AG Bondi Out, Blanche In

Summary

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Podcast Summary: "AG Bondi Out, Blanche In"

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec
Date: April 2, 2026

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Overview

This episode of Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec dives into breaking news from Washington, D.C.: Attorney General Pam Bondi is being replaced by Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche as interim AG. Joined by co-host Benny Ray Harmony and special guests Will Chamberlain (Article 3 Project) and Rich Barris ("People's Pundit"), the podcast analyzes the political dynamics behind this cabinet shift, discusses the legal and communications record of Bondi and Blanche, explores midterm strategy in light of recent polling, and touches on faith and public events. The tone is conversational, direct, and at times irreverent—embodying Jack's signature "unfiltered" style.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Immediate Reaction to AG Shakeup

• Announcement: Breaking news confirms AG Pam Bondi is leaving the Department of Justice; Deputy AG Todd Blanche will serve as interim AG.

  • Jack highlights their recent interview with Blanche, noting the departure was not hinted at ([03:23]).
  • The panel sees this as both expected turnover at the one-year mark and potentially politically motivated.

• Benny Ray Harmony's perspective ([04:54]):

  • Bondi has been a long-term Trump loyalist, present during pivotal moments like Philadelphia 2020, making her ouster significant and "probably a difficult decision."
  • "This shows President Trump... he's on top of it... if that person... isn't that person anymore, he's going to relocate them and try new," [05:31].

• Speculation on more changes: Rumors swirl about Lee Zeldin moving from the EPA to DOJ, furthering a sense of “musical chairs” inside the Trump administration as midterms approach ([06:06]).

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2. Analysis of Bondi’s Tenure and the Blanche Transition

• Will Chamberlain on Bondi ([11:12]):

  • Describes Bondi as effective on legal victories ("92% win rate at the Supreme Court") but lacking in communications and congressional performance, especially regarding the Epstein files.
  • "She was just not... great in front of Congress... not the most sophisticated social media user..." [16:38].

• On Todd Blanche ([13:24], [15:10]):

  • Praised as "really, really good lawyer" and "competent," with depth in document disclosure (especially the Epstein case) and operational continuity.
  • Blanche’s willingness to do a media tour and acknowledge communication lapses is seen as a positive change in DOJ transparency.

• Continuity Concerns: Chamberlain reassures listeners that Blanche manages day-to-day DOJ operations, downplaying risk to ongoing cases unless further top-level departures occur ([18:05]).

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3. Cabinet Changes and Their Political Impact

• Discussion with Rich Barris, People's Pundit ([28:42]):

  • Bondi’s ouster is interpreted as overdue: "A little hard to point to a single Cabinet member who may have hurt the president more than Pam Bondi... She's the most unpopular cabinet member in the administration."
  • Seen as both typical “one year itch” for cabinet turnover and a calculated political reset before the midterms.

• Jack’s framing ([29:39], [30:36]):

  • "Do you think he's trying to sort of show some big moves from the White House that are really going to grab people's attention and perhaps... shift some of the narrative regarding the administration?"
  • Barris agrees, adding: "When you look at the polling... Pam Bondi is central to their souring," referencing swing voters from 2024 who haven’t solidified allegiance.

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4. Legal and Policy Deep Dive: Supreme Court & Birthright Citizenship

• Supreme Court Coverage ([19:43]-[24:27]):

  • The show analyzes the administration’s tense Supreme Court battle over birthright citizenship, with Chamberlain cautiously optimistic about the case—debating both oral arguments and future legal/political strategies.
  • Jack posits turning the midterms into a "massive campaign" for an illegal immigration constitutional amendment ([20:31]).

• Possible policy actions if the administration loses at SCOTUS:

  • Targeted visa restrictions (e.g., barring pregnant women from certain countries).
  • Labeling birth certificates for children of foreigners as “non-citizen.”
  • Chamberlain warns some state-level moves could be preempted if birthright citizenship is constitutionalized federally ([24:27]).

• Discussion on legal discrimination ([25:38]-[27:34]):

  • They openly address that borders and immigration policy inherently involve discrimination, framing the point as both legal reality and political cudgel.

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5. Midterm Strategy: Issues That Matter

• Polling Insights from Barris ([34:11]):

  • Foreign policy ranks only seventh in voter priorities; inflation, economy/jobs, healthcare, and accountability dominate.
    • "Number one... inflation. Number two, economy/jobs... Number four, accountability. Number five is immigration." ([35:20])
  • Advice for Trump: pivot away from endless foreign policy focus and be "seen optically as fighting for what people want more... than the other side."

• Implication of AG Bondi’s Exit ([32:37]):

  • Move seen as outreach to swing voters—“the people who are new to the coalition” and more skeptical of the administration, while the base is likely to remain loyal regardless.

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6. Faith Reflections & Turning Point Event

• Transition to Holy Week themes ([41:53]):

  • Jack and Benny Ray pivot to a moving discussion of Holy Thursday, the Passion, and the importance of humility and forgiveness—even in a contentious political environment.
  • Benny Ray: "Jesus was literally betrayed by one of his disciples... And what did he do? He still washed his feet. He knew it was coming. What did he do? He didn't change anything. It's just, it's so powerful." ([42:40])

• Preview of Turning Point USA Event ([44:49]):

  • Jack and Benny Ray discuss their upcoming event at George Washington University, focusing on student activism, faith, and America First values.
  • "It's not about politicians... Are we bringing people to the cross?" —Jack ([46:58])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Cabinet Turnover:
  • “This shows President Trump, he’s on top of it and he has certain goals…” — Benny Ray ([05:31])
• Legal Candidness:
  • “Every immigration law, every immigration law and every rule is discrimination. That’s the point.” — Jack ([25:56])
  • “For further discrimination, please go to Willchamberlin on X as well as the a3paction.com where we advocate for... various types of discrimination.” — Will Chamberlain ([26:09])
• Polling & Popularity:
  • “Pam Bondi... She’s the most unpopular cabinet member in the administration. This is better late than never.” — Rich Barris ([28:42])
• Faith and Forgiveness:
  • “Jesus was literally betrayed by one of his disciples... And what did he do? He still washed his feet...” — Benny Ray ([42:40])
  • “He says, Father, forgive them, they know not what they do... And to your point, right, we’re in the society today... I got to come back 10 times.” — Jack ([43:27])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• AG Bondi’s Ouster & Blanche’s Ascension: [03:23] – [06:30]
• Legal/Communications Analysis on Bondi & Blanche: [11:12] – [18:32]
• Supreme Court/Birthright Citizenship Debate: [19:43] – [27:34]
• Public Opinion & Political Strategy with Rich Barris: [28:42] – [36:20]
• Faith, Holy Thursday, and Turning Point Preview: [41:53] – [46:58]

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Final Thoughts

This installment of Human Events Daily offers a timely mix of political analysis, legal insight, and cultural commentary. The sudden AG transition is framed as both a routine administrative shakeup and a calculated effort to revive the Trump administration’s standing with wavering voters as the midterms approach. The episode’s latter half weaves in faith-based reflections and the show’s engagement with youth and activism, staying true to its America First, insurgent tone.

For listeners:
You’ll come away with a clear understanding of why Bondi’s departure matters, what to expect from Todd Blanche, and how this moment fits into the broader political and legal landscape—plus, a glimpse into the personal faith motivations at play behind the headlines.

Transcript

[A]

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President Trump leaving the Supreme Court after a historic 90 minute first visit by a sitting president. As the government's attorney argued birthright citizenship has become exploited. We're in a new world now, as Justice Alito pointed out, to where 8 billion people are one plane ride away from having a child who's a US Citizen. Today, as hundreds of immigrant advocates rallied outside the court, most of the justices signaled they aren't buying Trump's plan.

[C]

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[B]

We have confirmed from multiple sources, John, that the president has been talking privately recently about replacing the Attorney general, Pam Bondi, firing her from her role running the Justice Department, and actually instead putting the EPA administrator Lee Zeldin in that position.

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[A]

Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily. We're Here live, Washington, D.C. on Real America's Voice. Today is April 2nd. April 2nd is, of course, April 2nd, 2026, Anno Domini. Here live in studio riding shotgun, co pilot today is Benny Ray harmony, our Washington, D.C. correspondent for real America's Voice and as longtime viewers will remember, the original producer of Human Events. What's up, Benny Ray?

[B]

Oh, nothing, Jack, just happy to be here.

[A]

Well, and we see a big day. We see, of course, and yet another change in the White House. As we've seen, another Cabinet official is now moving out. News just breaking really, just before we went to air here, that AG Bondi will be leaving the Department of Justice and in fact, Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche is moving in as the interim head of the, of the Department of Justice. And interesting enough, we had Todd Blanche here on this program just a few days ago for a full sit down interview where we talked about all things antifa, we talked about the Epstein releases, we talked about the Charlie Kirk case, and he was able to give us as much information as we could. So just a few days ago, we had Todd Blanche on which unbeknownst to myself and his staff, certainly didn't notice, he didn't mention us that, that this would be coming up. So this may have been a bit of a surprise move. We've also seen, of course, just in the last few days that it was the Department of Homeland Security had its turnover of Kristi Noem and then the takeover by Mullins. You're here in D.C. you're on the Hill, you're hearing this over and over. What do you, what is your make? What are you hearing out of Capitol Hill in terms of some of the turnover that's going on? And to be sure, usually at the one year mark, you do see turnover in the Cabinet. How much of this is that versus how much of this from your, from what you're hearing is, is, is the president, you know, putting people into different spots?

[B]

Well, I will say I remember we were sitting in the briefing room the day that it was announced that Kristi Noem was being replaced. And the first topic next was what's he going to do with Pam Bondi? A lot of people had questions. They kind of, I think people saw this coming a little bit. There were some questions surrounding it. We were talking about, you know, she's done an excellent job and she's been a Trump loyalist for, you know, how many years, has been by his side. But there have been.

[A]

She was right. She was right there in Philadelphia in 2020.

[B]

Right there. I mean, she, she really has not left his side. And so I think that probably a difficult decision. What are you going to do? But, you know, with Kristi Noem now leaving and with Pam Bondi, like I said, there's lots of conversations around it. But also I think this shows kind of the, the, the movement of the administration. I think a lot of, even people in the press, they can see that. Whereas in former administrations, the president's kind of just, even if they weren't happy with the performance of their cabinet members, they didn't do anything. And so this shows President Trump, he's on top of it and he has certain goals, certain missions that he wants to accomplish. And even if that person that he first put into place maybe isn't that person anymore, he's going to relocate them and try new. And so I think overall, I mean, I think this was a good move, but I think there are going to be a lot of questions surrounding it.

[A]

And of course, we're digging in as well. And, you know, a lot of questions, of course, to come up. Will there be more, will, will there be more turnover for the administration if there's this rumor that Lee Zeldin may come over from epa? So, yeah, so that would create another open blanche.

[B]

You know, you'll have him interim and then what's going to happen after that? Is he going to go back to being second in line? What's that going to look like?

[A]

Or maybe he goes over to epa.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What's maybe, I mean, there's, there's quite a bit the musical chairs. And of course, we know that in the first administration there was turnover as well. So that is certainly to be expected as we are hurtling towards a midterm election in November as well. The president giving his remarks last night. We were live here on Real America's Voice, Benny Ray, myself, covering all of that in real time. So stay tuned for more. We're going to have updates on this as it develops. Human Events Daily continues here live. Washington D.

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[A]

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[D]

I think that could be it, but it's not really. I doubt that Pam Bondi would be the person you'd be frustrated. I mean, John Sauer is a Solicitor General. I mean, John. So. And people should. One, we haven't even lost that case yet. I think people are dooming too much over it. As I mentioned on Charlie Kirk yesterday, I think we've got a fighting chance. And it was a tough case from the beginning, but I think. I think this more has to do with some lingering frustrations with Bondi over the past year and a half. That said, I mean, I've always been a person who thinks that Bondi's actually done a pretty good job, especially on the terms of running the department. We're sort of victory is in the law take a long time. And we're starting to see more and more of them come out. I mean, we got a 92% win rate at the Supreme Court. We're starting to grind out these wins in these immigration cases, namely like the temporary protected status cases and where, you know, these district judges have thrown a wrench in the System, a big 5th Circuit win that's going to allow us to detain illegal immigrants without bond. So, you know, and she's done a ton on crime and disorder. So I think she did a good job. I think she was just not, you know, my basic assessment of Bondi is she was, she was running the department while she was not doing a great job. On the calm side, I think that, you know, you go back to the Epstein thing and the files there, I didn't think she handled that particularly well. And I, I don't think she was great in front of Congress, but I'm not, you know, I don't, I don't think she did a bad job. I think she's very loyal to the President. And I think, you know, when you look at the President's statement today, you see that she was, he was very fond of Pam Bondi, even if he decided he wanted to make a change.

[A]

You know, I think that's right. And so when you look at this and it's, you know, it's interesting for us that we, we just did a sit down, long sit down with Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanch just a couple of days ago, and I ran him through, peppered him with all sorts of questions about Epstein, about these antifa tiger teams that they've now set up between the FBI and the irs looking at the left wing money flows, the organizational side of the militant left. Even asked him questions about the Tyler Robinson case. Obviously he wasn't able to divulge too much because that is still a criminal case that's going to trial. As a former prosecutor, he even said that that's not something that he wanted to get into. But you know, just say what, what's your view of Todd Blanche, of his reputation and how do you think that he'll be running the department, at least in terms of the interim here?

[D]

I mean, Todd Blanche is a really, really good lawyer and a really, really good deputy Attorney general. And so now as interim attorney general, I mean, the thing people need to understand too that the deputy Attorney general runs most of the day to day of the department already. And so he's in a position where he knows all the serious, he's on top of all the serious matters. I don't think it'll be, it'll be a very seamless transition if he's remaining in as interim while whoever the President chooses ends up getting confirmed. So I think that makes me very optimistic. I think we're going to keep making progress on all the fronts that the DOJ has been making progress on, and I'm looking forward to what he and the new AG are able to do in the future.

[A]

You know, he seemed absolutely on top of things when we sat down with him last week. He did quite a bit. He's also, by the way, the one who, you know, just on Epstein, Todd Blanche is the one who actually went and sat down with Ghislaine Maxwell and then released a full transcript of all of the information that came out of there. And he's done extensive interviews since then going through question and question and question about this. And I think that while some, myself included, as everyone remembers, were, you know, were frustrated at what seemed was the lack of transparency in terms of the communications early on, Todd Blanche, not only did he conduct all that, even when he came here on Human Events Daily, he acknowledged the communications issues that the department had gone through and said we should have done a better job. And I think the fact that he's been going around and doing this media tour that we were certainly a part of is a big part of that as well. Well, being willing to say, hey, there are questions, we get it. This was a crazy case. Let's actually sit down and hash out the questions instead of sort of putting up this wall, which is of course, from a communications perspective, never really the best way to go about things.

[D]

Yeah, I think that's right. And I mean, people need to understand Top Blanche has released millions of files. The amount of legal time and effort that went into complying with the Massey Khana legislation that forced the discussion, disclosure of all these files. Top Blanche was in charge of that and made it happen. I mean, there's a huge repository files that we now have access to. And people also need to understand that, you know, they complained about the redactions, but the redactions were required by the Mass Econo legislation they made. And that resulted in a huge number of legal man hours that had to be put in to review all these documents. You know, speaking as a lawyer who's done document review, when I looked at that legislation and understood what that entailed, I was like, man, they're going to be, you know, hundreds of lawyers all over the country doing Docker View for, for weeks on, just on this case. And my understanding was that if you were not in trial in New York, you were working on the Epstein matter, doing all this document disclosure. So Todd Blanche was very good on that. And he also managed to, while doing all that additional work that was foisted upon him, keep all the other balls rolling that DOJ has rolling. So I think, I think he's really competent. I'm really impressed. Impressed. Top Blanche and I hope he remains even after he's no longer interim and we get a new ag. I think, I hope he remains as the, the deputy.

[B]

Well, you had mentioned, you know, Pambani's kind of performance when she was, you know, in Congress and speaking to these members. Can you kind of take us through that a little bit? What do you think could have been done better that, you know, Todd Blanche could maybe step in and take, you know, if that makes sense.

[D]

Well, I don't know that Todd Blanch will have that sort of role in terms, usually it's the AG that goes in front of Congress. So I think, you know, I think, I don't think Top Blanch will be in the position long enough to like schedule congressional hearings. I expect that it'll be the next Agee who appears in front of Congress. I think, I think Pam Bondi was just a little bit, honestly just a little bit stilted in front of Congress, was not the most quick on her feet in terms of answering questions. She still was very tough and I really admired that about her, how she really didn't take anything from some of these people. But I think, I think there are, there are better, there will be better advocates, public advocates for what the administration is doing. I think that, that, that is a big thing. And also I think someone, I think Pam Bonnie was also not the most sophisticated social media user understanding of, didn't have a great understanding of the way new media worked. And as a result, some of the communications from her department under her leadership felt a little stilted. I think that a new AG who's a little more savvy because, you know, remember Pam Bondi wasn't in office for quite a long time and Lee Zeldin was a representative very recently. If he's the guy who's chosen, there's a lot of, I hear a lot of good names floated. My old boss, Ron Desantis, I think would be an excellent Attorney General, for example. So a lot of good names floated and I think they'll do a better job of handling that public facing role that the AG is really, really key for.

[A]

No, I couldn't agree more. Well, that being said, when you have the AG turnover like this, does it have a strong effect, would you say, on specific cases that may be ongoing?

[D]

Not unless you get rid of the whole top floor. Right. Like if you, if suddenly Blanche was gone and Stan Woodward, who's I believe is the number three at DOJ was gone, that actually could come cause real problems because then you have, you have to get a whole new set of people up to speed on all the important matters. But as long as Todd, I mean Todd Blanche actually has more people reporting to him on a day to day basis than Pam Bondi does, that's the way the department is structured. So as long as you keep Todd around, you're going to have the continuity and I don't expect any hiccups.

[A]

No, I think that's exactly right. Well, well, are you with us for another segment? We can hold you over.

[C]

Sure.

[A]

Okay, great. Yeah, we'll hold. We'll hold you over because there's so much going on. I definitely want to get into that. Maybe pick your brain a little bit on where we stand in the Supreme Court with this Jack Posobic, Benny Ray Harmony, sitting shotgun today, my co pilot here on Human Events Daily in Washington D.C.

[C]

Influencers. These are influencers and they're friends of mine. Jack, where's dad?

[A]

Jack? All right, folks are back. Jack Posobic here live Human events daily, Washington D.C. we're here with Benny Ray Harmony. She is the co pilot and co host of Human Events. I should also tell you, by the way, thank you for filling in you and Bo Davidson while I was away for Tanya Tay's birthday. Really appreciate it. You guys crushed it. Did some fun episodes. Good news. You guys did great.

[B]

Thank you. We were happy to do it. It was great. And Beau's just fantastic. He's. He can roll with it. And you have. You kind of fly by the wind, you know what I mean? And so that's what me and Beau kind of did. And we did.

[A]

It was. It was awesome to see. So I want to get Will Chamberlain. So Will. We, of course were covering the Supreme Court case yesterday. We had your colleague Mike Davis on the program. He and I think a lot of people said that, you know, it doesn't look as if the Supreme Court is going to rule for the administration on this question of birthright citizenship. And so we got into an interesting discussion of what could be done in response then. What other alternatives for belief would there be? And I suggest I'll throw it right out there. What if we just ran a massive campaign? What if we turn the entire 2026 midterm elections into. Go with me on this illegal immigration amendment to the Constitution. Couldn't we do that? Why can't we do that?

[D]

We could. I mean, we're never going to have sufficient votes to actually get those things enacted. But, I mean, running on them is not a bad idea at all. I also, I mean, I do want to say I'm, you know, and I can. I'm allowed to disagree with my boss. Right. I actually am a little more optimistic. Not necessarily that I think it's more likely than not that we'll prevail, but I think. I think Mike is a little more black pill than I am on the oral argument. Having listened to the way that they went after the ACLU attorney, I thought that they were. A lot of the justices were asking the right questions. Specifically, Gorsuch, Alito, Kavanaugh were all asking really good questions. So I'm not sure that won't. I think it could be a 5, 4. I think we might actually swing it. But, you know, assuming we don't. Assuming. Assuming my boss is correct on this question, you know, that's one thing we can do, I think.

[A]

Let me.

[D]

Immigration amendments.

[A]

Well, let me also just throw out there as well that perhaps rather than a sweeping opposition, there are also times when the court puts out, you know, things that are sort of in part. So, you know, they could sort of put out a narrow. They could narrow the scope of birthright citizenship so not do away with it completely, but perhaps make it so that there are some stricter guidelines that need to be followed, that sort of thing.

[D]

Yeah, and it's. It's curious. You know, one of the big questions is like, what does the phrase subject to the jurisdiction mean? And the ACLU's contention is that it means a limited, closed set of three exceptions that were extant at the time of the enactment of the 14th Amendment. And I think, you know, Kavanaugh had this really interesting point about how, you know, if that was the case, why didn't they just list those exceptions rather than coming up with this sort of general phrase that could apply to other people as well? So I think you could easily see a world where, you know, temporary sojourners who were discussed at the time, the amendment, they were much rarer, but they were discussed. Children are temporary sojourners. Nobody would have thought they would have gotten citizenship. And so they might try and craft a rule that allows the administration to ban birth tourism, for example. You know, even if they don't, even if they say, like you know, the children of legal aliens who've been here for 20 years, those people need to be granted citizenship. But maybe the children of the Chinese people who show up in the Northern Mariana Islands and randomly give birth and then head home, those kids don't get citizenship. That could be some sort of splitting the baby rule. Not, not the obvious. There's not an obvious principle, by the way.

[A]

By the way, Will, Will. Literally splitting the baby in this case.

[D]

Yes. Splitting the babies, yes. Citizenship and not citizenship.

[A]

Indeed.

[D]

Not the individual. Not the individual babies, but you know, of course, category of babies.

[A]

Well, of course, I, Speaking of which, though, I had to throw out this on, on Twitter last night. Isn't it interesting that when you speak to the liberal judges and Ketanji Brown Jackson, that all of a sudden when you're not talking about abortion, suddenly the pregnant women and their children get referred to as citizens or pre citizens with full rights. And here she is upholding the rights of these unborn children when they happen to be the children of immigrants and foreigners and temporary sojourners and all these things. But when you switch to abortion. Oh, suddenly, suddenly it's another question altogether.

[B]

It's insane.

[D]

Yeah, it's really interesting how they can say, you know, I mean, you see this all the time. Liberal judges suddenly becoming these like unbelievably narrow minded originalists when they think they have the text on their side. It's remarkable about how that works.

[A]

It's like, it's like magic. But well, so the constitutional amendment that's there and by the way, I do think that that would be popular. I do think it would. But there are also a number of procedural questions and procedural items that could be done here. Possibly not even just the federal level, but even on the state level. When you're talking about the birth certificates that the state health departments are issuing, they could simply write non citizen on them and simply label them as non citizen, which I believe the Attorney general of Oklahoma has talked about. Visas are another way. What are some of the other options that the administration could look at?

[D]

I don't know that those would work if we straight up lost this birthright citizenship. People need to understand that it's a bad outcome if we lose it fully because it means that birthright citizenship becomes constitutionalized at the federal level, which means the states can't do things that contradict it. So I don't know that that would survive. What I think we can do though is the federal government has enormous authority when it comes to letting people in and out of the Country. And so there could be a major crackdown on tourist visa, visa issuances from China, other sorts of visa issuances from China in order to stop birthright citizenship. I don't know, maybe you could also put into place rules that say, you know, from certain nations, you cannot be pregnant when you show up. And like, that would be a very interesting one because it would mean that, you know, if you're visibly pregnant, you're, you know, you're not allowed to get a tourist visa. You just get turned away.

[A]

Benny, Benny, you're making. Benny, Benny's making a face. Benny, what's the phase?

[B]

I. You know.

[A]

Benny, are you breaking news on the show here?

[B]

Listen, I am all jacked up. I am all for it. I just wonder how the Democrats and how the liberals would twist that and make it discrimination on pregnant people at that point and then contradict themselves again when they don't really care about pregnant people to begin with.

[A]

But wait, wait, wait. Of course it's discrimination. That's the role of the visa process. That's what a border is. A border is inherently discriminatory.

[D]

That's why immigration law is built on discriminating between immigrants of various.

[A]

Every immigration law, every immigration law and every rule is discrimination. That's the point.

[D]

Yes.

[B]

Yeah. Okay. You know, this is. There's a lot going on right now, Jack.

[A]

Will, we love. We love. We have any. Ray on. It's. It's absolutely the best. Well, where can people go to follow you to get your discriminatory legal analysis?

[D]

Yes, for. For further discrimination, please go to Willchamberlin on X as well as the a3paction.com where we advocate for. For various types of discrimination. You know, Mike wouldn't like that. Although, you know, who knows.

[A]

That being said, Mike Davis, you'll never find a more discriminating lawyer in all of Washington, D.C. jack Posic, Benny Ray Harmony. More discrimination ahead here on Human Events Daily.

[C]

Where's Jack? Where's Jack? Where is he? Jack, I want to see you. Great job, Jack.

[E]

Thank you.

[C]

What a job you do. You know, we have an incredible thing. We're always talking about the fake news

[A]

and the bad, but we have guys,

[C]

and these are the guys who've been getting policies.

[A]

All right, folks, we're back. Jack Posobec, Benny Ray, Harmony here, Human Events Daily, your headquarters for legal discrimination. You knew I was good. You know, we are discrimination. Show your discrimination station, your discrimination destination here. That's your destination. We've got Rich Barris coming on the people's pundit Rich is like, what are they talking about?

[B]

Rich, welcome to the discrimination show.

[E]

That's great to be here, as always.

[A]

No, Rich, because we were talking, we were talking about immigration and the immigration ruling and I said, well, what if we. And Will Chamberlain, he said, well, we just ban pregnant women from entering. And Betty Ray is like, well, aren't the Democrats going to call that discrimination? I'm like, of course it's discrimination. What is it exactly? That's exactly my point. But Rich, so I wanted to get you on because, you know, we're obviously a lot is going on, but the breaking news of the day has been the story about AG Bondi just a couple of blocks away from where we're sitting here in Washington, D.C. we've seen the politics of this. We've seen, of course, you know, the ups and downs of her tenure at the Department of Justice. Wanted to get your take on it because we're seeing, you know, that it's sort of the one year itch that I think is coming up with Cabinet officials. You know, it's like a year and change since the cabinet's been in and the confirmation process. It really is the one year mark. Do you think that's what this is or do you think there's something more political going on here? Throw it to you, Rich. Rich Barris.

[E]

Well, look, I've got to pull no punches when it comes to the attorney General. As a public opinion pollster, it's a little hard to point to a single Cabinet member who may have hurt the president more than Pam Bondi. Nobody, you know, nobody is the first, the face of the Epstein file situation more than her. We've pulled this, Jack. You've seen it. She's the most unpopular cabinet member in the administration. This is a better late than never. I would have liked to see this earlier as far as just, you know, the political side of this, you know, what the president, you know, needs to do in order to clean the slate. Jack, you know, it is that one year mark, right? And we're going to see a lot more probably after the midterm terms, but that's, that's normal. But Pam Bondi is again, you know, not just with, you know, Democrats and independents. There are even a lot of Republicans who were pretty much done with Pam Bondi at this point. This is good, this long time coming, honestly.

[A]

So you think this is something. Now that being said, though, you know, we've seen a lot from the president. We saw this, this speech last night. This really was there. And by the way, Rich, this is something that, you know, the President, when he goes big, he wants to go big. So you saw this big speech, this big moment that he gave last night. Now we're seeing Pam. So do you think that perhaps he's trying to sort of show some big moves from the White House that are really going to grab, you know, grab people's attention and perhaps, you know, just perhaps he's trying to shift some of the narrative regarding the administration that, of course, we've seen in the media over polling numbers. You know, Harry Anton talking about Death Valley yesterday, these types of things is. Do you think he's trying to shake some of that off?

[E]

What happened to the 100%, Harry, whatever. That, that was quick, right? Three days went from 100% historic support to. To Death Valley in the end of days. Right.

[A]

Rich, what do you. What do you really think of Harrietten? Don, don't hold back.

[D]

Come on.

[E]

Really think, you know, I mean, it's just anyone from our neck of the woods knows a snake oil salesman when you see one. I don't know if I've ever seen one in this business where I am like Harry Enton before. He's like the guy in the corner selling the CDs we talked about.

[C]

Right.

[E]

But basically, yeah, I mean, look, I do think the President's a showman. He knows what time it is. I think he has been feeling this for a while. He may say, you know, some things.

[A]

He's got.

[E]

Look, politicians have to say something in public and, and, you know, do some make moves in the background. That's just the way it is. Right. But I think the President, and I've said this for a while, even though I have been very critical and I've been not optimistic going into November. If anyone can do this, Jack, it's him. And he knows exactly what to do in order to shift. It's not like he doesn't in order to make that shift, which needs to be a big shift. I just would caution, though, and say, I just hope we don't throw the baby out with the bath water, you know, make some changes, do what you got to do. But, you know, there's. Obviously, we're hearing other rumors. You know, let's just. Let's just hope we get this one today and we'll see how it goes in the future. But this is a big step because Pam Bondi is the face of his first real. The real sign of trouble, Jack, and his approval rating. And in the coalition, Pam Bondi's the face of it. So you know, for anyone who wants to see or has been wanting to see what you're talking about, this is a good day.

[A]

Well done. And we have seen, we have seen turnover as well. We've seen Kristi Noem, you know, she's, she's gone out. Dan Bongino, by the way, who, you know, wasn't a Cabinet member, but also extremely, extremely high profile, certainly again with the base. And so, Rich, let me ask you this. Do you think, in terms of calibration, assuming this is political, for sake of argument, do you think this is calibrated as for the base or perhaps more for that broader coalition of voters that seem to have drifted away since 2024?

[E]

Yeah, I think that's why this is so smart, because it is broad. When you look at the polling that we did, you know, at the end of the day, Donald Trump is beloved by the base, Jack. You know, I mean, they give him so much benefit of the doubt, right? This has to go toward the people who are new to the coalition and, you know, loosely aligned. I wouldn't even say, you know, they were dating with the Republican Party. They were flirting, Right. You didn't even get to take them out to dinner yet. They came over in 24 and they were flirting with the idea. And, and Pam Bondi is again, central to the, to, to their souring somewhat. So I do think it's to them which is smart. Right. The base is going to go along with whatever because that, the basis is different, folks, in that, like when you hear arguments, no matter what, Democrats are worse. So we have to vote.

[A]

Right.

[E]

That, that's a base argument. But for this move and for people are out there and that argument's not good enough for them. That's for them. And by the way, I hate to say this, but some voters are more important than others, Right. Some voters are always going to show up, others not so much. And that's, this is for them and that's why it's good.

[B]

And Rich, I don't know if you, I don't know if Jack kind of already asked this question, but with your research that you do and kind of, kind of just with how much you're watching, we know some of these main issues going into the midterms that are going to be huge for voters. But, you know, after we heard Trump's speech last night, what do you think people really care about the most right now? That is going to be the difference maker, if you, if you have any.

[E]

Yeah, that's why I do like to see him make big moves and pivot. Because you can go out there and say, we achieved our objectives and we won, even take the wood and go home. But it doesn't help people pay their grocery bill. It doesn't help people pay their mortgage. So I do want to see the President shift into something else and start, you know, the news, the headlines, they're constantly dominated by foreign policy. Foreign policy is number seven on our ranked distribution for most important issues. It's gone. It's like nowhere near the top.

[B]

That's important. Yeah, that's important to know right there that people. That's not their top.

[A]

So it's Rich. Are you trying to say it's the economy? Stupid deal. You know, the old, you know, the old give up. You know, the old, the old, the old Clinton. Right. James Carville. Right. The old, the old phrase like it just comes down to the money. It's all about the money.

[E]

Look, it's important to note too, who votes in midterms. Right. Of course, it tends to be more older and more educated. And I hate to say this, but they were right. The USA Today had a piece recently, a couple of weeks ago, and it was actually the female voter over 50 who was really swingy and on the edge. It was the economy for them. So, you know, pivoting to the economy. And guys, I just stress this. It doesn't even have to be accomplishments. You just have to be seen optically as fighting for what people want more so than the other side. There are things Republicans can do even if they fail. If they get Democrats to oppose it, it can help their argument with those voters. Those voters will vote regardless, Jack. And if they feel like the Republican Party hasn't even tried to address those concerns, it's going to be a problem. Now, there are some other sides of this, you know, with the let the low propensity part of the coalition that you and I have talked about. That's why I do like this move with Bondi, because accountability is important to them. That's actually number four. Number one, just so everybody understands the economy and jobs. Number or, I'm sorry, that's number two. Inflation is number one. Economy, Jobs, health care, then it's accountability. Number five is immigration. So this is, this is a way, I think the president in the last 24:48 hours has begun to show like some signs that I want to move on. I want to do some other things here and that's good. Well, Supreme Court taking up birthright citizenship.

[A]

Rich, I want to make sure before, before we bounce that we do talk about the fact that you have a new book that is racing up the charts on Amazon with Joshua Isaac, our good friend.

[E]

Burn It Down. That's the, that's the answer for Donald Trump. Just burn it down. And, yeah, thanks for, for, you know, bringing that up, Jack. I mean, honestly, this will be released right before the midterms. It's a crucial argument about hoping to get people to understand the boomers will fall out of this electorate very, very soon. What did these other voters want? How did Donald Trump attract these younger voters in the 2024 election? And what happens if we don't give them what they want?

[A]

All right.

[E]

And the, the alternative is bleak. I mean, there's really two, two roads we can go down in this country, Jack. We have to pick the right one. The other one leads to Mamdani.

[A]

Well, that's exactly. It's Maga or Mamdani. A lot of us have been saying this. You've got to focus on the disparities in this country. You have to focus on the economics. And one of those is going to burn it down, Rich.

[E]

Burn it down.

[A]

Thank you so much, Rich. The people's funding for joining us here on Human Events Daily. All this the Jack Posobic Appreciation Hour. I can say confidently, I believe, I think Josh Shapiro would be the vice presidential nominee if it wasn't for Jack Posobic. And that, that is, I, I'll be honest. Hey, everybody, Bo Davidson here. I hope that you will check out my Easter special this Saturday and Sunday at 2pm Eastern, which is where I go to the Museum of the Bible and tour two amazing exhibitions. Exhibitions. The Dead Sea Scrolls and the Megiddo Mosaic. These are both very, very important to people of faith and I hope that it will inspire you and your family this weekend. So please check it out this weekend. Saturday and Sunday at 2pm Eastern. Happy Easter. This Easter weekend, Real America's Voice is taking you back in time. The living word from scrolls to cross Journey through history as host Bo Davidson explores the ancient writings that shaped the Bible as we know it today. What do you think is the biggest misconception? The biggest misconceptions early on was that somehow the scrolls were going to undo our beliefs. It actually does the opposite. What we are still practicing today has a genetic connection all the way back 2000 years. You don't want to miss this special event. Watch Saturday at 2pm and Sunday at 2pm only on real America's Voice. I am actually really excited for that. The Museum of the Bible is one of My favorite museums here in Washington, probably actually my favorite these days, if I had to say. But anyway, have you been in the Museum of the Bible yet?

[B]

I have, yeah.

[A]

It's.

[B]

Me and my mom went. It's amazing.

[A]

It's so good. It's so good.

[B]

I got one of the pictures of. Is it George Washington where he's praying at Valley. Is it Valley Forge?

[A]

Of course.

[B]

Oh, my gosh. And I have it framed in my house.

[A]

We have that. Well, Tanya and I got married in Valley Forge, so that's. Yeah, yeah. So that's amazing. Got engaged there, too, actually. And so that's always been just that and Washington and so much. Very personal. I grew up, like, you know, going there all the time. Valley Forge, like, every weekend with my family, flying kites, whatever, sledding in the winter. And that's always been so close. But what I love about the Museum of the Bible, there's so much stuff for families that if you have kids, you can. There's. There's tons of interactive stuff for kids. There's like a playground area, but it's all. It's all, like, you know, obviously biblical, but then even for, like, the Bible nerds like me, if you go to that top floor, and even, like Tanya, because she does the languages, I love the section on the translations and the. All the different partial. And the partial.

[B]

I think that was pieces of the

[A]

Bible that have been found over the years. It just. It gives you.

[B]

That was.

[A]

It gives you goosebumps. It really does.

[B]

That was probably my favorite seeing, you know, the. Just the depth of how far it goes, because we just look at it. You know, it's English. You know, it's our Bible. It's this.

[A]

Pull it off a shelf and argue.

[B]

But when you look at it from that view, it's like, whoa.

[A]

You just realize how much. And I see that as the Dead Sea Scrolls exhibit, which I think is phenomenal, that. What's so cool about that, we're to tie the Dead Sea Scrolls in. And here we are. It is Holy Thursday. We're going into Holy Week. The Holy Week has begun. We're in the Passion Cycle. And so it's. It's all connected. So today's the day of the Last Supper. Christ gives us the New Covenant. He gives us the Eucharist. Then you have Good Friday, of course, where he dies, Holy Saturday, where he descends to the dead. And then, of course, Easter Sunday. So, you know, you have the whole thing, and it begins on Holy Thursday. But when you look at the Dead Sea Scrolls, what was amazing about it, because they had been. You talk about the translation, they had been under seal from the time of Christ until now. And yet we have all these translations over the years. And of course, there's that question, right? Did people go in and edit things? Did people add words? Did they add sections? Did they. Did they change things up a little bit to meet the politics? And to be sure, you know, there are translations that do play a little fast and loose, but not to get into all that, but what's amazing was when they pulled those pots out of Qumran in that cave for the Dead Sea Scrolls, they were able to take that and then put it up to the Bible of today. It was mostly Old Testament. And they were able to find that the translations were almost verbatim, almost verbatim perfect. And so now you have a check that that means that. So throughout those years, when people were translating it, they were doing so faithfully. And when they were copying it down,

[B]

we get a little of that in today's world.

[A]

We could use some. Well, you know, and of course, when you look at Holy Thursday, you look at Christ's sacrifice, for us, this is

[B]

the Holy Thursday day. Is. That's, you know, it just. It puts everything into perspective, the meaning of it.

[A]

Well, I think it does. And you look at. You look at how that day runs. So Christ gives us, you know, he sort of. He establishes the communion in the New Covenant, the body and the blood. And because he knows this is going to be my last time that I'm with all of you before I have to go through what I have to go through, he then goes to the Garden of Gethsemane. You have the mystery of the agony in the garden where he's up there, Father, take this cup from me. And of course, that's when Judas comes in and betrays him. There's so. But that's when Peter. Peter denies him the three times he goes on trial. It's all there. It's all there.

[B]

One of the things, and I was thinking about this this morning before the show is like, in this world that we're in right now, you think, you know, oh, if someone's hateful towards me, it makes you want to be hateful back to them. Someone betrays you. What do kids in my generation want to do? They want to revenge, vengeful. They want to go right back at them as hard as they came at them. And then you look at that story and you're like, no, you know, Jesus was literally betrayed by one of his Disciples by someone that was in his inner circle. And what did he still do? He still washed his feet. He still, he knew it was coming. And what did he do? He didn't change anything. He didn't. It's just, it's so powerful. And I think in the modern world we have to hold on to that. The humility, the service. I think we've lost track.

[A]

And then, and then when Christ is on the cross itself, he's, he's up there, he's in the process of being crucified. A process that is so heinous and so painful and so horrific that we actually had to come up in Latin, they had to come up with a new word for it, excrucius or excruciating. So the word excruciating, the root of that is the same word as to crucify because it is so painful, they had to come up with a new word for it. And as he's going through that, he says, father, forgive them, they know not what they do. So he forgives the soldiers, he forgives the people who have done the crucifixion. And to your point, right, we're in the society today where, you know, it's oh, somebody came at me, I got to come back 10 times. I mean I certainly, you know, someone who's done that as well. And you do, you do have to stand up for yourself in righteousness. Righteousness at the time. But yes, it is very human for us to fall into those patterns.

[B]

Yeah, no, it's just, and I think it's really not to, you know, I know we're going to talk about here in a little bit about, you know, the event tonight, the Turning Point event here in D.C. but it goes back to that division and community and just bringing those like minded people together and speaking your faith and doing all the things. And that's what today is all about. It's about just showing how you should carry out your life and how you should continue to operate regardless of what the world says.

[A]

Well, so, and for folks who, you know, who don't know that we are going to be, we've been talking about it all week, but it's tonight, George Washington University right here in Washington D.C. it's going to be myself, it's going to be Erica Kirk. It's also going to be White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt. Turning Point usa. This is the Turning Point tour over at gwu. The campus is all set. We're going to be heading over after this. And real America's Voice is going to be covering that live. So I know that you are going to be part of the pre show. Tell us what you're doing.

[B]

I am, yeah. So I'm really, really excited about this because I'm going to get to talk to the students and talk to, to the members of the GW of, you know, the Turning Point chapter and stuff. And I'm really excited to hear from these students about what Charlie has meant to them and give them the motivation, hear from them, you know, the inspiration they have to continue this mission. And you know, the same way Charlie poured into me and poured into so many others. I think it'll be incredible to hear some of those stories because that's what it's about and making them feel like they are heard that we will give them airtime and we support them. And so it's going to be really cool. I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like in the, in the lobby area doing all that. So it's going to be really fun. Jack, but you have a big part tonight. Tell us a little bit about that.

[A]

Well, yes, it's a, I'm sort of kicking things off and I'll. So the way I think the way it works is that they're have the national anthem, of course we're going to do that and then I'm going to come out, I'm going to speak, then we're going to have the chapter president speak and then Caroline and Erica are going to do sort of a sit down fireside chat. So, you know, I'm going to come out and I got to tell you, you know, people want me to get in on politics and this division, that division. But I got to tell you that all I can think about is the fact that it's only Thursday and that's where my head's at. And I think that that's where, that's where I'm going to end up being tonight. And to say that, you know, this isn't, it's not about politicians and it's not about elections and it's not about those things. It's about are we bringing people to the cross betting? Ray Harmony.

[B]

Amen.

[C]

Amen.

[A]

Thanks for being here with us Human Events Daily. And to all of you, we'll catch you later here live on Real America's Voice. For this is the turning point this evening. We'll see you very soon. Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have our permission to lay ashore.