
An animatronic dinosaur with a teen’s brain, dinosaur charades, a weird striptease for a brain in a bowl, and much more. Paul, June, and Jason discuss the 1994 science fiction comedy Tammy and the T-Rex. So you know what that means… (Originally released 5/20/21)
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They say true love never dies, especially if you transplant its brain into a robot dinosaur. We saw Tammy and the T Rex oh I'm sorry, hold on. We saw Tammy and the T Rex oh wait, hold on. We saw Tammy and the Teenage T Rex. I don't know what we saw but we saw one of those so you know what that means.
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Paul Scheer
Bubble speed to hit the cruise control Jane D Big Paul in the beautiful Jewel gonna take you from the groove all the way to the the street fighter hopes to blow off steam just a sucker punch the odd life of Timothy Green shield is bird demic how we staying alive they call him in the badass and he's on the line cranking 88 minutes cuz they cool as ice cuz they bad Jim funny looking kind at night calling sh getting litter while Jason is getting laid June is making sure all the monkey shots getting paid they just a bunch of movies while they the grave Here's a real question for you. How did this get Paid. All right. Hello, people of Earth, and welcome to a virtual how did this get made? Live event. Today, we will be discussing Tammy and the T. Rex. Or at least, like I said in the opening, we think that's what it's called. Because this movie, if you've watched it, it will say it's Tammy and the T. Rex. And if You've watched the PG13 version of the movie, it is called Tammy and the Teenage T. Rex. So there's a lot of titles here. I don't know which version you saw. There's a gore cut. There's a, like I said, A PG 13, a little bit more romantic cut. But the thing that you have to remember is the plot is the same in all of them. And what is the plot? Well, I'll tell you. Denise Richards is in love with Paul Walker, but yet her old boyfriend won't let her go. So he does what any old scorned boyfriend does. He takes her new boyfriend, Paul Walker, out to the animal park to let him be eaten alive by a lion. His body then is taken by a mad scientist and his brain is taken out and put into the body of an animatronic dinosaur. That's the premise of this movie. Then the dinosaur has its revenge and continues its love story. It's complicated and it's amazing. And I am so excited that we are talking about this film because this is like one of my favorite types of films, which is it knows it's insane, but at the same time, it is being incredibly insane. It's like they just knew a little bit of how insane they were. They didn't understand the full birth of it, I guess. To talk about this film, we have two amazing people. People who love gore, people who love dinosaurs. Please welcome my co host, Mr. Jason Mantzoukas. Come on.
Jason Mantzoukas
What? I expect people at home shouting at their screens. I'm waiting for them to stop screaming. Paul. Yes, how are you? What's up, jerks?
Paul Scheer
What's up, jerks, indeed. Jason, so excited to talk to you about this movie. I mean, Thomas, have you heard of. Yeah, hold on.
Jason Mantzoukas
Hold on for a minute. Paul.
Paul Scheer
Excuse me, is out.
Jason Mantzoukas
I gotta steep that tea for all the T heads. For all the T heads. Tell me what tea you're having. In the chat report.
Paul Scheer
In the chat. Boom. It is T kabla.
Jason Mantzoukas
Moroccan mint, baby.
Paul Scheer
Moroccan mint. I love it. I love that you're bringing. I went on the liquor route with my. I went with aviation gin. Ryan Reynolds gin.
Jason Mantzoukas
Is this.
Paul Scheer
Come on.
Jason Mantzoukas
What is going on? I feel like in A different episode. You had a Deadpool head.
Paul Scheer
I did.
Jason Mantzoukas
Look, I feel like you are. Wait, are you like, somehow working for Ryan Reynolds?
Paul Scheer
I don't know. Maybe I'll use my Cricket mobile phone and give him a call and find out.
Jason Mantzoukas
Wait a minute.
Paul Scheer
What does that mean?
Jason Mantzoukas
Do you have a Canadian passport? Now?
Paul Scheer
All I'm gonna say is, check out the Hitman's Bodyguard. It is going to bring you some joy. And it's so due for a sequel. I cannot wait. I'm glad that movie theaters are open again so I can enjoy that sequel in the theaters, where movies go long.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yes, movies. Keep them in the theaters and out of our homes.
Paul Scheer
Jason. We were gonna do this movie a long time ago and this DVD has been sitting on my shelf and I've not opened it until last night. That was so exciting.
Jason Mantzoukas
This was wild. Cause I only knew the title. I didn't know what we were getting into. But the title alone suggested to me what might happen. So huge reveals straight out of the gate. Paul Walker, right?
Paul Scheer
Yeah. Our.
Jason Mantzoukas
Our guy from Fast and Brian from Fast and Furious. Shocked. I didn't know he was in this movie. Young, looking, great. Handsome. Denise Richards in this movie. Crushing. Stone cold crushing this movie. I was like, oh, okay, I see what's happening. Then the shit. I was like, okay, cool. This is like a lost kind of teen, you know, movie.
Paul Scheer
Yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas
You insert a. What appears to me to be the warriors from the movie. The warriors as a, like the gang. The gang of bad guys seems to be ported in from an early 80s gang movie. And then animatronic dinosaur and mad scientists. I was like, how have we never done this before?
Paul Scheer
I. There's so much to break down. But I love any movie that basically feels like someone went on the Jurassic park ride at Universal. Was like, if I can maybe steal one of those, I could make a movie instead of the other way around. Which is like, those are like the bad versions of what were in the movie. They took that.
Jason Mantzoukas
It was also an interesting thing to be like, oh, I see that. Jurassic park remade dinosaurs. And what I'm going to do is just bring human consciousness to an animatronic dinosaur. That's. That's a very bizarre move.
Paul Scheer
I mean, wild, wild move. And you know, who loves dinosaurs, who loves a romance? And who loves hats and beautiful hairstyles and beautiful wardrobe? My other co host. Please welcome Ms. June Diane Rayfield. June, how are you?
June Diane Raphael
Let me just finish that sip. I'm drinking a glass of wine. I'm doing fine. Paul, how are you?
Paul Scheer
I'm well, glad to hear that you are Fine.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah. I'm drinking wine like an adult woman.
Jason Mantzoukas
Great.
June Diane Raphael
Like an adult woman.
Jason Mantzoukas
I'm drinking tea like an adult man.
June Diane Raphael
Okay. And I'm gonna say something about this. Cause I got a lot of flack. I got a lot of flack.
Paul Scheer
I got a lot of pushback already.
Jason Mantzoukas
Wait, is this a flack attack?
June Diane Raphael
This is a major flack attack. I want to say I thought I made it clear. But it's not that. I just don't care for male tea drinkers. I don't care for tea drinkers in general.
Paul Scheer
Wow. And the chat is going wild, I'm sure.
June Diane Raphael
The chat, I'm not worried about. I am not here to keep the chat happy. Okay. That's not what I'm doing tonight, Chappie. And, yeah, I don't care if you're chappy or you're not chappy.
Paul Scheer
Don't. I want to say talk about Chappie.
June Diane Raphael
I think the reason. I think the reason why I've been so turned off to tea drinkers is because when I was at acting school, New York University's Tisch School of the Arts, I was a student at four years.
Jason Mantzoukas
Where are you? Who are you looking at?
June Diane Raphael
Stella Adler, Conservatory of Act.
Paul Scheer
June brought in a small audience. June brought in a small audience to our house.
June Diane Raphael
That's fine. Right over there. Let her in, too.
Jason Mantzoukas
Do you have a VIP section?
June Diane Raphael
I've sold a few tickets of my own for a private VIP experience.
Paul Scheer
I had to sell. I had to be like an usher earlier. I've been running around. I'm sweating my ass off here.
June Diane Raphael
Listen, at Tisch, there were so many musical theater students. And honestly, especially women who were always on vocal rest and always drinking tea.
Jason Mantzoukas
Here's what I'm gonna say. I would understand if I was like this. Like, I love my tea.
June Diane Raphael
There's no other way to drink tea than like that.
Jason Mantzoukas
I'm drinking tea like a goddamn man drink tea.
Paul Scheer
And here I am. And once again, as a little, like a dichotomy of our show, I'm in between both of you. I'm drinking alcoholic beverage. And I have a tea beverage here, too. So I. I have both sides. And that's not all.
June Diane Raphael
Let me be clear. Iced tea is not what I'm concerned about.
Jason Mantzoukas
Thank you.
Paul Scheer
That's why our marriage. Exactly.
Jason Mantzoukas
Let's be absolutely 100% clear.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah. Words matter. And it's contempt. And it's this. It's the soaking. It's the pulling it out and then putting the Tea bag. Like soaking.
Paul Scheer
You don't say soaking.
Jason Mantzoukas
You don't soak the tea bag. Oh, the tea bag is steep. Soaking, soaked.
Paul Scheer
Steep.
Jason Mantzoukas
You steep it.
June Diane Raphael
It's steeping, soaking, whatever. It's the same idea. It's so gross.
Jason Mantzoukas
You don't. You don't say, I'm going to go out to the hot tub to have a good steep. That's a good soak, right?
Paul Scheer
All right. Ariel in the chat is saying that tea is the salad of drinks.
June Diane Raphael
Now, I don't know exactly.
Paul Scheer
Wow, that salad is good. I didn't know how to take that.
June Diane Raphael
You go out to dinner at this point, after a year and a half, you want to go out to a restaurant, Paul, and have a salad.
Paul Scheer
Well, I'm not saying it's my main.
June Diane Raphael
But that's what she's saying. Tea is the salad of drinks. It's neither here nor there.
Jason Mantzoukas
But no salad is even at its best.
June Diane Raphael
No, no, no. Even at its best. It's never that great.
Jason Mantzoukas
Well, I agree. Listen. Agree to disagree.
Paul Scheer
A nice chai, June.
Jason Mantzoukas
A nice chai. I'm almost done fully soaking this tea bag.
June Diane Raphael
I hate seeing people deal with their tea. I hate it. We could spend a lot of time on tea talk.
Jason Mantzoukas
I couldn't be happier to be here with you both to talk about a truly insane movie.
Paul Scheer
Oh, by the way, I didn't tell anybody this, but this is just for the chat. We do have a special guest here tonight. Here he is.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, wow.
Paul Scheer
A real T. Rex is here to chat. It was a lot of fun.
Jason Mantzoukas
Wait, are you doing that? Did you plan on doing the voice for this?
Paul Scheer
No, I did not plan. I'm going to. I was trying to. Trying to turn him on, and I couldn't figure out where the on button was.
Jason Mantzoukas
Okay.
June Diane Raphael
So I'm gonna say something, actually try.
Jason Mantzoukas
And turn him on.
June Diane Raphael
I'm glad you just did that, Paul, because that was one of my first questions. If the T. Rex has the brain of. What's his name? Michael.
Jason Mantzoukas
Paul Walker.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah, Paul Walker. If he has his brain, why can't he talk?
Paul Scheer
Okay, great.
Jason Mantzoukas
Well, you also notice because he's, like, made of foam rubber and whatever else. Like, his tongue doesn't move. Like, his tongue doesn't have mobility.
Paul Scheer
He's not body.
June Diane Raphael
But he can also. But he can send some signals to, like, pick up a phone and talk.
Jason Mantzoukas
About how agile he is with those hands. Like tiny, tiny T. Rex hands. He manages to get. He searches the pay phones change thing in case there's change in there.
Paul Scheer
Like, he gives a finger to the cops. No, he, like, I mean, look, the handwork in this clearly is a wink at the audience because, well, I mean, let's even take a step back to what June was saying in the beginning. Like, this movie is insane simply because most films would say, hey, we have an animatronic dinosaur. Let's make a movie about a dinosaur. And this movie goes, we have an animatronic dinosaur. Let's make the movie about an animatronic dinosaur. Like, there. Like, the premise is he is already like a robot. And so that's a weird thing. Like, the robot is.
June Diane Raphael
So you're saying, like, why not go to, like, the Museum of Natural History and get a real dinosaur skeleton?
Jason Mantzoukas
What it is, what it seems to me to be is a Frankens kind of riff, which is, you know, giving consciousness to something that is otherwise a non conscious entity.
June Diane Raphael
Right, right.
Jason Mantzoukas
Like the mad scientist seems to be very. Dr. Frankenstein creating Frankenstein's monster. Like, it lives, it lives kind of thing. But what I couldn't understand, and I agree with you, June, I agree. Like, if he can roar, if he can make noises with his mouth and.
June Diane Raphael
Go, why, yes, that body, not that body. Actually, mostly not that body and not that body and not that body.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, my God. That scene. The scene where they're puppeting dead bodies in the window for him to. Thumbs up, thumbs down is one of the best things I've ever seen.
Paul Scheer
Michael should choose his own body. You're right.
June Diane Raphael
Bring him over to the window.
Paul Scheer
Michael, I love you. What do you think of this one? Yeah, he's short, but he's thick. You know what I mean, Mike? No, he's thinking. No. Yes.
Jason Mantzoukas
Too short.
Paul Scheer
Well, you can't have everything. Honey, hurry up. He's gonna like this man. Michael, what about this one? He's a brother.
Jason Mantzoukas
Michael, you might like it.
Paul Scheer
I mean, he's in the back of a tractor trailer. Anything not to see. Because when we first meet the animatronic dinosaur, he is on, like, a platform. Like a platform that you would display in a museum or on a Jurassic park the ride kind of a thing. And so you can't really ever see his feet. And when you do, it's. It's almost better than the hands because it's so. It's so janky. But I guess I'm thinking about Frankenstein, and Frankenstein wasn't able to speak. Right. And. But you feel like at the end of this movie you wanted the dinosaur to go like, you know, like, try for something.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah, I agree. And it felt to me like you know, if they'd allowed for him to grow even rudimentary speech capabilities, yeah, it would have been cool. But we would have been robbed of the Denise Richards game of charades.
Paul Scheer
Charades.
Jason Mantzoukas
That is. Sounds like. Okay. Sounds like. Okay. Michael brain.
June Diane Raphael
Michael Charles brain is inside you. That jump was wild. Oh, I get it. Sounds like. Sounds like fingers.
Paul Scheer
No, rain.
June Diane Raphael
Sounds like rain.
Paul Scheer
Rain. Rain. Pain. Rain. Name.
June Diane Raphael
Brain.
Paul Scheer
Sounds like brain. What?
June Diane Raphael
Brain.
Paul Scheer
Michael. Michael brain.
June Diane Raphael
Michael brain. You have Michael's brain.
Paul Scheer
By the way. Also a complicated game. A complicated game of charades. Like, I feel like he was going like, rhymes with, like, getting to brain. It just seemed too, like, just say, I'm Michael. Like, I'm like, I'm Michael.
Jason Mantzoukas
He starts with more specificity. He points. He eats the yellow flower like Michael.
June Diane Raphael
He points for it gets broader and broader.
Jason Mantzoukas
He points to the bracelet that Michael gave her and says. And points to himself. Bracelet, himself. And she says, michael gave this to me, Michael. And then he does charades. By the way, you were right there.
Paul Scheer
This movie takes place in 36 hours, so I will also say that maybe Denise Richards character was just still in shock and having a traumatic moment, because ultimately, she goes to, like, whatever dance that is before the boy is even buried, like, in the ground. Like, it was like she's pulling herself up by her bootstraps, like, instantaneously. She's like, well, I guess I got to go to the dance. I mean, even though my boyfriend was.
Jason Mantzoukas
Murdered, there's so little. It's not stakes, but kind of. So many insane things happen in and around these characters. Specifically Denise Richards, obviously. But in front of all these other people, inclusive of Billy the. The bad guy, who, again, seems to be 36 and in charge of a group of gang, like, gang kids from a New York 1980s movie. He's basically out there being like, I'm gonna. He's being dragged away by police screaming, I'm gonna kill you. I'm gonna kill you, and I'm gonna murder you. And the police are like, Everybody is like, there are no nothing matters. Paul Walker gets dropped in a wildlife sanctuary, is mauled by a lion. And by the way, that's terrifying. Is terrific.
Paul Scheer
And terrifying horrific. Because I look, I saw a lot of, like, janky special effects in this movie, and I love them all, like, the flat body, everything. But when that person had their head.
Jason Mantzoukas
Rolling up the flat body, I didn't like that.
Paul Scheer
I mean, it was amazing. But when. But when that lion had his head, you know, in his mouth, I was. Yes. I don't Know how they did this? Because that looks fucking real.
Jason Mantzoukas
Well, when they cut to Paul Walker in the hospital, he is without a mark on him.
June Diane Raphael
Not a scratch. Not a scratch.
Paul Scheer
He has a black eye. A black and blue fight.
Jason Mantzoukas
That's from the nut grabbing fight. That's not.
June Diane Raphael
I don't even think that's going to lie.
Jason Mantzoukas
We have to talk about the nut grabbing fight as well or the dick grabbing fight. I'm not sure what they. I don't. I'm not sure if they were grabbing dick's nuts or the whole, the whole package, but.
Paul Scheer
Well, I mean, that scene, that scene made no sense.
Jason Mantzoukas
I've never seen anything like that in my life.
June Diane Raphael
I've never seen. Seen any. Is that a thing like science?
Jason Mantzoukas
That's what I asked. That's what I wrote.
Paul Scheer
Is that long? Not that long. Look, when you're in a.
June Diane Raphael
Not that long, Paul.
Jason Mantzoukas
What do you mean? Yeah, not that.
June Diane Raphael
What do you mean, not?
Paul Scheer
Well, you guys have been in fight.
Jason Mantzoukas
You might grab a guy's dick. You might grab a guy's dick in a fight, but only for a second or two.
Paul Scheer
Yeah, you're not like doing like, you're not twisting it. But I'm saying, like in a fight, you might want to take a, a cheap shot at someone's junk. But it's a cheap shot. They. They kind of had their hands like they were like, I'm. I've got my hand on something now. I'm twisting it, I'm turning it. And then the reveal at the end that Paul Walker goes. I was wearing a cup.
Jason Mantzoukas
So Paul Walker was acting that whole time.
Paul Scheer
And then the other guy must have just been grabbing the cup and thinking.
Jason Mantzoukas
That those were balls. Not noticed. Not notice. Grabbing hard plastic.
Paul Scheer
I mean, I'm. I've worn a cup. I'm wearing one right now and very hard. Yeah, if.
Jason Mantzoukas
If I'm. If. Let's say I'm grabbing a guy's nuts right here, right? And even if he's grabbing mine. Okay.
Paul Scheer
Yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas
This hand right here.
Paul Scheer
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, but. No but Jason, but you.
Jason Mantzoukas
But you are in the head.
June Diane Raphael
You're in such pain that I feel like you've forgotten about other options. I mean, you think that the thing that I would do, honestly, Jason, is great. Someone's grabbing me in the nuts and I'm grabbing them in the nuts. I would just let go of those other of those nuts.
Paul Scheer
Why?
Jason Mantzoukas
Okay.
June Diane Raphael
In the hopes that they would let go.
Paul Scheer
No, June, you can't do it.
June Diane Raphael
They're in a suicide pact.
Jason Mantzoukas
It's A standoff. It's a standoff. You. If you let go, you're admitting weakness.
Paul Scheer
Well, I mean, like, I don't know.
June Diane Raphael
They both look like they were in so much pain.
Paul Scheer
I think what I didn't like about it was it felt like they were gonna do it until something popped. And that, to me, is what, like this movie. There's a lot of pops and. And there's a lot of splurts. And I was like, are we starting there? Because they really were, like, twisted. Like, it's like. It was like they were winding it up.
Jason Mantzoukas
It was like a grab. You know, they were locked on. It was as if, you know, like the Vulcan nerve pinch or. It was as if it's a. It seemed as if they both knew an actual move in fights. That was this thing that I've never seen before. The way that, like, during anything like that, also do a bunch of, like, double WWE style. Like, dude, like, like, like wrestling moves that are, like, fake fight moves. So I was like, maybe this is akin to those wrestling moves that are, like, fake grabs that. That then they just were like, oh, this will be good. They'll. It'll be a standoff of. Of. Of crotch grab.
Paul Scheer
And.
Jason Mantzoukas
And I. I was. I will say I was compelled by it. It was fascinating. And there's so much.
June Diane Raphael
This is the thing about the movie. There's so much that's so strange. And granted, I did not watch a lot of the scenes. As Paul said, I can't do that gore. I don't want to see it. It's not for me.
Paul Scheer
But I see I'm turning my head on the croc. The. The crotch grab.
June Diane Raphael
I'm surprised, actually, there, because I was looking to Paul. I watched many of the scenes just watching Paul watch them. And you were more horrified than I've ever seen you.
Paul Scheer
Yeah, because you.
June Diane Raphael
You were pretty shocked and had trouble watching a couple of those really gory scenes.
Paul Scheer
I. I did, and I'll tell you why. It was too long. And the.
Jason Mantzoukas
The.
Paul Scheer
The gory scene that I had trouble with was the autopsy scene. Like, I didn't like. I didn't like going into the head. I didn't like the head being open like that. I didn't like.
Jason Mantzoukas
Well, here's what. Here's what I didn't like about it. Cause I want to back up a full step. That was not an autopsy scene, because an autopsy is done on a corpse. Paul Walker is alive when they cut his head off. Remember, he keeps waking up and being like, whatever. I can't Remember what. Forgive me, Denise Richards name is. Oh, Tammy. And he says, tammy or Tammy. Tammy. And then they give him a shot. They give him a shot. He passes out. Then he wakes up again, and he's like, huh, where am I? And then the woman, the sidekick to the. The mad scientist, the woman who is like his muscle, I think, just punches Paul Walker back into unconsciousness. They start to drill into his head. He wakes up again. She punches him again. And then they drill. With a drill from home. They drill his head off.
Paul Scheer
He is so setting.
Jason Mantzoukas
He is alive. It's not an autopsy.
Paul Scheer
Yeah. And the brain. Well, because the brain needs to be alive. And there's.
June Diane Raphael
Oh, that seems brain being alive, though. So he doesn't. He's not able to speak as a dinosaur. But then there's some sort of. At this point in time, there's a computer program that is able to get his voice at the end of the movie. Spoiler alert. Because Denise Richards, at the very end, after the dinosaurs been killed, is able to take his brain and attach it to a video camera. A video camera. That's a video. Okay, so a video camera that's attached to the brain can output.
Jason Mantzoukas
That's in her room. That's in her room in a bowl.
June Diane Raphael
In a. I thought it was in, like, Tupperware.
Jason Mantzoukas
You would think it would be in, like, a lab. It is in a teenager's bedroom.
June Diane Raphael
And, like, there's no top to that bowl. It's just out in the air.
Paul Scheer
That when that. When he. And I guess what I'm really worried about in that scene. And again, we're jumping all over and we're hitting all the big beats, but when that brain ejaculates, like, the explosion that goes on there, it was pretty. Like, that also upset me like that. Like, I felt like, is that. Like, is that. Does that happen all the time? She make his brain explode like that all the time? Because it doesn't seem good.
Jason Mantzoukas
It sparks. It sparks like what? When he comes while she's doing a sexy strip tease again, upstairs in her teenage bedroom while her parents are downstairs.
June Diane Raphael
But her parents know that this is going on.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yes, the brain sparks and is like, fits, Fitz fits. But it's in water. So. So doesn't that seem to say, like, is the brain in danger of electrocuting itself? Like, I'm. I'm also concerned. Who let her be in charge of. Well, I guess. I guess we can't let the brain go back to drunk guardian. I mean, he can't.
Paul Scheer
Bob. Uncle Bob.
Jason Mantzoukas
I mean, Uncle Bob control The brain.
Paul Scheer
I mean, Uncle Bob had some issues. I. I mean, there. There's so much here. I want to almost. If you would let me go back to the very beginning when we open up on a dance scene to a song that I have the lyrics.
June Diane Raphael
Oh, my God, I need to talk about that scene.
Paul Scheer
Avril Halle, obviously, she picked this movie, but what she did was a real. A work, such a. Such a favor, which is she wrote down all the lyrics to the song Dinosaur Man. So I have them. We can kind of go through there, but as we're talking through it, maybe we can just play the clip of Denise Richards dancing in this opening here where she is. This is clip 11.
Jason Mantzoukas
I do want to say that my first note was that I thought this song was awesome. I was like. It made me really excited for this movie, how awesome this song is. Sorry, go ahead.
Paul Scheer
Well, yeah, so here it is. We'll just see. Go, go Panthers.
Jason Mantzoukas
Go, go, go Panthers. Go, go Panthers.
Paul Scheer
Go, go Panthers.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, man, you're deep. Rex on loose. I'm coming out to get you. I'm gonna cook your goose. I'm a dinosaur, dude. King of the jungle.
Paul Scheer
All right. And I have more of the lyrics here. It's like, you know, king of the jungle coming after you. I'm a T. Rex on the prowl, A reptile on the move. You better watch your step. I'm coming after you. Dinosaur music inside my brain. Sometimes I feel like I'm going insane. I feel the rumble, I feel the roar. Dance to the music of the dinosaur. And I'm going to ask you this. Was that music diegetic? Were they dancing to that song or was that song scoring their dancing?
Jason Mantzoukas
Okay, no, I think that. I don't think it was diegetic.
June Diane Raphael
My question is, what is this? What is this activity? Like, are they cheerleaders? Are they on a dance team? Are they. What are they preparing for? And when. When do they actually. I actually know that routine.
Paul Scheer
So, no, they are not part of a dance squad. This is a. An after school club for women whose boyfriends will eventually be put inside a computer. And this is for them to practice their striptease so they can keep a healthy relationship until they find a proper body. So all that, like, it's kind of like a club or something like that.
Jason Mantzoukas
My assumption was that this was cheer practice because they seem to be in high school and Paul Walker seems to be wearing football clothes. When they have their interaction directly after this, you know, like they, they seem to be all in high school and Billy and the warriors seem to be in their 40s. And.
Paul Scheer
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June Diane Raphael
There is a woman I'm going to need to talk about for roughly three hours, and that's Billy's like the woman who has the hots for Billy. The two girls in the tracks. The two girls, specifically the blonde woman.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
June Diane Raphael
I. From the moment she came on screen, I could not take my eyes off of her. Her performance was deranged.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yes. She's the most interesting character in the movie.
June Diane Raphael
I could not take my eyes off of her. She was going for it on a level. I learned things. I said to myself, june, don't hold back.
Jason Mantzoukas
Like when they beating the shit out of Billy with baseball bats and so forth. She's laughing.
June Diane Raphael
Is there so hard. Yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas
That you are like, now what is her. Also. Also. Also. She and her friend are in a jeep with no doors and no top and they drive into a big cat sanctuary where they all get out of their cars. They're all like.
Paul Scheer
They drive into it. Like they don't like toss them over a fence. Like they go exactly into the plains.
Jason Mantzoukas
They don't dump them into a lion enclosure. They all drive like a mile into a wildlife big cat san where they all get out of their cars. They beat the shit out of him, they leave him behind. Then he gets eaten by a lion.
Paul Scheer
How many times have they done this? How? Because they do it with such ease and it feels like they all are on the same page. It wasn't like I got a plan.
June Diane Raphael
That's kind of the weird thing about this town is that the police are also not that impressed with what's going on. Not that surprised, honestly. And never even shocked. Never shocked even looking at those bodies in the morgue like all these young people in the prime of their lives dead, you know, and it does. It's like some. Something we've got. We've got Tammy and the T. Rex going on and that's a story. But trust and believe. Like some other major things are happening in this town.
Jason Mantzoukas
If you. This is a small town, okay? This, it's like Twin Peaks, basically, because everything seems like young people happy having parties, small town cops kind of eating while they investigate whatever crimes. And then something insane happens, right?
Paul Scheer
Yes.
Jason Mantzoukas
Because when they come upon the massacre at the party that the T. Rex has come, he's killed all of Billy's gang. He's killed. He's bitten the leg off the blonde girl that you love, June. He's trampled the car, squishing the guys underneath it.
Paul Scheer
Great death.
Jason Mantzoukas
Like, like great deaths, great gore, Great super fun. And these guys are like, come over here. You're not gonna believe this. They're poking things with a stick and being like that.
Paul Scheer
A nose one is itching his ass. Yeah, yeah, they're there. I mean, and I guess all this stuff goes to show you, like, every actor made a choice. And even though they weren't necessarily all on the same page, every choice was right. Like, there's very like, like, it's a weird way of saying it because I feel like there are performances that are so oddly grounded. Like, I think Denise Richards is. Makes this whole movie work. She never winks at the audience once. Like, her and her best friend, they're like down the middle, straight men to this entire thing. And it's wonderful. Like, I was like, wow.
June Diane Raphael
Well, she does do that one thing that drives me insane. And we talked about it last night, Paul. She kind of. Everything is kind of laughed through and she kind of laughs through all of her scenes. It's like always a laugh and it drives me bonkers. But she is going for. I mean, everybody in the movie is Paul Walker included. Like, they are all delivering.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yes, they are trying their hardest to be in 10 things I hate about you or she's all that or some sort of teen comedy. They seem to be giving it their all to be in a teen comedy. But the movie is like, jk, you're in an insane movie. So they have to keep rationalizing it or normalizing by their performances that insane things are happening. To your point exactly. When they have to go to the morgue to find a new body to put the brain in.
Paul Scheer
The.
Jason Mantzoukas
The, the, the. She's having so much fun, like looking at like it's as if they're body shopping.
Paul Scheer
Well, I was gonna say it's like. It's like a. It's like a dress up montage in an 80s comedy, but with dead bodies, like, in a morgue. And it's like. Wait, wait, what? Like, and then when you have to. Like when you.
Jason Mantzoukas
Should I win this? Or should I wear this? Or should I wear this?
June Diane Raphael
But there's something, like, so realistic about it because the bodies are never at the same height as the two of them. They're always like. They're always a little bit lower.
Paul Scheer
They're lugging them like they're. They're having trouble moving, like 90 pounds of dead flesh.
June Diane Raphael
I have to interrupt the show. I have to interrupt the show for a second. Yeah, I'm just sitting here watching us, and you were set up. And the way you look is so different from the way Jason and I look on screen.
Jason Mantzoukas
Right.
Paul Scheer
Okay.
June Diane Raphael
Okay.
Paul Scheer
So.
June Diane Raphael
So we're all just accepting that.
Jason Mantzoukas
Well, there's a reason for that.
June Diane Raphael
That is why does Paul look like he's at a studio somewhere?
Jason Mantzoukas
Paul has a. Paul is now using a better camera than you and I. Yeah.
Paul Scheer
Yeah. I mean, no. No big deal.
Jason Mantzoukas
He texted me beforehand and said, check this out. I'm gonna make you guys look like shit.
June Diane Raphael
Okay. And then I would have loved a heads up.
Jason Mantzoukas
June. June, do you not know that this is in place? All these. He has remote lights set up in your home.
June Diane Raphael
I feel a lot right now. The last time we did this show, he didn't have all that. The last time we did a live.
Paul Scheer
Show, all I'm gonna say to you, June, that's true.
June Diane Raphael
Like, Jason, you and I look like dog.
Jason Mantzoukas
We look like dog.
June Diane Raphael
We literally look like.
Jason Mantzoukas
You are so beautiful and I love.
June Diane Raphael
You, but we look like literal dog shit. You look horrible, and I do, too, dog.
Paul Scheer
Wow.
Jason Mantzoukas
Right?
Paul Scheer
Wow. Wow. You know what?
Jason Mantzoukas
We're going to have to talk about this offline because this is fine.
June Diane Raphael
Let's move on with the show. It's just like, we got to talk about it. This is crazy.
Jason Mantzoukas
See how we move forward. And if it's. If. If. If people want to send us cameras so that we can look better, they need to do so.
June Diane Raphael
I don't understand. I know where Paul is in our home, by the way. And it looks like you're in like a. Like a. Like a. A cool New York City, like, underground comedy club. Like, recording live from this.
Paul Scheer
Yeah, because my twitch shows and stuff like that. Like. But again, I can change the color of the lights. What do you want? You Know what? For you, for you, sweetheart. I'll give you whatever color you want. What do you want, sweetheart?
Jason Mantzoukas
I don't like. I don't like the way he's calling you sweetheart. I don't like.
Paul Scheer
Sweetheart, sweetheart. Tell me, sweetheart. Tell me what lights you like, babe. Yeah, I'll give you whatever color you want.
June Diane Raphael
No, you look great. I'm happy for you.
Paul Scheer
Let's talk about the opening of this movie because I don't want to get even too far away from this. Very rarely do you see a film where every character name is put in the beginning. Like, it was like the opening of Gilligan's island here in the beginning of this movie. Like, every character has a name. And did you guys both see the. The part where it says Tani? I mean, everyone. I don't know if everyone sees Tani, but yeah, it is boldly front and center. Tanny. Denise Richards is. What do you.
Jason Mantzoukas
What do you think that's about? Like, how does that make it through every. Every iteration of this movie getting really made, released, etc. How do they.
Paul Scheer
Apparently, according to the limited research that I have from Nick Kiley, who did an amazing job, that the person who did all the titling didn't watch the film and misheard Tammy as Tammy. But Tammy is a name. Tanny is not. If you were to be.
Jason Mantzoukas
Neither is. Neither is a name. You said at the beginning of the show Tawny. That is also. Although I guess Tawny Kitane was a person, so Tanya is maybe a name. Yeah, maybe Tani. I'm not sure. It's fun. It's a weird. It's weird that it made it through. It's. I can see a typo happening, but I guess maybe this is such a low budget thing. They were like, well, it's in there now. We can't kind of fit. We can't go back.
Paul Scheer
I mean, low budget. Jason, this is a $1 million movie. I mean, 1 million. It's not super low budget.
June Diane Raphael
Is there a world in which. Because it went by pretty quickly now, disclaimer. I did have an edible. The beginning of the movie. And so everything I say has to be sort of seen through that lens. But I thought, oh, maybe that font is just one of those fonts where the ends look like M's and you can't really.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, maybe.
Paul Scheer
No, no, no, no. It is. It is Tany. That is definitely Tani. As everyone in the discord. Everybody who tweeted at me has shown me, it is Tanny. It is a front and center. This movie is Tammy and the T. Rex, even though it's Tammy and the T. Rex and.
Jason Mantzoukas
Okay, wait a second. Can I ask you a question?
Paul Scheer
Yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas
Because I saw it when it was. When the typo was. Does the typo occur numerous times or just.
June Diane Raphael
No, just in the opening sequence.
Paul Scheer
No. Well, the typo is Tanny and the T. Rex. The movie as released is Tammy and the T Rex. At the opening title, when you see Denise Richards, it says Tani. And then in the final credits, it says Tani. Oh, okay.
Jason Mantzoukas
See, okay, that's what I missed. I only the. I only saw it once when it was Denise Richards as Tani or something. When it was something like that.
Paul Scheer
Yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas
I didn't realize that it said Tani and the T. Rex. Like, I didn't see the title.
Paul Scheer
Oh, yeah. The title card is Tanny. And I think there might be one that is a fixed version of it. But when Vinegar Syndrome restored the gore cut, they restored it to its epic beauty the way it was meant to be. So I think the PG13 version might be Tammy and the T Rex on the title.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, so you think they restore. They went back to.
Paul Scheer
Oh, they definitely did. No.
Jason Mantzoukas
Okay, I get it.
Paul Scheer
Yeah. So in 2000. Yeah. In 2017, a 35 millimeter print of an alternate pre censorship cut of the film was discovered under the title Tanny and the Teenage T Rex. And that is a version that has six minutes more of gore because they had to cut all of it out very clumsily to get a PG13 rating. Yeah. And it only appeared on VHS once in 1994. And so they at Vinegar Syndrome restored the film to a 4K resolution and. Yeah. And got it out there last year right before the pandemic.
Jason Mantzoukas
Thank God. Yeah, thank God we got this in 4k.
Paul Scheer
Um, this movie, by the way, I think it falls into a category of a gnome named Norm. Right.
June Diane Raphael
Theodore Rex, which is so much better than gnome named Norm 100%.
Paul Scheer
But I'm just talking about, like, the idea of, you know, weird creature, real world. Yeah, right. Totally agree. Mac and Me. And I was looking and I was like, this director, by the way, has directed two. How did this get made movies? He directed Mac and Me and Mannequin on the Move. He directed. Yeah. So this guy is. So.
Jason Mantzoukas
His specialty is one of the main characters is a puppet or something.
Paul Scheer
You know, an inanimate object come to life sometimes, like with a Mac and Me, that is an inanimate object that comes to life and then a mannequin is truly an inanimate object. That comes to life.
Jason Mantzoukas
I mean, we still haven't gotten to the bottom of where the butt starts.
Paul Scheer
I mean, we still.
Jason Mantzoukas
And this movie didn't help.
June Diane Raphael
No, we're even further away from understanding.
Jason Mantzoukas
That's the thing is the final episode of how did this get Made? Will solve the problem, will bring.
Paul Scheer
Dr. By the way, we did have somebody. We did have somebody in the chat solve one of our problems. This is someone talking about how dinosaurs could actually speak. So this is in 1976. Smith, I don't know who the Smith is, conducted groundbreaking research demonstrating that dinosaurs and humans have similar articulatory systems, assuming equivalence of cognition, and should express mirrored speech outputs. So that means that dinosaurs, if they had the means, could speak. But again, I would say that's useless information because this is not a dinosaur. This is a animatronic.
Jason Mantzoukas
When did. Okay, so remember we see the scene where they. As we were discussing earlier, they use household jigsaws and whatever to perform surgery and remove the living brain out of beautiful young Paul Walker. They hook it up to the dinosaur, the animatronic dinosaur, and they poke around to see if they can get it to move. And then the doctor says, tomorrow I'm going to put the brain in the. In the dinosaur, and it's going to be all set.
Paul Scheer
Can I just be for one second, Jason?
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah.
Paul Scheer
Because that scene really upset me. There's a couple of things that upset me in this movie.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah.
Paul Scheer
And when they made him get an erection and they started puppeteering his erection, I was like, it. There, like, there are things that really, like, got me on a. Like a humane level. And I know it's a movie, but I was like, oh, I just felt. It felt cruel to be giving this boy an erection.
Jason Mantzoukas
Like a Frank. A Frankenstein story is about corpses being brought back to life. Right. Like, they steal corpses. They're grave robbers, whatever. This is a living boy. This is a young man who they just wantonly. Like, they. They think he's. They first they think he's in a coma and then he wakes up. Repeatedly, they kill him by sawing his head off. Then. Then the two henchmen are eating pizza with his skull in between them and are tossing the crusts in his skull.
Paul Scheer
Like it's a bull. And his head. And I think that was the thing that got me. Like, the other side of his head looks so insane. And it looked. And then when you saw the dinosaurs, seeing they're putting pizza crust in my skull, it was like I felt for the dinosaur more in that moment. Than ever before. And that young doctor, was he a young doctor? He looked like he could have been 12 to me. The doctor.
June Diane Raphael
Oh, the other one.
Paul Scheer
Oh, yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas
Glasses. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
June Diane Raphael
There were some shots of him very like a small child.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah, he looked, he had like a Toby Jones vibe to me. Like, okay, you could have put him. You or something like that. You could have put him also like. He also reminded me of the Nazi who's hunting after the medallion in Indiana Jones.
Paul Scheer
Yes, yeah, he had that kind of like.
Jason Mantzoukas
He has that kind of a vibe. He's like the. He wants there to be. He wants the computer to be controlled by his computer program, not by this brain. This, this human brain is dumb. And that's why he's taunting. He taunts the dinosaur like, you fucking idiot.
Paul Scheer
And you're never.
Jason Mantzoukas
Idiot, fuck you.
Paul Scheer
And he never cleans the blood off him. He is soaked and caked in blood and he's like, never wipes his face. Eaten pizza covered in blood. Staples his back on. Oh God.
Jason Mantzoukas
The other thing that drives me crazy is during the entirety of the surgery, all of it, the sign into the head, the blood is everywhere. It's very gory. Blood is everywhere. He's installing the thing. The doctor, the mad scientist doctor has a mask, as we all know now we understand, we wear masks and surgeons wear masks, blah, blah, blah. But the mask is. He's doing the thing where he has the mask only on his chin the whole time. It's pulled down so that it's not covering his mouth at all, it's just he's wearing. Why have him wear a mask at all then if it's only on his face?
June Diane Raphael
I've asked this question, of many people I've seen through this pandemic, why wear a mask at all? What's the point?
Jason Mantzoukas
Yes, you would think that he would.
Paul Scheer
Have some self preservation there, simply not to get the blood in his mouth. That seems to be the big thing. Can.
June Diane Raphael
I want to ask a question, Paul, and I hope this is a safe space to do so, but there was one moment in the movie where those two kind of lecherous cops were watching Denise Richards walk away and they said they're trying to figure out where Michael the T. Rex is. And one of them says, I know she's been with him. And the other one says, how do you know? And he says, I can tell by the way she's walking.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh yes, I wrote that down as well.
June Diane Raphael
I'm scared to know.
Jason Mantzoukas
Very intimating that she and the T. Rex had had sex. And what my question was, because they also wake up post coitally cuddling. My question was, have they been hooking up? Have Tammy and T. Rex been.
Paul Scheer
Well, then it goes back to the question of. And I had a question about this and I think it's all gonna tie together. When they are in the morgue and they are looking at the bodies.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah.
Paul Scheer
Her friend pulls down the sheets and she looks and she's like, ooh, not that one. But it seems like her friend is like, no, no, that's a good dick. And she's like, no, no, that's not a good dick. And I couldn't quite understand. Like, my thought is the friend is like, it's a big dick. And she's like, I don't. Like it's too big.
June Diane Raphael
No. Well, that's not what happened.
Paul Scheer
Okay. No.
June Diane Raphael
Byron's trying to move merch. He's trying to get a body.
Paul Scheer
Okay, okay.
Jason Mantzoukas
He doesn't work for the morgue.
June Diane Raphael
No, he's like, let's go. Like this one, that one. Listen, who cares?
Jason Mantzoukas
I got bodies. I gotta move these bodies. We gotta two. We got a two for one right now.
June Diane Raphael
Yes.
Paul Scheer
Let's go, let's go, let's go. He's even offering up women.
June Diane Raphael
He's like, what do you think? Absolutely. It's. He's a good looking guy. And then he pulls the sheet down. I didn't read that. As he was saying, like, looks great. I think he was just sort of showing her. And her reaction was it was too small a dick.
Paul Scheer
Okay.
Jason Mantzoukas
That's what I thought too, because that guy was also too short.
June Diane Raphael
How did she know how short he was?
Jason Mantzoukas
Because they, they bring him and hold him in front of the window and.
June Diane Raphael
They bring back out.
Jason Mantzoukas
I think so.
Paul Scheer
Yeah. He's one of the first.
Jason Mantzoukas
Maybe I'm.
June Diane Raphael
I don't know.
Jason Mantzoukas
Maybe I'm.
June Diane Raphael
Here's another question. Like, is the T. Rex male? The T. Rex.
Paul Scheer
Okay.
Jason Mantzoukas
Okay.
Paul Scheer
Well, the robot.
Jason Mantzoukas
Fascinating question because it's a robot. So did they build the robot to be anatomically correct?
Paul Scheer
Well, do dinosaurs or they have it a gender? I don't think that dinosaurs have. We know he has functioning hands, right?
Jason Mantzoukas
Did you just say dinosaurs don't have dicks?
Paul Scheer
Well, I was like. Well, I, I was just saying we're. I've really, I've seen Jurassic Park.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah, that's the T shirt. Dinosaurs don't have dicks.
Paul Scheer
I asked, I asked, dude. Because maybe it's like a. Maybe it's like an innie belly button that comes.
Jason Mantzoukas
I don't know, do dinosaurs dream of electric dicks?
June Diane Raphael
I mean, I'm sure.
Paul Scheer
I mean, can you both answer that? Dinosaurs have dicks. You guys can be confident.
Jason Mantzoukas
Actually, here's. I'm willing to say yes, dinosaurs have dicks. For the, for the, for. For procreation.
June Diane Raphael
Some dinosaurs have dicks.
Paul Scheer
So you're saying that, you're saying that Jurassic park is whitewashing dinosaur culture by not having, like, dicks out? Like, they're like, like, like Bruce Banner when he transforms into the Hulk.
Jason Mantzoukas
I don't know if they're whitewashing it because I think they're dick washing it. I think. I think those dicks are washed.
Paul Scheer
All right, here's what the chat is saying. The chat is saying at least the oldest dinosaurs most likely had penises of some form. Although the shape and size unknown. It does seem like dinosaurs mostly reproduced through mounting similar to animals today. But they were likely some exceptions due to defenses such as spikes or bony plates. That's what I'm saying. Like, let's get to the bottom of this thing. I don't know what they're doing. I don't know.
June Diane Raphael
Listen, I don't know either. I mean, they laid eggs, so I don't know.
Paul Scheer
Most birds don't have penises. And dinosaurs are basically birds. Male birds.
Jason Mantzoukas
Dinosaurs are not birds. Dinosaurs.
June Diane Raphael
Dinosaurs are birds, Jason.
Jason Mantzoukas
Some dinosaurs are, of course, but male birds.
June Diane Raphael
Not all dinosaurs.
Paul Scheer
Male birds and crocodiles have a penis that emerges from the clocla to deliver sperm. Dinosaur sex.
Jason Mantzoukas
I believe it's cloaca.
Paul Scheer
Cloaca. Got it. Dinosaur sex must have followed an insert tab A into slot B gain.
Jason Mantzoukas
This is like the shape. The shape of. What was the shape of water?
Paul Scheer
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas
Del Toro movie.
Paul Scheer
Okay, well, go back to what you said, June. I think what they're intimidating. Like what they're saying is what they're intimating the cops is that she is walking funny because she just had a night of hardcore with.
Jason Mantzoukas
With a. With the tyrannosaurus. With a 12 foot Tyrannosaurus. When? When?
June Diane Raphael
When, when Was she walking funny, though? Was she walking funny?
Jason Mantzoukas
I don't think so.
Paul Scheer
I don't think so. I feel like there are some lines that might have been improvised here. Look, there's no secret of this movie. They had two weeks to write the film, and the director is very open to saying that. We really just asked people in the day, is there anything better we can say or do in this movie? And people just came up with their own stuff. And that's what kind of made it in because basically, yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas
Why. Why not just have Paul Walker's character die?
Paul Scheer
Right?
Jason Mantzoukas
He dies and the. The mad scientist is like, I can keep him alive in some way, you know, so that it. It is a rescuing from death rather than maliciously killing him in order to get his brain. This is a teen, like, romp. Why not just have him be killed?
June Diane Raphael
And here's the weird thing, too. Like, here's another version of the movie I think I would have preferred. So Paul Walker is like a very kind of typical teenage jock, hormonal, horny, athletic, and then becomes a T. Rex. What? I wanted to see it like, he can stand up for himself. Listen, Billy's a maniac and an abusive, terrible person. Person. But Billy can not. Billy, sorry. Michael can hold his own and seems like a popular guy. And he. He also seems like he's getting Denise Richards. A better movie to me would have been making Michael a nerdy, kind of shy, you know, bookworm who then becomes a fucking T. Rex.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yes. Like, who gets beaten up instead of. Instead of being able to hold his own. With Billy, you know, they kind of. They're at a standoff when they have the. The nut grab. Instead of that, why not have Billy kick his ass? He gets, you know, down in the dirt. Like, he is thoroughly dismissed, but then his. He turns into the dinosaur and can get revenge, it seems like.
Paul Scheer
Right. Yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas
It doesn't make it, like, narratively. Narratively, this movie is needlessly complicated for the kind of movie it is.
Paul Scheer
But at the same time, I have no questions, like, at the same time.
June Diane Raphael
Oh, yeah, I agree. I agree. Listen, you know, the other. The other movie I would have liked to have seen out of this movie was a movie about Byron the friend and his dad.
Jason Mantzoukas
His dad?
Paul Scheer
Yes, his dad, the sheriff.
June Diane Raphael
I was like, I want to know what's gone on here.
Jason Mantzoukas
To your point earlier June, about when the cops say she's walking funny and the presumption that they had sex. When Byron shows up to the barn where they are, he comes in and he says, are you decent? Right? He says, are you decent in there? Which is again, something you say when you presume people might be naked in there from doing.
Paul Scheer
Yeah, well, I say that every time I go into a barn for just multiple purchases. Like, we know that that's where people, you know, like horses might be getting it on. Cows, pigs. So I always. I always knock and say, so when.
Jason Mantzoukas
So what. What would it take for a horse to be decent and. And. Or not decent?
Paul Scheer
That penis would be in or out, like it's an Innie or an Audi. Like they. They can choose.
Jason Mantzoukas
Penises are in or out. You gotta do a download on how penises work.
Paul Scheer
No, no, no, no. They, like, they shoot out. There's a thing that I had horses growing up. They.
June Diane Raphael
Let me tell you this. I saw our dog's penis the other day out, and I never want to see that again.
Paul Scheer
No, no, no.
June Diane Raphael
It was the first time I've seen it. And we can move on.
Paul Scheer
But I will say this. Talking about uncomfortable things. I turned to June last night and I said, I feel like this is the first time I've watched a movie and felt old. Because when I watched Denise Richards and Paul Walker kiss, it felt like too much for me. I was like, ooh, these are too young. I don't want to see. I shouldn't be looking at like 12 year olds kissing or 14 year olds or whatever.
Jason Mantzoukas
Well, that's. That's how I felt when she was doing the strip tease at the end.
Paul Scheer
Yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas
I was like the weird juxtaposition of the fact that she drives home, says, hey to her parents, everything's great, she goes upstairs, she turns on the camera, and then it's like she's doing a striptease for a brain in a bowl in her childhood bedroom. And I was like, now what the fuck is going on? This is absolutely wild. What? This. Like, again, the movie makes choices that are so bizarrely left field in what would normally be. Like, they would have. In the normal version of this movie, they would have found a body to put his head in. And at the end of his brain in. And at the end of the movie, she is now on a date with the new person that contains his brain. And they get to be together.
Paul Scheer
Yeah, well, I mean, and there's one. There's so many things I want to break down. I also want to just talk about the. The way that this boy, the boyfriend, runs the town. This boy and his friends just storm the, like, do a home invasion on Tammy's family.
June Diane Raphael
And they're like, scarier to me than like a group of teens running in.
Paul Scheer
Yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas
And. And the mom is like, should we call the police? And the dad is like, no, I can handle this. And like 30 members of a gang.
Paul Scheer
Sir, pile into their home like Marx Brothers night at the opera level. Like, like they're all. And. And by the way, there is a lot of delay because they all come running up the stairs. I'm like, were they having a hard time finding the bedroom? Because Paul Walker and her have a whole Dialogue scene before he leaves. And then Paul Walker is kind of dumb too, because he doesn't just like run out of there. He kind of is hanging. Like, it's almost like he's hanging out in the driveway. Like, you know, like he's. And then he, like. Then he gets caught. Of course he does too. Silly.
Jason Mantzoukas
It's gotta weigh really heavily on Denise Richards because she really. She tries to be like, you shouldn't. You shouldn't do. I'm dangerous. Billy's gonna be after you. And then it like comes true. Like she. It like he comes over and it leads to his death. The funeral. We haven't talked about the funeral. Also, the. The T. Rex moves around so freely during daylight hours and nobody ever sees it. They're in the suburban neighborhood. The T. Rex walks up to her window of her house, second floor window. She passes out. The T. Rex takes her and walks away with her. Nobody reports it. All the people at the funeral. And the T. Rex is. She keeps looking over and being like, well, there's the T. Rex. Nobody else sees it. It's almost like this movie is about a woman. A woman who in the morning of her boyfriend. She feels so guilty that she got this boy killed that she. She manifests an imaginary Drop Dead Fred style T. Rex who's gonna fix everything at the end of the movie if it was revealed that she did all the murdering herself, imagining herself to be the T. Rex. Like, I'm talking like a fight club reveal.
Paul Scheer
Yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas
It's revealed that she's been the T. Rex the whole time. That and she's just been getting vengeance on the people who killed Michael. Better movie.
Paul Scheer
Better movie. By the way, I also want to say that people in this town, something has happened to all of them. Because when Billy comes in and goes, a dinosaur, dinosaur. A dinosaur's jaw clamps onto either side of his head and his friends go, oh, he's just joking around. Wow. Wait, yeah. What? And then he's lifted out of fire. They.
Jason Mantzoukas
In a tent.
June Diane Raphael
You know what? I think a lot. I think a lot of people in this town, when they first see the dinosaur, assume that it's. I got the sense that people are used to seeing dinosaurs there as like attractions. Like they're used to seeing giant animal part displays.
Paul Scheer
Okay, okay.
Jason Mantzoukas
So.
June Diane Raphael
Because so many people just like see it and don't register right away that this is a dinosaur.
Jason Mantzoukas
They think it's like a. They think it's just like a Jew. Like a statue. Because it is. You know, I mean, by the way.
Paul Scheer
It Is like when we first see it and it's shot in this beauty shot. It is on a pedestal. And in the. In the theory of this movie, the pedestal would always be attached to the feet, because it's not.
June Diane Raphael
I had to somehow get it off, I guess.
Paul Scheer
But. Yeah, I guess. I don't know. I don't.
Jason Mantzoukas
I don't. I don't understand. I don't. There's so much I don't understand. But yet to you, to exactly your point, I was never confused, but I was always like, huh? Like, why can't. Why doesn't anybody else know? Like, shouldn't the. In other words, shouldn't the police. Because the police keep hearing reports of a dinosaur. Like, from the partygoers. You know, Byron tells his dad there was a dinosaur. Like, people are being told there's a dinosaur. Why isn't the police being flooded with phone calls from people who are like, I just saw a dinosaur walking down the street, abducted a girl out of her home. Like, there's a. There's a dinosaur. They seem to be. They spend so much time being like, come on with this dinosaur talk. This is nonsense.
Paul Scheer
By the way, they're finding bodies mutilated. Like, their bodies. Like, they're finding where.
June Diane Raphael
Right. That's what I'm saying. Even if they didn't know about a dinosaur, there still should be some level of panic about a serial killer. A wild animal. Like, something is creating havoc in this.
Jason Mantzoukas
Town, and the police are treating it so blase. Even if. Even. Let's. Let's go. Let's say all of this death and destruction was not being caused by a dinosaur, but was instead just being caused by an individual. And they still treated it this blase. I would be like, what's. What's happening? Even still, they're just cracking jokes, hanging out, you know? Yeah, I guess we look at, oh, come over here. We got to check this out. And poking it with a stick. Is that a. What is that? Is that his nose? It is like. Like, by the way, nuts.
Paul Scheer
I will say that. I mean, they are. Again, this town has seen a lot of stuff. We know that. Denise Richards. The sequel that I want to see is Denise Richards going from town to town, from morgue to morgue, when she says a ski team was killed. I got to go check out that body. Like, this is a town that is used to this kind of level of death.
June Diane Raphael
By the way, though, Paul, that's what's interesting about the ending of the movie is you get the sense that the. The next movie is about how. And. And this. I was honestly, like, fascinated by that nobody physically was good enough for her, so she was gonna force this dude to stay as a brain in a bowl until she rests his life because so selfish is so selfish. Because no one was good enough and no one looked good enough to her.
Paul Scheer
That is like, can you imagine?
Jason Mantzoukas
My question is. My question is. And this is, I think, for you, June, especially, like, is there a world in which Denise Richards is on episodes of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills or whatever, and her husband is a brain in a jar?
June Diane Raphael
Okay. Her husband is a brain in a jar. And I'm not.
Paul Scheer
I mean, it is. Yeah.
June Diane Raphael
I'm not saying that as her husband is a brain in a jar.
Paul Scheer
Her husband is up to some weird. Like, her husband. What is he? Like, he's got some weird. Like, he's into some weird body science.
June Diane Raphael
And he's, like, convinced the FBI is following him. And he does, like, this weird.
Paul Scheer
He's like a Dr. Frankenstein, right?
June Diane Raphael
Well, he's not a Dr. Frankenstein, but.
Jason Mantzoukas
He'S like, I didn't realize I opened up a real can of worms.
June Diane Raphael
You have. He's like a. Well, a wellness expert. Expert who's developed a technology where you get, like, some sort of electric waves. There's a machine that you hook up to. And he considers himself a real healer and is also convinced that because his technology is so good and cancer curing.
Paul Scheer
Yeah.
June Diane Raphael
That, like, Big Pharma and the powers that be are. Are following them. He talks about it on the show. So he, like, he has a Persona. I'm dead serious. Of someone who, like, was a brain in a bowl and was transferred to his body. But in that.
Jason Mantzoukas
So you think this is the body she chose?
Paul Scheer
I.
Jason Mantzoukas
We should fingerprint this guy. And he died skiing in the early 90s.
Paul Scheer
I'm going to say he's all about electrical. All about electrical impulses.
June Diane Raphael
He is. But you get the feeling, like, when that transfer happened that like. Like, Paul Walker was hooked up, but there was a moment where there wasn't any electricity. There's a moment where you just sort of have to transfer over and that some damage was caused.
Jason Mantzoukas
Okay.
Paul Scheer
All right.
Jason Mantzoukas
Okay, I can see that.
Paul Scheer
I want to say three words and just get your reactions to him. I'm good, right?
Jason Mantzoukas
Wait, what is it?
Paul Scheer
When that guy is having sex with the girl and he keeps on yelling, I'm good, right? I'm good, right? I'm good, right? I was like. That was one of the most shocking and disturbing. I was like, what is one of the best choices. One of the best lines.
Jason Mantzoukas
You know what it was a character.
Paul Scheer
Yes.
Jason Mantzoukas
It totally explains why he's such a bully because he's so insecure.
Paul Scheer
It was. It was the best piece of writing. That film should be nominated on that line alone. Like, it was.
Jason Mantzoukas
I'm good, right?
Paul Scheer
I'm good, right? It was so. I've never seen that in any movie. I've never. Like, it was so revealing. It was so honest. It was so crazy.
June Diane Raphael
It was a lot.
Jason Mantzoukas
The other scene that was very kind of emotionally revealing, much like that one was, was when the T. Rex watches his own funeral and cries tears down his T Rex face. Like. Like water leaking out down the rubber T. Rex face. How. Let me ask you this. It's an animatronic T. Rex.
Paul Scheer
Yeah. Where are the tears coming from?
Jason Mantzoukas
It does. Where is that? What liquid is that? Did they install tear ducts in the T. Rex? Like, how does that work? The T. Rex also laughs at jokes, looks at itself in a mirror, uses a handheld mirror to look at itself. Like when he. When he kills the. The little scientist and the pizza guy runs away and blah, blah, he picks up a mirror and looks at himself to be like, what am I? Like, what am I? I am a person.
June Diane Raphael
I'm curious.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yes.
June Diane Raphael
Let's check it out.
Jason Mantzoukas
He uses. Then he uses a payphone. It is the. The.
Paul Scheer
And then leaves the.
Jason Mantzoukas
He dusts Byron's shoulders off. Like, he has such easy, easy, manipulatable hand dexterity. Thank you. Is exactly what I was looking for. It's very strange.
Paul Scheer
Sorry, that's.
Jason Mantzoukas
I just noticed. I wrote a bunch of those things down.
Paul Scheer
I. I want to say this, and I want to get to the audience questions and I. I know we're. We're all over the place, but I want to say the. This. I love Terry Kaiser. Terry Kaiser is the main bad guy. Terry Kaiser is Bernie from Weekend at Bernie's? Yeah, he is. You know, he. No, not.
Jason Mantzoukas
Wait.
Paul Scheer
He's Dr. Gunther. That's Bernie from Weekend at Bernie's. Oh.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, the doctor, the mad scientist.
Paul Scheer
Doctor, the mad scientist.
Jason Mantzoukas
Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. Yeah.
Paul Scheer
June, are you taking that in?
June Diane Raphael
That's Bernie.
Paul Scheer
Yes. And I'm going to tell you this, okay? I'm going to go on the record right now and say something that I've never said publicly. Just means nothing.
June Diane Raphael
Scared. Consider performance.
Paul Scheer
That performance of Bernie is one of the most realized physical comedy performances of all time. Like, you don't think he's doing anything. The reason why we can. Bernie's is a success. Is because of Terry fucking Kaiser. That guy. Watch that movie. It is Charlie Chaplin level.
June Diane Raphael
I hear you, Paul.
Paul Scheer
You know what I'm saying? Like, he's a dead body for an entire movie. It is wild and wonderful. Terry Kaiser, and he brings an energy to this thing. But I was gonna ask you both, do you know what his plan was? Because I have it. I wanted to see if we could guess it.
June Diane Raphael
I'm curious what you thought, Jason. But there are. There was a moment where I was like, oh, I actually think I agree with what he's trying to do. Or I feel like it was more generous than I expected. So I think he's trying to sell and patent this procedure so that when people die, they can stay alive by getting their brains into other bodies. But. But the way he described it at one point, and I think it was watching the funeral, it seemed to be that he was actually trying to provide a service so people didn't have to lose loved ones or pets.
Jason Mantzoukas
And I was like, oh, I agree. I agree. That's what it seemed to me as well. He was doing. He was offering. This was a breakthrough in conquering death. Conquering death. We wouldn't. You know, I think you're right. At the funeral scene, he says, people won't have to do this anymore. We won't have to put people in the ground. People won't have to die. We can just transfer their consciousness, essentially. But what I couldn't figure out is why is he do. Why is he putting people's consciousness or brains or whatever into animatronic dinosaurs? Why not put it into a human body like another. Why not put it into. Why not put it into a. Another human body? Why. Why is it a.
June Diane Raphael
Or.
Jason Mantzoukas
Or a humanoid robot? Why is it a dinosaur?
Paul Scheer
It seems like getting an animatronic dinosaur would be the hardest thing to get. Like. Right.
Jason Mantzoukas
Why not. Why not Frankenstein this. Why not put it into a Frankenstein.
Paul Scheer
Or, like, get another. Yeah, and I guess the idea is ultimately because this director was given an opportunity to rent an animatronic dinosaur for two weeks before it had to go to Thailand to be in an amusement park. So that's probably the reason why that.
Jason Mantzoukas
Did they reverse engineer the movie from that?
Paul Scheer
Oh, yeah, Jason, they did. This is this whole movie. All right, so writer director Stuart Rafel said in an interview, the idea for this film only happened because they had access to a full size T Rex animatronic. A guy came to him who owned theaters in South America and said he had a T Rex that was going to a park in Texas. The eyes worked, the arms moved, the head moved. And Stuart said, I want to make a movie. And they go, well, what's the story? And he's like, I don't know, but we need to start filming it in two weeks, so let's go. And they wrote a story and they started shooting it in two weeks. And. And that was how they got this movie up and running was just basically like, use this before it goes to Texas.
Jason Mantzoukas
Well, then here's. Okay, then I have to. I have an update then. Well done. Yeah, like, if that's totally. If that's the case, then this is, hats off, way better than it has any business being.
Paul Scheer
By the way, the dinosaur even looks good in certain moments. Like, there's moments.
June Diane Raphael
I mean, listen, if I know there's a T. Rex, I want to see it, like, running, and I want to see it being more of a T. Rex. And, you know, there were limitations.
Paul Scheer
The gut rips were pretty great. We never saw that in Jurassic Park. People just getting their. Their guts. I love that. I love.
Jason Mantzoukas
I love that shot where he tears the guy and then it frames down and he's holding his guts and intestines.
Paul Scheer
Yeah, I love.
Jason Mantzoukas
Loved that. That stuff was funny. Like, they played it for good.
Paul Scheer
This movie is funny.
Jason Mantzoukas
They played it for good. Here's what I'll say. The. The movie is. I. I think. And correct me if you guys think differently.
Paul Scheer
Yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas
I felt like the movie understood its campiness, you know, and understood that they were. And. And in a way, that actually benefited the movie. This was. I. If I'm not being clear, this was a wildly enjoyable watch. You know what I mean? Like, I really enjoyed it.
Paul Scheer
I. But I think what I really appreciate and I. To like velocipaster is the directing of it. Here's another kind of my big, bold statement. The directing of it was actually really, like, capable because by keeping, like, Denise Richards grounded, it actually, like, she's not, like, winking at the. Like, a lot of people are not winking at the audience. They may be doing bold, big performances, but, like, people are buying into these, like, weird giant characters, and it kind of works. Like, I don't know what it is about it.
Jason Mantzoukas
Like, well, when shows up, when Billy shows up to Denise Richards house, Tammy's house, the scene we talked about earlier with, like. And they do a home invasion. The parents look out the window and are like, oh, it's Billy again. And it's like, okay, that works in a movie in which you're the parents of A teenage daughter whose ex boyfriend is kind of hassling her. Right, right. But what then happens is they are the victims of a 30 person home invasion. And that's where this movie is like, wait a second, what? Because they should be like, oh no, something insane is happening. But they're treating it as if it is the regular movie version of oh, Billy is, you know, is an asshole. I got to say, instead of Billy is an insane character.
Paul Scheer
He says on the phone, and June pointed this out to me, he's in a gang. A gang. Like they, like, they're like they, they underscore like he's in a gang gang. Like, like this is a real gang. He went to prison. But there is something really interesting about this guy Billy. The guy who plays Billy. I listened to an interview with him and he was like, yeah. I looked through the script and I was like, this is great. It's a big lead part. And I was excited to be there and went on like when he talks about the movie, there was no like sense of yeah, it was a big campy, dumb movie. It was sort of like, yeah, this is great, awesome. Like a lead role. Got some great moments in here. Got to work with great actors. And like he talks about like most.
June Diane Raphael
People working on anything are excited and are assume that it's going to be good.
Paul Scheer
I'm talking about this interview happened like a year ago.
June Diane Raphael
Okay, okay.
Paul Scheer
I'm not saying that like he's. I'm just saying that like there is a sense where. I guess what I'm thinking of is I think the director knew it was campy, but I don't know if the actors quite understood because I don't even know how much they were on set with the actual T Rex. Right. So they may have been like, I'm in a high school movie. And then they're shooting all these T Rex scenes. So you know what I'm saying? So I think there was a weird way like of keeping people separate. So you created this energy that you got like a 10 things I hate about you with a gnome named Gnorm.
Jason Mantzoukas
I mean it is this, this was, this was a bizarre movie because I think you're right. Scene to scene, it is tonal. Even though there is a common tone throughout and it is campy scene to scene. You're right. Some scenes just feel like, hey, we're now having a scene that's just high school party. Uh oh, the bad guys showed up. Okay, cool. Now though, there's a dinosaur that's gonna squash people, bite people's heads off and kill everybody. But it's totally still a party. You know, like, people can still be like, wait, what's going on? Ah, he's being silly. But then there's like, then there's like a T. Rex head comes in and is like, chomp, chomp, chomp.
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Jason Mantzoukas
You know what I would love right now?
Paul Scheer
What?
Jason Mantzoukas
I would love you guys to switch spots.
Paul Scheer
We could definitely do that.
June Diane Raphael
See in a few.
Paul Scheer
All right, hold on.
June Diane Raphael
I do want to see how I look in that light.
Jason Mantzoukas
Okay, guys, it's happening. This is happening. We're gonna see exactly what's going on and we're gonna get to the bottom of this. And next time we do one of these. Everybody's got the lights. Oh, wow. Full Screen. Huh? Look at me. This is the. Oh, wow.
June Diane Raphael
Oh, my God.
Jason Mantzoukas
I mean, June. Gorgeous. June, you look.
June Diane Raphael
I can't even hear you yet. I've never looked better.
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, my God.
Paul Scheer
This is.
Jason Mantzoukas
This is.
June Diane Raphael
I've literally. I'm stunned by myself. I'll say it. I really am. I took my own breath away.
Jason Mantzoukas
I mean, look at yourself. Look at this.
June Diane Raphael
I haven't even. It's hard to even look at it straight on because it's so.
Paul Scheer
Can you see? I lined up my eyeline there so you can kind of look.
Jason Mantzoukas
I just saw in the chat, June, that the screen grab of this now is going to be next month's Vogue cover.
Paul Scheer
Wow.
June Diane Raphael
It should be.
Paul Scheer
I've done. Since I've been doing my Twitch channel. I've been on Vogue, the COVID of Vogue three times from this. Yeah.
June Diane Raphael
Just cannot believe you've been hiding this lighting from me.
Jason Mantzoukas
Wow. Wow.
June Diane Raphael
Wow. Yeah. I mean, I want to ask you, Paul, how does it feel where you're sitting now?
Paul Scheer
Great. I was like, you know, honestly, if I had a partner who set up this situation for me, the computer, the.
June Diane Raphael
Lights, I actually, like, I do want to say Paul does a lot for me in that area and I do appreciate it. I just didn't know. And I've always appreciated it. I didn't know you were doing this for yourself, though. So, hey, I hope you understand now I have.
Paul Scheer
I gotta take care. I gotta take care. Number one.
June Diane Raphael
Number one. Number one.
Paul Scheer
So obviously we have opinions about this movie. There's a lot to talk about here. But there are people out there with a different opinion. It is now time for second opinions and enjoy this listener submitted Second Opinion song. Take a look. Second Opinion's quote from Amazon. Tammy and the T. Rex was a.
Jason Mantzoukas
Total bomb, but some people thought it was good and those people made their opinions understood.
Paul Scheer
Yeah, great, great work. Great brief, good backdrop, Nice talent.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah, it was very short, succinct, to the point. Well done.
Paul Scheer
Here's what I'll say about that guy. Who was that? I'll tell you in a second. His name is Modern. Moderner is what we got. And I will say this. If I was looking for a body to put my brain in, I would put it in monitor from the Discord. So thank you.
June Diane Raphael
Actually, I'll say this to both of you. I would. If I had to choose, you would both be people I might put my brain in.
Paul Scheer
Wow.
Jason Mantzoukas
What a compliment.
June Diane Raphael
I thought you'd like to hear that. Yeah.
Paul Scheer
That's really nice. Thank you for sharing that, June. So these are Five star reviews, cold from Amazon.
Jason Mantzoukas
Sorry, Paul, if you don't mind, can I just examine that for a moment? Let's say, for example, June, you and I were in a terrible accident, right? You did not survive. But I did.
June Diane Raphael
Knock on wood.
Jason Mantzoukas
You did not survive. But I did. But I'm brain dead, so they put your brain into my body. Are Paul and I now married?
June Diane Raphael
Well, I don't know. I asked Paul, would you still love me if I was in this body?
Paul Scheer
The secret. This is the secret all over again. The David Duchov movie that you were not a part of.
Jason Mantzoukas
That's right. We did this movie.
Paul Scheer
We did this movie. We did this movie.
Jason Mantzoukas
And June, I don't think you were there.
June Diane Raphael
No, she wasn't what the movie was about.
Paul Scheer
And we played the scene for you. Yeah, yeah. So. So you would say that either way, Jason would have to be dating me or I'd have to be dating Jason so one of us would be together. I honestly think that you probably pull it off with June, right?
Jason Mantzoukas
You would be with June.
June Diane Raphael
You're saying you wouldn't still love me if brain injured.
Paul Scheer
What I just said was, I think we could pull it off. That was my answer. I think we could pull it off.
June Diane Raphael
Well, that's not strong enough.
Paul Scheer
That's huge.
Jason Mantzoukas
Me saying, I think it's gonna work. I think it's gonna work. I'm gonna give you guys a minute.
Paul Scheer
Babe, what's going on? I had your back there. I don't know why you don't embarrass me from the live stream.
June Diane Raphael
Listen, just come in quickly with a strong answer. Yes, of course I would still love you if your brain was in Jason's body. It's really quite simple.
Paul Scheer
We had a technical issue there. You had a question, June?
June Diane Raphael
No, I was just saying, would you still love me if my brain was in Jason's body?
Paul Scheer
Absolutely, June, I would still love you. I would still love you no matter where your brain was. Because that's what I do love about you, your brain. And even though you look absolutely gorgeous.
June Diane Raphael
You certainly like me. Like, all you care about is my brain.
Paul Scheer
Wow. Wow. And now I remember in the previous show when I lit you pretty well, you got. You got really mad at me. You got really mad at me about that lighting. And then when the lights went off, you actually said, oh, actually, that was good lighting. I was like, you know what? It's pretty good lighting. It's pretty good lighting. And I did turn off the. Above the headlights for you, but you turn them back on so that's on you. Anyway, Jason. So these are five star reviews. Cold from Amazon.com 4.5 out of five stars. There are 216 total reviews. 71% are five star reviews. 2% are one star. Let's have Jason and June on the screen so they can react to these as well. This one is from Amber Kennedy. And Amber Kennedy writes, I love this movie more than most of my family members. Five stars. Which I thought was like an interesting way of, of couching it. Like you gotta have the right audience here. This is not gonna be for the whole family.
June Diane Raphael
Oh, I thought she was saying, I love them. I love the movie more than I love my family members.
Paul Scheer
No, no, I love this movie more than most of my family members. Oh, I see what you. Oh, wait, maybe. Maybe you're right.
Jason Mantzoukas
I think that is what that is.
June Diane Raphael
More than my most.
Jason Mantzoukas
I think this reviewer is saying, I would. I would choose. Yeah, I've given this movie and allow my family to die.
Paul Scheer
By the way, Amber Kennedy, I hope you don't get that wish. But I appreciate the sentiment. That is probably one of the best 5 star reviews we've gotten. I'm sorry I misinterpreted it. This is from just a random Amazon customer. The title is best movie I've ever seen. And it is this simply the review Jurassic park wants. What? This movie has five stars.
Jason Mantzoukas
Which is what? Which is what?
Paul Scheer
Romance. There's no romance in Jurassic Park.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah, that's the other thing I wanted to mention is they do the thing that Jurassic park does too, which is that they have the T. Rex's footsteps. Cause like earthquakey kind of thing. So wouldn't everybody in town be like, there's an earthquake. You know, that was the other thing. Like everybody kept being like, anyway, go on, look.
Paul Scheer
They roll up a body in this movie. They roll up a body like a fruit.
Jason Mantzoukas
Roll up a body. They roll up that flattened body. I laughed so hard when they rolled up. They kept calling him by his name. He's that jacked guy. He's like, oh, Ron. Oh, by the way, roll him up like a newspaper. They're going to deliver.
Paul Scheer
I got to talk about Ron for a second. So Ron is this guy who is this whole crew, the whole scientist crew is wild. And this guy is like basically like a bodybuilder. He's like in a crop top or tank tea or whatever he's in. It's like more chest than anything. And Terry Kaiser was also in another movie that we did, Mannequin 2 on the move, which directed by the same guy. And he. And he also has henchmen in the same crop top. You can see it here. Like, so that's for Mannequin two on the move. And this is from. Totally from this. So he basically. I don't know if it's a Terry Kaiser choice or a director's choice. I love this choice. I love it. I love that his henchmen always wants bodybuilder, like, thugs with him at all times. Really, really solid. And then this final review is from Justin Palmer. And Justin Palmer writes this. Saw this movie when I was really young, but always thought I dreamt it up. Men's crop tops and T. Rexes have haunted me since I was a child. Very excited to tell my therapist it's a real movie and not something I imagined. Five stars. The title, reassuring. And this is kind of the same thing that we found with the peanut butter solution, which is people are traumatized when. If you see this at an early age, you know, this could get into your psyche in a weird, bad way.
Jason Mantzoukas
It also seems to be. Because I. I'll be honest. I had never before it came up on our radar.
Paul Scheer
Yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas
You know what I mean? When it seemed like something we would do. I had never heard of this movie.
Paul Scheer
No.
Jason Mantzoukas
You know, I wasn't. I wasn't aware of this movie, even though it has people in it that we know. It's not like. Like, there are movies we've done that I've never heard of because they really were.
Paul Scheer
Yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas
You know, under the radar type of movies. But this has, like, this has people in it. This has. This is about. You know, this is the same time period as Jurassic park, and it has dinosaur. I'd never heard of this.
Paul Scheer
It is a wild film that. By the way, thanks to Vinegar syndrome for restoring it to its. Its true vision. I mean, they really. This. They. Snyder cut. They made a Snyder cut of this movie, by the way. I'm gonna say this.
June Diane Raphael
What happened to me when I went into this lighting?
Paul Scheer
Well, and in the chat right now, the chat is calling your look, June. Jumanescent. That is a word they have invented. I will ask one final question before we wrap it up here and say this. How did Paul Walker's body decompose to be full of maggots and rats within 12 hours?
Jason Mantzoukas
So quick. He was so, like, undone.
June Diane Raphael
12 hours.
Jason Mantzoukas
I mean, because, I mean, it's maybe max. It's 48 hours max.
June Diane Raphael
You know, I think twice pretty quickly. That quickly seemed really quick.
Jason Mantzoukas
Wait, June, why do you know this?
Paul Scheer
All right, I'M gonna. I. I should. I get. No, I'm not gonna get dark. No, I know.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah.
Paul Scheer
You knows where I'm gonna go.
Jason Mantzoukas
There's no. I think, I think the reason.
Paul Scheer
I think close the situation. You have time.
Jason Mantzoukas
I think they wanted to have the gory thing. I think they wanted to have maggots and rats and. And for her Denise Richards to be, like, scared and whatever.
Paul Scheer
Let me. Let me tell you this. This. This is how the movie should have been. We got to put his brain back in his body and then they do it. But then he comes back and he's all up like that. They did not. They didn't like. Okay, it. Like, there was some.
Jason Mantzoukas
Now he's got, like, a zombie body. Yeah. Yeah. Great.
Paul Scheer
You know, by the way, that was a great impression with that lighting. It really works. That joke wouldn't have worked on my beautiful lighting there, because it could never look like a zombie there. And again, you heard my T. Rex impression. Now you've seen my zombie impression. This is a bit big, big show for me. I appreciate everyone coming out tonight. This has been so great to do these live shows. We love doing them. Hopefully we'll be able to do this live around the country once again. But in the meantime, we may come back and do another one of these if. If you want that. And, but more importantly, you can find us in different places all over right now. Jason Jun, you want to tell anybody where they can find you?
June Diane Raphael
Okay, so, yes. So Jessica Sinclair and I have our own podcast coming out called the deep dive on April 28th. So please subscribe. I'm really excited about it. It's gonna be wonderful and insane. And the Jane Club is hosting a summer summit called Lift As We Rise. And it's a weekend retreat. It's going to be so special. And tickets right now are $25. If you head to janeclub.com and go onto click on Summer Summit, you can buy tickets and do it right away because the prices are about to go up. And that's all I got.
Paul Scheer
Paul, I'm going to say that I've seen so many people that experienced that weekend retreat, and it seems absolutely amazing. And if I didn't have to be the parent on call during those weekends, I would be there 100% because you run. It's absolutely inspirational and really, really cool. I got to hear a lot and actually hear everybody talk about how transformation, transformative it was. So definitely check that out.
June Diane Raphael
I mean, Paul isn't listening in on the sessions. No people are sharing, and no no, I'm not like.
Paul Scheer
No, I'm just.
June Diane Raphael
I just am hearing about that. Yeah.
Paul Scheer
That I'm hearing.
June Diane Raphael
I'm hearing about intimate, authentic, and vulnerable conversations.
Paul Scheer
Yeah, I'm not a part of that. I'm just saying I've heard. I'm not. I'm not outside of the door with the children with a cup up trying to hear it all. Jason, what do you got?
Jason Mantzoukas
I am the voice of Rex Splode in the Amazon animated show Invincible, which is an adaptation of the Robert Kirkman comic series Invincible. That is fantastic. It's up now. Season one is running now on Amazon. It is an animated superhero show that is gory and brutal and incredibly fun and funny, but really is. It is a superhero show for adults, so I can't recommend it enough. It's a fucking blast, and it's really, really great.
Paul Scheer
I absolutely love it. Robert Kirkman, who created the Walking Dead and also created Invincible, the comic book series, it is like, if you. For lack of a better term, it is like Walking Dead meets the boys in many respects. And then also not like that at all, too. It's just great.
Jason Mantzoukas
It's a great superhero story. It's great superhero storytelling, but it's also all about what it is to be a human being inside of because the consequences of their actions they have to deal with throughout the series, and that's what's different as opposed to other superhero shows. And then I will also, just because it's Kirkman, I'll recommend his comic right now. Firepower is coming out right now in issues drawn by the Incredible. One of my favorite artists, artists, Chris Somni. So I recommend picking that up just as a comic recommendation, 100%. And as I've said a couple of times before, Yasmine Williams, Urban Driftwood album of the year so far.
Paul Scheer
Love that. I will talk to people about the.
Jason Mantzoukas
Cassandra Jenkins record and the Cassandra Jenkins record.
Paul Scheer
I will quickly just mention that I have jumped into streaming. I have a Twitch channel, which is called Friendzone, so go to Twitch tv, Friendzone, and you can see a whole range of stuff. Rob Huebel and I host the show on Thursday nights. David Wayne does a piano bar on some nights. Courtney McBroom is gonna be doing a cooking show. Adam Pally and I punch up your tweets. We actually wrote an Academy Award monologue the other night. Julian Velard and I do a show where we make a song of your life. There's a bunch of fun shows. We do a focus group with, like, real comedians. Jason and I have gone on there to do like some live choir chats and there's unspooled live and we also have Screen Test, which is a game show on there. So we have a bunch of fun stuff all free, all on Twitch. You don't need to do anything different. It's just like YouTube, just Twitch TV, Friendzone and check out all the good stuff there. Watch all the recaps on my YouTube and I will also plug that. Coming back. May 23rd, Black Monday, season three is beginning and catch up on season one and two before season three starts. And this season has been. We're shooting it right now and it's so much fun and such good stuff. I can't even really tell you what it's about yet, but it will be great. May 23, I think that's when it starts roughly. Check it out in that zone. I want to give a huge shout out to Cody, our super producer for putting this together. I want to give a big shout out to Molly who even though she slammed me about the lighting, I still think is an incredible vip. Averil Halley, one of our producers who picks all of our films. She does an amazing job of cutting our clips and cutting all these really great stuff. Nate Kiley does all of our research. Nate, you're a champion, a true, true champ. And I also want to give a shout out and some love to the ghost of Craig T. Nelson and Kyle Waldron who do some of our amazing art that you find on all of our social media pages. July Diaz, who listens through the whole show and the person who is always making sure that this show sounds perfect. Devin Bryant, our audio engineer. And I want to give a final shout out to everybody here at On Location Live. What a crack staff Kayla has been on our video clips and everything today. She's been absolutely amazing. So thank you, Kayla for all that hard work and thank you to all of you for being here and spending your Friday night with us and we hope to do it again.
June Diane Raphael
One other thing, one other thing. I hope everybody's getting their vaccination shots if they're available. And yeah, just a special shout out to all the people been quarantining alone and playing by the rules and hanging in there and. And just encouragement to get those shots and get on the other side of all this.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yeah, here's what I'll say. The sooner everybody gets their shots and it is safe to be inside theaters doing this live.
June Diane Raphael
Oh my God, I can't wait.
Jason Mantzoukas
The sooner we will be in your town and you can be in the theater with us.
Paul Scheer
Yes.
Jason Mantzoukas
Yes, that's happening.
Paul Scheer
I cannot wait to get back on the road.
June Diane Raphael
Yes.
Jason Mantzoukas
It only happens if we get there. Herd immunity, vaccinations, please.
Paul Scheer
Please. Look, there's nothing more like, important than all of us being in a movie theater in June to see the new Fast and Furious movie. And that should be the motivating factor for all of you right now to see these magnets.
Jason Mantzoukas
I don't want to be. I don't want to be standing. I don't want to be sitting on a stage. Stage with thousands of you balcony monsters just spitting your droplets at.
Paul Scheer
No way.
Jason Mantzoukas
I don't want it.
Paul Scheer
I'm wearing a mask in the balcony. I'm wearing. I'm making this thing now. I'm wearing a mask in the. Maybe even a hat.
June Diane Raphael
You should have always been wearing a mask in the balcony, to be honest.
Jason Mantzoukas
Let's be honest. I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure the balcony is a wet market.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah. Oh, absolutely. The balcony was a collective location zero.
Jason Mantzoukas
Because, I'll be honest, most balconies. Yeah, most balconies have bats.
Paul Scheer
I mean, I will say that, by the way, this is such a. It didn't come out in the news, but a lot of people do think that this may have started in our Seattle show where we released the visitor episode.
June Diane Raphael
I would not doubt it.
Paul Scheer
So we are. We apologize for that. By the way, if you heard the visitor episode, you can see some of the rowdiness of that balcony. It's what all balcony monsters aspire to. And by the way, because we're here and we're just chatting, visit our Discord. Discord gg hdtgm. And if you want something that's a little bit more maybe a little different, there's Discord GGPulshear, which also has an equally amazing community. Great moderators in both, amazing people in both, and also very different people in both. So find your flavor and stick with. But I love our Discord so, so much. And I love how much they are supporting the show and all here tonight. So thank you. Our Discord mods on both sides.
Jason Mantzoukas
And that was a. And. And I feel like we are, you know, we're close to being able to do live shows again. And I want to be able to get those babies.
Paul Scheer
Yeah, babies.
Jason Mantzoukas
It's been too long since I've held a stranger's baby.
June Diane Raphael
Yeah. And. And there are going to be a lot of, like, pandemic babies, you know?
Jason Mantzoukas
Oh, yeah. I want to hold all the pandemic.
Paul Scheer
Wait, June. What?
June Diane Raphael
What What?
Paul Scheer
Are you trying to tell me something?
June Diane Raphael
No, I'm just saying that, like, a lot of people have been.
Paul Scheer
Tell me the truth, June. Jason's not here. Are you pregnant? Are you pregnant right now? Oh, my God. Bring Jason back in.
June Diane Raphael
I don't want you to be upset about it. It's not the reaction I wanted. Hey, Jace.
Jason Mantzoukas
Hey. What's going on? What did I miss? I was pooping.
June Diane Raphael
Oh, yeah, no, everything's fine.
Paul Scheer
Everybody, thank you so much. We appreciate you so, so much.
Jason Mantzoukas
Much.
Paul Scheer
Good night. Thank you, Jason. Thank you, June. Thank you, Denise Richards. Thank you, T. Rexes. Thank you, Terry Kaiser. Thank you, Paul Walker. See you next time. We did it. Bye.
Jason Mantzoukas
Bye.
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June Diane Raphael
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Katie Nolan
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Podcast Summary: How Did This Get Made? - Episode: Tammy And The T-Rex (HDTGM Matinee)
Release Date: February 11, 2025
Hosts: Paul Scheer, June Diane Raphael, Jason Mantzoukas
Episode Duration: Approximately 104 minutes
In this special Matinee episode of How Did This Get Made?, hosts Paul Scheer, June Diane Raphael, and Jason Mantzoukas delve deep into the perplexing and campy spectacle that is Tammy and the T-Rex. Celebrating its status as one of the "best of the worst" films, the trio dissects every facet of this bizarre cinematic endeavor, providing both humor and insightful critique.
Tammy and the T-Rex is an unconventional blend of teenage romance, mad science, and prehistoric revenge. The plot revolves around Denise Richards' character, Tammy, who finds herself entangled in a love triangle with Paul Walker's character. Her old boyfriend, unable to let go, orchestrates a gruesome plan: he takes Tammy's new boyfriend to an animal park, where a lion mauls him. A mad scientist then transplants the boyfriend's brain into an animatronic T-Rex, setting the stage for a tumultuous love story filled with vengeance and chaos.
Notable Quote:
Paul Scheer [02:04]: "Denise Richards is in love with Paul Walker, but yet her old boyfriend won't let her go. So he does what any old scorned boyfriend does."
The hosts express their fascination with the film's blatant self-awareness of its own absurdity. They highlight how Tammy and the T-Rex fully embraces its campy elements, creating a unique space where over-the-top scenarios and questionable plot choices coexist seamlessly.
Notable Quote:
Jason Mantzoukas [12:22]: "I couldn't be happier to be here with you both to talk about a truly insane movie."
Tammy (Denise Richards): Portrayed as the heart of the film, Tammy's character navigates the chaos with a blend of innocence and resilience. However, the hosts critique her performances, noting moments where her grounded demeanor clashes with the film's outlandish plot.
Mad Scientist (Terry Kaiser): Compared to iconic characters like Frankenstein's monster and Bernie from Weekend at Bernie's, the mad scientist serves as the primary antagonist whose peculiar motivations drive much of the film's conflict.
Paul Walker's Character: Initially presented as a typical teenage jock, his transformation into a T-Rex raises questions about character development and narrative consistency.
Notable Quote:
June Diane Raphael [33:20]: "I love how Denise Richards never winks at the audience once. It makes the whole movie work."
The film's special effects, particularly the animatronic T-Rex, are a focal point of discussion. The hosts commend certain aspects, such as the T-Rex's movements and the gore effects, while questioning the logical consistency of an animatronic dinosaur possessing human consciousness.
Notable Quote:
Jason Mantzoukas [74:59]: "This was a wildly enjoyable watch. I really enjoyed it."
Directed by Stuart Rafel, the film was reportedly born out of a sudden inspiration to utilize a rented T-Rex animatronic. This origin story underscores the film's spontaneous and perhaps rushed production, contributing to its disjointed yet entertaining nature.
Notable Quote:
Paul Scheer [73:47]: "The director knew it was campy, but I don't know if the actors quite understood because I don't even know how much they were on set with the actual T-Rex."
The hosts analyze the performances, particularly Denise Richards' portrayal of Tammy, which balances sincerity amidst the film's chaos. They also discuss Paul Scheer's admiration for Terry Kaiser's physical comedy, likening his performance to Charlie Chaplin's legendary acts.
Notable Quote:
Paul Scheer [70:52]: "That performance of Bernie is one of the most realized physical comedy performances of all time."
A significant portion of the discussion revolves around the film's numerous plot holes and logical inconsistencies. The transformation process of transferring a human brain into a T-Rex, the rapid decomposition of bodies, and the townspeople's blasé reactions to extraordinary events are scrutinized for their lack of plausibility.
Notable Quote:
June Diane Raphael [50:43]: "Have you ever seen this in a movie? It's very revealing. It was so honest. It was so crazy."
The episode is rife with humor, as the hosts poke fun at the film's over-the-top scenarios and questionable decisions. They employ meta-commentary to highlight the film's self-awareness and embrace of its own absurdity, making for an engaging and entertaining analysis.
Notable Quote:
Jason Mantzoukas [75:23]: "I felt like the movie understood its campiness, and that actually benefited the movie. It was a wildly enjoyable watch."
The hosts touch upon fan reactions and reviews, noting that while the film is widely panned, it has garnered a cult following for its sheer audacity and entertainment value. Listener-submitted reviews from Amazon highlight a mix of genuine appreciation and bewildered amusement.
Notable Quote:
Paul Scheer [85:52]: "I've never seen that in any movie. I've never. Like, it was so revealing. It was so honest. It was so crazy."
In wrapping up the episode, the hosts acknowledge the film's many flaws yet celebrate its unique place in the realm of "so-bad-it's-good" movies. They commend Tammy and the T-Rex for its fearless approach to storytelling and its ability to entertain despite, or perhaps because of, its numerous shortcomings.
Notable Quote:
Jason Mantzoukas [75:23]: "I felt like the movie understood its campiness, and that actually benefited the movie. This was a wildly enjoyable watch. I really enjoyed it."
The episode concludes with the hosts expressing gratitude to their audience and teasing future discussions. They emphasize the joy of exploring and celebrating the most bewildering films, ensuring listeners that How Did This Get Made? will continue to spotlight cinematic oddities with humor and enthusiasm.
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