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How I Invest with David Weisburd | Episode 283 | January 15, 2026
Guest: Richard Socher, Co-founder & CEO of U.com, Founding Partner at AIX Ventures

Episode Overview

David Weisburd sits down with Richard Socher, noted AI researcher and entrepreneur, to explore the rapidly evolving role of artificial intelligence in enterprise, investing, and the global economy. The discussion ranges from practical enterprise use cases to philosophical questions about AGI (artificial general intelligence), societal adaptation to automation, the future of work, the US-China AI rivalry, and the best advice for the next generation. Richard brings an optimistic but clear-eyed view, grounded in deep technical expertise and entrepreneurial experience.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

U.com and the Search for Better AI ([00:00]–[01:54])

• U.com’s Unique Approach:

  • Richard explains that U.com, a unicorn AI search engine, outperforms larger players like OpenAI in particular areas by focusing on specialized data and infrastructure.
  • "The best research is done when you have the most amount of data... having the right data and search infrastructure backend is how you get any agent to move above the slop that LLMs often produce above the sort of average mediocre outputs."
    – Richard Socher [00:17]

• Enterprise Integration:

  • U.com supports a variety of clients, from consumer-scale companies making hundreds of millions of API calls to legal and coding agent applications (e.g., Windsurf for code, AI legal research, etc.).

The Marginal Cost of Intelligence & Labor Market Effects ([01:54]–[05:29])

• Intelligence for All:
  • Richard predicts a world where basic intelligence services (tutoring, healthcare advice, personal assistance) become accessible for everyone, much as machines democratized food production during the Industrial Revolution.
  • "If enough humans are baseline creatures, we always adapt to whatever it's our baseline, and then we want a little bit more. Most people want a little bit more after that baseline." – Richard Socher [02:44]
  • The spread of AI will be just as disruptive—transitioning human labor toward more creative and high-agency roles, with significant societal adaptation required.

AI Agents: Timing and Impact ([05:29]–[08:40])

• Are AI Agents Overhyped or Underestimated?

  • There's a difference between hype cycles and real economic transformation:
  • "The truth as always, is somewhere in, in the gray middle... AI is already changing different industries... the people and the organizations that use AI and really lean in are slowly starting to pull away from the people and organizations that don't." – Richard Socher [05:39]
  • In five years, it will be as unacceptable in knowledge work to not be proficient with AI agents as it is today to not use computers or the Internet.

• Enterprise Use Cases:

  • Programming (Windsurf), legal work automation (Harvey), AI-driven architectural design (Iloca), hyper-local journalism, consumer apps, and more.

Investing in AI: Principles and Timing ([08:42]–[13:45])

• AIX Ventures:

  • Early investments in companies like Hugging Face, Perplexity, Ambience, Whisper Flow, and Windsurf.
  • Mental model: focus on “the X”—applications, infrastructure, and verticals with data-rich environments ripe for AI disruption ("Techbio," in particular).

• What Makes a Great AI Founder?

  • Resilience, intellectual horsepower, a bias for action, and the right mix of stubbornness/adaptability.
  • "You have to just like work super duper hard. And so we look at strong founders that have those, that sort of not giving up attitude and are really smart and work on the right things." – Richard Socher [11:04]

• First Principles Investing:

  • Look for industries where the bottleneck is intelligence and data is abundant or can be collected efficiently.
  • Timing is everything—success requires matching technical breakthroughs to real-world readiness and adoption.

Regulation, Geopolitics, and Societal Risks ([15:29]–[20:08])

• Regulating AI: What (and Who) Actually Needs Oversight?

  • Socher dismisses both extreme pessimism (AI apocalypse) and excessive optimism.
  • As AI apps become more impactful (medicine, self-driving cars), sector-specific regulation is essential—regulate application, not "intelligence" itself.
  • "You don't want to regulate math, regulate intelligence... European Union has so many unfortunate regulations... that destroy their entire AI economy before it could even start." – Richard Socher [15:29]

• US vs. China in the AI Race:

  • China excels in scaling, efficiency, and intense competition but lags in radical innovation due to risk aversion and cultural factors.
  • "Countries and places that allow for some failure... are more conducive like Silicon Valley... The US pulls in a lot of amazing people from all over the world... that will continue to be a big driving factor for the US." – Richard Socher [19:18]

The Path to AGI and Superintelligence ([20:08]–[24:03])

• Are We Already at AGI?

  • By many practical definitions, broad general intelligence is here.
  • "Depending on how you define AGI, we're already there. Like these models are quite general... it's pretty incredible." – Richard Socher [20:22]

• Key to Superintelligence:

  • AI will achieve superhuman performance in domains with perfect simulation or verifiable feedback—games, math, programming.
  • "As we can build verifiable programs with AI that will disrupt the entire digital economy in very exciting ways." – Richard Socher [22:37]

Risks, Downside Scenarios, and the Paperclip Problem ([22:37]–[26:24])

• Omni-use Technology—Benefits and Dangers:

  • AI is as powerful, and as context-dependent, as the Internet or electricity. Potential for abuse, particularly in military and biology, is real and must be regulated.

• Paperclip Maximizer Thought Experiment:

  • Socher sees existential threat concerns as overblown—proper reward engineering and common sense dramatically reduce plausible risks.
  • “If you’re this stupid to give an AI that is super intelligent the reward to only maximize paperclips, then... you probably wouldn't be given access to billions of dollars worth of compute to actually accomplish something.” – Richard Socher [25:16]

Advice for the Future Generation ([26:24]–[29:36])

• What Should Students Learn?

  • Computer science remains crucial—logic, reasoning, and understanding technology reduce "magic" and grant agency.
  • Combine CS with an applied domain such as biology, physics, medicine, or even philosophy.
  • "Computer science should be kind of like math and physics in high school. Every high school should teach skills to program." – Richard Socher [27:27]

• Constructive Optimism and Agency:

  • One must internalize the ability to “just do things”—embrace possibility and develop agency beyond just intelligence.
  • “Develop a certain amount of agency that they can, quote, unquote, just do things... Sometimes you have to be in the right place at the right time.” – Richard Socher [29:44]

Personal Interests and Closing ([28:32]–[30:54])

• Personal Projects:

  • Recently wrote a book: The Eureka Machine: AI for Science.
  • Exploring the frontiers of recursive self-improving intelligence, aiming to use AI to accelerate scientific discovery.

• For fun:

  • Used to enjoy paramotoring when time allows: "A beautiful hobby... enabling you to see the world from the most incredible vantage points." – Richard Socher [29:21]

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "The largest GDP driver for developed economies in the world will be AI... the people and the organizations that use AI and really lean in are slowly starting to pull away from the people and organizations that don't." – Richard Socher [05:39]
• "AI is kind of like an omni use technology... It’s like a hammer or the Internet. The Internet can be used for wonderful things... but it can also be used to share horrific content." – Richard Socher [22:40]
• “If you’re right and ahead of your time, you’re called a visionary. As a startup founder, if you’re right but ahead of your time, your company is just dead.” – Richard Socher [16:39]
• “I think the biggest thing we need to teach our kids outside of being intelligent, is to develop a certain amount of agency that they can, quote, unquote, just do things.” – Richard Socher [29:44]

Timestamps for Critical Segments

• [00:00] U.com, AI benchmarks, and search infrastructure
• [01:54] The marginal cost of intelligence, social and labor implications
• [05:29] State of AI agents and productivity
• [07:39] Enterprise use cases for AI agents
• [08:50] AIX Ventures and investing in AI
• [13:45] First principles for investing/predicting AI impact
• [15:29] AI regulation—scope and pitfalls
• [18:09] US–China AI rivalry and cultural factors
• [20:22] Are we at AGI and what about superintelligence?
• [22:37] Potential areas for superintelligence and associated risks
• [25:16] Dismissing the “paperclip problem”
• [26:42] What should the next generation of students learn?
• [28:40] Personal projects, future ambitions, and fun
• [29:44] Timeless advice to a young entrepreneur

Summary Takeaways

Richard Socher provides a broad, optimistic yet grounded outlook on the role of AI in global markets and daily life. He dispels both utopian and dystopian myths, rooting his investment and technological philosophies in data, practical value, and first principles thinking. For investors, founders, and the new generation, the message is clear: AI competency and agency will be required in the future of work; the dogged, constructive optimist will thrive; and the next revolutions will come from marrying technical skills with creative and resilient application.