Podcast Summary: How Did This Get Made? — Hard Target LIVE! (HDTGM Matinee)
Podcast: How Did This Get Made?
Hosts: Paul Scheer, June Diane Raphael, Jason Mantzoukas
Episode: "Hard Target LIVE! (HDTGM Matinee)"
Date: February 3, 2026
Location: Live in New Orleans
Episode Overview
This live episode brings the HDTGM crew—Paul, June, and Jason—to New Orleans to discuss the 1993 Jean-Claude Van Damme classic "Hard Target," directed by John Woo. The group dives into the wild excesses and idiosyncrasies of this action movie, a film where homeless veterans are hunted for sport in New Orleans by Lance Henriksen’s villainous character and his cronies. The episode features classic HDTGM banter, crowd interactions, deep dives into movie logic (or its absence), sartorial choices, mullets, violence, and the weird magic of both John Woo and Jean-Claude Van Damme movies.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Initial Impressions and Plaudit for "Hard Target"
- June’s Surprising Admiration: June gushes about her love for the film, expressing confusion over why it isn’t on more esteemed movie review podcasts.
"I don't know why we're doing this movie on this podcast and not unspooled." (06:19, June)
- Praise for Cast and Director: The trio celebrates John Woo's directorial choices and highlights Jean-Claude Van Damme's restrained (by his standards) performance as potentially his best.
“JCVD perhaps. Never better.” (07:17, Jason)
- Van Damme's Accent: The only city where his Belgian-French accent fits: New Orleans.
“A city in which his accent somehow works. The only place.” (07:25, Jason)
2. The Jean-Claude Van Damme Factor
- Bunless Van Damme: The hosts point out the lack of signature Van Damme butt shots in this movie.
“This is a bunless Jean Claude Van Damme movie.” (07:54, Jason)
- Physical Presentation: Extended discussion about his mullet, billowy shirts, and slow-motion shots emphasizing his look more than his acting.
“Maybe John Woo's best movie for his aggressive, slow mo is just Jean Claude Van Damme's body.” (08:45, Jason)
- Dialogue Limitations & Movie Logic: The crew observes June's discomfort whenever Van Damme's character says “daddy," highlighting the strange energy in his attempts at emotional dialogue.
“It seems that no one ever taught him the word dad in English.” (09:28, June)
3. Lance Henriksen: Villain Par Excellence
- Standout Performance: Henriksen’s intensity and awareness of the genre are a big highlight.
“Lance Hendrickson is now, I think, my favorite How Did This Get Made actor. Not because he's bad, is because no matter what movie, he is amazing.” (11:30, Paul)
- Behind-the-Scenes Anecdotes: The infamous scene where Henriksen was actually set on fire and kept acting, which made the final cut.
“Lance Henriksen caught fire during the movie, did not break character, and they left it all in the film.” (12:47, Paul)
4. Movie Setting and Absurdities
- Empty New Orleans Streets: Observations about the surreal emptiness of the French Quarter, justified by the police strike plot point.
“The whole movie. The streets of New Orleans are empty, which is legitimately impossible...” (14:06, Jason)
- Police and Unions: June wonders aloud about the detective’s position on the union battle and the force's general absence.
“It looks like her entire force is protesting and on strike outside except for her.” (15:03, June)
- Baffling Production Choices: Regular digressions on oddities, such as Van Damme's improbable local background and Wilford Brimley's Cajun accent.
5. Action Sequences & Stunt Talk
- Weapons and Fights: The movie showcases everything from arrow-launching rifles to excessive gunplay to Van Damme’s thighs as secret weapons.
“We're showcasing different types of weapons... And JCVD's thighs.” (29:38, June)
- Physics-Defying Fights: Jason points out JCVD’s impossible martial arts, especially against helmeted assailants.
“He would have been like kablam. And his entire leg would have been like dust.” (29:27, Jason)
- Chase and Stunts: Extended talk about the iconic motorcycle bridge stunt (62:55), with Jason noticing the presence of a stunt double and commenting on the logistics of the character's skills.
6. Character Interactions and Plot Holes
- Unlikely Romance: The hosts note the lack of chemistry and on-again, off-again “mouth issues” between Van Damme and the female lead.
“It wasn’t the right time. This movie didn’t really understand. Like, it’s like, oh, your friend just died. Give me those lips…” (20:49, Paul)
- Supporting Cast: The death of the detective is acknowledged as a misstep, with June lamenting the lack of payoff for a compelling character.
- Rich Hunt the Poor: Discussion about the film’s central concept, skewered for being so one-sided.
“This movie is about the rich hunting the poor against their knowledge. Really.” (10:23, Paul)
7. John Woo’s Stylistic Signatures
- Slow-Motion and Doves: Slow-motion is used with abandon, sometimes for inexplicable scenes (paying for gumbo). Pigeons—John Woo's avatar for doves—serve as unlikely helpers for JCVD.
“This is signature John Woo doves and pigeons. This is a. This is one of John Woo's artistic signatures, which is slow motion doves.” (71:07, Jason)
- Western Tropes and Editing: John Woo incorporates Western visual cues, especially with Lance Henriksen’s piano scene and his use of wipe edits reminiscent of Star Wars/serials.
“This movie has full swipe edits throughout that are like Star Wars that are from 30s and 40s serials. It’s fucking nuts.” (65:38, Jason)
8. Wilford Brimley’s Iconic Role
- Late-Entrant MVP: His late introduction and over-the-top Cajun accent become running jokes, coupled with his inexplicable survival skills and use of bird calls.
“Wilford Brimley is his uncle. Or just does he refer to him—Uncle and he was raised in the bayou.” (32:28, June)
- Attempt at a Creole Accent: The hosts marvel at Brimley’s accent and acting choices.
“He’s made a choice and he's regretting it.” (67:07, Paul)
9. Audience Q&A and Live Energy
- Live Insights: Audience questions dig into weird movie logic (the river escape rule, the role of birds, the misfit arsenal), local New Orleans knowledge, and what could have been with the villains as central characters.
- Running Gags: The audience and hosts riff on the phrase “daddy,” the erotic energy of the villain pairs, and technical explanations of firearms and snakes.
10. Final Thoughts and Five-Star Review Segment
- Amazon Review Highlights: Hilarious, oddly personal, or off-topic five-star Amazon reviews are read and discussed.
“This one's for the Husbands.” (78:17, Jason)
- Box Office Stats: The financial performance is contextualized—solid but nowhere near the blockbusters of its year.
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)
- On Van Damme’s Accent in New Orleans:
Jason: "A city in which his accent somehow works. The only place." (07:25) - June on the Movie’s Quality:
June: "God, but I love this movie. I don't. No notes. Really, It's." (06:43) - On Henriksen Acting While on Fire:
Paul: “Lance Henriksen caught fire during the movie, did not break character, and they left it all in the film.” (12:47) - On “Daddy”:
June: “It seems that no one ever taught him the word dad in English.” (09:28) - On the Unfairness of the ‘Game’:
June: “We just wish it were more evenly matched.” (45:16) - On Birds as Woo’s Signature:
Jason: “This is signature John Woo doves and pigeons.” (71:07) - On Wilford Brimley’s Cajun Accent:
Paul: “He’s made a choice and he's regretting it.” (67:07) - On Excess Explosions:
Jason: "I did love that in this movie, all bullets seemed to explode with the. To the level of a landmine every time they hit." (80:23) - On Pigeon Chemistry:
Jason: “When Jean Claude Van Damme winks at the pigeon on his shoulder...they have more chemistry than him and Nat.” (71:49) - On the Villains Stealing the Show:
Jason: "The franchise is built around the bad guys. Wouldn't that be cool?" (74:19) - On Film’s Box Office:
Paul: "It comes out the same year as Jurassic Park, Mrs. Doubtfire, the Fugitive. It came in 48th." (82:05)
Highlighted Scenes & Timestamps
| Timestamp | Segment/Topic | |-----------|---------------------------------------------------| | 03:10 | Overview of "Hard Target" and its premise | | 06:19 | June’s praise for the film | | 08:45 | Discussion of Van Damme’s physique and slow-mo | | 12:47 | Lance Henriksen’s on-set fire story | | 17:56 | Plot holes: police union strike and empty city | | 20:43 | Unconvincing romance and “mouth issue” scenes | | 27:46 | John Woo’s arbitrary slow-motion sequences | | 31:51 | Guitar solo soundtrack and bayou realism | | 44:56 | Commentary on the movie's “Most Dangerous Game” plot | | 56:14 | The infamous snake-punching scene | | 62:55 | Motorcycle bridge stunt and stunt double sighting | | 65:38 | John Woo’s Star Wars-style swipe edits | | 66:18 | Wilford Brimley’s Cajun accent | | 71:07 | Audience Q&A and pigeon/dove signature | | 74:19 | Villain spinoff fantasy | | 78:17 | Five-star Amazon reviews | | 82:05 | Box office discussion and closing remarks |
Tone & Language Notes
- Tone is raucous, irreverent, and affectionate, mixing detailed film analysis with unrestrained comedy.
- The trio’s chemistry is strong, with overlapping conversations, playful ribbing, and plenty of improv.
- The audience’s participation adds a level of chaos and New Orleans-specific flavor.
Conclusion
For diehard HDTGM fans or curious newcomers who haven't seen "Hard Target," this episode delivers everything: hilarious observations, deep-dive movie logic debates, live show unpredictability, and a perfect blend of ridicule and celebration for a John Woo/Van Damme camp classic. Whether it's scrutinizing mullets, questioning snake physics, or deciphering Wilford Brimley's accent, the crew’s infectious passion makes for an essential listen (or read).
