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Thomas Chatterton Williams is a writer from New Jersey, currently living in France. He's on staff at The Atlantic and a professor at Bard College. His newest book, Summer of Our Discontent: The Age of Certainty and the Demise of Discourse, is out soon. We chat about Katy Perry and Justin Trudeau on a date in Canada, his dad has never boiled a pot of water, we talk about Twitter for 20 minutes, all the magazines he's written for, the childlike wonder for space exploration, we rank some religious monuments, the emotional effect of incorrect electrical outlets, vaxxed at Dodger's Stadium, and we talk politics for 20 minutes.

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827. - Thomas Chatterton Williams

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