
Emergency Geek Sqwad episode! That's right, Jason & Paul welcome our Gen-Z intern Quinn to tackle the Geek Sqwad representation on the cover of Vanity Fair's Hollywood Issue. But first, Paul answers all your Corrections & Omissions on My Boyfriend's Back and shares a bonus deleted scene from the episode. And as always, at the end of the show we announce next week's movie!
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Sebastian Maniscalco
Don't miss Sebastian Maniscalco's new stand up special It Ain't Right, Premiering on Hulu November 21st. Filmed live at the sold out United center arena in Chicago, Sebastian's newest special features his larger than life presence, one of a kind physical comedy and hilarious everyday observations that will keep you laughing non stop. Sebastian goes all in on family chaos, aging, non existent manners and life's most relatable and frustratingly funny moments. Watch Sebastian Maniscalco it ain't right on November 21st streaming on Hulu and Hulu on Disney for bundled subscribers terms apply.
Paul Scheer
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My childhood trauma gets even more traumatic. The Truth About Zombies and Jason and I talk about the Coen Brothers for three and a half hours. Yes, you'll hear all about this and more on today's how did this Get Made? Last Looks Hit the theme. Hello all my fellow Paw Ticklers. It's me, your host, Paul Scheer. And welcome to how did this Get Made? Last Looks, where you, the listener, get to voice your issue on movies like My Boyfriend's Back, a film that Discord user Dr. Guts thinks should have had the tagline My Boyfriend's Back. It's the Necrophilia. Good movie of the year. All right. Pretty Good. Thank you Dr. Guts for that alt movie tagline and a big shout out to Bears and Love for that opening theme song. You know, the Last Looks episode depends on you, your calls, your comments, your songs, your alt movie taglines. Well, how do you submit? Well, it's easy. Just go on the Discord at Discord GG hdtgm and you can submit your own alt movie tagline. But if you are more of a song person, well just go to hdtgm.com, click the submit a song button and you can live the same kind of glory that bears in love got today when I thanked them for that opening theme song. Now I gotta tell you, we released our first ever video clip of how did this get made? This is not gonna be a normal thing. We just wanted to play with it for one time. We may do it again. But I have to say the reaction to it was amazing. We got over a million views in just two days on Instagram. And I want to say this, if you like seeing us live and in person, well guess what? This holiday season you can see Jason, June, myself and Jessica St. Clair all in the same room as we do our annual how did this Get Made Holiday special. That's right, December 10th, 6pm Pacific Time. We're all going to be in the dark web studio broadcasting together. It is going to be live on Veeps, but your ticket will allow you to watch it anytime. So we are live worldwide with a holiday movie yet to be announced. People, get on it. Get on it and watch it. We will love to bring you into the live chat and more because we're stepping up our game. But don't worry about that. That's in the future. Right now we are going to get into what's on your mind. We're going to dig into the corrections and omissions of my boyfriend's back and we'll even share an exclusive deleted scene from our episode. And later in the episode, Jason stops by because we have an emergency to talk about. That's right, Vanity Fair has released three covers labeling the boys of Hollywood, which seemed very similar to the Geek Squad. We have opinions and we're going to bring on our 21 year old intern to help break it all down. So that's in just a little bit. And boy, we got a lot to say about this. Anyway, last as always, I will reveal the movie for next week's episode. And let me tell you, we got so much good stuff coming up here. We're bringing you into December with a lot of Christmas. So enjoy your Thanksgiving and then go full on Christmas with how did this get made? You could catch June in weapons. Right now streaming on hbo Max, Jason is on the second season of the man on the Inside. And guess what? Dark Web every Monday completely free on YouTube. We are lost in the woods and we are introducing our very first special guest. You don't want to miss that, so check all of that out. Our last episode was just for YouTube kids. We're doing weird stuff and it started off one way and we're growing, we're changing. We also got merch. Anyway, don't worry about that, because right now I want to worry about you. Let's get into it. Let's talk about my boyfriend's back. We had questions. We might have even missed a few things. Here is your chance to set us straight. Fact check us, if you will. It is now time for corrections and omissions. It is time for correction and omissions. It is time for correction and omissions. It is time for correction and omissions. It is time for correction and omissions. Thank you, Mike Thomas, for that theme song that Ruled. I love that. Let's go to the discord. Dell Preston writes, Paul said that Andrew Lowry was 23 when this came out, as does the IMDb's movie page. But the birth date listed on Andrew's own IMDb page would have made him 29. This makes so much more sense. I was so annoyed with this piece of misinformation that I submitted an edit to IMDb to correct it and it was accepted. All right, there we go. There we go. Now, I don't understand how the movie's IMDb page is different than his own IMDb page. But. But, Dell, you took matters into your own hand. You didn't just complain. You brought it to the manager and the manager fixed it. This is a good example of our community working together to make things better. All right, Corgi Herder writes, when the sheriff comes in to check on his daughter Missy, he's holding a musical lesson book for accordion, guitar, piano, and organization. And it's in Spanish. We never see him play music and they never speak Spanish. Now, I checked this out. Yes, that is true. I mean, we know he didn't speak Spanish, but yes, there is a book for accordion, guitar, piano, and organ. And let me tell you, I think this movie could have used the sheriff speaking in Spanish and playing in accordion. I think it would have been really, truly the thing that brought this movie just over the edge. Now, Dr. Guts isn't just about alt movie taglines. He's also coming to us with information. And Dr. Guts writes this. Part of the reason why the title probably doesn't make much sense is that it was originally called Johnny Zombie and the studio changed it. Okay, now we're getting to something. Why well, in an interview with writer Dean Laurie, he explained that Disney asked to change the title and the film's original premise. Laurie said, look, the. The title was much better, and my original script was much better. I thought, you know, it's funny because without going into the plot, there was a whole world of zombies that lived in the cemetery. This kid Johnny is the only one that left the cemetery to go to the prom. But the rule was, as soon as you left the cemetery, you begin to decay like a regular zombie. I think, by the way, this is Paul talking. That's also part of the premise of Dead Heat. Anyway, we'll get into it. So I go to Disney for my very first meeting to get notes on the script. They say, hey, we love the script. It's so funny. The first thing we want to do is get rid of the zombies. I said, well, it's called Johnny Zombie. It's about these zombies. And they go, yeah, we just want the one zombie. So right then literally half the movie gets thrown out. Oh, my gosh, I feel bad for Dean Laurie. It's hard. It is hard to be a screenwriter in this town. I mean, now, especially because a lot of people not working at all. But back then, hard, too. All right, let's go to the phones. Mike from New Jersey, what do you got?
Caller Mike
Hey, everyone. Big fan of the show. Just wanted to reach out. And while my boyfriend's back was such a fantastic episode, I did want to say Jason was seemingly confounded that zombies would be eating flesh and not brains. But actually, George Romero's Night of the Living dead from the 60s, which kind of establishes the Americanized version of zombies. They were flesh eaters. They were not after brains. I don't think until Return of the Living Dead kind of established that trope. So thank you for all the entertainment. Keep going. We love you. Bye.
Paul Scheer
Okay, that's what I like to hear. Mike bringing in some hard zombie facts, huh? I like flesh more. I think flesh is better than brains. Who wants to disagree with me? I don't know. Brain seems like. I don't know. It seems trite, seems silly. Flesh. Let them eat flesh. That's what Marie Antoinette said, right? Let them eat flesh. I'm not sure. Anyway, let's go to the phones now to hear from Mary Kate.
Caller Mary Kate
Hi, Paul. I had to pause the most current episode, My Boyfriend's Back, because just like it unlocked a childhood memory for you, it unlocked one for me. This movie came out when I was in first grade, and it's problematic that I watched it through a seven year old lens. However, I discovered that this is where my irrational fear of zombies and my reoccurring nightmares of zombies originated from. So I really appreciate this episode and uncovering this traumatic nightmare experience for myself as a 7 year old. Thank you.
Paul Scheer
Bye, Mary Kate. Of course, that is what this show is supposed to do. Unlock childhood trauma. I wrote a whole book about it. By the way. Great gift for the holidays. Now with the paperback edition. It's a stocking stuffer. I'll even sign it. But you could just get that bunch of extra pages and then the website has a bunch of fun stuff. If you've read the book. I mean, you can go look at it. Just won't make as much sense cause I did it myself. Anyway, thank you, Mary Kate. And I want to apologize just for a second about that joke I made about Marie Antoinette. All right, Mike from Orlando, what do you got?
Caller Mike
Hey guys. Just watched My Boyfriend's back and it's a fun fact that Jason mentioned it felt like Buffy because the lead actor was in Buffy one year prior playing the douchey friend of Buffy's boyfriend, which is a mouthful. Anyway, thought that was fun. Please come to Orlando and you brace yourself. Bye. Bye.
Paul Scheer
Well, Mike, let's check it out. Yep. He is also talking about Buffy the Vampire Slayer, the Christy Swanson version, which you know, as true Buffy fans are known to. I mean, look, do we accept it? Yeah, we do. But that's not the one I'm talking about most of the time. I'm not talking about that one. It's actually better than you think. Paul Rubens is very good in that movie. Kristy Swanson too, I guess. Yeah, I mean, I. I haven't watched it enough to have an opinion on. On it, but that's not the Buffy. But I do appreciate this information. Thank you, Mike from Orlando. Let's go back to the discord. M no Land. M no Land. Okay, M no Land writes, Tracy Lind accused Dodi Fayed of abuse in 1997, but dated her much earlier in the late 80s, early 90s, possibly even when My Boyfriend's Back was filming. In 1997, Fayed was engaged to model and aspiring actress Kelly Fisher and basically jolted her on with his father's encouragement for Princess Diana as portrayed in the Crown. In fact, Kelly Fisher held a press conference in the middle of 97 with her lawyer, Gloria Allred, where she announced that she was suing Fayed, but dropped the suit two weeks later after Dodie and Diana died. If Tracy Lynn's accusations about Dodie's abuse during their relationship happened two weeks before he died. It would make sense that they possibly were related to Fisher's lawsuit. But Lind had not been dating him for a few years at that time. You are 100% right, Mnoland. I just kind of took some of those facts out because it just got to be a lot of names and things we didn't know. So, yes and no. You are right. I knew it. You're correcting me. You're right, too. I knew it. I just kind of held it back. But there we go. The wild and weird world of Dodi Fayed. Wow. I also like that his dad encouraged him. You know, dump. Dump that zero and get with that hero. Del Preston writes. Oh. Back with another revelation. Dell, here we go. The secret pause for nudity moment in Teen Wolf might exist after all. Wait a second, Dell, what are you talking about? Okay, right at the end, after they won the basketball game against the bullies team. Oh, I know about this. And that is a spoiler. The camera pans out to show the whole stadium and people cheering from the bleachers. But there's one woman in the crowd wearing a red sweater and blue jeans, and her fly is undone all the way. She tries to zip it up and then cover it with a jacket, but she is also still trying to cheer with her arms in the air. So you do see blurry underwear. Okay, I thought somebody's penis was out in that movie. Maybe I'm wrong. But you know what? Our friends, our good friends over at the confused breakfast, they actually pulled this moment. And you can watch it. And apparently the extra said that her pants are so tight that she unzipped them. So there you go. She's reacting as if she didn't know she was gonna have to get up. Even though it's a scripted film, it's like the team was gonna win anyway. I'm not gonna get too caught up in that extra story. But you know what? Anytime. To see underwear as a child is a good time. Radek writes. Not a correction or omission, but I have a big theory. On Brian Orlando's nudity remote, he totally walked in on his dad watching a porn, right? And as the dad tried to think fast of being caught, he was like, oh, yeah, there's actually normal tv, but the special remote I had in my hand and makes these women naked, and I must have activated it by mistake. Whoa. Radic, Radic, what did you do? You just broke my whole brain open. That's a crazy. That's A crazy wow.
June Diane Raphael
Wow.
Paul Scheer
I love that idea. I love that idea. And you know what? By the way, Orlando's Electronics, that shirt, that sticker, everything about it is available now on our how did this get Made Store. Just go to hdtgm.com and get yourself an Orlando's Electronics shirt.
June Diane Raphael
But wow.
Paul Scheer
You know what? Honestly, Radek, I haven't had my breath taken away like this in a very, very long time. And I think without any further ado, I must say, Radek, you are this week's correction and omission winner. Embrace yourself. Yeah, you brace yourself for this amazing song from our friends, the Action Jackson 5. All right, if you want to chime in with your own thoughts about the latest episode, hit up our discord. Our call us at 619p a u l a S K. Coming up after the break, Jason will stop by for just chat. And if you want even more of me and Jason this week, well, guess what? We're on blank check, baby. That's right. Jason and I are on blank check for 3 hours and 45 minutes talking about the Ballad of Buster Scruggs. And if you're still not full of me and Jason, well, guess what? I'm on. Conan needs a friend this week I return. Had a great time with Conan. He is the absolute best. All right, so you got a lot of Paul and Jason and Conan listening coming up. But get ready, because after the break, we're going to add even more to the pile. But first, take a listen to this bonus deleted scene from My Boyfriend's Back. As we talk about 90s movies and.
June Diane Raphael
Laserdiscs, it's also like, not. This movie had none of what I consider to be the 90s hallmarks. You know, it feels like it's an 80s movie because it's playing in that sandbox.
Paul Scheer
Come out 94. I thought a year later I had it on laserdisc. So I'm trying to think of what. Oh, yeah, I'd really advise. Are you still pausing on LaserDisc?
Caller Mary Kate
And did it make it easier?
Paul Scheer
Well, I was too busy flipping it.
June Diane Raphael
Flipping it.
Paul Scheer
Oh, remember the movie?
June Diane Raphael
Remember when the. The player. The laserdisc player that flipped it itself.
Paul Scheer
Oh, I got you. Oh, that was a game.
June Diane Raphael
Gen X. Let's go.
Caller Mary Kate
Listen, I know I've said this before.
Paul Scheer
But the first time I went to Paul's apartment in New York City, I.
Caller Mary Kate
Saw, you know, a cabinet full of.
Paul Scheer
Laser discs and I thought, all right, I'm still upset.
June Diane Raphael
I'm still upset. You don't have those anymore.
Paul Scheer
I know. Me too.
Sebastian Maniscalco
Don't miss Sebastian Maniscalco's new stand up special It Ain't Right, Premiering on Hulu November 21st. Filmed live at the sold out United center arena in Chicago, Sebastian's newest special features his larger than life presence, one of a kind physical comedy and hilarious everyday observations that will keep you laughing non stop. Sebastian goes all in on family chaos, aging, non existent manners and life's most relatable and frustratingly funny moments. Watch Sebastian Maniscalco it ain't right on November 21st. Streaming on Hulu and Hulu on Disney plus for bundle subscribers terms apply.
Paul Scheer
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June Diane Raphael
Just chat.
Paul Scheer
Jason. Big news in the world of the Geek Squad.
June Diane Raphael
You know what? Here we are. Emergency episode.
Paul Scheer
Emergency episode. We must address that. Vanity Fair has attempted to put together their version of the Geek Squad and.
June Diane Raphael
Have trying to codify the Geek Squad.
Paul Scheer
And you know what?
June Diane Raphael
Nice try, print journalism.
Paul Scheer
You didn't do it. We were there before you. And I think we have some major issues.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah.
Paul Scheer
Now, if you are not familiar with what's going on in the Vanity Fair world, well, let me tell you, this week they released their Hollywood edition of.
June Diane Raphael
Vanity Fair, which I will say I always love. It's been my favorite issue since I had a Vanity Fair subscription when I was a teenager.
Paul Scheer
100%. I love it. Often times it's like your favorite actors all in these great tableaus.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah.
Paul Scheer
And it's. Yeah, it's great. Great interviews are in there. I love it. We love Vanity Fair. But they did select their own Geek Squad this year. They did a little bit differently. Three covers with three different sets of men on them.
June Diane Raphael
I'm so sorry, Paul. Paul, yes. So sorry, Paul.
Paul Scheer
Yes, yes, yes.
June Diane Raphael
Shut your mouth.
Paul Scheer
Wait. Okay. Yes.
June Diane Raphael
They are not men, as these covers tell us. These are the boys.
Paul Scheer
Oh, you're right. The boys.
June Diane Raphael
And that is quintessential for Geek Squad. These are boys. These are the boys. These are not our men. These are our boys.
Paul Scheer
These are our boys. And let me tell you, they have the ages of men. Because I will quickly give you the COVID selection right now. Cover one, Jeremy Allen White, 34. The bear, A$AP Rocky, 37. Oh, okay.
June Diane Raphael
Realize Rocky was that old.
Paul Scheer
Yeah, yeah. Glenn Powell, 37.
June Diane Raphael
Oh, my God.
Paul Scheer
Lakeith Stanfield, 34. Callum Turner, 35. Cover two, Riz Ahmed, 42.
June Diane Raphael
Wow, wow, wow.
Paul Scheer
Jonathan Bailey, People magazine's hottest man of 2025.
June Diane Raphael
Paul, I'm so sorry, I have to stop you. I think you mean sexiest Man.
Paul Scheer
You're right. You're right again. This is why I need.
June Diane Raphael
And if the. If these magazines collaborated, it would be Sexiest Boy and we'd all be on the Epstein list.
Paul Scheer
Jonathan Bailey, 37. Harris Dickinson, 29. Now we're get back to him in a second. Andrew Garfield, 42. And then we go to cover three, which is Paul McAl, 29.
June Diane Raphael
Great.
Paul Scheer
Michael B. Jordan, 38. And Austin Butler, 34.
June Diane Raphael
Okay, so some of our guys are in here.
Paul Scheer
Some of our guys are in here. Now, there's been a lot of debate. I mean, a lot of debate because I think that we've. We knocked off a couple of these guys. We knocked off interesting too.
June Diane Raphael
Well, some of these guys are just too old, you know, like I think. And. Or just have had two. Like. Like Michael B. Jordan's been acting since he was a kid. Fridays, the Wire, like, get him out of there. No way. Absolutely not.
Paul Scheer
Ag.
June Diane Raphael
Get Garfield out of there. I don't want any old spider man in my Geek Squad.
Paul Scheer
You can't have. I mean, Riz Ahmed, great actor. Don't incredible him as. First of all, don't view him as a boy.
June Diane Raphael
No.
Paul Scheer
And don't view him as part of the Geek Squad.
June Diane Raphael
No, he. Get him out of there. Geek Squad is for. I will say Geek Squad is for the boys.
Paul Scheer
I mean, 100%.
June Diane Raphael
I mean, the Bear. Geek Squad. Mezcal. Geek Squad. Harris Dickinson, Geek Squad. I mean, these are Geek squads.
Paul Scheer
And now here's the other thing. I will say that, you know, look, a lot of people have taken a lot of, you know, issue with the fact that there's only boys. No boys and girls, because we.
June Diane Raphael
This is. This is embarrassing. This is embarrassing for the. For Vanity Fair. This is just in a. What is this? Is this an attempt to speak to the male loneliness epidemic? To be like, hey, look at the boys. They boys can hang out together with.
Paul Scheer
These boys, I mean, they couldn't even get all the boys in one location together.
June Diane Raphael
They couldn't even get all the boys on one under one umbrella.
Paul Scheer
Paul. Yes.
June Diane Raphael
There's some of these guys. If it rains, some of these guys are getting wet.
Paul Scheer
I mean, this is the thing. These boys are hard to pin down. Now, I will just remind our audience that our boys are boys. That we wanted to hear it for Timmy Chalamet. Why is he not on the list?
June Diane Raphael
I'm surprised Timmy's not on this. But by the way, if he turned it down, solid move.
Paul Scheer
I believe he did. By the way, did you see this thing that him and Adam Sandler did? It's my favorite. All right, so, you know, when the award seasons come, every studio kind of figures out different ways to promote their film. So a majority of these things are screenings. Right. But there's also a lot of press that goes on. Like you'll see that Adam Sandler is doing a sit down with David Letterman. Now, part of that is because, yes, Letterman wants to interview him. But also part of that is it is press for J. Kelly, the movie that is going to be nominated for Oscars. Now, what I saw this past weekend, it blew my mind. Timothy Chalamet and Adam Sandler played two on two basketball in a gymnasium with fans as part of their Academy Award promotion. They did like a 30 minute interview with each other. They interviewed each other and they played. That was first. They had two chairs facing each other. They had two chairs facing each other on a basketball court. They pulled those chairs away and then they just pulled people up from the audience and played two on two basketball.
June Diane Raphael
By the way, I love.
Paul Scheer
I love it.
June Diane Raphael
I think that's awesome. I only wish, I only wish that the interview had taken place during the game. So they, while they're playing, they're complimenting each other. You know, I mean, yeah, get it. That would have been very funny. Oh, I'll watch that.
Paul Scheer
That's cool. Oh, it's really made me laugh because I'm like, I sent it to a friend and they were like, this is clearly an example of like two actors going, we got this, Let us go. And it's great. It's actually more organic and more interesting than anything else I've seen. So Timmy Chalamet, Austin Butler. On our list, Nicholas Holt, Jeremy Allen White.
June Diane Raphael
I don't think Nick Holt is Geek Squad. I don't.
Paul Scheer
We kicked him off. I believe we did.
June Diane Raphael
Oh, okay.
Paul Scheer
Yeah. I'm just saying. But these were like. This is like what we were talking About.
June Diane Raphael
These are the people we just discussed.
Paul Scheer
Yes, these are people we discussed again because I don't think we ever really fully honed in. Yeah, we. We had moments, right. Jeremy Allen White. We kicked him off, but then we brought him back. But then we kicked him off again.
June Diane Raphael
I don't know. I mean, Jeremy Ellen White. I. I would kind. I think I would put in Geek Squad.
Paul Scheer
You would?
June Diane Raphael
You know, I, I think he's at the very least pledging Geek Squad. I. I don't know.
Paul Scheer
All right, all right. So this is interesting. This is in it. All right. This is interesting. Now we had Jacob Elordi not on the Vanity Fair covers in a big giant movie. Why is he not on the thing?
June Diane Raphael
It's interesting. He's not in there. Yeah. I would think maybe he's too tall for everybody. Maybe he would. Because all these guys, I think, are like under five, six.
Paul Scheer
Okay. So.
June Diane Raphael
And he's like six, seven or something. He's like James Comey height. He's like Greg Davies.
Paul Scheer
Do you think that people have, like, turned it down because maybe they didn't want to be one of the boys?
June Diane Raphael
Well, I do believe one of the things they, you know, like. Yes, I think some. I think absolutely. I think some people turn it down because I want to be the only person on the COVID Right. Of a magazine or I think publicists probably suggest that type of stuff in that same way that people are told to turn down Sexiest Man Alive that admit serious actors like, you know, you know, not that, Forgive me. Not that Jonathan Bailey. Jonathan Bailey is not.
Paul Scheer
I worked with Jonathan, as you know, I worked with him as a director. And I'm going to tell him. I'm going to tell him.
June Diane Raphael
I don't. I don't mean that in any kind of slight, but just that it is.
Paul Scheer
No, I hear what you're saying. Yes.
June Diane Raphael
But you know that it is something that people are told by publicists. So don't, don't solicit that kind of attention. You're in these kind of movies, right?
Paul Scheer
Exactly. Like. Like Timmy Chalamet would probably say no to Sexiest Man.
June Diane Raphael
Well, what did Leonardo DiCaprio say to him? Leonardo DiCaprio's advice to. It's famous to Timoth. Tell me there's no hard drugs, no superhero movies, no sequels, or there's a third one. It's not no sequels, but I can't remember. There's a third pillar to that which I think was very smart.
Paul Scheer
So I'm looking at these Vanity Fair covers and I'm like, All right, this is something where, you know, I. I feel like they missed the mark. I feel like they missed the mark. I feel like our mark was a little bit better because we did Barry Keogan, you know? Yeah. Why not? Why is he not here?
June Diane Raphael
Or maybe he's to. Maybe he's like the Geek Squad character actor, you know? I like him quite a bit.
Paul Scheer
I do, too. Now, I will say this. You weren't on this episode, but our intern Quinn, who is the youngest person on our entire staff, was able to put together her Geek Squad list. She had a little. She had some hot takes, and we're gonna bring her in a second.
June Diane Raphael
Great, great, great, great.
Paul Scheer
So she said. She said, put Jeremy Allen White back in the Geek Squad.
June Diane Raphael
We took him out. I'm okay with that. I'm okay with that.
Paul Scheer
She also put Zendaya back in. We kicked Zendaya out.
June Diane Raphael
Okay, so I have a. Well, when. When we talk. Yeah. I do have a question about. About my. My question is, should Geek Squad, like, what is the overlap for. For Geek Squad and, like, being on a Disney show or one of those kid shows, you know? And I guess that's for Jeremy Allen White, too. Cause he was like a kid on Shameless, so. Oh, I just saw him, too, being a very kid on an episode of Law and Order from a million years ago, and he looks like he's about 15 years old. It's wild.
Paul Scheer
Well, let's. I just want to give the rest of Quinn's takes, because.
June Diane Raphael
Let's go.
Paul Scheer
She said she'd kick out Austin Butler. Whoa. She'd kick out Jacob Elordi. What? She. Kick out Margaret Qualley.
June Diane Raphael
Okay.
Paul Scheer
Kick out Sydney Sweeney and her new pitches.
June Diane Raphael
Okay.
Paul Scheer
Rachel Sennett.
June Diane Raphael
Okay.
Paul Scheer
IO on the list. Rachel Zegler. On the list.
June Diane Raphael
Okay.
Paul Scheer
Barry Keoghan. You're okay. There it is.
June Diane Raphael
I don't know. Lady. And I thought this said Lady Gaga. That's so funny. From this distance. It says Lucas Gage, and I read it as Lady Gaga, and I was about to be like, quinn, what are you talking about?
Paul Scheer
Well, she's gonna have to defend all this and the Vanity Fair covers. Now here's. She did say Lucas Gage, and she replaced Nicholas Hoult, which we both agreed should not be in Geese Squad.
June Diane Raphael
I'm fine with this.
Paul Scheer
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Quinn Jennings
First of all, thank you for letting me speak on this issue. This feels very important. I am 21. I just won a month ago.
June Diane Raphael
Impossible.
Paul Scheer
This is why we need you here. We need to give you like at least I thought for some reason that you were 25. So this actually even this means the.
June Diane Raphael
Position is is uncomfortable though. Only only because for us as truly old people to Be. This is. This puts into stark contrast how old we are, you know, to talk to a genuinely young person. Okay.
Quinn Jennings
About.
June Diane Raphael
About the actors of your generation.
Paul Scheer
So now I guess my question to you is, how do you feel about these Vanity Fair covers? Your first take, because you've heard us talk about Geek Squad, and now you see, you see the covers. What. What do you. What are you feeling about these actors? Anybody that you would kick off, Anyone that you know, they got a lot right, according to you.
Quinn Jennings
Well, right away, I don't like that they're called boys.
June Diane Raphael
I agree. I agree. But this is, to me, like what we do. We just want boys right now, in a way.
Paul Scheer
But it says underneath our new class of leading men. So it's. Let's hear it for the boys. Our new class of leading men. It's weird. Yeah. The boy and boy. But boys is big. Boys is too big. And I feel like it. I don't know. I don't like boys either. I don't like it at all.
Quinn Jennings
I think some of these actors are a little too sophisticated for Geek Squad or what they're trying to do here.
Paul Scheer
Yes. Okay.
Quinn Jennings
So I would say Michael B. Jordan. Like, he, to me, is like, above in another class than some of these actors. I still am not sold on Austin Butler. I really. He looks kind of out of place in these photos. I don't know if it's just because he's wearing jeans, but I think he needs, like, one more meaty role for me to really.
June Diane Raphael
And some pleated pants.
Quinn Jennings
Yes. For me to really give in that he is one of the boys.
Paul Scheer
Now, Quinn, I do want to ask you, like, how would you define what the Geek Squad is? Because you've heard us try to tackle with a description for it. But, like, what would you. Because I like where you're going. I think your thinking is spot on. But, like, how would you describe what the Geek Squad should represent?
Quinn Jennings
I think it's up and coming actors. I think it's actors who would be seen at parties together not promoting something. People who would genuinely hang out as boys.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah. I think the part of it that's. I think, Quinn, you're absolutely right. Part of it is. And part of it building off of how this started with the Brat Pack of it, was that it also, to me, is who is around each other.
Paul Scheer
Right.
June Diane Raphael
So, you know, like, the groupings that are in movies together or, you know, like St. Elmo's Fire or like those movies that had groups of the Brat Pack or whatever, there's a bunch of these People that do fall into movies together and are seen together. And that, to me, is Geek Squad. You know, Michael B. Jordan feels, like, completely extricated from all of that noise and nonsense. He is, you know, like this, saying, our new class of leading men, Michael B. Jordan, has been a leading man already for years.
Paul Scheer
I mean, this is the next generation. I would argue that Michael B. Jordan is already ascended. He is in the. He is going forward. I think RZ Ahmed has gone forward. Like, if we're talking about Jeremy Allen White, I think he's on the cusp. I think that's why we were wrestling with him, because the bear is so big. But yet this Bruce Springsteen movie really flopped. So now it's like. I think it actually pushes him back a step in a.
June Diane Raphael
In a.
Paul Scheer
It puts him back in the pot a little bit more. Now, Jacob Elordi not being on this. What do you think? Good move, Bad move.
Quinn Jennings
I was very surprised that him and Timothee Chalamet were both not on it. I feel like you can't talk about leading men without talking about Timothee Chalamet. I think I'm fine with Jacob Elordi not being there, and I think I'm more fine with Timothee Chalamet not being there because of the disharmony kind of happening. I also think it's interesting. I think Harris Dickinson and Jeremy Allen White are maybe the only two that have actually been in a movie together.
Paul Scheer
Okay. I like this.
Quinn Jennings
And so to not put them on the same cover also feels a little awkward.
Paul Scheer
Yeah. Now, Harris Dickinson is a person I was not really familiar with at all.
June Diane Raphael
Baby girl.
Paul Scheer
Yeah. So this is it. You know, I got the triangle of. Oh, that guy. I am familiar. Okay. Yes. Okay. Sorry the name didn't ring out, but I like him. I like him a lot.
Quinn Jennings
See, and I think that's Geek Squad, too, is you're seeing them, you like them, but they're not quite.
Paul Scheer
They're not household names. Okay. I like this.
June Diane Raphael
All right. So that's why I like. Can you put Quinn's List up? I like the. The. The grouping of. I think you're right. Rachel Sennett IO that. That that crew hangs out together, that they appear in stuff.
Paul Scheer
Like.
June Diane Raphael
I think Rachel Sennett's new show has a bunch of her peer group inside of that. That's kind of Geek Squad adjacent. But they are, I don't know, cool in a way that Geek Squad kind of isn't. Maybe. I don't know. Maybe I'm just being. I just. I would Love to hang out with the group that is Rachel Sennett and I.O. and that crew, because they are. And Barry Keoghan. All that list you have there, Quinn, because that seems like a great hang, you know?
Paul Scheer
Right. But now I guess the question is, quinn, as a 21 year old, do you. Are there people like, are you going out and partying? Are. Is partying a part of this? Because maybe some of these people, to me, feel like they're not partying that much. That they feel like they are actually working on being professionals. Right. Like, that's something I also get from all these people. They take it very seriously. The Brat Pack didn't take it that seriously. The frat pack, we're like having fun. These people feel like, you know, it feels like Timothy Chalamet is learning how to play ping pong for five years and, you know, and Austin Butler's changed his vocal range for the rest of his life, you know, These people seem too intense. I don't know. I mean, is that. Do you think that they are. Do they seem fun to you?
Quinn Jennings
They feel like they wouldn't all hang out together. Everyone on these covers. I think maybe that's why they had to do three different versions, because they genuinely could not. Like, everyone would not vibe in a room together. The only person I would add to this array, I thought of Joe Alwyn because him and Paul Mess school were like. I think they were in a movie together. They did a lot of interviews together and they kind of were like, we're like the sad boys of Hollywood.
Paul Scheer
Right.
Quinn Jennings
And they tried to kind of coin that. So I think one cover could have been. They should have divided it by like, these are the people who really know how to party. These are the really hard workers. These are the sad boys. Yeah.
Paul Scheer
You know, because I do think there should have been some classes here because I would put like Riz Ahmed, Michael B. Jordan, Glenn Powell, like maybe together. Garfield and Andrew Garfield. Yes, like that. Like we're doing it. They're probably up against each other for different parts. Like, they're in one pocket. And then. Yeah, that. I think that there needed to be a better breakup. But here, the way that.
June Diane Raphael
What is. Sorry, Paul.
Paul Scheer
Yeah.
June Diane Raphael
What is Rocky? Aesop. Rocky is the only musician in here in a way that.
Paul Scheer
Well, he was in highest to lowest. Right?
June Diane Raphael
Oh, that must be it.
Paul Scheer
Okay. He was dope.
June Diane Raphael
You're absolutely.
Paul Scheer
But that dope is a long time ago.
June Diane Raphael
No, no, no, it's highest.
Quinn Jennings
If I had legs, I'd kick you as well.
Paul Scheer
Look at this. Quinn knows what the fuck? She's got it. She's excited for that movie.
June Diane Raphael
Excited for that movie.
Paul Scheer
All right, so overall, we look to you now to be our, our helper here. You know, this has been a highly debated thing. People come to us, they pitch us these things. Our hope was to get it out in the open. And I think that Vanity Fair is kicked, kicked the debate into full gear.
June Diane Raphael
I know that a lot of people are much, are very comfortable with men in their 50s discussing the youth of the, the young actors and actresses. So it is very good to have a representative of that generation. Thank you.
Paul Scheer
Quinn, I want to say one thing to you too. Like I, I. Not to put you on the spot, but I feel like this is so weird that it's just men. Like, like I, like I, I think it's weird because it, I. For so many reasons, but it like. And I get like they're trying to say this is our, the new leading men. But I would also argue for the most part, you look at most of these people and again I'm going to take out Michael B. Jordan of this mix and maybe Garfield. I'm gonna say that this, these are not leading men that you're look like this. I don't think most of America is going like that's our leading man. I think a Hollywood's new class of actors is a better thing. But I guess my thing is there's so many great people out there just to focus on men. I felt like it was. I feel like it would be a much more interesting list to mix it up. The Boys and Girls Club of America. And the club is Hollywood. That's what I, that would be my title.
Quinn Jennings
I think when I think of Geek Squad also I think of it being predominantly female because I think I can just think of more cool women than boys.
Paul Scheer
That's what I think. They part, they party more. They seem more fun, these guys. Yeah, you've articulated what I meant, which is these guys seem like nerds. They're gonna work on their stuff and then. And a lot of the other people seem like they are, they are more life of the party. They're more like, like they're living their age. And I feel like that's a good. And that's inspiring. I don't know, I don't know what it, where we get to, but I feel like this is gonna be the battle. This is gonna be the conversation of our ages.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah, this is the talk. This is what we're talking about probably for the rest of our. This is probably what the podcast will transition into.
Paul Scheer
I think it has to. I think it has to. And we haven't even gotten June to weigh in, and I feel like that's something that really needs to be done in the year of 2026.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah.
Paul Scheer
So, Quinn, thank you for joining us. Thank you for adding all this great perspective.
Quinn Jennings
Of course.
June Diane Raphael
Your list was essential. Thank you. Thank you for correcting us.
Quinn Jennings
I was glad that my Harris Dickinson pig actually made it to the Vanity Fair cover. That's the one I'm okay with.
June Diane Raphael
What about, like a Callum Turner? Quinn, where does Callum Turner fall? Mr. Dua Lipa.
Quinn Jennings
When I first saw the COVID I thought he was Josh o', Connor, so I think that's okay.
June Diane Raphael
Also, where's Josh o'? Connor?
Quinn Jennings
He's. I mean, if we're talking about Geek Squad, I think he's a little old. But, yeah, for this cover, I would agree. But Callum Turner, he has a movie coming out in a couple weeks. But I'm like, I don't think he is really a leading man, as Paul said.
Paul Scheer
Okay. That this is. This is where we have to get into it.
June Diane Raphael
And I guess. And it's also not for nothing, these covers are all people who have movies have just come out or are coming out for awards season. So this is also press.
Quinn Jennings
I feel like it's. It came out like a week too early because Callum Turner's movie hasn't actually come out yet.
Paul Scheer
I mean, there you go. And now I guess the question I'm gonna say is this is the big one. Are we upset that there's not a single bit of Stranger Things representation? Are we done with that culturally? But, I mean, Finn Wolfhard, could we get him on the COVID I mean, I don't know if he's a leading man. I don't know. You know, but there's no. No Stranger Things on here. And that seems to be the talk of young. I mean, I say young Hollywood, but that's only because my kid goes to school in Los Angeles and they talk about Stranger Things a lot.
June Diane Raphael
They haven't really translated, you know, with the exception, I feel like, of Millie Bobby Brown, whose movies are massive hits on Netflix, they have not really translated, like Electric State didn't do anything like none of that cast. I mean, I guess Finn Wolfhard is in the Ghostbusters movies, but I don't know if they would pick him as a next generation leading man.
Paul Scheer
I would argue that the women have popped more like Sadie Sink and.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah, yeah.
Paul Scheer
Like, she's also somebody who I think is going to Be.
June Diane Raphael
Oh, and I guess there was. Who was the. Who's the guy who is in Fantastic Four. I'm sorry.
Quinn Jennings
He's Joseph Quinn.
Paul Scheer
Thank you.
June Diane Raphael
Yes.
Quinn Jennings
Yeah.
Paul Scheer
Okay. This is a lot. This is. There's so much here.
June Diane Raphael
We. You're. You are an essential.
Paul Scheer
We'll get back to it. Thank you, Quinn.
Quinn Jennings
Of course. Thank you, guys. Bye now.
Paul Scheer
Jason, we could debate Geek Squad all day, but there's a show that you're currently on that is definitely not Geek Squad.
June Diane Raphael
It is not Geek Squad. And I'm plugging season two of A Man on the Inside, the Mike Shure, Ted Danson's show on Netflix. That is fantastic. The first season was absolutely hilarious and heartbreaking and beautiful. What a great show.
Paul Scheer
I love that show.
June Diane Raphael
Mike Shurer, of course, who created Parks and Rec and the Good Place. This is his new show, and boy, it is dynamite. I get to play a. If you can believe it, Paul, a real oddball weirdo named Apollo Lombrakis.
Paul Scheer
Oh, I love this.
June Diane Raphael
Very funny. All episodes are dropping on the 20th, so you can check those out Now.
Paul Scheer
All I'll say is that I liked man on the Inside the first season, but when I saw the trailer to season two, I was like, oh, boy, this looks really even.
June Diane Raphael
It's great.
Paul Scheer
I'm excited. It looked like they kind of switched it up.
June Diane Raphael
I mean, the guest list is nuts.
Paul Scheer
Yeah, it really is.
June Diane Raphael
Gary Cole. It's Max Greenfeld. It's. It's got incredible people going on. It's a blast. It's so, so fun.
Paul Scheer
I cannot wait. All right, Jason, we will be back and you can check us out live. Remember to get your tickets for our live stream the holiday livestream coming up. We're going to announce the movie next week, but you can watch it live around the world, people. Around the world.
June Diane Raphael
Around the world.
Paul Scheer
Thank you, Jason, for chatting with me. But now it's time to finally announce our next movie. Next week, we're going to go from the undead to Santa's sled. That's right. Next week, we are watching the 1991 Made for TV animated holiday special, the Christmas Tree. Now, hold on, people. This movie is only 45 minutes, so this is gonna be a fun one. IMDb describes the plot as this. The heartless Mrs. Malvida runs an orphanage where kids live in miserable conditions. Because she keeps all the donation money for herself, she hires a new assistant who, along with Santa, helps the kids finally have a merry Christmas. Now, this movie is not on Rotten Tomatoes. So instead we turn to our letterbox user Lauren, who writes this was awful, but I was laughing my ass off the entire time. It's like the room, but Christmas. Whoa. I cannot wait. Now, there isn't a trailer for this movie, so instead, take a listen to this short teaser clip. And Mrs. Mavilda continued receiving donations from the mayor. Little did he know that the money was destined to pursuits other than bettering the lives of the children.
Quinn Jennings
Frank, Mavilda, do you feel lucky tonight? Good, darling, because we're gonna have a game tonight. Come over at 8 o' clock and don't forget the champagne. I'll see you later then. Here goes the children's money again.
Paul Scheer
Okay, I haven't watched this one, but I'm told it's a real doozy and it's gotta be seen to be believed. And you can stream the Christmas Tree for free on Tubi or rent it on Amazon Prime Video. Heads up. There are tons of movies called the Christmas Tree, so make sure you're watching the animated one from 1991 with a runtime of 43 minutes. Now, I would normally say go to Houppeland Canopy in Libby, but I don't know if they will have this. That is it for last looks, people. If you listen to us on Apple podcasts Spotify, please rate and review us and make sure you are following us. And have automatic downloads turned on. Have automatic downloads turned on. It helps the show and we appreciate it. Visit us on social media dtgm. And a big thank you to our producer Scott Saani, Molly Reynolds and our engineer, Casey Holford, as well as our social media manager, Zoe Applebaum and our intern, Quinn Jennings. And as always, we give it up to our dear Avril Halle. We will see you next week for the Christmas Tree. Bye for now.
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Podcast Hosts: Paul Scheer, June Diane Raphael, Jason Mantzoukas
Release Date: November 21, 2025
This “Last Looks” installment of HDTGM is a lively, multi-layered discussion blending listener feedback, movie corrections/omissions, nostalgia, and spirited debate over Vanity Fair’s “Geek Squad” covers. The primary focus is a postmortem on “My Boyfriend's Back” (including missed facts and listener trauma), followed by an extended roundtable with June, Paul, Jason, and their young intern Quinn examining Hollywood’s current crop of “leading men.” The entire episode is infused with HDTGM’s irreverent and self-referential humor.
(Begins at 03:45)
(Starts at 18:06)
(22:27 — 47:33)
Vanity Fair’s “Hollywood Issue” featured three covers highlighting Hollywood’s “Geek Squad”—a new generation of leading men. The hosts and intern Quinn dissect who made the cut, who didn’t, and what defines “Geek Squad” compared to the iconic Brat Pack/Frat Pack eras.
Movie Reveal Segment — “The Christmas Tree”
(49:00)
The episode wraps with plugs for Jason’s show (“A Man on the Inside,” Season 2 on Netflix), Paul’s book, and a spirited promo for their annual holiday livestream event. The energy remains high as they promise further “Geek Squad” discourse and more so-bad-they’re-good cinematic discoveries.
If you missed the episode:
Expect hilarious listener corrections, deep dives into the odd history behind “My Boyfriend's Back,” affectionate Gen X nostalgia, and a surprisingly serious (and generationally mindful) conversation about how we define the new vanguard of Hollywood stars. The Geek Squad debate, powered by both hosts and intern Quinn’s insights, is a highlight—sometimes catty, always insightful, and peppered with meta-commentary on our cultural fascination with fame, youth, and image curation.
Quotable Summation:
“Maybe what Geek Squad really means is which actors actually seem like they’d hang out together... and yeah, some of these guys are just men!” – Paul (Throughout the Vanity Fair discussion)
Next week:
Tune in for holiday weirdness with “The Christmas Tree”—it’s the Room, for Christmas!