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Episode #277: Jimmy Roberts – Curiosity Builds Connection
Release Date: February 5, 2026
Guest: Jimmy Roberts, Emmy Award-winning broadcaster, NBC & Golf Channel
Host: David Novak

Episode Overview

This special episode, timed for the eve of the 2026 Winter Olympics, features a deeply insightful conversation with Jimmy Roberts, an acclaimed broadcaster and storyteller for NBC and Golf Channel. Across more than four decades, Roberts has shaped the way millions experience the Olympics and sports by focusing on storytelling, curiosity, and the human side of competition. The discussion explores how curiosity cultivates connection, lessons in leadership from legends, the power of compassion, fighting complacency, and the value of asking good questions—offering wisdom relevant to leaders in any field.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

The Power of Storytelling & Connection

• Roberts' Unique View on Sports:
  • Jimmy distinguishes himself from other sports broadcasters by focusing on personal stories, not just stats or scores.
  • Quote: “To me it’s always the stories… That’s why the Olympics have always been so successful. Because we end up caring about Romanian weightlifters and Japanese table tennis players.” (01:17)
• The “Up Close and Personal” Legacy:
  • Originated by Rune Arledge at ABC Sports to foster deeper connections with audiences by profiling lesser-known athletes. (01:17–02:58)
  • Key takeaway: Caring about people’s stories deepens audience investment.

Leadership Lessons from Icons

• Rune Arledge (ABC Sports):
  • Fearless visionary, but also collaborative and inclusive.
  • Quote: “He had an idea…and this is what he wanted to execute. But...he wanted your perspective, he wanted your help, and it was very clear that you were part of his team.” (03:23)
• Mark Messier (NHL Hall of Famer):
  • True leadership is about elevating teammates. Roberts recounts how Messier had a suit custom-made overnight for newcomer Darren Langdon to help him feel confident and included.
  • Quote: “If you have someone who’s a teammate, and you need them, why wouldn’t you want them to feel as good about themselves as they possibly could?” (04:54–08:36)

Finding and Telling the Best Stories

• Curiosity Drives Discovery:
  • When arriving at an Olympics, Jimmy looks for the unusual and overlooked stories rather than headline moments.
  • Favorite story: Eric "the Eel" Musambani, a swimmer from Equatorial Guinea whose slow-but-spirited solo race won hearts at the Sydney Olympics.
  • Quote: “Could you do it? I don’t know if I could, but I love that story…to me that was the Olympics.” (08:50–11:16)

Lessons from Early Career and Personal Life

• Staying Grounded in Big Moments:
  • First Olympics experience in Lake Placid shaped his perspective—stressing the importance of keeping your feet on the ground.
  • Advice from Al Trautwig: “However slowly you think you’re speaking, you’re not speaking anywhere near as slowly as you think you’re speaking.” (11:30–15:18)
  • “Try less hard” insight: Sometimes success requires relaxing and untrying, not pushing harder—parable via golf coaching (Harvey Penick).
  • Quote: “Sometimes the answer is to try less hard. Now I just think that's genius.” (13:42–15:18)

Formative Moments from Youth

• Instinct to “Share the Ball”:
  • Childhood lacrosse memory: Choosing to pass rather than hold on as instructed, leading to a tie rather than a win.
  • Quote: “It may not have worked out that time, but I know that’s the right instinct. To share the ball.” (17:48)
• Family Ethics and True North:
  • Parents instilled a strong sense of morality and “doing what’s right”, which still guides him. (18:20–19:46)

Breaking Into Broadcasting

• Path to ESPN:
  • Started writing and producing off-camera, hesitated to be public-facing, then transitioned after company restructuring forced him to self-assess.
  • Early ESPN days: “[...] The woman said, S, P, N. What is that? Now can you imagine? That’s like...can you imagine there’s anybody in America, sports fan or not, who doesn’t know what ESPN is now?” (20:02–23:30)
• Learning Through Obscurity:
  • Starting at a then-obscure ESPN allowed him to fail and learn out of the spotlight.

Navigating Tough Questions as a Journalist

• Ethics vs. Relationships:
  • The necessity of asking difficult, potentially relationship-straining questions to serve the public.
  • Quote: “Your job is to represent people on the couch... You have to be respectful... but that doesn’t mean that there aren’t questions to ask.” (23:50–26:43)
• Fairness in Interviewing:
  • Citing Tom Callahan: “My objective is fair to you, true to me.” (23:50–26:43)
• Handling Fallout:
  • Losing Fuzzy Zoeller’s friendship after commenting honestly on a controversy, and having no regrets about standing by his values. (26:43–27:55)
• Evolving as a Leader:
  • Constantly learning, embracing ignorance as an opportunity, and incorporating new influences and skills. (28:11)

Diversity of Experience and Discipline

• Perspective from Broad Experiences:
  • Covering different sports and events (Olympics, Super Bowls, fights) builds nuanced, diverse perspectives. (29:47–30:57)
• Keys to Elite Performance:
  • Three essentials: Work hard, get organized, be prepared.
  • Quote: “When I’m in front of a camera, I want to make sure I am prepared...be organized... That creates a sense of confidence and calm in me.” (31:13–34:44)

Navigating AI & Modern Skills

• Skepticism and Opportunity:
  • Cautiously approaches AI—sees potential as a research and preparation tool but wary of over-reliance.
  • Encourages continued focus on writing and thinking to stay unique as automation grows. (35:14–37:08)

Fighting Complacency & Staying Energized

• Letting the Story “Tap You on the Shoulder”:
  • Staying excited by being open to new stories; recalls helping get an innocent man (Valentino Dixon) released, and meaningful Olympics stories.
  • Quote: “You gotta make sure that you’re not phoning it in… I don’t think you’ll see [those who do] really rise to the top.” (37:27–39:43)

Insights on Leadership from the World of Golf

• Augusta National’s Leadership by Principle, Not Profit:
  • Praises Augusta for being “willing to leave money on the table in order to do things the way they think are right.” (39:59)
• Change Management & Golf’s Evolution:
  • PGA vs. LIV: Suggests PGA initially erred by not hearing LIV out; admires current direction to respect tradition while innovating. (41:37–44:01)

Recognition, Curiosity, and Personal Touches

• Awards and Recognition:
  • Early career: recognition mattered; now, doing quality work and being counted among great writers means more. (44:13–45:25)
• Lightning Round:
  • Words to describe himself: “Energetic. Impatient. Loving.” (45:32)
  • Dream for a day: President of the United States, just to know the pressures. (45:40)
  • Pet peeve: Overuse of “like” and misusing “reticent” for “reluctant.” (46:01)
  • Guilty pleasures: Cooking, learning guitar. (49:08)
  • Most prized possession: Sanity. (50:06)
• On Adversity:
  • Leaders must fight, not surrender, to challenges—applies this learning broadly from his research and book. (51:03)

Curiosity as the Ultimate Leadership Advantage

• The Habit of Deep Listening:
  • Curiosity as a daily driver; fascinated by everyone’s ‘cocktail party’ story.
  • Quote: “I’m just curious. I want to know about people. I’m interested to hear their stories. And that is not an affectation, that’s just me.” (52:35)
  • Advocates for “listening actively,” not just “waiting to talk.”
• Unfinished Business:
  • New venture: Big Swing Media company, focused on golf industry business coverage. (54:22)
• Parting Advice:
  • Compassion counts most. “Compassion goes a long way… If decency governs you… you can sleep at night.” (55:13)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Storytelling & the Olympics:
  • “Everybody has a story, I like to say, but Olympic stories, to me, these are extraordinary people.” (01:17)
• On Leadership and Elevating Others:
  • “If you need your teammate, why wouldn’t you want them to feel as good about themselves as possible?” (08:36)
• On Taking a Breath and Letting Go:
  • “Sometimes the answer is to try less hard.” (13:42)
• On Journalism and Tough Questions:
  • “Fair to you, true to me.” (23:50)
• On Avoiding Complacency:
  • “Not everything is gonna win an Emmy, but I have a responsibility to try my hardest, give it my all.” (37:27)
• On Compassionate Leadership:
  • “There are hard decisions… but I think compassion goes a long way.” (55:13)
• On Listening vs. Speaking:
  • “Some people are listening. Some people are just waiting to talk. Listening is an active skill.” (52:35)

Noteworthy Moments with Timestamps

• The essence of the Olympics and storytelling: 01:17 – 02:58
• Leadership insights from Rune Arledge: 03:13 – 04:42
• Mark Messier’s custom suit act of leadership: 04:54 – 08:36
• Eric “the Eel” Musambani’s Olympic tale: 08:50 – 11:16
• Advice on “untrying” and not forcing success: 13:42 – 15:18
• Handling tough questions in journalism: 23:50 – 26:43
• On building sustained excellence (process/discipline): 31:13 – 34:44
• Augusta National and tradition over profit: 39:59 – 41:37
• Active curiosity and listening as core traits: 52:35 – 54:22
• Jimmy’s parting advice for leaders: 55:13

Practical Takeaways for Leaders

1. Lead with curiosity:

• Ask more questions, actively listen, and be genuinely interested in your team and others’ stories.

2. Recognize and include others:

• Simple acts of support—like Mark Messier’s suit for a teammate—build trust and performance.

3. Prepare and organize:

• Hard work, preparation, and discipline build calm and confidence, especially for high-pressure situations.

4. Stay open and keep learning:

• Embrace ignorance as a path to knowledge; even experienced leaders should always seek to learn and evolve.

5. Lead with compassion:

• Make people feel valued and seen—it costs nothing but yields trust, loyalty, and connection.

Episode Tone and Atmosphere

The conversation is warm, direct, insightful, and full of stories—a blend of locker-room camaraderie and hard-earned life wisdom. Both Roberts and Novak maintain a humble, curious, and approachable tone, keeping the episode engaging and relatable.

For Further Listening

Check out the episode for more on:

• The behind-the-scenes of Olympic broadcasting
• Handling adversity in sports and business
• Tactical leadership tips from business, sports, and journalism

This summary offers a comprehensive distillation of Jimmy Roberts’ appearance on How Leaders Lead, equipping listeners and non-listeners alike with personal stories, leadership strategies, and actionable wisdom—just in time for the Olympic season.