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Paul Scheer
Subject to change if Grease was a seminal movie about teens, the 50s and being cool, this movie is like its dumb brother who always has a hard on and talks about doing it. We saw Grease too so you know what that means.
Jason Mantzoukas
Now it's time for.
June Diane Raphael
Remake.
Paul Scheer
How did Schwarzenegger grove in Baby in his Belly? Rock a Ronstone vest while ripping Justin the Kelly or maybe see a burlesque show with Nate Crow and take a boat with speed to hittin cruise control J Man Big Paul in the Beautiful June gonna take you from the goob all the way to the room Ran the games of Street Fighter help to blow off steam Just a sucker punch the odd life of Timothy Green Sharknado the birdemic how we staying alive they call it in the badass and he's on the line cranking 88 minutes cause they cool as ice Cause the bad Jim Vonnie lookin kind and nice Paul and June gettin literal is getting laid June is making sure all the monkey shots getting paid they judge a bunch of movies while they making the grade Here's a real question for you. How did this get made? Yes. Hello, people of Earth, and welcome to a very special how did this get made? We are in the home of Anna Faris. We are in the studio of Unqualified. And I'm joined as always by my two co hosts, Jason Mantzoukas.
Jason Mantzoukas
Hey.
Paul Scheer
And June. Diane Rayfield. How are you, June?
June Diane Raphael
I'm great. How are you, Paul?
Jason Mantzoukas
Good.
Paul Scheer
It'd be weird if I said that our guest was not on a Ferris, but we were recording.
Jason Mantzoukas
And our guest is, guess what, Julia Roberts.
Paul Scheer
We are very excited to have you to talk about this movie. Because this movie, I mean, it falls in the tradition of great musical sequels like Miss Saigon 2.
Jason Mantzoukas
All Those more Chicago.
Paul Scheer
Hamilton 6. It's really good. And now just. I want to get it out of the way and just say there is someone in this room that knows every line to Grease two.
June Diane Raphael
Every single line.
Paul Scheer
Not me. Jason's you.
Jason Mantzoukas
It's not me. So shockingly, Anna's you.
Paul Scheer
Not me, June.
June Diane Raphael
It's me. And here's why.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, boy.
June Diane Raphael
So when I was growing up, my neighbors, the Shirrings had a VHS player and they had two tapes, Grease 1 and Grease 2.
Jason Mantzoukas
That's so funny. I have the same story. Yes. Wait a minute, hang on a second. No, I have the same story, except with Grease one because I'm a little older. The first people that I knew that had a vcr, they had two movies, same Grease one and Hooper.
Paul Scheer
Wow.
Jason Mantzoukas
The Burt Reynolds Jan Michael Vincent vehicle. Which I would like to now do on this show.
Anna Faris
Later on.
June Diane Raphael
Absolutely. And later on we got a VHS player and I immediately got Grease one, Grease two. And we also got the movie Regarding Henry.
Jason Mantzoukas
Okay.
Paul Scheer
The Harrison Ford movie gets shot in.
Jason Mantzoukas
The head that J.J. abrams wrote in college.
Paul Scheer
Yeah.
June Diane Raphael
Wow. So this movie, to me, is everything.
Paul Scheer
And you never saw Grease 1?
June Diane Raphael
No, I've seen Grease 1, but I mean, many, many times. By the way, I preferred Greece 2.
Jason Mantzoukas
Wow.
Anna Faris
I need to know. I know you're gonna give this to us, but why?
June Diane Raphael
Well, it's very hard because I feel like Greece 2, I was so obsessed with Michelle Pfeiffer in this movie. I was so obsessed with this cool.
Jason Mantzoukas
Lady this movie has.
Anna Faris
Can I tell you that you sort of. You look like.
June Diane Raphael
That's like the highest praise anyone.
Anna Faris
Michelle Pfeiffer Ever given me. I want you to, like, climb a ladder.
June Diane Raphael
Physically, where she kicks over her leg on the ladder.
Anna Faris
I want you to ride.
June Diane Raphael
Thrilling to me. I was so obsessed with her and I was so obsessed with her attitude and her. I mean, I felt like this movie is where I learned about life beyond third grade. I swear to God. Like, I studied it.
Jason Mantzoukas
I get what you get.
June Diane Raphael
I watched it a million times, but it's so.
Paul Scheer
It's so oddly based because I feel.
Jason Mantzoukas
Like it doesn't add up.
Paul Scheer
It's just.
June Diane Raphael
Well, but here's the thing. When you're a child, when you're in third grade, like, you're not looking at movies to be good or bad.
Jason Mantzoukas
No, sure.
June Diane Raphael
You're so psyched to watch a movie.
Jason Mantzoukas
It is just a movie. There is no value judgment on it. It's just a movie.
June Diane Raphael
Absolutely.
Jason Mantzoukas
And back then you would watch it. Especially in that instance where you only had two tapes. You would watch it constantly and over.
Paul Scheer
But it's. But it's all sexual. I mean, that's the other thing, too. It's like, so you.
June Diane Raphael
I look at this movie as like it was a sexual awakening for me. I was obsessed with Michael Carrington. I was in love with him. Watching it today, I felt a lot of the same feelings.
Jason Mantzoukas
When's the last time you watched it, do you think? Back then, or is it something you have continued to keep up with?
June Diane Raphael
Oh, I haven't seen it in, like, over a decade. Yeah, I haven't seen it since I was younger, but it held up for me in the way that it needed to for me.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, I bet.
Paul Scheer
Wow.
June Diane Raphael
I mean, Paul, you saw me watch it. I was so thrilled.
Paul Scheer
I've never seen her watch a movie for this show. More in rapt attention.
June Diane Raphael
I love it.
Paul Scheer
Cross legged crisscross applesauce. Watching this movie with a big smile on your face.
Jason Mantzoukas
I can see that.
Paul Scheer
And sing.
Jason Mantzoukas
And sing the songs with a movie like this. Yeah.
Paul Scheer
And the songs in this, I don't think are that great.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, I'm gonna. This is what I'm gonna say. This is what I'm gonna say. I see that completely. I get it. You became obsessed with this movie at a time when movies weren't good or bad. They were just the movies. And I get it. I also want to say this movie, which I have never seen before, is terrible. Yeah, it is unequivocally terrible. The songs are awful.
Paul Scheer
Awful. And they're all about sex.
Jason Mantzoukas
And I love Grease. I think Grease is. And I hate musicals. I loathe musicals. And I think Grease is. I feel about Grease the way you feel about Grease 2.
June Diane Raphael
Let me tell you, because I've seen both of them. I grew up on both of them. And let me tell you, Grease 2 for me as a young girl was more. I had way more to grab onto. When Stephanie Zanoni says, like, there's gotta be more to life than just making out, you know, there are. There are themes in this movie.
Paul Scheer
It's a feminist Grease. I mean, that's. I mean, that is.
Jason Mantzoukas
I see that.
Paul Scheer
I'm sure.
June Diane Raphael
And I was so obsessed with her attitude and her insistent upon, you know, insistence upon, like, finding this guy who was challenging and, you know, her independence.
Jason Mantzoukas
You're right, in the sense that this is a better. This is a better story for a girl. She works at her dad's garage, but is, like, the unequivocal leader of, like, the. Of the IT group on campus. She is obsessed with cool writers. Like, I get. By the way.
Paul Scheer
She is cool as shit. Like, I mean, anything I can take.
Jason Mantzoukas
Away from this movie, she's Michelle Pfeiffer. Michelle, this movie for me has, like, all of my childhood crushes in one movie because the Seagal twins are mad. The Seagal twins are also in this movie. The twins from Double Trouble who I've talked about before. They are the true.
Paul Scheer
I didn't realize that they were the true.
Jason Mantzoukas
They go on to be the Double Trouble twins in the 80s.
Paul Scheer
Weren't they blonde in that show?
Jason Mantzoukas
In which show, Double Trouble. No, they're kind of brunettes.
Paul Scheer
Okay.
Jason Mantzoukas
And I was obsessed with the Double Trouble girls. And I was. I had, like, a sexual awakening to Michelle Pfeiffer in the movie Lady Hawk. When Michelle Pfeiffer was in Lady Hawk, I lost my mind. And the fact that she dated Fisher Stevens, who is maybe the closest celebrity I looked like growing up. I was like, there is hope. There is hope for someone like me that I could get a Michelle Pfeiffer. And I'm still coming for you, Michelle. David E. Kelly.
Paul Scheer
Where did that.
Jason Mantzoukas
Out of my way.
June Diane Raphael
As good as she did then?
Paul Scheer
She looks amazing.
June Diane Raphael
Unbelievable.
Paul Scheer
Where do you fall on this first time?
Anna Faris
Thank you, Paul. Thank you so much. I'm going to breathe heavily into the microphone, but no. Okay. I have a few thoughts. Of course I do, but I don't. All right. So, like, the corniness of, like, Bridal High. And, like, like, truly, when I started watching it because of your.
Paul Scheer
Yeah, we. Yeah, we made.
Jason Mantzoukas
We made you watch it.
Anna Faris
You made me watch it again. And I had watched it As a child or whatever. And I liked Grease 1.
June Diane Raphael
But see, I thought you wanted to do this movie for the podcast.
Anna Faris
I did.
June Diane Raphael
Okay. But because I was honestly like, oh, I did. This movie does not belong in this podcast.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah.
Paul Scheer
Judy says to me in the way.
June Diane Raphael
No, it doesn't.
Paul Scheer
It does. No.
June Diane Raphael
And I thought, Anna, that you were coming it with the same love that I was. And I was like, great, I'd love to share in that.
Anna Faris
I just have a complicated relationship with Grease because of my mom. My mom was always like, a woman should never succumb to a man.
Jason Mantzoukas
Like, you know, oh, she never change for a man.
Paul Scheer
So this movie would work for your mom really well, a little bit better.
Anna Faris
Yes.
Jason Mantzoukas
Because the man changes. Or would she be like, nobody should change.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas
Would she be inherently the message behind either Grease is flawed. Yeah. But you should be accepting of who the people we are.
Paul Scheer
Right. Yeah. You should become somebody else.
Anna Faris
But, you know, like, ultimately, what she also doesn't realize is that I totally changed for all the three men I've dated, five men I've slept with. Let's.
Jason Mantzoukas
Let's. Let's just. Very quickly, let's give full. Let's give full first names, last names, and let's just get Twitter handles if they got them. Let's get it out there. Let's get the info out there.
Paul Scheer
It is a crazy. I mean, look at the base of this movie. It's stealing from a Steve Guttenberg film. Or a Steve Guttenberg film. Remember that movie Don't Tell Her It's Me, where he pretends to be, like, a biker to get a girl? Maybe it was only me. I was a big goot.
Jason Mantzoukas
I don't remember that. You were a big fan. You were a big goot Head.
June Diane Raphael
The scenes where he's driving around with her and he's wearing those goggles.
Jason Mantzoukas
He's a stranger.
Paul Scheer
He's a stranger.
June Diane Raphael
Can we also be better? What could be better? A leather jacket. What could be better?
Anna Faris
Itching to talk. You're so right, June. But I'm so itching to talk about the sexy teacher.
Paul Scheer
Okay.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, Connie Stevens.
Paul Scheer
Oh, yeah. Let's do it.
Jason Mantzoukas
Talk about it.
Paul Scheer
Right?
Jason Mantzoukas
That's Connie Stevens, right?
Anna Faris
Yeah. Yeah, right?
Jason Mantzoukas
I think so.
Anna Faris
Like boobies.
June Diane Raphael
Yes. And hair.
Anna Faris
And hair.
Jason Mantzoukas
And they keep talking about constantly has the hairspray.
Paul Scheer
Well, this movie also.
Jason Mantzoukas
The sexual politics of this movie are pretty insane.
June Diane Raphael
Well, see, here's the thing. And as a child growing up, I mean this to me. My mother always told me that when I. People would ask me what I Wanted to be when I was older, I would say a teenager.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yes.
June Diane Raphael
I was obsessed with becoming a teenager. And it was because of these movies. And to me, I grew up thinking like, well, men are predators.
Jason Mantzoukas
I mean, what's interesting is that you're growing up in the 80s, getting all of your information about teenagers from people who were portraying teenagers in the 50s and who are.
Paul Scheer
And who are people in their 30s.
Jason Mantzoukas
Who are people in their 30s representing the attitudes of the 1930s written by.
Paul Scheer
Someone in the 80s.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yes.
Paul Scheer
Which is based on a movie that's kind of a cartoon of the 50s. And this is a cartoon of that.
June Diane Raphael
That's where my worldview, like, started.
Jason Mantzoukas
And it's.
Paul Scheer
I've said this a cartoon of teenager.
Jason Mantzoukas
I've said this about other movies. This movie is. This movie is horny in a way that is like aimless.
Paul Scheer
As I'm saying, it's like, it's like this. It's like, it's like Grease with a heart on.
Jason Mantzoukas
It's like it's horny without any follow through.
Paul Scheer
Well, let's talk about the beginning of the movie. I would say that a sure fire way to know that you're not in a good musical is when your opening musical number has no one singing on screen.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah.
Paul Scheer
Like the open musical number is like jittery Frankenstein dancing.
Jason Mantzoukas
Now.
Paul Scheer
You had a thought about this?
Anna Faris
Well, yeah, I did think like, I guess the logical thought is like, all right, you guys, everyone, let's all perform like the dance that we've been practicing all summer at 8:30am in like before, like the school flag. And we're gonna annoy everyone, but we're gonna do this shit. And like, you know, like a flash mob.
Paul Scheer
Like a flash mob. It's kind of like a big.
Jason Mantzoukas
But it's in that musical sense when I couldn't.
Anna Faris
What I felt like, can you imagine? Like, Jason?
Paul Scheer
Yeah.
Anna Faris
Okay, Anna. Okay, so listen, are we fighting?
June Diane Raphael
Okay.
Anna Faris
No, but listen, it's. Let's say it's June 20th.
Jason Mantzoukas
Great.
Anna Faris
It's schools, like schools out for summer, Right. And I call you up and I'm like, hey. And I'm like, do we have a license?
Jason Mantzoukas
Have we licensed that song?
Anna Faris
But I'm like, hey, Jason.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yes, Anna.
Anna Faris
Okay. Oh, God. So I really want to start practicing the dance number.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, for the first day of school. Dance number. Yeah. Yeah, we should start. We should start practicing.
Anna Faris
Yeah, but you have to because it's.
Jason Mantzoukas
Coming up, you know, and every single person in school participates.
Anna Faris
Yeah. So we gotta start on that now because. 8:30, you know, at like, when those buses pull up.
Jason Mantzoukas
When those buses pull up, once they're halfway through hanging the flag.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas
Shit's gonna go down.
Anna Faris
So we gotta start doing that, right?
Jason Mantzoukas
And that idiot with the cello.
Anna Faris
So if you don't start practicing with me.
Paul Scheer
Why did the T bird tape me?
Jason Mantzoukas
You were so right.
Anna Faris
There was a huge, like, cello man. We did.
June Diane Raphael
Yes.
Paul Scheer
Yeah.
Anna Faris
So if you're not.
Jason Mantzoukas
Don't worry. If you're worried. If you're wondering if nerds got theirs in this movie. They did. They did.
June Diane Raphael
But that to me also, except for Michael Carrington.
Paul Scheer
Michael Carrington is deemed a nerd. Quite literally, just the most hunky guy right off the. Right out the gate.
Jason Mantzoukas
Like, the glasses on. It's an accent. He's like.
June Diane Raphael
He has a breathy British accent. He's. He is an. You know what? I feel like they don't make him like this anymore. He's an old timey, like, dreamboat. Yep, A dreamboat.
Jason Mantzoukas
That is a T shirt right there.
June Diane Raphael
He is. He's so great.
Jason Mantzoukas
What is missing for me in this movie? Sorry, go ahead, Paul.
Paul Scheer
No, I was gonna say there is a great New York magazine article that was written about him when the movie came out. And he is such a pompous German. It's one of the best.
Jason Mantzoukas
Had he done. Was he famous for something else?
June Diane Raphael
Honestly, I don't know if I can hear this.
Jason Mantzoukas
Wow.
June Diane Raphael
I don't know if I can hear this.
Jason Mantzoukas
What do you got?
Paul Scheer
Well, this is one of the lines that goes, you know, British accent, breathy. I don't know how to say this because it sounds so vain, but I've written a script. And the script I've written is the best one that I've ever read. It's a script called Nemesis. And then the reporter goes, well, I pointed out that Agatha Christie had written a mystery called Nemesis. Well, it's not very well known, is it? Or successful.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, my God.
Paul Scheer
He asked worriedly.
Jason Mantzoukas
That's like the Steven Seagal. Quote. The Steven Seagal quote, which is. He's in and off. This is. I mean, it could be apocryphal. I don't know. Allegedly, at the height of Seagal mania, he is in a meeting and they're like, well, what are you gonna do? Or whatever. What do you want to do? He goes, I've just read the most amazing script. And they said, really? And he said, whatever it was. And they said, who wrote it? And he said, I did. And I love that story. I'm sure it's like some sort of you know, urban legend that is being attributed to Seagal, but come on, it kind of works.
Anna Faris
I would so be guilty of that.
Jason Mantzoukas
Really?
June Diane Raphael
Yes.
Jason Mantzoukas
Like you would write a script and then tee it up for yourself that way?
Anna Faris
No, I would never write a script because I can't write. I don't even know how to write.
Jason Mantzoukas
That is true. You are one of Hollywood's most successful illiterates.
Anna Faris
But I'm serious. Like.
Paul Scheer
Like you have someone in your ear saying it.
Anna Faris
Question, and I'll try to answer in like an incredibly pretentious way.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, okay. Anna, what was it like to work with Key and Peele in the movie Keanu?
Anna Faris
Oh, my God. Well, it's really remarkable to work with somebody who is not only comedic, but incredibly intellectual. And it felt like I was able to be my intellectual self as well.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, that's great.
Paul Scheer
Well, by the way, that's almost. Listen to this answer. He goes. He goes. I'm not that dedicated to my craft. I like being regarded as an artist, but I really want to become a star. This acting thing is a lark, a big game. And now I want to play another game. I want to get into race cars. I have a 65 vet and I can really move. When this is over, I want to rent one of those vans with airbrushing on the side and go down to Mexico with Juliet, his 41 year old wife. At 22 years old.
Jason Mantzoukas
What?
Paul Scheer
And no. And no.
June Diane Raphael
Are they still together?
Paul Scheer
No, the kid gets left behind. Are you kidding? And I'm taking a shotgun. I've heard of those banditos.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, this kid's amazing.
Anna Faris
This guy's article is amazing, though.
Paul Scheer
You like him?
Jason Mantzoukas
You like him?
Anna Faris
I didn't like him.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, no, he's a dreamboater.
Anna Faris
But I'm with you.
June Diane Raphael
Like, they're both so dreamy. I mean, here's the thing. Watching it now that who's more dreamy.
Paul Scheer
Him or Adrian Zemed?
June Diane Raphael
Who's Adrian Zemed?
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, wow. He's like the leader of the T birds.
June Diane Raphael
Oh, oh, of course.
Jason Mantzoukas
Joey. Joey almost played by Macarelli.
June Diane Raphael
Or Johnny. Of course. Of course Johnny. He's not dreamy at all. To me, I find him to be unappealing.
Anna Faris
Isn't he always trying to make out with the other one?
June Diane Raphael
Yeah, yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas
He's always trying to make Michelle Pfeiffer jealous by making out one.
June Diane Raphael
And by the way, I think he's great. He's amazing in this, but I don't find him dreamy.
Paul Scheer
I think he would be more amazing in it if I never saw Danny Zuko. Cause I feel like it's just like a community theater version of Danny Zuko. And I don't mean that.
June Diane Raphael
No. Because Michelle is Danny. I mean, Stephanie Zanoni is Danny Zuko.
Paul Scheer
But he is Danny.
Jason Mantzoukas
But he's portraying. He occupies the same.
June Diane Raphael
We don't care for him. Like, we care about.
Paul Scheer
Correct.
June Diane Raphael
Stephanie Zanoni or Danny Zuko.
Jason Mantzoukas
My biggest problem. Not my biggest problem, because I have, like, a lot of big problems with this movie, but my biggest problem was that, like, the songs in Greece are story songs. They are songs that illustrate and give context to the story. The songs in this movie do not do that. Like, the opening dance number is. There is nothing to it. The bowling song is. It's not forwarding the story at all.
Paul Scheer
They are song breaks that are veiled references to sex.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah. Which are just sexy songs. But they're. They're really, a lot of times just like kind of choruses without verses.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah, agreed.
Jason Mantzoukas
Which is not fun to watch at all. And the songs in Greece are so compelling. You know what I mean? They're integral to the story. Like when you have that opening number in Greece that gives you, who is he? Who is she? What was the summer? And where are they now?
June Diane Raphael
Boom.
Jason Mantzoukas
That's an incredible.
Paul Scheer
What you get is stuff like this. This is what you get. Like that big dance numbers going on. And then all of a sudden, Frenchie comes back.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, Frenchie.
Paul Scheer
Frenchie comes back.
Jason Mantzoukas
Frenchie comes back to go to school.
Paul Scheer
Yeah. To. She may go take a high school class on chemistry.
Jason Mantzoukas
That's correct.
Paul Scheer
This is so a big. So a big, giant musical number is going on. And you think, all right, well, let's lay down some of our main characters. Nope. You get this. A stop in the music. And then this. Frenchie.
June Diane Raphael
Hello.
Paul Scheer
Hi.
Jason Mantzoukas
Thanks for meeting me.
June Diane Raphael
Oh, listen, when your cousin Sandy told me you were coming to school in America, I said, sandy, any cousin of yours is a cousin of mine.
Paul Scheer
Yes.
Jason Mantzoukas
You did say you were the one.
Paul Scheer
Who know the ropes around here.
June Diane Raphael
Ah, ropes are my specialty. See, I used to go to Rydell before I dropped out to go to beauty school, but then I flunked hinting when my hair turned pink.
Jason Mantzoukas
Pink.
Paul Scheer
So that. That is that.
Jason Mantzoukas
Like, there's more of that. Like, Frenchie really has to justify her existence.
Paul Scheer
And by the way, I've done a.
Anna Faris
Beauty school in my house. Can't do it, Frenchie. June, can you do it?
June Diane Raphael
No, I can't do it. I do. It did make me very. When I saw her in the movie, I was Reminded of how good Grease one was and how good even a song like Beauty School Dropout, which is not great song, Beauty School Dropout. It is. And it isn't. Like, not. There are many songs that are so much better in Greece 1. But it sort of a song like the songs that are in Grease 2, which are sort of meaningless, you know, but. But it's so well done in Grease 1.
Paul Scheer
Yes. Here's a real thing.
June Diane Raphael
I agree with all this, but I sort of feel like an Amazon reviewer. Like, I really do. Like, I agree with all of it. And I could care, but it's in your.
Jason Mantzoukas
Well, that's the thing is, like, we can logically. We can logically pick it apart, but this movie lives in your heart.
June Diane Raphael
It really does. The only thing that was hard for me in this viewing was watching it as a child. I thought of myself as Stephanie Zanoni and I was like, oh, that's a part I want to play. I want to be her. I want to play this part. And watching it this time, I was like, oh, am I Ms. Mickey?
Paul Scheer
Whoa.
June Diane Raphael
I had a really. I was watching Ms. McGee's performance. Huh? Ms. McGee and Blanche are a comedic.
Paul Scheer
I think that that is great.
June Diane Raphael
By the way, they're from Grease one. They're just amazing together. I'm upset, obsessed with the two of them. Blanche is just phenomenal, but so is Ms. McGee. Oh, yeah, she's doing.
Jason Mantzoukas
You'll get no argument from me.
June Diane Raphael
Great work out there.
Paul Scheer
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Anna Faris
The weird song where they're talking about.
Paul Scheer
Like reproductive amazing stamen pistol.
June Diane Raphael
That whole number is thrilling to me.
Jason Mantzoukas
That's sex thrill. Horny. The movie is horny.
Anna Faris
We have to talk about the idea, I think of Michelle Pfeiffer's virginity.
June Diane Raphael
Like I don't see her as a virgin.
Jason Mantzoukas
I think what's her name, the blonde is a virgin.
June Diane Raphael
Yes, Paulette is. But I. It's interesting.
Anna Faris
I think they try to like have it each way.
Paul Scheer
Like they don't call out that she's having a lot of sex.
June Diane Raphael
No, but to me she's probably. Remember when she left with Johnny four?
Anna Faris
I don't know.
June Diane Raphael
I think yes.
Anna Faris
Cause remember she was put on the skirt like she. And then during that whole reproductive thing, she's like Standing up there as a powerful woman, but she's not participating in the idea of. And then she is, like, defiant about the idea of her own sexuality. She's like, I want somebody who I can, like, ride with or whatever, and I'm gonna wait for it.
Paul Scheer
I think. I think you're right, because I feel like all these people, like, all the groups. All the people in the Johnny group, like, were trying to always have sex, but they weren't, like, succeeding. They were getting close to it. Hence the date rape song, which we should get into it a little bit.
June Diane Raphael
That changes everything. Cause to me, she. And I felt this growing up, she was not a virgin. She was, like, a total. Like, she had had sex before with Johnny, and she was, like, a sexually mature woman.
Jason Mantzoukas
I wonder if we're not gonna be able to come up with this answer, but I would love for people to weigh in.
Anna Faris
Let's call Michelle Pfeiffer right now.
Jason Mantzoukas
I would love to know, like, this. This. Because this movie is 1980s obsessed in. With virginity. You know, like. Like, virginity. Like. Like, was. Losing it is the. Is the title of Tom Cruise's first movie. Right.
Paul Scheer
By the way, Tom Cruise is supposed to play the Adrian Cement part.
Jason Mantzoukas
Amazing. Sure thing. Like, these are movies that are entirely predicated on teenagers losing their virginity.
Paul Scheer
Porkies.
Jason Mantzoukas
Porkies. That doesn't exist anymore in. We don't see that in tv. Like, that's not a thing anymore. Like, the. The movie that is based on the. The necessity of losing it. Or, you know, like. Like, they. You know, they. In this movie, it's.
Paul Scheer
Well, it's always, like, one character. It's like.
Jason Mantzoukas
Like we almost got in a car crash. Oh. And we would have died. I would have died a virgin. Can you imagine?
Paul Scheer
I guess American Pie is the closest thing that was, like.
Jason Mantzoukas
Sure. 20 years old now.
Paul Scheer
Wow.
Jason Mantzoukas
I mean, it must be.
Paul Scheer
Yeah, you're right.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah.
June Diane Raphael
That's interesting.
Jason Mantzoukas
Are millennials as post virginity. Are millennials post virginity? Like, obviously, I'm sure they as people are obsessed with their own virginities, et cetera, but they're not seeing it portrayed the way we all were.
Paul Scheer
Because that's special.
June Diane Raphael
Because. And I think that something else is happening, which is that they're all just.
Jason Mantzoukas
Fingering each other's buttholes.
June Diane Raphael
They're probably fingering each other. But also, I think people are coming out.
Paul Scheer
Out.
June Diane Raphael
Coming out with their sexuality and also coming out with their identity.
Jason Mantzoukas
I also.
June Diane Raphael
And that's more important than.
Jason Mantzoukas
I also think porn.
Anna Faris
Oh, really?
Jason Mantzoukas
I also think everybody's watching porn since they're like little kids now it's all online, so they'd like the idea of like a mist.
June Diane Raphael
The idea was always around.
Paul Scheer
Not this way though. Not this.
Jason Mantzoukas
I mean, like, porn was like finding the woods.
Paul Scheer
Yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas
But like, like gone are the days where in order to see like a naked woman, you had to like, like, you know, in. As represented in movies, find like a hole in a wall that you could look into the girl's desktop.
June Diane Raphael
But are you saying that people. Because young. Well, I guess young men. I mean, maybe young women are watching porn. I don't know, but are watching porn, they feel they've had sex.
Jason Mantzoukas
I. I think there isn't as much.
Paul Scheer
It scratches an itch.
Jason Mantzoukas
I. Yeah. I wonder if losing your virginity has the same weight. I don't. I'm curious. Maybe this is old man talk. Anna Faris is eating her own birthday cake. Happy birthday, honey.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah, it does bum me out too, actually.
Jason Mantzoukas
I'm genuinely curious and I don't know, maybe this is like, to young listeners, they're rolling their eyes, aren't they?
June Diane Raphael
Sort of. Aren't they? Isn't the big, like, you know, transition for teens and millennials or whatever more about identity now than like, just the actual act of having sex? And more about who they are as a person, who they are like emo this, that, you know, I mean, I guess Jack and nerds have always. Yeah, I don't know.
Jason Mantzoukas
I mean, now nerds are jocks though.
Paul Scheer
Now the movie would be about like the T birds going to that British guy to take cool Instagram photos and they would steal the credit for the photo instead of papers.
Anna Faris
I will say if somebody went to the trouble of writing like a bunch of like, fake like, papers and whatnot for me and like, and then ended up up, like buying a motorcycle for me and fixed it up and ended up like, I'd be like, fuck you. I have no self esteem. So, like, I'm not gonna accept this.
Paul Scheer
So wait, you have no, like, so you're saying.
Jason Mantzoukas
Why would you, you would say that out of you not having sex? Because I feel like you'd be like, you don't have self esteem. You should have only represented yourself as a British man in a blazer. You shouldn't have had to change.
Anna Faris
That's what I'm saying. Like, he wanted to change for me. Fuh. That means that I have to.
Jason Mantzoukas
You're both disasters then.
Anna Faris
Yeah, we're all disasters.
June Diane Raphael
See, this is the way I see it. As different as it's to me. It's not that he wanted to change for her, or that he even did change for her. Cause I felt in Grease 1, she was definitely making a choice. She comes out in that outfit in the end and it's like, oh, I've never seen this person before. This is a completely different person. In Grease 2, though, to me, it felt like, oh, no, this is actually who he is. He's more pulling out this side of himself and he wants her to see it, but it's not as stark a change.
Jason Mantzoukas
What's interesting is that this movie plays it both ways. They both have him change. They both have him undergo the transformation that is that which she thinks she wants. She wants. As exemplified in the song Cool Rider. He hears from me to sing it.
June Diane Raphael
Or should I just sing it?
Jason Mantzoukas
He hears who sings Cool Rider. Go ahead.
Anna Faris
Okay.
June Diane Raphael
If you really want to know what I want in a guy. Well, I'm looking for a dream on a mean machine with hell in his eyes I want to put skin. Guys, it's so fun.
Jason Mantzoukas
You wanted to see this.
Anna Faris
I know you have to climb this ladder.
June Diane Raphael
I want to watch June do it as the wind. And one fine night I'll be holding on tight to a coup.
Jason Mantzoukas
It's so fans.
Anna Faris
No, you have fans.
Jason Mantzoukas
You have the vocal track.
Paul Scheer
Go fans.
Jason Mantzoukas
You have the vocal track.
June Diane Raphael
If you don't, don't.
Anna Faris
If you don't continue.
June Diane Raphael
Well, I'm trying to remember the next verse. I think there at one point it.
Anna Faris
Goes, yeah, I need a.
June Diane Raphael
That's the way it's going to be. Cool. Cuz it's the way that I feel. I want to. I wanna win. I'm gonna be mad now. I can't remember any of it. It's so good.
Jason Mantzoukas
He takes that song so good and basically transforms himself into the cool writer. Into the cool writer. But the movie also gives them a storyline wherein they become friends, wherein he's helping her with her English paperwork, her English homework.
June Diane Raphael
And they have one scene together.
Jason Mantzoukas
But there's like a couple scenes where they show them. Because I think it would have been insane. Because he starts the movie, he's asking her out constantly. Can you meet me after school? Will you go out with me? And she's like, take a hint. The answer is no. But this is a movie where he's like, okay, you can say no to me, but I'm gonna become the guy you want me to be. And also, it gives you a little bit of. But they also are compatible.
Paul Scheer
Here's because you have this code. You can't date me because of the code.
Jason Mantzoukas
But that's not why she's not interested in him.
June Diane Raphael
Here's the thing. No, of course not. But I.
Jason Mantzoukas
She's not interested in him. Cause he's like a nerd. He's a nerd.
June Diane Raphael
I was coming out of Greece one with Sandy and the poodle skirts to watch Stephanie Zanoni in one of the opening scenes wear pants and then forget that she has to wear a skirt at school and put that skirt over it and pull those pants up. I was. I mean, there's something to be said about the response to Grease one for. I mean, ultimately, I wish the story had been. Well, I don't really wish it, but I suppose there's another reading of it where she could actually want to ride a motorcycle. I mean, she still does want to just simply be on it with.
Jason Mantzoukas
Date the best rider like the movie could be. Why can't I be in the T birds?
June Diane Raphael
Right? Especially because she seems to be a mechanic.
Jason Mantzoukas
She is quite possibly the most qualified person to ride a motorcycle in the entire room.
Paul Scheer
Do you want to talk just for a second about the T birds Also because I don't understand the T birds here because the T birds seemingly are not like, really a motorcycle gang, or at least comparatively.
Anna Faris
But they're very funny.
June Diane Raphael
They.
Paul Scheer
They're like a bunch.
Anna Faris
They riff like things.
June Diane Raphael
They.
Paul Scheer
But they're, like, missing a leader. Yeah.
Anna Faris
Say really funny things like, oh, yo, you want this cake? Oh, I don't even know if I want this cake.
Jason Mantzoukas
Are these lines from the movie? Are you talking about the. The cake that's in front of you right now? Once again, your birthday. Happy birthday.
Anna Faris
But it's very funny.
Paul Scheer
They also are like. They're like.
Jason Mantzoukas
They say things like, I'm going to help her out with her condition. She's a nymph.
Paul Scheer
Nymphoid.
Jason Mantzoukas
Nymphoid.
Anna Faris
What kind of.
Paul Scheer
Whoa.
June Diane Raphael
Whoa.
Jason Mantzoukas
Is this where you tell us you auditioned to play one of the T birds in this movie? Yo. Oh, hey, yo, you're not going to. Is more Stallone.
Anna Faris
This is our locker.
Jason Mantzoukas
More like Rocky.
Anna Faris
This is my locker. No one's taking this locker away from us.
Paul Scheer
They're. They're like. They're like human apes. And yet they're afraid to wreck their reputation by having it known that someone's doing their homework. Wouldn't you think that that would be.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, and they're also.
Paul Scheer
No one's gonna.
June Diane Raphael
They've got a rep to produce you.
Anna Faris
And I, not no one else.
Jason Mantzoukas
And they.
Paul Scheer
And they don't.
Jason Mantzoukas
They don't fight.
Paul Scheer
I'm scared let's go bring a girl down to a shelter. Try to.
June Diane Raphael
In my mind. In my mind. Like their power had been diminished from Greece 1 to Grease 2. But I was okay with that.
Paul Scheer
They don't work on motorcycles. All they want to do is win a talent show. This is a fucking movie about.
Jason Mantzoukas
They are obsessed with.
Anna Faris
They never got to get this spring.
Jason Mantzoukas
They are obsessed with four part harmony. They're obsessed with four part harmony.
Paul Scheer
And the only people they beat up are nerds who are good at three part harmony. They hate musical nerds. That's all they hate.
Jason Mantzoukas
It's not cool.
Paul Scheer
They don't ever work on them. You barely see their motorcycles. You see their motorcycles in one scene.
Jason Mantzoukas
In two scenes. And more importantly, there is a true. Like Michelle Pfeiffer should be dating the leader of the motorcycle rival gang. The man, like the 40 year old who. Thank you.
Anna Faris
Who like, like, like rides across the.
Jason Mantzoukas
The track. Yes. She should be that. The story should be.
June Diane Raphael
He was the same actor who played. I love it. Yes, I think so. So we're just. Which I think is the right choice. Like, he's super senior. He's always there.
Jason Mantzoukas
He's McConaughey.
June Diane Raphael
Yes.
Paul Scheer
Wait, isn't his name Crater Face or.
June Diane Raphael
No, it was in Grease 1.
Jason Mantzoukas
They cut and they reference it in Grease 2.
Anna Faris
But actually he was really hot and. But it was a little bit weird that he did go with 40 other motorcycle buddies across the track and then they decide to go bowling together.
Paul Scheer
Is it interesting to know that the sequel to Grease 2 was written by the guy who wrote and directed Airplane 2?
Jason Mantzoukas
Really? That does not surprise me.
Paul Scheer
It kind of actually answers a lot of questions for me. Another little fact here. This is for people at home that have not seen the movie. At 13 minutes and 30 seconds, hit that pause button because some dude's junk falls out of his pants.
Jason Mantzoukas
Really?
Paul Scheer
A guy running track his. And I've watched it now. His testicles fall out of his shorts and he's trying to tuck them back in for the rest of the run. And it's.
Jason Mantzoukas
It's June. I can't. As a child, you didn't. You weren't clocking the balls.
Anna Faris
Can I ask June, like, like woman to woman?
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, boy, here we go.
Anna Faris
When a man's balls fall out of his shorts, it's like kind of secretly hot, right?
June Diane Raphael
Not to me.
Jason Mantzoukas
This is humanity. This is how we are.
Anna Faris
Think about this.
June Diane Raphael
I can tell you it is not.
Anna Faris
Kind of hot, though. Not really though. Let's think about it. When you really think about, like, Some sweet balls. Like falling right out of.
Jason Mantzoukas
No, right out of, like, a pair of dolphin shorts.
June Diane Raphael
No.
Anna Faris
Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't know you were involved.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh. What's going on? I'm just talking about those sweet, sweet balls. Like, just plopping, plopping right out of those track shorts.
Anna Faris
I feel like it's vulnerable and sexy at the same time.
Jason Mantzoukas
Are you looking at it?
June Diane Raphael
Picture.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, wow. What you're attracted to is the unexpected reveal of genitalia.
Paul Scheer
Oh, that's a great shot of it, right?
Jason Mantzoukas
You're like, I'm not supposed to see this.
Paul Scheer
This is balls till you do it.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, my God, that's amazing.
Paul Scheer
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June Diane Raphael
Unsettling.
Paul Scheer
Well, not as unsettling as this, where they take out all the sound and you hear.
June Diane Raphael
What is this?
Paul Scheer
It's very loud. Wet mouth kissing. I'll play it again. This is when they finally kiss.
Anna Faris
All right.
June Diane Raphael
Well, I mean.
Jason Mantzoukas
Gross. Gross. I don't like it.
Paul Scheer
I do want to just give you a couple facts that I thought were funny. Sandy. Or not Sandy, what is her name? Michelle Pfeiffer. Stephanie, the gas station that you worked at, that's where John Travolta and Sandy were gonna cameo as the owners of that gas station.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, interesting. Wonderful.
Anna Faris
I don't want them owning.
Jason Mantzoukas
I don't want them still together. How many years after Grease 1 is Grease 2 meant to take place?
June Diane Raphael
That's a great question.
Paul Scheer
It takes place in 1961, this movie.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, really?
Anna Faris
You've dashed all my dreams.
Jason Mantzoukas
I have.
Anna Faris
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June Diane Raphael
Yes.
Jason Mantzoukas
Can you accept my apology?
Anna Faris
No, you.
Jason Mantzoukas
Wow. Things are not good between me and Guest, Anna Faris.
June Diane Raphael
Guest?
Anna Faris
Fuck you.
Paul Scheer
Okay, so Greece takes place in 1959. Greece 2 takes place in 1961.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh. Three years is the difference. So these were freshmen when Danny Zuko was a senior. Is that what you're telling me?
Paul Scheer
Yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas
So you're telling me these people have witnessed the events of Greece 1 and are participating in.
Paul Scheer
Yes.
Jason Mantzoukas
They should look at their lives and be like, you know what? We've already seen Danny Zuko go through this. Remember when that.
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There's been a lot of talk online also that that the Robert Patrick character from Terminator 2 is the.
June Diane Raphael
Who's that?
Jason Mantzoukas
Goose?
Paul Scheer
No. Is the main guy Holden Caulfield? Whatever.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, Michael Caulfield.
Paul Scheer
Yeah. Is there the same person? Because they wear the same eyewear.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, oh, oh, oh, I see. Oh, that's cool. Also, by the way. And I mean, like. And I get it, it's for the romantic, you know, story in the movie. But, like, she is able. She is right next to him. She's able to see three quarters of his face and does not recognize. And he has a very recognizable jawline. And she is like. I don't know who he is. Cause he's.
June Diane Raphael
I will say, though, his accent drops away.
Jason Mantzoukas
Why?
June Diane Raphael
I don't know why on earth. But what's interesting about his accent, initially, like, when he first enters the school, he speaks as though he's. He doesn't know English.
Paul Scheer
Yes.
June Diane Raphael
Like, there's a quality to his voice where it seems like he doesn't know the language. And then you realize, well, no, he just is British.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah. Well. And that kid is talking to him like, how long have you been in America?
Paul Scheer
I thought that was an okay joke for this.
June Diane Raphael
I think there's some great jokes in here. This stuff I really Genuinely laughed when that teacher who's, you know, had the mental breakdown, walks up to the luau and walks straight, straight into the pool. I mean, I had a laugh when I was 11 and I had another laugh this afternoon.
Jason Mantzoukas
There's definitely jokes. There's definitely solid jokes in this movie.
Paul Scheer
Airplane 2 style jokes.
Jason Mantzoukas
And that's actually what they are.
June Diane Raphael
They are. I appreciated them.
Paul Scheer
I wanted to. Before we wrap it up, I do want to talk about the. The sex in the bunker scene.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah, let's do it for America.
Paul Scheer
Yeah, let's do it for America. Let's play it.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah, let's do it for our country.
Jason Mantzoukas
The red, white and the blue.
Paul Scheer
It's Uncle Sam who's asking.
Jason Mantzoukas
So your mother will have room.
June Diane Raphael
Tomorrow. Fighting. I'm gonna win this war for you. Our country wants us to.
Jason Mantzoukas
I just picture you like a little kid, June running around singing that song. And your parents being like, oh, I'm sure I did.
June Diane Raphael
I would sing reproduction all the time.
Paul Scheer
Reproduction is also a section.
June Diane Raphael
Oh, absolutely. Even know what I'm pistol is. I got you a pistol right here.
Anna Faris
One of the best joys I've had to your audience so good is watching June sing like lyric by lyric.
Jason Mantzoukas
And the.
Paul Scheer
She was.
Jason Mantzoukas
The old fashioned joy the whole movie, by the way.
Paul Scheer
I just love that if you can't see it, but. But she just did like with her. Rolled her fingers like.
June Diane Raphael
I got you a pistol right here.
Jason Mantzoukas
It's. I wish you could all. I want to watch. I want to have watched it with you.
June Diane Raphael
I will say in terms of social order, this is why I like this movie more. Also because of the way women treated each other. Paulette really does like Johnny and Michelle Fife or Stephanie Zanoni's had this relationship with Johnny. There's no competition between the Pink Ladies.
Jason Mantzoukas
And there's no stalker channel. There's no stalker. Channing, what's the character?
June Diane Raphael
One of the most amazing characters. The end song on Grease. One that she sings about having had an or almost being pregnant.
Paul Scheer
Oh, by the way, they also just dropped that as a runner in this movie. She's like, I missed my period. Yeah, like what? And then it's like we don't follow that character at all.
Anna Faris
Yeah, but it's a great joke. And Ms. McGee, it's a great joke.
June Diane Raphael
Kills that scene.
Jason Mantzoukas
It's a great line.
Paul Scheer
Yeah, she does.
Jason Mantzoukas
It's a great line. It's a great look from her. Oh, honey, it's okay, honey, honey, you can make them up. And then I will say that when they get into the Motorcycle chase with British guy, and he goes off the jump, and they think he's died. They are very casual about being murderers. The T birds are super casual about having just murdered someone. And then they're like. And everybody goes to the talent show and they perform. Everybody.
June Diane Raphael
This is my one complaint about the movie.
Jason Mantzoukas
Everybody's pretty casual about having murdered someone is that.
June Diane Raphael
I don't think they should have pulled back on that. Actually.
Jason Mantzoukas
He should have died.
June Diane Raphael
No, I don't think he should have died. I think when they say they've looked down there and he's not there, I don't think they should be able to see. I think they should have been staring into just a dark.
Paul Scheer
An abyss.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah. Like a corner.
June Diane Raphael
And really not know whether he's alive or dead.
Jason Mantzoukas
Okay. Because I think that's how they were playing.
June Diane Raphael
No, but they said so many times, nothing's there. Nothing's there. And when I watch this movie, I mean, I'm in every moment. I am suspending my.
Jason Mantzoukas
Very clearly.
June Diane Raphael
And when they say he's not there, I'm like, well, I guess he did make it. And I don't want to even understand.
Jason Mantzoukas
Daphne Zenega doesn't think that. She is devastated.
June Diane Raphael
But if they don't see him down there, though, then where they'll find him in the morning. That's what I don't understand, Jason. They are not seeing with their eyeballs that he is not in that pit.
Paul Scheer
Where do you see that?
Jason Mantzoukas
I think they're looking down into the pit, and they don't see anything obvious, but they don't see it all. So they're telling themselves a narrative that is, we think he made it. And she's, like, in her head, like, he's gone, he's gone, he's gone. And I never even got to see his eyes, which would have identified him as a person.
Anna Faris
Right.
June Diane Raphael
Okay.
Paul Scheer
Because I also wanted to see, like, a Sherlock. How did he survive? I want to see.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, I want to see it put together.
Paul Scheer
Yeah. I want to see him explaining how.
Jason Mantzoukas
He'S practicing that jump specifically.
Paul Scheer
You know, that man's curb. Did he set up those road signs? But can we just go back to the. You guys were not disturbed by the scene. That is a date rape song.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, yeah.
Paul Scheer
I mean, that is.
Jason Mantzoukas
The song is crazy. The song is basically guilting her into sex before the cunt because there's a guy outside. Mom won't even mind.
Anna Faris
Say, sex before the cunt.
Jason Mantzoukas
What? No, for the country.
Anna Faris
Oh, I thought you just said sex before the cunt, which I Sort of.
Jason Mantzoukas
Loved, which is the name of my.
Anna Faris
In the second album before the Cunt.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah. I mean, it's crazy. And it's crazy to have watched this at a formative age where you're just like, oh, this is what I mean. The way I thought about high school, I was like. But I wanted to be in there. I was like, get me in that zoo.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah.
June Diane Raphael
I want to get to that crazy zoo as quickly as possible.
Jason Mantzoukas
It's that feeling of. That feeling of wanting to be a teenager is huge.
June Diane Raphael
I mean, it's. What I wanted more than anything in the world was to be a teenager because of this movie.
Jason Mantzoukas
And I get it. I get. I can see why this would be attractive because Michelle Pfeiffer is a. A fucking badass up and down in this movie.
Paul Scheer
She's the best.
Jason Mantzoukas
She's the best.
June Diane Raphael
She's never chewing, like five pieces of.
Jason Mantzoukas
Gum and is wearing sunglasses for half of the movie. She's wearing sunglasses for a full half of the movie. You cannot see the actor's eyes, which is insane.
Paul Scheer
I really realize that. That is a huge.
June Diane Raphael
Well, it's funny you should mention that because she is chewing a lot. She's not just chewing one piece of gum, she's chewing like five.
Paul Scheer
But that's what you do.
June Diane Raphael
I know. I've never been able to have one piece of gum. And I. Maybe it started. I can and I won't. I'd rather have none.
Paul Scheer
If I buy a pack of gum, it's gone in two settings because I'm gonna have gum.
June Diane Raphael
I'm gonna have at least three pieces and one sitting.
Paul Scheer
So I have to buy her like, Costco level gum to keep in her car so it'll fend off a week. She's like a bear. You gotta just throw gum at her.
Jason Mantzoukas
One of my favorite characters that we have not touched on at all is the character named Dolores, who is the pink lady's intern, basically, who writes the.
Anna Faris
Hot one with a picture.
Paul Scheer
Pamela Adelon.
Jason Mantzoukas
No, it's not.
Paul Scheer
Tyler. Yes.
Jason Mantzoukas
Shut your mouth.
Paul Scheer
Yes.
Jason Mantzoukas
Was that Pam Adlon?
Paul Scheer
Yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas
Wait. Shut up. Everybody shut up.
June Diane Raphael
Nobody's speaking.
Jason Mantzoukas
Shut up in the house.
June Diane Raphael
Nobody has said anything.
Jason Mantzoukas
Are you talking to me right now and saying that someone that we know, Pamela Adlon was the character Dolores in that movie. That is mind blowing. I. That was my favorite character.
Paul Scheer
I looked up her accident. She got her car accident in the middle of the movie. So most of her scenes are doubles.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, interesting.
Paul Scheer
But, yeah, but they got. They got them.
Jason Mantzoukas
I thought that character was hilarious.
Paul Scheer
She was Great.
Jason Mantzoukas
I love when she was like, oh, this broad.
June Diane Raphael
Hilarious.
Jason Mantzoukas
Even more hilarious.
June Diane Raphael
This broad.
Jason Mantzoukas
This bride's killing me. You wish. I love that.
June Diane Raphael
You wish. The fact that Paulette is her sister is so perfect. I mean, I just love the two of them.
Jason Mantzoukas
It's the best. That character and her dynamic with British guy I also like.
June Diane Raphael
So great.
Jason Mantzoukas
And she's like, we can't see each other anymore because I've got another guy going on. I thought it was. That was really good. There's good stuff in here, but the songs are truly reprehensible.
Paul Scheer
Yeah. And they're.
Jason Mantzoukas
Except for the one.
Paul Scheer
Except one thing.
June Diane Raphael
Reproduction.
Jason Mantzoukas
Except for Reproduction, which is on.
June Diane Raphael
And Cool Rider. And who's that Guy?
Jason Mantzoukas
Nope. Nope. Who's that Guy? Is an entire song that only asks one question. Who's that guy? And it's. It's almost as if they're like, well, we can't finish the song until every character on screen says the line, who's that guy? And so the song goes on for, like, seven minutes. Because there's a lot of people who have to say, who's that guy?
Paul Scheer
Well, obviously.
June Diane Raphael
And also, let's do it for our country. And also.
Jason Mantzoukas
Bad song.
Paul Scheer
Yeah, that's a bad song.
Jason Mantzoukas
It's a bad song. The message behind that song is, we're gonna score tonight is also not good.
Paul Scheer
That's a bad song, too, because it's not even clever innuendo. It's not even innuendo.
Jason Mantzoukas
It's like.
Paul Scheer
It is a bowling song. It just is a bowling song. Obviously, we had an opinion about this movie. There are people out there that had a different opinion. It is now time.
Jason Mantzoukas
A lot of these are from June. These are June Amazon reviews of this movie.
June Diane Raphael
Honestly, I would be fine to write a review for this movie. I really would like. I do think. Well, I don't know. I guess people watching movies now are so jaded.
Jason Mantzoukas
But, ooh, the look on June's face.
June Diane Raphael
With the word jaded. But there's something to me, even the worst musical, I tip my hat to because I feel like there's. It takes a certain amount of courage to put words to music and to make a musical. I just think it does. I think you are. You have to really put yourself out there in a way that I appreciate and I find joy in musicals. So I appreciate a musical. And I do think that there are better ones. Of course, I don't look at this, though, as like, oh, it's about the music. It's. If you're looking for a great.
Jason Mantzoukas
What you love about it is not musical. But it is a musical.
June Diane Raphael
But it is a musical. That's right.
Jason Mantzoukas
What you love about it happens to. Not happens to be. You could cut all the songs out and it would be a movie you would still love.
June Diane Raphael
Well, except for Cool Rider. Who's that guy reproduction all of them.
Jason Mantzoukas
Except for all the songs.
Paul Scheer
All the songs, obviously.
June Diane Raphael
That song she sings when she's playing Winter.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
June Diane Raphael
Crazy Dream sequence. That song too.
Jason Mantzoukas
Where he's like suddenly in like different.
Paul Scheer
Gear, talking from a pile of burnt.
June Diane Raphael
Motorcycle and let's do it for America.
Paul Scheer
Well, obviously we have a second opinion and so does June. Or people have a second opinion. So does June.
Jason Mantzoukas
That.
Paul Scheer
Time for second opinions.
Jason Mantzoukas
What do they do to show a different view?
June Diane Raphael
They get a second opinion. Amazon review. It's a five star review in the.
Jason Mantzoukas
For someone like you, it's a second opinion. I love that.
June Diane Raphael
That's amazing.
Paul Scheer
That was Chelsea Cannon.
Jason Mantzoukas
Chelsea Cannon, best second opinion theme song ever.
Paul Scheer
Really good for Chelsea.
Jason Mantzoukas
That is it. That is the bar. Try and beat it, assholes.
Paul Scheer
All right, so this is 5 star reviews culled from Amazon. This one is first written by Richard Beaman. Okay, sure, it's not the original Grease, but this movie has its own campy theme and quality. And I enjoy watching it from time to time to escape reality, if nothing else. That being said, it's easy to understand why Grease 3 never came around. It'd be like north and South, Book three, totally unnecessary and empty, no matter how well it was done.
Jason Mantzoukas
Wait, what's that?
Paul Scheer
I don't know.
Jason Mantzoukas
Is that some books?
Paul Scheer
I guess. North and somebody should get smart, though, and produce a film that reunites a lot of these characters while they're still living. After all, Travolta and Newman aren't on fire anymore.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, God.
Paul Scheer
And we'd like to see them again for fun. 5 stars.
Jason Mantzoukas
A movie that puts all of these people, the characters from one and two, into one movie.
Paul Scheer
I guess this guy's basically saying, I don't like anything, but let's put this. Let's make it.
Jason Mantzoukas
I mean, you could make Grease 3 as a reunion movie. You know, a reunion movie for that.
Paul Scheer
Age group, the older principles. Right.
Jason Mantzoukas
It would take place Interestingly if Grease 3 starred all the original actors at their, like 50 year reunion. It would take place in the 90s.
Paul Scheer
I would like that.
Jason Mantzoukas
That would be neat. Or their 40 year reunion. It would be like the 90s.
Anna Faris
I don't know. I'm thinking like.
Jason Mantzoukas
And June. You could be in it.
Anna Faris
Alaska, like global warming. Is, like, setting in, like, there's a small. Like, this is the theme village of getting. Yeah, that's sort of like getting, you.
Jason Mantzoukas
Know, like, less and less snow.
Anna Faris
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, the shores coming, like, creeping, creeping, creeping slowly, and they decide to have, like, some kind of, like, A Midsummer Night's Dream celebration.
Jason Mantzoukas
Of course, that's a musical that is Grease related.
Anna Faris
And.
Jason Mantzoukas
No, no, no, keep going. You got this.
Paul Scheer
This one is from Victoria English. I've only seen bits and pieces of the original Grease, and to be honest, I've never been interested in watching it. I have, however, watched this movie several times and can honestly say I love it. Great cast, plot, and songs. Definitely a classic. Better than the original. Five stars.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah. And it's sort of like, must we compare it to the original?
Paul Scheer
I think you'd have to.
Anna Faris
That's right.
June Diane Raphael
That would be a mistake.
Jason Mantzoukas
But I will. And. But I'm gonna, like. I will back June up in the sense that, like, I like the story of Grease 2 more than the story of Grease 1.
June Diane Raphael
Me, too.
Jason Mantzoukas
You know, like, I like this story. I just. I think the songs are really boring.
Paul Scheer
One of the things that pops up in these reviews, too, is everyone that loves this movie has seen it and quoted. I've seen it 200 times. I've seen it 300 times. I've seen it 45 times.
Jason Mantzoukas
I think for a lot of people, it probably existed in a similar way to June, which is. It was VHS or something. Whoa.
Paul Scheer
Wow.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, I'm sure over 200, you think?
June Diane Raphael
Well, there was a period. There was one summer. I actually remember watching it almost every day.
Jason Mantzoukas
Wow.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah. I mean, there were two movies. It was so awesome to watch a movie that I probably watched it every day. So that's a summer of seeing it. Yeah. I see over 200 times.
Paul Scheer
How about that?
Jason Mantzoukas
Wow.
Paul Scheer
Geez.
June Diane Raphael
I mean, I know if you were to play it right now, I could probably do every line from the movie.
Paul Scheer
You were doing it.
June Diane Raphael
I was, Yeah.
Paul Scheer
I can't explain myself, but I like Grease 2 more than the original.
Jason Mantzoukas
Wait, Paul, are you speaking for yourself?
Paul Scheer
I'm speaking as Gina. I can't explain myself, but I like Grease 2 more than the original Grease. I know, I'm crazy. Wait, am I crazy? No. This movie is great. Why is it great? Because it's funny. It's funny, and it's got attractive people in it. Plus, they got that whole school pageant, talent show thing. And that's just so. You get it. Five stars.
Anna Faris
I get it.
Paul Scheer
And then this is the other one. That again, this is just one other one that's almost like a haiku. Love it. Could watch it every week. Can't watch it enough. LoveGreece1, too. I'm not sure what else to say. Five stars all around. Fun, sing along movie.
Jason Mantzoukas
I get it. I get the appreciation of the movie. I just.
June Diane Raphael
To me, I remember watching Grease 1 and I loved it. But Grease 1, I remember thinking was a. Was a bit of a bore compared to this. Grease one was a bit of a.
Paul Scheer
That's what everyone says here. Everyone says Greece 1 is a bore. Greece 2 is amazing.
June Diane Raphael
If you really want to, like, have some fun.
Jason Mantzoukas
Whoa.
June Diane Raphael
You're gonna want to watch Grease.
Jason Mantzoukas
So basically we can. What you're saying is, like, Grease 1 is a prude and Grease 2 is a sauce.
June Diane Raphael
Grease 2 is like, horny foot. Yeah, absolutely. Like, I want to watch, like, a saucier movie. Like, I'm gonna put on Grease too.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah, I think that's.
June Diane Raphael
Sure.
Anna Faris
Can I ask you guys one last question? Oh, no.
June Diane Raphael
I know you.
Paul Scheer
No, go ahead. No.
Anna Faris
All right. So why is Stephanie always wearing glasses throughout the first act?
June Diane Raphael
Sunglasses.
Jason Mantzoukas
Mm. She is. She's wearing sunglasses constantly in the movie.
Anna Faris
So what happened? Did she, like, bright, can we work this out?
Jason Mantzoukas
I mean, I think this was, like. It was cool. Quote, unquote.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah, she was like, yeah, it was.
Jason Mantzoukas
And when she takes them off. And when she takes them off is when she becomes vulnerable.
June Diane Raphael
Well, I do think. I do think this idea of being cool was such a teenage idea, and I do wonder if it's. If it has that currency anymore, similar to what you're saying about losing your virginity. Like. Cause. Because I do remember thinking kids were cool or not cool. And now I don't ever think of people as cool or not cool.
Jason Mantzoukas
You should, but.
Anna Faris
Yeah. Yeah. What about me?
June Diane Raphael
But I mean, maybe there are certain people I think of, like, amazing style, or I can appreciate their aesthetic, whatever, but.
Jason Mantzoukas
But go through the room and say who's cool and who's not cool?
June Diane Raphael
Okay.
Paul Scheer
She keeps the list. It's in her bullet journal.
June Diane Raphael
No, but I do wonder if kids now conceive of it in that way of, like, you're either like, stephanie Zanoni was so cool. Like, do they still think of kids as. Are we post cool? Is everybody just, like, on. You know, everybody's got their own YouTube channel, and that's great, or I think.
Jason Mantzoukas
It'S cool is more of the question. Cause I'm sure there is still a hierarchy, but what is it predicated on now? That's what I Wonder, I wonder what? I know I'm gonna regret this. What do you wonder?
Anna Faris
I wonder when the fuck you're gonna stop talking. Cause I'm bored.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, I love you.
Paul Scheer
Obviously there's a lot of things to say and if you want to continue to keep this conversation going, you can call us at 61 9.
Anna Faris
I love you.
Paul Scheer
Just I love you. 619 Paul ask. And you can leave your own correction and omission or whatever you want to talk about. We'll play it on our mini episode 619 Paul Ask. And we'll definitely check in with our good friend Blake J. Harris, who's going to be talking to some of the players from this film to find out some behind the scenes info. But now before we go, we go around the table. I think the answers are clear. Would you recommend this movie? Would you recommend people to watch this movie? In regards to this podcast, that's what I would say.
Jason Mantzoukas
Like not yeah, for me, absolutely. But don't be afraid. In my opinion, I would say in like the opening number, there's a lot of numbers that you can fast forward through because the songs are not relevant to the story.
June Diane Raphael
The only numbers that you should fast forward through are the T Bird, like weird number where they do the silhouettes while they're practicing. Like, you absolutely should fast forward through that. And that's it. Nope, Mother, that's it.
Jason Mantzoukas
Because this movie is straight up two hours long. I would speed through the entirety of the opening first day of school.
Paul Scheer
That's like 11 minutes.
Jason Mantzoukas
There are no lyrics. It's seven minutes long. It's seven minutes long. And it's, that's, that's all of it. It is not worth it.
June Diane Raphael
It is worth it because at the very end of it, when a kid, you think the song's over and then a kid love that moment over the window and jumps in.
Jason Mantzoukas
Love that moment.
June Diane Raphael
And then they end it. It's worth the whole thing.
Jason Mantzoukas
In fact, it's not. But I also, if you like jumping.
Paul Scheer
I prefer the end of the movie where they all jump and it freezes. I like that.
Jason Mantzoukas
If you think, oh, I wonder if I could fast forward right now. You can, but 100% watch.
Anna Faris
Okay. My two cents. As on affairs, Jason Manduka hit me on the shoulder. It still hurts. So it turns out he's weirdly strong, but also he can't eat eggs. So yes, I recommend Grease too.
Paul Scheer
I, I, I also recommend, I recommend this movie because it's not, it's not all, it's not bad. It's just.
Jason Mantzoukas
And it.
Paul Scheer
This is. I did some research on it and I found out simply this. The script was not written by the time they started shooting.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, wow.
Paul Scheer
So Dee Dee Cohn as Frenchie was written in when they started shooting, but written out by the time the movie stopped shooting. So it wasn't that she is not in it. It's like they rewrote the script throughout shooting that her character was eliminated. So I feel like that's what you're watching. A lot of the substitute teacher comes in Tap Hunter and his story is like, man, everybody's like kind of things are introduced and whether or not they come out in the wash, we don't know.
Jason Mantzoukas
It's a mess of a movie, but it's not. But there's.
Paul Scheer
It's in that way.
June Diane Raphael
It's so much joy in it.
Jason Mantzoukas
But June is what June loves about it is. There is.
Paul Scheer
If you were held in a basement and watched this movie 200 times, you would also grow to love it.
Anna Faris
Yes.
Jason Mantzoukas
If you had Stockholm syndrome for this movie.
Paul Scheer
This is a Stockholm syndrome.
Jason Mantzoukas
You would also think it. It was good.
Anna Faris
Who's gonna chain me into a basement?
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, boy.
Paul Scheer
Oh, it would be like a sloth from Goonies if he was watching Grease do.
Anna Faris
Someone chain me into it's room.
Jason Mantzoukas
It's room with one vhs.
Anna Faris
Make me watch Grease do.
Paul Scheer
That's that.
Anna Faris
Never. Never.
Paul Scheer
You'll win an Oscar. You'll win an Oscar for the Jason keeps you in a basement.
Jason Mantzoukas
And I watch make you watch Grease too.
June Diane Raphael
I mean, it's like Michelle Pfeiffer dancing around like, what's the problem? What is the problem here?
Anna Faris
Can I please like a little more split pee or.
Jason Mantzoukas
No, keep watching. You'll get soup. When you know all the lyrics to Cool Rider.
Anna Faris
I'm a cool, cool writer.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, God.
Paul Scheer
Oh, my God.
Jason Mantzoukas
Cut that into the song phase.
Paul Scheer
Anna, you have an amazing podcast that we've all been guests on now, and you should definitely check it out. It's called Anna Faris Unqualified. It comes out every Tuesday. Awesome. Definitely check that show out if you've not listened to it. Amazing episodes there. What's a good starter episode that you would tell people?
Anna Faris
I would say, actually Paul Scheer.
Paul Scheer
No.
Anna Faris
Yes, Paul Scheer and Jason Manzoukas and now June Diane Raphael and then also your hit show. And I thank you so much for being here.
Paul Scheer
Your hit show is on CBS.
Anna Faris
Oh, yeah.
Paul Scheer
Killing It Thursday nights at 9pm Yeah.
Anna Faris
I guess it's called Mom.
Paul Scheer
It is called Mom.
Jason Mantzoukas
And that's the Title. It is called Mom.
Paul Scheer
Yeah, it's a long.
Anna Faris
Oh, really?
Paul Scheer
It is called Mom. Wait, what was it the show is called? It is called Mom.
Anna Faris
Oh, okay.
Paul Scheer
It is called Mom. All right, Jason, what do you want to plug?
Jason Mantzoukas
As of right now, you have had two weeks to watch Gilmore Girls. I am on the episode called Spring, guys. My dreams all came true.
Anna Faris
Gilgal are spring.
Jason Mantzoukas
Thank you, honey. Watch the four episodes of Gilmore Girls, A year in the Life. And also, and this is going sideways completely from our podcast network, but there is an amazing podcast right now called Crime Town.
June Diane Raphael
Ooh, I'm writing that down.
Jason Mantzoukas
That is unreal. Every good rhyme, every season is a. Is a deep dive into the crime of one city. The inaugural season is going on right now, and it is Providence, Rhode island, and it is fascinating. It is called Buddy Crime time. Buddy seancing. No, it is like a documentary series. Podcast documentary.
June Diane Raphael
So if it's on gimlet. Things that we like. I've been really into the CNBC show the Prophets, starring Marcus Lemon, and he's.
Jason Mantzoukas
A nice Greek man. He's a nice Greek man.
June Diane Raphael
He's a nice, lovely Greek man.
Jason Mantzoukas
I love that show as well.
Anna Faris
We're talking about things we like. I like Daniel Tiger's neighborhood.
June Diane Raphael
I do, too.
Paul Scheer
Me too. That's amazing.
June Diane Raphael
I don't know what that is for Halloween. Oh, it's amazing. It's a child's show.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, that's why I don't know what it is, by the way. Thank God. I don't know what it is. Right? What if I was like, I also love that. Wouldn't you be like, ooh, boy, that's worrisome.
Paul Scheer
You could definitely check me out on that star show, Blunt Talk with Patrick Stewart. I think I am on this week. Or I was on last week.
Jason Mantzoukas
Nice.
Paul Scheer
Figure it out.
Jason Mantzoukas
Watch it.
Paul Scheer
All right, that is all. A big thank you to the amazing people that put this show together. First of all, thank you to everybody here at the Unqualified Compound for hosting us. Here to Avril Halley, who gets all of our clips. You can follow her on Movie Bitches on YouTube. July Diaz, who does all the listening and making sure the show sounds good. Nate Kiley does all of our research. Mrs. Itzel puts it all together. Leanna Waldron designs all of our cool stuff. And everybody at Earwolf, thank you so much. Bye. Bye.
June Diane Raphael
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In this matinee episode of "How Did This Get Made?" Paul Scheer, June Diane Raphael, and Jason Mantzoukas are joined by actress and comedy icon Anna Faris to deconstruct the notorious 1982 musical sequel Grease 2. Broadcasting from Anna's Unqualified studio, the crew dives into the camp, the chaos, and the curious cult following of a film many consider one of history’s most famously bad sequels. Equal parts nostalgia, critique, and roast, the conversation ranges from sexual politics to personal obsessions, generational views on "cool," and everything in between.
“I look at this movie as like it was a sexual awakening for me. I was obsessed with Michael Carrington. ... Watching it today, I felt a lot of the same feelings.” (06:35)
“This movie, for me as a young girl, was more ... there are themes in this movie.” (07:56–08:15)
“I’ve never seen [Grease 2] before. It is unequivocally terrible. The songs are awful.” (07:20)
“The songs in Greece are story songs ... the songs in this movie do not do that. ... The bowling song ... is not forwarding the story at all.” — Jason (20:17)
“This movie is horny in a way that is like aimless.” — Jason (13:23) “It’s just like Grease with a hard on.” — Paul (13:30)
“We have to talk about the idea ... of Michelle Pfeiffer’s virginity.” (26:47)
“Are millennials post-virginity?” — Jason (29:07) “Is everybody just, like, on their own YouTube channel ... are we post-cool?” — June (62:10)
“That whole number is thrilling to me.” — June (26:42) “Except for Reproduction ... and Cool Rider.” — June (53:01)
“That is a date rape song. ... The song is basically guilting her into sex before the country.” — Jason (49:48–49:57)
“A sure fire way to know that you’re not in a good musical is when your opening musical number has no one singing on screen.” — Paul (13:47)
“Some dude’s junk falls out of his pants ... he’s trying to tuck them back in for the rest of the run.” — Paul (39:03–40:40)
The episode is a riotous celebration/roast of a film whose failures are also its joys. Ultimately, “How Did This Get Made?” deems Grease 2 a time capsule: a testament to adolescent longing, female icons like Michelle Pfeiffer, and the power of repeated viewing (or Stockholm Syndrome). Whether you love it, hate it, or just can’t look away, Grease 2 has earned its place in the pantheon of movies that are “so bad they’re ... well, something else entirely.”
Recommended For: Fans of musical misfires, pop culture autopsies, and listeners who love when a film can unite a room in laughter, confusion, embarrassment, and nostalgia—all at once.