Body Rock LIVE! w/ Alison Brie (HDTGM Matinee)

Summary

How Did This Get Made? – "Body Rock LIVE! w/ Alison Brie" (HDTGM Matinee)

Date: January 27, 2026
Hosts: Paul Scheer, June Diane Raphael, Jason Mantzoukas
Special Guest: Alison Brie
Location: Live at Largo

Episode Overview

This infectiously rowdy, laughter-packed live episode centers around the 1984 dance drama Body Rock—an obscure cult curiosity notable for its absence from all platforms but YouTube. Paul, June, Jason, and guest Alison Brie deconstruct the film’s confused aspirations, bonkers plotlines, questionable lead character, gloriously dated fashion, and offbeat musical numbers. Alison Brie adds her unique perspective (having watched it twice for the occasion and learned breakdancing for Glow), and the whole group revels in sharp-witted banter, mockery, and genuine moments of insight about 80s pop culture representations, dance movies, and the joys of watching cinematic disasters as a group.

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Key Topics & Insights

1. First Impressions & Tony (Chilli) D's Questionable Star Power

• Confusion over the tone and premise:
  • “It’s hard to call this a film… Is it a motion picture? Is it a moving—honestly, if you break it down... is it a moving picture? Yes. But this didn’t cut together for me.”
    — June Diane Raphael [06:11]
• Chilli’s utter lack of redeeming qualities:
  • “Chili is written as having nothing about him that is interesting… but inexplicably, he succeeds in spite of himself… he’s a villain for all of you.”
    — Jason Mantzoukas [11:41; 27:35]
  • “He’s a homophobic misogynist… Even his treatment of women is so terrible.”
    — June Diane Raphael [24:43]

2. Plot Confusion and Character Motivations

• Whiplash shifts in plot focus:
  • “I thought a number of times… I don’t know what [Chilli’s] goal is… Is it about graffiti? Is it about breakdancers? Is it about MC? Is it about club ownership? I still don’t really know.”
    — June Diane Raphael [13:09]
• The movie’s bizarre stakes:
  • “It’s a tough sell for a mainstream movie to be about a lead character who really wants a good manager.”
    — Paul Scheer [14:43]
• Relationships make no sense:
  • “Why can’t Darlene join Body Rock? She works at the hospital. She’s got shit going on.”
    — June Diane Raphael, Jason Mantzoukas [26:17–26:20]

3. Chilli D’s Fashion and Hairstyle

• Costume bewilderment:
  • “At some point I said to myself, Fernando—Lorenzo Lamas—is wearing two open vests and then a shirt under it. And I was like, that shirt is his chest. He’s just so hairy…”
    — Jason Mantzoukas [04:24]
• Endless 80s sartorial choices:
  • “These are intense looks. I don't understand how someone who makes no money can afford all these looks.”
    — Paul Scheer [18:49]

4. Breakdancing, Music, and Dance Culture

• Brie’s dance insight:
  • “I watched it twice. For Season 2 of Glow, I had to learn a little bit of breakdancing... It does actually take quite a bit of skill, June.”
    — Alison Brie [10:06–10:16; 40:21]
• Magic vs. Chilli:
  • “He only teaches him the easy stuff... but [Chilli] never actually performs breakdancing in the movie!”
    — Alison Brie [12:37; 31:17]
• Remarkable lack of rhythm:
  • “People are offbeat all the time. Most notably Chilli, the first time he tries to rap and introduce the Body Rock Crew, it's so off.”
    — Alison Brie [32:38]

5. The Club (and Its Mysteries)

• Club design and narrative logic:
  • “This is the largest club that has ever existed... At one point, they go up a giant escalator to another floor, and then they're in a private area of the club that's also the size of two stages.”
    — Alison Brie [28:35]
• Sleep No More comparison:
  • “It’s like Sleep No More–style dance numbers; you’d have to chase them through the club. Like if I just ran backstage…”
    — Paul Scheer [29:02]

6. Sexual Politics, Roast Beef, and Uncomfortable Moments

• Creepy romance and family life:
  • “Everything sexual in this movie is off-putting. Every kiss, every—well, we’ll get to the sex scene.”
    — Paul Scheer [23:21]
• The mom subplot and pathos:
  • “His mom who sits in her room watching old timey movies from the 40s. His mom who suffered a fall at one point it sounded like.”
    — Alison Brie, June Diane Raphael [19:16; 19:21]

7. Breakdancing Disagreement: Art or Gobbledygook?

• June's controversial take:
  • “I'm not a huge fan of the form breakdancing... It’s just a bunch of gobbledygook.”
    — June Diane Raphael [39:40]
• Banter and playful debate with Jason:
  • “You mean my art form? ... We are gonna battle so hard.”
    — Jason Mantzoukas [39:46; 41:28]
• Jason recalls his own breakdance ‘career’:
  • "I would put down cardboard and watch Magnum PI and practice breakdancing moves."
    — Jason Mantzoukas [39:00]

8. Musical Numbers, Soundtrack, and Second Opinions

• Shockingly charted soundtrack:
  • “The theme song peaked at number 48 on the Hot 100 chart and Lorenzo Lamas also got on [for] Fools Like Me. Both in 1984.”
    — Paul Scheer [44:01]
• Bonkers lyrics:
  • “Have you heard about Shakespeare? He wrote a lot of good stuff.”
    — Alison Brie [71:22]
• Memorable second opinion review:
  • “From the beginning of the movie … to the final rapstravaganza, which is basically the whole movie...”
    — Paul Scheer [69:05+]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Chilli’s alleged charisma:
  • Jason: "The narrative... is that he becomes inexplicably the star, having proven his value to be literally zero." [36:00]
• On Darlene’s enduring tolerance:
  • June: "He does nothing to redeem himself to her. Well, I mean, nothing." [24:43]
• On club absurdity:
  • Paul: "It would be like if I just ran backstage and, like, I'm doing the podcast and ran out to the parking lot. It would be upsetting to you." [29:02]
• On music and breakdancing:
  • Alison: "When you try to learn stuff like this, then you realize the value, because it's very difficult." [77:21]
• On breakdancing and social context:
  • June: "For boys, they don't have many outlets. ... At the time you were coming of age, break dancing was a way for you to express yourself." [73:14]

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Audience Q&A Highlights

• Confusion over character ages and professions:
  • Audience: "I feel like it opens and they're doing what high schoolers would do… And then later, she's a doctor?"
    [55:26–55:36]
  • Hosts: "Darlene... more administrative?" — "Most at this point, I feel like she's maybe an RN." [56:04]
• Discussion of unintelligible dialogue and technical flaws:
  • "There is a lot of bad sound recording. It’s the only movie that I noticed rain on a camera lens ever."
    — Paul Scheer [59:39]
• Audience in full ‘Chilli’ costume honors:
  • "He's got a chili jacket."
    — Paul Scheer [65:36]

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Final Thoughts and Recommendations

• Recommending ‘Body Rock’?

  • Jason: "I don't know that I would recommend people watch this one... I would definitely listen to the song Vanishing Boys on repeat." [75:24]
  • Paul: "I may buy the soundtrack... and I would recommend you do watch this movie. Boy, oh boy. Wow." [75:40, 77:51]

• June’s Parting Shot:

  • “Just because something is difficult doesn’t mean that it’s good.” [77:29]

• Alison’s Final Thought:

  • “...The line about Shakespeare is: ‘have you heard about Shakespeare? He wrote a lot of good stuff.’” [71:22]

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Not-to-Miss Segments (Timestamps)

• First breakdown of Chilli’s character flaws: [11:41–13:00]
• Debate over breakdancing as ‘art’ or ‘gobbledygook’: [39:40–42:00, 72:16–73:39]
• Audience Q&A and wild IMDb review reading: [55:01–65:09]
• Discussion of musical numbers/lyrics: [33:15, 71:22]
• Fashion and chest hair banter: [04:24–05:04; 18:26]
• Sex scene deep dive: [47:02–51:16]

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Tone & Language

The entire panel’s tone is irreverent, quick-witted, and loaded with playful derision, nostalgia, and moments of genuine insight. In-jokes about fashion, cock rings, the indignities of watching VHS-quality YouTube rips, and “gobbledygook” breakdancing are peppered with affectionate shout-outs to listeners and each other.

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For Listeners Who Missed It

This episode is both a loving evisceration and ode to Body Rock’s camp qualities: exuberant dance sequences, incoherent narrative, mystifying protagonist, and all its gloriously 80s trappings. Alison Brie’s contributions (as a fan, a breakdancing student, and keen comedic voice) fit perfectly, and the group’s chemistry delivers exactly what HDTGM fans crave—a celebration of the “so bad it’s good” with enough insight and heart to make you want to put on a (fake) chest-hair vest and awkwardly mark your place on the dance floor.

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Best Summed Up

“Don’t just watch it tonight. Live it tonight. WHOA. Five stars.”
— IMDb review, as read by Paul [69:05+]

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Want more? Listen for repeated debate over whether June can, in fact, breakdance, the hosts' mutual appreciation of Magic the kid, and the running tally of Chilli D’s negative attributes—all in exactly the “How Did This Get Made?” tone you love.

Transcript

[Paul Scheer]

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[Jason Mantzoukas]

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[Alison Brie]

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[June Diane Raphael]

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[Paul Scheer]

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[Jason Mantzoukas]

The choice is simple.

[Alison Brie]

A roll that feels like paradise and.

[Paul Scheer]

Always at a heavenly prize. Angel Soft. Angel Soft.

[Alison Brie]

Soft and strong.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

So it's simple.

[Paul Scheer]

Pick up a pack today.

[Alison Brie]

Angel Soft.

[Paul Scheer]

Soft and strong.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Circle.

[Paul Scheer]

Now I want to introduce to you a movie where we all said pu. If you think this rapid bad just wait and see. After watching this flick you'll think it's the best in history. We saw Body Rock and you know what that means.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Now it's time for. How did Schwarzenegger grow a baby in his belly?

[Paul Scheer]

Rock a rhinestone vest while ripping Justin to Kelly or maybe see a burlesque show with Nick Crow and take a boat with speed to hitting cruise control J man big Paul in the beautiful June gonna take you from the goob all the way to the room Ran the games of street Fighter help to blow off steam Just a sucker punch the odd life of Timothy Green Sharknado the birdemic how we staying alive they call it in the badass and he's on the line cranking 88 minutes cause they cool as ice cause the bad Jim Vonnie looking kind and nice Paul and June getting literal Jason is getting laid June is all the monkey shots getting paid they judge a bunch of movies while they making the grade. Here's a real question for you. How did this get made? Hello people of Largo.

[Alison Brie]

That's a good little career.

[Paul Scheer]

We are live at Largo. How are you tonight? We are so excited to be here. The whole gang is here and we are talking about a movie that is unavailable in any format but YouTube. And it's a goddamn travesty. This is a movie that calls for high definition. I appreciate the effort that it took to watch this and I think the rewards were greater than we all anticipated. Tonight, to talk about this film, I am joined by my co host. Please welcome Jason Mantzoukas.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

What's up, jerks?

[Paul Scheer]

Welcome, Jason.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Different chairs.

[Paul Scheer]

Different chairs.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Different chairs. They're lower. They're much lower chairs.

[Paul Scheer]

So you can look at the audience.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Looks like I'm sitting very low. Okay, cool. I guess this is what we're doing.

[Paul Scheer]

You have a lot of chair things in your rider.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I got a lot of chair. Yes, yes. A lot of chair specifics. No stools.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, no.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Don't like them. Don't care for them. Although I like stools more than I liked this movie.

[Paul Scheer]

How dare you?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

At some point I said to myself, fernando Lamas is wearing two vests. Not Fernando, Lorenzo.

[Paul Scheer]

Lorenzo.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

His son. Sorry, I'm old enough to have first learned Fernando Lamas and then learned who his son was.

[Paul Scheer]

Fernando Lamas.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I was like, he's wearing two open vests and then a shirt under it. And I was like, that shirt is his chest. He's just so hairy that I mistook his chest hair for another shirt.

[Paul Scheer]

And by the way, that means the chest hair is working. That really is an impressive hunk.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

This movie's full of hunks.

[Paul Scheer]

This movie captures the 80s in a way that I love. It was not pretty. It was not. It was. I feel like in many New York based movies, it looks cooler and I feel like this captured it exactly right.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

It's not super cool. It's pretty to look at, but not super cool.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, and it's also like grimy. This movie is like grimy New York.

[Paul Scheer]

Which I loved so, so good. And here to talk to us about all this movie and I'm sure about the fashions and the hairstyles, my other co host, please welcome June Diane Rayf.

[June Diane Raphael]

I'm okay.

[Paul Scheer]

June. Body rock thoughts?

[June Diane Raphael]

Okay. It is. We were talking about this a little bit backstage. It's hard to call this a film as I think we all know that, you know, language matters. Words matter.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Sure.

[June Diane Raphael]

Is it a motion picture? Is it a moving. Honestly, if you break it down. Is it a moving picture? Yes. But this didn't cut together for Me.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

So you'd like a re edit. You'd like them to just get in there, open it back up.

[June Diane Raphael]

Open it back up. See what they see. Bring on a new editor. Fresh eyes. Fresh eyes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

How about more songs? Do you think more songs would have helped? Instead of a new song starting every 30 to 45 seconds, I will say, what if a new song started every 15 to 25 seconds?

[June Diane Raphael]

I was in a rush to watch this, and I just finished moments ago, so you'll have to excuse me. I am like, just post body rock.

[Paul Scheer]

Just like, your body has just been rocked.

[June Diane Raphael]

My body has been rocked.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I hope after sex tonight, all of you are like, ooh, I am just post body rap shots.

[Paul Scheer]

If we do not make a T shirt that is a silhouette of Lorenzo Lamas with his like, no, I want.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

A T shirt that is Lorenzo Lamas. The. The. On the sides is the two open vests. And then it's just the middle of the shirt is just chest hair.

[Paul Scheer]

You know what? I love that. And I also go, let's recreate the bouncer shirt, which had all the rules of the bar on the shirt.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, that's crazy.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And he was tough.

[Paul Scheer]

He didn't even need to say it. He wore it carved.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Carved into his chest hair is body rock. The words body rock, like, they've been shaved in.

[Paul Scheer]

I love it. Get to work.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Get to work, you fucking nerds.

[Paul Scheer]

We just released our stellar skateboard shirt, which is pretty amazing.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I saw it. It's great. All right, well, if Stellan Skarsgrd is at all aware of the stellar skateboard scenario, and if he is flummoxed by it. Well, I shared an elevator with him once, and I almost mentioned it.

[Paul Scheer]

No.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And I was like, he could definitely beat me up.

[Paul Scheer]

Also, it gets into one of those things where you'd have to explain what a podcast is to him. I feel like that would be the big. But what is it like? Where would people hear this? No, it is definitely a thing because his Wikipedia page goes from being unlocked to locked often. Because every time it's unlocked, it is quickly changed to stellar skateboard. So some eagle eye. How did this get made? Listener and I love you for it, is making sure that that thing stays locked for eternity.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Which also means that it doesn't appear as though Stellan Skarsgrd has been in a movie in three years. Cause nobody can get in there to update that account.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, we are very excited tonight. This is somebody we've been wanting to have on the podcast for a long time. She Starred along with us in the movie the Disaster Artist. You know her from Mad Men, from Community, and the amazingly hit Netflix show Glow. Please welcome Alison Brie.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Woo. Woo.

[Paul Scheer]

Welcome.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Hello. Hello.

[Alison Brie]

I want you to know that I very seriously asked June if I should do the worm just now, in earnest as I came out here.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, Alison, there's one thing that you share that none of us do. You've seen this movie twice.

[Alison Brie]

Guys, I loved it. I watched it twice. I should preface this by saying for season two of Glow, I had to learn a little bit of breakdancing.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, really? Okay.

[Alison Brie]

And we actually have a very similar break, learning to break Dan's montage in season two of the show. It doesn't take place at the zoo is the only difference.

[Paul Scheer]

So you don't have a cutaway of a bear rubbing up against a tree?

[Alison Brie]

No, no.

[Paul Scheer]

Or a giraffe just like, huh.

[Alison Brie]

What I liked. I know this is late in the movie and we're not really getting into this right now, but you can you. I liked that most of the animal shots, it was not a reaction shot. They were doing nothing at all. They were just like in the middle of the afternoon, a bird just like staring off into the distance.

[Paul Scheer]

It was almost as if home footage of someone's trip to the zoo was intercut in this movie.

[Alison Brie]

Yes, yes, exactly.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, let's just start off right here at the top. This movie is kind of like staying alive, kind of like Cocktail. And then it makes you realize how amazing those movies are because this one is. It's a real tricky thing. Thing to have a lead character who has no talent.

[June Diane Raphael]

Well, listen, I don't think I've ever. I thought a number of times during watching this movie that I wonder. I don't care for him and I. I don't want it. I don't know anything about him and I don't want to like. I both.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

There's a lot of like.

[Paul Scheer]

We're not saying Lorenzo, by the way. We're saying the character Chilli Chilli Chilli written as having nothing about him that is interesting.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They kept. He seems to be. But inexplicably, he succeeds in spite of himself in a way that, like, I kept being like, oh, the narrative is gonna be about the fact that he's talentless and is going to be revealed. But no, in fact, he is like a hero at the end for being like a horrible person to everyone involved. Basically, he treats everybody in his life like a piece of shit. Then when he gets treated like a piece of shit, all his Friends are like, oh, no, they were mean to Chilli. We love him. And I was like, chilli has basically ripped everybody off. Asked them to teach him how to do their skills, which he then makes money out of.

[Alison Brie]

Well, sort of. Except I would just like to point out that there are two Chilly learning to break dance montages in the movie, but we never see him break dance in performance. He spends all this time learning how to do it, and then it cuts to him on stage kind of rapping.

[Paul Scheer]

And when he does get his big number, it's a slow song.

[June Diane Raphael]

It's a ballad.

[Alison Brie]

It's a ballad.

[Paul Scheer]

It's a ballad. Yeah. Which does not seem at all right in the vein of this movie.

[Alison Brie]

Well, okay.

[June Diane Raphael]

So the movie starts, and I thought, oh, it's a graffiti movie.

[Alison Brie]

Agreed, agreed.

[June Diane Raphael]

And by the way, I'm excited. Like, that's interesting to me. Body rock. Like, okay, I don't know how it's gonna relate, but great. And then I thought, no, no, no. It's about. It is about breakdancers. And then I thought, no, no, no. It is about mc. And then I thought, no, no, no. It's about club ownership. I mean, there is no. I still don't really know what Chili's goal is. Well, when he goes into his dream job.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah. When he goes into the manager's office, doesn't he want the guy to manage.

[June Diane Raphael]

Him as a graffiti artist?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

As artists. Because he'd gotten money for the graffiti artist. Blizzard. Was that that person's name who makes.

[Alison Brie]

And he makes a brief appearance early on in the movie, and they're like, look at that guy. He's so smug. And it cuts to him, and he's just smiling at them.

[June Diane Raphael]

He looks like a nice guy.

[Alison Brie]

Looks like a fucking sweetheart.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I kept being. But I kept being like, is his name actually Blizzard? I turned on the closed captioning on YouTube, which might as well just be someone typing words into YouTube concurrent to the MOV that are not related to the movie. And it did not help me understand if that person's name was or was not Blizzard.

[Paul Scheer]

I will say that it's a tough sell for a mainstream movie to be about a lead character who really wants a good manager. Like, that was like, I really need good managers.

[June Diane Raphael]

Get to manage what. To manage what.

[Alison Brie]

I would like to point out that when Chilly, early on in the movie, he's sitting in the office of, you know, the unemployment office, and he says, and I quote, she asked him what his dream job is. And he says, I want to be like Muhammad Ali. In his prime. And then she says, so you're a boxer? And he's like, no.

[Paul Scheer]

I think that scene was to be like, chili's so cool. He sticks it to the man. But she seemed nice. Yeah, lovely.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, I felt bad. I felt worse for her. Cause she was sick. Her character is working at the employment office, trying to get morons like Chilli a job.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Who, when he's there, is, again, not wearing a shirt. She has shown up for work, sick in terrible lighting. Yes. And this, like, I don't give a shit. My nips are out.

[Paul Scheer]

Let's just.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Let's take a look. This is for real. This. I want you to understand. This movie should be about this woman. That's a harrowing John Cassavetes movie that I would watch.

[Paul Scheer]

I mean, I don't even think here.

[June Diane Raphael]

Chester Chili, what kind of work would you like?

[Paul Scheer]

Because I wouldn't want to be a trash.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Look at his chest. It's so heavy.

[Alison Brie]

If you could do anything you wanted.

[June Diane Raphael]

What would that be?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Anything?

[Paul Scheer]

Sure. I would like to be like Muhammad Ali in his prime. And he puts his fist to her face. No.

[June Diane Raphael]

When you go out for a job interview, do you usually dress the way you look today?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Absolutely.

[Paul Scheer]

I like to look fresh. Fresh, Jeff. Fresh.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

She goes home to someone who's like, how was work? And she's like, not good. Not good. You should see what's up. I had a Chili and an Easy today. Things are bad. They were not wearing shirts.

[Alison Brie]

I feel like Chilli looks like the villains from the Karate Kid throughout the whole movie. Like, he always looks like he's in a G, but it's not. It's just like, a weird belt and his open shirt and his headband.

[June Diane Raphael]

His fashions. I mean, we could spend a lot of time. At one point, there's, like, a leather duster.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, well. He says his big dream for when they get rich are that it's gonna be all limousines, leather coats, and we can buy a condo. And he does get that leather coat.

[Alison Brie]

He gets all three.

[Paul Scheer]

Wow.

[June Diane Raphael]

Oh, wow.

[Paul Scheer]

We're just taking a look at some of Chili's best looks.

[Alison Brie]

Wait, what? While this picture is up, I just want to note something about the name Chili that through most of the movie, I thought it was spelled like the food. The spice spelled with a Y. It's spelled with a Y, which is, like, chilly willing. Like chilly willing.

[June Diane Raphael]

Exactly. He is unwell. He is not a well person. That is insane.

[Paul Scheer]

Chilli. Well, Chilli is like, yeah, These are intense looks. I don't understand how someone who makes no money can afford all these looks and. Are they all living together in the same apartment?

[Alison Brie]

No, he lives with his mom.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, right. Okay.

[Alison Brie]

God.

[Paul Scheer]

Sorry. Sorry.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

God.

[Paul Scheer]

Aw. Paul.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Paul.

[Paul Scheer]

But he was with.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

What about his mom?

[Alison Brie]

Paul, wake up.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

What about his mom?

[Alison Brie]

His mom who sits in her room watching old timey movies from the 40s.

[June Diane Raphael]

His mom who suffered a fall at one point it sounded like, well, yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, well.

[June Diane Raphael]

So when. So when Chili goes back to the house with Darlene. Darla.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Darlene.

[June Diane Raphael]

Darlene. And is pretending that it's his apartment and he's outed because there's a huge crash from the bedroom. Okay. His mom has fallen off the bed. Like, there it is. A thump. That is so loud and so unsettling.

[Paul Scheer]

It's equivalent to the ladybugs drop off the chair.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah, exactly. It's like something happened in there. Like a person. Like, in my mind, like she was drunk and had a little too much to drink and she's watching her programs and she fell and you should check on her. He doesn't move a muscle.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

No, he's not. And he finally has to, like, shamefully admit, my mom's in there, but doesn't.

[June Diane Raphael]

Move to see that she's okay.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

The wig on Grace Zabreeski is. And she is. I mean, she is mere years away from her daughter Laura Palmer being ripped from her. Ripped from her body. One of the all time great character actors of this era, Grace Zabriskie is amazing in this movie.

[Alison Brie]

Oh, yeah.

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[Paul Scheer]

See terms. I would say that even when Chili is trying to be charming, there's something unnerving about him when he's in the kitchen eating the roast beef. And.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

This is a world in which everybody's clocking the roast beef.

[Paul Scheer]

And when the girl comes in to get some post shower roast beef. Ooh, I just, I'm feeling so nice and clean now. Let me just chow down on some roast beef. And she even holds it up and it looks like prop food that has been left around for a long time. Cause it didn't eat terrible. But he smiles at her like I wrote down like the Golden State Killer. She's like, oh yes, it's open mouth. Maybe fangs will come out. And now I will murder you.

[Alison Brie]

Well, he's hiding that last piece of roast beef that she's like, oh, I thought there was roast beef. And he's like. And he just looks to the side and like shoves a bunch in his mouth really fast. It was off putting.

[June Diane Raphael]

It was very off putting.

[Paul Scheer]

I would say that everything sexual in this movie is off putting. Every kiss, every. Well, we'll get to the sex scene.

[June Diane Raphael]

I like the break dance.

[Alison Brie]

I'm glad you brought this up in relation to the roast beef scene because right before there is a questionable exchange between this chick and her brother who yanks her out of the bathroom by her towel. It was a little weird.

[June Diane Raphael]

There's a lot, listen, there's a lot that's problematic about Chilli. I mean, and by the way, the way he's handled is so. The character of Chilli is so upsetting because he's a violent man. And he, he is, he's a violent man. He is unhinged as a person. Sorry to skip ahead, but one of the last scenes when he's getting the other Claire off the stage, I mean, he's physically just intimidating her and is aggressive toward her. She has to leave.

[Alison Brie]

He just picks her up and like Holds her really tight, threatens to hurt.

[June Diane Raphael]

Her physically, and she gets off. I mean, it is. This is. He's not a good person. He's just not a good person.

[Paul Scheer]

But at least he's got talent. Nope.

[June Diane Raphael]

But truly, he's a homophobic misogynist. And by the way, the movie doesn't deal with that on any level. And let's just take the homophobia out of the equation for now. But just. Even his treatment of women throughout the movie is so terrible. And the way women. I mean, Darlene has no standards and is treated like shit throughout. He does nothing to redeem himself to her. Well, I mean, nothing.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, I would argue that.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Friends. He's a bad person to her. To his friends, he's a bad. He is not. He is not. He is. He is selfish and not generous to literally anybody in the movie.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, I would argue that in these movies. And I go back to Cocktail and Staying Alive, both of those characters have similar journeys. Like, they want to get somewhere, they get somewhere, they become dicks and then they come back to their life, you know? But. Well, Staying Alive is a little different. But there's an element of charm to all of these people. And Chilli seems to be the side character that you're like. He should not be, like, the lead should not be hanging out with Chilli. But Chilli is. It's like the movie should have been about someone else who just had a little bit more of a heart.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He's like the bad influence friend.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, yeah. Chilli gets a little bit too much screen time. Because even, like, when they show him. I mean, I don't even understand why he's with Darlene that whole relationship.

[June Diane Raphael]

Why can't Darlene join Body Rock?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

She works at the hospital. She's got shit going on.

[Alison Brie]

And there's some great ADR done in the hospital scene replacing Fuck, I believe. Screw.

[Paul Scheer]

They had to get this down to a PG 13 or PG. I think I have that. That scene in the hospital, which is a great one. Here. Here we go.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Darlene, are you gonna have a break soon?

[Paul Scheer]

I need to talk to you.

[Alison Brie]

Why don't you just go talk to your little freak?

[Paul Scheer]

What little freak?

[Alison Brie]

What a rich girl.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

What rich girl?

[Alison Brie]

The blonde.

[Paul Scheer]

Chili.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

How do you know about Claire?

[Alison Brie]

That's it. Just go and talk to Claire, Darlene.

[Paul Scheer]

That ain't no big thing.

[Alison Brie]

You know, I think that's your problem. We don't even really talk. You just screw.

[June Diane Raphael]

Basically.

[Alison Brie]

Why don't you just go screw her and talk to yourself?

[June Diane Raphael]

You know?

[Alison Brie]

Or if that doesn't do it for you. Why don't you just go talk to her and go screw yourself?

[Paul Scheer]

Three. Three, screw yourselves. And then she really came around just because he grabbed her off stage. I mean, why did she come around?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Why do any of them take him back any time? He never owns his selfish mistakes. He never apologizes. There is nothing about his actions that. That tell me he deserves. He literally is thrown out of the. Anyway, whatever. But, like, he jumps down out of the rafters and is like, I'm here. And everybody's like, what? We love him now? And it's like, no, he's a villain. I'm pretty sure Chilli is a villain for all of you. He's hurt all of your lives. They're like, you get in, and then you can bring us all up. And he's like, yes. And then he brings nobody up.

[June Diane Raphael]

Every single person.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Then he takes the victory for himself and is like, but I'm gonna pull everybody up. And everybody's like, all right, I'm in.

[June Diane Raphael]

Never remember to put them on a list. That's the. Literally the least he can do.

[Paul Scheer]

But by the way, let's talk about this list for a club, because what is this club?

[June Diane Raphael]

No idea.

[Paul Scheer]

This is, like, Sleep no More style dance numbers that I don't know where the stage is at certain points.

[Alison Brie]

This is the largest club that has ever existed. At one point, they go up a giant escalator to another floor, and then in their. They're, like, in a private area of the club that's also the size of.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Two stages and the stage where they do the dance routines. They don't have dancers, like, on stage dancing to music. They have, like, performance pieces in black light with, like, tunnels and tubes.

[Paul Scheer]

But that's what I'm saying. Like, where's his audience? Are you chasing it? Like, Sleep no More? You running around following the dancing? Because he literally walks into a tunnel. The crowd is, hey, it's chilly. Then he runs down a tunnel. And then the dance numbers are. He's like, well, where did he go? Like, that's the club. That would be like, if I just ran backstage and, like, I'm doing the podcast and it ran out to the parking lot. It would not. It would be upsetting to you.

[June Diane Raphael]

Now, listen, would I like to go to a club like that? Yeah, I would.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I liked. I did, like, the giant boombox, like, set design I thought was terrific.

[June Diane Raphael]

There is some real, you know, stage value and performance happening. I've never seen anything like it.

[Paul Scheer]

How much are they flipping it? Like, how many days is the giant boombox there? And they're. Well, we got a new. New thing. Mummies. Great.

[Alison Brie]

I would like to believe that every night is a new theme, completely new performance. Like, they're putting a lot of work in.

[June Diane Raphael]

Listen, the one performance I really loved was the skeleton piece.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes.

[June Diane Raphael]

That. I thought it was pretty cool.

[Paul Scheer]

Amazing.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I agree 100%.

[Alison Brie]

Himself didn't contribute much to it.

[June Diane Raphael]

Not a thing.

[Paul Scheer]

No.

[Alison Brie]

As a matter of fact, it was a place.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. Like. Well, the director of this movie is a music video director. As a matter of fact, this is the only movie he ever directed.

[Alison Brie]

And now it all makes sense.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Come on. Are you serious?

[Paul Scheer]

You know, and he directed videos for Bon Jovi and Motley Crue, so I believe that he did capture the dancing well. And probably is the reason why the movie opens with two back to back musical numbers without any dialogue. A very bold move not to introduce your characters until you're about seven or eight minutes into the film talking about all the negative stuff about Chili. We can be here all day, but there's one person that we love. I think we all love. Magic.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Magic.

[Alison Brie]

I knew you were gonna say Magic. And I would argue, Jason, that this. This is where we see the redeeming side of Chili in his friendship with a young child.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Okay. Or you could argue that he is stealing Magic's talent, passing it off as his own to marginalize Magic signature moves.

[Alison Brie]

He only teaches him the easy stuff, the basic stuff.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's true. That's true.

[June Diane Raphael]

This is what's so weird about Terrence and the other investor.

[Alison Brie]

Oh, Donald, Donald, Donald. Don't do drugs in here, Donald. Just don't do drugs in here, Donald.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'm certain that character is based on Donald Trump.

[June Diane Raphael]

Okay. Because Donald fascinates me. And we could be here all night to just discuss Donald. But what's so interesting is that they're not interested in magic. Like, why show and not want only Magic out of everything they do?

[Paul Scheer]

Now, here's my thought about that. Because when they go to see him at the breakdancing club, Magic's brothers are seemingly in, and I'm gonna say a biker gang, because they are dressed like biker gang people, and they're so into their little brother Magic, they're just bouncing the bottles on the bar and then they break. And when they break those bottles, they go immediately into a handshake. And I think that that frightened those guys off. They're like, oh, they broke those bottles.

[Alison Brie]

These people are too rowdy. We gotta go. Yeah, I have a quick point. To make. Now that you brought up of the slamming down of those bottles and first performance, which was really my only problem with the movie. For a movie about music and dancing, is it.

[Paul Scheer]

Dancing?

[Alison Brie]

No. It was especially lacking in rhythm. People are offbeat all the time. So much of this movie all the time. Most notably Chilli, the first time he tries to rap and introduce the Body Rock Crew, it's so off. And I would argue that those guys are also slightly offbeat as they're trying to clang along.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, I mean, the rapping in this movie is amazing. I would like to play that. The first one, the second rap one. Cause I feel like that's where he's kind of like. Where he's like. Yeah. Where he's. Yeah, Sorry. Where he's introducing the crew. Here we go. Raise your hands up high and shout it out loud and say yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I say yeah. Say oh, yeah. Hell, yeah. Hell, yeah. And now I'm going to introduce to you another member of the Body Rock Crew. He's been with us since he was 17. He's lean, he's mean.

[Paul Scheer]

He's a rock machine. I'm going to pause it for two seconds just to break down these first two performances.

[Alison Brie]

So, Chilli, thoughts again, not on beat. What.

[June Diane Raphael]

What happened to me? This is what it reads as. Like, I've done my share of musical theater. Not to brag.

[Paul Scheer]

June, you were. What? What did you do? Name the roles.

[June Diane Raphael]

I did Sweet Charity. I did Fiddler on the Roof.

[Paul Scheer]

Great.

[June Diane Raphael]

You need more.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Can we get a taste? Can we get a taste?

[June Diane Raphael]

Well, what I was gonna say. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. Is that the time Place? But I will say there's something called a marking rehearsal, which is like, I'm gonna give nothing. Like, I'm gonna give you nothing right now. And I'm gonna mark. I'm gonna, like, walk the. Walk the beats. Here I go. Seven and eight.

[Paul Scheer]

You haven't lost a step.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yes. But it's like, it's. I mean, I could do better than that. That's.

[Paul Scheer]

You were marking.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It's a marking.

[June Diane Raphael]

The marking rehearsal is just like, let's just get our marks. Let's go through the motions of what this is going to look like. That's what this is. This is just a marking. It's like, oh, these are the words. This is sort of the rhythm. And we're gonna.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Even if it is, it's unsuccessful.

[June Diane Raphael]

Totally. But that's all. This is the finished product, though. Like, this is where they said. Got it. Moving on.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes.

[June Diane Raphael]

Like.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like the one where Lorenzo Lamas is never on beat. And the guy that comes in second is not on mic.

[Paul Scheer]

Never.

[Alison Brie]

Yes. The guy who comes in second, who actually can rap and is seemingly doing something amazing. I can't hear a word he's saying. I have no idea what's happening.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, I would also argue here that this whole movie feels like they're like, who could we get? They went through a list of names. They landed on Lorenzo Lamas. And he's like, but I don't break dance and I don't rap. And they're like, don't worry about it.

[June Diane Raphael]

We're gonna do it for you.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

We're gonna write and surround you with those people.

[Paul Scheer]

We will make you look good. We'll do it all. And then. And then he gets to the scene, he's like, you know, I just feel uncomfortable. I feel uncomfortable committing. He's like, don't just talk it. Just talk it. Be like the rock and Moana. Just get through that song. Just do it. And by the way, I like that song a lot.

[June Diane Raphael]

I like it a lot.

[Paul Scheer]

But it's a good song. But it's like, just like, let's do that. And like. And. But you can't, like, talk through rap. Then it's talking.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, it's also difficult. It's also difficult because they do try and surround him with people that can sing, that can dance, that can rap and whatever. But the narrative of the movie is that he becomes inexplicably the star, having proven his value to be literally zero.

[Alison Brie]

And they point it out like he. Even his friend at the beginning is like, what are you gonna do? They make a big point of how he can do nothing. And after two minutes of this performance, the people are like, he's our guy. Nobody. I see nothing else. That's the guy who's gonna headline our club.

[Paul Scheer]

You are a goddamn idiot if you can't think that Magic is the one. Like, take Magic.

[Alison Brie]

Take his little butt on the ground.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But then we are. You almost have to be, though, that this movie is about basically white people taking black culture and saying the white guy is the person that we will take. We won't take any of the minorities in his crew, even though he's a garbage monster. We need the guy in our place. Place to be white for all the white patrons.

[Paul Scheer]

By the way, it's a very white break dancing crew. I mean, Magic is the only.

[Alison Brie]

Yeah, there's a guy I like to call White Luigi, but. And maybe that is not PC either, but he just has, like a spoof. Of curly hair and a big mustache. And he always looks like he's dressed like a plumber, but with a midriff and a scarf around his neck. And he does a lot of arms and shoulders.

[Paul Scheer]

Very good dancer, that guy. I want to talk about the guy that was not on mic that we talked about here. His rapping is like, I'm rippity rappity, rippity bop, rippity bibbity. Like, it's. He's not saying words and he's not rapping so fast that he's like. It's not like Eminem where he's just like nailing that lyrics.

[Alison Brie]

Is he not saying actual words? No wonder I couldn't understand him. You thought he was great.

[Paul Scheer]

He was saying like, ribbity, ribbity rap. Like, here, let's take a listen again. Here, Go.

[June Diane Raphael]

Stop saying Rudy.

[Paul Scheer]

In the beginning. It's.

[Alison Brie]

Then he runs out of steam and just slows way down.

[Paul Scheer]

I mean, yeah, I would love it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I would love it if one of our listeners would transcribe this song and do it and do it as a. Like a plaintive folk ballad. That and Vanishing Boys, which is awesome.

[Paul Scheer]

Not mad at the music in this movie.

[Alison Brie]

I loved a lot of the music or the dancing. It must be said, the breakdancers in the first sequence are awesome. The skeleton dancers are great when they.

[Paul Scheer]

Do that camera underneath the break dancers. Like, I guess they were on a glass floor or something. That was pretty. I thought that was pretty cool.

[Alison Brie]

And then they do an overhead shot of just people helicopting their legs in slow mo for too long.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Guys, I'm not gonna lie. I took breakdance lessons at the ymca.

[Alison Brie]

Bury the lead.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, I had like, we would sit in my house and I would put down cardboard and I would watch Magnum PI and I would practice breakdancing moves. I would break dance in fifth and sixth grade in the hall at my elementary school. We would all break dance. We would break dance at bar and bat mitzvahs. It was hot.

[June Diane Raphael]

Okay.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'm a full little Greek boy mustache, Miami Vice style clothes at a bar mitzvah. Breakdancing.

[Paul Scheer]

Do you remember any of those moves?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, no, not at all.

[June Diane Raphael]

I'm going to say something and you might be.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I would get hurt immediately.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. Yeah.

[June Diane Raphael]

So I'm not a huge fan of the form break dancing.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Wow. Okay, cool.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, you were.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I mean. You mean my art form?

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Do you mean my craft? Okay, interesting. Go ahead.

[June Diane Raphael]

I guess I'm curious.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like, please continue.

[Alison Brie]

Well, I will, I will.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, for the record, I hate musicals.

[Alison Brie]

That's fine.

[June Diane Raphael]

That's fine. I just feel like I'm curious what happened in those classes, because to me, I always think, like, it's just. Just a bunch of gobbledygook.

[Paul Scheer]

Wait. The dancing of breakdancing.

[June Diane Raphael]

Breakdancing.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'm like, no, there's like.

[June Diane Raphael]

Maybe this is something terrible, I'm saying.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Right now, but there's, like, real technique and craft.

[Alison Brie]

Guys, as someone who I mentioned earlier recently learned to break dance for season two of Glow. It does actually take quite a bit of skill, June. I feel like there's a lot of isolation. Body part I. Isolation and fluidity. Should I do the worm?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes. You. You think that's gobbledygook? You think this Danny McBride is doing gobbledygook?

[June Diane Raphael]

I do.

[Alison Brie]

I do.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You think that's gobbledygook? Danny McBride. Stone cold crushing.

[June Diane Raphael]

Here's the thing. I feel like if I got myself into a state. If I got myself worked up.

[Paul Scheer]

Wait, are you. Are you saying, like, you believe.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

June. Challenge accepted, New York City. Bring your best. When we're there, break off.

[June Diane Raphael]

I. I could get there.

[Paul Scheer]

June, are you saying with no practice. Wait, are you saying with no practice.

[June Diane Raphael]

No practice.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

We are gonna battle so hard.

[Paul Scheer]

Wait, let me ask you this. So do you think that what was happening in Wild, Wild country was breakdancing? Like, they get so into.

[Alison Brie]

An excellent question.

[June Diane Raphael]

They got worked up into a state. A state.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Where you can't help but, like, pop.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yes, pop. And go and lock.

[Paul Scheer]

How dare you?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

How dare you.

[June Diane Raphael]

I'm not worried. I could do it.

[Paul Scheer]

How, June, did you. We are gonna battle it dismissively goes. I could do that.

[Alison Brie]

I could.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

All I know is that when we're next to New York, I want DJs, I want rappers, and I want two squares of linoleum.

[Paul Scheer]

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[Jason Mantzoukas]

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[Paul Scheer]

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[Paul Scheer]

Say we did talk a little bit about the music before. It's worth mentioning that the theme song peaked at number 48 on the Hot 100 chart and and Lorenzo Lamas also got on the Billboard 100 chart for the track. Fools Like Me Both got in there in 1984. People.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That is very depressing.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Alison Brie]

And I.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

1984? Is that when this came out?

[Paul Scheer]

Yes, this movie came out in 1984. The same year breakin.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yep. Breakin two, electric boogaloo, beat street and.

[Paul Scheer]

Body Rock came out. But here's an interesting thing. Breakin and Break in two same year.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Alison Brie]

Wow.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I remember I had the Beat street record that had a pull out poster of breakdance moves in the record. Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

I mean Breakin two was my. I love that movie. Oh yeah, that was the best.

[June Diane Raphael]

But there are no real moves, are there?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Wow.

[Paul Scheer]

Wait, what did you say?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Wow.

[Paul Scheer]

What did you say?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Wow. Reddit. Reddit. Let's get this go.

[June Diane Raphael]

I don't feel like there are moves. You just get out there you go and whatever happens happens.

[Alison Brie]

June, you couldn't say the same.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Couldn't you say the same about Merce Cunningham? Couldn't you say the same? He's just starting and going. It looks like gobbledygook. I'm looking at you, Martha Graham. I'm looking at you, Twyla Tharp. I'm looking at you.

[June Diane Raphael]

Is that type of modern dance? No, no, no. That type of modern dance, like I don't think I could do successfully. I think I could do this.

[Paul Scheer]

All right. I am pulling up super Dancer. One of the best break dancers according to YouTube. Let's see if you feel the same way about.

[June Diane Raphael]

Okay.

[Alison Brie]

All right.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I will say I'm gonna. I will say those are the moves I learned at the ymca.

[June Diane Raphael]

All right, so I'm gonna make a quick disclaimer.

[Alison Brie]

So.

[June Diane Raphael]

I think that I can do the breakdancing moves in body rock.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes, Yes.

[June Diane Raphael]

I think I could do those easily.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, man. Well, I can't wait till we have.

[Paul Scheer]

A break off with any. You know what, June? I think you suffered the same fate as Chili. You've saw the easy route of breakdancing and the fame went to your head. And you know what's next gonna be? You're gonna say, like, you want a cup of Folgers? When Chili is seen being his most, like, dickish, he's like, cup of Folgers would be tight.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And you know that that's. That's the exact same line his mother says to him earlier in the movie. There's a number of instances where Chilli says lines that other people have said to him throughout the movie. So when she's watching tv, she says, a cup of Folgers would be nice. And then he says it later.

[Alison Brie]

Can we just talk about that whole sequence after Chilli has sex with Sheila from A Chorus Line?

[Paul Scheer]

And that sex scene I wanted. Can we even get break in the air?

[Alison Brie]

We can start with the sex scene, and then we definitely have to talk about his walking down the street and look. And speaking straight to the camera.

[June Diane Raphael]

Whoa.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, whoa. That was crazy. His leather jacket, like, strut. Like, I was like. I read online that he ripped 25 collars off of that jacket from popping it so hard. Well, he popped the collar every cut.

[Paul Scheer]

Let's listen to the post sex trench coat. Well, you. I don't even know what the this is.

[Alison Brie]

What is this?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It's. Apparently it's a very popular cut in Europe right now. He says, I thought, oh, I'm not.

[Paul Scheer]

Saying, what is the outfit? I'm saying, what is this sequence where he starts straight up Ferris Buellering, the movie?

[Alison Brie]

I thought it was like a commercial break in the middle of the movie. I was like, oh, yeah, this is like a 1984.

[Paul Scheer]

It made me uncomfortable. I was like, don't talk to me.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Can he see us?

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. It's like when you make eye contact.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

With a performer, like, does he know I'm jerking off?

[Paul Scheer]

All right.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Just at the number of popping of the collars. Love it.

[Paul Scheer]

It's not a commercial. You think it's a commercial. You it doesn't make any sense of what this is.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It could end with. So come on down to Wilson Leather. And I'd be like, cool, man. I will.

[Paul Scheer]

The. The only leather that will strand 20 pops of your collar, guaranteed.

[Alison Brie]

I like to think that the director was really. That was his super creative moment. Like, we'll get him through the window of the car as it rolls down and like, you know, down from the fire escape.

[Paul Scheer]

Very artistic. I mean, and that's the thing about this director. I feel like the angles are very music video, but the putting it together as a movie is where it got fishy.

[Alison Brie]

Yes, yes.

[Paul Scheer]

Like, by the way, I do like the art. Like, when he's with the, you know, the. This woman, this. She's an artist. Like, her apartment, I just noticed in the background is a paint platform as their bed. Like, it's something that you would build to like, paint, like a ceiling. It's like a paint platform. And like. And that's the bed. It's in the corner. I was like, cool, man. She's an artist. She sleeps on a high. A high level plain paint platform. And also him smoking weed seems so, like, really taking it in. But this sex scene, so they, you know, this is.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You know, the zippers, the pointless zippers.

[Paul Scheer]

So many zippers. He's like enveloping her, like, tweaking her.

[Alison Brie]

She unzips the double boob zipper. The infamous.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Sexual move that is to unzip her breast pockets while, like, she's. And then when they.

[Alison Brie]

She has to unzip the main jacket herself. Cause he did nothing.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Also, I'm just. I'm just now noticing. Are the windows painted that way?

[Paul Scheer]

That's what I'm saying. She's an artist.

[Alison Brie]

There's art everywhere.

[Paul Scheer]

She can't stop. So they're like having sex, dancing. And then he takes off.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

This is weird.

[Alison Brie]

He's immediately naked.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He's in like a jumpsuit that he only half takes off, but he definitely.

[June Diane Raphael]

Is not wearing underwear.

[Paul Scheer]

No underwear. And it's a rough scene. It was a rough scene for me to watch the 15 times I saw it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

This, I. This is like. This is what sex is, right?

[Alison Brie]

Yeah. Don't you just wave your arms?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Just lots of waves.

[Alison Brie]

Make a couple of squiggly lines.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And then lowering her to the floor.

[Alison Brie]

And then standing and looking off into the distance.

[June Diane Raphael]

I mean, he really also presents his body. She still has her clothes on. And he's, you know, he's completely naked.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, yeah. And with a massive heart on.

[June Diane Raphael]

Oh, totally.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And massive.

[June Diane Raphael]

Paul.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Massive all right, man. Be cool.

[Paul Scheer]

Massive.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, and he's just got this rock hard horse cock. Oh, okay. Shear. What's up?

[Paul Scheer]

I say. I say. I say massive because I don't believe that Chili is ever not erect.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Okay.

[June Diane Raphael]

Wow.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Paul, I'd like to see the rest of your nose notebook pages, please.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, they're. You can. Mr. Paul.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Mr. Paul. Chili.

[Paul Scheer]

Some drawings of, like, different pants and just things. And then there's. I don't know, there's some. I mean, this is like. Yeah, I mean, some hypothesis of what, like, Chili's cock and balls look like.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, man. Chili's got those cum gutters with his massive hard on. Tm. Paul Scheer.

[Paul Scheer]

I did. I do have a. I did, like, kind of a thought of what a cock ring would look good on Chili. Like, different cock rings.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, you know, he's got that big, thick, veiny cock. Chili.

[Paul Scheer]

I'll let the people from London take a look at it. They can verify. Okay.

[June Diane Raphael]

June.

[Paul Scheer]

So june. I'm a. June's gone now.

[Alison Brie]

In a lot of ways it seems like maybe she's just Donald's whore, but I would argue.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Okay.

[Paul Scheer]

And you know Donald's cock, by the way, not as massive as Chili's.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah. Oh, Paul, did you want to run down your cock list size for the.

[Paul Scheer]

Guys in the movie? Great cock. Easy. Excellent cock. Terrence, not so great. But he knows how to use it. Jamma works for him. And then, of course, Snake. Of course.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, man.

[June Diane Raphael]

Listen, I do believe that Claire. I don't think she's a kept woman. I don't know, though. I mean, I did, you know, when she's working out the moonwalk in her apartment, I did feel like she is leading a creative life. And there was something. And she's partying and I was very interested in that lifestyle.

[Alison Brie]

Look, you didn't let me finish. I'm sorry. I would argue that she is actually in a power position with Donald and Terrence more than anyone. She's like the one who gets this amazing performance at the end. They seemingly give her whatever she wants. And I would like to say that her performance at the end of the movie is so much better than anything chilli ever does. And they're watching and they're like, she's ripping off Chili. I was like, is she.

[June Diane Raphael]

Oh, God.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Let her do it. Because she. She's good.

[June Diane Raphael]

She's covering Smooth Talker or whatever the fuck that song was. And it is so much better.

[Alison Brie]

It's so good. It seems like a different song and she's Doing, like, she can't do the breakdancing. She's just doing amazing dancing. I loved her.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, let's see what you all thought about this film. We'll go out here for the newly titled segment of the show, Double Takes. This is your double take moment here. All right, sir, your breakdancing name and your question. I think probably just, like, privileged, untalented white guy. That would be your breakdancing name. Yeah, I'd go by it. I was constantly confused by the ages of all these characters in the movie.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like, I feel like it opens and they're doing, like, the, like, what high schoolers would do. They're, like, tagging this thing. And then later. And then they're running around with a child. And later it's revealed that, like, she's.

[Paul Scheer]

A doctor, which makes no sense.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like, how old are you?

[June Diane Raphael]

And also, like, is Claire 30 or 80? Like, I have no idea.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Regardless, she looks great.

[June Diane Raphael]

Looks great.

[Alison Brie]

She looks great.

[Paul Scheer]

Anybody over here? Anybody over here? All right, let's go. Here you come. Here. Come on. All right.

[June Diane Raphael]

From the middle of the aisle, is Darlene a doctor? A full doctor?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

No.

[Alison Brie]

She would have thought she was a nurse or just, like, a clerk.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah, I thought her work was more administrative.

[Alison Brie]

Yeah, that's a better way to say it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Most at this point, I feel like she's maybe an RN.

[Paul Scheer]

Ma'. Am.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Maybe she's an RN.

[June Diane Raphael]

Well, an RN's a very, like, important position. You said at the most. I mean, RN is. That's.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'm not trying to take away apologies to.

[Paul Scheer]

My mother was an rn.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yes. Be a registered nurse is no fucking joke. The amount of medical training that she's probably.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Then she's probably a doctor. I don't know.

[Paul Scheer]

All right, ma', am, your breakdancing name and your question.

[June Diane Raphael]

Well, I feel like now it has to be, like, Dr. Break or something. But I didn't understand why they couldn't get in. Like, his friends couldn't get in. But then in the final scene, all his friends are in the club. No idea on the list, but why.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Assume Magic put them all on the list?

[Alison Brie]

So at the end, it was, like, a huge event, Right, that Magic tells him about. And I also was confused as to why that's happening at Terrence's club.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It's because it was Chilli's idea.

[Alison Brie]

Oh, it was his idea.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Chilli had the idea to have, like, a. What's it called?

[June Diane Raphael]

Extravaganza.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Rapstravaganza. That they then.

[Alison Brie]

That's right.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That they then decided to do but then they kicked Chilli out, but they did it anyway.

[Alison Brie]

Can I also say in that moment, no one's gonna care about this, but you know, Donald, the character doesn't really speak the whole movie, even though he's like this all powerful guy, which I kind of was like, hey, Terrence, maybe you could have mentioned, like, that's who that old guy was that was hanging out. And until the very end of the movie when they're like, get him out of here. And his voice is like, what? He has the highest. That's not what I was expecting. Maybe they cut all his lines because.

[Paul Scheer]

But by the way, they keep that dignified. They keep that stare down between Chili and Donald. Like, I was like, wow, this is still going on.

[Alison Brie]

Also, Donald is always in a tuxedo. He's never not.

[June Diane Raphael]

How else would we know he was rich?

[Alison Brie]

That's true.

[Paul Scheer]

Sir, you're breakdancing.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Name?

[Paul Scheer]

Your question? My breakfast name would be Killawatt. Great. My question?

[June Diane Raphael]

No further questions.

[Paul Scheer]

I don't know if June is a child labor expert, but I was concerned about Magic working at the club late at night and his Supervisor is his.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

10 year old sister.

[Paul Scheer]

Good question.

[June Diane Raphael]

So Magic's age too, though, was in question to me because there were certain shots where I was like, oh, he's nine. And then there were other shots of him where I was like, is he 18? Like, I wasn't totally sure how old Magic look.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I think probably closer to nine.

[June Diane Raphael]

Really?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I would say like 12. Like, I would put him at like.

[June Diane Raphael]

You know, like, he looked great for his age.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, he looked terrific. I think we all agree Magic looked great.

[June Diane Raphael]

He looked great.

[Paul Scheer]

Sir, your breakdancing. Name? Your question. Super white.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And.

[Paul Scheer]

There were so many lines of.

[Alison Brie]

Dialogue in this movie that were completely.

[Paul Scheer]

Unintelligible and not just like.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Not pointless ones.

[Paul Scheer]

Like you can't hear intimately. He's intimately, like in there, face to face with his girlfriend.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He's like, hey, girl, Cut scene.

[Paul Scheer]

I agree with you. There is a lot of bad sound recording. It's the only movie that I noticed rain on a camera lens ever. When they're walking on the docks, they're like, there's rain on the lens. Never seen that.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

There's also terrible lighting in, like, the last half of the movie. The last third of the movie has, like, occurs mostly in just dark.

[June Diane Raphael]

There are so many times I watched this on my computer where I kept on, like, trying to get the brightness up and I was already at max.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, again, we can't fault the transfer because if this Was never the proper 4K treatment that we all want.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Listen, I'm watching it in 240p on a fucking YouTube window just like put a bullet in my head. Not only do I have to watch this piece of shit, I have to watch it in low res.

[Alison Brie]

What, Twice?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And they made me.

[Alison Brie]

They're making me do it twice.

[June Diane Raphael]

That's crazy.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

On a dial up modem.

[Paul Scheer]

All right, ma', am, your breakdancing name and your question.

[June Diane Raphael]

Chili's Parenthetical. Actually the restaurant. So little Luigi is actually Renee Elizondo, who is married to Janet Jackson on the down low. And I'm wondering if his association.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Allegedly, Allegedly.

[Paul Scheer]

Allegedly.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

If his association with this movie was.

[June Diane Raphael]

Enough to keep it down and buried under.

[Paul Scheer]

Or is the reason why they're together because he was in this movie? I mean, yeah, it's Marrying into body rock is a very rare thing. All right. Yes, sir. Your breakdancing name. Your question. Breakdancing name is just a lot of shoulders.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And question. And I think the answer is yes.

[Paul Scheer]

Do you think working on this movie might make someone want to change their career path? Fair question.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Do you know something we don't?

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, hold on. I posit that the director, Director, photographer of this movie, saw a business owner using his power abusing it for sexual gain, changed his career path from DP to federal prosecutor. Because the director of photography of this movie is called Robert Mueller. Amazing.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It's a long walk.

[Paul Scheer]

Wow. It's a long walk.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I don't know. They seem to have appreciated it. It a medium on it.

[Paul Scheer]

That is good work to find out the dp. You know, we mentioned a rap Stravagan.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But you said it's Robert Mueller, not Robert Mueller.

[Paul Scheer]

There's an. He said there was an UMLA in the opening credits. It could have also just been the way it buffered. It may not have been an uml. The tagline of this movie was a rapstravaganza movie with dynamic music. Exclamation point, spectacular dance sequences. Exclamation point. That is the tagline. So if you were to rent Body Rock or see it. 48% on rotten tomatoes. Not that bad.

[Alison Brie]

Not bad.

[Paul Scheer]

Not bad.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

For a movie that's essentially impossible to find in high res. I'm amazed.

[Paul Scheer]

Budget. We don't know. Opening weekend, though. In 1984, it made $630,000 and the domestic gross was 1.6 million. Which based on everything I'm seeing, I feel like that was a success.

[June Diane Raphael]

Huge.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

If you told me it cost them $18,000 to make this movie, I would believe you. Well, a lot of it appears to just be B roll that they stole of them walking on the streets of New York.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, now, here is something interesting. So the top three movies of 1984. Beverly Hills Cop, Ghostbusters, Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom. This movie came in. Oh, this movie was beat by Rhinestone, Streets of Fire and Runaway. The things that we've done in this show. And it beat nothing. So maybe it was a little bit lower. Yeah, so that's what we know about. Those are the stats of Body Rock. But you know what? We certainly had an opinion about this movie, but we don't have the only opinion. It is now time for second opinions.

[Alison Brie]

I watch movies and it's all I can do on Amazon. I read all the reviews. These films are awesome.

[June Diane Raphael]

I want to tell you all what I thought.

[Alison Brie]

Five stars is all I got. Second opinions. Don't you want to read my Amazon reviews? Second opinions. Don't let it slip away. Second opinions. I only want to share them with you. You might agree with me today.

[Paul Scheer]

Give it up for trish.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Give it up for trish. Yeah, trish.

[Paul Scheer]

Killing it. Great job, trish. You have the best audience in the house. People out here in costume. You guys are in costume out there. Great costumes. I love it. Very rarely do we get get people in full costumes. Do you have some chest hair person out there too?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

What's on your back? Stand up. Turn around.

[Paul Scheer]

Whoa. It says chili.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He's got a chili jacket.

[Alison Brie]

He disseded a number of costumes.

[Paul Scheer]

He's got a chili. That jacket's actually very big in London right now.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Can I ask you a question? Are you prepared to break dance?

[Paul Scheer]

No, he cannot break this. But neither can Lorenzo Lamas.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I was gonna give you a shot. I was gonna give you your shot, man. You your one shot to make it in the biz of breaking.

[Paul Scheer]

We gotta bring you up here. When we take pictures at the end. Just have you facing your. Yeah, we gotta see that jacket. All right, so here's the thing, people. This movie is hard to find, right? So Amazon is not full of reviews. And the ones that were five stars are clearly facetious. You know, so, you know, then they get like, you know, then they get really angry too. It's like, you know, from like Peter O7 who titles his review Llamas is an idiot or Nose who Just a doctor knows who says Body Yuck. So not. Not really. Not really a great world there for that. But I do have a review that I pulled from IMDb. So this one is pretty great and it's one a little bit longer than most. But we can stop and start in the fine tradition of early hip hop culture films such as Rappin Breakin, Breakin 2, Beat Street, Wild Style, Style wars, not to mention Mixed Blood, Alphabet City and even Gloria. Although definitely more akin to the first four films mentioned, Body Rock is more than a worthy companion to those well known films. Chilly D is a kid question mark from the New York streets who doesn't have a lot of money, but he has a big dream. To make it big with his crew of dancers and rappers. The Body Rock Crew. Through some streetwise tenacity as well as a Lucky Breaker 2 Chili Cheese's Dream. But at what cost? He stops keeping it real and starts spending all of his time with these uptown snobs. Forgetting his downtown roots, he even moves out of his old neighborhood and into a ritzy loft with his new snobby lady, causing a rift between him and his true love. Not to mention alienating the entirety of his once beloved Body Rock crew. Will Chilly lose his soul and become a sellout? Or will he connect with his room and pop and lock his way into glory? Everything about Body Rock is great. The music is infectious, toe tapping and fun, assuming you don't jump out of your seat and start breaking right there on the floor. Which actually, maybe because there wasn't a whole bunch of rap music at the time, encompasses a wide variety of genre. There's rap, dance, new wave and even power pop representation. And then it goes on to talk about the fashions and then the dancing. And it goes. The little boy magic gets some great moves off and is very charming, especially when he's teaching Chili how to dance. Including the fan favorite Sit Down Dance. Also, the dancer in Chili's crew that looks like Reno911's Thomas Lennon gives it all he's got and proves once and for all you could be a middle age white guy with a wife and kids and a mustache and still laid down some funking moves. And then it says New York. This review is 3 pages and it's we're on the last page. It's broken down to sections. The sections that I just read were music, fashion and now we're on New York City locations keeping it street. There are a lot of New York locations that capture all in their 80s glory. And it says you can even see billboards 4 Romancing the Stone playing in Times Square. Great. And then, okay then this is the final line here from the opening of the film. When the Body Rock crew are dancing their way across the street. To the spray painting of the subway cars, to the dance sequences, to the training sequences, to Chilli's downfall where it becomes a pot smoking low life. To the final rapstravaganza, which is basically the whole movie. You can't just say 2, 2, 2, 2, 2. You can be like from the beginning of the movie when Indiana Jones finds that thing, to when he goes back to school, to the moment where he goes. Finds the other thing to when he goes over here. That's the movie. You've just described the movie. It's awesome. Especially if you're an 80s freak like me. You will have a lot to feast on with the underrated body rock. Don't just watch it tonight. Live it tonight. Whoa. Five stars.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's great life advice.

[Paul Scheer]

That is creatively adding a backstory for the man with the mustache. We don't know that he's married with kids, right?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, we don't know.

[Paul Scheer]

Maybe. Maybe there's a line that we don't know.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Wow. Are you mad, Allie? Are you mad at me?

[Alison Brie]

I'm fine.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

What? Oh, God. Are you sure you're okay?

[Alison Brie]

Everything.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, no.

[Paul Scheer]

Final thoughts? Final thoughts? Anyone? Any final thoughts on things we have not covered? Things you wanted to talk about that we didn't get a chance to.

[Alison Brie]

I just want to say that in the second song, this sounds like something very specific to say as a final thought. Yes, but it's been on my mind, of course. Speak your truth. That the movie starts with the body Rock song and then it goes into a song about graffiti and they reference Shakespeare and Moses.

[Paul Scheer]

I wrote that down.

[Alison Brie]

And the line about Shakespeare is, have you heard about Shakespeare? He wrote a lot of good stuff.

[Paul Scheer]

It says, brother Moses was all right. He wrote some good stuff. They rhyme good stuff with good stuff. Yeah. That was great.

[Alison Brie]

That's my final thought.

[Paul Scheer]

That's a great one. A great one indeed. June, Anything?

[June Diane Raphael]

I mean, I know I've said some things about the form of breakdancing tonight. In thinking about it further and like having a couple minutes to reflect on it, I feel like I want to amend my statement from before, from earlier. I think we, with the exception of Magic's moves in this film, I could do the rest of the breakthrough. I just want to make that clear.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

So Magic is a real dancer and everybody else is just doing gobbledygook.

[June Diane Raphael]

Gobbledygook. And if I was stated, four limb gobbledygook. If I got myself into the right state.

[Paul Scheer]

You have to go to Wild, wild country. Get in that zone.

[June Diane Raphael]

If I got worked up enough, I could do it. Jason, with the exception of math, you.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Know, this was a real roller coaster for me. You know, it really. It hit a lot of my nostalgia buttons just from my old breakin days, you know? You know, I feel like I came here and had my first. What I would consider my first art form maligned by one of my dearest friends.

[June Diane Raphael]

And I want to say something. I want to speak. Cause I do. What I feel badly about is I do think that for a lot of little girls, they have so many outlets to dance. You know, they have jazz, they have ballet. And I feel like for boys, they don't have many outlets.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yep.

[June Diane Raphael]

And at the time you were coming of age, break dancing was a way for you to.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Was a way to express yourself. Express.

[June Diane Raphael]

I know.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

There I was, 12, 13 years old, wanting to express how. Artistically express how I felt and how I was engaging with the world and my tiny mustache and trying to.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah, I know.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Trying to figure out the way my body was changing.

[Paul Scheer]

And everyone at those bar and bat mitzvahs, Ugh.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Just trying to finger girls up behind the dumpsters, unsuccessfully, in a pink collared, not even collared shirt. It doesn't matter. There were espadrilles involved.

[Paul Scheer]

Guys.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Miami Vice was a thing.

[Alison Brie]

No, I know.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I also want to say that I have a correction in omission from something I said earlier. I said Bill Moses was a dancer. I think I meant Bill T. Jones.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, okay, great.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

There's that. Before I get a bunch of rapping.

[Paul Scheer]

On the street, I wanted to bring up one thing that I thought was interesting. At the end, when Chilli breaks into the club for the rapstravaganza, the audience in the club is all on board. They're clapping and cheering, and then the music stops. And then it's silent. And then his girlfriend, she does the one clap thing.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, the slow clap.

[Paul Scheer]

But you don't need a slow clap when the whole audience is on your side. Like, he didn't win them over.

[Alison Brie]

Well, because they cut out the music. This was like. Now the crowd was gonna create the beat. But I would like to. To point out again, offbeat. It was very offbeat. There were two different sets of claps. So she starts like, bah, bah, bah. And then other people are like. It was just like. So it turned into applause.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, I didn't realize that she was trying to start the beat.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, that's what I thought too. But it didn't matter because then it turned into give us back the music and break, which was the chant that the audience then starts doing to get Terrence to turn back the. Oh, God. Well, I'm gonna say. I don't know that I would recommend people watch this one.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, that was the question.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I was gonna segue right into it.

[June Diane Raphael]

Absolutely.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I would say not. I mean, I would definitely listen to the song Vanishing Boys on. On repeat, because I thought it was great.

[Alison Brie]

Or just the body rock theme. Body rock.

[Paul Scheer]

I may buy the soundtrack if I can find it. If there's a Spotify playlist, I might.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I would listen. Listen to this music and break dance around my house just because it's a valid form of expression. And, I mean, I would do the moves that I learned that are real moves.

[June Diane Raphael]

I mean, listen to me. It was always like, I'm gonna say something that's gonna be really harsh. But whenever I see someone breakdancing, I feel embarrassed for them. I do.

[Paul Scheer]

Did you feel embarrassed for that break dancer I just showed you?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Wow.

[Paul Scheer]

Did you feel embarrassed for that?

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah. I don't define what he was doing as breakdancing.

[Paul Scheer]

Okay. What is he doing?

[June Diane Raphael]

I define breakdancing as, like, getting on the floor like a turtle. Like a. Like you're a turtle that can't flip over and just spinning around.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

So you equate.

[Alison Brie]

It's harder than it looks.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You equate breakdancing with helplessness?

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I do.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'm stuck down here.

[June Diane Raphael]

I can't do that. I want to make this clear. It's not that I don't. You know, I'm not someone who loves, like, high art and ballet and all that stuff like this. I see where this is going, and I want to dispel that myth right away. Like, there's. I love where breakdancing came from and all that. I just. I find it unpleasant to watch.

[Paul Scheer]

So are you just saying, like, this type of break dancing. This is. I'm gonna play another.

[June Diane Raphael]

I could do that.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's cool.

[June Diane Raphael]

Look, I'm not gonna argue. There's a level of difficulty that is. Absolutely. Absolutely.

[Paul Scheer]

How is your breaking. How is your breaking in season two?

[Alison Brie]

It's not very good. And that's where I want to say that when you try to learn stuff like this, then you realize the value, because it's very difficult.

[June Diane Raphael]

Just because something is difficult doesn't mean that it's good.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, that's. Wow.

[Paul Scheer]

That's.

[Alison Brie]

And that's my opinion.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'm not going to lie. That's a T shirt.

[Paul Scheer]

You got three T shirts available now on T Public. Wow. All right. So I would recommend you do watch this movie. Boy, oh, boy. Wow. All right, let's get to plugs. Allison, what do you want to talk about? Anything.

[June Diane Raphael]

Oh.

[Alison Brie]

Glow Season 2, featuring me break dancing. A very small amount. All episodes on Netflix June 29th.

[Paul Scheer]

Very exciting. Very exciting. Very soon.

[June Diane Raphael]

That's very exciting. Well, Grace and Frankie Season 4 is on Netflix right now. No breakdancing.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I've got nothing to plug. But I do want to say Tom King, Mitch Jarrods, I see what you're doing out there. I don't like it. Get back to work. That's what I'm saying.

[Paul Scheer]

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[Jason Mantzoukas]

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