Podcast Summary: Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec
Episode: AmFest Exclusive Interview w/Megyn Kelly & the Catholic Adoration Breakout (Dec 22, 2025)

Episode Overview

This episode brings together two major segments from the 2025 AmFest:

1. An exclusive, in-depth interview with Megyn Kelly touching upon the aftermath of Charlie Kirk’s tragic death, divisiveness within the conservative movement (especially over Israel), and recent high-profile feuds.
2. A panel and breakout on Catholic political action, focused on mobilizing Catholic voters and the religious dimension behind reengaging in public life, culminating in a discussion about Eucharistic adoration.

Through heartfelt conversation, candid debate, and faith-centered activism, Jack Posobiec and his guests unpack the personal, political, and spiritual currents shaping today’s conservative landscape.

Part 1: Jack Posobiec Interviews Megyn Kelly at AmFest

Remembering Charlie Kirk & Seeking Justice

• Megyn Kelly and Jack reflect on Charlie Kirk’s impact and tragic loss, highlighting both personal grief and community scale repercussions (03:33–07:17).
  • Jack Posobiec: “God snaps his fingers and shows you that you are not in control, that he is in control, that you are a spectator, you are a reactor. You are someone who is living out God's will.” (03:14)
  • Megyn Kelly, recalling seeing Erica Kirk alone backstage: “She shouldn't be alone. She should be with the love of her life. And that's why we have to make sure we get justice for the man who took him.” (04:42)
  • Discussion on the Christian view of seeking justice, especially capital punishment, distinguishing it from vengeance and emphasizing the value of the victim’s life.

Division in the Conservative Movement & the Israel Debate

• Central source of current division is the Israel question, which Megyn identifies as predating Charlie’s death but worsening after (08:07–10:39).
  • Megyn Kelly: “There just is [a rift]... It revolves around Israel. There just is. It's gotten worse without him. He was helping us navigate it.” (08:09)
• She describes how, in her time at Fox News, support for Israel was unquestioned, but after 10/7, the war changed things and conservative opinion split.
• Both Kelly and Kirk were Israel supporters but resistant to policing others’ opinions, refusing to act as “movement police.”

Responding to Public Criticism (Ben Shapiro and Bari Weiss)

• Megyn directly addresses Ben Shapiro’s public labeling her a “despicable coward” for not denouncing other conservatives (notably Tucker Carlson) in the Israel debate (10:55–13:28).
  • Megyn Kelly: “He had the nerve to call me a friend right before he called me a despicable coward...” (10:55)
  • She highlights her prior support for Shapiro and the irony of his attacks after a shared tour.
  • “I don't think we are friends anymore... with friends like that.” (12:34)
• She similarly rebuffs Bari Weiss’ “grandstanding” at AmFest, questioning her credentials in defending Turning Point or Erica Kirk (13:28–15:47).

The Candace Owens–Erica Kirk ‘Peace Summit’

• Megyn details her role in brokering the much-discussed sit-down between Candace Owens and Erica Kirk to resolve the public spat (16:24–22:49).
  • She emphasizes the importance of empathy, the complexity of the disputes, and describes private efforts for reconciliation as an alternative to social media outrage.
  • Megyn Kelly: “I actually felt...it was divine right order. And I have to tell you, Jack, I've prayed so many times...to Charlie and, and to God to give me the right guidance on how to handle this whole thing.” (18:28)
  • She explicitly defends the right to ask questions about the Israel angle, but is clear: “I want to make clear I don't think Israel had any role. I think Tyler Robinson killed Charlie.” (21:53)

Path Forward for the Conservative Movement

• Megyn advocates for unity, prioritizing America over foreign disputes, and denounces “bullies” on both sides (23:06–23:56).
  • Megyn Kelly: “We need to remember that the people who are literally killing us, like literally killing us, are the ones who are the true enemy. These crazy radical leftists are the ones about whom we need to worry, not our own side.” (23:44)

Memorable/Kinder Moments

• Jack shares how “The Kelly File” was a source of support for military personnel during his service (24:43–25:23).
• Light-hearted banter about a military “office pool” to guess Megyn’s dress colors on Fox, which leads to inside jokes about TV wardrobe policies (25:23–26:24).

Notable Quotes (with Timestamps)

• Jack Posobiec: “God snaps his fingers and shows you that you are not in control, that he is in control...” (03:14)
• Megyn Kelly: “It's about Israel. Those two [Ben Shapiro and Bari Weiss] are very pro ardent Israel activists, which is fine, but they don't get to dictate how the rest of us feel about Israel.” (13:30)
• Megyn Kelly: “We need to care about America. America first is the principle that will get us through.” (23:33)
• Jack Posobiec: “I'm on America's side. I'm on Turning Point side, and I'm on Charlie's side.” (26:51)

Part 2: Catholic Adoration Breakout Panel – Mobilizing Catholic Voters

The Catholic Action Network’s Impact (28:43–30:20)

• Presented by Marcus Tork & Cindy Catcherside.
• Dramatically increased disengaged Catholic Republicans’ voting rates.
  • From 20% in 2020 to 87% in 2024, using parish captains, coordinated communications, and ballot “chasing.”

Why Are Many Catholics Politically Disengaged? (33:21–36:00)

• Marcus Tork introduces “political pietism” – the notion many see politics as “too dirty,” avoiding the fray under a veneer of spirituality.
• Jose Pulido responds by emphasizing confidence and reframing political participation as an act of love:
  • “You can love via your vote. You can love via your conversation. You can do this.” (35:19)

Voting as a Catholic Duty & Act of Love (36:00–39:37)

• Jack Posobiec highlights the dangers of spiritual seclusion, noting the consequences of non-participation.
  • “If you don't come out, then Kamala Harris gets in. Because it is a binary. You have to look at politics as. It is not a vacuum. It is relative.” (36:44)
  • Cites attacks on traditional Catholics by progressive politicians.
• Shares a story: teaches his children public witness via the “Charlie Brown Christmas” special—Linus’ unashamed profession of faith in a secular world.

Church Teaching on Catholic Civic Involvement (39:37–40:57)

• Father John Parks: “To put it simply, it's your job.” (regarding laypeople’s role in bringing faith to the public square) (39:45)
• Unpacking “be salt and light”:
  • Jack Posobiec: “Salt and light are both change agents. They change the environment in which they're in.” (41:08)

Evangelization & Eucharist (43:08–44:48)

• Jose Pulido shares that effective evangelization "must start and end with love."
  • Emphasizes being seen by Christ in the Eucharist, and receiving hope to bring into public and political life.

The Role of Prayer for the Nation (44:48–46:21)

• Jack Posobiec describes the “America Praise” initiative: national prayer campaign for America's future.
• Links prayer to faith in truth, the restoration of society, and specifically praises Trump’s support for Marian devotion.

Key Panel Takeaways

• Mobilizing Catholic voters is possible when approached with love, confidence, and robust spiritual grounding.
• Catholics have a duty to participate publicly—not merely to safeguard religious values, but to reshape the nation's moral fabric.
• The challenge: Overcoming both fatalism (“political pietism”) and infighting to face the real threats to faith and freedom.

Timestamps for Key Segments

• 02:33 – Interview with Megyn Kelly begins
• 03:33 – Reflections on Charlie Kirk and justice
• 08:07 – Discussion: Conservative rift and Israel
• 10:55 – Megyn Kelly addresses Ben Shapiro criticism
• 16:24 – Behind-the-scenes story: Owens–Kirk summit
• 23:06 – Path forward for conservatives
• 25:23 – Jack’s military “Kelly File” story / lighter moments
• 27:05 – Catholic Action panel opens
• 28:43 – Catholic Action Network ballot chase overview
• 33:21 – Why Catholics avoid political engagement
• 39:45 – Role of laity (“It’s your job!”)
• 44:48 – “America Praise” and the role of prayer

Episode Tone & Style

• Honest, direct, and passionate. The tone is personal and occasionally combative, with moments of warmth and levity.
• Emphasis on community, duty, and faith, with both somber reflection and forward-looking optimism.
• Willing to tackle controversies head-on—especially around Israel, internal movement disputes, and public faith.

For listeners: This episode is a deep dive into the heart of conservative challenges in 2025—where personal loss, political rifts, faith, and the need for public Christian witness all intersect. Both segments offer not only candid analysis but also calls to action, unity, and prayer.