War of the Worlds (2025)

Summary

How Did This Get Made? – "War of the Worlds (2025)" (September 5, 2025)

Hosts: Paul Scheer, June Diane Raphael, Jason Mantzoukas
Episode Theme: A hilarious takedown and dissection of the new, much-ridiculed "War of the Worlds (2025)"—an Ice Cube-starring, COVID-era retelling of H.G. Wells’ classic story, which leans heavily on webcam filmmaking, product placement, and questionable technology.

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into the internet-infamous flop "War of the Worlds (2025)," just weeks after its release—and its immediate rise to meme status thanks to a 0% Rotten Tomatoes score (later 3%). The comedy trio, joined briefly by producer Scott, gleefully unravel the movie’s baffling choices: COVID-inspired single-location acting, relentless product placement (hello, Amazon Prime), and a plot hinging on alien data vampires and surveillance culture. The review ranges from incredulity to reluctant admiration—if not for the film, then for its unintentional comedy.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. The Premise and COVID Context

• Origins: The movie was filmed at the start of the COVID pandemic and released five years later.
  • June: “I thought that it was a Covid movie… Like this was made on March 14, 2020… everybody just had their iPhones and a computer screen…” [03:28]
  • Paul: “It was shot right at the beginning of COVID...” [04:05]
• Delayed Release: The group jokes about the attempt to update the VFX over five years, only for the movie to still look like “everything is a docusign.”
  • Jason: “Everything looks like a docusign. Nothing looks real.” [04:45]
• Single Location Filming: Actors are mostly on their own, speaking to phones or webcams, which becomes its own running joke about “webcam acting Olympics.”

2. Plot Breakdown and Character Oddities

• Ice Cube stars as Will Radford, an expert NSA surveillance analyst who monitors everyone—including his own family via smart fridge cameras and Facebook.
  • Paul: “He is stalking his children, he is stalking the refrigerator of his children.” [06:24]
  • Product placement is rampant: Amazon Prime, Tesla, Facebook, Microsoft Teams, and more.
• The Alien Threat: Aliens attack Earth by sabotaging satellites and critical infrastructure, but the movie makes the inciting action about stealing “data.”
• Data centers are literal targets; aliens are described as “feeding” on data.
  • Scott: “This whole attack is just a big diversion to get those tripods to the data centers…” [11:43]
  • Paul: “All these robots are just fingering the data.” [12:11]

3. Product Placement and Absurd Tech Use

• Amazon is the hero: From a drone-delivered zip drive (which Ice Cube has to literally 'add to cart') to saving the world with “Prime” delivery.
  • June: “They're not gonna have... Amazon be the...thing that saves the world... They did.” [11:17]
  • Jason: “Just to see how easy it is to order quickly on Amazon… even in the end times…” [17:31]
• The film’s depiction of technology (dropdown menus like “show sensitive government addresses,” hacking by clicking “data” pictures, etc.) is hilariously unconvincing.
  • Jason: “There are shots in this thing where I just wrote down some of the things that are available in dropdown menus…” [35:42]

4. Technical and Dramatic Incoherence

• Characters communicate only through video chat—even in mortal danger.
• The action often devolves into watching Ice Cube furiously click around multiple computer screens.
  • Jason: “It gave me a panic attack, like too many open active windows on his desktop.” [02:51]
  • June: “I would love someone to pull some data on how. How much screen time is devoted to just his screen and moving windows around…” [48:44]
• Real-Time Confusion: The passage of time is inconsistent; all scenes seem to proceed in “real time,” though time jumps are unclear.
• Stakes and Contradictions: Characters act like the world is ending, but news channels still broadcast, Amazon drones still deliver, and WiFi never goes down.
  • June: “People have access to Internet still. Like they took down a lot. Yeah, but they didn’t take down our WiFi.” [33:07]

5. Plot Holes and Absurdities

• Ice Cube's powers as an “analyst” defy logic: he coordinates the global war effort, talks to the president, and directly controls high-level military drones—for some reason.
  • June: “He runs the world alone. Alone in that office. But at the same time … he has no idea what's happening and is making all the terrible decisions.” [40:45]
• The villainous aliens’ plan—to “eat” data—is never explained, and the film confuses tech jargon throughout (including a running joke about how characters say “data”).
  • Paul: (montage) “Data, data, data, data ... They're eating our data. My data is being drained.” [47:19]
• The Disruptor Twist: The hacker they’re tracking is Ice Cube’s own son—and the protagonist never figures it out despite surveilling his every move.
  • Paul: “The fact that he couldn’t figure that out makes me think he’s dumb. Absolutely terrible.” [31:08]
• Dramatic Scenes Undercut by Context: Ice Cube’s big emotional letter to his kids is a string of disconnected sentences, written while saving the world.
  • Scott/Pseudovoice: “Dear Faith and Dave, being a parent is hard....” [72:13]
  • June: “There’s not a paragraph to be found in that.” [73:17]

6. Unintentional Comedy and Performance

• The hosts repeatedly marvel at how the actors are “working so hard at an impossible task”—acting world-ending drama to a webcam, alone, against green screens.
  • Jason: “It’s impossible to act, not just to act against nothing, but to act against nothing but have the stakes be so high.” [60:30]
• Eva Longoria as “Sandra, NASA” is a standout, earning the hosts’ praise for her professionalism amidst the chaos.

7. Running Jokes and Memorable Quotes

• The show amplifies how often “data” is pronounced differently, compiling clips (“data,” “dada,” etc.).
  • June: “And there's only one right way to say it, of course, which is data, data, data.” [47:30]
• Product placement gone wild: “add-to-cart” moments, Amazon drones heroically saving the day, and the “baby daddy” being labeled as such by on-screen tracking overlays.
  • Paul: “This is a world in which aliens are attacking, cities are being destroyed, and when they tell this…guy…‘free cell service’—not moved. But when they say, ‘$1,000 Amazon gift card,’ he risks his life.” [17:43]
• Microsoft Teams as the global crisis command line, causing existential distress:
  • Paul: “You can’t have a more jankier video service... I want to turn down that meeting.” [14:28]

8. Critical Reception and Audience Response

• Hosts read truly bewildering (and glowing) 5-star Amazon reviews; some see it as a “profound message,” “corporate world takedown,” or “cyber evasion” thriller.
  • Paul (reading): “I like when the President said, ‘I hereby initiate a war of the Worlds.’ And everyone clapped.” [66:30]
  • June: “Dropping nuclear bombs? … I don't remember that.” [67:43]
• Group debates if this movie is the "Independence Day" for a new generation.

9. Would They Recommend It?

• Universal consensus: it's “wild” and absolutely worth watching—at least the first 15 minutes—for the sheer confusion and unintentional comedy.
  • Paul: “...even at a tight 90, it went down pretty smooth.” [77:21]
  • Jason: “This is the kind of movie that…you can watch while making coffee in the morning…” [77:39]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• Jason: “It gave me a panic attack, like too many open active windows on his desktop.” [02:51]
• Paul: “His cursor is the little hand cursor. It looks like a kid’s computer. ... Not like one 63 year old man.” [04:45]
• Scott: “This whole attack is just a big diversion to get those tripods to the data centers…” [11:43]
• Paul: “All these robots are just fingering the data.” [12:11]
• Jason: “Amazon is the hero of the movie.” [10:34]
• June: “I would love someone to pull some data on how much screen time is devoted to just his screen and moving windows around and answering calls and typing and coding versus, like, action with people and aliens…” [48:44]
• Paul: “It is absolute madness what…he has at his fingertips.” [36:29]
• June: “I did. I liked what he said [in the letter]. … But there's not a paragraph to be found in that.” [73:17]
• Jason: “It’s impossible to act, not just to act against nothing, but to act against nothing but have the stakes be so high is impossible to….” [60:30]
• Paul: “I will fly the Amazon drone to your office…” [61:10]
• June: “He runs the world alone. Alone in that office. But at the same time, like he has. He also seems to have no idea what's happening and is making all the like, terrible decisions.” [40:45]

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Important Segment Timestamps

• [02:51] – First impressions and COVID context
• [06:24] – Ice Cube’s character as a stalker and tech voyeur
• [11:43] – Alien plot and “data center” revelation
• [14:28] – Microsoft Teams as emergency command center
• [17:43] – Amazon drone–delivered USB drive
• [35:42] – Hilarious dropdown menus and hacking scenes
• [47:19] – Data/dada pronunciation compilation
• [60:30] – Acting through the webcam—praise for the cast
• [66:30] – Glorious Amazon user reviews
• [77:21] – Final recommendations (“went down smooth”)

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Tone and Style

The conversation is fast-paced and irreverent, packed with wit, in-jokes, and exasperation. The hosts riff on every plot hole and delivery device, balance affectionate skewering with some genuine admiration for the cast’s commitment, and return repeatedly to the wild product placement and the absurdities of depicting a global crisis entirely via computer screens and shopping carts.

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Final Thoughts

“War of the Worlds (2025)” is (unintentionally) one of the strangest movies the hosts have covered—part pandemic artifact, part Amazon infomercial, part lost dad-thriller. If you crave “pure bonkers,” watch it, even if only to see world-ending drama fought with dropdown menus, Facebook messages, and panic-clicking “add to cart.” As Paul puts it:

“It will still shock you. … Even everything that we’ve just revealed here, it will still shock you.” [58:38]

Transcript

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[Scott]

Here we go.

[Paul Scheer]

Now it's time for.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Mediocrity of Sabar.

[Paul Scheer]

Perhaps we'll find the answer to the question, how did this get made? Hello, people of Earth and beyond. It's the movie taking the Internet by storm since its release only a few weeks ago. Ice Cube and a retelling of H.G. wells, War of the Worlds. One man, one computer screen. And a lot of product placement in an attempt to keep the show slightly on track. Because I know I could spend an hour pulling apart the first 10 minutes. Or let's just say this Ice Cube plays Will Radford, a badass surveillance programmer who can monitor every person on Earth. However, his relationship with his pregnant daughter and son is strained because he is stalking them. Oh, and today is the day that the aliens attack. Anyway, let's meet my co hosts, Jason Mantzoukas and June Diane Rayfield. How are you both?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Wow, wow, wow, wow. This was something else. This gave me like, this gave me a panic attack. Like too many open active windows on his desktop. I didn't like. I didn't. It was stressing me out how much clicking around this movie entailed from moment.

[Paul Scheer]

One that click, click, click, click, click, click.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Didn't like it.

[Paul Scheer]

He's in the office of Homeland Security. Yeah, right. He is this expert hacker, surveiller, whatever you want to say. He works alone in an office with multiple desks and computer screens.

[June Diane Raphael]

Wow, Good point. Well, okay, so I thought before I realized it had just come out, I thought that it was a Covid movie. And I was like, oh, this is so smart. Like this was made on March 14, 2020 and they had to all be separate. Everybody just had their iPhones and a computer screen and they just shot it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah. Three weeks after our Vancouver show where Paul absolutely had Covid.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yes. And Paul spread it internationally single handedly. But I was like, oh, this is a Covid movie. And well done. Yeah, you know, well done.

[Paul Scheer]

By the way, June, it was a Covid movie. It was shot right at the beginning of COVID Okay, so then, so then summer and fall of 2020.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

So why, why force it on us now? Well, I mean, I assume they've taken the past five years just to really dial in the visual effects.

[Paul Scheer]

I think at a certain point you may say, let's take a loss on this one.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

You know, I don't know why it was delayed so heavily. Because to your point, June, it's not a movie that requires a tremendous amount of work in the. I guess maybe the computer screens. I don't know.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

What do you mean? Everything looks like a docusign. Nothing looks real. Nothing looks like it's good. His cursor is the little hand cursor. It looks like a kid's computer. He's on. And the Department of Homeland Security would have hundreds and hundreds of analysts working at desks with multiple monitors. Not like one 63 year old man.

[June Diane Raphael]

Well, I would understand it if he had gone into the office at like 5am and then they went into lockdown. But he's there at 9am on a Sunday. It's a, it's a Sunday.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I think someone says It's Sunday at 1.

[Paul Scheer]

I believe it is a weekend because that's why the Secretary of Defense is out golfing with a cigar. Yes. And that's also why our other Homeland Security chief, Clark Greg was working out in his office.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh yeah, just working.

[Paul Scheer]

Just doing a home gym in his like work office. Not like a home Office.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Get packed.

[June Diane Raphael]

Oh, my gosh.

[Paul Scheer]

Jacked.

[June Diane Raphael]

I appreciate then, that they did this during COVID That does. I do. Because I'm like, this is people. We were trying. You guys don't remember? We were all trying to do the best we could.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Listen, I appreciate that they made it. I don't think we needed to have it released. I don't think. I don't think it needed to be disseminated. Sure. If you want to make movies as, like, something to do, great.

[June Diane Raphael]

That's what we watched. We watched people doing something for the sake of doing something.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes. We watched people who weren't comfortable being bored at home, who couldn't. Who couldn't read at home and just. And get through it.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, I mean, this is the thing, though, this movie, Grant. Fourth retelling of War of the Worlds. Right. We've seen it multiple times. This is a different way of doing it, but by putting him in this position where he's also kind of like a stalker. He is a straight up stalker. He is not only stalking his children, he is stalking the refrigerator of his children. Like, there's a camera. Like, I know that there are cameras on the outside of fridges. I've never known. Yeah. Like, there's like. So you can do, like, zooms and like, family like, conversations like that.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Do you think there are now smart fridges that can scan what's inside your fridge?

[Paul Scheer]

Wow.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's part of their thing. They're being like, oh, we know when you're low on milk or whatever.

[June Diane Raphael]

It does sound wonderful, but. But here's what I did not understand.

[Paul Scheer]

I could use that.

[June Diane Raphael]

It does sound wonderful, but here's what I didn't understand.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

My fridge keeps texting me, you up.

[June Diane Raphael]

You. They. He already seems to be running the world. Okay. So I seem to be eyes on everything, listening to conversations, knowing what people are about to do, following them in fridges, in food orders. Now, what I could not for life of me understand is like, well, if he's all. We're already able to do that.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[June Diane Raphael]

What. What is the difference between him and the technology he's giving Galileo or Goliath or whatever that thing was called.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

So he's using a program called Guardian, which seems to be very robust in its ability to break passwords and hack into people's stuff. He's able to delete his son's video game from his game console or whatever. Like, he's very invasive. So what must Goliath do?

[Paul Scheer]

I mean, he is so invasive that at one point he pulls, like, an FBI most wanted list, clicks on the person that he wants to follow for that day and then zooms in on the. The literal block that he is living on. Like, and then everything comes through him. Like people are asking him for warrants. NASA is like, NASA. What's going on?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He's going on every level. He is. He is dealing with Eva Longoria, who I believe is NASA or weather adjacent.

[June Diane Raphael]

NASA.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, she's NASA because you know that when she popped up on screen, it says, like, Susan, NASA. Right. Sandra, by the way, I want to say if everyone who's acting by themselves in this film, Eva Longoria, like, I. I am all in on her. I just saw her on Brooklyn nine nine, and I was like, this is great. But she kind of brings, like, it all together. This is an insane thing. And every time she comes on screen, I relax a little bit. I'm like, okay, we're in good hands here.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes.

[Paul Scheer]

Like, she at least knew how to set up her camera and get a good angle on herself and a good performance. Whereas I feel like maybe some of the ice cube ones were right out of the, like, one or one and done.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Here's the thing.

[June Diane Raphael]

Now I have. I have definitely FaceTimed moving around, but very rarely because it's so difficult and to be. To hold the phone out and to talk to someone, but then also make sure that you're going where you need to go. And I just, I could not get over the number of times people in this movie, our dear friend Andrea Savage included, you know, they are in mortal danger.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[June Diane Raphael]

And still filming themselves.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They are FaceTiming. I think the movie wants us to believe we're getting access to, like, their body cams, but body wouldn't be pointed in a. In a single shot. A one or a one shot, rather, of their faces.

[Paul Scheer]

Andrea is putting on her tactical gear and the shot is from the trunk at her. There is no camera. What? She didn't put down her phone there. There is a. A lot of time where we don't know why the camera's there. And also great for iPhone because they get a. They take a licking and keep on ticking. I mean, these aliens are shooting lasers and they just, they. They're working fine. Just a second later.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, no. The only thing that is more robust in terms of all of the computers and all of the phones is anything that Amazon touches, whether it's drones or packing tape or vans or drivers. Amazon is the hero of the movie.

[June Diane Raphael]

And I really, when I saw. Saw the driver in the beginning, and I realized we were watching on Amazon Prime, I thought, well, for sure they're not gonna have, like, Amazon be the. The, you know, like the thing that saves the world. The world? Yeah, okay. The planet Y. And. And I thought that's gonna be. That's crazy. Like, I like this guy. He's an Amazon driver. Like, it's all. But they're not gonna do that. They did.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, yeah, they did. Everybody in the movie is pretty stupid. You know, like, there's a thing where Eva Longoria is like, they're moving, they're on the go, they're changing direction or whatever. And they're. Everybody's doing their, like, hacking furiously, clicking their keyboards and trying to figure out. And. And. And. And ice cubes going through 1 million different windows for different tracking. This is. And that. And then this is when they figure out that they're going after all the data.

[Scott]

Holy shit. This whole attack is just a big diversion to get those tripods to the data centers. And those tripods are just Trojan horses. Get those little. Into the servers to get to the data.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And he's like, oh, it's data. And he clicks in, like, data. Government data facilities. And it populates pictures of all the government data facilities, which now have the robots just standing outside of them, just fingering them.

[Paul Scheer]

All these robots are just fingering the data.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You didn't need to.

[June Diane Raphael]

You.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You lost. You miss. They've already gotten there. Like, anybody with. Just looking at it. Like, you've not crack the code. You're so behind. Obviously, they're at the data centers. They're there already.

[June Diane Raphael]

Of course. Right? They're there. Just look at them. Yes, but. But what? I could not, for the life of me, under. Well, first of all, it seems to be daytime everywhere in the world.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes.

[June Diane Raphael]

So it's the same time. The armies are not.

[Paul Scheer]

By the way, is this movie in real time?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It seems to be.

[Paul Scheer]

I mean.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Right.

[Paul Scheer]

Because I have some. We'll bring that up in a little bit. Because I do have some questions about that as well.

[June Diane Raphael]

I have some questions about that too. But. But what we watch, ultimately, meteors hit the Earth. They hit the satellites first to take them out. So we have no warning. Which, by the way, I'm like, how did they even know that that was the intention? They keep on saying, we realized they intentionally hit the satellites. How?

[Paul Scheer]

Don't know how. Well, the meteors are.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Goliath. Goliath. Goliath was able to hack the hack the aliens. May I chat?

[June Diane Raphael]

So. So. But then all of the world's infrastructure starts to Fall apart. We're talking power grids, gas lines, everything. They've now they're in our data now they are dealing with the. They've taken down our militaries globally. But what they couldn't stop was news alerts.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, oh. People are still broadcasting. I mean, there's a moment.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, go ahead.

[Paul Scheer]

Where the meteor has just crash landed on Earth and, and if we're in the real time of this world, that means that they got a reporter out to a meteor that has landed. She stands there and then is blown up. Immediately, immediately, immediately.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Here's what I'll say. This movie exists in a world in which Fox News is interested in telling the truth. Yeah, Fox News, which was shocking. Like the way this movie could have been better is if every time they cut to the Fox News people, they weren't covering the invasion at all. They were covering like Hillary's emails. You know, that's what I wanted.

[June Diane Raphael]

I would, that's the data.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They, that would be the great joke that if the movie was interested in it. But no, they do keep cutting back to Fox and Fox is reporting the same information that CNN is and all the other news sources.

[Paul Scheer]

Here's what I want to bring up. The biggest flaw in this movie, the thing that makes me not trust anything from a technology perspective in this film is that they're all on fucking Microsoft Teams. You can't have a more jankier video service. Like when someone tells me they want to have a meeting on Microsoft Teams, I want to turn down that meeting.

[June Diane Raphael]

Same.

[Paul Scheer]

I don't even want to go.

[June Diane Raphael]

You're barely going to get me on a Google Meet. Yeah, barely.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

What is this, a hangout?

[Paul Scheer]

The other thing I need to bring up is this is a man ice cube. He has lost his wife. How?

[June Diane Raphael]

An illness.

[Paul Scheer]

And well, I don't think an illness because she leaves a message like, hey, be nice to the kids and take out the trash. I think she was like hitting a hit and run.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, interesting.

[Paul Scheer]

Because that was the last message.

[June Diane Raphael]

No. Doesn't the daughter say you couldn't. You know when she gives her her monologue about you don't have as much power as you think you do, you couldn't stop mom from getting sick.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, I thought it was like.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

So I think, I think that's just an old voicemail. He listens to it.

[Paul Scheer]

I don't think on Facebook, by the way. That's the issue. Why is the head of the nsa.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

Getting voicemails?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He's so active on Facebook. He's like, so, like that's the thing is, I kind of also wish there had been other open windows that he was interacting with that were like. He also had an instant cart order he was waiting for. He also was like, got to get swiping on Bumble. Like, I wish that he was just not so. Just clicking on hacking sites and password generators.

[June Diane Raphael]

Oh, my God.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, I wanted to see him playing Minesweeper in the background too. Yes, got it. Now, he originally was supposed to be paraplegic, but when the director saw how exciting it was that he threw his chair, he was like, he should walk now.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, my God.

[Paul Scheer]

And I heard that. I was like, that's interesting. But then I'm like, well, how would the whole end of the movie play out? Because a majority of the third act is him running from through a building to catch an Amazon prime drone.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, my God.

[Paul Scheer]

This drone, to me, was one of the best things ever because, like, he needs to poison the database with this zip drive. But before he can do it, he has to order a zip drive just to signal, I guess, the drone to even work because the.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes, the guy can't fly. Mark, the Amazon driver, has access to an Amazon drone. He is the daughter's baby daddy.

[Paul Scheer]

Baby daddy is on the surveillance footage because whenever the daughter walks by, it says baby daddy on it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Okay, got it. So he's the baby daddy. They're not married, but. But nonetheless, she's very, very pregnant. He applies a tourniquet to her injured leg with packing tape. With Amazon packing tape.

[Paul Scheer]

I mean, it's pretty strong.

[June Diane Raphael]

I should thought it was a good idea, though.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, it's great idea, but.

[June Diane Raphael]

But I just don't understand in the world of the movie why we needed to see him add a zip drive to cart for that drone.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Just to see how easy it is to order quickly on Amazon and see that, you know, it's just an ad. It's an ad. Like, even in the end times, you can order and receive exactly what you ordered instantly.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, this is what I do love about it, is that this is a world in which aliens are attacking, cities are being destroyed, and when they tell this, you know, homeless guy, oh, my God, hey, we'll give you a free cell phone service. He is not moved by that. But when they say, we'll give you $1,000Amazon gift card, he risks his life.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

To flip the drone over. Insane stuff.

[Paul Scheer]

The world is ending. People are making decisions. And, like, that's the other thing too. Like, yeah, you got to add the. You got to add the zip drive to cart. Because here's the flaw of that is ideally the drone would then pick up the zip drive from the depot and then mail it out. But he's, he's just taking his own zip drive, putting it in the drone and then flying it with the most complicated VR goggles. I'm like, if that's the. Is it just one person just flying drones and drones?

[June Diane Raphael]

I don't know, but it's, it's honestly like problematic because you would think the drone would know. I have got to go to the depot.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes.

[June Diane Raphael]

That's my first stop.

[Paul Scheer]

Like, how is he cutting it through? Because he's carrying a backpack.

[June Diane Raphael]

He's run across no QR code. There's no, I don't know, there's no address.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But it really is the movie is interested in your shopping experience. Showing you an Amazon shopping experience.

[Paul Scheer]

I did like those clicks.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'm genuinely.

[June Diane Raphael]

It was only like one click, to be honest.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It was buy it now. I think I did.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Buy it now and then just use current location and is that an option on Amazon?

[Paul Scheer]

Use current location.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Department of Homeland Security. And then he flies into the building. The Amazon driver is able to move the drone through the buildings, cubicles, hallways, stairwells of the Department of Homeland Security.

[June Diane Raphael]

But this is the exciting news is that we did get a preview because he said they've been training us on this.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[June Diane Raphael]

So it seems so wild to us now, but like I bet within this calendar year we will have drones flying into our homes and delivering like Q tips right to our bathroom, like right into our ears. It's gonna be so great.

[Paul Scheer]

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[June Diane Raphael]

So the Sons of Video, I couldn't understand that. Oh, yeah, I couldn't understand that.

[Paul Scheer]

And those drones have missiles on it, like military drones.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah, yeah. Well, I laughed so hard earlier in the movie when the son's walking down the street, he's already been attacked by, you know, the meteors have come, they're attacking. And Ice Cubes, both to his son and his daughter just keeps on screaming.

[Scott]

Get away from that. Get out of there now.

[Paul Scheer]

Stay clear that stuff. Get out of there. Get out of there. Run.

[June Diane Raphael]

Get out of there. And I kept on saying, to where, where to, where are you gonna go? You're in the middle, you like them to go.

[Paul Scheer]

And he's them, he's a go straight, make a left. I'm like, where, where, where, where are they going to get to that will be safe from the giant alien ships that are firing?

[June Diane Raphael]

Although here's the thing about the aliens, though. They don't seem too concerned actually with killing people.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

No, only like if they're being attacked by helicopters or whatever. They are not. Yes. They're not just destructive in terms of like walking down the street, you know, zapping everybody. No, they're not.

[June Diane Raphael]

What do you think, though, that they actually, what do they want to do with that data?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They want everybody's nudes.

[June Diane Raphael]

But seriously, what are they doing?

[Paul Scheer]

They're feeding. Like, that's, I think that they're vampires that feed on data and they're just finding planets with data, so, so when.

[June Diane Raphael]

They get data, more little ones are born. Is that what those little insects were?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

All the little bugs? I liked the little bugs element of it, but I, I, I don't think they ever figured out a meaningful way to tell us what was the bad guy's plan. Like, I, I guess I understand how we stopped them by poisoning the data or whatever, but like two twice, by.

[Paul Scheer]

The way, we do that twice.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, right.

[Paul Scheer]

We give them two, we give them one virus that's kind of okay, and then one virus that's kind of partly a human virus because, yeah, I think.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

One of them, we gave them was COVID 19.

[June Diane Raphael]

Well, yeah, and I don't, I didn't know how. They were half biological and half cyber, which Eva Longoria multiple times.

[Paul Scheer]

I just believed her when she said it.

[June Diane Raphael]

I. Oh, absolutely.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And the, and the, the smoking gun information that Ice Cube's son gives him that illustrates all of this is the case is basically 12 PDFs that are just old documents showing that aliens have come before in the past. I was like, this is not nearly enough information. This is just basically 12 single documents that he gets to open and be like, they've been lying to us the whole time.

[June Diane Raphael]

But, but what have they been doing with that data?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, we don't know.

[June Diane Raphael]

We don't know.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It's none, none of it solves any of the questions. It just proves to him that, that he's been lied to.

[June Diane Raphael]

And because Goliath is. Because there's so much data that's about to come in that somehow triggered the aliens.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I think so, like, I think Goliath is so much more data rich that it's like too, too attractive to them.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, I mean, but here's the other thing. His job is spying. Like, at certain points, it's not just about people in the United States. He's pulling up camera views of everywhere. So he is. And I just want to go back to this because why is what the government doing wrong and what he is doing on a daily basis, even to his own family. Right.

[June Diane Raphael]

Like, there's not. That's what I wanted to say to his son too. It's like focused on ex. On just what Pops is up to.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, I mean, I do also just want to get into. He is the head of NSA surveillance Domestic, Domestic. And he is tasked with analyzing this situation. At one point, the President's like, all right, what do you got? And we know, we know that he, we know what he's been doing because we've been watching in real time. And he gives a full throated analyzed version of what is happening.

[Scott]

Mr. President, gentlemen, we're seeing a full attack on our infrastructure, on power grids, water, communication, and top level military targets. They knew exactly where they were going, and they are systematically eliminating resources and our ability to coordinate a response. Here, let me show you. These locations are our global response headquarters, our most sensitive targets. And they're taking them out one by one based on their prioritized destruction of these critical intelligence command centers. My analysis suggests nuclear power facilities are next. Electric grids will follow, leaving us completely helpless.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Do you see that? They're grouping to concentrate Their attack.

[Scott]

Exactly. And they will be much stronger in groups. So if we concentrate our armed response assets to our high priority locations, we can hit as many as possible. I think it's the only option we have right now.

[Paul Scheer]

How do you know? Yeah, how do you know?

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah, he has taken it in, he's analyzed it and he's giving. He, he is reporting out like a very high level kind of summary and we never saw any of those pieces coming together.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Honestly, most of what he's done has been to alter the electronics in a Tesla that he got his daughter in so that it would have higher battery to get her farther away from the bad guy.

[Paul Scheer]

And by the way, I, I know that a Tesla, if you're a down on 12, it's just going to drive right to a charging station. It's not going to allow you to go on the road with that little of a charge.

[June Diane Raphael]

Where does he send her?

[Paul Scheer]

To a hospital?

[June Diane Raphael]

No, no, Paul, they're all full.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They're just, they're just in an office. It looks like he looks like he.

[June Diane Raphael]

Just sent her to like an abandoned.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes, an office park.

[Paul Scheer]

By the way, Scott wants to point out that his official title is Domestic Terror Analyst.

[June Diane Raphael]

Now I don't know much about much, but it seems like when you're just. Your title is just analyst that you're pretty low level.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He's too old to have this job.

[June Diane Raphael]

He's too old to have this job. But it's like you are. If I don't see a head of. Or anything like that on your title. Like I, I am concerned that you are being led into these things. Zooms. And he's always late with the President.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He's on with the President, so he should have dozens and dozens and dozens of people who are doing exactly what he's doing. He. If he's talks to the President, he shouldn't be doing that many clicks.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, and also I will say that the pre. The President should be in a safe room, not in the Oval Office. The President is fully.

[June Diane Raphael]

It's hard to trust anyone's background, Paul, because what we'll find out later on is of course that this hacker we've been looking for the whole time, the disruptor is actually his son after all.

[Paul Scheer]

And the fact that he couldn't figure that out makes me think he's dumb. Absolutely terrible.

[June Diane Raphael]

Because he should have. He has on his computer, his son's location, everywhere. Listen, the, the guys when he photoshopped himself and also when did he cut that YouTube video together?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He cut like a meme video.

[Paul Scheer]

He, he built, he made a reel.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He built a meme video with like all sorts of specifics and jokes in it. And like I was like, what the fuck?

[June Diane Raphael]

He, he did a great job on Capcut. But here's my question. When, when the sun is. When we think he's at his actual home, which is Ice Cube's home, when we think he's there, there's a giant explosion which Ice Cube is, is tracking.

[Paul Scheer]

And the aliens come to Ice Cube's house.

[June Diane Raphael]

Correct. And, and destroy it. But he, the son reacts to it so strongly. The camera goes flying, things are happening. The camera's on the ground with soot on it. But then we find out that he is not at his home. He's at one of the other hackers homes and, and has a backdrop like a screen that he pulls down. What was he reacting to?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Who knows? Well, I think the, the aliens, the aliens I think were coming for all of the hackers. His whole disruptor team got it, got attacked at one point.

[Paul Scheer]

Do you think that he was just maybe like having like Phantom. Like, like, like, like June going to see a horror movie with you, you jump out of your seat. So maybe, maybe like when that explosion happens, like, oh, he just like he just kind of had his own. Yeah, he shouldn't have gone anywhere.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I loved that during the whole attack, like there's still an element that is monitoring like social media. Like there's hash, hashtag free Earth. Like yes, Ice Cube is somehow monitoring social media as well. Again, this is a 60 year old man.

[Paul Scheer]

Like the world is ending. The world.

[June Diane Raphael]

People have access to Internet still. Like they took down a lot. Yeah, but they didn't take down our, our WI Fi.

[Paul Scheer]

Although at one point didn't they say they took down all the power they got WI Fi.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

People still got to post.

[June Diane Raphael]

We have.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's when I will start posting.

[Paul Scheer]

That's by the way, you keep on saying he's old in this movie. And I, and I don't disagree. That's why I wanted him to do more like hunting and pecking. I wanted to type in, be like yes, tink, tink, tink. To like just.

[June Diane Raphael]

I was obsessed with the fact that. Well also the idea that his daughter and her baby daddy would be on Facebook.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[June Diane Raphael]

Is the only flaw of the movie, to be honest. But like that's absurd.

[Paul Scheer]

They're only communicating on Facebook.

[June Diane Raphael]

Everybody's communicating on Facebook.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It's the most important app in everyone's lives.

[June Diane Raphael]

Well, but, but I laughed so hard when the, when everything's all right. At the end.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

This is incredible.

[June Diane Raphael]

I mean, saves the world. And then on Facebook, we get to see pictures of her baby shower. And there are four people there.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Five. The five cast members of the movie.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[June Diane Raphael]

Okay, so it's. You're right.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It's the two kids. It's Mark, and it's Eva Longoria.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes. So are we to believe that they are now a couple?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That. I hope so.

[June Diane Raphael]

Oh, that would be wonderful. I'd like to see him get back out there.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I would love it if they were the only five people who survived on.

[Paul Scheer]

Earth because she's the head of NASA. At the end of the movie, she becomes the head of NASA. She's in front of the White House. Maybe they needed to shoot that scene in 2025 just to finish the film. Because after COVID protocols are lifted, we can finally get the five gas.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I mean, five years later, we. I mean, NASA basically doesn't even exist anymore as. As an entity. Like, we. We live in a post NASA world right now.

[Paul Scheer]

I guess I did have a problem that the president was so quick. Like, he's hearing, okay, aliens have attacked. The meteors are things. They're taking our data. And he goes, well, I see no.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Other option to initiate this war of the worlds to save us all.

[June Diane Raphael]

He.

[Paul Scheer]

He does say the titular line.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, yeah. Which is repeated multiple times too.

[Paul Scheer]

And then, like, ice cube is like, yes, yes. Like, he's psych. Like it's a football game. Like, finally, finally we are in this.

[June Diane Raphael]

Finally, we've got a war of the world, honestly. As though everyone's been waiting for this and preparing this for it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, well.

[Paul Scheer]

And they keep on saying on the front lines, where are the front lines? Every shot of the globe, it seems like they're everywhere.

[June Diane Raphael]

Everywhere in the daytime.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And we're losing. All of our ships have capsized. All of our planes are falling out of the sky. We are losing in a way that is shocking. And. But they barely show because mostly what we see is a cacophony of dropdown menus. I would like. There are shots in this thing where I just wrote down some of the things that are available in dropdown menus on Ice Cubes. And one of them is. This is just an option in one of his dropdown menus. Show sensitive government addresses. That's an option he can click show sensitive government addresses.

[June Diane Raphael]

But then some of the other options are copy. Like, there's such a range of options in that dropdown.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It is. Yeah. Like, it might as well also be like a thumb the thumbs up emoji. Like it is absolute madness what is what he has at his fingertips. And also how it's, it's what you were saying earlier, Paul, about him acting like he was at like a, his kid's sporting event or something. Right. Like it's the same thing we had with when Hugh Jackman was a hacker in whatever hacker movie that was.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like there's an element of trying to give intensity and action and emotion to what is such a. Just flat. I'm just typing on a computer to try and give it weight, to try.

[June Diane Raphael]

And give it state. That is why he's late to so many high level meetings. Because, Sandra, NASA's calling. People are always calling in when he's doing something else. Yeah, he's on the phone with someone, someone else is calling in. Everybody's gotta be on video. You'll never get a phone call in this movie. Just straight up audio. You have got to be on video. And that's the way that urgency is, is created in this. Which is so wild.

[Paul Scheer]

I mean, my favorite moment, though, is when his son reveals that he is the disruptor, the person they've been chasing. He goes, it's you, it's you.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, well, yes, kind of.

[Paul Scheer]

I. How could you, man?

[June Diane Raphael]

How could you?

[Paul Scheer]

Should you.

[Scott]

My own son is hacking the government.

[Paul Scheer]

It's you, it's you, it's you. Like, out of his chair. And there's a couple moments when he gets out of his chair. That's probably my favorite. But the second is when clearly, as an actor, Ice Cube understands he can't leave this room. So he runs to the most flimsy glass door. Like where if you pull in the door, it kind of makes a clunk, clunk, clunk, clunk sound. You know, it's like it's not even sealed. He runs to that glass door, like, locked. Like it's locked from the inside. I'm like, what? That door doesn't even seem to have a lock on it. And if it did, a strong push would break it. Like, he's not in a secure room. He's in a office that most normal officers.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He's in a conference room in West Hollywood.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Let me be clear. He's in like his manager's office.

[June Diane Raphael]

Well, but here's the thing though. Like, I do wish, I do wish they had some, we had some sense of like, oh, these aliens have a certain Achilles heel. They can't go into. Like, they can't, they, they're, they can't go into coffee shops they can't go whatever it is because they are half human. Like there's something about them. But as it seems there is no.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They are susceptible to COVID 19.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah, there is no safe place. So, yeah, the. The Department of. Of Terror Analysis or whatever is on lockdown. But what does it mean? Nobody is safe in this world.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, also, how come the. The aliens haven't attacked the building he's in, which is where like Goliath is.

[Paul Scheer]

They should have just.

[June Diane Raphael]

That was their last stop, Jason.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I guess so.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah, just was like last on the agenda.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

The way the movie is set up. He's alone, I believe on a Sunday or on a weekend or whatever at the Department of Homeland Security. Which suggests to us that they take the weekends off entirely. Yes, the entire Department of Homeland Security goes take weekends off.

[Scott]

Right.

[Paul Scheer]

Because there's no one in the Clark.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Hike is like, what are you doing there? Why are you at work? And what if he wasn't? The building would be empty.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah, it seems someone should be there 24 7.

[Paul Scheer]

But by the way, it seems like they're doing a very important thing which is bringing down the disruptor today who's like number 12 on the most wanted list. And it seems like Andrea Savage is like, I need the warrant. And he's getting a warrant.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He's getting a search warrant for the FBI.

[Paul Scheer]

Why is she even reporting to him? She reports to him multiple times. Like, you're the FBI. He is an analyst again.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He's doing too much and also not nearly enough.

[June Diane Raphael]

Well, you're so right. Because on the one hand, he runs the world.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes.

[June Diane Raphael]

Like truly he runs the world alone. Alone in that office. But at the same time, like he has. He also seems to have no idea what's happening and is making all the like, terrible decisions.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, well, there's another thing that I've just been realizing too. Like we're supposed to believe that he is smart. But he stops these aliens by putting a 128 gig like hard drive in like USB. A USB, right. Which by the way. So I just googled that as we were talking. Here it goes. 128 gig hard drive is suitable for basic use.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

But moderate. It would not be sufficient for users who need a game or a software.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You couldn't even put like a high fidelity album on 128.

[Paul Scheer]

I have a 4 terabyte. Or like a small. A sandisk. Like that's tiny. Like just up it. Guys. Like if we're taking down the entire.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Make it sound big. That's what I mean by when he finally gets. When the son gives him the Goliath whistleblower document. It is so basic. It's so not interesting. It's so not impressive, I guess, is what I mean. You know, like you think it's going to be this big reveal, they've got this cutting edge software and all it is is a bunch of old photos of UFOs from the 50s.

[June Diane Raphael]

But here's, here's what I find to be so fascinating about this filmmaker and the choices that are made. Like, you could still open up six of those files and look at like old timey newspaper clippings or whatever, but have hundreds of files sent over.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes.

[June Diane Raphael]

And yet the choice is like, no, just 12.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, just 12.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, it does feel like the movie does feel like by having Ice Cube as the lead. It's that same way that Liam Neeson action movies function. Like, this is for dads and uncles, right. And I don't think they wanted to clutter it up too much and to confuse the dads and uncles.

[Paul Scheer]

Right. It's a sort of like computers can get you any information, obviously, and Amazon's great to deliver you shit. And your kids are on Facebook being weird and you gotta monitor and you gotta. And you don't know what your kids doing in the next room.

[June Diane Raphael]

And Tesla are basically ambulances and can save your life.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

This is for dads and uncles. This is what this movie is.

[June Diane Raphael]

Oh my God. Well, it's so funny. So our youngest son came in while I was watching it this morning and goes, oh, what video game is this?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Amazing.

[June Diane Raphael]

And I said, oh no, this is a feature film.

[Paul Scheer]

What I also appreciate from that, that's knowing, knowing both the people in that story, my wife and my son, is that he would ever assume that you were up at 6 in the morning playing a video game. Like that would like, like, like he.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Would have been like, I like that. You felt like you needed to identify that you knew both of the people in the story. Me, your wife and your son.

[Paul Scheer]

Just wanna, I just want to just say that I won't go on record and saying, I know both of them.

[June Diane Raphael]

Both of the people.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like, I like that. Before you, before you provided your anecdote, you were like, just so you know, this is from insider info. I happen to know the person that June is mentioning. He's my son.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, he's. He knows what's up. Up the.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That was wild.

[June Diane Raphael]

Both of the people.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, man.

[June Diane Raphael]

Oh God.

[Paul Scheer]

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[Scott]

These things eat data.

[June Diane Raphael]

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[Scott]

Data to get to the data.

[June Diane Raphael]

These little guys are drawn to data.

[Scott]

You know, everywhere they've been Going. There's a data center.

[June Diane Raphael]

No. The code you will be carrying is data.

[Paul Scheer]

What if we starve them out? Take away the data?

[Scott]

So we got to infect all the data centers.

[June Diane Raphael]

Data center?

[Scott]

Yeah, data centers.

[Paul Scheer]

We use the data centers they've connected to as bait and plan. An old school rabbit virus to infect.

[June Diane Raphael]

The data they're eating, the more data it consumes.

[Paul Scheer]

Data, data, data, data, data, data, data, data. They're eating our data. My data is being drained. They're speaking back and forth, and it does feel like they are having a pissing contest on how to say well.

[June Diane Raphael]

And there's only one right way to say it, of course, which is data, data, data.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Not Dada. Oh, do you have that Dada for me?

[Paul Scheer]

Give me my Dada.

[June Diane Raphael]

Now, where did we ever get to see where those little bugs that were feeding on the Dada went?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I mean, they're all over the place. They're attacking Ice Cube when he gets into the Goliath Room, I believe, like.

[Paul Scheer]

When those little snake legs pull, but.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They seem to be.

[Paul Scheer]

Sorry.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Gets them. They. She traps a couple and she's keeping them as pets. I think.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, I think that. That, like, that's really what I'm curious about. Like, because she's like, oh, I like these little guys. But meanwhile, the scene before, they were crawling all over her.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And also they are. They have blood. Hey, guess what? They also have blood. So, like, get out of there, Eva. There's so much happening outside. Like, the movie is unquestionably happening outside. Like, aliens are attacking. There's so much happening. And we spend all of our time watching Ice Cube try and maneuver a cursor like that. The movie we're watching is Ice Cube and a computer.

[June Diane Raphael]

I would love someone to pull some data on how. How much screen time is devoted to just his screen and moving windows around and answering calls and typing and coding versus, like, action with people and aliens. Like, I really do need to know, because it did feel like, God damn it, I am watching a computer screen now. There's another version.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It was stressing me out.

[June Diane Raphael]

It was stressing me out.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I think there's a way that this style, or whatever you want to call this can be very interesting. I just. It just didn't really work here. But because I think to use these elements all of the way that we communicate is so smart. If you're interested in interrogating how we communicate.

[Paul Scheer]

Right.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

This is not doing that.

[Paul Scheer]

I do want to also bring up that, you know, earlier we've been talking like, oh, Clearly, Amazon wanted a lot of product placement. Would it surprise you to know that this was a movie not made by Amazon? It was made by Universal. It is only being distributed on Amazon. So this is.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Wait, so this. The Amazon stuff was in there before Amazon was part of it?

[Paul Scheer]

Yep. I mean, I think that they probably did some sort of branding deal with.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It, but it was not.

[Paul Scheer]

Like, this wasn't a direct.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It wasn't cooked up by Amazon.

[Paul Scheer]

No. Universal Studios bought this movie independently of Amazon.

[June Diane Raphael]

That's shocking.

[Paul Scheer]

And then maybe that was a backdoor idea, but this is not an Amazon made for Amazon.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'm surprised there was not an Alexa moment in this. In this whole thing. I'm shocked there that they didn't. Somebody didn't say, Alexa, you know, where are the robots or something.

[Paul Scheer]

Alexa find Disruptor.

[June Diane Raphael]

Well, a lot of things. Like, once they get into audio, because so much of it is video, the movie really falls apart. It's like when he. He is able to talk through the Amazon truck.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[June Diane Raphael]

Through a system. The speaker system.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

What speaker?

[June Diane Raphael]

What speaker? And how does he have. Fine. He's able to, like, connect to the camera. And Mark almost drives off the side of the road. He's so shocked. Yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes.

[Paul Scheer]

I mean, just to go back and say there is a camera in a commercial airliner that just has footage of like, where's that camera? Like, what camera is in a commercial airliner?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

How come there aren't a bunch of shower cams if that's what he's showing?

[Paul Scheer]

Well, that's what he's getting in there early for.

[June Diane Raphael]

Why isn't he in Goliath.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Exactly. Checking out shower cams. I think that's Goliath is just. It's a picture of Clark Gregg unredacted. It's a bunch of pictures from the 40s and 30s of UFOs and then just shower cams.

[Paul Scheer]

You did not wash your pits. Like, it's like. It's, you know, just like letting them know. But there is something in this movie that's so crazy. Like, you think this is going to be about a movie where we're taking down, like, a cyber terrorist, Somebody who is like, that organization that wears the. The masks.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Anonymous.

[Paul Scheer]

Anonymous. And that first part of it, when he's getting the warrant, when he's zoning in on the house, when he's finding the block and the apartment building and everything. He's also off checking Facebook in between that. Like, it's like he's not even focused on the task at hand. It's like, okay, we're gonna get that warrant. Let me call my daughter real quick. You know, it's like, this is. There's an FBI SWAT team standing outside of a building with guns ready to go.

[June Diane Raphael]

I think you don't know what it's like, Paul, to deal with as many windows and dropdown menus, and the speed at which he is able to do these things is. Is beyond your wildest imagination.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, I don't.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Here's what I'd like to see. And listen, I think Ice Cube is a fantastic actor. I don't think he can type that fast. No, I didn't believe he could type that fast.

[Paul Scheer]

No one.

[June Diane Raphael]

He is a very fast. Now, I'm a fast typer, but are you really? Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Did you take a typing class?

[June Diane Raphael]

Yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Or is this just. Oh, you did.

[June Diane Raphael]

Okay, I did. Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Did you, Paul?

[June Diane Raphael]

No, Paul didn't.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, can I tell you why? Because when they said, you want to take a typing class, like, I don't think I'm gonna have to use typing in what I'm doing. I was interested. I was adamant that. I was like, yeah, yeah, none of that, please, Like. Like, this is not gonna come in handy for me at all.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, my God, that's so funny.

[Paul Scheer]

I rejected it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And it was even offered to me.

[June Diane Raphael]

It was offered in sixth grade. We all had to learn typing smart.

[Paul Scheer]

I. I mean, I.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Can I just offer a psa. This is a PSA to people that I think maybe. Maybe generationally, we just have forgotten or people don't know if you have something stuck in your body like the daughter does in this movie. She has. Oh, yeah, some piece of shrapnel in her leg. Do not pull it out, period. That will make it worse. Make it. Wrap it tight so that the thing stays in there. Do not pull it out of your body. That's my psa.

[June Diane Raphael]

Okay.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, I mean, I think that you're right on the. You're right on the level of Ice Cube. Like, Ice Cube is very much like, don't pull it out. I do want to also bring up.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, I mean, like, my guy applied a tourniquet to her leg. So in the. At the end of the movie when they're showing the. The baby shower pictures, she should have lost that leg.

[June Diane Raphael]

Thousands.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's what a tourniquet.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That.

[Paul Scheer]

That leg would have been gone.

[June Diane Raphael]

Well, especially because you have to imagine that after. Even after that, they, you know, got the virus inside all of the aliens. I think. I don't know. Even after that happened, like, all emergency and, like, medical Services must have been down for a really long time. Like, I can't imagine she got any help.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

No.

[June Diane Raphael]

You know, so that leg had to come off.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Had to go. Had to go.

[Paul Scheer]

But you know what? She lived another day. I mean, the fact that she didn't have a miscarriage, honestly, was also pretty impressive. I mean, for the amount of stress that she went through, I'm shocked they.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Didn'T try and make that the plot line.

[Paul Scheer]

Right.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That she goes into labor and that. That is what Ice Cube is monitoring, is her giving birth.

[Paul Scheer]

The final moment of a baby being born would have been pretty great.

[June Diane Raphael]

And then if it got bitten by one of those little bugs.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Whoa.

[Paul Scheer]

First alien human robot hybrid.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I love it. That's the sequel.

[Paul Scheer]

What the hell is happening here?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Boom.

[Paul Scheer]

Just so you all know, Amazon prime air has taken flight. It is. It is an active.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

This is the drone delivery system.

[Paul Scheer]

It's the drone delivery system. It is. It is happening in Texas in like.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Phoenix, rural areas, I believe it's happening in areas that are not congested.

[Paul Scheer]

College Station, Texas, and parts of Phoenix, and they're expanding to Kansas city metro and 30 minutes or less. And the. It's only 4.99 extra to. To get it.

[June Diane Raphael]

But now what can they carry, though?

[Paul Scheer]

Little boxes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, I'm looking like a thumb drive.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes. If they actually ordered a two terabyte thumb drive, it wouldn't have worked. They're cute, they're. They're bulky, and it doesn't seem to make that much sense, honestly. It doesn't seem to make any sense.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Because I think it makes sense in areas that are. Where people are remote.

[Paul Scheer]

Right.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You know, like that. I, that, that it's like it's easier to fly a drone out over.

[June Diane Raphael]

Right.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Agricultural land than it is to send a driver that I get in the cities. Anything like that? Absolutely not. No way.

[Paul Scheer]

I mean, wow. Oh, wow.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But I mean, like, when I drive around Los Angeles, the city that we all live in, and I see those little guys, those little robots driving around with googly eyes on them or whatever, I'm like, oh, I've already acclimated to this. I've already acclimated to driving around a city. And there's just not. Just now, not just robots driving around with, I guess, food in them or whatever, instant card or whatever, but also the waymos driverless cars on the road. I've just, I'm just normalized to now. I still haven't been in one, but I love it.

[June Diane Raphael]

Great.

[Paul Scheer]

I see. I. But I'm also a person who doesn't understand that little robot. Like, I don't.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

The delivery robot.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. I don't get why. Like, it just seems to me like it's not going to get there quickly and what am I ordering?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And to me they just look like. I feel like people must be using them as toilets.

[Paul Scheer]

It's. Well, then they'll have a. They'll have some photo. They will have a video of you in it. And I think then you have to pay for it. I think that's the. That's.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Hey, that sounds. That's a. That's a service I would sign up for.

[Paul Scheer]

This is a movie.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Can I interrupt you for just one second? I'm so sorry, Paul. Just to go back to the robots. June, what's up? Would you have ever imagined a world in which. When you said, what is its mission about the BB8 robot God.

[June Diane Raphael]

Some.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

So that is rolling around on screen in Star wars and then the little toy in your home that now we live in a world where you regularly drive past robots on the streets of Los Angeles and. And actually, like, what is its mission?

[June Diane Raphael]

The way that the robots. The Los Angeles robots move is very similar.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

The Lars.

[June Diane Raphael]

The Lars. It's very similar to BB8.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[June Diane Raphael]

You know, and it seems none of us do know what its mission is. I don't know what they're delivering.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah. No. I think hot diarrhea.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah. I don't know if it's just like if it's. It's food or what's in there.

[Paul Scheer]

I was having lunch the other day and one just drove right by me. And then we also were in a car the other day where it was causing a traffic intersection backup. Remember the.

[June Diane Raphael]

The.

[Paul Scheer]

The driver is screaming at it. Which I was like, that doesn't really help because it's. I don't think that they're taking that in. I hope. I don't know, by the way.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Good, good. That the residents of LA are having road rage against the robots and not each other. Thank you.

[Paul Scheer]

But I will just say that, you know, was this movie on your radar at all? Because this has been a movie that for the last two weeks I have been getting nonstop text messages about people like, have you seen it? Because this is a movie that had a zero on Rotten Tomato, a very hard feat to do. Has now moved up to 3%. But it is. But a zero is a shocking. For Rotten Tomatoes, a pretty shocking thing. And that was a big talk about it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Wow.

[Paul Scheer]

On release it had a zero. And I think that people are watching it to be like, well, what could it be? And here's what I'll report. Whatever you think, if you've not seen it and you've just listened to us, it will still shock you. Like even everything that we've just revealed here, it will still shock you. Because in this movie there are things we can't even get to. All of the things that are confounding, like the idea you were saying, drop down menus, these type in sometimes search words where it's like terrorists house, you know, Prius.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

There's so many. Yeah, there's so many good things like that that are just both what are. What's available in his dropdown menus and also what he can type in that is immediately then realized.

[Paul Scheer]

And all of this is happening in real time. So like they are activating warships, planes are dropping out of the sky. But like this movie happens in 90. This is 90 minutes or it is 12 hours, I don't know because we never see a time jump.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

There are no obvious time cuts. But time, I believe does pass. You know, there's one. Not much.

[June Diane Raphael]

There's one. And I don't remember when it was, but they're waiting for something and it's like 1:46 and then it's 2:17. It's like there's one.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, wow. There's about 30 minute. 30 minutes. All right, so there's 30 minutes of unaccounted for. So in that time it's when everybody.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

In the movie goes and has a dump. I would love it if there was just minutes of the movie where it was just webcam of an empty chair. And finally, Ice Cube returns from the bathroom.

[Paul Scheer]

Damn, what did I miss?

[June Diane Raphael]

I have to say, I liked Ice Cube with the gray hair and gray beard.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, he's great.

[Paul Scheer]

I like him in a little sweater vest and a shirt.

[June Diane Raphael]

He's great. And I thought he did a hell of a job for one, what he.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Had to do, and I wrote down repeatedly throughout that Everybody's working so hard at an impossible task. To act, not just to act against nothing, but to act against nothing. But have the stakes be so high is impossible to. To have it be a world war event. And you're just trying to communicate the stakes and severity and scope, but via webcam is absurd. Without any scenic partner, without anybody to work off of or work with, it's just punishing. I felt like. And everybody's doing their best.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yes.

[Paul Scheer]

And I will say this. I have no problem with the acting in this movie whatsoever. It really is how insane it is because when that kid says, I will fly the Amazon drone to your office, he like, I. I believe, like, I love that side game. I love his son. Like, when his son is like, dad, let me tell you something, Dad, I gotta tell you something. And now I do think that they tease the audience. Like, I'm like, oh, he's disruptor. He's like, daddy, you gotta know what's going on. You don't tell me about what I need to know.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Click.

[Paul Scheer]

You know, it's like, I'm like, well, we should have just played that up, that little twist a little bit.

[June Diane Raphael]

Like, he needed to pay a little bit more attention to his son overall.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes. His son didn't seem to be as monitored as much as his daughter, the dog daughter.

[June Diane Raphael]

It was a little creepy.

[Paul Scheer]

Seems like he's got something weird going on there. He doesn't want her to maybe, like, she fell in. Like, she became like a substitute for his wife. And now, you know, on some level, you know, not like, you know, just like, he's being overly protective of her.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, yeah, he's definitely monitoring her quite a bit more.

[Paul Scheer]

Because, I mean, to think about him being on Facebook so much, but not responding to a Facebook friend request from four years ago.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like, if you. Here's what I'd like.

[June Diane Raphael]

Request from.

[Paul Scheer]

From the baby daddy, from the.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes. From Mark.

[June Diane Raphael]

Why does he hate Mark so much?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Because Mark calls him Pops when Mark.

[Paul Scheer]

When he goes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Also, Mark did raw dog his daughter.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, but willingly. It was a. It was a consensual raw dog.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

Like for conception, I would imagine.

[June Diane Raphael]

You know, why he hated.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

We don't know that so much.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, and also, like, when everything he does seems to be like, okay, sir, I'm on it. Like, yeah. He says, get to her office, whatever it is, wherever her lab is, get to that. And he's like, on it. On my way. It was. It wasn't like a question. It was like, on my way. That guy leaves his Amazon, but he's working.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Okay, so Ice Cube and his son are shown to be expert hacker computer people. Right? They are. They can breach any firewall. They can get into any system. Whatever it takes, they can do it. But at the end of the movie, when Ice Cube has to run down to the Goliath Room or whatever it is, his daughter who has to do all of the hacking.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And she's mounting the computer, and I couldn't figure that out. Why is she now in charge of disabling security systems and. And finding the key code and blah, blah, blah.

[June Diane Raphael]

Well, I don't know. I mean, the other main issue I had with that key code is like, okay, now we're. We're to understand that this is 40ft below the actual Department of Homeland Security. And Goliath is here, and it is like the most important piece of data that we have. And they. They have a camera facing the keypad. Yes, facing the keypad. And they are able to find out that password in less than 30 seconds immediately.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

So wild. Wouldn't it have been funny how. How great. This is my pitch for the movie. Wouldn't it have been great? And maybe one of our listeners will compile a. A trailer for this movie that is this. That when. When he gets. When he finally breaches and gets into the Goliath room. It is just Billy Bob Thornton from the Amazon prime show Goliath. It is just. What's in there is only the Amazon Prime TV series Goliath all seasons.

[Paul Scheer]

I would have liked it if in a moment he's like, this is too stressful. And he pops on Bosch. Gotta watch Ballard.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He's like, I gotta watch my Ballard. I need her to solve cold case faces. Please, please, can I be on Ballard?

[Paul Scheer]

Guys, just.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

If you're listening, Ballard. I just want to be on.

[Paul Scheer]

June has heard me ask about Ballard to all the Amazon execs, and they're always obsessed. We're. We're not. Yeah, they were like, why are you talking to us about this?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like, oh, yeah, let me be Ballard. Please, guys, let me be on Ballard. I just wanted. I just want to just help Maggie Q or fight Maggie Q. I. I just want to know what's up. I just want Renee Ballard. Call me.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, my gosh. All right, so let's take a look. Obviously, people had opinions about this movie. A lot of negative ones. But there are people out there that had a different opinion. It is now time for second opinions. Don't trust the mainstream for information. Don't trust Grammarly for punctuation. Don't trust the surgeon to make incision. Check out Amazon user reviews. Get a second opinion. Second opinions. Second opinions. Thank you, Ben Lee, for that amazing song. We don't get to hear it a lot, but I always love it. Amazon. This is an Amazon prime movie. When we watched it, it was number six. Six of the most watched things on Amazon ever. Well, in the top 10 right now, like in the area.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I see what you mean.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. And so far it already has almost 3,000 reviews and 15% of them are five star reviews. This first one is from Liam and The title is Ice Cube has done It Again. I like Ice Cube. I like when the President said, I hereby initiate a war of the Worlds. And everyone clapped. And I was happy to see the man next to the tent reject a year's worth of free Internet in return for picking up a drone in the middle of a field of lasers, but quickly changing his mind for a thousand Amazon bucks. I thought that was very realistic. Personally, if someone offered me a thousand dollars in Amazon bucks, I pretty much do anything they told me, including risking my life.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, Liam.

[June Diane Raphael]

Oh, this is Stark. Okay, so.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, Liam.

[Paul Scheer]

Some may say this movie wasn't very good. Do not listen to them. A lot of people don't like aliens and they give bad reviews to Alien movies. There's also a part of the movie where they try to drop two nuclear bombs on top Ice Cube. But luckily he saved himself with three seconds to spare. Lots of suspenseful moments and even a heart touching ending. Five stars.

[June Diane Raphael]

I don't. Dropping nuclear bombs.

[Paul Scheer]

I don't.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I don't either.

[Paul Scheer]

Liam is watching this in a different. Liam is also out there thinking that people are bombing. Like critic bombing Alien movies. Like.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, I also don't use the term heart touching.

[Paul Scheer]

No, heart touching is not. Not a thing.

[June Diane Raphael]

Nobody's ever used it.

[Paul Scheer]

Phil K. Writes surprisingly gripping and good.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Wait, is it Phil K. Dick?

[Paul Scheer]

Yes. That's. That's why it makes this one. Really? Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Cool.

[Paul Scheer]

Surprisingly gripping and good showing. Tools we all had to learn to use during COVID Combined with some fancy, probably fictional government tech, it made this movie even more urgent. The way this combines all types of conspiracy theories, UAP disclosure, privacy concerns, anonymous disruptor, et cetera, it actually stands out as a representation of the frantic times we are living in. Time that could become even more frantic. Once you let the format sink in, it's hard to switch off.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Wow.

[Paul Scheer]

Quite an original take on an old story. And in a way even scarier because it hits closer to home. It also shows us how much we live in a corporate world. And the film did not shy away from showing that. Five stars.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Incredible.

[Paul Scheer]

Like, they think that that was like a corporate takedown.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah. I wonder, for this new generation, is this movie their independence day?

[Paul Scheer]

It might be.

[June Diane Raphael]

Oh, God.

[Paul Scheer]

This one is from an Untitled person. I think the truth is people are uncomfortable talking about the potential of something going wrong at the hands of our leadership. People are uncomfortable with the return of Jesus.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Okay.

[Paul Scheer]

And the end of the world. And people are definitely uncomfortable seeing a black family save the world world. So it could be subconscious, but it's definitely true. This is a good movie with a profound message that left you with something to think about. Not like those vulgar movies that people get excited about. The title, the Truth about the low ratings.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Five stars. Wow.

[Paul Scheer]

Snuck in the Jesus thing in there a little bit. Like, I don't think this movie had that kind of.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I was like, where. Where are you seeing Jesus inside of this? I would love that.

[Paul Scheer]

And then it just finally goes here from Amazon customer. Amazing cyber evasion movie. I think it means invasion. Yeah, the acting was amazing and I like how it was directed with all the video chatting, et cetera. Five stars. And that is just a sampling of some of the five star reviews of this film. I mean, maybe big government is taking it down. Maybe this is like that movie with Will Smith and the football players where he was talking about CTE and the NFL kind of squash. Yeah, the concussion movie. This is maybe. Maybe big government is making us not enjoy this. They kind of hacked into Rotten Tomatoes somehow.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I do believe that the government in this movie is operating more coherently than the government we're currently living under.

[Paul Scheer]

Is all I'm saying is if Ice Cube can get into anything, he could definitely hack Rotten Tomatoes. And maybe there's a. There's an analyst out there jacking up scores, dropping down scores, you know, he may not like, you know, she Hulk and just getting in there and putting his own issues with it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Review bombing. The woke. The woke. Superhero movies.

[June Diane Raphael]

I mean, we still. Despite Rotten Tomatoes or. No, we saw what we saw. Yeah, we saw what we saw. And it is something to see. Like, that's the thing about this movie. I will give it, first of all, nice hour and a half.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. Oh, nice.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

The time on this was perfect.

[June Diane Raphael]

Perfect. And you know, it is so wild that it is absolutely something to behold.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes, yes.

[June Diane Raphael]

Even if you just watch the opening, just the opening until those meteors come.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Crashing down for sure. And. But the other thing I will say is we didn't talk about. And I'm curious because I am, as we know, childless. And you guys are not, as we've established, Paul does know your son.

[Paul Scheer]

But Jason, I've offered it to you multiple times. You can. We have two. So you could take one again.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That is such a strange offer. What did you think of the letter he writes to his children at the end of the movie, actually, that he's trying to write throughout the movie, but then succeeds and sends at the end.

[Scott]

Dear Faith and Dave, being a parent is hard. If I don't tell you this stuff now, I Might not be able to tell you later. Protecting my kids was the most important part of my life. But I held on too long. I was afraid to let you guys grow up. Please forgive my trespasses. I promised mom I'd keep you safe. But you ended up saving me. And your mom would be so proud of her. Her children. I know. It's true that if I make it through this, it'll be because of you guys. Just remember, I'm with you always.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It got me. It got me other.

[June Diane Raphael]

I actually. Yes, I. I did. I. I liked what he said. I was so curious about the way that he wrote it. And I think it's because he's so used to like short missives and, And. And coding, but. But there's not a paragraph to be found in that.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

No, it's all disjointed sentences, single sentence ideas.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, he's. I mean, he is saving the world at the same time.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He does not. He does not have emotional growth. And that's part of it.

[June Diane Raphael]

Well, he does end up at the shower at the end, but I see.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

With Eva Longoria and he wore the shirt, the grandpa shark shirt.

[June Diane Raphael]

He wore the shirt. But what would have helped his growth, I think, is if he ultimately needed to turn off surveillance on his daughter. If he.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Or to like, delete the ex wife.

[June Diane Raphael]

The dead wife, let go of her. And to assume that she's going to be okay. And the decisions she makes, like he's not helping her. That never really happens.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Wouldn't it have been awesome? And now this is not the movie that we saw. Obviously, if the machines come in because they have so much access to the data, what if they started sending him messages that sounded like they were from his dead wife?

[Paul Scheer]

Whoa.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You know what I mean?

[Paul Scheer]

Like, she's been in the data that.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

We'Re living in, where AI can spoof any of us because it has access to so many hours of our voices or whatever. AI is so powerful, the world we live in, people are being deceived by AI versions of the people they love.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Wouldn't that have been interesting if the way the machines were trying to obfuscate what they were doing was to have his. Suddenly his phone rings and it's his. His dead wife.

[June Diane Raphael]

Well, but here again, I ask you, what do the machines actually want to do?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Exactly.

[Paul Scheer]

But they don't. That's the thing. They don't want to do anything because they're not interested in deceiving. They just want to drink the milkshake. Like we are 711 and they're coming to drink our data Slurpees. Like, that's it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Okay, okay. So. So this is a big drink. So for you, this is about drinking?

[Paul Scheer]

This is a drink.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Milkshakes or Slurpees?

[Paul Scheer]

Ye.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like, when guys are coming to drink.

[Paul Scheer]

When Dan Daniel Day Lewis says, I drink your milkshake. You put that in this movie. It's like, that's what the aliens are like, I drink your milkshake.

[June Diane Raphael]

Is it to drink our milkshake or is it to survive off of it? Or what is it? What is.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Are they taking it somewhere or.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah, they're doing a better version of what we tried to do here.

[Paul Scheer]

No, they just are coming to take a drink. It's like we go to a place with a beach to go swimming. They're like, oh, that planet's got a lot of good data.

[June Diane Raphael]

So it's for fun.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You think this is a vacation?

[Paul Scheer]

I think it's like, hey, it's like a buffet. We're a buffet. And they're going from place to place. Doesn't bring you.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

So when we vacation, we go to, like, museums. So they ch. They pick vacation spots for data centers.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yes.

[Paul Scheer]

And it's like, I think in my mind, it's like. It's like Brainiac. Doesn't Brainiac go around from, like, planet to planet and suck up all their knowledge and then keeps them in little glass jars like the city?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

You know, Know that's what's going on here. This is. These are thirsty aliens.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I wish I knew what the aliens plan was. I would have enjoyed. Like, that's part of the thing is they're up against an antagonist that is just so. So inscrutable and so unknowable.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yes. You know, never even really get to see what they look like.

[Paul Scheer]

Nope, nope.

[June Diane Raphael]

It's always grainy. They do break off into a capsule at one point, which I thought was cool, but, like, we don't even get to really see them.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, they couldn't afford that.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And also, like, none of the information. When he opens the Goliath files and we have, obviously these machines have been here. It doesn't help him at all. It's not like, oh, from the 30s, we discovered that they are allergic to, you know, pollen or whatever. None of it. None of it works or happen or helps. It's.

[Paul Scheer]

I mean, just. Thankfully, his daughter was working on this other virus, the cannibal virus. I mean, I guess all this.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Thank God, they are, as a family, so singular in each of their abilities and positions. It's crazy.

[Paul Scheer]

It really, really is. And I guess the question is, would you recommend this movie to other people to watch?

[June Diane Raphael]

As I said, there is something to. It is. So again, if only for the first 15 minutes. Yeah, I think this is worth getting your eyes on.

[Paul Scheer]

I had no problem watching it. I will say, even at a tight.

[June Diane Raphael]

90, it went down pretty smooth.

[Paul Scheer]

It went down smooth. But there were until that, that third act kicks in. Like, I was like, there's like a little bit of a time where you're like, okay, well, what's happening next? And then once, once we get into the Amazon prime, once we get into the Tesla, honestly, yes, we're in great shape. But there's a little bit of time in between.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

This is the kind of movie that I think absolutely, for the sake of the episode, watch it. But also, like, this is the kind of movie that you can watch it while you're making coffee in the morning.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like, it does not demand you, you turn out the lights and sit down and give it your full attention. It's, it's, it, it's okay in the background and you'll enjoy it enough and it will be good for the episode. For, for this, you need to see.

[Paul Scheer]

You need to see some of it. And I, I, I highly recommend everybody in it. I cannot wait to see Andrea Savage. We have a lunch planned and I am gonna find out every detail I possibly can about it. And I'm sure she's also being inundated.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

As people so curious.

[Paul Scheer]

Jason, June, you want to plug anything? June, what do you got?

[June Diane Raphael]

Well, I don't know if it's, I don't know if Weapons is still in the movie theaters, but if it is, I definitely recommend that movie and going to see it. It's so much fun to watch with an audience.

[Paul Scheer]

Really great movie. So much fun. Jason, what about you?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You know what? I don't really have anything, but I'll shout out Taskmaster Season 19. It's on YouTube now, so check it out.

[Paul Scheer]

I love it. I will shout out Dark Web Every Monday on YouTube. Me and Rob. You will totally free everybody. Thank you for listening. And if you have questions, concerns, observations that we didn't quite get to give me a call at 619p a u l a S K or just go to our Discord at Discord GG hdtgm because last looks, we will break down all of them or as many that are interesting. And last but not least, I gotta thank our entire team for whom the show could not be done without. I am talking about our producers, Scott Sahni and Molly Reynolds, our movie picking producer, Avril Halley and our engineer Casey Holford. All right, guys, we'll see you next time.

[June Diane Raphael]

See you next time.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

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[Paul Scheer]

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[Jason Mantzoukas]

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[Paul Scheer]

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[Jason Mantzoukas]

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