Adam sat down with drummer Jay Epstein, who has been a full time drummer since the late 1960s when he toured with the band Gypsy and rubbed shoulders with people in the Southern California Rock scene like Jimmy Hendricks while going out to see bands with players like Chick Corea, Freddie Hubbard and Miles Davis on his off nights. Adam and Jay talk about the economics of being a full time, life-long musician. Jay gives us three things young musicians should be thinking about as they start their careers, and his three "desert island" albums.

Jay also tells a beautiful story of the impact of hearing John Coltrane as a 17 year old kid that is not to be missed.

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Gypsy band: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-vK3TTHWpM

Jay's Desert Island Albums:

1. Now He Sings, Now He Sobs, Chick Corea

2. Smokin at the Half Note, Wes Montgomery and Wynton Kelly Trio

3. Ballads, John Coltrane

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Interested in hearing music made by our awesome guests? Check out this Spotify playlist, which includes music by all our music-making guests! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/63kUrVwtV5tYFsyqLJHO3a?si=7853ba778dff4654

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Intro/Outro music "Far Away From here" : https://adammeckler.hearnow.com/