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If you've ever wondered how leaders keep going when the work never feels finished, this conversation offers a look behind the curtain.

Claire Louge, Executive Director of Prevent Child Abuse Arizona, joins me to talk about what it looks like to lead change today. In this movingly honest conversation, Claire shares her personal journey moving from chronic self-doubt to developing self-trust, and why transparency has become one of her core values. We explore how her personal journey shaped the way she leads and why she believes leadership should be more accessible, human, and honest. Claire also breaks down what prevention of child abuse actually looks like, including why "the root cause of child abuse and neglect is unsupported people" and how we shift from a culture of surveillance to a culture of support by getting families what they need, when they need it, in their own communities. If you care about building a world where families flourish and children can be who they are and offer their strengths to the world, this episode is for you.

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