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Melissa Auf der Maur is a musician and bass player best known for bands like Hole and the Smashing Pumpkins. Her new memoir, Even the Good Girls Will Cry, is out next week.

We chat with Melissa from her home in upstate New York about the new Apple laptop, Montreal vibes, Grimes and Elon, channeling the gods on stage, shooting a roll of film a day in the ’90s, Courtney writing “slut” on her stomach, the time MTV asked her to take The Verve to Tom & Jerry’s, when musicians make their best work at their most fucked-up, Canadian ayahuasca retreats, owning Bo Burnham on vinyl, and gently prodding around a Hole reunion one day, and getting back in the studio with Courtney.

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