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House Rhule #139: If Pat McAfee Wants to Rename Your Show, You Should At Least Consider It | Ep. 3
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Coach Scott Frost
Here we go. Episode 3 House Rules We Talk the weekend that was the opening weekend of college football. We talked the huskers Thursday night, 10 against Cincinnati. And we also talk about the NFL upcoming and the weekly show with Pat McAfee. This is House Rules. Welcome back to House Rules. I just have to tell you, I have gotten text messages and calls all across the country. People I know saying I need to hang with Cuz. I need a weekend in Philly with your boy Cuz. The one, the only, Anthony Gargano.
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Co-host / Interviewer
My man.
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Coach Scott Frost
What's up?
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Co-host / Interviewer
Listen, we'll have some fun. You know, we, we know where to take him to eat. I think that's no doubt. I think no doubt about. All right, let's get to one. And oh, let's talk about Cincinnati for a moment and just kind of when you look back at the game, did you like.
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Coach Scott Frost
Well, I like the fact we thought a way to win the game. You know, I mean it's, it's the first Power Four win to open a season at Nebraska since like 2004. And so, you know, when you play Power Four football, you better expect the other team to come in and compete. And you know, I love the fact that we were in that unbelievable environment. Late night game, Andy Reid comes out, shakes everyone's hand. Patrick Mahomes, I mean, the stars were out and Taylor Swift, Taylor Swift was there. Travis Kelce was there. I mean, my daughter, still not going to forgive me. And we won the game. And she's mad because she didn't get a chance to meet. You know, I live at home with two Swifties and they were, they were, they were unbelievably excited to see her on the Jumbotron. But I thought that was really cool. Like, like you come to Nebraska to be in those environments, right? So we were in that environment. NFL stadium, amazing crowd. And hey, it was a great game that came down to the wire. So I was happy that we won a close game that hasn't happened at Nebraska a lot. And our last two games, the bowl game and this game were one score games that we found a way to win. And so defense, you held him 69 yards passing. Offense, you know, we didn't have any turnovers, so there were a lot of things that were good. And then like any coach, there's things that make you upset and you're like, all right, we got to get better this week. They had 200 yards rushing. Didn't love that. But to win the first game of the year always makes you feel like all Right. We had a good training camp.
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Co-host / Interviewer
Yeah. And Dylan. I thought Dylan played really well, made some really good throws. I thought his decision making was. Was very good. How did you assess Dylan Rayola's performance?
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Coach Scott Frost
I thought he was excellent. I mean, you know, again, no turnovers, you know, 78% completion, something crazy like that. And he took what the defense gave him. I mean, Cincinnati comes in, they're one of those college 3, 2 defenses, shell coverage, keep everything in front of him. That's how we play the Baylor. It's a tough thing to go against. And Dillon was patient, you know, when he had a chance. You know, we threw the fade for a touchdown in Isaiah. When he had a chance, he. He tried to push the ball down the field in the intermediate ranges, but I thought the biggest thing was he checked the ball down, he moved the chains with his feet, and he made all the right checks. And so early in the year, as the year goes on, you know, you get better. Every team gets better. You evolve. But when your quarterback is making good decisions and being selfless, man, you're fired up.
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Co-host / Interviewer
Yeah. And you know what he talked about earlier, which is, all right, I got to remember the game's four quarters. I got to remember not to play it all the first quarter. That's what stood out, like, the fact that you learn how to win, that you become. And that's why winning a game like that, I thought, matters.
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Coach Scott Frost
Yeah, no doubt. There's a certain feeling you get when you have a lead and the other team comes back. And some teams, like, you know, they get pissed off. They're like, all right, enough of this, and they go out and they end the game. Some teams go, oh, no, here we go again. And you let the other team back in. And so we didn't go here, oh, no, here we go again. Like, they fought back, they made some plays, they adjusted. But, you know, we got the ball with seven minutes, and we ran off five minutes, got it down to two minutes left, plumbed the ball down inside the 10. They made some plays. Sorsby, their quarterback, he's an excellent player. I mean, he's running around. I mean, he was dynamic. But Malcolm Hartzog, our safety, you know, unfortunately gets a PI and comes right back the next play, man, and goes up and takes the ball away in the end zone. And you love seeing that with a senior, and you love seeing that mindset, like that mental toughness. But that's why I feel good. It wasn't like he was like, I can't believe, you know, I got that call or I can't. He just went and played the next play and something good happened. So that mindset, when you haven't won a ton to have a winning mindset is hard. And guys like Dylan, guys like Malcolm, they're bringing that. It's not me, it's them. They're bringing that out in the rest of the team.
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Co-host / Interviewer
So what did you tell her? Would you tell the kids? And how do you use this one as the first? Because you talk about stacking and building and how do you use week one both from a positive and negative standpoint to kind of reinforce the message?
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Coach Scott Frost
Yeah, you know, I showed him a clip of Dan Quinn and Dan Quinn at Washington talking about, hey, they come in on Monday, it's Tell the Truth Monday. And you know, that's an old Pete Carroll ism. Van Quinnism. And I use that. And so I wanted them to say, like, hey, guys, you know, it's not, I stole this. It's not mine. But you want to come in and very unemotionally, right? Be like, all right, here's what we did well, here's what we didn't do well. Don't listen to, like, what everyone else is saying. Just let the tape speak. Like I told the players, like, you shouldn't even necessarily. Even if I say something, your coach says something, the best critic is yourself. And so look at the tape. Asked everyone to grade themselves. Look at the things we're teaching. What worked, what didn't, what do we need to improve on? And you know, that to me, like, if you get all emotional and I've done that in the past, you can't imagine that I've done that in the past. And so what I'm hoping for, cuz, is that we get better from week one to week two. Anytime you play your first game, you're not playing against yourselves, you start to see, like, okay, this is what we're good at. Oh, maybe we're not as good at this. We need to fix this. So just coming in like an auto mechanic, man, looking under the hood and just saying, hey, what needs adjusted? Each player does that, and then you get better.
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Co-host / Interviewer
Week two, well, that's the difference. When you look at the NFL, you have a preseason, right? Like, there's no preseason in college football. And what we all saw in week one was, you know, the people that know the most are about this sport. Got a lot of it wrong because you just don't know what to get.
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Coach Scott Frost
Yeah, well, I think. I think, you know, you have the, like, hey, so and so plays in FCS school, they score fifth. Okay, forget those ones, right? Look at the Power 4 and Power 4 games. And you know, some games are like ours, you know, we're not ranked currently, they weren't ranked. But as the year goes on, we'll find out how good those two teams are. Right? We're going to find out then you watch a game like right before we play Boise, who's ranked 24th and South Florida just rolls over Boise.
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Co-host / Interviewer
Yeah.
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Coach Scott Frost
So no one knows who is going to be who this year to last year. One of the things I said today in my meeting was like, hey, we all have to remember everybody has $20.5 million to spend on athletes and about 13 to 15 on football. So the days of like, hey, everyone leaves this school to go to this school because they have more nil are over. Everybody has the money now. So that's a little different. So we're going to see different teams emerge. And then you watch like the ranked games, you know, these high powered offenses and you're watching the game, it's, it's seven. Nothing at halftime or, you know, ends up whatever it ended up. What was the final score of the Texas Ohio State game? That was a defensive game, you know, that wasn't like 14 7. 14 7.
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Co-host / Interviewer
Yeah.
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Coach Scott Frost
And Ohio State's in control for a long time now. Texas comes back, good teams are going to come back at the end of the game. And guess what? Texas is a good team. Ohio State's a good team. If you're at Ohio State right now, you gotta love the way Julian Saen played. And so that to me is the reality of it is how much better is Texas and Ohio State for playing in that game? How much better are we for having played a close game as we move forward, but it's going to take a couple weeks to sort out, hey, who's good, who's not, who plays who.
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Co-host / Interviewer
I'm just curious because so much, you know, over the weekend was all about Arch Manning, right. And the spotlight's on this kid and you know, does not play a great game. Like what do you say to your own kids? Like, what do you say to a kid like that that's coming off of, with all the hype and social media and all the noise that surrounds him?
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Coach Scott Frost
Well, I think Arch Manning is going to be a great player. I think like we're just, all it is is just expectations and it's expectations brought on him by outside people. Like he, he engineered, he engineered a comeback. They had a chance to get Back in the game. He'll come back this week. He's got Steve Sarkeesian, who's one of the best offensive minds there is. They've got a great defense, they got playmakers. They'll get. They played the national champions, and he'll get better and better and better. He just has to play. He's played how many games? He's played four games. That was like the first pass he's thrown on an away game, like. And we're expecting him to come in. Like, I always go back, right. I mean, they're pretty good. I mean, they did win the national championship. I mean, so. Yeah, I mean, come on. So. But I just think it's like, hey, it's expectations, it's narratives, and I think Arch is as grounded as anyone, and I'm certain that he's just going to go back. He's going to practice this week. He'll get better and better and better and get comfortable because he's a great player. And I always go back to Peyton, and you listen to Peyton Manning talk about the pressure we put on young quarterbacks today, and you look at whatever it was, his first, his second year, one of those years, you know, he threw more touchdowns than interceptions. But we were way more patient with quarterbacks, you know, however many years ago. And now it's like, if they don't come out right off the bat, because, yeah, there's going to be a Jalen Daniels, there's going to be some guys that get off to a hot start, but, like, some of these guys need some time. And I think it's the same in college. Like, we played a freshman quarterback last year in Dillon, and I see him every week. He just gets better, and he just gets better, and he just gets better. I think arcs, you're going to see some great things from him.
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Co-host / Interviewer
And we saw it all throughout week one, which is the defense is always ahead of offense at this point just for the fact of getting in sync. Right. Just for the idea of game environs, all that stuff.
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Coach Scott Frost
Yeah, no doubt. And I think, you know, you can, you can. I think one of the things people don't talk about enough is just even the cadence and the snap count. Like, you're, you're. You're playing like I'm watching last night. Yeah, you're watching Miami. Okay. And at the end of the game when Notre Dame. Dame has to drop back and throw the football, they're in Miami. You know, the crowd is loud, the snap count, it's just all these things that you try to simulate and you ask. But in today's. In today's format, it's great that those guys played those games because they're all going to go back because Notre Dame has a great defense, the tailback's amazing, and the quarterback for his first game played like a winner. So they're going to be a good team. And that's real football. That's playoff football, and that's the benefit of those guys playing those games early.
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Co-host / Interviewer
So let's go over some of the happenings, too, because there was a fascinating story about what happened against Alabama in Florida State. When Tommy Castellanos talked about Alabama not being the scary Bama and that he said, they couldn't stop me. And everybody thought he was nuts. And he turned out to be a prophet.
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Coach Scott Frost
It's interesting. You watched him play last year at Boston College, and he plays against Florida State, and he's dynamic player on the field. You know, we watched a lot of Tommy because he had been the quarterback early at BC who we played in the bowl game. So he's a winner, he's a competitor. And you know what, Like, I tell our guys, like, you know, I'm old school. I'm Joe Paterno, you know, I'm Tom Coughlin. I love the guys just to be, like, really quiet in the media, but if you say it, you gotta go back it up. And so. And I know those guys at Florida State, you know, Evan Cooper, who's one of my old coaches, played for me, he's there. Terrence Knighton, who worked for us, is there. Tony White, the defensive coordinator. You know that with the athletes they have there in Tony's mind, you know, they're going to play great defense. You bring in Gus Malzahn on offense. So I think there's a lot of things there. I mean, Florida State, you know, two years ago, they won a bunch of games, right? So they. They just. They had the signal caller. He played really well. But to your point, I think sometimes today these kids, they rally around someone who isn't afraid to speak up and say, hey, you know what? We're going to go do this. And they need someone to be the first believer. And maybe that's what happened.
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Co-host / Interviewer
Yeah, I, you know, sometimes I think it could be a good thing. I mean, going way back. Joe Namath, right. Like, guys that taught, like they could deliver something. I think it's kind of cool. You said rallying around, and I think that's exactly what it appeared to be.
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Coach Scott Frost
I think it's best when it's your quarterback. The worst thing is, we know it's like, you know, your, your, your second string, you know, whatever says it, you know, and it's just as viral. And you're like, come on, really? Oh, no. Yeah. But, you know, like, because to me, at the end of the day, like, when you lose a football game, two to three people take the most heat. The head football coach deserved the quarterback, and then sometimes the play caller, you know, everyone, everyone wants to call the plays. And what I love is when the quarterback says, you know what? I'm going to step up here. Like, I'm going to take heat no matter what, but I'm going to step up for my guys and they're going to hear it. Whether that's rallying guys at practice, whether that's saying what Tommy said, you know, our quarterback, Dylan, he goes to the media days and he says, hey, we want to compete in the Big Ten. We want to go the College Football Playoff. And I'm not backing down from that. Like, that changes mindsets, that changes expectation levels. And so you just have to back it up. But your quarterback, he knows he has to back it up. And so that, to me, is what makes that unique and that, that makes that interesting. And again, I'm Dylan, if you're listening to this, I'm not saying to go say all that stuff, but, but I do think there's something too. There's a time and place for everything.
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Co-host / Interviewer
Yeah. All right. The other big story was lsu, Clemson.
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Coach Scott Frost
Right.
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Co-host / Interviewer
That was not a big matchup, and it was kind of a referendum like Clemson's. Interesting, because Dabo said, look, we're not going to be in the portal. We're not going to go there. We want to build it from within type of thing. And it almost became this, this referendum of Dabo's way against where the, where the sport is headed. And I was just curious what your take on that game because it was Klub Nick against Nussmeier. And to your point, it came back to a defensive struggle.
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Coach Scott Frost
Yeah. And I think, I think if you're lsu, you gotta be really excited about the fact that, like, how well your defense played. Right. I mean, if you go back to the last couple years, it's like, you know, LSU's defense is back at the level that I'm sure Bryant, Coach Kelly wants. And, you know, they win an opener, which hasn't really happened in the last couple of years. And so, you know, I think Brian Kelly is one of the best coaches in football. And so. And I think Clemson's a really good team and you watch Clemson play in that game and I mean that's a game that went back and forth. You've got Klubnick, you know what he can do. He'll get better and better and better as the year goes on. You gotta be fired up about Nussmeyer. I mean, like he handled pressure, he moved in the pocket, he played an excellent football game. And when you have a good defense, you have the skill that LSU always has, but then you have great quarterback play, then you have a chance to do special things and then they won the game down the stretch. But those are two teams I'm sure are going to be in contention to get into the playoff. And that's, that's the new college football. Right. You know, that loss doesn't hurt you. If anything, it just makes you a little bit better as you come down, you know, in the committee's mind. And it makes you better as you kind of learn from it. So. And you know what? I think as the new rules are in effect, I think you'll see maybe less big portal additions and most teams are going to win, are going to recruit really well in high school and then bring in key players. And so I think you'll see like a mixture in the future of how.
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Co-host / Interviewer
Teams build themselves where it becomes almost like NFL free agency where you. I know I need this piece, maybe a wide out or defensive tackle and I can go into the portal for that. But you're going to build it kind of homegrown.
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Coach Scott Frost
Yeah. And I think, you know, as players look at it, you know, if you're in the NFL and you have a chance to sign a two or three year deal, over a one year deal, you know, there's maybe sometimes there's more upside with the one year deal, but there's also a lot more downside. So as guys have a chance to sign multi year deals, now that we have true contracts and revenue sharing, I think you'll see more guys stay put because they want to sign, you know, hey, you know what? I'm going to take a really good deal that's consistent that I can be somewhere for two to three years as opposed to always taking a one year prove it. You know, one year prove it. When they work out, they work out, but when they don't, it stinks for you. So I think you'll see a little bit more consistency maybe as we move forward. And I think teams will want to build, they'll want to build like you want to build through the draft. They'll want to build through recruiting.
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Co-host / Interviewer
This is opening week in the NFL. Cowboys and Eagles and Micah Parsons gets traded. Blockbuster. What are you thinking, coach?
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Coach Scott Frost
Well, first of all, when I saw it, I was like, no way. Yeah, I could believe I saw it after the fact. I was like, are you kidding me? And obviously, you know, I followed Mike a long time because, you know, he's a Harrisburg guy, I'm a central Pennsylvania guy, he went to Penn State. You know, in baseball they say a five tool player, like that's kind of what he is. He can do it all. And so big fan of his. You know, I just think until I got to the NFL and was in those meetings, you don't really realize the economic impact of everything. And so it's like a man, you hate trading your best player, but it's eacd a huge deal, right? You have, you have a quarterback under contract. It's really hard to have like the highest paid defensive player and a super high plate offensive player. You know, they just, I know they just did the corner as well. So it's like, it just, it becomes, it becomes hard to manage all that. So there's such a financial impact that isn't always about the player. But man, it's hard to give away, it's hard to give away a guy like Michael Parsons. And to your point, like you're giving, you're getting two first round picks and you're hoping that one of them ends up like Micah Parsons. And what's crazy is as Micah plays well, you know, like there's a big difference between like the 8th pick in the draft and the 22nd pick of the draft. There's always.
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Co-host / Interviewer
Packers are going to be good.
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Coach Scott Frost
Yes. So I love it for the Packers. I mean they're, they're, they're a team that's going to play great defense. They're going to be able to always be able to run the football, get good quarterback play from Jordan Love, and then they have a chance. And so to add a dynamic presence like Micah, I think it's a huge move for Green Bay and you know, for Dallas. I mean, you know, again it's, I think a lot of this comes down to finances, to economics, to decisions and priorities. But man, I didn't see it coming, to be honest with you. People are always asking me, coach, why don't you run the ball more or pass the ball more? Do you know anyone on the volleyball team who will sign my shirt? They also asked me where to get tickets for Husker games, which is why I want to give the sponsor of today's video, SeatGeek, a huge shout out. With over 35 million downloads, SeatGeek is the number one rated ticketing app. There are more than 70,000 events listed on SeatGeek, including concerts, sports festivals and more. College football and the NFL are back. Major league playoffs are around the corner and even the NBA isn't too far behind. You're going to want to come watch us play. Michigan, Michigan State, usc, Iowa, Northwestern. Getting those tickets. You can find them on SeatGeek. SeatGeek is the official ticket marketplace of Nebraska athletics. All Nebraska Tickets on SeatGeek are authentic and secure. I love using SeatGeek. I jump on the app now. I'm a no concerts in the season guy, but Cody Johnson's coming to Lincoln. My daughter wants to see Tate McCrae, Bailey Zimmerman, Jason Aldean. You get the idea. Seatgeek has your back. Each ticket is rated on a scale of 1 to 10, so you know you're getting a good deal. Look for the green dots. Green means good, red means bad. Plus every ticket is backed by their buyer guarantee. And of course, I have a code for you guys. You can use code rule10 for 10% off your next set of tickets at SeaKeek. That's 10% off any tickets with promo code rule10. That's R H U L E10. Make sure you click the link in the description to download the app and have the code automatically added to your account so you can use it later. Thank you. Seatgeek. One of the great things about being at the University of Nebraska is being around the best of the best. And when I think about the best athletes, I think of our next guest, the one, the only, Becca. Alec, Good to see you.
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Becca Alec
Good to see you.
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Coach Scott Frost
One of my favorite athletes. I didn't know anything about volleyball till I got to Nebraska. Like we were North Carolina soccer and I started showing up at like even youth volleyball matches. It's a serious thing here.
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Becca Alec
Oh yeah.
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Coach Scott Frost
So when did you start playing?
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Becca Alec
I had my first ever camp when I was 7 and I started playing competitive club when I was 11.
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Coach Scott Frost
Any other sports?
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Becca Alec
Oh, yeah, basketball. Basketball was my first love.
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Coach Scott Frost
Really?
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Becca Alec
Oh yeah. I wanted to be the first woman in the NBA.
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Coach Scott Frost
Becca's brother, Josiah, great basketball player here. I see him sometimes riding downtown with a. With a mint coat on. On his bike. And could you beat him?
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Becca Alec
Oh, no, he told me I couldn't beat him even if he was in a wheelchair. So he's not wrong. He's got long reach.
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Coach Scott Frost
What made you fall in love with volleyball.
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Becca Alec
Oh, my gosh, it was hard. I got really bored in basketball.
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Coach Scott Frost
Okay.
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Becca Alec
It just came really natural. The handle of it all came pretty quick. I would argue that if I had goggles sooner, I probably would have never joined volleyball because my jump shot was always off. And now it makes sense why.
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Coach Scott Frost
It was the goggles.
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Becca Alec
It was the goggles.
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Coach Scott Frost
You were ABCA player of the week. You were the player of the match against Stanford. It seems like you're always at your best when your best is required.
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Becca Alec
Yeah, I don't know. I think a lot of it just comes down to discipline. Jordan Larson, she's one of my favorite people. Coaches, just looking at the game through her eyes like it's just a moment. And, yeah, you can appreciate it, but never make it bigger than what it is. At the end of the day, it's just the sport that you've been doing, you know, in places like this.
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Coach Scott Frost
I know, football practice, right? We run into each other, we yell, we scream. Right? What is volleyball practice like? Is it competitive? Is it technical? Like, how do you operate in that world?
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Becca Alec
Oh, yeah, I would say it's both. I really love how Danny's changed some things up with a few of the drills. Even when we're running through the opponent's lineup, we're keeping score, so. And depending on the drill, so. So say we're playing sixes, and whoever wins the best, like, three out of five, you get to go put a point on the board.
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Coach Scott Frost
Oh, really?
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Becca Alec
Just under your name. I. I want perfect reps every single time. And I would argue, like, yeah, I'm really good at blocking. And it's easy to get praise from my coaches and my teammates, like, oh, that was such a good round. But it wasn't to my standard. And so I might come off as ornery and all of that, but, like.
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Coach Scott Frost
I come off that way so, too. Sometimes. I'm glad we have that.
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Becca Alec
Oh, yeah. No, you gotta be. I mean, at the end of the day, if your standard is above everyone else's and they don't know that, like, you're gonna seem like such a. I can't curse. You're gonna seem like such an ass, though, right? But in your world, it's like, you know, that's not your standard. And so if it's not reaching your standard, that's the only opinion that matters.
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Coach Scott Frost
How do you deal with, you know, social media, the pressure from the outside? Positive, negative. How do you deal with all that stuff?
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Becca Alec
Stuff in today's society, honestly, like, with the Accolades and all, it's. It's pretty new to me. I'm not really used to the recognition, so it feels good. But honestly, like, these people don't have any clue what they're talking about. I've been kicking butt, like, every year. I'm very appreciative that the accolades are showing up, but I don't do it for the accolades. I do it because I love the sport. I just have always wanted to find the best in the room and, like, I want to challenge them.
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Coach Scott Frost
That's how I feel. Like when I go to media day days, I see their coaches and I'm like, hey, good to see you. And I'm like, I want to play this guy.
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Becca Alec
That's what I'm saying, man. They will always know deep down in their heart that you beat them. And they. That will keep them up at night because the next time they see you, like, ah, damn. Because when the cameras go off, they know that they're not number one.
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Coach Scott Frost
So when you look into the future, not knowing what it'll be, but, like, you know, just what are your hopes and dreams for what lies ahead?
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Becca Alec
Long term goals. What I would love. I want to be a mom. I want to be married, so I would love that. I want to have as many kids as possible. I want to have.
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Coach Scott Frost
I have two that you can borrow anytime you want. Vivi. Leona. They will come hang out with you anytime.
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Becca Alec
That is awesome. I want to have one in Olympics, so I want a gold medal representing the best country in the world. I actually want to own my own, like, construction business.
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Coach Scott Frost
Really?
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Becca Alec
Yeah. I want to work more with, like, lower middle class and just rebuild homes because I understand what it's like.
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Coach Scott Frost
And when you leave here and you talk to, you talk to the people that were around you, like from the people in the cafeteria to the people in academics and just the people who really know you.
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Becca Alec
Right.
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Coach Scott Frost
What do you hope your legacy is? Leaving the University of Nebraska?
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Becca Alec
Oh, gosh. That's such a. That's a good question.
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Coach Scott Frost
Thank you. That's a good question.
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Becca Alec
No, that one's really good. My overall legacy as an athlete, like, I want them just to be like, I was described as like, a warrior. Like, I wasn't in it for the accolade. Like, I purely loved the fight. I even told Dan, like, I want to walk out of this season with a couple yellow cards. I want to piss people off. Like, I am just so tired of playing nice. And I feel like there's this new era of female athletes where we don't apologize for being mean. And it's about freaking time. Because volleyball, it's actually way more intense than people pan out to be. Like, when you're actually going out, it. You can tell when a hit in the face base was on purpose. Like, this game is intense.
- [24:48]
Coach Scott Frost
You know, my dad, when I had my daughter and I had my second daughter, I remember him telling me, he said, just remember, raise warriors, not princesses. And that's just what you just said. Like, I loved in women's basketball a couple years ago, I loved watching Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese, and I loved even, like, the controversy sometimes around it, because it's like, we love that in men's sports. Like, why can't that be in women's sports? Well, I can't thank you enough for this time. But more important, I can't thank you for the example you set, for the courage you always show to speak your mind, to be who you are. And I think that's what we need. We need authentic people who leave a legacy. And I'll just tell you this from me. You've left an impact on me and my family and your short time here and our short time together here, and that you've been here longer than me. But I'm grateful you take the time to share this with us.
- [25:34]
Becca Alec
Absolutely. Thank you, Rose.
- [25:36]
Coach Scott Frost
Becca, Alec, Olympian winner, warrior. So no matter how hard I've tried, I just can't be a good golfer. Sometimes that's the curse of being a football coach. But today could be the day that we make some progress. I'm excited to introduce you guys to the one, the only Danny Woodhead. College football great, NFL great. Now one of the best golfers people that I know and a Nebraska native. So excited to have Danny with us here today.
- [26:09]
Danny Woodhead
Thanks for having me.
- [26:10]
Coach Scott Frost
Oh, absolutely, brother.
- [26:10]
Danny Woodhead
Let's. Let's try to get a little bit better.
- [26:13]
Coach Scott Frost
You know, my whole thing in football is always, let's just get, like, 1% better. If I get 1% better today.
- [26:18]
Danny Woodhead
Oh, you're something. You're gonna get 1% better. It's just. Can we get better than 1% better? I want to go over the fairway, or. I mean over the trees, into the fairway to the right. We'll see if we can get something.
- [26:31]
Coach Scott Frost
Wow.
- [26:31]
Danny Woodhead
Oh, that was so sliced. But pretty. Pretty doable.
- [26:35]
Coach Scott Frost
Yeah, if that's a slice, I don't even want to show you what mine is. So tell me about this golf. So, yeah, this golf thing. So you get done playing.
- [26:42]
Danny Woodhead
Yep.
- [26:42]
Coach Scott Frost
And had you been a golfer, I.
- [26:45]
Danny Woodhead
Think I was, like, 8 to 10 years old. My grandpa kind of introduced it to me, and then it was kind of just like an excuse to hang out with my dad and my brother. My dad was a football high school coach. Football, basketball, PE for elementary students. And I just like to compete. Anything. If we're playing cards, I would love to bury you. Like, I would love to bury you. If we're playing cards, I want to bury you here. Like, I know you're.
- [27:11]
Coach Scott Frost
That's not saying very much right now, but even.
- [27:15]
Danny Woodhead
Even say you were getting 18. I'm still trying to. I'm still trying to bury you because if I'm going to do something, I want to win. Otherwise, like, what are we doing all.
- [27:24]
Coach Scott Frost
Those years on the Patriots? Yeah, you're the most competitive guy in the NFL.
- [27:29]
Danny Woodhead
If you suck in year five, you're not playing. It's cutthroat. But, like, I found that out.
- [27:35]
Coach Scott Frost
I found that out, by the way, too.
- [27:36]
Danny Woodhead
Yes.
- [27:36]
Coach Scott Frost
Yes, I found that out. A different. Yes. But.
- [27:39]
Danny Woodhead
But it was just like. So every day, you. You have to learn that, like, you got to win every day. That's what kind of turned into golf. And now I'm trying to do it with golf.
- [27:52]
Coach Scott Frost
Now that's a slice. Explain to me how you're not a former Husker. Explain to me, like, how you come out of North Platte. You set every record, and I can't sit here. Right. Like, we can't sit here and show you Tate. How's that happen?
- [28:07]
Danny Woodhead
I guess I just wasn't good enough. And back then, too. When you're. When you're not recruited by other. Other teams, Nebraska thinks you'll just walk on. Like, that was kind of the thought. I. I never got offered to walk on, but if I did, I would have probably told him to kick rocks. Like, that just wasn't in my DNA.
- [28:27]
Coach Scott Frost
Like, not coming to Nebraska to go. Did that put a chip on your shoulder?
- [28:30]
Danny Woodhead
Yeah, I mean, I. It's not like I. Yeah, I didn't like Nebraska, but, like, that just wasn't the plan for me. And, like, I'm cool with that. What do you feel comfortable with? You're about. You're 220.
- [28:41]
Coach Scott Frost
Putter. My putter.
- [28:42]
Danny Woodhead
Besides the putter.
- [28:44]
Coach Scott Frost
I'm out. Seven iron. And just get back.
- [28:45]
Danny Woodhead
I'd take a seven iron. Aim a little more left just with your feet. There you go. Almost. Go nice and easy. And don't. Don't stand up. Just stay here. Just stay here.
- [29:00]
Coach Scott Frost
I'm not gonna talk in your backswing because Obviously, that could affect.
- [29:02]
Danny Woodhead
If you talked to my backswing, I could care less.
- [29:06]
Coach Scott Frost
Is that not what I'm doing? Am I not.
- [29:08]
Danny Woodhead
I mean, that's really close to what you're doing.
- [29:10]
Coach Scott Frost
I can't wait to watch this podcast to see exactly what I'm doing. Oh, so you're in training camp, and then you. Eventually you get cut, right?
- [29:17]
Danny Woodhead
Yeah. So. So first I tear my ACL that first year.
- [29:20]
Coach Scott Frost
Oh, geez.
- [29:22]
Danny Woodhead
And I remember driving to the. I missed my brother's wedding for it. I tear my acl, and I remember talking to my wife, high school sweethearts. We had just gotten married. And she's at the wedding, or the wedding was the next day. And I was obviously angry. And she's like, well, let's take a step back. You're heated in the moment. I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no. You don't get this. Like, I'm in the NFL. I'm a small little running back from Shadran State College. You don't get it. I was like, I'm done. Like, they're just going to give me an injury settlement and be gone. Well, they kept me. I actually do remember I'm in a patient room and they're checking. I don't even know why they MRI'd it. They knew it was just eviscerated.
- [30:13]
Coach Scott Frost
Right.
- [30:13]
Danny Woodhead
And it was just a wild time. And I remember I was like, this sucks. I hate it. And I was praying, and I felt like God said, no, you're gonna play. And I was like, wait, you don't. You obviously don't know the NFL. It was like, you might have created, like, the earth and stuff and. And bad on me for that. But, like, I was like, no, no, no. This is a whole new game. He goes, no, you do your. You do your job. I'll take care of the rest. And I was like, probably know something. I was just going to do everything I could. I ended up making the team next year on practice or on practice squad, getting elevated as a receiver six games in because they knew I knew the playbook, and I was Wes Welker one week and. And ended up killing it on against the. The first team defense.
- [31:03]
Coach Scott Frost
Wow.
- [31:04]
Danny Woodhead
And then things just kind of took off weirdly.
- [31:06]
Coach Scott Frost
Okay, this is the one.
- [31:07]
Danny Woodhead
This is the one.
- [31:08]
Coach Scott Frost
This is the one. Oh, my word. Oh, my word.
- [31:16]
Danny Woodhead
It's all right, Danny.
- [31:17]
Coach Scott Frost
This is gonna get better.
- [31:18]
Danny Woodhead
It's gonna get much better. That's.
- [31:21]
Coach Scott Frost
That was a little tempo there. See that?
- [31:23]
Danny Woodhead
Yeah, that was good.
- [31:23]
Coach Scott Frost
Oh, that's.
- [31:24]
Danny Woodhead
No, that's really good.
- [31:25]
Coach Scott Frost
We're on the green.
- [31:25]
Danny Woodhead
It was.
- [31:26]
Coach Scott Frost
So you dated your wife in high school?
- [31:28]
Danny Woodhead
Dated my wife in high school.
- [31:30]
Coach Scott Frost
That's amazing.
- [31:34]
Danny Woodhead
Oh, I haven't done what I want to do. I haven't in golf yet. And I feel like. And I've been able to experience some cool things. Like, I heard the chatter, and I think it was the next year I ended up qualifying for the final stages of the US Open.
- [31:49]
Coach Scott Frost
Yeah, but not many people can do what you can do. Like, most people, like, they start hearing people, and then they start to believe the noise. They start to get negative. They start to get anxious. Oh, but for sure, you're using it as motivation.
- [32:01]
Danny Woodhead
Oh, that is so bad. I every.
- [32:03]
Coach Scott Frost
I blame the simulator. Personally, I think we need to, you know.
- [32:06]
Danny Woodhead
Oh, scoot it up a little. I've always just wanted to try to prove people wrong. If they say I can't do stuff. That was a good swing.
- [32:13]
Coach Scott Frost
There we go. Finally. That was much better. I have a no golfing during the season rule. So, like, you know, this is. This isn't golfing. This is simulating.
- [32:20]
Danny Woodhead
Yeah, it is.
- [32:21]
Coach Scott Frost
What are your goals in golf?
- [32:22]
Danny Woodhead
I want to compete at a high level in amateur golf. Like, I'm not. Some people are like, are you trying to go pro? No, I'm not trying to go pro. I did the pro thing before, and it was amazing. But, like, their lifestyle's not great. I might be hitting a tree. We'll see. I just don't know if that's going to get out of the trees ever. I would love to play in you national events, US Amateur, US Mid am.
- [32:49]
Coach Scott Frost
When we. When I first met you, you talked about, like, hey, when you got done playing and how that competitive nature, like, getting into golf.
- [32:54]
Danny Woodhead
Yes.
- [32:55]
Coach Scott Frost
Almost like. Almost like chipping. You're in the back chipping, you know, like that. That competitive drive, if it doesn't go into golf, it has to go into something.
- [33:02]
Danny Woodhead
Yeah. So my wife and this. This is one of the best things ever happened is she. She actually told me, like, you. You need to start golfing. And I was like, can she call Julie for me? I was like, what's going. She's like. She goes, I love you, but, like, this has always been my domain. And she said, well, how about during the week, you just are gone, like during a work day? And I was like, is this like a trap game?
- [33:34]
Coach Scott Frost
I don't know how you answer that.
- [33:36]
Danny Woodhead
I was like, yeah. And she said, honestly, when you haven't been doing golf or something, you're competing at home with me. And I was like, kind of makes sense. Because we hadn't lived that life. So golf became that for me. It was like, I need to get my competitive drive out, get home. I'm a much better dad, much better husband.
- [33:57]
Coach Scott Frost
I love it. Julie has what she calls the reentry period every July when I have some time off. And I come back and I'm like. I'm like, you know, I think they should do this. And I think Vivi should have to do this. And I think Leona, she's like, oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry you haven't been here. No one wants your opinion. We love you. We love you to be a part of everything. Yes, but we don't need your opinion here.
- [34:19]
Danny Woodhead
That's so true.
- [34:20]
Coach Scott Frost
If I talk to any of your teammates, what made you different? What makes people like you so different?
- [34:24]
Danny Woodhead
I hope they would say that obviously I was a hard worker and. And I think more than anything that I did the little things.
- [34:35]
Coach Scott Frost
Your high school career, and it could be your college career, it could be you in the National Football League. One play that, like, defines who you were as a football player.
- [34:44]
Danny Woodhead
One we were playing, I think, the Bills in New England. Tom's. He sees the play, like, sucks. So he's audibleing and he gives concept over here, concept over here. Usually with the concept over here, I'd run a read route out to the side, like a option or breakout only. And I was like, no, no, no, I. I can't do that. There's gonna be someone there. And I was like, trying to think through. I was like. And it was like, all on the fly. And I ended up running a sneak across the formation because I knew the routes that were coming, and I'm scoring a touchdown on it. And I remember Josh and film. He goes, we've never went over this. He goes, But Danny knew what to do because he knew the play. So I would say, yeah, I beat the guy pretty badly on the route, but I can't beat the guy if I don't know what to do. Those are things that took no athletic ability. I mean, it takes athletic ability eventually, right? But those are game changing plays that don't happen if you don't know the playbook. That don't happen if you don't have a relationship with the quarterback or, like, what they want. Yeah, you could say, super bowl, touchdown, cool, whatever. Like, I felt like I wouldn't mind.
- [36:00]
Coach Scott Frost
That I might have dropped that one. I might have that one. But.
- [36:03]
Danny Woodhead
But so I would say those are. Those are the plays that I'll look back and be like, that's kind of sick.
- [36:10]
Coach Scott Frost
Danny Woodhead. Competitor, baller, golfer. But now we're going to see if he's a teacher. Last shot of the day for me.
- [36:20]
Danny Woodhead
Oh, no. Get over it, get over it, get over it. Get over it.
- [36:26]
Coach Scott Frost
Not a teacher, but a great guy and a great football player. A great father, great husband, great friend. Go, Big Red. Danny Woodhead.
- [36:32]
Danny Woodhead
Thanks, brother. Appreciate it.
- [36:36]
Co-host / Interviewer
All right, it's time now for anything but football.
- [36:40]
Coach Scott Frost
And.
- [36:40]
Co-host / Interviewer
And this is where we get coach talking about the world. All right?
- [36:43]
Coach Scott Frost
Because you're a worldly man. You.
- [36:46]
Co-host / Interviewer
You have a lot of knowledge to impart. All right?
- [36:50]
Coach Scott Frost
I love it.
- [36:50]
Co-host / Interviewer
So let's go. We have a lot of people, a lot of chatter, talking about the books on your desk. In fact, we had one somebody looking at. Trying to use chatgpt to figure out the books, man. So tell us about the books on your desk.
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Coach Scott Frost
All right, let's go through here. So, okay, Bill Polian, super bowl blueprints. Bill, son Brian, a good friend of mine. And I've got to know coach, and so I listened to him speak a couple years ago, and I went and bought his book, Hagakure. But Bushido code about samurai. Every morning, the samurai woke up and dreamed of his own death. So he wasn't afraid of it. My boy, John Gordon, Episode one. So I was gonna have some John Gore, some positive energy. The man. Have you ever read Tim Grover? He was Michael Jordan's strength coach. Kobe, Dwyane Wade. So relentless was his first book. This book right here, one of my favorite books. Talk about, like, I'm a parent, I'm a coach. You gotta read Winning by Tim Grover. J.C. horn, one of the toughest players I ever coached. When he told me this was his favorite book, I was like, all right, I love this guy. Episode two, Ben Newman, the standard. Standard over feelings. And then, let me see over here. All right, so in here, some of Ryan Holiday's books. Ego is the enemy's not here. But then right thing right now. Discipline is destiny. The obstacle is the way another one's not here. And then I tell you what, this is one of my favorite books. A man who gets down on his knees has forgotten how to die. Courage is calling Ryan Holiday stoic. If you've never read Legacy and you're a sports fan, you're crazy. It's the All Blacks and how the All Blacks reconnected back into the principles that made them great to once again became great. So they were like a team that was dominant, and then they just kind of were going through the motions. They reconnected back into everything in their culture and in their history to make them great. So, legacy, something that I take very seriously. Coming to a place with five national championships, how do you honor the past and build for the future? And then I bought this the year before I got fired. Have an idea of how things might go. This is called Merry Christmas, you're fired. Like when I got. It's by George Allen. When I did get fired, Charlie Cashley sent me a nice note. He goes, you need to go get this book called Merry Christmas, you're fired. I said, got it. And I had bought it the year before. I was at a sports conference, and someone was speaking about it, and basically it's like, hey, when this does happen to you, you're sitting around Christmas time, sit down and write out everything that you did right, everything you did wrong, everything you would change and build your plan for your next place. And so very similar to what Pete Carroll did, he talks about after he got fired, the jets and Patriots writing out his philosophy. So this is one that keeps me humble and also keeps me focused on, hey, I went through some good and some bad. All those lessons. Let's pay them forward to try to do a better job here.
- [39:43]
Co-host / Interviewer
I remember Spags telling me, when, before he linked back up with Andy Reid, Steve Spagnolo, that it was very cathartic for him to kind of go through of what he learned and what he failed at.
- [39:57]
Coach Scott Frost
That's right. Yeah. I think when you go through something like, let's say you have success, everyone remembers the successful things. Let's say you don't have success. Everyone. But there were all kinds of things along the way that were both good and both bad. And so to me, I believe in debriefing after everything. After the game last week, we went 1 0. We won. There were things we did to our standard. There was things that we didn't. And a lot of people just say, like, okay, well, this is what we did. I think a great coach and Mike Lombardi is one who taught me this. He said Al Davis used to always tell him, the great ones figure out why they won or lost. Not well. We won because we ran the ball well. But why did you run the ball well? Because we attacked this and we practiced this. And so if that's the way you think about winning, when you lose, it's like, okay, we lost. Why? We couldn't stop the run. We couldn't do that well. Why? Well, you know what? We didn't practice this. We didn't practice that, okay? Like, let's just get real scientific. And like I said, just look under the hood. Then you just build a philosophy. You build a way of thinking that kind of carries you towards success.
- [40:53]
Co-host / Interviewer
You hand out game balls from games because one of the game balls has to go to the ball. Boy, after what we saw, he got me fired up.
- [41:06]
Coach Scott Frost
Stubbs, I mean, he's a. He's. I mean, okay, this guy. We have the greatest student equipment managers of all time at the University of Nebraska. They're from, like, all different parts of Nebraska. He. He's a lefty. He's a quarterback. He's tough. There was a couple, two years ago, we didn't have enough guys for practice. A couple of the guys were, like, running routes, an individual, and they got hit, knocked down, get back up, you know, Noah went from equipment manager. Now he's working for us in coaching. So, like, they love football. That was pure passion. I didn't love the. You know, hey, you know, that's not. You know, those things aren't really my thing.
- [41:40]
Danny Woodhead
Right.
- [41:40]
Coach Scott Frost
I didn't see it till afterwards on Instagram, you know, but that's. That's what it means to be a Husker, man. Like, we're all in. Like, every single person in this building is trying to win. When we caught that touchdown, the passion, the energy, the joy, that was him that was coming out. So I don't even know if he'll be at practice today. He's a media star now, apparently. So. We'll see. We'll see.
- [42:04]
Co-host / Interviewer
All right, one last important subject. We're going to talk about the name of the pod. Do we now change it to. To Rule's House? Because I love what Pat McAfee, whose house rules house.
- [42:18]
Coach Scott Frost
I, as an old run DFC fan, what I was so excited. I will call whatever people want to call it. How about that? You name it. I mean, but I loved. I loved. Hey, I love just. I love Pat McAfee.
- [42:32]
Co-host / Interviewer
I mean, he's the best.
- [42:34]
Coach Scott Frost
He's energy, passionate. When I first met him, they. They came to college game day at Baylor, and this guy jumps into the end of the river. Yeah, The Brazos River. I'm like, oh, my goodness. So, like, that brings out the best in you. And so over the years, I see him in different places, and I always. If he asked me to go on, I always go on. So when he asked me, you know, hey, would you want to, you know, come on weekly? I was so excited because msbi, espn. I mean, I love espn. I'm a huge fan. Kevin Nagani is my boy. Herb Street. I love these guys, you know, Matt, Pat, but, you know, like, they cover the sec and we're in the Big Ten, and I want some Big Ten love on. On espn. So the chance to be on there was unbelievable. And I love the guys on his show. You know, Darius Butler, aq, All those guys. I mean, they're just awesome. So we got home for like, 5:00 clock from the game, and at 8:15, I wake up to a FaceTime from Pat Me. You know. You know how you wake up and you're tired? You don't act like you're tired. You're like, hey, how you doing? He's like, hey, can you do 11:15 your time? I was like, yeah, no problem, no problem. My wife's like, what? Nora? But, yeah. So, hey, whose house rules? House. Let's do it. I'm all in.
- [43:38]
Co-host / Interviewer
Ah, it's gonna be great, man. Looking forward to it each week. It's the best.
- [43:43]
Coach Scott Frost
Well, that's the end of the show. Don't forget to, like, share and subscribe on YouTube or wherever you get your podcasts. And remember to follow us on social at House Rules till next time.