
Ike Barinholtz (The Studio, The Mindy Project) helps the gang break down the 2001 Lance Bass & Joey Fatone comedy On The Line, aka a love story between a Turkey Sub and a Hubcap. What happens when boy banders try their hand at acting? Bizarre sound effects, terrible musical performances, and lots and lots of chewing noises. (Originally Released 05/15/2012)
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Paul Scheer
Your mom loves to talk on the phone with her friends. If she ate bunches of oats instead.
Jason Mantzoukas
Of just oats, she wouldn't do it.
Paul Scheer
On speakerphone in public. Not only are honey bunches of oats delicious and nutritious, but they'll help keep her from recounting the plot of her steamy romance novel while in the grocery store. Don't just eat oats. Eat bunches of oats, honey bunches of oats.
June Diane Raphael
Pacifico is a Mexican lager brood to be discovered. It's like fresh tracks on a powder day. Like that uncharted trail a stone's throw away. Like the perfect wave on a sunny day. Pacifico. Find your own way. 21 drink responsibly. Imported by Crown Import, Chicago, Illinois.
Ike Barinholtz
Halliday presents. In the red corner, the undisputed, undefeated weed whacker guy. Champion of hurling grass and pollen everywhere. And in the blue corner, the challenger, extra strength eye drops that work all day to prevent the release of histamines that cause itchy allergy eyes. And the winner by knockout is Pataday. Pataday. Bring it on.
June Diane Raphael
It's the NSYNC movie that no one asked for and no one wanted to see. We saw on the line, so you know what that means.
Jason Mantzoukas
Now it's time for padded discourage. We're gonna have a good time celebrating failure. Not just be a hater.
Eliot Glazer
Cause you know you're.
Jason Mantzoukas
How did this remain? Let's wallow in the mediocrity of subpar art. Perhaps we'll find the answer to the question, how did this get Made?
June Diane Raphael
Hello, people of Earth, and welcome to how did this get Made? I am joined, as always, by June and Jason. Hello to you both.
Eliot Glazer
Hi, Paul.
Dave Steffi
What's going on?
June Diane Raphael
Jason is, of course, not in studio right now. You're in New York. And so that equates for the.
Dave Steffi
That's why I sound weird, guys.
June Diane Raphael
That's why I sound weird. You're in a toaster. We are joined today by a very funny.
Dave Steffi
By toaster, you mean a Cylon.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah, man. Frack. Oh, what the frack.
Dave Steffi
Frack.
Eliot Glazer
What's up? Frack. Frack you.
June Diane Raphael
We are joined by the very funny Ike Barinholtz, who you might have seen on MADTV or Eastbound and down this season. He played the Russian pitcher. Welcome, Ike.
Jason Mantzoukas
Hey, now. Thank you for having me.
June Diane Raphael
Oh, we're very excited. Now, this is a movie that Ike, you recommended to us, right?
Jason Mantzoukas
Well, we were talking about it, and you're like, God, it's tough to find movies that we, you know, because we we know people who make movies now. We don't want to offend anyone. I go, I think I know a movie that no one is involved with.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah. And this is this movie, this movie on the line. Just to give you an idea. It was released in 2001. It was an NSync movie with Joey Fatone and Lance Bass. And, man, it's kind of a romantic comedy, right? Yes.
Jason Mantzoukas
I mean, I'd say besides 9 11, it's the worst thing to happen in 2001.
Eliot Glazer
This was released in 2001.
Paul Scheer
This was.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Eliot Glazer
Oh, wow. Okay. That changes things.
Dave Steffi
I've heard a lot of people say that this movie is why they attacked us on 9 11.
June Diane Raphael
Well, I heard that they were just trying to get the planes over here just to see it.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah. Lance Bass is huge in Saudi Arabia. He's huge.
June Diane Raphael
Lance Bass, Okay. So he plays a guy who, according to this movie. This is where I'm most confused. He's a guy who is dating, but he just clams up when he finds the right girl. Is that every one of these characters is not really black and white. It's kind of all shades of gray.
Jason Mantzoukas
Very nebulous.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah.
Eliot Glazer
There's no clear choices on any.
Jason Mantzoukas
I mean, I gotta say, I always feel bad for, like, the writer. I always do is imagine, like, when the writer finds out who their lead's gonna be, you know, and the producer's like, so we got the lead. It's a primo romantic comedy actor, like Ben Stiller.
June Diane Raphael
Wow, this is great.
Jason Mantzoukas
No, no, no, it's not Ben Stiller. It's more of a song and dance, man.
Paul Scheer
Oh, great.
June Diane Raphael
This is real.
Eliot Glazer
So now, do you think they added in the music stuff? Like, they had a version of the script that was just for, you know, your run of the mill, like, regular romantic comedy actor. And then they were like, okay, we have Lance Bass. We have Joey Fatone. Like.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yes.
June Diane Raphael
As a matter of fact, the original script was rated R, and they had to knock it back for the NSync audience.
Jason Mantzoukas
That's right. Okay, so they basically wanted something about Mary.
June Diane Raphael
Yes.
Jason Mantzoukas
So they wanted. Right.
June Diane Raphael
But can I say something? This movie, even if it was R, I don't even understand where the R is coming in, because basically the whole. There's no stakes in this movie. He meets Emmanuel Shirky, Entourage.
Jason Mantzoukas
I call her E's girlfriend from Entourage. Yeah. And by the way, if you ever do a TV version of the show, we need to do, like, six hours in Entourage.
June Diane Raphael
Just break down six different Entourage season by season.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yes. Okay. Sorry.
June Diane Raphael
I could spend forever on the finale.
Dave Steffi
Have to do that.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah, that'd be amazing. A special version.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah. I'm an expert on Entourage. Like I know everything about it. I'm obsessed.
June Diane Raphael
But basically the whole movie is he meets a girl on the subway and then he's just trying to find her. For the rest of the movie there's like, no.
Eliot Glazer
Well, it is a very confusing promise because the movie starts off in a flashback, right. Seven years ago where they're starting and they find out that basically everything that is important to this movie happened seven years.
Jason Mantzoukas
Seven years ago.
Eliot Glazer
I've said a couple of times they're.
Jason Mantzoukas
Singing spin doctors like NSync's making fun of Spin Doctors. How dare you.
Dave Steffi
I need, honestly, I genuinely need for somebody in our audience to find out how many times two princes has been played in a movie.
Jason Mantzoukas
I would say the over under at 18.
Dave Steffi
Oh, no, I'm going like 30s. Way more.
Eliot Glazer
This is a dumb question, but is NSYNC just comprised of. I don't know anything about boy bands. Is that just Joey Fatone?
June Diane Raphael
No, no. Didn't you watch the credits?
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah, the credits have.
Eliot Glazer
Timberlake was in nsync.
June Diane Raphael
Timberlake, Chris Kirkpatrick and JC Chase.
Jason Mantzoukas
Who's not in the movie.
June Diane Raphael
Not in the movie.
Jason Mantzoukas
Clearly bone of contention.
Eliot Glazer
So do you think they first went. Cause, by the way, not to jump ahead to the. But the end credits is over a sketch that Justin Timberlake and who is that other guy?
June Diane Raphael
Christopher.
Eliot Glazer
And there's more life and energy in this and it's terrible.
Jason Mantzoukas
But it's also very awkward that Timberlake is playing a gay man. To Lance, who has since come out of the closet. It's very uncomfortable.
June Diane Raphael
It's a very over the top gay performance by jt.
Jason Mantzoukas
But I like Chris Kirkpatrick's kind of German guy.
Eliot Glazer
I thought he was great. Great.
Jason Mantzoukas
He was good. Best actor in the movie, besides.
June Diane Raphael
So you're saying that. That you would rather have seen a two minute. That what that two minute sketch was at the end. You would rather have seen a feature length film?
Jason Mantzoukas
Yes.
Dave Steffi
Well, my. I feel like they probably tried to get in sync to play all of.
Jason Mantzoukas
The boys and Timberlake's like, no fucking way. I'll do this.
Eliot Glazer
Well, see, that's what I was curious about. Like, did it first. Did the. Did the main part, the Lance Bastis part first go out to. Without a doubt.
Dave Steffi
Without a doubt. No.
Jason Mantzoukas
See, you don't think so.
Dave Steffi
I think Timberlake was supposed to play the, like, what's the skinny hip hop guy? And I think Chris Kirkpatrick was supposed to play the smart guy.
June Diane Raphael
Yes.
Jason Mantzoukas
So where does that leave J.C. chase in all this? Al Green.
Dave Steffi
That's when he wasn't invited to the movie.
Eliot Glazer
Al Green.
Jason Mantzoukas
You know, it's funny. Like, we were talking about it, and I've seen this movie a bunch back in the day, and a couple days ago, I was like, I should watch this again. And I couldn't find it on Netflix or Amazon. Instant Amoeba didn't have it. Barnes and Noble didn't have it. But the whole movie is posted on YouTube, and I think that's the way this movie's supposed to be seen.
June Diane Raphael
Yes. In five chapters.
Jason Mantzoukas
And the great thing is, it was uploaded by a poster named Lance Bass fan page. And it says poster with the express permission of Lance Bass.
June Diane Raphael
Which is like, clearly they were at.
Jason Mantzoukas
A premiere or something and saw Lance Bass were like, hey, Lance, I love you. Can I post this on YouTube? He's like, yeah, whatever. I don't know.
June Diane Raphael
Can I post this whole movie that Lance Bass does not own? He does not own a movie that is made by whatever company it was made by. All right.
Eliot Glazer
So, yeah, the premise is pretty confusing, though. So he's this guy who I guess, has trou. He does date and seems to have a pretty active love life from what we know.
June Diane Raphael
He's not a loser.
Eliot Glazer
He's not a loser. In fact, he steals a girl in high school, which we find out later from another.
June Diane Raphael
That was kind of. But that wasn't really. He didn't steal it. She just kind of.
Jason Mantzoukas
She just asked him and asked him. From that guy's point of view, it looks like he was a dick. Cause he gives him that smarmy look.
Eliot Glazer
Okay. But it does seem like he dates people.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah, he's a cool guy.
Eliot Glazer
He's out and about.
Jason Mantzoukas
He's out and about.
Eliot Glazer
He's out and about.
June Diane Raphael
Well, they also set him up as a loser in work, where he's, like, in the mail room with Jerry Stiller. And by the way, they lay so much pipe in the beginning of this movie. Like, all these things, like, hey, are you ever gonna tell me what that baseball means? Hey, you ever gonna get this?
Jason Mantzoukas
Hey, Reebok is really up our ass on this account. I was like, how did Reebok get.
June Diane Raphael
Involved, by the way? Most product placement ever in a movie.
Jason Mantzoukas
The McDonald's french fries.
June Diane Raphael
McDonald's french fries.
Jason Mantzoukas
That's like Mac and Me fucking shell blade. And there's a Pepsi in there.
June Diane Raphael
The kid is literally holding it. Like, holding the McDonald' it's like it's out. No one would hold it like that, by the way.
Eliot Glazer
I found that scene very disturbing. That kid is about 7 years old and says he's telling Lance Bass and his sidekick how to fuck chicks. Yeah, how to fuck chicks. And then he takes his french fries and walks over to an older. A woman in her 30s. 30s, yeah, in her mid-30s. Offers her fries and then gives them a look like.
Jason Mantzoukas
Well, in the R rated version, she blows him. That's why they cut him.
Dave Steffi
Gets laid.
June Diane Raphael
Also, that kid starts off the thing that I really want to just call our attention to, which is the sound effects for head turns, blink and anything.
Jason Mantzoukas
What the fuck? It's like this movie was scored by a fucking dj. Morning, man.
June Diane Raphael
Tulsa.
Eliot Glazer
I think what happened is that they stopped.
Dave Steffi
There were crickets. At one point, somebody tells a joke that doesn't land. There's crickets.
Eliot Glazer
There are crickets. Fart noises.
Jason Mantzoukas
Joey Fatone has 11 fart sounds. Oh, every time he moves a fart.
Eliot Glazer
Sound, there's triple takes. Like, what, what, what?
Jason Mantzoukas
A couple record scratches. A couple of those.
June Diane Raphael
When he turned. When Joey Fatone turn it one time and goes, wicka wicka, wicka.
Jason Mantzoukas
Like, it's like, actually, no, Joey Fatone actually makes that noise. Also there's that song that keeps playing intermittently that's like, yeah, baby, hey, baby.
June Diane Raphael
I actually have a clip of that song just so you can hear. This underscores. The movie is barely creaks in at an hour and 20 minutes. And this movie plays under, I would say an hour and 15. Here you go. That went pretty well.
Jason Mantzoukas
Gibbon.
June Diane Raphael
All right, so there you go. That is just a taste. A taste of the music. That and that plays all the time.
Eliot Glazer
Loudly.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah, yeah.
Eliot Glazer
Once I couldn't hear the dialogue.
Jason Mantzoukas
It was terrible sound mixing. Terrible sound mixing. I mean, I'm trying to think of like worse leading men for a movie. Like, who's worse? Like Paul Gasol.
Eliot Glazer
But see, here's the weird thing about the movie too, though, because in the beginning, not that seven years ago flashback, he's the lead singer of this band.
June Diane Raphael
Yes, the Spin Doctors band.
Eliot Glazer
Yes, the Spin Doctors Band. And we find out later on that music means a whole lot to him.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, it's huge. That's why he works for Reebok.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah, he works for Reebok. Well, so much so that when he's on the subway, he will start singing along and getting embarrassed.
Eliot Glazer
Yeah, no, not only does he start, he's listening to algorithm on his cd, man. Or whatever it is. He gets so into the song that he stands up on a public subway and starts dancing kind of wildly.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas
And then he gives that sheer sheepish deer in the woods about to be murdered look like, sorry, everyone. And of course, who could resist that?
Eliot Glazer
But why isn't he in this band anymore?
Jason Mantzoukas
Well, I think after. I think what maybe they were going for is that after he. Because, remember, in the beginning, not only does he choke, he faints. He fucking faints.
June Diane Raphael
Oh, right, he faints.
Eliot Glazer
He thinks, oh, yeah, you're right.
Jason Mantzoukas
So maybe they had a meeting afterwards and I think the band broke up and the only one that held onto the fucking dream was Fatone.
Dave Steffi
Fatone.
Jason Mantzoukas
Can we talk about Fatone for a second?
June Diane Raphael
Yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas
It's good. In a movie like this, if you got a lead like Lance Bass, who's not a pure comedy guy, you gotta get a comedy guy like Joey Fatone. Wasn't he. He's ucb, right?
June Diane Raphael
Yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas
Was he just pento mansleb?
June Diane Raphael
Well, no, I think. Well, Joey Fatone was actually first member of Human Giant.
Jason Mantzoukas
Right.
June Diane Raphael
But he was a Second City guy.
Eliot Glazer
I think he's easier places.
Jason Mantzoukas
Was he Second City? I think he did Second City and UCB and IO.
Eliot Glazer
I gotta say, I thought, for being a non actor, that Joey Fatone, this is controversial. I thought he did a fine job. I thought he did a fine job.
Dave Steffi
I was gonna say the same thing. He actually seemed to be doing good.
Jason Mantzoukas
Well, I mean, I think he did. He tried his best, but at the end of the day, like, I've been to fucking children's funerals that are funnier. Sure.
Eliot Glazer
Was it funny?
June Diane Raphael
His material was not good. His material was not good.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah, but I guess. I guess some of the fart noises were pretty good.
June Diane Raphael
But you know what? He was a relief from watching Lance Bass and, like, E's girlfriend from Entourage.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah, yeah.
June Diane Raphael
Because watching them was like watching the bor. Like, it was like being a producer on a reality show and just wading through the boring footage of a reality show. How do we edit this and make this interesting?
Jason Mantzoukas
Like, the chemistry between them. It was like the chemistry between, like, a hubcap and a turkey sub. It's like two. Nothing. There's nothingness.
Dave Steffi
Wait, who's who in that scenario? Because I want to know. Because I want to know whether I was attracted to the turkey sub or the hubcap.
June Diane Raphael
Definitely the turkey sub. I mean. Yeah.
Dave Steffi
Come on, man.
Jason Mantzoukas
Come on. Joey Fatone has. For the record.
Dave Steffi
Can we talk about. Can we talk about the scene between the turkey sub and her roommate.
Eliot Glazer
Oh, my God, I was obsessed with that scene.
June Diane Raphael
So basically, Eve's girlfriend.
Dave Steffi
You just spent the weekend with your boyfriend of three years who you haven't seen in a month. Like, it is like the poor roommate has, like, 10 minutes of just solid exposition.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, the turkey sub just kind of wistfully looks out the window.
June Diane Raphael
Well, like, by the way, she comes on, like, you know. So the turkey. Turkey sub is visiting Chicago. And that's how they have this chance interaction. But she comes home, which is a.
Eliot Glazer
Big reveal, by the way. I think he's gonna see her again on the line, which.
June Diane Raphael
On the line. On the subway line.
Eliot Glazer
Turkey sub doesn't even live in the same town.
June Diane Raphael
But it seems like this best friend is like, the minute she's like, how's your boyfriend? Wasn't it great? And she's like, I met another guy. And she's like, great. How is he? Isn't he awesome? These friends are switching on a date.
Jason Mantzoukas
Like a true friend. Be like, whoa, whoa, whoa. You met another. Wait, you're in a relationship with a guy?
June Diane Raphael
What are you doing?
Jason Mantzoukas
What's wrong with you? You're acting like a fucking turkey sub. Jesus. Yeah. That was a great scene, man.
Dave Steffi
Oh, my God. Well, a huge part of this movie. A huge part of this movie for me, hinges on a couple of things. One, there appears to be no such thing as the Internet. No.
June Diane Raphael
2001. Right. That didn't exist. Right.
Eliot Glazer
Or CDs.
Dave Steffi
You could totally. By the way, you could 100% post a Craigslist misconnection at this point. You could try and Internet look up this person. Like, that would be possible. But it doesn't.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah. No.
Dave Steffi
And that every single person only reads the newspaper, and the way they read it is by holding it up high completely in front of their face.
June Diane Raphael
And by the way, this, like, local story is front page news every day on the Chicago newspaper.
Jason Mantzoukas
Right.
June Diane Raphael
I.
Jason Mantzoukas
Meanwhile, like, 15 people got shot to death on the west side. They don't mention that.
Eliot Glazer
And what was really weird is the first time it showed up in the paper, the picture they used of Lance Bass was his graduation photo from high school.
June Diane Raphael
Why would they do that?
Eliot Glazer
I assumed it was because the other guy was the reporter who was spurned. Just. That was the only picture he could find.
Jason Mantzoukas
Who, by the way, I gotta say, it's one of the greatest introductions in cinema history where you see the antagonist and he's at his desk playing game boy again, 2001. Too late for Game Boy, by the way.
June Diane Raphael
This Movie, I think takes place in the world where the Y2K happened. That's why they don't have the Internet.
Eliot Glazer
That's why they have to draw pictures.
Jason Mantzoukas
He's playing fucking Tetris and for no reason, he just falls over.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah, like if he falls out of me.
Jason Mantzoukas
I love artificial fucking inorganic physical comedy.
Eliot Glazer
It's amazing where they're like.
Jason Mantzoukas
I can see them on set being like, we gotta fucking pump the scene on, man. It's just flat.
June Diane Raphael
I just fall down.
Jason Mantzoukas
What do you mean you wanna fall backwards? Why would I fall backwards? Just fucking do it.
June Diane Raphael
I do want. Alright, so when Lance Bass, or when the turkey sub and the hubcap get together, I do wanna just play a clip so you can hear the chemistry. And this is Lance talking about baseball, which I feel like he's never seen.
Jason Mantzoukas
No, no, no, no.
June Diane Raphael
So here, take a look.
Eliot Glazer
Google wouldn't think of you.
Paul Scheer
You're a Cubs fan.
Eliot Glazer
Heck yeah. Born and raised.
Jason Mantzoukas
All right, all right.
June Diane Raphael
So tell me, tell me your best.
Jason Mantzoukas
And worst Cub moment.
June Diane Raphael
Best?
Eliot Glazer
Whenever they win, of course.
Jason Mantzoukas
Worst.
Dave Steffi
Game 5 in the 84 playoff. The ground ball to enter Durham's legs.
Jason Mantzoukas
That is the worst moment of my life. I was so depressed, I didn't even go to school the next day.
June Diane Raphael
I cried.
Jason Mantzoukas
Okay. Most guys wouldn't have did that. Yeah, I don't know why I just told you that.
June Diane Raphael
When he says that was the worst moment of my life. That was my favorite line of the whole movie. So not passionate. This guy does not care about baseball. He doesn't even know what happened. I cried.
Jason Mantzoukas
Jesus. And those two actors, neither of them have ever seen a baseball game. No idea. They all Cubs.
June Diane Raphael
That's football, Right? That's football. And then Lance, you know, asks her the question that every guy likes to ask a girl. What's something you only will tell a stranger?
Dave Steffi
Yeah.
Eliot Glazer
Creepy.
June Diane Raphael
To which she reports.
Dave Steffi
She says, I like making paper airplanes.
Eliot Glazer
And one other thing.
Dave Steffi
Shame, shame on her.
Eliot Glazer
And my dad's a pilot.
June Diane Raphael
That's why she likes making paper airplanes.
Jason Mantzoukas
That's why.
June Diane Raphael
Because her dad's a pilot.
Jason Mantzoukas
That's true. What did she. It'd be great if she was like, I killed a man in a hit and run one time. I just kept fucking driving.
June Diane Raphael
That's the worst secret to tell. What's a secret that you've never told a stranger? I make paper airplanes.
Jason Mantzoukas
Fuck is that?
Eliot Glazer
And then after that, she walks him up to the subway platform and launches one of her paper planes from there and then says that this is her favorite spot to do it her favorite spot.
June Diane Raphael
She doesn't live in Chicago.
Dave Steffi
She doesn't live there.
Paul Scheer
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Eliot Glazer
The relationship I was really curious about was between Hubcap and Jackie at work.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
June Diane Raphael
Jackie is Hubcap's nemesis.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah.
June Diane Raphael
They're both working on the Reebok account, which is, again, if you're keeping track. We've talked about McDonald's, McDonald's, Reebok. And also there's a mention of Pop secret.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah.
Dave Steffi
Are we to believe that Reebok, the company Reebok, is going to hire some tiny, rinky dink ad agency in Chicago to do all of their advertising?
June Diane Raphael
Oh, yeah.
Dave Steffi
No sense.
June Diane Raphael
And when they show their ads to them, they're just gonna have magazine cutouts of girls heads on little doll dresses. Yeah, that's our ads. That was their big first. Dave Foley, who's in this movie, reveals. He goes, here is our vision of Reebok. And it looks like the worst computer graphics is like, reebok the future. It's so poorly done. It's so poorly done.
Jason Mantzoukas
Also, fucking Hubcap is supposed to. He's supposed to be good at his job, right? You know? So he says to her, at one point, he goes, what about this? And he holds up two kush balls and goes, rebok Reebok. And she looks at him, she's like, you're a moronaut. And she's right. That's the fucking worst bitch I've ever.
June Diane Raphael
Heard in my life. Well, also, this guy, Lance Bass is in the mailroom in the beginning. Yes. And then turkey sandwich says to him, oh, did you work on that pop shit? Oh, turkey sub.
Dave Steffi
It's a turkey sub, not a sandwich, Please.
June Diane Raphael
You're right.
Dave Steffi
Sorry.
June Diane Raphael
I apologize. Turkey sub says, like, oh, did you work on Pop Secret. He goes, oh, yeah, I wrote that jingle. Wait, you're working a fucking mail.
Jason Mantzoukas
You're trying to fix a copier with Jerry Stiller. What the fuck are you talking about?
June Diane Raphael
You're working on jingle?
Eliot Glazer
Anyway, the copier metaphor, which runs throughout the. Is one of the more baffling.
Jason Mantzoukas
That's supposed to be like the oil and there will be blood. You know what I mean? It's a metaphor for everything. Jesus. Poor Jerry Stiller. He had no idea. He had no idea what he was doing in there.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah, so this whole movie is basically, they give you a little bit, but then they take it away. It's like, you know, it's like, Joey Fatone. Is he a good singer? Is he not a good singer?
Jason Mantzoukas
Well, all I'll say is, in the first 17 minutes, he has three songs.
June Diane Raphael
Yes.
Jason Mantzoukas
That's tonnage. Oh, that's too much.
June Diane Raphael
Oh, a little bit. When he does a full cover of Pour Some Sugar on Me, Literally pouring sugar on himself.
Jason Mantzoukas
And then. And then after fucking turkey hubcap tells him what happened, he gets on stage and busts a parody version of Every Rose Has Its Thorn about. What is he, Weird Al Yankovic? Yeah, that just happened. It just happened.
June Diane Raphael
Well, also, Joey Fatone. Joey Fatone also has that interesting ability to be like, do one song. All right, guys, let's take a break. I'm gonna go hang out with my friends, chat with them for a bit, go back on stage and sing another song. Yeah, he's just performing in a place where music is gonna stop and start at any given.
Jason Mantzoukas
Ah, it's the world's worst bar. Oh, my God. I love too about 24 minutes in, when he kind of figures out what he's gonna do, you know, he's got a finder.
June Diane Raphael
Oh, yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah.
June Diane Raphael
He's gotta find her.
Jason Mantzoukas
And they start playing the titular song on the line. It's the worst moment in cinema history. It's the fucking most uncinematic, horrible, terrible scene in movies.
June Diane Raphael
I mean, this movie is the most uncinematic film at all. Pacing is not a thing in here.
Dave Steffi
Yeah, I mean, montages are insane.
Eliot Glazer
Montages are cool.
Jason Mantzoukas
Really long, too.
Eliot Glazer
And there's, like. There's one. There's that scene where he walks through the hallway of that. Of his ad firm, and all of, like, the secretaries are looking at him. They play that scene about seven times.
Jason Mantzoukas
And the one time he just drops his papers and they all start laughing at him. Like, all he did was drop a couple papers.
Eliot Glazer
These women are hard.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah, it's A harsh place.
June Diane Raphael
Also, this whole working. This whole place of work is constantly dictated by what's on the COVID of the Chicago Times. He's looking for love. Everyone's into him. He's a jerk. Everyone hates him. There's so much. They really are feeding off this article. You would think these are the only people that would know him. For him, they are just whatever the paper says they are in.
Eliot Glazer
They do.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, my God.
June Diane Raphael
And we haven't even talked about his friends. Really? Besides Joey Fatone, we have the astute guy who's always reading the paper, Right?
Jason Mantzoukas
Super serious.
Eliot Glazer
Andy Howser's friend.
June Diane Raphael
Yes. And then his name is gq. He played a character called Eric.
Jason Mantzoukas
His name in real life is gq.
June Diane Raphael
Gq?
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, no.
Dave Steffi
Yeah, he plays a version of that character in Drumline as well as a bunch of other movies.
June Diane Raphael
If you look at GQ's IMDb page, it says GQ, as he likes to be called, is a brilliant young actor, writer and MC. A product of Shy Tilly. He went to NYU's Tisch School of the Arts and worked in the experimental theater wing. It was there, along with some classmates, he conceived the idea for the bomb. Oh, he was the bombadi of Errors.
Jason Mantzoukas
That's the guy.
June Diane Raphael
That's the guy.
Jason Mantzoukas
Wait, he said he's from Chy. Tilly.
June Diane Raphael
Chi Tilly.
Jason Mantzoukas
I mean, Chicago.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah, he said something.
Jason Mantzoukas
Paul, I'm from Chicago. I lived there 18 years. I've never heard anyone say chytilli.
Paul Scheer
Ever.
Jason Mantzoukas
Never once, ever. It's never happened. It's a made up term. Jesus.
June Diane Raphael
Chai Tilly Bomba d' Averas. He created that. Yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas
Jesus.
June Diane Raphael
And the ad Raptation of the Comedy of Errors.
Jason Mantzoukas
Dude, I think he misspelled it. Adaptation.
June Diane Raphael
Nope. Adraptation. That's not a word. Nope, nope. Hey, man, just chill out.
Eliot Glazer
Go back to Shenzhen.
June Diane Raphael
Just go back to Shen.
Jason Mantzoukas
Jesus Christ. I didn't know. I'm sorry. Jeez.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah. Those friends are the worst.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah. Yeah.
Dave Steffi
And basically the friends decide they're gonna. Because all these girls are so in love now with Lance Bass. Because he's looking for his true love, right? All the guys are gonna take out all the girls and fuck them, which they then do.
Jason Mantzoukas
Right?
June Diane Raphael
That's the major flaw of the whole movie, though. Hey, like, all right, so like, these girls call him to say, oh, I'm the girl from the subway, but yet he has to go out on dates with all of them. It's like, no, that's not the girl.
Jason Mantzoukas
That's not the girl.
June Diane Raphael
Pick up the Phone. Yeah, yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas
Or show up and be like, not her. Bye.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah. Or just get on the phone, be like, oh, yeah. No, you.
Eliot Glazer
But you guys, the other major major.
Jason Mantzoukas
A huge fraud.
Eliot Glazer
A huge flaw is that these friends are concocting this whole plan. Once the girls show up, they've seen Lance Bassett, they've seen Hubcap's picture.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah. On the COVID of the paper every day.
Eliot Glazer
They're gonna show up and not go over to his friends. Why would they?
June Diane Raphael
And basically, these guys are just fucking girls. Like, literally four times a night. That's what they allude to.
Jason Mantzoukas
They didn't beat the script that enough, I think was the biggest problem. I love the scene where the three bros or the four bros playing basically baseball.
June Diane Raphael
Oh, my God. Barbecue baseball.
Jason Mantzoukas
Barbecue baseball.
Dave Steffi
Throws a baseball. It's the most amazing thing I've ever seen.
Jason Mantzoukas
It's. It's literally how I imagine Rue McClanahan would throw a baseball right before she passed. Like, I mean, it's so soft. And.
Eliot Glazer
And why would she pass right after that?
Dave Steffi
Well, it's the throw. Her baseball throw kills.
Jason Mantzoukas
Also. He is standing maybe four feet in front of Joy Fatone.
June Diane Raphael
Like, it's the way.
Jason Mantzoukas
It's so bad.
Paul Scheer
Oh, my God.
Jason Mantzoukas
And then they hit it. And then they hit it right where their friend has set out a beautiful table. Like, Mark Barbieur set it up. Barbecue. Yeah.
June Diane Raphael
Like, what are you doing?
Dave Steffi
I'm quite surprised.
Jason Mantzoukas
Like, what are you doing?
June Diane Raphael
And they literally go, you're probably wondering why we asked you here to barbecue baseball. And he goes, well, I brought the meat. Like, that's my idea.
Eliot Glazer
By the way, the staging of this movie is so horrible, the blocking, that during this scene, they're all standing in one line.
June Diane Raphael
One line's facing camera.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah. The director was done. He's just like, four shot fucking stand there. Let's go. Keep moving, moving.
June Diane Raphael
And they look like they were freezing. Yeah, that was the coldest day shot.
Jason Mantzoukas
They're like a March 5th in Chicago. It's like, like 32 degrees out. It's.
June Diane Raphael
I do want to. Just because I'm obsessed with it. Like, these characters going back on what they've just established that they've done constantly, which is Joey Fatone is in love with this character called the Mick played.
Jason Mantzoukas
By Richie Sambora, the one with comedy guy again, too. You want to get a big comedy guy just hitting it out of the park, bringing it.
June Diane Raphael
And so Sambora, he's. I love the Mick.
Dave Steffi
I love the.
June Diane Raphael
And he watches the Mick on trl. He's like, oh, I hate this guy. I hate this guy. This guy's the worst. It's like, wait, you just launched over the couch to watch your favorite guy, and the guy says two words and.
Jason Mantzoukas
You'Re like, ah, this guy.
June Diane Raphael
I hate him. And then at the end, he comes back in, he goes, I love this guy.
Eliot Glazer
Do you think maybe he was just upset to see the Mick, like, in Interview selling out?
Jason Mantzoukas
Was he selling out?
June Diane Raphael
I don't think the mic was selling out.
Jason Mantzoukas
No, he was being the Mick. That's what the mic does.
June Diane Raphael
The Mick talks about the Mick being the Mick.
Jason Mantzoukas
Fuck me.
Eliot Glazer
Wait, we haven't even talked about this. This is before the Friends concoct this plan. GQ takes hubcap to see Al Green in comedy.
June Diane Raphael
Oh, yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas
You know, that five minute Al Green scene really gives the film a nice sense of urgency.
Eliot Glazer
Okay.
Jason Mantzoukas
You know what I mean? We're gonna literally show Al Green singing for five minutes.
Eliot Glazer
Yeah, it's crazy.
June Diane Raphael
And show Al Green singing. It is the worst lip sync of all time. I can't describe it to you because it's so utterly bad. It's like someone's playing a cd. He's not even near the microphone. It's. It is so off. He is.
Eliot Glazer
So what's weird about this movie? There are sounds added in, but then there are sounds taken away. Like something very strange happened with this sound.
Jason Mantzoukas
It's almost like the sound mixer was, like, holding them hostage. He's like, oh, yeah, you gotta pay me, otherwise you're losing the fucking Al Green track.
Dave Steffi
Hey, guys, you say your last couple of checks have bounced, so I'm not really gonna do this anymore.
Eliot Glazer
Did you notice, though, that at certain points, the camera would be on an actor and they'd say something and one of the words they would would just be so obviously dubbed over by another word.
June Diane Raphael
But not even bad words.
Jason Mantzoukas
No, no, no. Not like.
Eliot Glazer
Not curse words.
Jason Mantzoukas
I love bad ADR in a movie. It makes me happy. And every time you see the back of a character's head in this movie, you hear like, hey, watch out.
June Diane Raphael
Get out of the way.
Jason Mantzoukas
Like, the worst fucking adr. And then they do it with their leads. I don't get it, but they do.
June Diane Raphael
It with their leads. It's like, you're gonna get screwed and then be like, you're gonna get in trouble. That's what they're doing. It's like, I'm gonna kick your butt. And it's like. But clearly it's that ass. But, like, that's not really dictating the difference between an R rated movie and a PG13.
Dave Steffi
No, but I bet it's still, I bet it was still for like tween girls. I think it was still that it was as, as sensitive as. But to ask, you know, for the.
Jason Mantzoukas
Age girls, if we're talking about twin girls. You want to talk about the scene without green?
Eliot Glazer
No, go ahead.
Jason Mantzoukas
I was going to say maybe the most offensive scene in the movie is the protagonist or the antagonist's girlfriend, who's actually my friend Manny. She goes on a date with Joey Fatone and tells his friends what happened the next day.
Eliot Glazer
Oh yeah, I would love her to come on and talk about this movie. I mean, and her character, because it was so baffling. I mean, she's having a hard time with, with the antagonist.
Jason Mantzoukas
He's a dick. He's, you know, wrapped up in his work and he's consumed with jealousy over a hubcap.
Eliot Glazer
So much so that when she walks in from that date, she's severely injured.
Jason Mantzoukas
Her fucking face is bandaged.
Eliot Glazer
Yes, her face is bandaged. Her leg is.
Dave Steffi
And she's wearing a.
Jason Mantzoukas
Clearly she's been hit by a car or something.
Eliot Glazer
Something terrible.
Jason Mantzoukas
He doesn't even look up.
Eliot Glazer
He doesn't look up for a while. Then he does look up, continues to talk, looking at her and doesn't notice.
Jason Mantzoukas
Right? And then at the end he goes, what happened to you? And then they get out of the scene.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas
And then Joy Fatone comes in the next morning and is like, no, no.
Dave Steffi
No, wait a second, wait a second, wait a second. He says, what happened to you? And she smiles, she smiles, she smiles like she. Like, I finally got fucked. Right?
June Diane Raphael
Yeah, that's what I got out of it too. Like she did some creepy shit with Joey Fatone, right?
Eliot Glazer
That's what was so interesting about her character. So then Joey Fatone retells the story to his friends, right?
Jason Mantzoukas
And they're like, what happened? And he basically tells her, he's like, I was doing my thing, which is like rocking out, I guess.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah. Rocking out in his bedroom, right?
Jason Mantzoukas
His big move is to kick the amp.
June Diane Raphael
That's it. He says that. He goes, that's my big move.
Jason Mantzoukas
Like it's not like there's no ambiguity there, right? So. And his friends are like, uh, huh huh. Whatever happened? And then he fucking kicks her in the face.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah, the amp. Doesn't the amp like fly at her or something?
Jason Mantzoukas
No, he misses the amp face and she falls over and he goes, I broke her nose. And they all go, oh. And he goes, and her ankle. And then they Start laughing. And then he goes, guys, it's not funny. Yeah. And then they stop.
Dave Steffi
That scene where Joey Fatone, GQ and. And the smart guy are eating cereal, eating Frosted Flakes.
Jason Mantzoukas
Frosted Flakes. Big box of Frosted Flakes prominent.
Dave Steffi
They are eating. They are eating food so loudly. There is such loud, wet mouth sounds disgusting in that. It was overwhelming. Wetness of chewing.
June Diane Raphael
I love that.
Jason Mantzoukas
The other Fred up the level.
Eliot Glazer
The sound mixer brought up the level.
Jason Mantzoukas
Fuck these guys. Fucking check.
June Diane Raphael
And they're just talking about. They're talking about, like, getting laid.
Dave Steffi
I couldn't believe.
June Diane Raphael
I do want to revisit the Al Green scene again. Because it was a missed connection because Turkey Sub was there and so is Hubcap. But they miss each other. But they get. Hubcat gets kicked out cause he doesn't have tickets. Now, meanwhile, this Al Green concert is like, in a formal dining space. It's like 60 people. How did he even get there and get a table? He was seated front row, front row, front row, front row.
Eliot Glazer
And by the way, like, why. Why did they. So this is. Obviously, they needed to get them in the same space together. So the writers fix to. That was to have GQ say he had tickets to this thing and then get him to go, but he doesn't know Turkey Sub's gonna be there.
Jason Mantzoukas
No, no, no, no.
Eliot Glazer
I guess GQ also likes Al Green.
Jason Mantzoukas
Who doesn't love Al Green Jr. My God.
June Diane Raphael
Young men love Al Green. My dad, these guys, you could guess.
Dave Steffi
That they might be there because they talked about loving Al Green. She said he's playing at that vent venue. In a normal movie, if I'm Hubcap, maybe that girl that I liked who said she loved Al Green and knew about that concert would be there.
Jason Mantzoukas
Well, that's great. But then why would you have GQ be in the front row? And then all of a sudden, yo, I forgot my tickets, yo. Shy tizzy.
June Diane Raphael
What did he say?
Eliot Glazer
At the supper club, nobody checks your ticket at the door. You just. You just walk in and sit down and start ordering drinks and a meal.
Jason Mantzoukas
Eating. He's eating.
Eliot Glazer
They're eating food.
Jason Mantzoukas
Ah, shit.
Eliot Glazer
And then a security guard comes over for no reason.
Jason Mantzoukas
No reason.
June Diane Raphael
By the way, why is Al Green doing dinner theater?
Jason Mantzoukas
It's not that big of stadiums and stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
June Diane Raphael
The Reverend is playing out bigger.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, the Reverend.
June Diane Raphael
So now the friends, you know, they fucked up. They started dating all these girls, having sex with all of them, and now they got. They got a. You know, now Lance Bass has gotten some bad play. I Guess. Cause, yeah, there's a return of events. Turkey Sub finds out about this.
Jason Mantzoukas
Well, Turkey Sub meets ghost.
June Diane Raphael
Yes.
Eliot Glazer
Yes. But even before that, I expected that the reveal of Turkey stuff. Finding out that this was all going on because she's not in Chicago very.
June Diane Raphael
Much, but she's been back to Chicago a lot.
Jason Mantzoukas
But then she just keeps moving.
Eliot Glazer
She says she wants to do field work. And her boyfriend Paul says, ugh, enough with the fossil hobby. And she says, it's not a hobby.
June Diane Raphael
Take that.
Jason Mantzoukas
First of all, he looks like. He looks like Tom Hanks at the end of Big when he turns back into a kid. Like, he's a young kid wearing a business suit. He's like, the markets, markets.
Eliot Glazer
He's like, don't say sell. Don't sell.
June Diane Raphael
His cell phone makers.
Jason Mantzoukas
Futures. Cattle futures.
Eliot Glazer
Yeah, but I figured, okay, so the way they're gonna reveal her finding out that she's been sort of detached from this whole thing and this crazy. Like, Chicago's taken by storm with this story, so it's gonna be really interesting how she finds out. No, she just walks over to a newspaper stand, right? Picks up a paper and reads it.
Jason Mantzoukas
That's it? Yeah, that's it.
June Diane Raphael
Just real casual, like, not excited. Calls the name, number, and that's it.
Dave Steffi
She just calls the number. She doesn't. She doesn't exclaim. She doesn't look surprised. She's just like, huh. Dials the phone and. And GQ picks up and pretends to be Kevin. And she's like, totally fine. All right, let's meet up.
Jason Mantzoukas
You know, before that, though, there's a great little scene where Lance Bass. Sorry, Hubcap. Answers the phone at his house, and we assume that it's Turkey Sub. He's like, hey, yeah, I'll meet you. I'll meet you. So he goes to dinner, and you see him waiting in the diner by him himself. And then you see her walk into a diner, and they do, like, Silence of the Lambs where you don't know what's happening. And then it's just. No, it's the crazy girl. You know, the level four at Improv Olympic in Chicago. Got cast doing the whole.
Dave Steffi
I feel like a cutter. I feel like we have a cosmic connection.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That.
Dave Steffi
My favorite part about that was at the end when cosmic connection and hubcap, it goes wrong. And she gets mad at him.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah, yeah.
Dave Steffi
She. She leaves. She, like, storms. But she first leaves money. She takes money out of her purse and puts it on the table.
Jason Mantzoukas
Well, she's a considerate Christmas as Best.
Dave Steffi
As I can tell, she has not eaten, ordered or drank anything.
June Diane Raphael
And cosmic connection also. Isn't cosmic connection the same girl who goes, I don't need to take this. I'm from Oregon.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What? God. I didn't. I didn't notice she left money. I didn't notice she left money. Maybe that's one of her quirks.
June Diane Raphael
I love it. Having this.
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June Diane Raphael
The guys try to help him back help out Lance Bass. And they make a sign that says, has anyone seen this girl? And it's the most crude drawing. It is like a stick figure head.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
June Diane Raphael
And they're going around going, hey, have you seen this girl? Have you seen this, this girl?
Eliot Glazer
Stick figure head, stick figure head. And they're screaming at people, they're harassing them.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Eliot Glazer
These people can't do anything to help you, right?
Jason Mantzoukas
No, I don't know what you're talking about. Fucking leave me alone.
Dave Steffi
The thing is, GQ had her. GQ had the girl and he lets her get away.
Jason Mantzoukas
I love too.
Eliot Glazer
I mean, and not. Sorry. Not only does he let her get away, but when all the friends find out that he actually saw her, they say you have to take. Tell Hubcap immediately.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Eliot Glazer
He takes his time.
Jason Mantzoukas
He's in no rush.
June Diane Raphael
It goes to another baseball game, right?
Jason Mantzoukas
Which by the way, of course the Chicago Cubs are such. You can shoot a fucking bukkake film. They're like, yeah, sure, great, absolutely.
Eliot Glazer
And then you know, when are you gonna be here?
Jason Mantzoukas
You know you're fucked. When the best line and the best line reading in your film comes from.
June Diane Raphael
Sammy Sosa, which I would love to play for you right now. This is, it's, it's basically Sammy Sosa has had this problem where he keeps on hitting foul balls into GQ's nuts.
Jason Mantzoukas
So can I say that's Never happened in the history of baseball, let alone three times in one season.
Paul Scheer
Three times.
June Diane Raphael
And it looked like they were also. It looked like the foul ball. It didn't look like they were in an area where that foul ball would come right into his nuts.
Eliot Glazer
And if that happened, he would be seriously impressed.
Jason Mantzoukas
He'd be a contusion. He'd be in the hospital. Fucking be sad.
June Diane Raphael
Let's listen to something. Sammy Sosa's line, the first line. There are two other Cubs I don't know the names of. And then the third one is Sammy Sosa.
Jason Mantzoukas
Ooh, that's gotta hurt. I can't believe he's hit that guy three times this season.
June Diane Raphael
Damn. That's the third time this season I hit this guy.
Eliot Glazer
Best performance in the movie.
Dave Steffi
I wonder if the line was. They were like, maybe people aren't gonna understand, Sammy. So maybe we need people who don't speak with an accent to say the same line first.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
June Diane Raphael
Just set it up. Set the table a little bit.
Jason Mantzoukas
Jesus. It's impossible, by the way. That's completely impossible. You can't hit someone in the nuts. It's just. It's out of. Yeah. No, no.
June Diane Raphael
Oh, man. And nuts is a runner in this movie too. He goes, oh, he just got hit in the. And somebody's like, would you like nuts in your Chinese food? That's literally the next scene. Just got hit in the. Would you like nuts in your Chinese food?
Jason Mantzoukas
I also gotta see it again. But I feel like when he gets hit in the balls, there's a. Or something like a voom.
June Diane Raphael
I mean, there's a sheep sound effect at one point.
Jason Mantzoukas
There is a sheep. I heard that. Yeah.
Eliot Glazer
I'm sorry to go back to the injured girl and Joey Fatone, but where did we land on that? So she really got something out of that experience?
June Diane Raphael
Well, Joey Fatone also goes. She got rocked.
Eliot Glazer
Okay, so are we to understand that after he hit her and she fell, she rolled back off that bed backwards, fell on the ground.
June Diane Raphael
No one has equilibrium in Chicago.
Jason Mantzoukas
They fucked after that. After he broke her nose and her ankle.
Eliot Glazer
And then she went to the hospital.
Jason Mantzoukas
Then she went to the hospital. The doctors says. What happened? Broke my nose, broke my ankle. When? An hour ago. What were you doing in between? Fucking. Why didn't you come here right away?
June Diane Raphael
By the way, Joey Fatone did not accompany her to the hospital. I don't believe he did.
Jason Mantzoukas
Wait a minute, wait a minute. Hold on, hold on. Wait a minute. How did she meet Joey Fatone?
June Diane Raphael
Because she called the number Sorry, forgot.
Jason Mantzoukas
There's a lot of information, guys. I'm sorry. I forgot.
June Diane Raphael
Oh, my goodness. Jesus.
Eliot Glazer
Do you think that they were gonna have. I mean, I won't cut to the end of the movie. I mean, there's stuff. Everybody sort of has a happy ending at the end.
June Diane Raphael
Oh, yeah. Everything works out except for us.
Eliot Glazer
But do you think that those characters end?
June Diane Raphael
Oh, yeah, they definitely did. They had that thing.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah, they have a little thing at the end.
June Diane Raphael
And then she comes in at the end. Because when the Mick is there and the Mick is saying, like, I want you to do my new record. Give me your temple. And by the way, she's totally healed. Like a day or two.
Jason Mantzoukas
A broken nose. It's simple. It's a real quick fix.
June Diane Raphael
All right, so basically, the movie takes a really bold choice, which is the last 20 minutes could probably be condensed into five.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah, two. I was gonna say two.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah, two. It's like. It's so many music montages, so many sad faces, like, they're just. Just wading through at this point. They're just like, we need to make this 120 minutes.
Eliot Glazer
We think that Jerry Stillers had a heart attack.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yes. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Eliot Glazer
Which is. Well, which was surprising.
Jason Mantzoukas
He actually had a heart attack because he found out he was doing this movie and he just fucking killed over. Wait a minute. I'm sorry. Was I really stoned? Or is there a scene where fucking Hubcap is breakdancing in the office by.
Dave Steffi
Himself wearing ladies Reebok sneakers?
Eliot Glazer
And not only that, that. But after Hubcap gets so into it that he's like. He's on the ground, he's breakdancing. Then Jackie walks in.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah.
Eliot Glazer
She catches up there. And then he pretends to hide.
Paul Scheer
Yeah.
Dave Steffi
He starts.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah, he kind of like.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas
He kind of curls into a ball a little bit. Yeah.
Eliot Glazer
As though, like, he was saying to her, just like, I'm not here. Like, I'm not here. Like, this isn't happening.
Dave Steffi
Guys. Why is he putting on women's sneakers?
Eliot Glazer
I mean, I did respect the products.
Jason Mantzoukas
So he can come up with the killer jingle.
June Diane Raphael
But meanwhile, they already came up with the jingle. They got it. Yeah, they got it. In the beginning of the movie. It's like, for girls on the move, Reebok. And then he's constantly working on his ad campaign.
Paul Scheer
Like, what else?
June Diane Raphael
No, no, we got it. We got it.
Jason Mantzoukas
We got it.
June Diane Raphael
We got it.
Eliot Glazer
Yeah. Let's talk about Reebok for a second. Because they originally don't really care about him. And he's put on the team kind of by accident.
June Diane Raphael
He's put on the team because he was in the paper. And then Reebok, Dave Foley first is like, get on the. The team.
Jason Mantzoukas
I'm gonna use him to my advantage.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah. And then the newspaper was like, get on the. Then they saw the newspaper like, get on the team.
Eliot Glazer
But they were on the team. But why would they want him on the team? Because he's.
June Diane Raphael
Because he's looking for him.
Eliot Glazer
Posting this misconnection, like, I wasn't quite sure.
Jason Mantzoukas
God, I don't know how that logic works. It's just he's like a celebrity now, right?
Eliot Glazer
So they want him. He's a celebrity, so they want him on his advertising.
Dave Steffi
They know he was the guy. Did they know the guy in the paper was the guy that was on their head team?
Jason Mantzoukas
Yes, Reebok does. Yes.
June Diane Raphael
That's why when the paper turned against him, they're like, we want him off.
Jason Mantzoukas
We've changed our mind officially here.
Eliot Glazer
Oh, wait a second. Here's a big hole. Reebok thought that it was Jackie's idea.
Dave Steffi
Oh, yeah, because Jackie stole his idea.
Jason Mantzoukas
She stole his idea. Yeah.
June Diane Raphael
All right, so we are. We are nearing the end of this movie here.
Jason Mantzoukas
Holy.
Dave Steffi
We gotta wrap this up. This is insane.
Eliot Glazer
Stiller delivers a couple sports monologues.
June Diane Raphael
How did you get that? Because in the beginning of the movie, he goes, how'd you get that? Baseball?
Jason Mantzoukas
And he's like, I'm not going to tell you.
June Diane Raphael
And then at the end, well, he.
Jason Mantzoukas
Had a life changing experience. He wants to get it all out before he's gone. I mean, I get it. It makes sense.
June Diane Raphael
By the way, for a man who had a heart attack, he's totally fine. He's almost in a nursing home. Yeah, he's like in a beautiful, like, arboretum in a wheelchair.
Jason Mantzoukas
They actually shot that scene on the King of Queen set. They were like, listen, you're going to lose Stiller. You got to go to him. Shoot the scene there.
June Diane Raphael
Go, go, go.
Jason Mantzoukas
One of my favorite exchanges is as at the end, when all the buddy bros come back together in the. At the bar, and one of the guys GQ says to him, you look good. Lance Bass goes, I feel good. And the smart guy goes, you look good. My confers, rule of improv.
Eliot Glazer
Listen, it's been established, honestly, the writers and director didn't trust that all the lines would be heard again. There's something happening with the sound guys on the set. They just wanted to get all the lines a couple times.
June Diane Raphael
So this movie Was made for you. Anyone want to take a guess how much this movie was made for?
Jason Mantzoukas
I will say $12 million.
June Diane Raphael
June.
Eliot Glazer
Yeah, I'm gonna say like maybe 8.
June Diane Raphael
Jason.
Dave Steffi
20, 20.
June Diane Raphael
16 million bucks. And it made a whopping 4.3.
Jason Mantzoukas
Just keep the money.
Eliot Glazer
4.3. That's a lot of money that didn't go on the screen.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah, there's nothing.
Dave Steffi
Terrible.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah, it looks terrible.
Eliot Glazer
There's no hair and makeup department.
June Diane Raphael
Oh, no, no. Turkey Sub doesn't have hair and makeup for the first quarter of the movie.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah, but Hubcap does.
June Diane Raphael
Hubcap has a lot. Oh, my gosh.
Jason Mantzoukas
I love too when Sambora and him show up at the end. It's like, it's like in Heat when Pacino and Geniro, finally, finally, these two screen legends are sharing the screen.
Eliot Glazer
I also loved in that scene, you know, everybody's. Everybody's found someone by the end. And the smart guy at the smart guy at the bottom turns around, he's listening to music. We're having a happy ending. And there's a girl holding an art book.
Jason Mantzoukas
An art book? An art book.
Eliot Glazer
Who I guess we're supposed to understand is smart and that they'll end up together.
June Diane Raphael
I guess so. By the way, the smart guy's in.
Eliot Glazer
A bar at night and holding an art book.
Jason Mantzoukas
Like a coffee table book. It's a coffee table book.
June Diane Raphael
By the way, the smart. If this is like a real movie, the smart guy would not want any part of the dating. And he would be like, no, no, I want to find love. Realistically.
Paul Scheer
No.
June Diane Raphael
He's out there fucking girls just as.
Jason Mantzoukas
Much as all the other females.
June Diane Raphael
So it's, it's not like a big deal that he found love because he even says like, oh, last night was awesome. Like, he's like, he's into it.
Eliot Glazer
The weird thing too about their plan is like, they seem to be meeting girls like every 15 minutes.
June Diane Raphael
Oh, yeah? Yeah.
Eliot Glazer
So is it about fucking them? Because they're meeting so, like, I don't know. Are they?
Dave Steffi
June, June. You just don't get what it is to be a guy.
Eliot Glazer
I guess not. I guess not.
Jason Mantzoukas
In the R rated version, they show them all fucking. It's all like immediate.
June Diane Raphael
Like the scene in wedding crowd, naked girls on the bed. Clearly we did not like this movie, but there are people who really did. And this is now time for a second opinion. These are Reviews culled from Amazon.com There's a couple of them this time because they were so great. I had to pull more than usual. This is a great One. This is written by Kerry Gilford. And this was written in 2001.
Eliot Glazer
That's not a real name.
Jason Mantzoukas
No one has that name.
June Diane Raphael
This is written by Cary Gilfeather. A real feel good movie when America needed it most.
Eliot Glazer
Oh, how dare you? Wow, I'm offended by that.
Dave Steffi
Horrible.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah, that's rough then. This is definitely a fake name. Tyresa Darksaber says Darksaber. Darksaber.
Jason Mantzoukas
Come on, get a better fake name than that. Darksaber.
June Diane Raphael
Darksaber.
Eliot Glazer
What I love about that is I feel like people, even though these are positive reviews, nobody's willing to put themselves out there.
June Diane Raphael
These are five star reviews because this is a clean movie. Of course there might be some language, but it was totally void of any long petting scenes.
Jason Mantzoukas
That's Theresa Darksaber.
June Diane Raphael
Theresa Darksaber.
Jason Mantzoukas
Isn't she on Game of Thrones?
June Diane Raphael
Now there's another one. These are written just by the blank names. I was very impressed with Joey and Lance's performance. There are better actors than these guys. But just imagine this movie with other people and you'll be fine.
Eliot Glazer
That's not my responsibility.
June Diane Raphael
That's a slam.
Jason Mantzoukas
That's a slam. That's not a good review.
June Diane Raphael
A five star review. If you don't like these guys, just imagine better people doing this.
Jason Mantzoukas
There are better actors, I'm not gonna lie. But if you imagine those better actors doing it, it's great.
June Diane Raphael
It also says here it could have been better with 15 or 20 minutes chopped off. It dragged down too long with 15 or 20. The movie's barely an hour, 58 minutes.
Dave Steffi
This could have been a good half hour sitcom.
June Diane Raphael
And this is my favorite one just because of the math of it. This is from Melissa Wilkins. For all the people who think it bombed, please keep in mind it was only in a thousand theaters. And when compared to the big pictures that show in more than 90,000 theaters.
Dave Steffi
90,000 theaters.
June Diane Raphael
They would have added, actually placed fourth for first week numbers. Not bad for a couple of boy band guys, huh? Thanks, Lance, for the great wholesome movie that we are so lacking. You don't have to be 14. I'm 35 and I enjoyed it. Aw, Paul.
Eliot Glazer
Let's stand the light, the heartbreak.
June Diane Raphael
90,000. No. By the way, just so you know, no movie is released on 90,000.
Jason Mantzoukas
There's not 90,000 screens ever.
Dave Steffi
There aren't 90,000 screens in America.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah, in the worldwide. I don't even know there's 90,000 screens basically in America. Like the most is like 3,000.
Jason Mantzoukas
I think it's 3,007. Hundred, I think 3,700.
June Diane Raphael
So 90,000. Yeah. If you put this. If it was released in 90,000 years.
Jason Mantzoukas
There might be 90,000 TV screens, but fucking movie screens, I don't know.
June Diane Raphael
So that is a sucker.
Eliot Glazer
I also love that at the very end when the Chicago Tribune.
Jason Mantzoukas
I'm sorry, guys, it's the Chicago Daily Post.
Eliot Glazer
I'm so sorry.
June Diane Raphael
We had a great article was that title.
Eliot Glazer
The Chicago Daily Post reports on this happy ending and publishes on the front page the worst picture of Turkey Sub and hup. Guess.
June Diane Raphael
Oh yeah. Oh my God, I already see that. Her eyes are closed.
Jason Mantzoukas
They were running out of money at that point. Like just fucking whatever. Use any. Just put two makeup stills together. Fucking fuck it.
June Diane Raphael
By the way, the end of this movie, the coverage on this event is like the space shuttle launch. It's like there's so many cameras. Everyone's gathered around their TVs, everyone's watching.
Jason Mantzoukas
Civilians on the L platform are like, I'm not going to work today. Fuck my family. I'm gonna watch fucking Turkey Sub and fucking Hubcap shake hands. And then of course, like we said that just that great character driven. A little tag at the end with Timberlake.
June Diane Raphael
Oh, Timberlake. They actually was the best part of the movie. They stopped the end of the movie. It's almost. They didn't even trust it to be in the end credits. Yeah, Al Green starts singing again. Al Green comes up and he's singing. They cut that off immediately. And they go behind the scenes. And it was really behind the scenes.
Jason Mantzoukas
I've never seen that before.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah, it was. And it was just jt. But you get why jt. JT went on to a lot of bigger movies than this.
Jason Mantzoukas
He has more charisma than every single person in that movie combined.
June Diane Raphael
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas
He's a movie star.
June Diane Raphael
Lance Bass, I guess he. What else did he do after this? I now pronounce you Chuck and Larry.
Dave Steffi
Well, he's now one of the biggest actors in America, isn't he?
Jason Mantzoukas
You're thinking of Ben Stiller, Jason.
Dave Steffi
Oh, my bad.
Jason Mantzoukas
But like in Chuck and Larry, I think it was just like a literally one off gay joke where some Sandler's like, yeah, look, this Lance Bass, he's a gay guy like me, you know, like it wasn't a big part. Well, Joey Fatone I know recently was on fucking like Celebrity Cook off and he brought as much energy to that as he did this movie.
Eliot Glazer
He looks like a guy, I really do.
Jason Mantzoukas
He seems like probably like the nicest guy in the world. He Tries really hard.
June Diane Raphael
Well, he was also. He was also in Jersey Shore Shark Attack. Oh, that's right, man. Cat Incubus and Karaoke Battle usa. The Kentucky Derby Imagination.
Dave Steffi
I genuinely hope you're looking these up and not reciting these for them.
June Diane Raphael
Beethoven's big break. The dog movie. Beethoven.
Jason Mantzoukas
So that year, like two years ago, the Oscars, it was no country for Old Men, There Will Be Blood, Jersey Shore, Shark Attack. What were the other ones?
June Diane Raphael
I think it was a dual year. Wasn't Mancation nominated? Mancation might have been there.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah, yeah, I forgot that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
June Diane Raphael
Oh, my God. So that is this movie. Did we miss anything that anyone wants to chat about?
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, God.
Eliot Glazer
Just strange that one of the big plot points is that they have this crazy connection because they can both recite every president in order.
Paul Scheer
Yeah, that's how they connect.
Eliot Glazer
That's like a huge part of their story.
June Diane Raphael
Their love that they know the president still love tears.
Jason Mantzoukas
Tell me a secret you've never told before that is so fucking.
Eliot Glazer
You've never told a stranger.
Jason Mantzoukas
You're told a stranger. That's. That's madness.
Dave Steffi
Still the best.
June Diane Raphael
Oh, my God, guys, we have T shirts. They're awesome. They're brand new. They're Crank two. Inspired. Jason Oda made them for us and they're amazing. Our new guy pulling our clips, Dave Steffi. Thank you for pulling our clips for on the Line. Didn't mean to make you watch it. Would you guys recommend people seeing this movie? I think I would.
Eliot Glazer
I think it's a fun movie.
Jason Mantzoukas
I think it's a fun movie to watch. Clearly. Tracy Lightsaber thinks it's good.
June Diane Raphael
Theresa Dark Saber.
Jason Mantzoukas
Dark Saber thinks it's good family fun. It's a movie to watch if you're, you know, you know, eight year old girl who's had some head trauma.
June Diane Raphael
And if you have YouTube, you can watch it in easy installments.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, yeah, just go to Lance Bass fan page. Remember, it is posted with the express permission of Lance Bass.
June Diane Raphael
You can follow us on Twitter. I am Paul Sheer.
Jason Mantzoukas
Isjunedian ikebarinholtz.
June Diane Raphael
There you go.
Dave Steffi
I'm not on Twitter, guys. I'm not on Twitter.
June Diane Raphael
Jason, not on Twitter.
Jason Mantzoukas
2012, man. You gotta get on there, bud.
June Diane Raphael
And Jason, you have a big movie coming out this week, the Dictator.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yes.
June Diane Raphael
Coming out. Yup.
Dave Steffi
Please, everybody go next Wednesday the 16th. Please go and see the Dictator. Dictator.
Jason Mantzoukas
Can't wait.
June Diane Raphael
It's gonna be awesome. All right, well, that is all. Thank you, Ike, so much for being here.
Jason Mantzoukas
Thank you.
June Diane Raphael
You're awesome.
Jason Mantzoukas
Love the show. Love the podcast.
June Diane Raphael
This is amazing. You have to come back. All right, thanks so much. That's it.
Jason Mantzoukas
Bye.
June Diane Raphael
Bye, bye.
Ike Barinholtz
Hanaday presents. In the red corner, the undisputed, undefeated weed whacker guy, champion of hurling grass and pollen everywhere. And in the blue corner, the challenger, extra strength Hataday eye drops that work all day to prevent the release of histamines that cause itchy allergy eyes. And the winner by knockout is Patinay Pataday. Bring it on.
Jason Mantzoukas
Hey, everybody.
Paul Scheer
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In this episode of "How Did This Get Made?", hosts Paul Scheer, June Diane Raphael, and Jason Mantzoukas are joined by special guest Ike Barinholtz to dissect the notorious 2001 NSync movie, "On the Line." Known for its exceptionally poor reception, the episode delves deep into the film's myriad flaws, questionable performances, and baffling production choices.
The discussion kicks off with the hosts introducing Ike Barinholtz, a familiar face from MADtv and Eastbound & Down, setting the stage for a thorough critique of the movie.
June Diane Raphael [02:25]: "We are joined today by the very funny Ike Barinholtz... He played the Russian pitcher. Welcome, Ike."
"On the Line" is portrayed as a romantic comedy centered around Lance Bass, who plays a man actively dating but freezes when he meets the woman he's truly interested in. The hosts immediately highlight the movie's inability to establish clear stakes or coherent character motivations.
Jason Mantzoukas [02:39]: "I'd say besides 9/11, it's the worst thing to happen in 2001."
The film's premise is criticized for its lack of depth and confusing narrative structure.
June Diane Raphael [03:19]: "Lance Bass is a guy who is dating, but he just clams up when he finds the right girl."
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to scrutinizing the performances, particularly focusing on Joey Fatone and Lance Bass. Fatone's attempts at acting are met with mixed reviews, acknowledging his comedic background but questioning his fit in a leading role.
Jason Mantzoukas [12:05]: "I thought, for being a non-actor, Joey Fatone, this is controversial. I thought he did a fine job."
GQ and Dave Foley are also mentioned, with the hosts noting a general lack of chemistry and depth in performances, contributing to the film's overall mediocrity.
The hosts delve into numerous production disasters that plague "On the Line," ranging from poor sound mixing to inexplicable script choices.
The movie's sound design is heavily criticized for its overwhelming and inappropriate use of sound effects and music, which detracts from the viewing experience.
June Diane Raphael [09:26]: "This movie was scored by a fucking DJ."
The relentless and often jarring music montages are highlighted as a significant flaw, disrupting the narrative flow and emotional beats.
Jason Mantzoukas [24:49]: "This movie is the most uncinematic film at all."
The script's lack of coherence and the movie's erratic pacing are major points of contention. The hosts point out scenes that feel stretched unnaturally, leading to a disjointed and tiresome viewing experience.
June Diane Raphael [45:40]: "It takes a really bold choice, which is the last 20 minutes could probably be condensed into five."
"On the Line" is rife with blatant product placements, particularly of brands like Reebok and McDonald's, which the hosts mock for their intrusive presence.
June Diane Raphael [08:30]: "Reebok is really up our ass on this account."
The movie is riddled with plot holes and inconsistent character actions, leaving the audience bewildered. The absence of modern conveniences like the internet, despite the film being released in 2001, is a recurring joke among the hosts.
June Diane Raphael [14:12]: "2001. Right. That didn't exist. Right."
The unconvincing and rushed romantic developments further exacerbate the film's narrative shortcomings.
Jason Mantzoukas [27:09]: "They didn't beat the script that enough, I think was the biggest problem."
The episode humorously tackles the movie's reception, showcasing fake positive reviews from dubious sources to emphasize the film's lack of genuine acclaim.
June Diane Raphael [51:33]: "This is written by Cary Gilfeather. A real feel good movie when America needed it most."
Real negative feedback is also parodied, reinforcing the movie's failure to resonate with audiences.
"On the Line" is acknowledged for its financial failure, having grossed a mere $4.3 million against an estimated budget ranging from $8 to $16 million.
June Diane Raphael [49:38]: "It made a whopping 4.3."
The limited release across a questionable number of theaters is mocked, highlighting the movie's lack of commercial viability.
June Diane Raphael [53:43]: "They would have added, actually placed fourth for first week numbers. Not bad for a couple of boy band guys, huh?"
Despite the overwhelming criticism, the hosts conclude that "On the Line" can be entertaining in its own flawed way. They recommend it to listeners who appreciate "so-bad-it's-good" cinema, suggesting it as an amusing watch for a good laugh.
June Diane Raphael [57:33]: "I think it's a fun movie to watch. Clearly."
Additionally, they mention the availability of the film on YouTube, allowing interested viewers to access it conveniently.
Jason Mantzoukas [57:56]: "You can imagine better people doing this."
The episode effectively highlights why "On the Line" is considered one of the worst films ever made, dissecting its numerous flaws with humor and camaraderie. For fans of the podcast and enthusiasts of cinematic misfires, this episode offers an entertaining deep dive into a film that seemingly missed every mark.
Note: All timestamps correspond to specific points in the transcript provided.