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BREAKING: New Epstein Polls And Russia - Ukraine Sitrep
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Jack Posobiec
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Jack Posobiec
A commentator, international social media sensation and.
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Unknown Commentator
Former Navy intelligence veteran. This is Human Events with your host Jack Posobec.
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Unknown Host
Christ.
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Unknown Commentator
Is Governor Murphy declaring a state of emergency in New Jersey due to the flash flooding and high levels of rainfall. And then here drivers in Westchester county. We are tracking reports of damage, flooding, water rescues. It's happening across the tri state area.
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Unknown Host
Passengers.
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Unknown Guest
I'm going to call this one in. I can't open the doors. It's not safe. Give me a second.
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Unknown Speaker
We're very pleased with where we are right now. We're collecting about $5 billion in tariffs.
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Unknown Host
A week and the numbers are going up.
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Unknown Speaker
We've collected over $100 billion of tariffs since President Trump took office. The dairy industry has now made a commitment to get rid of all dyes with by the end of 2026. And some of them are already taking action. Some of them already gotten rid of the dyes. We now have with this contribution, with this commitment. We now have about 40% of the food industry that's already made that commitment and 35% of the food industry was already had already gotten rid of the dies.
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Unknown Host
The days of the United States sending.
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Unknown Guest
Unlimited taxpayer dollars to defend Ukraine are over.
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Unknown Host
President Trump has made a very smart.
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Unknown Guest
Decision and an agreement with NATO which says Europe and Canada will pay for the weapons. The United States will manufacture them.
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Donald Trump
Very unhappy I am with Russia. We're going to be doing very severe tariffs if we don't have a deal in 50 days.
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Unknown Host
Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events daily. Today is July 15, 2025. Anno Domini folks. Ton of information and news coming out of the White House over the last really 24 hours. One of the biggest ones of course being this idea of new weapons packages for Ukraine. And so what I wanted to do is get in here for a little bit right off the start and talk about the situation report or give a sit rep on what's going on in Ukraine? There's also new Epstein polling out. We're going to get to that in just a little bit. But looking at Ukraine right now, specifically on the, specifically on the ground, when you look at the map, the real question is what will change? What has changed on the map? What has occurred in this, what we've called the Lava advance of the Russian military forces in those eastern speaking provinces, particularly with a few breakouts. And the question on a lot of analysts hands is, well, heads is that will this change anything strategically for Russia? Of course, we're seeing the Russian armed forces, they are beginning, they're continuing this strategy. They're continuing this strategy of what I've called it the Lava Advance. Others have called it the Lava Advance. It's war of attrition. So war of attrition means you steadily grind down the forces of the other side while continuing your advance, breaking out where you're able to. It is slow, it is devastating. What you're seeing is steady pressure, destruction of infrastructure, and you're going after those reserves. So when people look at the map, they say, wait a minute. So when you see this map here, it says, hey, there's, there's, you know, not much change on this map since 2022 or 2023. You know that. Does that mean that Russia isn't, isn't doing anything? Does that mean they've held off? And I say, well, what are you not seeing on the map right there? What you're not seeing are the numbers of the Ukrainian reserves, the numbers of the manpower. So you're talking about Bradley's, you're talking about Himars, you're talking about MTVs, you're talking about strikers, talking about all of this equipment. But here's the point. The desertion rate there reports, the desertion rate is now at 70% for the Ukrainian military. There are people who are getting drafted and conscripted in their 40s, even older. You're looking at the ages of some of these. These units are going higher and higher and higher. And guess what? Anyone who can get out is. I just saw a video the other day of a woman who died trying to prevent her son from being conscripted and grabbed by these recruiters off the street. The time will tell whether or not this new technology, these new arms really are able to change anything on the ground in Ukraine.
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Donald Trump
Our way and our golden age has just begun.
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Unknown Commentator
This is Human Events with Jack Posobec.
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Unknown Host
Now it's time for everyone to understand what America first truly means. Welcome to the second American Revolution. All right, Jack Posoba, Here we are back live Human Events daily back in Washington D.C. after the turning Point Student Action Summit we held down there in Tampa, Florida. Massive, massive event. Tens of thousands of students, some, some, some, what do they say? Lifelong students as well. But you know, the predominant, I would say demographic there was, you know, was definitely in the college age range and even younger, even high school as well. And so huge shout out to Charlie Kirk. He's done it again, folks. Charlie Kirk has done it again in terms of being able to hold one of these, one of these incredible summit, getting the students together, getting and by the way, lively debates on a number of issues. Israel, Iran, Epstein. So many of these things came up and I started a little debate of my own that went pretty viral online regarding what is an American. Interesting folks. This year gold hit an all time high at 3,800 bucks and silver is trading near $40 an ounce. And with the uncertainty of war, inflation, interest rates and, and the all in all the tariff news, the sky is literally the limit when it comes to these precious metals. And people always ask me, okay post, how do I get involved? The answer is simple. We're talking Allegiance Gold. Now, whether you're a collector looking for the best pricing in the metal space, precious metal space, or looking to protect your future, it doesn't matter if it's $5,000 or $5,000,000. Now is the time to act. Just go to protect with poso.com to get started. Now, Allegiance Gold has the top ratings in the industry. I've been partnering with them for years. When you go to protect with poso.com right now or call 844-577-POSO. You can move parts of your 401k IRA or savings into real physical gold and silver and you may qualify for up to $5,000 in free silver. And with the way market is looking, that free silver could be worth a lot more by the time it arrives securely at your doorstep. Call 844-577 poso or visit protectwithposo.com that's 844-577-776 or protect with poso.com it's smart, secure and simple. Call 844-577-776. Now folks, I wanted to get into of course, the information regarding Epstein, Epstein files, Epstein list, et cetera, et cetera. I gave a huge speech, it was the first words out of my mouth at the student action summit over the weekend. And obviously it just became one of those stories that I would say it really took over the entire event, took over the entire summit in many ways. Of course, there were a few other breakout moments as well. But this was the story that I think dominated the headlines. Certainly dominated the headlines out there in the world. And so we've got a couple clips. President Trump was asked about Epstein a few times just a few minutes ago. By the way, I want to also point out Nikki Haley of all people. Nikki Haley says release the Epstein files and let the chips fall where they may. This is why people don't trust government. You can never go wrong with being transparent. Redact victims names, but release the rest. There's Nikki Haley. Even a bird brain is coming up on this one. So she put that out. Guys, if we have those clips of the President, I'd like to get his, I'd like to get that up for everyone right now.
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Unknown Speaker
Mr. President, your daughter, Mr. President, your daughter in law said that there should be transparency in the Epstein case.
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Unknown Host
Do you agree with her, sir?
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Donald Trump
The Attorney General has handled that very well. She is, she's really done a very good job and I think that when you look at it, you'll understand that. I would like to see that also. But I think the Attorney General, the credibility is very important and you want credible evidence for something like that. And I think the Attorney General has handled it very well.
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Unknown Commentator
The Attorney General briefed you on the DOJ and FBI review, the findings of that review.
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Donald Trump
The Attorney General briefed you on what?
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Unknown Commentator
On the, on the DOJ and FBI.
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Donald Trump
On what. On what subject?
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Unknown Commentator
Fc On Epstein of the review of the files.
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Donald Trump
Attorney General Pam Bondi, a very, very quick briefing.
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Unknown Commentator
Did she tell you what did she tell you about the review? And specifically, did she tell you at all that your name appeared in the.
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Donald Trump
No, no, she's, she's given us just a very quick briefing and in terms of the credibility of the different things that they've seen. And I would say that, you know, these files were made up by Comey, they were made up by Obama, they were made up by the Biden. You know, we, and we went through years of that with the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax with all of the different things that we had to go through. We've gone through years of it, but she's handled it very well and it's going to be up to her. Whatever she thinks is credible, she should release. Yeah.
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Unknown Host
So, okay, right there at the very end, I want to. Want to be clear on that. He just said whatever she thinks is, is credible, she should release. Now you're also seeing that refrain come out now from Nikki Haley. We also saw, I'm told by the way, that my good friend Benny Johnson just had a sit down with Speaker Mike Johnson. And Speaker Mike Johnson said that we should put everything out there and just dropped as the show began. Appreciate it, Benny, for counter programming us here. I'm for transparency. We should put everything out there and let the people decide. Pam Bondi needs to come forward and explain to the American people, let's get this thing revolved. So that's speaker of the House Mike Johnson also calling for Attorney General Pam Bondi to release information as well as President Trump. Also remember at the very end there. So at first he mentions that he's supportive of AG Bondi's role in all of this, but he also says at the end that she should release whatever she deems credible. So want to put that all out. Also, by the way folks, we were tracking that President Trump was going to be holding this AI event at some point. Today was originally scheduled for 2:30. So we're told that's now been pushed back to 3:30. So that means I got a whole lot more time on the show today, which is great. And we've got a certain amount of time just left in this segment. So I want to go in through a little bit more of the, the polling data that's starting to come out from a variety of sources on this because we're really seeing, really seeing the numbers pour out. And I wonder, I wonder if this is why Speaker Johnson, Nikki Haley and others, even the president himself are starting to now call for more information to come out. We saw. So according to so this is on the idea about the Epstein files, Jeffrey Epstein, so the Democracy Institute has put out a poll of 1500 likely voters in that and the Democracy Institute, by the way, and the national polls will tell you over there with Raheem Kassam that they have a lot of credibility with the, a lot of credibility with the right. And it says out of Trump 2024 voters who believes that no files exist or no list exists, only 21% of voters, Trump 2024 voters agree with that. For Harris 2024 voters, only 28% believe this is key. New voters for 2024, this is new voters, only 18% of new voters. So those were those new low prop voters who are coming into the system, getting involved in 2024 for the first time. Only 18% of them believe that no list exists. When you go to independents, obviously a larger group that's 27%. And so you're just seeing this across the board as well as, as well as with let's see here. Coming down, Voters agree versus Disagree. Voters agree versus Disagree. You're seeing the exact same thing. Voter groups agree disagree. 20, 24 voters, 67% disagree with this decision on the Epstein list. For Harris voters, 58% agree. So for the first time you see Trump supporters and Harris supporters actually agreeing on the same thing. Then when it comes to new voters, 72% disagree. Independents 60% disagree. Interestingly enough, it is upper class voters are split 48, 48 agree disagree. That is the only group for which there exists a split down the middle is the highest support for keeping the list secret. Middle class 44% working class all the way down at 26%. Folks, this is a story that when you're looking at the polling for it is really tells the tale. Jack Boba, Human Events Daily. We'll be right back.
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Donald Trump
You talk about influencers. These are influencers and they're friends of mine. Jack, where's Jack? Jack he's got a great job.
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Unknown Host
All right, Jack Posobic, we are back live here Human Events Daily in Washington, D.C. but what I want to do also because we're waiting for President Trump now, he was originally slated to speak in just 10 minutes time at this AI conference there in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. That's been pushed shifted to the right just a little bit. But remember, of course the president always is never late. The president is always on time. But we've got real America's Voice correspondent Michelle Backus there on the ground in Pittsburgh to give us an update. Michelle, tell us what is going on.
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Michelle Backus
Jack, a bit of breaking and definitely exciting news this morning. We were told that there'd be about $70 billion worth worth of new investment here in the Keystone state. However, Senator McCormick just announced a little bit ago that number actually now $90 billion worth of new investment here in Pennsylvania. This comes as the summit is happening right behind me. You can see here the room is packed as everyone is awaiting President Trump. You mentioned that he was supposed to speak in just a little bit that time. Now getting pushed back as there's only standing room in this building waiting to hear hear that announcement. Really exciting news for Pennsylvanians especially, including you and I, Jack.
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Jack Posobiec
Well that is huge.
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Unknown Host
So is there any idea, you know, what types of jobs that's going to translate over to? I mean I remember being out there on the campaign trail, people, you know, Carnegie Mellon graduates were talking about this. People in Southwest PA were talking about this. Actually went to that event that that Elon Musk held out there. And this was a huge, huge topic of discussion.
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Michelle Backus
Yeah, so it's going to be a lot of data centers and investment. So a lot of investment coming from other companies pouring into the Pittsburgh and ultimately the Pennsylvania area as well. This is a abundant area for data centers to be built. Again, that's what's ultimately going to power those AI chips and power the AI revolution as well. You're going to see a lot of new jobs here and investment in that sector. There are over 60 CEOs here from major companies, including Larry Fink. You have BlackRock, Blackstone, ExxonMobil. You had Google. You also had better here as well. It's a pretty big investment you have to consider as well. Pittsburgh especially was in the middle of the Industrial Revolution. Now we're seeing another industrial revolution in the air front and a lot of leaders around the country hoping for their chance to have the Silicon Valley of the East. Nonetheless, though, many people saying that it's going to be right here in Pittsburgh, especially as they look to develop more AI technology here and build those data centers as well to house the development needed.
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Unknown Host
Now. Michelle, can you run us down some of the, some of the names or some of the companies that are expected to be there today?
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Michelle Backus
Exxon Mobil, we also have Larry Fink, we have BlackRock and Blackstone. We also had a panel that was actually moderated by Google Alphabet BET CEO as well. You also have members from President Trump's cabinet that are going to be here. Doug Burgum, you even have David Sachs, the crypto czar that's going to be here. So a long list of people. You have foreign investment as well. Everyone has eyes right now on Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. And this comes especially as you look at the energy rich resources of the state. I mean, we are the second largest producer of natural gas in the country behind Texas. Third in coal mining, abundant lands. We're also looking at nuclear capabilities as well. This really is a rebirth, I would say, of a city that a lot of areas are run down, dilapidated after many steel mills closed down I'd say in the mid-1970s. Now there's a chance for that to pick back up. And nonetheless it's happening here at Carnegie Mellon University, which if you know anything about Carnegie Mellon, it's a stem hub. Extremely smart people coming here and innovating tech for the future. I want to take a look right behind me to Jack so you can see just how important this is because this room, again, the President isn't set to speak here for I would say another hour and a half. But this room is packed, standing room only, people really getting in here early to ensure they have a seat. You can see the panel up there. Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania Energy and Innovation Summit. This also comes hand in hand as Senate Bill 939 was introduced by Senate Republic applicants to help fast track that AI development and make it easier for companies to create that development here in the Keystone State.
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Jack Posobiec
So, you know, it's, it's interesting that.
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Unknown Host
You mentioned energy, by the way, because the fact that Western Pennsylvania is such an energy nexus when they talk about AI. One of the biggest issues that I always hear associated with this is energy generation and the fact that these data centers, these power centers are going to require so much energy to be able to be run. And I wonder if that's going to be part of the topic of discussion. Obviously, crypto, this plays right involved with that, the same idea. You need these huge data centers to be able to run this, this stuff. So I wonder, do you think there's going to be any discussion of that nexus? Probably. That's why Doug Bergen would be there. Between the energy and the data creation power that you supply, that you're going to need.
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Michelle Backus
Yeah, that's actually going to be a central point and I think it's going to be hit on, especially up here on this stage. But you think about how Pennsylvania is positioned in Pittsburgh as well. We're surrounded by rivers, we have abundant land, we have the capabilities for nuclear facilities, we have the capability to use water. And also you look at the energy exporters, we are the second largest natural gas exporter behind Texas, one of the larger, largest in one of the, I would say top 5 to 10 in the nation or not the nation in the world. Nonetheless, though, you look at all of those things coming together, this is a good area in which you can build those data centers. Because keep in mind, even remember when the CEO of Chat GPT said stop using manners when you're using the algorithm because it takes so much energy just for one user to use AI. So that's why it's going to be especially important to build out that infrastructure. Because, look, AI isn't going anywhere. I think we all know that it's only going to increase. So it's an important thing here to adapt and be ready for it rather than run from it. That's going to be a key point here that they're going to be talking about today.
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Jack Posobiec
All right, Michelle, now I got to.
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Unknown Host
Ask because you know, everyone knows my favorite governor in all of the United States. Probably my favorite politician in the entire world, of course, is Governor Josh Shapiro. Little Josh Shapiro, five foot three out of Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. Got to ask, with all of the focus on Pennsylvania, with all of the corporate innovation that's there, even some of the corporations I'm not a huge fan of, like blackrock and Blackstone are there. Is Josh Shapiro in attendance? Have you spotted him? You might have to, you know, crouch down a little bit to see him there.
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Michelle Backus
Oh, you mean your best friend, right? Well, I can tell you I haven't seen him yet, but I am told that he is here. You also see Senator John Fetterman that is applauding this and participating as well. And look, John Fetterman got his start in politics by being mayor of Braddock. Braddock is one of those abandoned steel towns outside of Pittsburgh that was completely dilapidated once the steel mills left. And he tried to revamp that. And ultimately, I don't know how he got to the Senate, but somehow that. That shows you where the Democrats are at. Nonetheless, though, I really can't understand how this couldn't be a bipartisan issue. Senator McCormick said he's welcome to working with anyone on either side because it's all about bringing the economy and industries back to Pennsylvania. We have so many opportunities, including our workforce as well, to do that. So, really, if you aren't on board with this, I really can't imagine that you're rooting for your state in general. But I haven't seen your best friend yet, Jack. If I do see him, though, here today, I'll make sure, sure to tell him you said hi.
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Jack Posobiec
Please do.
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Unknown Host
And maybe, maybe Senator Fetterman could put Josh Shapiro up on his giant, you know, Bigfoot shoulders there so we could look over the crowd. Michelle, we gotta run. We're just about out of time. But I'm sure Real America's Voice will come right back to you as soon as it starts, folks. Right back. Human Events Daily.
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Unknown Guest
Jack.
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Donald Trump
Where's Jack? Where is he? Jack, I want to see you.
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Unknown Guest
Great job, Jack.
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Jack Posobiec
Thank you.
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Donald Trump
What a job you do. You know, we have an incredible thing. We're always talking about the fake news.
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Jack Posobiec
And the bad, but we have guys.
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Donald Trump
And these are the guys should be getting policies.
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Unknown Host
All right, Jack Paso. But here we are, live Human Events Daily. Now, folks, we are waiting for President Trump to begin that AI conference up there in Pittsburgh. But while we do, I have a couple more interviews that we snagged while on the sidelines of Turning Point Student Action Summit down in Tampa and was Very honored to actually sit down with Senator Bernie Moreno of the great state of Idaho. Excuse me, the great state of Ohio. Want to throw to that now?
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Jack Posobiec
All right, Jackobic here.
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Unknown Host
Human events daily on the sidelines of.
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Jack Posobiec
The Turning Point Student Action Summit. What an incredible success. Success. And it's only because of such a great success, because of the support of so many people out there who have come to visit. And then also that's what's attracted such.
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Unknown Host
High level and high profile individuals such.
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Jack Posobiec
As our guest right here, Senator Bernie Moreno from the great state of Ohio. Thanks so much. Thanks for having me back on the show, Senator. Now, President Trump, you know, they say, they say presidencies, they only really get, you know, maybe one, maybe two signatures, pieces of legislation. The Trump tax cuts were the one the first time around. This time around, it's the big beautiful bill which enshrines the tax cuts. But it goes a bit further. One of the things that our audience has been really focused on like a laser beam is this ICE budget. We say this essentially 20 x's the ICE budget. You've been a champion for the BBB. Tell us, why was it so important to give ICE that funding? The left, of course, went absolutely bonkers. And I said, wow, you guys are the best salesmen for this thing because of how nuts they went. I said, wait a minute, you guys are turning ICE into a budget that's, you know, higher than any law enforcement agency in the country. And I said, quite frankly, it's, it's needed. But walk us through some of those deliberations and why you came out so strongly for it.
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Unknown Guest
Yeah, no, absolutely. Well, look, you got it. We got to remember, because it's hard to, to, because we've probably put that in the past. What happened during Biden.
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Jack Posobiec
Yes.
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Unknown Guest
So during Biden, you had millions of people that came across our border. And Jack, as you know, to come across the border is pretty darn easy. You come across the border, we don't send you back. They didn't send you back. During Biden, you cross the border, you raised your hand, you claim asylum. We gave you an airline ticket, we gave you housing, we gave you health care, we gave you food. It was like getting a lottery. So it was so easy to get people and millions of people now to get people out. It's really, really, really hard to get one human being out of this country with all the due process that the Democrats expect. It takes multiple people to do it, tons of hours of man time. That translates into cost. We had up until the Big, beautiful bill. We had 5,000 ICE agents. Tell me how 5,000 people across the entire country, the entire United States of America, we had 5,000 ICE agents to deport 20 million people. So tell me how you do that.
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Jack Posobiec
We have cities with larger police forces than that.
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Unknown Guest
By the way, the Capitol Police has more than 5,000 people.
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Jack Posobiec
I'm sure they do.
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Unknown Guest
Right. So it's impossible. And then make it even worse, these sanctuary cities, when they arrest an illegal, rather than saying, hey, this guy's in our jail. Come get him, so that one person can go get that one criminal, they would set that person free. So now you need a team of people and cars and backup and investigations to go get that one person.
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Jack Posobiec
Well, and when you take out. And that's. That's the ICE detainer, when you take that out of the system, what you're.
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Unknown Host
Doing is you're increasing your grad. You're.
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Jack Posobiec
You're drastically increasing the risk to those agents and quite frankly, possibly to anyone else in the community where they might be living, because you don't know if someone's going to be armed. You don't know. In many cases they are. You don't know what is going to be facing those agents. And we just saw, you know, a couple of days ago here in Los Angeles, where they were taking shots at ICE agents conducting an enforcement activity. So it's so much safer, by the way, even for the individual being detained in a situation like that, then to put them in another situation. And yet these. These sanctuary cities, which. And by the way, my hometown was turned into. Into a sanctuary city in Pennsylvania years ago. And it's just completely been lost.
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Unknown Host
Completely lost.
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Jack Posobiec
So I see what this does to towns, but it's also something where you're seeing the effect on the officers as well.
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Unknown Guest
Yeah. Let me just. We have to remember why this matters so much. Yes. It's not just that you have people that broke into our country that is offensive enough, but it's driven up our home prices, driven up our car prices, our insurance prices, made our cities dangerous, and it lowered drastically American wages. So we have to reverse that. So we got to do is also remember that human trafficking, sex trafficking, child trafficking and drug trafficking, money laundering is now all one criminal enterprise that's hiding behind front companies and what looks to be legitimate businesses. That's really hard for ICE to go after. So we had to give them the resources. Going to take a while, but it's the most important thing we got going. But here's the good news. There's nobody Else coming in, the faucet stopped, the bleeding has ended. We've had zero paroles into America last month. Zero, Jack, zero. Imagine if I was on your show last year, a year ago, and said President Trump is going to get it so that not one human being is released into America. You'd say that's impossible?
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Jack Posobiec
I would say, well, Senator, I mean, I'm sure he'll do a lot, but.
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Unknown Host
You know, he's not going to get the zero.
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Jack Posobiec
That's just not, it's not possible.
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Unknown Guest
Or bring Encounters down by 95% Right. In the first six months. And that's before we gave them the money. Now with the money, we're going to, as Hakeem Jeffries would say, we've turbocharged the effort.
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Jack Posobiec
What do you say? You don't have ice on steroids. Yes, we are.
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Unknown Guest
Yes, we are.
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Jack Posobiec
Yes, we are. Yes, we are.
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Unknown Guest
Stop selling the bill.
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Jack Posobiec
And to your point, to your point as well, on, on how it's become one enterprise is Gavin Newsom. I'm sure you saw Gavin News Newsom when, when they conducted this raid out in California and they were going to, it turned out it was a cannabis for a couple of cannabis farms and they were going after the, the workers and Gavin Newsom said, hey, you can't use tear gas down there. There's kids in there. Wait a minute, what are, what are miners doing working on a cannabis field? Okay, it's legal in California, whatever. But the point is, why are there miners working there? And it turns out it turned out the miners, I believe, because I saw DHS put out, that they turned out to also be illegals. And I think that speaks to the truth of what you're saying. This is an operation.
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Unknown Guest
Well, also, by the way, as somebody who's a legal immigrant to this country from South America, imagine they say, well, who's going to pick our crops? That's the same argument that was made during slavery, Jack. Yes, right. Look, they say, well, Americans won't do this work. They don't finish the sentence. They won't do this work for that wage and those working conditions. Right? Because, yes, we don't allow 14 year olds to go work 10 hours a day in this country. And that's a good thing, Right? Ironically, we're the party that protects workers rights, American workers, ability to earn an income. But when you're competing with people who are willing to basically get starvation wages, that's not what. We don't want to turn America into that. So look, this is the dirty little secret of the Democrats, they, they wanted cheap labor for their multimillionaire donors. And the party's over. We're going to restore law and order in this country. We're going to stop allowing people to come into this country illegally. And the message has got to be very straightforward. We'll eventually catch every illegal in this country and deport you. That's the message. So either you do it voluntarily and maybe with a big M, maybe we give you a path to come back in in some sort of legal way. But if we put hands on you and deport you, your family, anybody you ever know will never be allowed into this country again.
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Jack Posobiec
Well, and one of the economic forces that you just touched on, comparing to slavery, there's a big actual similarity here, because if you go back in time, the cotton gin was invented before the eradication of slavery in the country. But the reason it wasn't so rapidly and widely deployed in the south was because they. Of the laborers, they had it disincentivized industrialization of that process. So we have these. What do we need any machines for? You're seeing the same thing now with automation because we have so many. Just there's tomato pickers and all sorts of machines. I see you go to any farm show, you'll see all this stuff. But there's a disincentivization that goes on. And you're from the business world, you get this. They said, what do I need all that capital? Because that's a capital cost that you don't want to incur and you don't have to if you have this massive cheap labor force.
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Unknown Guest
Yeah. If you can bring a bunch of illegals here that will work for starvation labor and then hand those people off to the taxpayer and say, you take care of them, you cover their health care, you cover their education. Yes. You cover their housing. And then there's Americans going, hey, how about me, right? Like Springfield, Ohio, a town of 20, 30,000 people.
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Jack Posobiec
How is Springfield doing?
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Unknown Guest
Well, look, it's going to be doing a lot better now that we're going to get rid of the Haitians. So I gave the wrong numbers. A town of 50 to 60,000 people, people 18 to 30,000 Haitians come into that community of which maybe, maybe 500 had jobs. Maybe. And by the way, those 500 jobs belong to Americans first. Right. But now what are the other 18, 20,000 people doing, Jack? They're on government welfare services. That's for American citizens. Like, how insane is it that you're an elected official, that you swore an oath to protect and defend this country and the people in it. And you're giving away our money to people who broke into this country. How many people would you house in your, in your home that broke into your house?
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Unknown Host
Not a single one.
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Jack Posobiec
Notice.
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Unknown Guest
Of course not, because it's insane.
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Jack Posobiec
Well, and they, and they play these games and they'll, they'll talk about, oh, you know, and, and the Bible says, love your neighbor as, as if that's all the Bible says. There's a little bit more to it there, you know. And by the way, here's, here's what I say, you know, if, if someone comes here. Truly, truly, from the Christian, Christian perspective. I'm a Christian. I'm a Catholic. Right. And if someone comes around and they're truly starving, of course you feed them. That's my mother taught me. But if someone shows up, hundreds of people, thousands of people, and demands to be fed. No, no, that is, that is not charity. That is, that is force. That is not something we are compelled to do in any way. And it's, and at the end of the day, it's a question of. And actually, Senator. Well, former Senator J.D. vance had, Vice President Vance had this diatribe about this, of how even Thomas Aquinas talked about how when it comes to duty, you have a duty to your family, you have a duty to your community. As a senator, you have a duty to your constituents first.
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Unknown Guest
Well, look, you have a family. Of course you have to take care of them.
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Jack Posobiec
Yeah.
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Unknown Guest
So how insane would it be if you allowed your kids to starve, literally, and be homeless, but you took care of people who broke into your home? It's just illogical. And they say that that's compassion. It's not compassionate. It's actually very cruel to Americans and, by the way, very cruel to the migrants also.
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Jack Posobiec
And I said this on stage when I spoke. I said, look, you know, if we're going to talk about anything, it's got to be after the American people are made whole. American people have to be made whole first. And the mass deportations continue. This is so key. And meanwhile, by the way, when we look at President Trump's economic plans, talk to us a little bit about. So the cbo, right, was, of course, emerged as one of these big opponents. You're going back to the legislation saying it's going to tank the economy, it's going to destroy everything. You got tariffs on one hand, you got the BBB on the other. It's going to show everything. One week after the big, beautiful bill is signed. And I Was at the White House.
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Unknown Host
But got to see the B2s, the car.
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Jack Posobiec
Course, I wasn't going to go down, but then when I heard the B2s got said I brought the kids. Okay, we're going to go see the B2s. You'll appreciate this. My wife goes, which ones are the B2s?
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Unknown Guest
You'll know the big ones.
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Jack Posobiec
And, and, and. But this. Now all of a sudden, they come out and say, we have a surplus.
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Unknown Guest
Oh, yeah. Oops. It wasn't a $3.4 trillion deficit. It's actually, we actually cut it by 400 billion. Can you imagine being off by $3.8 trillion? But here's the headline. Look, this bill.
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Jack Posobiec
And no one's talking about that. No one's talking about that from.
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Unknown Guest
First of all, we defunded Planned Parenthood.
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Unknown Host
Amazing.
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Unknown Guest
Think about that for a second. For one year. But it's a start. A billion dollars we took out of their budget. Number two, child tax credit, $2,200. If it hadn't been for the bill, that would be zero. We preserve the standard deduction. No tax on tips, no tax on overtime, no tax on Social Security. This is the first bill that I know of that actually goes to putting American workers whole, to giving them the opportunity. So the number, by the way, this will blow your mind. The average Ohio family of four will get $7,500 in their pocket as a result of this bill. What we got, what we took away was $7,500 subsidies for millionaires to lease electric vehicles.
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Jack Posobiec
I love it.
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Unknown Guest
And Biden land and Democrats. You could get a check for $7,500 from the federal government if you lease an electric Porsche, an electric Rolls Royce. That's a true story. People on social media. That's not true. I'm like, Fact check it. 7,500 bucks for somebody at least a $600,000 Rolls Royce. This is now $7,500 for working Americans that due to Democrat policies over the last four years, couldn't afford to go out to eat, couldn't afford groceries, couldn't afford rent, couldn't afford a car.
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Jack Posobiec
Senator, I know you got to run, right? Before you go, I ask you a tough question. Do you think there's an appetite in the, of sense, Senate, in the Congress in general, for another big bill on, you know, coming through at all? Do you think that President Trump has the capital? Do you think it's possible? Are we going to see that before midterms?
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Unknown Guest
100%. In fact, I call it the second big beautiful bill, I already have it named.
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Jack Posobiec
Okay?
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Unknown Guest
We're going to get it done. We're going to get the tariffs in the legislation. So for the next president, we're going to make some of these working class programs last a little bit longer. We're going to do a lot of great things. Look, we have to, we got to turn this country around. It's an honor to be there serving along our great vice president, our great president. By the way, a year ago tomorrow could have been a whole different deal.
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Unknown Host
Amen.
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Jack Posobiec
Senator Bernie Moreno, thank you so much for joining us.
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Unknown Guest
Thank you.
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Unknown Host
All right, folks, so that was our sit down with Senator Bernie Moreno. And I really do want to point out something that Senator Moreno said there. Look, Ohio is, well, they're not a border state unless you consider their, you know, water border with Canada across the Great Lakes. But he pointed out that even in a state like that, even in a state like Ohio that's so far away from the southern border, illegal immigration is still a massive issue for them. And 5,000, only 5,000 ICE agents nationwide, smaller than the police force of major cities, smaller than the Capitol police force, was all they had for these deportation operations for 20 million, at least. 20 million people. It was a joke. It was ridiculous. So right now ICE has the ability, because what did we do? We just 20x the ICE budget. Now we have the ability to go and conduct more and more of these critical deportations. We'll be right back. Jack was soic with Erica Donald from AFPI with an update on education.
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Unknown Speaker
Turn it around and make our country.
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Unknown Host
Amen.
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Jack Posobiec
All right, Jack Wither, very excited to have once again here on the program.
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Unknown Host
Erica Donald.
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Jack Posobiec
Erica, thank you so much for being here in person. I think for the first time you've had.
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Unknown Commentator
First time in person.
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Jack Posobiec
And that's what's so great about doing events like this, where you can actually.
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Unknown Host
Get people together the. And, and realize that we all share these interests and we're all working on different aspects but getting towards the same goal.
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Unknown Commentator
Yes. And it's great to be in Tampa and at Turning Point with all of these excited, patriotic, young.
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Jack Posobiec
Not too far for you, right?
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Unknown Commentator
Not at all. But this is actually my hometown. I grew up in Tampa and yeah, we live about a couple hours south.
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Jack Posobiec
Okay, that's, that's great. That's great. My, my brother has moved here now.
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Unknown Host
He came down a couple of years ago, just fell in love with it.
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Unknown Commentator
It's, hey, it's the great state of Florida.
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Unknown Host
I mean, what's not to love?
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Jack Posobiec
I, I completely agree. I Want to, you know, we have you on talking about school choice so much. This, this Supreme Court case that just came down regarding which, which really opts into a sort of educational choice element regarding LGBT studies. Tell us, how big of a victory is this?
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Unknown Commentator
Well, the Mahmoud case, the one that you're referring to, now allows parents to opt their children out of objectionable content in the schools. It's shocking that it even had to go to the Supreme Court. But they made the right decision in allowing these parents for religious purposes to opt their children out of what was LGBTQ content in reading lessons. It wasn't a separate health lesson, but it was infusing this ideology throughout the core curriculum. Parents wanted to opt out. The school district said too many parents are opting out and it's disrupting the school day. This is, this is, this is what they said.
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Jack Posobiec
That was their.
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Unknown Commentator
That is what they stopped them from opting out. And parents sued. And these weren't, you know, MAGA parents. These were Muslim parents and Protestant parents. They were religious. Parents from that community in Maryland were saying that they wanted their children to be able to opt out from those lessons. I say this is actually a bigger issue, and it does give rise to what I think will ultimately be a Supreme Court case. If a parent can opt out of individual lessons because it doesn't align with their ideology or their religious beliefs or their values at home, why can't they opt out of the entire system, which we know is completely infused with left wing ideology and anti religious bias?
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Jack Posobiec
So is there any language in this ruling and in this opinion that would lend itself towards that? This is now precedent.
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Unknown Commentator
It is precedent. And the Supreme Court was very careful to be narrow in its ruling as they are. However, it does make sense, and I think we can very easily demonstrate that teachers, when they are off script or through, if you look at what the teachers union does in their trainings, it is absolutely infused with political and left wing ideology. And I know there are a lot of parents that are concerned that it's not just in the curriculum, but it's actually normalized in public schools. This left wing bias, the lgbtq, the gender ideology. And so many parents now are demanding the ability to opt out, but not just to opt out, but be able to take those funds with them and choose the education that they believe is fit for.
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Jack Posobiec
Well, I mean, it goes, it goes all the way back down to the teacher schools because, you know, I always.
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Unknown Host
Tell people, you know, you're worried about.
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Jack Posobiec
The school, you know, the schools, but it's, it comes down to. All right, think about it.
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Unknown Host
When you were in college, who were.
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Jack Posobiec
The people that you knew that were going to teaching school? Like it was always the leftists. It was always like the far lefties that you knew. The lefties. The lefties, those are the ones that were going up to be teachers. This is an issue, by the way, that, you know, I think at some point we're going to have to address on the right because we need some kind of response to that.
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Unknown Commentator
Well, and that's why in the schools that I have started, several classical schools here in Florida and states around the country, we do not hire graduates from teacher colleges for the most part. We hire math majors, science majors, history majors, English majors.
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Jack Posobiec
And then we used to be right.
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Unknown Commentator
Through a training program that helps them to teach in a classroom. But I would much rather even as a parent, have someone who is seeped in content expertise and then teach them how to teach that passion of theirs if they're passionate about history, rather than someone who's been indoctrinated through a teacher college and really doesn't even know mathematics themselves. To teach my children, it hasn't worked in the public schools. Obviously only a third of our children in America are reading and doing mathematics proficiently. So we need to do something different. We can start there, like you said, with where we're sourcing our teachers. But next up, and thanks to the one big beautiful bill, we're taking a huge step on being able to enact school choice across the country and bring free market competition so that parents are going to have multiple high quality options.
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Jack Posobiec
It's funny you mention about, about students in this country because so my, my wife comes from Eastern Europe originally and she kind of started her degree there but then she finished it here and.
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Unknown Host
She had a gap, etc. Not to get into all of it.
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Jack Posobiec
But she had some of the credits didn't transfer over so she had to take some American math classes at the college level. And she goes into the class because she's got to get the credit. And she goes in, she's. And she comes to me, she says sweetheart, like this is what you're teaching at a college level. She said, back home in Eastern Europe, this is what we teach to like freshmen high schoolers. This is, you know, not kids, but this is basic stuff and you're teaching it in college. You said it doesn't make any sense. To me.
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Unknown Commentator
It has been dumbed down. It's why dual enrollment is so popular because high performing high school students, we're actually outsourcing high school math to the community colleges and to the universities, allowing them to dual enroll and get college credit because the high school mathematics courses are not challenging enough for our brightest students and they have to move on and do college work. But that college work is, as you said, more like high school level. What, what our children should be learning in high school. And they're not, unfortunately. Even in grade levels, like 10th grade level mathematics, our students are not at a 10th grade level when they graduate high school. When we talk about our test scores, we're usually testing at a 10th grade level, not a 12th grade level where we say a third of our students are doing math proficiently.
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Jack Posobiec
Right.
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Unknown Host
And then so the those are going into college.
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Jack Posobiec
Then if they want to take anything with stem, you basically got to start at the beginning. They're totally unprofessional. You're behind anyone who's already coming ahead of that.
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Unknown Commentator
Yeah. And that's why we have to completely reform the system. I mean, people say that I want to destroy public education because I promote school choice and I promote the ability to vote with your feet and take the funding with you. And I say I'm not trying to actually destroy public education, but I am trying to destroy the monopoly that the government enjoys in public education, because the monopoly is what is lowering the quality for everyone. It does that in any industry. Why wouldn't it happen in education? And we're not getting the innovation and the quality and the access that we could have in a free market system. So thanks to President Trump, the school choice president, we're going to have a lot more opportunity for that in the future.
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Jack Posobiec
Erica Donalds, where can people go to follow you?
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Unknown Commentator
Rica Donalds, Erica with a K, no C on Twitter, on all social media, and ericadonalds.com if you want to get in touch with me. But definitely follow what we're doing because there are a lot of great wins, especially in the Trump administration, that are empowering parents to choose the education that's best for their children.
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Jack Posobiec
God bless.
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Unknown Host
Thank you so much.
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Unknown Commentator
Thank you.