Podcast Summary
Hoy por Hoy – Historias musicales | Sabor de Gràcia, con la rumba catalana por el mundo
Host: Àngels Barceló (SER Podcast)
Guest: Antonio Carbonell "Sikus" (Fundador y líder de Sabor de Gràcia)
Air Date: September 19, 2025
Main Theme
This episode celebrates the enduring legacy and modern relevance of the Catalan rumba, through the career and insights of Antonio Carbonell “Sikus,” founder of the band Sabor de Gràcia. The conversation explores rumba’s origins in the Gràcia neighborhood, its evolution, generational changes, and the ongoing efforts to bring it global recognition—and the music itself brings warmth and humor to the heart of the show.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
The Roots and Personal Genesis of Sabor de Gràcia
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Sikus’ Early Musical Influence
- Grew up in Barcelona's Gràcia neighborhood, surrounded by music from a young age.
- First musical experiences were informal, singing on the family balcony at age seven to applause from passersby.
- Quote: “Mi abuelo, que está en la gloria, me regaló una guitarra y a los siete años... me sentaba en una silla y cantaba en el balcón... la gente pasaba por la calle y me aplaudía y yo esto es lo que me gusta.” (03:28)
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Not Born Into Music but Steeped in Its Culture
- Sikus emphasizes not being from a family of musicians but rather absorbing rumba through community and family gatherings.
- Early exposure to legends like Pescaílla and Peret in neighborhood bars and family events.
- The natural, unlearned “duende” (musical soul) is highlighted as vital:
- Quote: “Hay una cosa que no se aprende, que es lo que sale de dentro. Eso es de nacimiento.” (04:24)
Evolution of Gràcia and the Changing Scene
- From Community Gatherings to New Realities
- Describes a lively, communal atmosphere in old Gràcia—street music, children playing, impromptu concerts.
- Contrasts this with today’s regulations and less spontaneous social environment:
- Quote: “Antes estábamos jugando los niños en la calle, nos criábamos en la calle y nos poníamos a cantar y los mismos vecinos salían a bailar con nosotros... Y ahora eso es inviable, eso es imposible.” (06:39)
- Family and community played formative roles in local musical tradition.
The TikTok Generation
- Song Satirizes Digital Habits
- The band's recent work includes a playful critique of TikTok addiction, inspired by observing his daughter and wife’s social media habits.
- Sikus admits he’s from another era and expresses resistance to full digital engagement:
- Quote: “Yo creo que soy de otra generación y a veces te queda un poco lejos esto del TikTok... Si encima debemos estar todo el día con el móvil, es que no vamos a componer.” (02:27)
- The song was meant as a nudge, but his daughter now dances to it on TikTok.
Celebrating Milestones & Icons
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30+ Years on the Stage; Most Memorable Moments
- A key highlight: Sabor de Gràcia’s concert at the Palau de la Música, recorded in a double CD, closing with a tribute to Joan Manuel Serrat.
- Sikus expresses deep pride:
- Quote: “Es aquellos conciertos que siempre esperas en tu vida poderlos hacer y sobre todo con un Palau a reventar, la gente entregada, con grandes artistas a nuestro lado colaborando...” (08:00)
- A sense of modesty and collective achievement is clear.
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Role in Rumba's Story
- Sikus resists positioning himself above other greats, acknowledging predecessors and contemporaries:
- “Cada uno tenemos nuestro papel en la rumba catalana y cada uno ha conseguido cosas. Te dejas también a Estopa, por ejemplo, son compañeros y muy grandes.” (08:51)
- Announces their upcoming trip to Minnesota, USA, to bring rumba catalana abroad.
- Sikus resists positioning himself above other greats, acknowledging predecessors and contemporaries:
Rumba Catalana’s Recognition & Legacy
- The UNESCO Quest
- The band, alongside key advocates like Rosa Pubí, works to have rumba catalana recognized by UNESCO as Intangible Cultural Heritage.
- “Una de las asignaturas que tenemos pendientes es esta candidatura de la rumba catalana, poderla llevar a ser reconocida por la UNESCO.” (09:14)
- He frames this recognition as a tribute to past masters and a legacy for younger generations.
- The band, alongside key advocates like Rosa Pubí, works to have rumba catalana recognized by UNESCO as Intangible Cultural Heritage.
Working with Peret
- Experience with the Master
- Brief professional collaborations with Peret described as demanding but instructive.
- Peret’s advice was to stick closer to traditional rumba, but Sikus defended his approach:
- Quote: “‘Hacer más rumba catalana, que te vas para la salsa.’ Y le [decía], para hacer lo que hace usted... si hago lo que hace usted, lo van a contratar a usted y no voy a comer.” (10:00)
Live Rumba Performance
- The episode closes with a spirited live performance of "Bella Ciao" rumba-style by Sabor de Gràcia, inviting both the radio crew and listeners to share in the celebratory, communal spirit of rumba.
Memorable Moments & Quotes
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On Self-taught Beginnings:
- “Yo empecé que mi abuelo, que está en la gloria, me regaló una guitarra y a los siete años, autodidácticamente, yo vivía en la calle Francesc Ginet de Gracia... me sentaba en una silla y cantaba en el balcón.” (03:28)
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On Rumba's Intuition:
- “Eso no se aprende... hay una cosa que no se aprende, que es lo que sale de dentro. Eso es de nacimiento.” (04:24)
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On Digital Generational Divide:
- “Yo creo que soy de otra generación y a veces te queda un poco lejos esto del TikTok y me queda un poco grande...” (02:27)
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On Performing at the Palau:
- “Para mí superar esto cuesta, pero claro, nunca puedes decir que no se puede superar... lo disfrutamos mucho... la gente entregada.” (08:00)
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On Peret’s Advice:
- “‘Hacer más rumba catalana, que te vas para la salsa.’... si hago lo que hace usted, lo van a contratar a usted y no voy a comer.” (10:00)
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On UNESCO Candidature:
- “…hemos conseguido... llevar la candidatura de la rumba catalana que se ha inscrita en la UNESCO, porque es hacer un homenaje a todos estos grandes...” (09:14)
Notable Timestamps
- 00:11–01:49 : Introduction to Sabor de Gràcia & montage of songs
- 02:09–03:12 : Sikus discusses the TikTok-inspired song & his daughter’s role
- 03:12–05:45 : Sikus reflects on his musical upbringing in Gràcia
- 06:32–07:17 : Changes in Gràcia and its impacts on local music and community
- 07:17–08:29 : Remembering the Palau de la Música concert & what it meant
- 08:32–09:54 : The band’s place in rumba’s story & efforts toward UNESCO recognition
- 09:54–10:24 : Brief but instructive work with Peret
- 11:08–14:40 : Full-band live rumba performance (including "Bella Ciao") and communal singalong
Concluding Vibe
The episode blends nostalgia, humor, and thoughtful commentary, capturing rumba’s deep roots in Barcelona’s social fabric while looking ahead to its future. Sikus’ stories offer not just a tour of musical milestones, but a moving testament to rumba as both personal heritage and collective cultural treasure—a genre ready to keep evolving and crossing borders.
