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Hrishikesh Hirway is a musician from Los Angeles, best known for his masterful podcast Song Exploder. His new record, In the Last Hour of Light, is out now.

We chat with him about the new Salem x Supreme collection, Pitchfork giving Chris Brown’s new offering a devastating 1.3, our salad days of podcasting, competing with A.I. in both music and podcasts, when the emo band opens for the hardcore band, what happens when doctors and lawyers run in your family but you choose Spotify, exactly how many licks it takes to explode a song, whether songs will have ads one day, the “Ratatouille moment” when a singer hears their original recording from decades ago, and which podcasts Hrishikesh is listening to.

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