The Arrival LIVE!

Summary

Podcast Summary: How Did This Get Made? – "The Arrival LIVE!"

Release Date: May 16, 2025

Hosts: Paul Scheer, June Diane Raphael, Jason Mantzoukas

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Introduction to "The Arrival"

In this live episode, the trio dives deep into the 1996 sci-fi film "The Arrival", featuring Charlie Sheen. The movie, with a modest budget of $25 million (approximately $75 million adjusted for inflation), struggled at the box office, grossing only $4.8 million domestically during its opening weekend. Despite its commercial shortcomings, it holds a respectable 66% audience score on Rotten Tomatoes, indicating a niche appreciation among viewers.

Plot Overview and Initial Impressions

John Gabris expresses his initial confusion upon discovering the film:

"This is a sequel." (05:10)

The hosts discuss the film's premise—astronomer Zane (Charlie Sheen) discovers intelligent alien life harboring deadly secrets. However, they highlight how the movie's execution fails to convey the energy promised by its synopsis.

Character Analysis

Charlie Sheen as Zane: Sheen's portrayal of Zane oscillates between an Indiana Jones-esque adventurer and a disoriented scientist. Jason Mantzoukas praises Sheen’s charisma but criticizes the character's lack of depth:

"I fucking love Charlie Sheen." (08:14)

Supporting Characters: The absence of substantial interactions leaves Zane isolated, with minimal support from characters like Kiki the Kid (Lindsay Krause) and Terry Polo. The early demise of Richard Schiff's character, Toby Ziegler, further diminishes the film's narrative structure.

Visual Effects and CGI

The hosts express mixed feelings about the film's CGI, particularly the portrayal of the aliens:

• June Diane Raphael remarks on the aliens' "legs going backwards," finding it "deeply upsetting" yet "evocative." (09:43)

• Jason Mantzoukas humorously critiques Charlie Sheen's goatee, linking it to the film's overall aesthetic flaws:

  "Charlie Sheen is some sort of expert scientist. Two, Charlie Sheen turns down sex when offered. Took me right out of the movie." (19:47)

Themes and Subtext

Climate Change: A recurring theme is the depiction of a warming planet, subtly addressed through constant references to heat and sweating:

"That's so funny, because I said to Paul, I'm like. I was watching. And then I did get confused at one thing." (19:33)

Alien Invasion Motifs: The aliens' destructive methods, such as releasing scorpions on ceiling fans, are critiqued for their lack of practicality and coherence within the film's universe.

"Why are they releasing, like, scorpions on fans and hoping?" (29:38)

Narrative Flaws and Plot Holes

The hosts identify several inconsistencies and unanswered questions:

• Lack of Exposition: The film fails to provide clear explanations about the aliens' motives and capabilities, leaving both characters and the audience perplexed.

• Plot Progression: Key plot points, such as the significance of the radio transmission and the aliens' ultimate goals, remain obscure throughout the movie.

"There's no explainers ever." (25:51)

• Character Decisions: Zane's irrational actions, like stepping into an alien factory with minimal preparation, undermine the character's credibility.

Memorable Scenes and Moments

Bathtub Scene: One of the most criticized yet memorable scenes involves Zane in a bathtub, showcasing the film's over-the-top special effects:

"He is naked multiple times in this movie." (17:07)

Kiki's Reveal: A pivotal moment occurs when Kiki the Kid is revealed to be an alien, surprising both the hosts and the audience:

"And I thought that that actor's performance was wonderful because I did think, I don't know, maybe everybody read it way sooner." (46:05)

Audience Interaction and Theories

During the live session, audience members posed questions that led to further analysis and humorous conjectures:

• Alien Behavior: Debates arose about whether scorpions were actual aliens or mere plot devices.

• Character Genetics: Speculations about Richard Schiff's character being replaced by aliens added a layer of comedic intrigue.

"If we believe that the girlfriend didn't inform these people, the aliens, that they're going to this satellite, is it possible that note that he left on grandma was actually a note to the other alien saying, we're heading to this satellite area." (50:52)

Critical Reception and Second Opinions

The hosts also presented and critiqued fan reviews, highlighting divergent opinions about the film's merits. While some viewers praise its ahead-of-time commentary on global warming and Sheen's performance, others, like John Gabris, vehemently disagree with high accolades, emphasizing the film's numerous shortcomings.

"I wish they had more. I wish they had more. I felt like, why am I trapped on the outside looking in?" (65:49)

Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Despite its attempt to tackle significant themes and showcase Charlie Sheen's talents, "The Arrival" falls short in delivering a coherent and engaging narrative. The hosts agree that the film could have benefited from tighter editing and a clearer exposition of its central conflicts and alien motives.

"It's like, how did this hello people of Earth hello people of Los Angeles. We are live in our LA home on the third night of our tour where we didn't even have to leave town." (Timestamp varies)

Overall, "The Arrival LIVE!" serves as a comprehensive critique of a sci-fi film that aims high but ultimately struggles to connect with its audience both commercially and narratively.

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Note: All quotes referenced are selected for their relevance to the discussion and are attributed to the respective speakers with approximate timestamps for context.

Transcript

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[John Gabris]

What's up, jerks? Yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Let's go.

[John Gabris]

Let's go. We have arrived.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

We have arrived.

[John Gabris]

Our Arrival is here. It is now.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I don't know if you have a memory of this, and I don't.

[John Gabris]

I don't know this movie at all, really. This movie's a zero for me. I watched this and was like, wow.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I was excited. I was like, can't wait to revisit. Because I was a fan of the movie that kind of preceded this, which was called Terminal Velocity. Do you remember that?

[John Gabris]

No. Wait, this is a sequel.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

No, David Toey.

[John Gabris]

Oh, I see. You like the director's other work.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They were like, let's work together again. Terminal Velocity is great.

[John Gabris]

Did we do it?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

No.

[John Gabris]

Oh, it's great.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, I mean, who knows? I thought this was great, too.

[John Gabris]

So it's Tuohy and Chuck Sheen again. Back at it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

There is a time. And maybe it's because I worked at Blockbuster, where I was watching a lot of Charlie Sheen movies and being like, this guy's got the goods.

[John Gabris]

What I found nuts about this was I not only hadn't seen it, I knew nothing about it. Okay, so that there was a Charlie Sheen is a scientist slash Indiana Jones, slash smart person. I was. I mean, no, I don't know what? I don't even know what this is.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

The fact that you're saying Indiana Jones. Really?

[John Gabris]

I mean, well, all of the second act in Mexico, he appears to be doing a Indiana Jones Romancing the Stone riff, I guess. So here's June.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, wait. Ladies and gentlemen, June Diane Rayfield.

[June Diane Raphael]

Too much was being said.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Sorry. June. How are you?

[June Diane Raphael]

I'm okay now.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

How are you, June? Where do you fall on the Arrival?

[June Diane Raphael]

So I had never seen it similar to Jason. Never heard about it. I loved it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I. I walked through.

[June Diane Raphael]

You really prepped me because you were like, it's me. Very difficult to watch. Like, start watching it now. You'll have to take breaks. Like, it's hard.

[John Gabris]

I rewound a lot. I rewound a lot because I found that I was easily distracted while watching it because it did go slowly for me. So not enough was happening all the time. So I would get distracted, and then I could tell something happened. So I would. So I actually re. I watched this movie for over four hours.

[June Diane Raphael]

It's so funny, because I said to Paul, I'm like. I was watching. And then I did get confused at one thing. I'm like, now, how did he find that factory in Mexico? How did he find it? And Paul was like. Cause he had already finished it. He was like, oh, well. He was just like. He was looking through the jungle, and then he saw it. And I was like, no, you didn't watch that part either. Then you also were distracted. And then I went back and I was like, no.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes.

[John Gabris]

He goes looking for the radio station. It's burned out. And then it pretty much just cuts to him with some sort of telescope. Isn't that him with the telescope?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah. We also is. What I mean is doing some great CGI acting where it's like, charlie, this thing's gonna come out of the ground. It's gonna be big. You gotta give us a big reaction.

[John Gabris]

Oh.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He's like.

[John Gabris]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I mean, it's every. Everything is like, charlie, bigger. It's gotta be this. The bathtub falls through the floor. Charlie, give it to us big.

[June Diane Raphael]

Can I say something, though? I thought he did a fine job.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I fucking love Charlie Sheen.

[June Diane Raphael]

Really did. I find him to be very watchable, whether you like that or not.

[John Gabris]

And they really do. They did him a disservice by, really. He's on a journey alone for so much of the movie. He has almost no one to talk to or bounce stuff off of, except for those moments or periods of time where he links up for a few Scenes with Kiki the Kid, or for a few scenes with Lindsay Krause or. Or for a few scenes with Terri Polo. But otherwise, he's just on his own and holding it together as best he can. But when he goes undercover into the spaceship, the base, the factory, the alien factory, when it's a stab, guys, when it's established that they are aliens, it is one hour and 15 minutes into this movie before someone's legs do a Mr. Todd.

[June Diane Raphael]

The interesting thing about those legs is, like, first of all, I thought it was very. For limited cgi, whatever, for that type of work to be like, early days. I actually thought that choice was very evocative. I was like, oh, that's deeply upsetting. And that is alien. That's so wrong. But then I did have to wonder about the aliens because they are advanced creatures. It's just harder to walk with your legs backwards.

[John Gabris]

Well, they don't ever see them walk. They seem to be using it to jump.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, yeah.

[John Gabris]

When that guy. When that guy Mr. Tonus is his legs and jumps up through the thing, I was like, they're like cricket.

[June Diane Raphael]

I screamed.

[John Gabris]

I wish this had been happening for 20 minutes already. And it doesn't happen for another 20.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Minutes, you know, June, you said you it was disturbing to see their legs go backwards. I'll tell you what was disturbing to me. Charlie Sheen's goatee. Sure, it's a rough look. It's a rough look for an attractive man. I don't know if that was like, oh, yeah, I'm a scientist. I goatee, you know, I don't know if that was a choice in his life or a choice for the character.

[John Gabris]

What year did you say this was?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

96.

[John Gabris]

I feel like this is peak goatee.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah, I think so.

[John Gabris]

This is big goatee time.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

So we're all into goatees.

[John Gabris]

This is when I had a goatee, I believe.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, wow.

[John Gabris]

96. Yeah. This is when I had a big, like, only goatee that went like this long.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Whoa.

[John Gabris]

In Anthrax.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Love that.

[June Diane Raphael]

Well, it's so funny because the character that he plays and I don't know if this is Charlie Sheen. I don't know where the line is between Charlie Sheen and the character, but.

[John Gabris]

The character of Zayn, I hated that his name was Zane.

[June Diane Raphael]

It was horrible.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Zane said so. Minsky, Zayn, Zaminsky.

[June Diane Raphael]

But the thing about Zane is, like, it's not like Indiana Jones. A lot of these other character scientists turn sort of action hero characters. They do seem like, oh, they're normal, nice guys who are have this thing unfolding in front of them and are trying to get people to understand their point of view. With him, it was like, oh, you. You do have the truth. And I understand that you're trying to get people to believe you because what you know is true, but you're still crazy. Like, you, Zayn are still insane.

[John Gabris]

Well, I'm not on his side, that's for sure.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, the way that you don't get on his side right away is when he's working, his wife calls him and says, oh, I'm out at a bar. And he's like, what? Where are you? Better get home.

[John Gabris]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'm like, wow.

[John Gabris]

All right.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Wait a second. It was.

[John Gabris]

I thought that was crazy, too. That's not his wife, though. Terry Polo is not his wife. No, no. I'm only saying that because I was like, oh, wait, they are not married. Are they not?

[June Diane Raphael]

That's the thing that I loved about this movie, though, is the choices it makes. The love triangle that's established is so.

[John Gabris]

Between Charlie, Terry Polo, and Kiki.

[June Diane Raphael]

The fact that they're not married, that she's also got her own care journey in San Diego, that we think she's an alien at one point, for a lot.

[John Gabris]

Of the movie, I think she's.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I wanted her to be an alien.

[John Gabris]

She works at a brokerage. She works at a brokerage. He works for, like, I don't know, Seti. Oh, he works for seti. Sorry. Then he's just walking. Then he gets fired. Toby Ziegler is his partner in crime from the West Wing, Richard Schiff. Like, one of the true greats.

[June Diane Raphael]

One of the true greats. And I was bummed he was killed.

[John Gabris]

Heartbroken. I have so many of my notes in the beginning are like, fuck, yes, Toby Ziegler's here. Give me more Zig. And guess what? No, he's done the land. The landscapers get him. They pruned him right up. I do.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I do want to, like, figure out. Because these guys are like. There are versions of this movie where it's like, trailer. Sheen's a real estate agent, and on the side, he has an effect, an infatuation with aliens. Like, you know, in the way that, like, Richard Dreyfus character and, you know, Close Encounters, his job is an aliens. It's like. But right. So he is doing his job. He is working at his job. And Terry Polo is like, oh, you're just obsessed with these aliens. It's like, it's his job.

[John Gabris]

Well, not only his job.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Another night working. It's Job.

[John Gabris]

It's also success at his job. Yeah, that's the thing, is he should. He's bringing his bosses exactly what he's supposed to be bringing.

[June Diane Raphael]

But that's what I couldn't quite understand, though. Is his job to find alien frequencies?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes.

[John Gabris]

I think they're seti. Him and Toby Ziegler are listening at some frequencies, and then they hear something. They bring the tape to actor activist Ron Silva.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You gotta love Ron Silva.

[June Diane Raphael]

Wonderful work.

[John Gabris]

Incredible in this movie.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I love.

[John Gabris]

As is the Ron Silver character where he's also himself, but with a mustache.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I am. I just.

[John Gabris]

I loved that. I loved when we had Ron Silver play multiple. I was like, whoa.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It was so good.

[John Gabris]

Oh, yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I would just say that SETI stands for the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence. That's his job.

[John Gabris]

Yeah. They are listening.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Right. That's a job which was.

[John Gabris]

Make. Made sense. But nowhere in the. Okay, so nowhere in the movies set up. I understand what's happened, but, like, June was saying, I'm not. I'm not rooting for Charlie Sheen. Charlie Sheen doesn't seem to know what exactly he's pursuing. You know, he.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

There should be the biggest find of all time.

[John Gabris]

That's what I'm saying. He should be a whistleblower. He should be, like. He should. He should have the information.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He is.

[John Gabris]

Remember when he puts on it all over the world?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But he. But he puts on that. Well, once they didn't listen to him when he, I guess, goes undercover as a janitor and then goes into that meeting to be like, where's my boss? Like, wait, why are we doing this?

[June Diane Raphael]

He wasn't in a janitor.

[John Gabris]

No, that's what he wears, man.

[June Diane Raphael]

That's. Well, no, that's. That's his. He's the tele. He's a satellite person or a satellite salesperson.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Wait, I thought that was the one scene when he's, like, going around town getting the satellites all hooked up. But I thought, like, that's his job. But I didn't know he would wear that to the.

[John Gabris]

Oh, yeah, he's wearing that. He's wearing full, like, Regalia belt and everything. And like, Indiana Jones has his whip on his hip all the time. For Charlie Sheen, it's a Sony sports walk, man.

[June Diane Raphael]

Now, I.

[John Gabris]

Boy, did I have that Walkman.

[June Diane Raphael]

We all did. But I had so many questions. It was so tough to see him, like, heading through the jungle, you know, with the Sony with the little earphones up. But my question is this. Were we to believe that that Sony Walkman was Attached to, like, a satellite signal.

[John Gabris]

This is what I want to know. This is what I want.

[June Diane Raphael]

Or was he just wearing them to listen back to some of the old sounds?

[John Gabris]

Or is he listening to music?

[June Diane Raphael]

That's a question.

[John Gabris]

Or is he, like, cruising through the jungle listening to, like, some tunes?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I think it's definitely not hooked up to a satellite. I think he's listening to Led Zeppelin. He's listening to, like, Hair of the Dog, you know, or whatever it is.

[John Gabris]

Hair of the Dog.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Isn't that, like, that song? Right? Hair of the Dog is a band, right?

[John Gabris]

Hair of the Dog in the band. Like, I love this.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Now you're messing with a son of a. Now you're messing with a son of a. Right? That's one of their songs.

[John Gabris]

Oh, I don't know this at all. This is great. I gotta see if somebody out here was singing along.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah. Like, let's see.

[John Gabris]

This is a big Hair of the Dog crowd. Oh, it's Nazareth.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, Nazareth.

[John Gabris]

Nazareth. Hair of the Dog is the song, perhaps.

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[Jason Mantzoukas]

All right. That was all right. That was close. All right.

[John Gabris]

Oh, okay.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Got it.

[John Gabris]

Got it. Thank you.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Now do you get it?

[John Gabris]

Now I get it. I still don't know the song, but yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Now you're messing with a son of a bitch.

[John Gabris]

I would have loved it if we heard that leeching out of his earphones.

[June Diane Raphael]

But what is he listening to?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

No, I think that he is listening to that frequency to see if he gets more clues from it.

[June Diane Raphael]

From the Walkman?

[John Gabris]

How?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

No, no, he recorded it.

[June Diane Raphael]

So he's just listening to an old record.

[John Gabris]

The last but, Paul. The last but.

[June Diane Raphael]

The last 42 seconds long.

[John Gabris]

Yeah, and keep in mind this, the last time he was able to get tuned into that frequency, he had to have like a. A pressure cooker hooked up to a dry ice machine in order to get it to work.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, yeah. No, no, no, no. I'm not saying he's getting the frequency. He's not, like, listening to frequencies like he recorded it. It's like.

[John Gabris]

It's like he made a mixtape listening to his. The Greatest hits.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah. Like, all I want to say is this. I'm just happy that he is wearing that Walkman. Because if he's wearing the Walkman, means he's wearing pants. And this movie, he's not often wearing pants. This.

[John Gabris]

The. Him being like this. He is.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He is pant. Like he is naked multiple times in this movie.

[John Gabris]

It's right in here. That when he. When it's pulled out, that I was like, what the. What he.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You yeah, it's right.

[John Gabris]

I don't want to see this. I don't want to. I don't want to see this.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

We are introduced. We are introduced to Terry Polo in this film. I. I can't tell if it was post shower or post because they're drenched in a way that makes you go either way works or.

[June Diane Raphael]

Well, gosh, that's interesting. I just thought we were being told so many times in this movie, everybody's sweating in every scene, by the way. So, like, I didn't know if they were just sweaty.

[John Gabris]

Well, and I think they the movie. So one thing we haven't said, which is the macro theme of this movie is climate change. This is without a doubt, they are sweating and sweat is a part of it because the aliens like it hot. They don't like the cold. And so they're heating up the world and everything's hot. And the weather people keep being like, it's hotter than normal. And so I feel like they're constantly just letting us know everybody's hot. Everything's. They're sweating.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Okay.

[John Gabris]

They're focused on his sweat when he's in the underground layer.

[June Diane Raphael]

And Green, Green. What was her name? The other woman, the other scientist is Alana Green. Alana Green is also like, her little tail is always dripping.

[John Gabris]

Yeah, she's got that wet tail.

[June Diane Raphael]

She always has a wet tail. And I love that she wanted to, like, take him, take Zane back to her room. I was like, you know, what was.

[John Gabris]

Two things that were hard for me to believe in this movie?

[June Diane Raphael]

What's that?

[John Gabris]

One, Charlie Sheen is some sort of expert scientist. Two, Charlie Sheen turns down sex when offered. Took me right out of the movie.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

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[June Diane Raphael]

I loved that scene. I loved that scene outside the door. It was so weird. It was so.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And there's also the. The allure of the scorpion maybe biting her at any moment.

[June Diane Raphael]

She's, like, trying to find them.

[John Gabris]

Those scorpions were huge. Also, how did all the scorpions get on the blades of the ceiling fan? How did they get, I'm gonna say seven to nine large scorpions on the blades of a rotating ceiling fan that are then being chucked around the room. And Lindsay Krause is like, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do everything. She bathes, she washes up, she goes to bed. It's not until she's tucked in in the dark that one of them, like, gets her on the toe.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh. And we are watching that. Those toes. Imagine my fascination. I'm in the movie theater. Wow, look at this. We're really getting the exciting action of feet under.

[John Gabris]

You also get Charlie Sheen's toes when he inexplicably. Why does he think. The only answer I have when he's in the. He's in the lair and they're now after him is he's like, well, I guess I better step onto that thing that rearranges the molecular chemistry of my body.

[June Diane Raphael]

See, I think I missed something here. I thought that the only thing he had seen was an alien turn into human on there.

[John Gabris]

Yes.

[June Diane Raphael]

Okay, so what? Wouldn't he assume that he would turn into an alien?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

No, I think that.

[John Gabris]

Why does he think evaporated?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

No, I think he's like, oh, got it. That's like a flesh thing.

[John Gabris]

Like, because, like, now when Charlie Sheen says that, I think something way different. Yeah, that's like a flesh thing.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Charlie Sheen's been in Hollywood. He's gone to a lot of parties that have this kind of thing. He steps on it with like, no hesitation. No. Like.

[John Gabris]

Huh.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Should I. There's just. He gets on it and I guess what that thing does is just goop ya. Like it goops.

[June Diane Raphael]

But here's the thing. Okay. So Ron Silva, he's. There is. He's got a twin in this. In the alien lair. Right.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Why don't they have more bodies?

[June Diane Raphael]

Come again?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like, why don't they have like, just more models?

[John Gabris]

I. I like, you know, they get.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like the same guy. It's like that same guy with the curly hair.

[John Gabris]

Yeah. Why is that, do we think? My assumption is they only have the, like the makeup of so many. The only, the only the people they've replaced in the world. Oh, and so they can keep.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

So they only replace three people and they've gotten pretty far with this.

[John Gabris]

No, there's a bunch of people. But again, like, they're reusing some models.

[June Diane Raphael]

Seen them. Are those. I guess my question is, are those models for. From actual human people that.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, Ron Silva definitely is a. A human person, right?

[John Gabris]

No, I think Ron Silver is never once. I think he was.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah. I think Gordy, that's what I. Yeah. When he first hired him.

[John Gabris]

But I think at some point he was swapped out. Pre movie star.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh yeah. 100%.

[June Diane Raphael]

Well, okay, so he was swapped out like an alien came and took over his body. Or is his body somewhere in the dump at the alien lair and they just made a mold out of it.

[John Gabris]

That's what I think. I think he's dead. But they're using his. Yes. His look or whatever. But then the stranger thing is that when he goes to Mexico and in that scenario, the Ron Silver in that world has a mustache.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I think that was.

[John Gabris]

I was like. But hang on. That didn't just start chucking mustaches on guys.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I think why that happened was they, at a certain point they go, this is confusing for the audience because Ron Silver could have traveled there, but they need to make you go, it's. No, no, no. It's not the same one. He's slightly different. Like, and like, you know what's interesting.

[John Gabris]

About this movie, and I'm. I'm only now realizing it is so many of my problems are in. In a good way. This movie lacks any scenes that cogently give you exposition or for what is happening in the movie, what each of the people want or don't want. There's no explainers ever.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

To me, it's like, it's as if Indiana Jones had never had, like, a partner, so it all could be in his own head. Like. Cause Occasionally it's like, okay, the beginning of Raiders. These guys come and go, hey, look, the Ark of the Covenant. It's got this power. You go into this room, this thing happens, and Indiana Jones goes out and he meets somebody else and they go, hey, buddy, when you're here, this happens. And this. He never tells anyone his plan. It's all in his head the entire.

[John Gabris]

Well, also, Charlie Sheen doesn't appear atypically for a person in this scenario. The outside. The person who's been bounced out and now knows the truth and is trying to like, stay ahead of it or whatever, get in front of it. He seems to not know what's going on.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He's too stupid.

[John Gabris]

In fact, I believe, like, he's not a. He's not the smart person who's figured something out in his. Now trying to get in front of it. He is. He knows something and is now just running around trying to gather facts.

[June Diane Raphael]

Well, and that's what's so interesting about the movie and the fact that they kill off Richard shift so early because that character usually was smart and usually provides the information and can check in and say, now we know Richard, shift up.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Immediately. He's like, don't tell him about the backup. Don't tell him about the backup. And anything else. Oh, there's a backup.

[John Gabris]

But then we lose Richard Schiff and we gain Kiki, the little kid who lives next door.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Or Dewey.

[John Gabris]

What are we doing now?

[June Diane Raphael]

And then we have Lindsay Krause for a second.

[John Gabris]

Barely. We have barely Lindsay Krause. But I mean, they keep trying to partner him up, but none of it works because at the end of the day, he simply doesn't know what's going on.

[June Diane Raphael]

But here's my question for the aliens. If I understand that they're trying to teach us a lesson by speeding up our demise. Like, great, it's working. You're doing it. But I'm like, they could have killed him, Zane. Multiple times.

[John Gabris]

Easily.

[June Diane Raphael]

Why actually. But Paul, I mean, the bathtub, they're tracking. But they're tracking Calvin and all of these other people. The bathtub, if you want to kill someone, right. What an elaborate. What a long road to travel.

[John Gabris]

What a mouse. The game of Mousetrap level. Nonsense. If I filled one tub of the floor above, structurally, it would necessarily. It would fall through the floor when he's in the tub. In order for this to work, by.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

The way, everyone is bathing at the same time because when it falls to the next floor, the woman below him is in the tub too. She jumps in the sink.

[June Diane Raphael]

And also, men are so rarely in tubs.

[John Gabris]

Yes, and he's in the tub. This scene goes on for so long. He's in the. I didn't like any of this. It's also. I don't need it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Charlie, bigger reaction. Tubs are falling through the floor. Hide, hide. It's so loud. You look. Big hole, big hole. The hole's giant. I mean, now what did she do? She jumped out into the sink.

[June Diane Raphael]

I understood that.

[John Gabris]

What's funny about that is, yes, obviously she jumped out into the sink, but we don't see that. So it looks like she's just taking a bath in the sink, which is also very fun.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Why is this bathtub so small?

[John Gabris]

Well, they knew that if he convoluted way to try and kill someone when that man could have just walked right in and been like. Like, yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

By the way, the aliens in this movie do have guns.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yes, they do, but. So why are they releasing, like, scorpions on fans and hoping?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Because we all know the Mexican police department do not leave any stone unturned. If there is a murder, they're gonna find their suspect.

[June Diane Raphael]

By the way, the Mexican police department, the way they treated that Lindsay Krause's dead body.

[John Gabris]

Whoa.

[June Diane Raphael]

Was so unacceptable.

[John Gabris]

Oh, yeah. Oh, no. They just roll her up in a truck and pull her out of the back like she's a couple of bags of groceries.

[June Diane Raphael]

So horrible.

[John Gabris]

She's like a 12 pack of Gatorade. Come on. Lindsey Krause.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I was so confused. Also, they established, you know, he is a satellite repairman or whatever he's doing. He's selling DirecTV door to door when he's going there. At one point, you know, in the montage, he speaks very fluent Spanish. And then when he goes to Mexico, he's like, have you ever seen any big, big satellites? Big A, Big a satellites, big grande. I was like, dude, you spoke fluently 15 minutes ago. And you're like. You can't say big, big, big, big, big.

[John Gabris]

But that's what I mean. He's not. He's too dumb. He's too dumb to follow as the lead. He does not seem to have any awareness of what's going on.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

The dumbest move that he does, and it's my favorite move in the entire movie, and I don't have this clip, so we can't play it. But when he's in the. When he's in the elevator dressed as the human skinned version of himself, he's undercover. And then the other alien gets in the aliens, like, and he's like. And he just kind of, like, grimaces, like, man, it's a living. You know? And then, like, it's a living. You think?

[John Gabris]

He said it's a living.

[June Diane Raphael]

That's the look he gives him, though, which is, like, living. What are you gonna do about it? You know?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like, he does like a. You know, he's giving a lot of like, I'm not. I'm with. It's like he does, like, this. Like, the fact that he tries to do anything there is so funny. He's like, let me. Let me whisper in your ear here, you know? And he whispers in the air and then kills him. Like. But, like, that plan was not going to work.

[John Gabris]

No. Also, the guy. It's the guy. It's the taxicab driver who picked him up and delivered him to his hotel.

[June Diane Raphael]

Is it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Or is it one of the models?

[John Gabris]

Oh, no, I know. I'm saying. I'm saying those are the same. They are.

[June Diane Raphael]

They're the same person.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I think he's the same model. I don't think he's.

[John Gabris]

Okay, okay, okay. You're saying the first time around, it's a human, and the second time around.

[June Diane Raphael]

No, they're. We're saying they're both aliens. Oh, they're both aliens.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

We're just saying, like, they were, like, it was another guy molded. He's like, oh, that's our. That's our taxi driver guy. Like, he does that. But maybe to your point, he is in the same wardrobe, and it does seem like they have to get clothes on at one point. They come out naked at that machine. Right. Because Charlie Sheen's in the same.

[John Gabris]

Well, Charlie Sheen has to take his clothes off in order to be transformed. Once again, getting nude in the movie.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Charlie Sheen has no problem going belly up.

[John Gabris]

Oh, he's like, can't wait to get that dick out.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'll take my pants off, too. I don't care.

[John Gabris]

I just feel like, why would I be wearing clothes when I go into this thing? It won't matter. It's going to change you underneath your clothes.

[June Diane Raphael]

It really made me laugh that when he is. Before he goes into the mold and turns into that, you know, puts that skin suit on. He's running around that place, and he does get caught. And then the picture they put up of him, because when he's running around that place, he has his glasses on, his scientist glasses. But when they put the picture up of him, it's just a different. It's just like a still shot that they picked up somewhere by the way.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You said that he's wearing a scientist glasses. He wears so many fucking weird glasses.

[John Gabris]

Weird shades or pair of glasses? Yes, there are a different pair.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They're all, they're all terrible.

[John Gabris]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Terrible choices.

[John Gabris]

Yeah. Oh no, some of them look like he's like an alpinist. Like he's, he's trying to climb a frozen mountain with like guards over so that light can't permeate the sky.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He has the same taste in glasses that my 10 year old has. He's like, I want those.

[John Gabris]

Well, when he's, when he gets fired and he starts building the at home version of his, his lab or whatever it was, I was like, oh, is this going to be like pump up the volume. But for this, like is he going to be like a pirate radio scientist guy? And for 10 minutes he kind of was will.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Then he befriends that kid and I'm like oh wait, is this a kids movie? Like again like where is this gonna be the two of them? And that doesn't pay off either.

[John Gabris]

Well, we disappear because for 45 plus minutes we just leave small town America where the most of the movie takes place and we go to Mexico for this side adventure. It's more than 45 minutes. I couldn't believe how much of the movie was set. Not with any of the characters we'd invested in in the first 20 minutes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But then also when he goes to Mexico and he gets involved in stuff, he has the worst instincts of any adventurer imaginable. He's in that alien spaceship and it's like clearly an alien device. Like I don't fucking touch this. Maybe it's like a record player. Like he was so cocky, like he knew, but he doesn't seem to know anything more than radio signals because even his knowledge of aliens isn't like I've always believed in this. Aliens have been trying to do this. Nope.

[John Gabris]

He just is listening for radio and he produces the tape with this one example of this spike and everything. But never does he really get more. Not until he really finds the underground world and sees aliens themselves. Does he get any more information much? You know what I mean? He's only able to replicate the same thing. He hears this sound for a few seconds and that's that. And then.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And why are they making that sound?

[John Gabris]

Why indeed Are they trying to get. Are they trying to get people to come to. Is it. It's a signal.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I mean they seem like they're pretty much set up on earth, no problem. They seem like they got a thriving Infrastructure.

[June Diane Raphael]

I think the movie wants us to believe that that signal is information that our aliens, the Ron Silver's, the Kikis of the world, needs to hear.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And by the way, when you say it, I keep one thing of Kiki Palmer.

[June Diane Raphael]

One of my favorite lines, by the way, was when Kiki explained that his grandmother wasn't gonna worry about him at night. Cause she takes cough medicine. And I was like, she is.

[John Gabris]

After 10, she passes out for cough.

[June Diane Raphael]

Medicine is too real for that. And I understand her, but she's just. I deeply understand that woman. But yeah, I don't know what, what word they're getting over here because it seems like, honestly, from the aliens point of view, everything's going according to plan.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, it's working.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah. Like, don't give us any more feedback because ultimately.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But you see, I think Ron Silva makes a big mistake because they go, hey, we got this radio transmission, which is just nothing. Right? So he's like, I'm burying it. Okay, well, even if you go, okay, great. He could have gone. He could have gone wide with it. It didn't mean anything. It had no information.

[June Diane Raphael]

But that I think looking back now and have this point of view, now that I've seen the whole thing.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, wow.

[June Diane Raphael]

It's like Sixth sense for you a little bit. That is classic alien psychology, which is like, they don't have the capacity to.

[John Gabris]

That's classic. That's Cap.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's Cap.

[John Gabris]

That's Cap all the way.

[June Diane Raphael]

Of course, he should have just been like, you know, underplayed it and not made it or been like, yeah, we're going to investigate it. But the aliens don't know how to behave. They're studying us.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Okay, well, we have a theory that we know somebody who is also studying us.

[John Gabris]

Yeah.

[June Diane Raphael]

We have a very close person in our life who we actually. This isn't a joke. We do believe it's an alien who's here in this lifetime to observe us.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Now, how we do you feel as.

[John Gabris]

Though because of questions they ask or periods or things that they are around for or are curious about or. Because every once in a while when you're together, they release a metal ball into the air that puzzle boxes itself open and creates a indoor tornado. Tornado.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I also.

[John Gabris]

Metal ball.

[June Diane Raphael]

I don't know. It was so interesting because the design of it, it almost looked like they were hieroglyphic. It almost looked like it was an ancient.

[John Gabris]

Yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Although I guess it's a disappearing ball. I mean, is that what it does?

[John Gabris]

Yes. It almost looked like something. Something that could have maybe given us information about the aliens, what they're up to.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Can't. Don't have time. We only got two hours to get out the story.

[June Diane Raphael]

Let me ask this, let me ask this about the aliens because I, I. It doesn't seem like they are coming to live here, right? Or that they're really worried about us exploring other universes or trying to with them in any sense. We, we are so far from having that capacity. It just seems like they've gotten this thing up their ass where they're like, they just don't like us.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They want to. Well, no, they want to unmick DLT us, right? Or they want to mick. Like, like, you know.

[John Gabris]

They want to unmick DLT us. I don't understand any of this.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

All right, so the Earth is like a mcdlt. We keep. Which is what? The hot side hot. The cool side cool. Right. And we got the hot and the cool and they're like, well, let's merge them together and, and then they could have more of a plan. They want like, we're, we're keeping it separate. And they're like, let's push together.

[John Gabris]

We want to keep them separated. And they are trying to UN McDlt.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes.

[June Diane Raphael]

But their assumption is that we will eventually burn ourselves together and we're speeding it up.

[John Gabris]

But why? I think they want a hotter planet because they thrive in the heat, don't they?

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah, they want another planet here.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They want.

[John Gabris]

But they want going here. I think.

[June Diane Raphael]

Why are they going to move here?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Retirement beach from property? I knew, I didn't get that. I knew that. Ron Silver.

[June Diane Raphael]

Because it's going to be warm.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah. They want another planet.

[June Diane Raphael]

What's wrong with theirs?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They never planned out, do we?

[June Diane Raphael]

I don't think so.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They have a, they have a high birth rate.

[John Gabris]

That's the thing is I don't think we, I don't think we ever find out anyone's plan. I don't think we ever get insight into any, anybody's understanding of the facts of what's going on. Everybody appears to be chasing just whatever's in front of them in that very moment.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It feels like a story that you would tell that wouldn't be a movie. Like, it's like, oh, yeah. And then it was chasing the jungle and then the satellite.

[John Gabris]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, what happened? I don't know.

[John Gabris]

What is it for? What is it? What is it?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I don't know. I don't know. They were chasing me. I.

[John Gabris]

Then they had the station in Mexico that he's inside what are they doing in there? What's going. We never find out what it's about.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Do we know?

[June Diane Raphael]

Just seems like a place for them to connect. But.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, I think a club, an alien club.

[June Diane Raphael]

Well, there's themselves, I guess he finds.

[John Gabris]

Out there's eight of them across the world and they want to make 20. So are they trying to create like 20 space?

[June Diane Raphael]

Well, so I think what they're doing there is. Yeah, they're releasing. I think that machine is releasing greenhouse gas. Right. Okay. So that's. Thank you so much.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You got it, June. You passed the test.

[John Gabris]

So that's. So that's their plan.

[June Diane Raphael]

So that's their plan. And I guess there's some. There's some line about we're doing it in third world countries because. Because why?

[John Gabris]

Because regulation, it's looser restrictions and so forth.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I think not anymore.

[John Gabris]

What do you mean?

[June Diane Raphael]

He's saying they might as well build it here now.

[John Gabris]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, no.

[John Gabris]

At the very beginning, they drop out of the Paris Accords.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

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[John Gabris]

Let me ask you this, wouldn't it. I think it would have been very interesting. Charlie Sheen, he's in the. The base in Mexico and they're after him. And so he steps into the thing nude and it transforms his body with a skin suit over his skin. Blah, blah, blah. Why not just stay as that for the rest of the movie?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He was. He was leaking.

[John Gabris]

Oh, I. I know he was leaking. It. It does. But like, why. Why have him do it if he only is that second for four minutes again?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It's like, it's like the technology that we don't understand. It's like, so what? So it doesn't stick on.

[John Gabris]

This was pointless.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, like, you're right.

[John Gabris]

It's like it would.

[June Diane Raphael]

Doesn't stick on non aliens.

[John Gabris]

I guess so.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I guess.

[John Gabris]

But then why go through it? I guess it allows him to escape because they got him out of there. They find his face on the next to the waterfall.

[June Diane Raphael]

Now the big question for me is how did he escape?

[John Gabris]

Mexican rodeo.

[June Diane Raphael]

No, I got that. How did he escape the indoor. Is that where those yellow glasses came from? Mexican, I'm assuming. Okay, great. And I wish there was just a sequel about that trip.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

What was that, by the way? You're in luck. There is a sequel.

[John Gabris]

Whoa, what?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Arrival 2. It doesn't start anybody from this movie.

[John Gabris]

Okay.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It was a direct to video sequel where they reveal in the opening scene that Charlie Sheen's character had just died of a heart attack. What if they say that Zane was found dead of a heart attack in an Inuit community after his broadcast to the world about the alien invasion. They wrote it off as a hoax. And now Patrick Muldoon, Charlie Sheen's brother. Sorry, half brother, is avenging his death.

[John Gabris]

Wow.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And this is the log line. A computer hacker learns of the plot of the backwards need aliens.

[John Gabris]

What? That's what we call. That's what we're calling them the backward needs.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Aliens need to take over the earth using their shape. Shifting talents.

[John Gabris]

This is ridiculous.

[June Diane Raphael]

I have to say, the one moment that really got me good was Keke's reveal.

[John Gabris]

Yeah.

[June Diane Raphael]

And I want to shout out the actor who played Keke, because I was watching it. Our son was in the room for that final sequence.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, no.

[June Diane Raphael]

And I said. And I said, get ready, she's an alien. Because he walked in when she had picked up the car phone, and he's like, what do you mean? Isn't that his wife? I said, she's an alien. You watch. You watch. That woman's an alien. We watch. We watch. And I. He said, what's she gonna look like? I said, she's gonna look like an alien. And it's about to happen. And, boy, were we surprised when Kiki wouldn't press the red button. And I thought that that actor's performance was wonderful because I did think, I don't know, maybe everybody read it way sooner. I did, but I. Panicking. He's. He is a kid. We're remembering. Kiki's just a kid. And then when Kiki turned out to be an alien. Wow.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But when Kiki flips his knees backwards.

[June Diane Raphael]

And runs off, runs into the desert sun.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But then again, the movie. This is why you got to watch this movie two, three times. Because there are these moments when. When Kiki. When Kiki sees the exterminator and they just look at each other. You're like, ooh, that's a creepy ass moment. Like, Kiki is afraid.

[June Diane Raphael]

And then you look back and you're like, oh, they're.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They're in cahoots. And Kiki should have been. And then he would have been like.

[John Gabris]

I mean, how many people do we think. But.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But why couldn't Kiki have done it?

[John Gabris]

Done what?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Anything.

[John Gabris]

Oh, oh, yes, agree.

[June Diane Raphael]

Oh, you mean because Kiki had multiple opportunities to kill.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

When he jumped in that truck at a minute.

[John Gabris]

They are always letting Charlie Sheen get away.

[June Diane Raphael]

Well, I do think there is a possibility that Kiki was turned.

[John Gabris]

Oh, to the Wait.

[June Diane Raphael]

What do you mean that Kiki was Kiki until. Oh, oh, oh. Until he went to Mexico and then the landscapers got in there, maybe.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

No, no, no. Because the moment that we see, that's the craziest. If Kiki. Yeah, I believe Kiki is an alien when he jumps into the car with them. Right.

[June Diane Raphael]

A thousand percent.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Then why did he leave a note for Grandma? Grandma be back. Like, he's really keeping up this story. Like, Kiki could have just disappeared. I mean, is he running back home?

[John Gabris]

I'm sad for that. Grandma yeah. Does Kiki just go back home and.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I don't know.

[June Diane Raphael]

Because the thing is, we don't know what happens to their real bodies if what's. His face is. Gordy is out there somewhere, you know?

[John Gabris]

Yes.

[June Diane Raphael]

If they're a pod.

[John Gabris]

Yes. If there's a ship full of pods. Secret invasion style.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

Terrible show. But I guess because at the end of the movie, what we uncover is that there's this gigantic plot and these aliens are gonna take over the planet and blah, blah, blah. And our only hope is if Charlie Sheen can wrestle a mini DV cassette tape out of. Out of actor activist Ron Silver's jacket pocket like this. It's.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

So why was he carrying it around? Mail that to the.

[John Gabris]

Are so small for such a big thing that I was like. And then all that. All that he does is successfully broadcast that. That bit of conversation, and that's that.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And never even a shock look of anyone watching that news. No, Nope. Not, not. Not.

[John Gabris]

We don't know how nobody is revealed to be an alien on tv. Nobody. No, no. Great. Gotcha. No, great nothing. I've been.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Then all we know is he died in being with a bunch of Native Americans. He just died in their. In their compound, suspiciously. Which makes me believe the Native Americans are in a too. All right, so let's go out to the crowd. Let's find out what you all think. All right, great. We already have a hand up here. All right, here we go. All right. What's your name? What's your question? Nick. So the aliens, when they're in human form, do not sweat. And that's why there's a fan theory, at least on IMDb trivia, that his girlfriend is an alien also because she never sweats.

[John Gabris]

Wow. And they show her never sweating.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They show everyone else sweating.

[June Diane Raphael]

I thought that in that. In that, like, post coital scene, that they were both sweaty.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That was wet.

[June Diane Raphael]

Oh, from the shower.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[June Diane Raphael]

How do you know?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah. Okay. Hey, what's your question?

[John Gabris]

So my question is going back to.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Kiki because I do believe also the Kiki was turned and going back to the note that you were mentioning.

[John Gabris]

If we believe that the girlfriend didn't.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Actually inform these people, the aliens, that they're going to this satellite, is it possible that note that he left on.

[John Gabris]

For grandma was actually a note to.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

The other alien saying, we're heading to this satellite area.

[June Diane Raphael]

Wow. So grandma's an A.L.I.E.

[John Gabris]

No.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Maybe there's no grandma, just an alien. Maybe it's another alien.

[John Gabris]

Like, imagine a world in which it was revealed at the end of the movie that everybody but Charlie Sheen was an alien. Wouldn't that have been great? I don't think Charlie Sheen nor us, the audience, ever really learned the plot of the movie.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah. All right, this is our friend who read Jill Rips the other night.

[John Gabris]

David. Right.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

All right. So, David, what's your question?

[John Gabris]

Well, I have an alternative theory for Kiki. I think he was an alien all along because when he hurt his ankle, Charlie Sheen gives him an ice pack and he says, I don't like that. That's cold.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, wow. You guys are not messing around.

[John Gabris]

All right?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You're hard to get to.

[June Diane Raphael]

But that's so interesting, because if he's an alien the whole time, then he's just.

[John Gabris]

They. They tasked him to keep an eye on Charlie Sheen, I assume.

[June Diane Raphael]

But again, why did the aliens.

[John Gabris]

Why not just kill him?

[June Diane Raphael]

Make it so hard? Yeah, why not just kill him?

[John Gabris]

They don't need. They're not like he's so close to figuring something. We need out, so let's let him keep going. No, they could. They could just kill him at any point.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He seems to be a person that if he wound up dead, no one would ask a single question.

[John Gabris]

No, he's an unsympathetic human being.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Depending on. Easy, easy. Kill. What's your question? Your name? Your question. My name is Dave.

[John Gabris]

Question is, from the very beginning of.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

This movie, the title is the Arrival.

[John Gabris]

But they never arrive. They're already there.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

So now this is interesting. Now get ready for this. That's a great question. The title of this movie before it was released was Shockwave. But that also doesn't make any sense. You all agreed to it, like. Yeah, well, that's better. It doesn't. There's no shockwave. There's no arrival.

[John Gabris]

You guys fucked up.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It should have been like Heat Wave. It could have been, you know, skin suits. Yeah. Kiki's Big Adventure. They're already here.

[John Gabris]

Okay, well, Kiki does bring some stuff. Kiki's delivery service.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

All right. Yes. Your name, your question. My name's Andy. Do we think that the Scorpions might have actually been aliens? Because they were very well organized. I was gonna say the same thing. Maybe that's how they first started on the planet. Instead of having a human. Human flesh machine.

[John Gabris]

I would have loved it if they were. I would have loved it if there was specificity to anything. If I understood. If I understood the aliens plan, the alien's look, the alien's ethos, the aliens weapons. I wish I under that. I wish they had More. I wish they were letting me in more. I felt on the outside the whole time just like Charlie Sheen.

[June Diane Raphael]

The one thing I really didn't like about the aliens was their two skin flaps in the back of their head.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They're like bunny ears that are down that then kind of like heat them up a little. They're like Jar Jar Binks ears or something like that.

[June Diane Raphael]

One of the things I loved. I just want to mention it before Second Opinion songs is in the beginning.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

June, don't spoil the episode.

[June Diane Raphael]

Sorry. In the beginning scene with Schiff and the two of them are doing like, real intense rolling office chair acting. And I realized as I was watching it, I was like, I love this. I love this. It always works when people are rolling in and rolling out.

[John Gabris]

They've got great banter. It's got great banter.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah. Rolling back to this computer and then we're rolling here and then sometimes we're cross rolling. And it's always wonderful.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I mean, look, you're right. We lost Richard Schiff. I feel like Charlie Sheen might have wanted to just go solo. Like, just be like, you know what? I don't need any help.

[June Diane Raphael]

I wouldn't be surprised. I was fine with Richard Schiff being left back. I just thought. And then coming back at the end, but losing him altogether so quickly.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

What would have been the best reveal.

[John Gabris]

If he comes back in as an alien? Well, would have been great. Is we see him get taken away. And yes. Later in the movie, after Mexico, he's back and he's like, oh, what happened to you? I went to.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's it. That's when you realize he.

[John Gabris]

It's not Kiki, it's Richard Schiff.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Let me call up David Toey.

[John Gabris]

Hold on. Yeah, let's. We can do this.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Can you go shoot more? Yeah, he said he can.

[John Gabris]

Nice.

[June Diane Raphael]

Wonderful.

[John Gabris]

Shane figures out that if he hits the bad guys with liquid nitrogen, they freeze.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

And you can like, smash them, basically, right?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah. But I think that that's also for everyone.

[John Gabris]

Oh, yeah.

[June Diane Raphael]

You don't think that's for everyone.

[John Gabris]

Well, how come it doesn't. It doesn't affect him or Terry Polo?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Because they're not getting blasted with it.

[John Gabris]

I think you could get. Can I. Do we have any liquid nitrogen experts?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah. Yeah. What do you know? What do you know about liquid nitrogen? I worked in research labs and yeah.

[June Diane Raphael]

Liquid nitrogen will you up. It'll burn you really bad with just a tiny bit. Anyone? Or aliens, if you're an alien.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

We used to do this bit. We used to do this bit at the show he used to do. Used to be Chad Carter used to do it because he had access to liquid nitrogen. And he would be like a Mr. Science Guy. He's like, oh, yeah, you could put anything in here. Put a rose in here. He'd drop a rose, break it. Then he'd be like, oh, you put this in there. Break it. And then he's talking, and he accidentally puts his hand in there. And then he had a whole rig, and then he would slam. His hand in hand would explode. And that's how I always know that liquid nitrogen. Yeah. It will fuck you up bad. Okay. Yeah. They shoot them, and then they're kind of like icicles. Because, like, when he does, like, chop his hand off.

[John Gabris]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, God.

[John Gabris]

But I was like, now they're gonna know to get the hot aliens with extreme cold. Isn't that smart? Nope. They don't do it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They're gonna mcdlt it again. Like, that's all.

[John Gabris]

You mean they're gonna un mcdlt it?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Right? Because they want to make deal. Well, I guess the idea is that we are a mcdlt planet.

[John Gabris]

Is McDonald's sponsoring this episode?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Does the don't honestly blow it? Don't blow it.

[John Gabris]

Does MCDLT still exist?

[June Diane Raphael]

No.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I think it could come back.

[John Gabris]

So, wait, is there no bacon in a mcdlt?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

All right, well, Jason, hold on one second. I mean, because what's.

[John Gabris]

Well. Or what's the. What's the d. What's the d in a McDlt?

[June Diane Raphael]

McDonald's.

[John Gabris]

Donald's. So it's a Donna. Donald's Lettuce and Tomato. I'm so sorry. I know this is a bacon, lettuce, and tomato, and you're telling me with assuredness that it's a Donald's Lettuce and Tomato. Hold the Donald's for mine.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Look, this is a Jason Alexander commercial for mcdlt, okay?

[John Gabris]

With his hair system.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You say you're getting tired of lettuce and tomato hamburgers in this town that don't quite make it. Yeah, you see the justice once you'd.

[John Gabris]

Like your hamburger hot and your lettuce.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And tomato cool and crisp all at the same time.

[John Gabris]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, I say you got it. I'm talking McDonald's through lettuce and tomato hamburger. The McDLT. I'm talking quarter pound of beef on the hot, hot side, and the hot stays hot. The new McDLT. Hot, hot, crisp, lettuce and tomato on the cool, cool side, and the cool stays cool. The new McDl Crisp. The beef stays hot.

[John Gabris]

The cool stays crisp.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Put it together, you can't resist. Hottest taste, the coolest alien. Keep it hot, hot. Keep it cool. Cool.

[John Gabris]

Crisp. LT Nick D. Wow. Whoa. Keeps going.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

What is a tomato hamburger ever? Wow.

[John Gabris]

That's incredible. And I'm just looking at the description below, and that's written by Stephen Sondheim. Wait, when did this exist? When was the last time a mcdlt was offered?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I mean, probably before Jason Alexander was on Seinfeld. We know that.

[June Diane Raphael]

So all a mcdlt is, is the burger in different compartments?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes. A lot of Styrofoam. Here's the thing.

[John Gabris]

And there's no.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Let me tell you. So I was asked to collaborate with a restaurateur in New York, and he said he makes a really great burger. And I. And I. He said, what are we going to do? I said, I want to bring back the mcdlt. And this is a couple years ago. And he's like, wait, I don't know what that is. And I said, hot side hot, cold side cold. You're going to deliver this and you push it together. And he's like, that's a genius idea. People went fucking nuts for it. Because, of course you don't want to get the tomato. You want a crisp tomato. Wait a minute.

[June Diane Raphael]

But the problem.

[John Gabris]

Crisp tomato, or I mean, you want.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like, you want the.

[June Diane Raphael]

You don't want it to be hot. But the problem I have with the mcdlt is the bun on the hot side is going to be such a different temperature than the bun on the. On the cold side. And I. I don't like that.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

All right, how about.

[John Gabris]

How about this? Don't eat this garbage.

[June Diane Raphael]

No, that's not an option.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

The lettuce and tomato.

[John Gabris]

What is this, the Doughboys? Are we doing a Doughboys episode right now?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Jason, I. Forks. All right, now, obviously, some people have a different opinion about this movie, and that is why it's always time for us to give thanks to them and give a little bit of a spotlight and something we like to call spot. Second opinion. Yeah.

[John Gabris]

Okay. I'm Stuart. This is my sister. Hi, I'm Sasha.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah. Second opinions.

[John Gabris]

Second opinion. These are second opinions that were called from Amazon Sea. Second opinion, second opinion.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Five stars. Oh, amazing. Give it up. Great job. Thank you so much.

[John Gabris]

You can head back to your incredible duo. Give it up.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Great job. The average review of this movie is 4.5 out of 5 star stars. Out of 400 total reviews, 72% are 5 star fiolage. Back in 2011 writes, There is a sequel called Arrival 2 for this film and while it is good, the first film, the Arrival is outstanding and Sheen plays his role incredibly well despite his recent difficulties. He is a stellar actor and this film is a wonderful example of his talent and his ability to make a real, somewhat hard to believe scenario. I watched it several times and the entire cast, such as the little alien boy, are very convincing. Another point, the Arrival came up with global warming just a few years before Al Gore brought it to the concern. So if Al Gore hasn't seen this movie, he should. Gilly man, Gilly Mann writes. Now we all know that these newscasters with the funny looking legs are indeed aliens. Wait, the legs tell it all.

[John Gabris]

Five stars. What legs? What newscasters?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You know, these, these newscasters with the funny looking legs.

[John Gabris]

What? Like Mary Hart?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

This is written in 2003. The arrival is simply the best after being a sci fi fan for many decades. By the way, this is all in caps, so it'd be like this after being a sci fi fan for many decades and seeing many sci fi films. This one the Arrival. The first one with Charlie Sheen, not the tag along Arrival 2, which is okay. The Arrival is far one of the best I've ever viewed. The studio's recent attempts like Mission to Mars and the Red Planet are bad, bad attempts. If you viewed these, they should at least make them understandable and viewable with a decent plot. Although Pitch Black is pretty good. If you are a sci fi fan and don't have the original 1990s version of the Arrival, you don't know what you're missing. Ad Astra. Five stars don't know what Ad Astra meant at the end. There it goes. And that is. Those are the five star opinions of the Arrival.

[John Gabris]

I mean, I disagree. I mean, to say that this is like the best science fiction movie ever is nuts.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, I would say that one little piece of science. The FM frequency radio waves would not be used for interstellar communication because radio waves bounce off the ionosphere back to Earth. None of them make it out to space. But maybe he was hearing interplanetary communication.

[John Gabris]

Yeah, maybe they're talking to each other.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They also say the Black Hole generator sucks up everything in Zane's attic and it leaves the rest of the house intact with only a damaged electrical socket.

[John Gabris]

It basically cleans up.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes, says but when the same device is used in the satellite array, it destroys the entire building. So maybe it's just a setting.

[John Gabris]

They blame the where's the satellite array? What did you set the ball to.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They put it to max power.

[John Gabris]

Sometimes the ball looked like small and sometimes the ball looked like a basketball. Like it also had. It was like inconsistent size wise.

[June Diane Raphael]

I did find it so satisfying to see his back house all cleaned up by the ball.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I wanted it back.

[John Gabris]

Yeah. I wish I could sell that ball. Imagine if we all had balls instead of roombas running around, you know?

[June Diane Raphael]

Great.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I do like when taglines are long. And this is the tagline for this movie. For centuries we've been watching the skies when we should have been watching our backs.

[John Gabris]

Oh, love it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's it. Sorry. Not as long as I thought. But it's a lot. It's not like the arrival. They're here and they're mad. That's like. It's pretty good.

[John Gabris]

It's ultimately, I enjoyed watching it. It's not a ton of fun. I wanted to be let in more on everybody's experience. I felt like the movie was keeping. Really keeping Charlie Sheen in the dark, but also keeping the audience in the dark. So much so that there was. It wasn't as fun to have the. There were so few discoveries and pieces of knowledge. Given that. I felt like, why am I trapped on the outside looking in?

[June Diane Raphael]

Well, when the film first that older man in Mexico, when his bones started cracking and then he jumped up onto the roof and then he also sort of looked down like, yeah, yeah.

[John Gabris]

I was like, this guy.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Gotcha.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah, give me more of this. It's so funny. And I was like, oh, wow, we're in for a ride.

[John Gabris]

And also that guy. That scene comes at the very end of that guy trying to kill Charlie Sheen in the bathtub where Charlie Sheen is now just wearing pants and no shirt and keeps running in and out of a Mexican funeral is what's. What's the people carrying flowers.

[June Diane Raphael]

The Day of the Dead is what.

[John Gabris]

Day of the Dead, Sorry. He's running around like chaos agent.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And I'm like, he's running around like the. What's this guy from the MMA fighter in the beginning of Roadhouse when he's Conor McGregor. Yeah. When he walks around butt naked in the middle street of like, best interest of all time in any movie. But yeah, like, he's got very casually running around and that guy should have just jumped on a building immediately.

[John Gabris]

And why wasn't either that guy or any of the other aliens just constantly trying to kill Charlie Sheen from then on? Like, we know that's their intention now. So keep at it, guys.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, be pretty easy. Pretty easy to do.

[John Gabris]

I mean, the best we can do is when he gets back, the landscapers come after him with, like, a scythe. I was like, what are we now we're gonna reap Charlie Sheen? What's going on? Give me alien guns. Give me anything. Let them ball him.

[June Diane Raphael]

He's not particularly good at hiding, nor is he really trying to hide.

[John Gabris]

And they are bad at finding. Nor are they trying to find. Everybody's bad at their job in this.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Except for Ron Silver.

[John Gabris]

Yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Seems to be very good at his job.

[John Gabris]

Yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I mean, I like. Look, I like this movie if it was 30 minutes, 30 minutes long or 30 minutes shorter. 30 minutes long.

[John Gabris]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I don't think. I think that there was a lot that was. We didn't need to be established. Like, there's not much going on here. It does need a sequel. I like what Tim said, that it should have been his arrival on the alien ship.

[John Gabris]

Has anyone seen the sequel? Okay, good.

[June Diane Raphael]

Never heard a silence like that.

[John Gabris]

As I was asking, I was like, I hope one of these idiots doesn't answer. God, I saw the next 15 minutes where I'm trapped in a conversation with, no offense, one of you fucking absolute lunatics.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Thank you so much for coming, Largo. Good night.

[John Gabris]

Eat shit.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's a wrap on the Arrival. Thank you to the entire staff at Largo and our recording engineer, Rich Garcia. Make sure you keep on checking the how did this get made Website to see more live dates. Now, our T shirt design, one of my favorites from this entire tour is associated with this show. It says stop climate change with a drawing of a MCDLT styrofoam container on it. You can snag that shirt and a ton of other HDTGM merch at how did this get made?.dashery.com now if you have any questions, concerns, things that we might have missed, you can give me a call at 6-1-9, Paul ask or write a comment on our discord at discord gg hdtgm. I'll respond to your message on next week's Last Looks episode. Plus, Jason will join me to chat about TV and movies, everything that we're watching and into now. If you don't know, my book Joyful Recollections of Trauma has come out in paperback with 20 new pages. I also built a brand new part of my website with tons of videos and pictures and scripts. You can get in a deep dive into the UCB or just see a picture of me kissing my mom. Anyway, check that out and make sure you check out Jason, myself and more at Dinosaur. That's right. Dinosaur is at Largo in Los Angeles on 531 and every week. Jason is on Taskmaster. This season is so good and he is fantastic on it. Remember, if you listen to us on Apple or Spotify, please make sure you are subscribed to our feed and have automatic downloads turned on in the show settings. It helps us and we appreciate it a lot. And last but not least, I gotta thank our entire team to who the show could not be done without. I'm talking about our producers Scott Sahni, Molly Reynolds and our movie picking producer Avril Halley, our engineer Casey Holford and Jesse Cisneros who makes all of our social media videos. Alright, that's all I got. We'll see you next week on Last Looks. Bye for now.

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