrible.

[Host 1]

He was a psychopath.

[Victoria Paris]

And they could tell by the outlets like what country he was in and all this stuff.

[Host 1]

Wow. He was fucking with cats and cat. People love a cat. And they were. And he was posting it online and they were able to catch him with all this.

[Host 2]

It was.

[Host 1]

It's crazy.

[Host 2]

That's crazy.

[Victoria Paris]

You gotta watch it.

[Host 3]

I probably won't. That's scary.

[Host 1]

We're just talking about how Netflix has a lot of. Really? They love a documentary that is spooky.

[Victoria Paris]

Right, right, right There I went down the rabbit hole of how Netflix has changed the way movies are filmed completely. Like there's pre Netflix lighting, like lighting on sets and post Netflix lighting. And I'm like, I didn't even realize.

[Host 3]

She says that about Amazon shows. That like she was watching a show and her friend came and went Amazon prime show.

[Host 2]

We were watching Daisy Jones and the six. And he goes, yeah, Prime.

[Host 1]

Really?

[Victoria Paris]

You can just block it from, like, the color grading.

[Host 1]

Are you somebody who likes to watch YouTube? Like, Olivia loves watching YouTube where she learns things. Well, she sent me a video also about, like, buildings that have no character. She's like, it was about, like, five plus ones, which are apartment buildings that are popping up everywhere. They have, like, a store underneath it. And then it's like, five floors of apartment buildings and how they all have,

[Host 3]

like, those ugly, uniform apartment buildings you see all over the place. They're called five plus ones.

[Victoria Paris]

Hate them.

[Host 3]

Hate them.

[Victoria Paris]

That was a big thing I ran into in Australia was. I was like, what is the architectural significance here? Because it's, like, such a new. Like, like, also they've, like, dealt with so many, like, natural disasters and stuff. Certain areas. I'm like, what is the architecture here? There was, like, Malibu home next to, like, a Queensland home, which looks like a Louisiana house. And I'm like, I'm confused. But I have not watched a YouTube video essay, and I don't watch.

[Host 3]

I'll send you a couple. Don't even worry.

[Victoria Paris]

Okay, thank you. They're good.

[Host 3]

I love you, too.

[Victoria Paris]

I need to get my attention span back up. So, like, I never watched a movie, really, in the past, like, five years. And Nico's been training me to, like,

[Host 1]

sit there, like, leave your phone.

[Victoria Paris]

Not even so she'll let me go on my phone. And then if I ask her a question, she's like, you have to rewind and rewatch.

[Host 1]

That's like Pavlov's Dog. Okay, now you get a treat.

[Victoria Paris]

So now I watch horror movies. Oh, my God.

[Host 1]

Oh, my God.

[Host 3]

Bring in the treats. Then we are fucked. Okay, what kind of movies is she showing you?

[Victoria Paris]

She had me watch all of Harry

[Host 1]

Potter, and that's a lot. I feel like a Zootopia would be good for you.

[Victoria Paris]

Zootopia?

[Host 2]

Start with a kids movie.

[Victoria Paris]

What else did we watch? We watched. Gosh, we. We've jumped around.

[Host 1]

Not Lord of the Rings? No.

[Victoria Paris]

Hell, no. I draw the line there. It's too much. I forgot we've been taking a break again, too, because I feel like when she gets home from work, the last thing she wants to do is sit down again and, like, sit in front of. Right. You know?

[Host 3]

Right.

[Host 1]

People just love to hate on influencers. And I imagine the amount of hate you've got. I mean, I get hate all the time, too. How do you combat that? Do you see it in Your comments still or.

[Victoria Paris]

I mean, I went on a blocking spree like four years ago. So like, it's peaceful since like I don't deal with anything really because we've like ve everybody I feel like at this point and like people like shit on me for so long or made fun of me for doing that. But like, genuinely, I feel so good and so safe on my page and like post anything and really not deal with it. Even the purse thing. Like, people thought it was funny until it got to the side of the Internet who didn't think it was funny. Right. But I think like, I mean, people hate women. Even women hate women. And like, that's what makes the most sense for me is like why these things exist. I think like, if you're gonna be a hater, be a hater in your own time, on your own place, wherever, hold the Internet. You need to get that out. There's something wrong with you, you know, so like. But like, yeah, this is. Influencing is one of the only like female dominated lucrative fields, you know. So like, I would be mad too if I was them. Like, right. I mean, not that, I mean incel like that, but like, I. I feel like a lot of them are dealing with a lot of things.

[Host 3]

Right? They are.

[Host 2]

Work on yourself first.

[Victoria Paris]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

I started blocking because of you too. I was like, this is a great idea. Sometimes they. Even if it's something kind of dumb or sometimes if it's almost too much love, if a man's like, alone and my girlfriend. I love you Block.

[Victoria Paris]

Yeah, right.

[Host 1]

Scared, right?

[Victoria Paris]

Let's set some boundaries.

[Host 1]

I don't know.

[Victoria Paris]

Yeah, I don't like it. What you're putting out there also is free for them to consume. It's free for you to block them. Like you don't need, like you're not paying for this service.

[Host 3]

Right. I love that. I hadn't thought about that. Where it is, it's like influencing is female dominated and they make money doing it.

[Victoria Paris]

I'm trying to think of another field where it's like women dominated. And we make so like they make so much money teaching so much teaching aesthetics, like hair, nails, like, what else? I feel like real estate too. Women have a lot of hold on it.

[Host 3]

They do. They're good at that. I think like the sex industry, sex work. Like they are. And that's why can be. And they hate them for making their own money off of what they told

[Host 2]

the 50% Florida tax.

[Host 3]

What's that?

[Host 2]

There is this guy who's trying to impose legislation for a 50% like, there's some sort of, like. It's almost like a syntax. They're calling it a syntax. Up to 50% on, like, OnlyFans.

[Victoria Paris]

What do you.

[Host 2]

Creators.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Victoria Paris]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

And you don't see that for, like, strippers or anything like that.

[Victoria Paris]

But it's.

[Host 2]

They're targeting this because there's.

[Host 3]

It's lucrative, you know.

[Victoria Paris]

Also they're targeting such a small group of people because only, like, 0.01% of people on OnlyFans make a living, like, actual money. So you're targeting about a thousand people maybe. And these are girls that you've probably messaged and tried to pay and, like, want to be involved with. A lot of these guys are, again, projecting.

[Host 1]

Is that right?

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

That's crazy.

[Victoria Paris]

Majority of people on OnlyFans are, like, not making any money off of it because it really does involve bringing people to the platform. And a lot of these girls have, like, five. I don't want to generalize and say five guys, but, like, a few of their top contributors that make up 90% of what they make in a year.

[Host 1]

Wow.

[Victoria Paris]

So it's, like, pretty.

[Host 1]

And with that, you have to promote on all your other channels where. Where somebody would like it if their OnlyFans was kind of that secret hide, secret side hustle. But for you to be successful, like, you gotta do the Twitter, the Islamic.

[Host 3]

You gotta get it all done.

[Victoria Paris]

Interesting.

[Host 3]

And it's just Florida based.

[Host 2]

Yeah, it's a state thing. That's awesome. It hasn't gone through, but it's, like, been proposed, of course, and it's. So why the fuck are we wasting time on that? Literally Florida, there's shit to do. And also, it's like, it's being nicknamed the Syntax. I'm like, yeah, don't make this religious.

[Host 3]

That's awful.

[Host 2]

Separation. Church and state, please.

[Victoria Paris]

Yeah.

[Host 3]

I mean, despite all the, like, dark stuff, the bad stuff, whatever. Do you still have fun online? Like, do you have fun.

[Victoria Paris]

I love my phone. I'm on that damn phone all day.

[Host 1]

What's your screen time? 12 hours.

[Victoria Paris]

Every day. Every damn day. Literally kicking your feet. Like, I don't.

[Host 3]

The algorithm's hitting.

[Victoria Paris]

Yeah, never. Like, the Internet's so funny. You got to use it. Right.

[Host 1]

Do you still think TikToks are best? Because Olivia's recently found reels. Some fires on reels.

[Victoria Paris]

Oh, my God. How old are you?

[Host 3]

No, no, there's some heat and real.

[Victoria Paris]

I'm not even kidding.

[Host 3]

There's some heat in reals. I think maybe my TikTok, the algorithm has not been Good. And it's an ad. Every other one.

[Victoria Paris]

That's true, that's true.

[Host 2]

Someone's getting fired because Snowy's is now 50% off.

[Host 3]

Yeah, right. We're right TikTok shy. Done. Whatever.

[Victoria Paris]

I get this old lady in this ad for caraway, and she's like, let him cook. She's like 60 years old. And I'm like, it piss me off so much. Literally, it's this nice old lady, like, getting her check. And I'm like, ah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Host 3]

And like, you try to say, like, not interested, and they. They give it to you more.

[Victoria Paris]

I'm like, perfect, Perfect.

[Host 1]

I have Serena Williams three times a day telling me to take ro three times a day. I'm like, okay, Serena, okay. She's trying to get some joy.

[Victoria Paris]

Get that money. I'm looking for a giggle.

[Host 1]

This is not it.

[Host 3]

Like, come on.

[Victoria Paris]

Yeah, I guess reals doesn't have as many ads. But I will say a lot. A lot of the memes that I find on Instagram are like, the funny jokes originate from Twitter. So if I'm looking for that itch, I'll go to Twitter. Okay, whatever.

[Host 3]

Everything's stolen.

[Victoria Paris]

Guys, I just found out about the truth platform.

[Host 3]

What is this?

[Victoria Paris]

Truth social? Yeah.

[Host 2]

Don't.

[Host 1]

You don't tell me. What is it?

[Victoria Paris]

It's like Trump's social media.

[Host 3]

What?

[Victoria Paris]

Really? He has his own Twitter because he

[Host 2]

got kicked off of Twitter for a while, if you remember.

[Victoria Paris]

And apparently, like, messes with the stock market, too. Like, boy stuff. Stonks. Like, I don't know. I heard about this from a man, you know, and I'm like, oh. And he's like, yeah, you have to, like, consume this to understand. Like, if he says something crazy on here, it's going to affect stocks later because there's that many people using this, like, truth social or truth platform that I've never heard of. None of my friends have ever heard.

[Host 3]

No, never.

[Host 2]

Nor do I want to ever keep me see it.

[Host 3]

I want the lie platform, the live platform. It's just girls going and lying.

[Victoria Paris]

Lying on things.

[Host 3]

I would love that. Girls lying on things and just lying.

[Victoria Paris]

Exactly.

[Host 3]

Eat hot chip and lie. That's what they're doing on there. Charge up iPhone.

[Victoria Paris]

Okay. How young are you now?

[Host 3]

So I'm saying I got range.

[Victoria Paris]

Exactly.

[Host 2]

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[Host 3]

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[Host 2]

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[Host 3]

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[Host 1]

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[Host 1]

You've had an interesting like progression from online also coming out online in a very public way. How was that?

[Victoria Paris]

Mine was like so quick and so casual. Like, hey, guys, love women. Literally. I posted a video being like, I've never kissed a girl and then I had a girlfriend. I was like, you asking you shall receive.

[Host 3]

No, literally, the universe is quick.

[Victoria Paris]

Yeah, it was. Well, the universe was like, I'm not on a budget.

[Host 3]

Here you go.

[Victoria Paris]

Right? Literally I was like, this is way easier than men and way more Pretty

[Host 2]

damn hesitant to come out online. Or were you just like, ew?

[Host 3]

That's my truth.

[Victoria Paris]

At that point, I don't even think like I was like speaking heavily with my family and I was kind of on my own and like starting my own career and I was kind of like not scared of anything really. I was like, there's no whatever. Okay. Like easy peasy.

[Host 1]

Have you always been kind of, I guess not fearless like this, but like confident like that or was just you've grown through it.

[Victoria Paris]

I think what makes me insecure, things that happen, like behind closed doors, like my first time hooking up with a girl, I was literally shaking. I was like, I don't know what to do. And it's like literally do what you do yourself. But like I get really scared in those kind of things. Like an intimate environments. When it comes to doing things I've never done before, I get a little scared. But with that kind of stuff, like with labels or like being online, I'm like, I don't think it matters.

[Host 3]

Right.

[Victoria Paris]

To me at least.

[Host 3]

Yeah. You've done the work though, to make it so that doesn't matter that you're confident enough in it, I think.

[Victoria Paris]

Yeah. And also I Feel like I have such a great audience and I'm like, they'll take me for whatever. Hell, yeah.

[Host 1]

I love my. I love my audience too. I love my girls.

[Host 2]

Has your audience gotten good gayer?

[Victoria Paris]

Like, a lot of them were like, we've been knowing you're gay. So I'm like, maybe I just found out about it. And like, they were waiting. A lot of them were like, we were waiting. So I was like, oh, okay. So maybe they've been gay.

[Host 1]

And I.

[Host 3]

Maybe.

[Victoria Paris]

I think also now that, like, me and Nico are so serious and, like, so publicly dating, I think it maybe has definitely gotten gayer.

[Host 3]

Yeah, that's cool.

[Victoria Paris]

Yeah. But my work hasn't.

[Host 3]

Right.

[Victoria Paris]

Pride month was quiet last year. Not a single deal. You guys, like, really, what the hell? I don't think. I think Pride Month, like, last. Last year for everybody, though, was like, slow, really. But I don't think, like, my work is centered around or the work that I do. Brand focus is centered around being queer. But I think a lot of my identity online is. A lot of people do resonate with that for sure.

[Host 3]

You were just in Costa Rica. Was that a brand trip?

[Victoria Paris]

I went with ted, TED Talk and like a climate conference kind of thing where we like, went into like a women's shelter there and the mangroves and learned about climate change and how it was affecting Costa Rica. It was super fun, super cool. We learned so much. And then I went to the Four Seasons afterwards. They hosted me and it was really fun. But also, like, the best part of the trip was ted, honestly, we went to that and I was like, I'm still relaying from this experience. It was so immersive and hands on and like, I'd never been on a trip like that where you actually get to see, like, so much of the country and like, locally experience it.

[Host 3]

That's so cool.

[Host 2]

Tripping with Ted.

[Host 1]

Yeah, tripping with ted.

[Victoria Paris]

Coin it. Coin it. I love that you were chewing on that one. She started vibrating next to me. She was like, I need to get it.

[Host 3]

Now, being chronically online, your references, like, even the things you've said here, does Nico get them? Oh, my God. Yeah.

[Victoria Paris]

And also, like, people don't realize I'm 26 and Nico's 31. And I'm like, people, because she has such a baby face, I don't think people know, like, her age, but. But I've never felt a difference in age at all, really. It's only like 5 years, but cool. Yeah, she's.

[Host 1]

She's hip, she's with it.

[Victoria Paris]

She's hip, she's down. She, like, knew about the doc dozen before me. And I'm like, who is that? Do you guys know?

[Host 1]

I don't know who that is.

[Victoria Paris]

Oh, Big Red. Yeah. I was like, what are you talking about? She has a whole for you page just in Spanish too, but she doesn't speak Spanish. I'm like, what sides of the Internet are you on, girl?

[Host 3]

God.

[Host 2]

I'll fill you guys in later.

[Host 3]

Yeah, please.

[Victoria Paris]

You can Kia Asylum later, hopefully.

[Host 3]

Get out.

[Host 1]

You got into running. You're big into running now. Were you always a fit? Like, were you an athlete?

[Victoria Paris]

You just.

[Host 1]

This is something you found that really spoke to you. And I mean, Olivia will sometimes get on a treadmill afterwards. She'd be like, the endorphins running through me. I can't even believe it.

[Victoria Paris]

I played a lot of sports growing up. I did track, volleyball, softball and basketball. But I did like, softball and basketball mostly for all my life. And so I'd always been into being athletic or being athletic, but, like moving my body or whatever. And when I got to college, I was not playing any sports and I, like, gained a lot of weight, was feeling like, like, so not at home in my body. So, like, I had no outlet, nothing really going. And I really made a shift of, like, I just found the gym and became obsessed with it. With right after that first year of college. I became a personal trainer when I was like in my sophomore, junior year of college at Equinox, which was so random.

[Host 1]

Oh, bougie, cool.

[Victoria Paris]

But then after personal training, I kind of got really tired of the gym. I felt like a hamster. And I was like, I want to do something else. And my mom has Ms. So I, like, signed up for the New York Marathon when I was like 21 to raise money for Ms. And not to say marathon running was less trendy then, but it was definitely like a six year old man of sport when I was 21. And it was pre pandemic too. And I did that marathon. I feel like I really healed so much. It did it for such a great cause. And I was like, I will never do that again. Like, that was enough of that. Like, that was really intense. And then recently I've gotten back into running because I think it's such a thing online and so many brands are activating around it and so many people want to be involved in running that I was like, why not? I'll try to again. And genuinely, I feel like I came back to it and I actually love it now because it's not as serious or I didn't feel like there was the weight of like all these people, like donating for me to run. Right. Right.

[Host 1]

As before, what's your best time on a marathon?

[Victoria Paris]

Every one I've done, I've gotten faster. So, like my most recent one was 4:24. I mean, I really want to break four hours, which I think I definitely could do if I locked in. But I'm not going to change my whole life just to run.

[Host 3]

Right.

[Victoria Paris]

Like, I want to just be casual with it.

[Host 2]

How many marathons do you do a year?

[Victoria Paris]

I just got back into it. This will be like my, my fifth race. I just did the LA half, which was my first half.

[Host 3]

Did you like that?

[Victoria Paris]

A half is so easy. Like, I was like, I would love to do more of those. Let's run that back. But yeah, I really like the half.

[Host 3]

I ran the New York this year. It was my first ever marathon and I was like, I look to your running content. I was like, I can do this.

[Victoria Paris]

I can do this.

[Host 3]

And now I've been like, there's like, the running community is insane. Like, the second I got done with that, like, first of all, the exposure it gave me, I was like, whoa, people love running. And like the kind of things that came to me from there and like other marathon.

[Victoria Paris]

I remember this content too. This was crazy.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Victoria Paris]

It was like everybody was. You were like the most tracked person. I feel like that I was like,

[Host 3]

do you think so?

[Victoria Paris]

Yeah.

[Host 3]

Okay.

[Victoria Paris]

Because you can look at, I think like Brett. I don't know if Brett was running that race too.

[Host 2]

I think so.

[Victoria Paris]

Yeah. And it was like the short list of all the people that were running. And I think you were up.

[Host 3]

Yeah. Period.

[Victoria Paris]

The top click.

[Host 3]

Period.

[Victoria Paris]

There was an article that came out

[Host 2]

and it was like all the celebrity times at the marathon. She was dead last.

[Host 3]

I was dead last. I was like, I'm. I'm just happy to have made this

[Victoria Paris]

I want to run with you time.

[Host 3]

I got it in 5:17.

[Victoria Paris]

Let's run together. I hate when I talk to somebody about running and they're like, yeah, I'm gonna. I'm shooting for a 3:30 and I'm like, let's never run together ever.

[Host 3]

I was shooting to finish it and have a good freaking time.

[Victoria Paris]

That's what I'm saying. That's what's fun about it. Yeah. It's like just going to have fun, party pace.

[Host 1]

It was a good vibe.

[Host 3]

I might do another one. So we should run. I really did. I thought it was my Knees hated me. But I was enjoyable.

[Victoria Paris]

New York is hilly. New York was my first one. Your first one. And it's an ambitious one to go out on.

[Host 3]

Good to know.

[Victoria Paris]

Yeah, I did Berlin and it was their hottest race ever, but it's the flattest course. And I was like, this is a dream. Just vibing like, New York almost quit at 22. I was like, I can't do this. This hill that hills at the end, Dude.

[Host 3]

When I was, where is Central Park? I literally was like, where is it? Give me it. I can't even believe it. Unbelievable.

[Victoria Paris]

Such good energy there. There's no energy like New York, though. Like, if you do any other race, just be ready to be disappointed.

[Host 3]

Yep, I've heard. Yeah, I've heard. I'm nervous, but I think we should go into some try hard.

[Host 1]

Yes.

[Victoria Paris]

Yes.

[Host 1]

We are going to go into a game we like to call try hard. In rugby, a goal is called a try, so we like to add a little bit of that in. But this, you just have to try hard to answer these questions as quickly as you can.

[Victoria Paris]

Go to coffee, order ice latte, triple shot, honey, regular milk, ripped, Respect, ready to go. Respect every morning.

[Host 3]

Yum. What's something you're weirdly obsessed with right now?

[Victoria Paris]

Is it, like, low? Like, I. Notifications, emails, texts, like, oh, my God, I have everything on for, like, everything. It's so bad. People are like, I can help you find a house. I'm like, I can help find a house.

[Host 3]

I'm on the case. You got it.

[Host 2]

Would you ever shave your head?

[Victoria Paris]

Oh, my God, I want to so badly, but when I'm pregnant, because I feel like I don't want to be worrying about the way I look whilst pregnant. And I think it'll be such a feminine experience already that I, like, wouldn't care that I didn't have hair.

[Host 1]

Oh, that's really interesting take. I like that.

[Victoria Paris]

And I want to grow my curls because I have my hair chemically straightened.

[Host 2]

See, about a year and a half ago, I texted Olivia, I give Victoria Paris two years till she shave her.

[Victoria Paris]

Yeah. Well, guys, here's the thing. Like, Nico is not down for that. Really? The Mr. At home is no Mrs. And also, if she shaved her head, I don't think I'd be down for it either. So you have to, like, rock with her considerations. She dealt with the mullet and the crazy bangs and everything. I'm like, let's, like, give her some peace.

[Host 1]

Okay.

[Host 3]

Yeah. Start with let her sleep at night.

[Victoria Paris]

Yeah.

[Host 3]

All right.

[Host 2]

Slowly but surely, I still Got half a year, though.

[Host 3]

She found that message and, like, replied to it. She goes, how do I bring this up?

[Victoria Paris]

She's.

[Host 3]

When she's on our couch, like, what do we do?

[Victoria Paris]

I'll write Mo a letter. Hey, just want you to really work on this.

[Host 3]

I got one. Best place to solo travel to.

[Victoria Paris]

I think start in Portugal. It's, like, the leftmost part of, like, Europe, and you can go right on. Well, it's hard with trains from Portugal, but it's the perfect place to start and go from there. And I love Lisbon, Comporta, like, all those places. Let Bing around.

[Host 3]

Okay, perfect.

[Host 2]

What's something you could win?

[Victoria Paris]

A trophy for commitment. I feel like showing up and being consistent. Like, I feel like if I say I'm gonna do something, I'm there, and if I'm there, I'm early.

[Host 3]

Yeah. You early to this?

[Victoria Paris]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Early, yeah. Where'd you go?

[Victoria Paris]

I like that.

[Host 1]

Are you a good gift giver?

[Victoria Paris]

Oh, the best. Like, that's one of my, like, I think top qualities is, like, I can give a good gift and also, like, not even a gift. Just, like, I always love giving things, you know, to my friends and people in my life.

[Host 3]

Are you a good sleeper?

[Victoria Paris]

Yes. Every night I'm in bed at, like, 10, and we sleep, like, eight or nine hours away.

[Host 2]

Nice.

[Host 3]

And you stay asleep?

[Victoria Paris]

Yeah.

[Host 3]

Are you up and down? Kind of.

[Victoria Paris]

Yeah, I stay asleep. Usually I track it, and it's. It's dead asleep.

[Host 1]

I do believe women need more sleep because I could. I can sleep.

[Victoria Paris]

We're tired. Yeah, tired.

[Host 3]

We are tired.

[Host 2]

Dealing with all this now. Have you ever stolen anything?

[Victoria Paris]

Oh, my God. Yeah. Like, I almost got banned from, like, South Point. Is it called South Point Mall in North Carolina, where I used to go as well. I was like, a klepto. Like, you know, the. The thing was, is, like, when you go. I'm doing a partnership. Bloomingdale's. Bloomingdale's. Please forgive me. But, like, when you go into Bloomingdale's or. Sorry. It's Nordstrom's, actually. Okay, we're cool. When you go into Nordstrom's, they don't tag the purses on the end of the counter. So, like, we would always go for the things at the end of the counters. I'd always scam that return system that they have there. So I'd buy things. I'd buy one thing at the beginning of the year and just keep returning shit and, like, buying new things with that credit. And I would always steal.

[Host 3]

It's a library she has changed, guys.

[Host 1]

We've all stolen for sure.

[Victoria Paris]

I, like, will not pay for that bag at self checkout, though. That's where I draw the line.

[Host 3]

No, literally the 20 cents or whatever.

[Victoria Paris]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Host 3]

That's.

[Victoria Paris]

No, but I definitely don't steal anymore.

[Host 1]

It's. I love that. Did you take any bags with you today? Yeah, I did.

[Host 3]

Maybe.

[Victoria Paris]

All right, mind your business.

[Host 3]

Have you heard any good gossip lately?

[Victoria Paris]

Oh, my God. Yeah. No, like celeb gossip. I heard this artist that I'm obsessed with is starting her press tour and her album's coming soon, so I needed confirmation of that. And it's a game changer for me. I feel like I can live, you know? Yeah, yeah, right.

[Host 3]

For the next while.

[Victoria Paris]

Love that artist a little bit.

[Host 3]

I think you tried hard. Good for you.

[Host 2]

Okay, let's head on into the book nook.

[Host 3]

This is the part of the show

[Host 2]

where we discuss what's happening in the book industry. We're good readers.

[Victoria Paris]

We're big readers.

[Host 2]

Are you a big reader?

[Victoria Paris]

I've gotten into it in the past year. Like I feel like I read so much as a kid and then like kind of just like being a iPad baby, I fell out of it. But now getting back to it.

[Host 2]

Movies and books now everything related, all of it.

[Host 3]

Do you have an all time favorite book?

[Victoria Paris]

What is it called? It's been so long since I recommended a book. My friend had me reading this book in college called Rooftops of Tehran. I think it's a romance novel about two, like coming of age kids there. I really like romance. I love smut. Like, give me the werewolf. Weird smut.

[Host 1]

Yeah, in the right place.

[Victoria Paris]

Oh, my gosh. Wait, I need to like pull up my phone.

[Host 3]

No.

[Victoria Paris]

Yeah, tell us.

[Host 3]

We have to know.

[Victoria Paris]

I'm going to search through my camera book. That's my favorite thing about eye photos now. It's a game changer.

[Host 3]

Knows my stuff.

[Victoria Paris]

Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

[Host 3]

While you look for that, have you read like Bride by Ali Hazelwood? No, that's a werewolf.

[Victoria Paris]

We'll send you some smutty.

[Host 3]

Some smutty fun stuff.

[Victoria Paris]

Yeah, I like bought all the heated rivalry books to read them and I was like, I don't want to spoil it for me moving forward. Well, you can read up to the

[Host 2]

fifth one or something.

[Victoria Paris]

Really?

[Host 3]

With what came out in that season.

[Victoria Paris]

There was only like four episodes, right?

[Host 2]

No, literally each book follows a different love story.

[Victoria Paris]

Interesting.

[Host 2]

But there's a second Ilia and Shane book which is called the Long Game and it's like, the last one.

[Victoria Paris]

But are you not worried that the next season is gonna go into these love stories you already read?

[Host 2]

They're not.

[Host 3]

Okay.

[Host 1]

Okay. I would imagine with how well that they did with Ilia, they're just gonna stick with that.

[Victoria Paris]

They gonna stick with it.

[Host 2]

And they signed them for. For three seasons, I think.

[Host 1]

Oh, my gosh.

[Victoria Paris]

So, you know, insider information.

[Host 2]

They might do another, like, episode type thing that they did with Kip.

[Victoria Paris]

Yeah, I like that. I like them together.

[Host 3]

That's cool. Did you find the book?

[Victoria Paris]

Yes. Okay, so I will say this is my favorite book of all time, now that I'm older. It's called Perfume and Pain. I just read it recently. It's about a lesbian writer who lives in, like, Silver Lake. And it's like, she struggles with substance addiction, but also she loves, like, perfume and I don't know, she's, like, such a drag, but, like, Loki's so fun to read about and so on the nose. You know, when you read something that feels like it could be your friend. Friend. I like that.

[Host 3]

Love that.

[Host 2]

I love.

[Host 3]

You're now part of the family, which means you need to help out around the house.

[Host 1]

Okay.

[Host 3]

Choose some chores, and you'll be giving a corresponding challenge. Okay. Laundry, dishes, vacuuming, or sweeping?

[Victoria Paris]

Dishes.

[Host 3]

Dishes. Share the last three things you Googled.

[Victoria Paris]

Oh, gosh, here we go. JPY to US dollar currency to US do dollar how to fix my Nespresso Creatist milk frother. FedEx customer service.

[Host 1]

Hey, it's so you got to ask.

[Host 3]

You got to ask.

[Victoria Paris]

There's also, like, Barnes and Noble and PayPal. Like, that's all there is on there, right? And the address to my new house.

[Host 3]

Okay. Period.

[Victoria Paris]

Oh, do I need my phone maybe for more?

[Host 3]

Yeah, you're going to do one more. Laundry, vacuuming or sweeping?

[Victoria Paris]

Never laundry. I'm really bad at vacuuming and sweeping, but I think I would do vacuuming.

[Host 3]

Okay.

[Host 1]

Okay.

[Host 2]

Show us your phone's actual screen time report.

[Victoria Paris]

Oh, my God. I'm not ashamed.

[Host 3]

Last week, you'll say that.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Victoria Paris]

10 hours and 42 minutes, period.

[Host 3]

That's like the average. Yeah, Daily average.

[Victoria Paris]

That's what I thought I said 12, you know?

[Host 3]

Yeah. And you're doing even better.

[Victoria Paris]

That's better than TikTok has 21 hours in a week.

[Host 3]

Okay.

[Victoria Paris]

TikTok morning tonight.

[Host 3]

That's your job, actually.

[Host 1]

Why not get it a full day? You got three more hours.

[Host 3]

You need to get in there.

[Victoria Paris]

Hold on, you guys. Let me go scroll.

[Host 1]

You're just talking to people. Yeah.

[Victoria Paris]

And like.

[Host 1]

And then I just gotta get my hours in.

[Victoria Paris]

That's Nico trying to talk to me in the house.

[Host 3]

Hey, I love that. Well, thank you so much for coming over, Victoria. Make sure you follow her on IG and TikToktoria. Paris.

[Host 2]

Thank you so much for coming over

[Host 3]

to the House of Mar.

[Host 2]

A Wave original.

[Host 1]

Be sure to watch, subscribe on YouTube and listen wherever you get your Patreon podcast.

[Host 3]

Plus follow the show on social media at House of Mar for clips and

[Host 1]

behind the scenes content.

[Host 3]

We'll see you next time. Bye.

[Host 1]

Get out of the asylum. Thanks for coming over.

[Host 3]

I love this.