Podcast Summary: Hoy por Hoy - El Abierto

SER Podcast | November 6, 2025
Host: Cristina Monge
Collaborators: Ignacio Escolar, Carlos Navarro Antolín, José Precedo, Pedro Jiménez, Josué Coello, David Junquera, María Manjabacas, Estefanía Salvatierra

Overview

This episode of "El Abierto" focuses on two central topics:

• The ongoing judicial investigation into the leak of a key email in the González Amador fiscal case, with particular attention to the testimonies of journalists involved.
• The political fallout in the Comunidad Valenciana after the resignation of President Carlos Mazón, specifically the investigation into his actions during the DANA catastrophe and the subsequent struggle for political succession.

Both topics are analyzed through the lens of journalistic practice, political ethics, credibility, and the interplay of media, justice, and public institutions.

1. Judicial Investigation: The Leak of the González Amador Email

Key Discussion Points

• Testimonies from Journalists (01:48 - 06:52)
  Three journalists (two from eldiario.es and one from La Sexta) testified in the Supreme Court, asserting that they had access to the crucial email admitting fiscal fraud by González Amador’s lawyer before the Fiscal General (Álvaro García Ortiz) did.

  • José Precedo (eldiario.es) described having all relevant documents on March 6th, including the email under investigation, before the Fiscal General received it.
  • The La Sexta journalist confirmed that their report, contradicting El Mundo’s version, was ready five minutes before the Fiscal General obtained the email.

• Journalistic Ethics and Moral Dilemma (03:23 - 04:39)
  Precedo articulated the classic journalistic dilemma of knowing but not being able to reveal a source—especially when knowledge could exonerate someone standing trial.

  “Yo sé quién es la fuente de esta historia. No la voy a decir por secreto profesional... es el dilema moral de que hay una persona a la que se le pide cárcel, que yo sé que es inocente porque conozco la fuente, pero no puedo decir mi fuente.”
  — José Precedo (04:19)

• Credibility of Testimonies (05:24 - 08:05)
  Discussion hinged on whether the court will accept these journalistic testimonies—which contrast with the accusations targeting Moncloa and the Fiscal General.

  • Absence of evidence proving the Fiscal General leaked the email.
  • The focus is now on the press note from the Fiscalía, which some received before official release.

• Legal and Professional Implications
  Panelists debated legal standards:

  • Burden of proof appears inverted—requiring the defendant (Fiscal General) to prove innocence rather than the prosecution to establish guilt.
  • The safeguarding of journalistic sources is not just a right, but an obligation according to professional deontology.

  “Nosotros no solo tenemos el derecho a proteger nuestras fuentes, tenemos la obligación... Cuando explicamos que no es esa persona. Y que tenemos además pruebas en otras redacciones que también tuvieron esa información antes que el Fiscal General del Estado. Eso debería ser suficiente.”
  — Ignacio Escolar (14:12)

• Tensions and Reactions Among the Panel (14:59 - 19:33)

  • Carlos Navarro Antolín expressed skepticism over the erasure of emails and loss of mobile data by institutional actors, fueling suspicion despite absence of direct proof.
  • The differentiation between opinion, testimony, and verifiable fact is debated, reinforcing the need to distinguish between journalistic analysis and sworn statements.

  “Lo que se tiene que probar en el juicio no es si no fue el Fiscal General...”
  — José Precedo (21:55)

Notable Quotes

• “Es una situación tremendamente anómala... para mí todo esto es un proceso literalmente kafkiano, como el proceso de Kafka.”
  — Ignacio Escolar (12:13)

• “El trabajo normal de un periodista... no en todas las oficinas se trabaja igual.”
  — Cristina Monge (09:03)

• “El fiscal general sale a suelto... lo que sí me sigue preocupando es el desprestigio de la Fiscalía, que se hubiera arreglado dimitiendo.”
  — Carlos Navarro Antolín (15:10)

2. Política Valenciana: Mazón, la DANA y la Sucesión

Key Events & Insights

• Investigación Judicial por la Catástrofe de la DANA (26:10 - 32:45)
  The judge investigating the DANA cited new witnesses—including the restaurant owner where Mazón was eating during the disaster and six close associates.

  • Revelations show Mazón signed urgent documents during his meal, contradicting claims that he was unavailable or without coverage.
  • Concerns raised about why nobody from his team intervened to pull him out amid escalating crisis.

  "Demuestra hasta qué punto la gestión fue negligente... su irresponsabilidad empieza ya cuando se va a comer al Ventorro."
  — José Precedo (32:45)

• Política de Comunicación y Dimisiones
  Mazón’s changing narrative, the critical role of his immediate circle, and the lack of a clear succession plan is discussed.

  • His resignation coincided with the start of the Fiscal General’s trial, perceived as poorly managed and politically disadvantageous for the PP.

  “Ha desprestigiado muchísimo la presidencia valenciana. De hecho el PP se presenta en esta situación sin un candidato claro.”
  — Carlos Navarro Antolín (31:05)

• El Control de la Narrativa y el Rol de Vox (36:21 - 46:50)

  • Negotiations to name Mazón’s successor are dominated by Vox, who leverage the instability for ideological influence, focusing on anti-immigration and anti-Green Deal stances.
  • PP is seen as reacting rather than leading, risking further destabilization.

  "Lo que está demostrando... quien controla los tiempos y maneja lo que quiere es Vox."
  — Cristina Monge (32:26) "Vox ha demostrado que aprendió hace tiempo que no le interesa tanto gobernar como ejercer de oposición y ejercer la influencia porque su mirada está, como decía Carlos, en las elecciones generales."
  — Ignacio Escolar (44:44)

• Skepticism Over Democratic Equivalence
  Debate erupts over whether pacts with Vox are comparable to PSOE arrangements with the left, with panelists highlighting the radical, anti-democratic proposals of the far right in contrast.

  "No creo que sea comparable la izquierda del PSOE con Vox, la verdad... hay un matiz diferente que tiene que ver con los derechos democráticos de las personas."
  — José Precedo (46:43)

3. Feijóo’s Policy Missteps: Proposals for Autónomos

Highlights

• Feijóo’s Announced Measures Already Exist (47:49 - 54:37)
  Panel points out that much of Núñez Feijóo’s “contract with autónomos” is comprised of measures either already in Spanish law or pending by European directive (e.g., dual regime compatibility, IVA exemptions up to €85,000).

  “En España se puede ser asalariado... y a la vez ser autónomo. Estos autónomos se les conoce como pluriempleados."
  — Estefanía Salvatierra (49:13)

• Critique of Political and Governmental Handling
  Both the opposition and the government are criticized:

  • The government recently retreated from an unpopular increase in autónomos' quotas due to pressure from associations.
  • Need for greater clarity and educational messaging around tax and social security policy.

  “Al gobierno le reprocho... hay que hacer pedagogía y dar la batalla de los temas fiscales.”
  — Ignacio Escolar (54:37)

4. Juan Carlos I and the Monarchy: Memoir Fallout

Key Moments & Quotes

• Newly Published Memoirs (55:36 - 61:01)
  Juan Carlos I’s memoirs—released in France—spark controversy by criticizing his son, Felipe VI, and other family members, and reflecting on historic grievances.

  “No olvides... que heredas un sistema que yo he construido.”
  — María Manjabacas, quoting Juan Carlos I (56:00)

• Panel Reactions
  Multiple commentators stress the tone-deafness and self-victimization that run throughout the memoir, and the damage such publication does to the monarchy’s public image.

  “No hay nada que haga más daño a la monarquía en España hoy que la figura del Rey Juan Carlos y sus palabras.”
  — Ignacio Escolar (59:07)

5. Catalonia Political Blockade (Junts per Catalunya)

Newsflash

(62:14 - 63:30)

• Junts, via Miriam Nogueras, announces a blanket opposition: enmiendas a la totalidad to 25 government bills and plans to reject the budget, signaling further instability for the national government.

Timestamps for Notable Segments

• Opening & Weather Impact: 00:25 – 01:12
• González Amador Email Leak: Journalist Testimonies: 01:48 – 08:05
• Panel Analysis & Debate on Journalistic Ethics: 09:03 – 24:05
• Valencia DANA Crisis, Mazón’s Conduct: 26:10 – 34:28
• Political Negotiations Post-Mazón, Role of Vox: 36:21 – 46:50
• Feijóo’s Policy Announcements & Factchecking: 47:49 – 54:37
• Juan Carlos I Memoirs Analysis: 55:36 – 61:01
• Junts Announced Legislative Blockade: 62:14 – 63:30

Overall Tone & Takeaways

The tone is engaged, critical, and occasionally exasperated, with frequent emphasis on the separation between lived experience in newsrooms versus political “offices”, and the need for clear ethical boundaries in both journalism and politics. The panel is emphatic about the importance of facts over opinions, journalistic integrity, and the defense of public institutions from disrepute.

End of summary.