On this episode of the Huge Transformations Podcast, host Sheila Smeltzer sits down with Jeff Scott, a second-generation window cleaner from Wisconsin and the owner behind Green Window Cleaning, Green Building Maintenance Services, and Safety Green Training. Jeff shares how he started his company from scratch in 2009 after walking away from his family’s business sale, knocking on doors with little more than basic tools and experience. From there, he built a company that now leans heavily on recurring commercial work while also becoming deeply respected for its expertise in rope access, high-rise safety, and training.

Jeff and Sheila also go deep on something that rarely gets enough attention in home services: safety as a real operating system, not just a checklist. They talk through rope descent systems, SPRAT and IRATA training, rooftop risk, job hazard analyses, documented compliance, and the difference between doing dangerous work and doing skilled work safely. At the same time, Jeff opens up about rebuilding his company after major staffing losses, creating stronger culture, empowering his team, and stepping back into growth mode after years of living more passively. It is a sharp episode for service business owners who want to think bigger, lead better, and build a company that is both profitable and professionally run.

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Hello everyone. Welcome to the Huge Transformations podcast. I'm Sid Graef out of Montana. I'm Gabe Torres here in Nashville, Tennessee. And I'm Sheila Smeltzer from North Carolina, we are your hosts and guides through the landscape of growing a successful home service business. We do this by interviewing the best home service business builders in.

The industry folks that have already built seven and eight figure businesses and they want to help you succeed. Yep. No fake gurus on this show, just real life owners that have been in the trenches and can help show you the way to grow profitably. We get insights and truths from successful business builders, and every episode is 100% experience.

0% theory. We are going to dig deep and reveal the good, the bad, and the ugly. Our guests will share with you the pitfalls to avoid and the keys to winning. In short, our guest will show you how to transform your home service business into a masterpiece. Thanks for joining us on the wild. Journey of entrepreneurship.

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Hi, I'm Sheila Smeltzer with the Huge Transformations Podcast. Thank you for joining us today. I have a really special and unique interview with Jeff Scott. Uh, Jeff and I are longtime industry friends and colleagues, and we're gonna take it a little bit different today. We're gonna go a little bit different route and we're gonna be talking about.

Yes, business. But we're also gonna be talking about high rise rope descent, rope access, safety audits, OSHA compliance, um, building JHAs residential rooftop safety. Um, but what we're gonna do is we're gonna get into Jeff Scott's head because he is a second generation window cleaner from Wisconsin. Uh, he was brought up in the high rise world, and this guy's got, um.

He's got level three spr, um, training. He's, he's a wealth of knowledge when it comes to building access and safety training, so this is super cool. This is totally my thing. I love talking about this stuff and, uh, we're gonna bring it to you here. I hope you enjoy this podcast. Stick around and join us. Hey everybody.

Welcome to the Huge Transformations podcast. I am Sheila Smeltzer. And today we have a super cool, uh, show because this is like a long time friend of mine, Jeff Scott. Hey Jeff. Hey Sheila. How you doing? I'm doing great. Uh, Jeff Scott is, uh, safety Green training. Also Green Building and maintenance services, green Building Maintenance services.

Uh, also green window cleaning, which is residential company. Mm-hmm. Um, and Jeff, you and I have known each other for probably 18, 16, 18 years. God, that seems like a long time. It's true though. Um, I think we, we met originally through the IWCA. Um, Jeff is a second generation window cleaner. Um, you started as a window cleaner and now you have your companies, I mean, you are, um.

Like when you say that you're a window cleaning professional, you have absolutely excelled in that. You've got your high rise expertise all the way down to your residential. This is gonna be a super fun conversation. Jeff, you wanna tell our audience about yourself? I can. Um, well, I'm Jeffrey. Hello everybody.

Um, hello, Jeffrey. Um, I've been a window cleaner most of my life. I have stepped away from it from time to time to do some other things. I spent a long time in sales. But, um, I was kind of a late bloomer. I started my company up in, I guess it'd be oh nine. I think I was like 37. Um, so what is that, 17 years ago?

Probably a little longer than I, or not quite as long as I've known Sheila. Yeah. Um, I think I met you Sheila through my father. Yeah. Kent. Yeah. And uh, you know, I think the first time I met you was probably in Oconomowoc. Ah. Um, at one of the window cleaner picnics that Gary Mauer used to put on. That's going way back.

Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, we were talking about timeframe, but I think that locks it into when we had met, uh, we had a mutual friend, um, at that time. Yep. Um, but, um, yeah, so that takes, that takes us back. So yeah, I started up in oh nine, um, without a dime in my pocket. Um, but I did have a lot of experience at the time.

Okay. Uh, just knocking on doors, walking up and down the street. Can I clean your windows, you know, into residential? Yep. And, um, so I mean, but your dad, and so tell me, it was Madison window cleaning, right? Right. No, no, no. He was, he was bright way window cleaning. Um, they started up in central Wisconsin.

Right when. Okay. And then, man, I think it was the late eighties, started moving down into the Madison area. Okay. Okay. Started getting on ropes slightly before then. Uh, just in the central Wisconsin area, running a, a spider stage before that. Um, but then, uh, yeah, I think it was the late eighties. They hired a salesman finally and started pushing into the Madison area into some mid-rise work.

And then, um, they sold in, I think it was oh oh eight. Okay. Um, and it was kind of a, a shock, you know, to every, it was, it was kind of a secret sale. Nobody knew about it until it happened. Mm-hmm. Um, yeah. So at that time, I didn't want to go to work for the new owners. Uh, it was bought by a company called, um, jacks Maintenance.

Okay. Uh, which was a large janitorial company outta the Fox Valley, which is basically runs from Green Bay down towards Madison. Okay. Um, and they, you know, they did the right thing. It was a goodbye for them. Um, you know, uh, Ken to my father sold very well. Um, we don't really even hear about sales of that capacity anymore, what he got for it.

Um, but um, yeah, uh, when I walked out the door, um, I had to do something. I still had a bucket of moping. The squeegee went and bought a little giant ladder. So did you go from the high-rise working with your dad to residential because of like non-compete? Uh, no, I didn't have a non-compete. Okay. Um, so why did I did that?

Because I didn't have the money to buy, you know, high-rise equipment. Okay. Um, I didn't, I didn't have a staff, you know, I couldn't go do it on my own. Um, when I started up, I basically didn't know how I was gonna, how I was gonna feed my daughter, who was five at the time. I didn't know how I was gonna, I didn't know how I was gonna pay the mortgage.

I didn't know how I was gonna make the car payments, you know? Mm-hmm. So I just kind of went back to being a little kid and knocking on doors and walking up and down the street. Love it. So, um, green window cleaning today. What's the size of green window cleaning? What's it look like? Um, well we're kind of a three-headed beast with the green building Maintenance services, green window cleaning services and safety green training.

Mm-hmm. Um, we're probably. 85% large commercial contracted work. That's all recurring revenue. Um, which leaves about, you know, 10 to 12% residential and then safety green training's really kind of a side project. Yeah, that's, what's that? That's you, that's you. I've got, um, two other trainers. Okay. All right....