Matinee Monday: The Knight Before Christmas (w/ Jessica St. Clair)

Mon Dec 23 2024

Grab your Old Crones and Crones In Training because Paul, June, Jason and Jessica St. Clair (The Deep Dive) break down the Netflix Christmas classic, The Knight Before Christmas, starring Vanessa Hudgens. They explore the Netflix Christmas Cinematic Universe, Incognito Mode, and the source of Jessica’s ‘tech issues’ is revealed. (Originally Released 12/23/2021)

Transcript

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Jason Mantzoukas (1:55)

Now it's time for.

June Diane Raphael (2:00)

And failure.

Jason Mantzoukas (2:01)

Not just be a hater catch.

Paul Scheer (2:02)

You know you wonder how did this remain?

Jason Mantzoukas (2:04)

Let's wallow in the mediocrity of subpar art. Perhaps we'll find the answer to the question how did this get made?

Paul Scheer (2:13)

Yes, hello people of Virtual Earth, and welcome to a How did this get made? Live show coming at you wherever you are. In your living rooms, in your houses, in your ears. We are so excited that you have stayed up late with us or you're at the right time. I don't know where you are, but we are excited that you are here because we are talking about a Netflix film that really made some People very angry at us. And other people said, I don't know how you could talk badly about this movie. It made me cry. It is the 2019 film A Night Before Christmas starring Vanessa Hudgens. And this is part of the. We'll get into this part of the Netflix ccmu, the Christmas Cinematic Universe. I guess the M is not necessary. Anyway, what do you need to know about this? Well, it's kind of like elf. It's kind of like splash. A. A knight from, from medieval times comes to Ohio to woo a college teacher who looks like a high school student. And. And you know what? Good things happen. It all has to happen around Christmas. There's a lot of questions about why any of this stuff happens. We're going to get into it all and we have an amazing panel because when we do Christmas movies, we actually bring on one of our favorite extra special guests. We'll bring her out in a second. But please welcome my co host, Mr. Jason Manzoukas.

Summary

Episode Summary: Matinee Monday: The Knight Before Christmas (w/ Jessica St. Clair)

Release Date: December 23, 2024

Introduction

In this festive episode of "How Did This Get Made?", hosts Paul Scheer, June Diane Raphael, and Jason Mantzoukas delve into the convoluted antics of the 2019 Netflix film "A Night Before Christmas". Joined by special guest Jessica St. Clair, the trio dissects the movie's plot, character dynamics, and numerous inconsistencies with their signature comedic flair.

Overview of "A Night Before Christmas"

"A Night Before Christmas" centers around a medieval knight from the 1300s who mysteriously time-travels to modern-day Ohio during the Christmas season. His mission? To win the heart of a college teacher, portrayed by Vanessa Hudgens, who astonishingly resembles a high school student. The film attempts to blend elements of romance, fantasy, and holiday cheer but falls into a labyrinth of plot holes and questionable narrative choices.

Plot and Character Analysis

Time-Travel Conundrums

One of the primary points of contention among the hosts is the knight's seamless adaptation to the 21st century. Jason Mantzoukas (04:23) laments, "Why is he completely unfazed by time travel?" while Paul Scheer (05:15) adds, "A knight from the 1300s doesn't have a Social Security number. How does he survive?" The hosts highlight the lack of logic in how the knight navigates modern society without any apparent challenges.

Character Dynamics and Relationships

The chemistry between Vanessa Hudgens' character and the knight is scrutinized for its lack of depth and believability. June Diane Raphael (12:32) notes, "Her chemistry with the knight felt off the charts," yet she expresses disappointment over not being part of the project. Paul Scheer (14:24) points out inconsistencies in character relationships, questioning how Vanessa's character could seamlessly interact within the Netflix Christmas Cinematic Universe.

Setting and Production Choices

The hosts commend the film's costumes and setting but remain critical of certain production choices. Jessica St. Clair (29:20) praises the attire, saying, "I loved Shariki's costumes. They were heads and shoulders above last week's outfits." However, they question the practicality of certain elements, such as the Christmas tree lot (47:22), where trees appear fully grown and ready for cutting without the natural time required for growth.

Guest Insights: Jessica St. Clair

Jessica St. Clair brings a fresh perspective to the discussion, offering both praise and critique. She appreciates the film's whimsical elements but doesn't shy away from highlighting its flaws. For instance, she mentions the "crone" character (35:28), suggesting a more rugged portrayal could have enhanced authenticity. Jessica also shares personal anecdotes that parallel the movie's themes, adding depth to the conversation.

Critical Reception and Audience Feedback

The episode touches upon the movie's Rotten Tomatoes score, with Paul Scheer (65:04) inquiring, "Do you think it's okay that they put that child in that wig?" The hosts reference fictional reviews boasting high ratings, humorously undermining the film's actual reception. Jason Mantzoukas (65:19) humorously states, "If we're rating it on a Christmas movie scale, then 70. Yes, 100." This satirical take emphasizes the hosts' disdain for the film's perceived shortcomings.

Notable Quotes

Jason Mantzoukas (04:31): "I've got takes for days. Why aren't we letting any of these people..."
Paul Scheer (05:26): "All these characters are coming here spending money willy nilly..."
June Diane Raphael (12:32): "Did she actually bone that guy? I thought their chemistry was off the charts."
Jessica St. Clair (35:26): "She's wearing, like, a tablecloth. I would have put her in animal skins if it was me."
Jason Mantzoukas (65:08): "Comparing it to real regular movies? No, of course not. But in its category, this is certainly better than 'Holiday in Handcuffs' and 'The Thing.'"

Conclusion and Recommendations

Despite the myriad of issues, the hosts acknowledge that "A Night Before Christmas" may find its niche among fans of niche holiday movies seeking something unconventional. Jason Mantzoukas (87:25) concludes, "I recommend this movie, especially if you are in..." suggesting it as a quirky addition to one's holiday watchlist, albeit with reservations.

Final Thoughts

"How Did This Get Made?" delivers a thorough and humorous critique of "A Night Before Christmas", blending sharp observations with personal anecdotes. With Jessica St. Clair's insightful participation, the episode offers listeners a comprehensive understanding of why this particular Netflix offering falls into the "best of the worst" category, all while maintaining an engaging and entertaining discussion.

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