COMMUNIST ABDUL EL-SAYED BLAMES CHRISTIANS FOR TRANS SCHOOL SHOOTERS

Summary

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Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec

Episode Title: "COMMUNIST ABDUL EL-SAYED BLAMES CHRISTIANS FOR TRANS SCHOOL SHOOTERS"
Date: August 11, 2026
Host: Jack Posobiec
Featured Guests: Michael & Evita Alfonso, Katie Zachariah, Dan O'Donnell

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on controversial remarks by Abdul El-Sayed, Michigan Democratic Senate candidate, regarding the 2023 Nashville Christian school shooting. Jack Posobiec provides an exclusive breakdown of El-Sayed's commentary, accusing him of blaming Christians and conservatives for the tragedy and advocating positions that align with far-left, even "communist," ideologies. The show features reactions and analysis from conservative political candidates, commentators, and local journalists, highlighting broader debates over gun rights, the direction of the Democratic Party, and the strategies for engaging Generation Z voters.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Abdul El-Sayed’s Comments on the Nashville Christian School Shooting

• Jack Posobiec plays and analyzes exclusive audio of El-Sayed addressing the 2023 shooting, in which the shooter was identified as trans.
• El-Sayed blames “unfettered access to guns” and recent anti-trans legislation (rather than the shooter's identity), advocates for “the right to have health care” over “the right to bear arms,” and suggests changing the Second Amendment.
• Posobiec characterizes these remarks as victim-blaming and emblematic of far-left ideology.

  "[El-Sayed] said that the epidemic of violence has nothing to do with trans people. He said that the fact that it was a trans shooter who's shooting up a Christian school had nothing to do with the fact that...the individual was trans." — Jack Posobiec (18:12)

2. Contrasting Campaigns: Alfonso Family (Wisconsin) vs. Progressive Candidates

• Michael & Evita Alfonso discuss their campaign for Congress in Wisconsin as a “family affair” and counterpoint to progressive agendas.
• Michael references his family's flight from communist Cuba as motivation to fight socialism.
• The Alfonsos emphasize traditional values, connecting with Gen Z, and offering "an alternative to this communist ideology."

  "My grandparents came to this country from communist Cuba. So when I hear these candidates...talking about socialism, I take it personally." — Michael Alfonso (04:00)

3. Winning Over Gen Z: The Importance of the Messenger

• Evita Alfonso argues that success depends on relatable candidates who can bring a hopeful message to young voters who are increasingly drawn to progressive candidates.

  "The messenger matters...Michael is able to represent a different idea for Generation Z...offer a different perspective on what America is and what it means and what it can be." — Evita Alfonso (05:09)

• Jack praises their family-first messaging as an alternative to “oppressor vs. oppressed mentality.”

4. Radicalization of the Democratic Party

• The guests contend that figures like Francesca Hong (Wisconsin) and El-Sayed represent the actual base of the Democratic Party, not its fringe.

  "Francesca Hong isn't the fringe. She actually is the base. She actually is the reality of what the Democratic Party has become, which is communist." — Evita Alfonso (07:53)

5. Long-term Strategy: Focus on Youth and Messaging

• The panel warns of the “danger” if conservatives don’t win over young voters in the next several election cycles.

  "If we don't win those young people in 5, 10, 20 years, the country is still massively in danger." — Michael Alfonso (09:52)

• Delivery of the American dream is argued as essential to winning this demographic ("Only desperate, unhappy people vote for Francesca Hong or AOC or Bernie Sanders." — Evita Alfonso, 10:27).

6. Gun Rights, Constitutional Protection, and Allegations of Communist Infiltration

• Katie Zachariah reacts to El-Sayed’s remarks, interpreting them as part of a deliberate agenda to undermine constitutional rights and pave the way for socialist/communist governance.

  "They don't want to actually hold people accountable...They want to blame...our Second Amendment rights, which is our biggest protection against communism." — Katie Zachariah (22:47)

• Jack references Chairman Mao’s stance on gun control, implying leftists seek to disarm the populace as a path to tyranny.

7. Cultural and Political Trends in Wisconsin: Francesca Hong’s Candidacy

• Dan O'Donnell provides on-the-ground perspective regarding the Wisconsin Democratic gubernatorial primary: Francesca Hong, labeled a socialist/DSA “true believer,” is expected to win the primary but is viewed as unelectable statewide due to her radical stances.

  “She doesn't particularly care for American civilization. Why has she been unable to walk back the video...where she says...I think it's time to bleeping 86 Trump? Because she believes this stuff.” — Dan O'Donnell (41:05)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On El-Sayed’s response to Nashville tragedy:

  “Christian children are dead. Funny how you don't seem to care that much when it's Christian children, Abdul.” — Jack Posobiec (18:12)

• Contrast of traditional vs. radical values:

  “The traditional values get married young, have kids young. This is the path to happiness. Not this oppressor versus oppressed mentality where you hate everyone and everything.” — Michael Alfonso (06:38)

• On Democratic Party’s direction:

  “This is actually what the majority of Democrats think...which is communist.” — Evita Alfonso (07:53)

• On socialism and envy:

  “Malignant envy...instead of raising myself up, I would say, no, we need to take Jack down so that he is more like everybody else...that's this concept of malignant envy. You know what? No, it's not you. It's society. We need to tear down society. And American society is worst of all.” — Dan O'Donnell (35:27)

• On the future of the Democratic Party if Hong wins:

  “If she wins this election...the DSA can then say, look, we're the future. We won in the ultimate swing state of Wisconsin. DSA candidates can win everywhere. We're going to primary every more moderate Dem...” — Dan O'Donnell (42:19)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [03:20-11:00] — Interview with Michael & Evita Alfonso:
  Focused on their campaign, values, and the alternative they provide for Gen Z.

• [15:08-18:12] — Exclusive Audio & Analysis of Abdul El-Sayed:
  Jack presents and critiques El-Sayed’s comments on the Nashville shooting and gun rights.

• [21:08-25:28] — Reaction with Katie Zachariah:
  Breaking down the left’s response, constitutional implications, and the alleged “long march through the institutions.”

• [30:49-37:22] — Conversation with Dan O'Donnell:
  Discussion on El-Sayed’s empathy for perpetrators, far-left ideology, and cultural trends in Wisconsin politics.

• [39:15-47:00] — Dan O'Donnell details the Wisconsin primary, Francesca Hong, and broader Democratic Party implications.

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Tone & Style

• The discussion is direct, urgent, and polemical, featuring strong conservative language.
• Jack Posobiec takes an investigative and occasionally combative role, seeking to expose what he characterizes as dangerous or extremist ideologies.
• Guests reinforce themes of tradition, family, and constitutional protection, contrasting them with socialism and perceived excesses of the Democratic left.

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In Summary

This episode of Human Events Daily leverages breaking, controversial remarks by Abdul El-Sayed to discuss wider ideological shifts in American politics, with an emphasis on the danger posed by far-left candidates according to the host and his guests. The dialogue is shaped by a sense of urgency about the need for conservatives to reclaim generational influence and defend both cultural and constitutional values, particularly in battleground states like Wisconsin and Michigan. For listeners, the episode offers a window into conservative fears regarding “mainstreamed” socialism, with a call to action for engagement and vigilance in upcoming elections.

Share this episode to spread awareness of Abdul El-Sayed's remarks and the growing influence of radical ideologies in American politics!

Transcript

[Jack Posobic]

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[Unidentified Supporter]

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[Jack Posobic]

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[Unidentified Supporter]

So.

[Jack Posobic]

So let's talk about another candidate who's running for office in Wisconsin. He's up on the ballot today. Here's a video video he and his darling wife just put out.

[Michael Alfonso]

We're finally here. August 11th. The big election this Tuesday. You know, it's really been the honor of a lifetime to go all around the district and earn the support of so many great Wisconsinites.

[Evita Alfonso]

We have been everywhere in the district as a family together. Parades, dairy breakfast, Traveling in negative 20 degree weather. Me nine months pregnant on rollerblades, going down parade routes.

[Michael Alfonso]

The most exciting thing by far that's happened on the campaign trail is Evita and I welcomed our new daughter into this world. I really do want to take the moment to thank all of the supporters out there. Thank you so much for believing in me, for trusting me with your vote. And you know, it's the final ask, please get out and vote Alfonso for Congress.

[Jack Posobic]

Well, and we got him right here. It's Michael Alfonso. And guys, how are you?

[Michael Alfonso]

Great, how are you? Thanks for having us on.

[Jack Posobic]

I feel like I'm on a roller coaster because we just, we just broke that story of the Michigan Senate candidates. Essentially victim blaming the Nashville Christian school, the massacre which took place in 2023 on conservatives on Christians for passing laws. And this is the guy who's running for Senate in Michigan. Now you guys over there in Wisconsin, we'll see what happens later today with your governor race. But you got another real, a real doozy, a real winner there with, with Francesca Hong. And then I, and then I see a video that you guys put out, I'm like, this is night and day. What is going on?

[Michael Alfonso]

Yeah, you know, my grandparents came to this country from communist Cuba. So when I hear these candidates across the country, especially in the swing states in the Midwest, talking about socialism, I take personally, you know, it's really important to have that alternative to this communist ideology. Having some young patriotic people who are out there showing that you can actually go places and still love your country.

[Jack Posobic]

I mean, it's, it's, it's really as simple as that. Now, now, Michael, I know, you know, you guys are on the campaign trail. You're, you're running around a lot. I understand you guys were, you did a mass this morning. I'm sure you hit the polls. I'm sure you're going to be out there again. What's, what's the mood? What's the vibe?

[Michael Alfonso]

It feels great. You know, you never know what's going to happen in a low turnout primary because you don't know whose people are going to show up. But the people I've been talking to, even at our little local diner, the Blue Willow in Wausau, Wisconsin, people are excited to get out there. And vote and give President Trump another two years in office. Because make no mistake, if these Democrats get into office, nothing will happen for the next two years.

[Evita Alfonso]

And Jack, something that Michael and I talk about a lot when we're dealing with these DSA crazy lunatic candidates is if we're going to bring back young people because these candidates are winning, because they're winning young people, the messenger matters. And that's why I think Michael's race is so important. He is able to represent a different idea for Generation Z. He's able to win them back over, offer a different perspective on what America is and what it means and what it can be.

[Jack Posobic]

I mean, it's, it's so simple. And, and I love what you guys are doing. And I, I, I would say, you know, and I said to somebody recently, this week, it's, it's, what you guys are doing is walking in, you're walking in the path of Charlie Kirk. And what I mean by that is Charlie's agenda was the opposite of the sort of DSA tear everything down. Mondami El Sayed, Francesca Hong agenda of destroy the society and tear it all apart. What, what Charlie always talked about was, you know, as obviously he said, get married, have kids, which obviously you guys have done during the campaign. So you took that quite literally, by the way. And, and it's, it's just, I think, to me, showing Gen Z that there is another path. And it may perhaps be a, you know, a path that requires a little bit more work, a little bit more effort, obviously, a lot taking anything away from Evita there, but not just a little work, more than, more than a little. But it's, it, it's, it's ultimately better. Do you know what I'm saying?

[Unidentified Supporter]

Yeah.

[Michael Alfonso]

You know, this is why I think it's so important out in the world for young people to see people like Evita and I and really just assess who seems happier. Evita and I, or Abdul Said or Francesca Hong, who has claimed many times that she has mental illness and, and anxiety from white people at Culver's. This is, this is a stark contrast we offer the alternative. We're saying, look, the traditional values get married young, have kids young. This is the path to happiness. Not this oppressor versus oppressed mentality where you hate everyone and everything.

[Jack Posobic]

Look, it's, it's, it's really as simple as that. You know, Evita, you, you know, you're a young mom, you've had a kid during the campaign. I can't even imagine that. And you went like, right. You went from, you were I think roller skating in that video like, like while pregnant and you're roller skating and, and then suddenly has baby and you're like right back on the trail. You haven't skipped a beat. Obviously you come from a big family. But just, just what is it like to, to go through all that and sort of be living in the public

[Evita Alfonso]

eye less than a week postpartum, Jack, I was back on the campaign trail. I mean this, this is a family affair. All, all our baby has known is campaigning

[Dan O'Donnell]

along.

[Evita Alfonso]

I love the phrase right. Just, you just do things like you can't just do things like you don't. Parenthood, motherhood doesn't, doesn't constrain you or constrict you in the way that I think a lot of feminists will like to claim. It's so I am, I am out here beside my husband 100% and it's been, it's been beautiful, it's been a joy and it's been motivating to see what's happening with Francesca Hong. And so, so many of these DSA candidates, Jack, because they don't just want to bring about equity, which is of course equitable suffering. They hate Halloween, they hate firework, they hate our society, they hate our way of life. So to me it's, this is a civilizational run. This is not just about Michael and Michael's race. We, we want to run to, to fix our country, to save our country. Bring it back from the, bring it back from the brink. Because I just want to say this, Jack, the radicals that are running right now, Francesca Hong has a lot of pushback from the establishment in Wisconsin because they know she's going to be a difficult candidate to actually make through the general because she's so radical in a swing state like Wisconsin. But they are perf. Fine with those radicals in California. They will get, they want to push for as far left as they can when they can get away with it. This is where the base of the Democratic Party is. This is actually what the majority of Democrats think. And so I just, I think we have to be really clear eyed about that. Francesca Hong isn't the fringe. She actually is the base. She actually is the reality what the Democratic Party has become, which is communist.

[Jack Posobic]

Well, and Michael, to kind of pull that in. You know, you're there, you're in the district, you're born and raised in the district. How have these ideas and these statements and obviously they've been getting a lot of press. I've been Doing my part to make sure that they get exposed. With Francesca Hong and now El Sayed, are people hearing when you're going out to the diner, when you're going out to these parades, are people responding back to you saying, oh, my gosh, I've heard this stuff? Is it permeating? I guess is what I'm saying, yes, it is.

[Michael Alfonso]

And I mean, the scary thing is that the left is actually sort of for this. They see nothing wrong with it. But the people on the right and here in the 7th district were very, very conservative. They're alarmed. They're more than excited to go volunteer at parades. Anything they can do to stop this movement of communism. But I really think the key is winning the young people. That's where this, this movement is taking hold. And, you know, we might fight it back this election, but if we don't win those young people in 5, 10, 20 years, the country is still massively in danger.

[Evita Alfonso]

And it's not just winning them back by telling them how bad the reality of the world will be if Francesca Hong and Abdul are in charge, but it's also delivering for young people because they feel despair. Only desperate, unhappy people vote for Francesca Hong or AOC or Bernie Sanders. You need to deliver the American dream for young people. That's the Trump agenda. That's America first, that's maga. We have to deliver if we actually want to win them back.

[Unidentified Supporter]

Back.

[Jack Posobic]

Look, and I, I said this as well. And you know, you guys have been excellent Gen Z whisperers for me on the program as well, because, you know, it. I just start from a position of when it comes to Gen Z, it comes to any generation. Right. Or just people in general, that if you want to learn what's going on, the first thing you have to do is listen and not lecture. And it sounds like that's exactly the way that you guys have approached this race.

[Unidentified Supporter]

Yeah.

[Michael Alfonso]

You know, everything I hear from young people is, how am I going to afford a home and how am I going to have a job that supports a family? Now the left has that sexy pitch of we'll give it all to you for free. My family from communist Cuba and Evita's family from Spain, who also dealt with a communist problem. We know what the cost of free is. It's the cost of your country. And telling young people that, that, yeah, you know, the solution isn't great. We need to cut government spending and we need to encourage businesses to grow. It's not quick, it's not an easy answer, but it's the only answer to save the country.

[Jack Posobic]

No, it's, it's really as simple as that. Guys, I know you got to get back out there on the trail. I hope it's not as warm out there as it is right here. But tell people where they can go to get more information where to sign up to vote.

[Michael Alfonso]

Alfonso4wisconsin.com you can find out everything right there.

[Evita Alfonso]

And we'll accept prayers because today is the election. So if you have prayers, send them our way.

[Jack Posobic]

I'm sending them your way. I woke up thinking to you guys, praying for you guys. God bless and I'm sure the Lord will. The Lord will work his will. Jack Posobic, right back here. Real America's Voice. Human Events daily. This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.

[Evita Alfonso]

A commentator, international social media sensation and former Navy intelligence veteran.

[Unidentified News Anchor]

This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobic.

[Jack Posobic]

Christ is king.

[Unidentified News Anchor]

And Trump responds to Iran's new demands. The regime asking for compensation for damages in order to reopen the Strait of Hormuz. The president responding with his own, citing American soldiers hurt or killed as well as Iranian protesters. Let's start with the news of the executive order itself, Monica, because it's significant. Basically overhauling the federal recommendations, the guidelines now for childhood vaccine schedules. And this is something that the president has really been previewing since almost his first day in the second term.

[Katie Zachariah]

This does in effect up and the childhood vaccine schedule. And it comes from President Trump and several others in this event just now making claims without evidence, continuing to link autism potentially with childhood vaccines.

[Unidentified News Anchor]

Constant's progressive socialist frontrunner is now facing a growing challenge from within her own

[Katie Zachariah]

party and learning even the left has its limits. Francesca Hong, a card carrying member of the Democratic Socialists of America.

[Dan O'Donnell]

All I know is who I don't support. Okay, tell us.

[Michael Alfonso]

Viet Cong

[Jack Posobic]

communist piece of.

[Unidentified Commentator]

All right. As we look ahead to the map, seven Democrats do appear on the ballot, including Joel Brennan. But all the attention now is on these two. As results come in tomorrow night, we'll be closely watching. How does David Crowley perform in Milwaukee County? How does Francesca Hong perform in Dane County? And who does best out state as these results come in in this chaotic Democratic primary for governor.

[Unidentified Supporter]

Thank you, Donald Trump, for continuing to talk about me, for keeping me at the top of your mind. I hope that you learn how to say my name appropriately. And the one thing he did say is he called me a lovely gentleman, which is kind of weird. It's in keeping with how he feels about Mamdani and others. I don't really know what his fetish is, but we'll have to figure it out.

[Jack Posobic]

Maybe you should go visit him in the Oval Office and find out. Or talk to Mamdani.

[Unidentified Supporter]

I think what he's afraid of is that I'm not afraid of him and he knows it. So, you know, people like that have a sense of people who are willing to stand up to him, which is why he's trying to preempt now. So, Danny, if you're watching, I've got bigger hands than you. I've got a better agenda than you. I'm going to beat your guy. And I'm looking forward to reminding you of that for two years when I'm in the US Senate.

[Jack Posobic]

Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily. We're here live on Real America's voice. Today is August 11, 2026. Anno Dominique. Well, anti ice candidates Abdul El Sayed is now facing fresh scrutiny after winning the Michigan Democrat primary. And we here at Human Events have an exclusive, exclusive audio that you may have never heard before and may have never heard something like this. I just listened to it myself a few minutes before the program and this is horrific. This is, this is horrible stuff. And folks, let's, let's go back to that day In March of 2023, the Nashville Christian Massacre. William Kinney, 9. Evelyn Decas 9. Haley Scruggs, 9. Catherine Kuntz, 60. Cynthia Peak, 61. Mike Hill, 61. Teachers and staff who tried to save the kids. Heroic officers who stopped Audrey Hale

[Katie Zachariah]

as

[Jack Posobic]

she walked through the school and mowed them all down. Now, Audrey Hale has now been in hell for 1,233 days. But here's what, here's what Abdul El Sayed had to say. Right after that,

[Unidentified Supporter]

another elementary school got shot up this week. This time it was a Christian private school in Tennessee where a shooter killed three adults and three children, all under nine years old. Rather than the perpetual problem of unfettered access to guns, right wing media have chosen to concentrate on the shooter, a former student at the school who identified as trans, arguing that the attack was some kind of broader attack in an escalating battle between trans people and Christians. Look, y', all almost. I know what happens when people essentialize everyone a particular identity based on the actions of one individual who happens to identify that way. And that's a dangerous brew because the other thing that happened this week is that the Republicans in the legislature, the state of Kentucky, forced through a draconian set of anti trans laws, overriding the veto of their Democratic governor. And all that's going to do is rob thousands of people of basic civil rights. The epidemic of gun violence in this country has nothing to do with trans people. It has everything to do with the unfettered access to guns. Considering the last story I told you about, imagine what America might be if we took access to health care as seriously as some people take access to guns. If I could tweak one thing about the Constitution, it would be two words in the second Amendment. From the right to bear arms to the right to have health care. Guns take a lot of lives in America. Health care, healthcare, saves them. That's it for today. On your way out, don't forget to rate and review. It really does go a long way.

[Jack Posobic]

I'm not really sure how to. How to process that. I'm just here to report. That's what he said. He said that the epidemic of violence has nothing to do with trans people. He said that the fact that it was a trans shooter who's shooting up a Christian school had nothing to do with the fact that. That the individual was trans. Then he blamed it on the anti trans laws that he claims are anti trans or actually just pro child children are dead. By the way, Abdul. Christian children are dead. Funny how you don't seem to care that much when it's Christian children. Abdul. He then says that the only answer, of course, is that the second amendment should be rescinded. That's your candidate, Michigan. That's your candidate for Senate. A guy who clearly hates Christians, a guy who covers up for trans violence, and a guy who wants to take your guns away. You heard it first here, Human Events Daily.

[Unidentified Supporter]

You talk about influencers. These are influencers and they're friends of mine. Jack. Where's Jack? Jack? He's got a great job.

[Jack Posobic]

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[Katie Zachariah]

Thanks for being, thanks for having me, Jack.

[Jack Posobic]

So, Katie, we just broke the exclusive. First time anyone has heard this outside of a podcast. I guess he had that nobody listened to where Abdullah Al said and gosh, I have no idea what the Michigan Republican Party is doing. All you have to do is go to the podcast and start listening to it, folks. I mean, these people are paid to do this. I have no idea why. They're just not doing their jobs. But we here at Human Events Daily will do it for them. Because he started victim blaming of Christians and conservatives for the Nashville Christian massacre when they shot up the Christian school killing children, little girls, little boy teachers, staff. And he blamed it on conservatives who passed anti trans laws. And then he said school shootings are not a trans problem. School shootings are a gun problem. And he called for the repeal of the second Amendment. Katie, what does it mean that a guy like that is now running for Senate, one of the most prominent seats our entire country? This is the person the Democrats have chosen.

[Katie Zachariah]

Well, it should be no surprise. I know he doesn't identify as a Democrat Socialist of America candidate, but this is, they are unseating and want to get rid of our entire Constitution. And I just want to go back to that Nashville shooting. Jack. I have friends in Franklin, Tennessee who, who had friends who lost a child. And for him to actually take away all of the blame of this person and blame it on guns is exactly what the left has been doing all along.

[Unidentified Supporter]

Right?

[Katie Zachariah]

They, they don't want to actually hold people accountable for what they've done. They want to blame the United States Constitution. They want to blame our second amendment rights and what has been enshrined, which is, by the way, our biggest protection against communism. You know what they say, you can vote your way in to communism, but you have to shoot your way out. And I'm not, I know that, that that is somewhat controversial, but having lived in China, you as well, that once you get into a situation, they want to take your guns away because that is then your only way to fight back.

[Jack Posobic]

And Katie, you're exactly right because Chairman Mao, of course, his most famous quote is that political power grows from the barrel of a gun. Chairman Mao then banned guns for anyone but the CCP and the Red Army. We actually. We do. Katie and I just to play this clip for you again because this needs to be played over and over. I really implore the Michigan Republicans to please make sure everyone hears this clip from his podcast.

[Unidentified Supporter]

The Republicans in the legislature, the state of Kentucky forced through a draconian set of anti trans laws, overriding the veto of their Democratic governor. And all that's going to do is rob thousands of people of basic civil rights. The epidemic of gun violence in this country has nothing to do with trans people. It has everything to do with the unfettered access to guns.

[Jack Posobic]

And there it is, Katie. Just. It's, it's unbelievable. It's. And it's the way that he doesn't even seem upset to me. It, to me, it doesn't even sound upset.

[Katie Zachariah]

No, of course he's not, Jack.

[Evita Alfonso]

He, he.

[Katie Zachariah]

What he's doing, though, is what he's been told to do, which was what Gavin Newsom is doing by going out there and campaigning for Al Said. They are just parroting what is an infiltration of our entire country. And you've been talking about this for a lot longer than most people, Jack, that, that this has been a long infiltration, as they say, the long march through the institutions.

[Unidentified Supporter]

Right?

[Katie Zachariah]

They got. First they target education and then they target the media, and now they're targeting civics and government.

[Unidentified Supporter]

Right.

[Katie Zachariah]

And, and soon we will all be wondering why we're living under what could be the equivalent of really a communist dictatorship. Look at what happened with New York. That starts with the school systems. This is why. And I want to go back to Charlie Kirk. This is why Charlie Kirk started turning points to be a turning point for the agenda of the radical left, the radical socialist. I mean, Jack, this is what you talk about all the time and what is now becoming communism, because they know that starts with the youth. That's what Mao knew That's what Lenin knew. That's what Gramsci knew. All of the big founders and original communists and Marxist leaders knew and have known that it starts with the youth. And so what he's doing is he's targeting our foundational and fundamental constitutional rights, as I said before, so we can't defend ourselves. It should come as no shock one.

[Jack Posobic]

And it's very clear that his agenda for a long time, I mean, these are comments from years ago. I mean, it wasn't actually that long ago. It was three years ago, 12, 33 days exactly, by the way, because we do keep track of that around here. And this is something where it shouldn't come as any surprise that he's hanging out with the likes of Hasan Piker. And for people who want to talk about the crazy stuff, Hasana said, look, at the end of the day, this is a guy who has condoned violence. It always comes back to violence and you need to stick it right there. He has also condoned rape. Right? He's, he, he has said that the white women should be raped by migrants. He has said that he supports violence. He, he, he's come out in support of Luigi Maggione. He is someone who has been very glib when talking about the murder of Charlie Kirk, someone who he shared a stage with many times, at least once, once significantly at Politicon. And he's someone who obviously he made this, this crazy comment about 9, 11. And so, yes, actually all of those things do matter because when other acts of violence happen in our country, when our children are being killed, we need leaders who are willing to stand up and say what is going wrong. We don't need leaders who stand up and blame the victims, blame their families, blame Christians, blame conservatives, blame the right wing or whatever it is. Because it wasn't the right wing that was mowing down children in a Nashville Christian school. It was a transgender psychopath named Audrey Hale. That's who did that. And he didn't have any problem with that. He wanted to make sure that nobody say anything. Katie, we're coming up on a quick break, but I want to get back. Get your response right after that. Right here. Back here. Human events Daily. Real Marcus boys.

[Unidentified Supporter]

One communist on the faculty of one university is one communist too many. One communist among the admiral American advisors at Yalta was one communist too many.

[Jack Posobic]

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[Katie Zachariah]

Well, I was only going to add to your complete takedown of Hasan Piker that I find it strange that you and I probably for the first time in our lives agree with James Carville where he said there is no political party that I will be in is if Hassan Piker is part of it. And so someone's going to have to go out of the Democrat race and it's likely going to be Hasan because Carville, at least for now, still runs it.

[Unidentified Supporter]

Jack.

[Jack Posobic]

No, that's, that's exactly right. And you know, you take someone like this, you put them in front of voters and then you start adding in. Not just the because of course, they were playing this game of oh, well, those were his comments. Those weren't my comments. Well, guess what? We found your comments, Abdul. We've, it actually wasn't that hard. We scratched the surface of just one little click away from pulling up. Well, let's see what he said. Oh, he did a podcast about the Nashville Christian shooting. Let's see what he said. And I was horrified. It's wow. And, and, but at the same time, I'm not surprised. I'm honestly not surprised. Because when you see these people coming from a mile away, it is so obvious the violence, you could see the resentment, you could see the anger. They are seething with it. They are teeming with it. It's who they are. It is just who they are. And I want to get in now. We got Dan o' Donnell up. He's live in Wisconsin. I want to bring him up because he's on the ground. Dan, how are you?

[Dan O'Donnell]

Fantastic, Jack, how you doing?

[Jack Posobic]

So, Dan, if I can, I mean, I know you've got Francesca Hong and you know, she's, she's a real doozy right now. And you've got her, I guess, spiritual brother over there in Michigan. I'd love to get your reaction to these comments that, that he's made. We just broke the story a couple of minutes ago where he had made these comments in the wake of the Nashville Christian massacre, blaming it on the conservative movement, blaming it on what he calls anti trans laws that were passed by Governor Lee down there. He blames, it seems to blame everyone, but the shooter seems to actually blame, blamed the gun, blames the second amendment, calls for second amendment to be repealed, and does what the leftists always do, they blame everyone but the shooter themselves.

[Dan O'Donnell]

And this isn't particularly surprising because this is the same guy who said that he wanted to empathize with literal terrorists. He was asked at a town hall, okay, as a US Senator, how would you deal with the issue of terrorism? And he said, look, I'm a doctor, so I have to be an expert in pain. I have to know where people's pain comes from. And I'm going to apply that same level of empathy when it comes to dealing with terrorists. It's no surprise then that he would blame the people that he believes drove this trans shooter to commit unspeakable atrocities, just as he blames America to drive the 911 terrorists to commit unspeakable atrocities. 25 years ago, is it any real surprise that a trans terrorist, a mass shooter like Audrey Hale, would get the same treatment? This isn't just the far left, the Abdul El Saids or the Francesco Hongs, the socialist wing of the Democratic Party. I mean, I can remember, Jack, in the wake of 9 11, you had supposed moderate Democrats saying much the same thing. Well, we need to get into the minds of the people who just slaughtered thousands of innocent Americans and figure out a way to blame America first. Now it seems that these new radicals, these new leftists, just seem way more comfortable blaming everything about our culture, everything about our civilization, provided that they can weaponize that against their political enemies, conservative

[Jack Posobic]

Christian Republicans, and to destabilize us. And Katie, I know you kind of mentioned it before, but we ended up, you know, kind of focusing more on the communism as we do. This is, this is the Jack Bosobic show after all. But Katie, I wanted to ask you, just take the ideology out of it for a second and just as a mom, as a mom who's got four kids going to school, I know you've got two, you know, four young kids. I've got two young kids. How does that make you feel when you hear someone like that who could potentially be in one of the most powerful offices in the world?

[Katie Zachariah]

Well, again, if he's talking about empathy,

[Evita Alfonso]

it's the opposite, right?

[Katie Zachariah]

He, he's empathizing with who could be seen as the terrorist or the murderer and he's not actually caring about what is terrorism.

[Jack Posobic]

Yes, it's certainly terrorism.

[Katie Zachariah]

It absolutely is. And so to actually, Jack, as I said earlier, we know a family or closely related to a family who did lose a kid in that shooting. And when my kids go to school, we have armed guards and we are so grateful for that. I am grateful for him every single day. The guy who guards my kids lives. Why, Jack? Because there is no more unspeakable pain, like there is no deeper pain than a parent could go through than losing their child. And for him to completely disregard the victims and victimize the perpetrator in this is exactly what he is about. So let all parents who are going to go out and vote in Michigan understand that the quality and the character of this man who would be your senator if there is a school shooting in Michigan, he will side on the side of the shooter, not the children. He has shown that, Jack, by your exposure of this podcast, he is going to side on the side of the shooter. And so we need, they need to go out and vote with that in mind. Jack.

[Jack Posobic]

Well, I take what you're saying and I think what Dan is saying as well, and it really seems like that, Dan, what is going on here? Do you think it is as, as Katie says? Is it, is it this empathy and enmeshed with a kind of resentment because, you know, it's hard to explain exactly where it comes from. I've got some ideas, but you're there in Wisconsin, you know, looking at this. Where, where does it start?

[Dan O'Donnell]

Well, I think it does start with envy. I think the, the concept of malignant envy and the idea that somehow American society has wronged you. Somebody who you perceive yourself as doing all the right things, right? You got a post college degree and I Don't know, medieval queer studies. Somehow you find yourself unemployable. So rather than looking inward and saying, hey, maybe I should have gone into STEM or something, that would have gotten me a good job to pay off my student loans, you look outward. You envy those who have things that you don't. Benign envy is very good, Right. I envy the fact that you've got such a great show, Jack. I say, you know what? I'm going to work really hard and I'm going to try to get a show like Jack. The production values are fantastic. You've got a great commanding voice. I'm gonna try to do my best to do that. Malignant envy, which is where socialism comes in, says, no, no, no. Instead of raising myself up, instead of looking inward and saying, what can Dan o' Donnell do to be more like Jack? I would say, no, we need to take Jack down so that he is more like everybody else, that everybody else is like Jack. Because society has done the rest of us wrong. We need to make everything level. When you understand that that's sort of the thought process that preys on people's most basic insecurities instead of motivating. Because envy can be an incredible motivator, right? You say, hey, I want to be like that guy. I want to be like President Trump. I want to do all of these great things because I want to have what they have and do what they do. That's fantastic. Socialism plays on what's easier. And that's this concept of malignant envior. You know what? No, it's not you. It's society. We need to tear down society. An American society is worst of all.

[Jack Posobic]

Of course. It makes me think of Cain and Abel, right? Cain, the first child born to Adam and Eve, was envious. Although I would add, as a Catholic, I would say the first child born with original sin. So interesting theological concept there, perhaps. But, Katie, we're just about last minute for you. But Katie, is. Is that what it is? Is socialism all about tearing everyone down to that equal, you know, that low, that equal, low?

[Katie Zachariah]

Well, it's tearing everyone down in the subjugated class, right? This is the bourgeoisie versus the proletariat. There is going to be a subjugated class, and that is not going to be everyone. But it's sold that we're going to equalize the playing field when really it's going to be a small group of elite versus the rest. Now, I want to build on that, that I think it actually Jacks broke. The breakdown began at the breakdown of the family. And that is also what communism likes to do, is break down the family.

[Jack Posobic]

That is exactly right. Katie Zachariah, thank you so much for joining us here. Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice right back here. One more segment this the Jack Posobic Appreciation Hour. I can say confidently, I believe, I think Josh Shapiro would be the vice presidential nominee if it wasn't for Josh, Jack the Sobic.

[Unidentified Supporter]

And that, that is, I'm being honest.

[Jack Posobic]

All right, folks. Jacksonvik, we are back. We're now on with Dan o'. Donnell. He's joining us. He's with the Dan o' Donnell Show. He's there in Wisconsin. He's broken a ton of stories in Wisconsin over the years because unfortunately, there's been some, some harrowing things that have happened. There's been some great things, too, as well. But Dan has been there for all of it and he joins us now to kind of and I'd love to get a preview. I know you're going live, but I'd love if we could get a preview of what your read is on what's going to happen in the gubernatorial primary in Wisconsin today.

[Dan O'Donnell]

Well, as you know, the socialist Francesco Hong has just been dominating headlines with all of her old tweets. She wants to abolish Thanksgiving. She's apparently not too fond of Christmas or Valentine's day or the 4th of July or really any holiday for that matter. She also wants to defund the police as a first step to abolishing police. Well, today's primary day and of course, she's out talking to the media and said, well, those, those were just old hot takes. I originally went to school to be a sports writer and I had some bad takes in my day. This is sort of like AOC over the weekend saying, well, woke one was nuts, but we're well past that. Clearly, though, she knows that she's going to win this primary. I mean, her lead opponent in it, Milwaukee County Executive David Crowley, he put out an internal poll last week that actually showed him down 22. Jack, why would you ever put out a poll that shows you trailing by 22 points? He tried to do some tortured logic saying, well, if the electorate was the exact same as 2018 and 2022 put together and it's only informed voters that go to the polls. We're within like two or three points. Yeah, but right now you're still down 22. And in fact, just today, it was leaked to Politico that Hong's team is being replaced. National Democrats are essentially coming in and they're getting her a new comms team, they're getting her a new ground operation, essentially, which means a they know that she's going to win this primary and battle. They know she's not ready for prime time because those weren't just hot takes. This was her being way too honest about what she believes. I can tell you, Jack, from covering her since she was first elected in the Woke One era of 2020, she does believe all this stuff. Why has she struggled to walk back her desire to abolish Thanksgiving? Why can't she just say, yeah, that was kind of dumb. I don't really mean that I like Thanksgiving because she does it. She doesn't particularly care for American civilization. Why has she been unable to walk back the video, the interview she did where she says, I'm a chef and when we get rid of an order, we say we 86 it. Well, I think it's time to bleeping 86 Trump because she believes this stuff. She believes the Hasan piker nonsense, the Abdul El Said nonsense. She is a true blue believer in socialism, I guess, true red believer in socialism. And that's why national Democrats are saying, hey, wait a second, we gotta make sure once she's the nominee that normie voters in the ultimate swing state of Wisconsin don't learn what she actually believes because that makes her toxic. And sure enough, if you follow the betting odds and you know, you look at that as sort of, okay, okay, fine, it's one element. You look at polls, you look at what candidates do. You look at the odds. Tom Tiffany, the Republican here. Since Huang became sort of the inevitable nominee, I'd say about a month ago, his odds have surged. Democrats were favored to win this governor's race pretty handily. Now he has a 62% chance of winning this race, and that's probably only going to go up once she clinches this nomination and once all of the old tweets and all of the legislation that she sponsored as a member of the state assembly comes out out. Democrats are rightly worried about this. Even Bernie and AOC did not endorse her because I think they're concerned that if she gets shellacked in the general election, that that's going to reflect very, very poorly on Democratic socialism generally. Now, that said, if she wins this election, and it is very possible that she does, I think that portends doom for the Democratic Party long term because the DSA can then say, look, we're the future. We won in the ultimate swing state of Wisconsin. DSA candidates can win everywhere. We're going to primary every more moderate Dem even you saw in New York and Colorado. Liberal Democrats lost primaries to DSA candidates this summer. I would expect that to accelerate in 2028 and beyond. And the party itself, I think, will be taken over by DSA members if she wins or loses. Clearly, socialism is on the rise in the party and Wisconsin, I think, is going to be the state to deliver it. A significant setback. We're certainly ready for that fight, Jack.

[Jack Posobic]

So, so here's. All right. So. So hold on. I just pin you down on this. So. So you think that sounds like you're saying she wins the primary but loses the general.

[Dan O'Donnell]

That's the general consensus. That is. So Crowley, her lead opponent in this primary, actually dropped out of the race about a month ago. He was polling at maybe 5% in a crowded primary and at the exact moment he did and endorsed our Lieutenant Governor, Sarah Rodriguez. Rodriguez got embroiled in a massive campaign finance scandal in which she was telling everybody she had a million dollars in cash on hand to. Oops. She actually had 30,000. And nobody's quite sure where that money actually went. She had to drop out a week later instead of going with one of the candidates who is already in the race and opposing Hong or just saying, look, okay, it'll be challenging, but Francesca can win a general election. The Democratic Party got Crowley back in the race. And our incumbent Democrat Gov. Tony Evers, who decided not to run for a third term and hadn't endorsed in this race the very next day, gets back in. Crowley gets back in and he suddenly got Ebers endorsement. And the entire Democratic Party is trying to make David Crowley the conquering hero. He's like Julius Caesar entering Rome. No, he's still not catching on because the party's base wants Hong. The Democratic Party doesn't do that if they think Hong is going to win the general election, they just don't. They've been trying to stop her. In fact, they were trying to unite the candidates behind. Unite the voters behind Rodriguez. That obviously didn't work. They switched to Crowley. You don't do that if you think your leading candidate, the candidate who has all the energy, who has all of the buzz, who clearly has captured the hearts and minds of your voter base if you think that she can win a general election. Because the big problem, Jack, is she's going to bring out Republicans who haven't been turning out in non Trump elections. Remember, we voted for Trump in Wisconsin in 2016 and 2024. In fact, technically, in both years, Wisconsin was the state that when added to his electoral total, put him over the 270 vote threshold. So we're like the ultimate swing state. But what's been happening is Democrats have been dominating in non presidential races in the era of Trump because, and I quote from a study that was done maybe six, seven months ago on Trump voters who don't turn out in state elections. They don't believe that what happens in our state Capitol matters like it does in Washington. Well, a communist taking over the state, that matters, that gets them out. And what I think Democrats are so afraid of is that this becomes a referendum not on Donald Trump, as midterm elections always are, a referendum on the incumbent president, but rather a referendum on socialism itself. Socialism is Underwater by about 35 points here in Wisconsin. It's toxic. And frankly, so is she to a general election electorate. Oh, sure, she's popular among the Democrat base, but the Republican base and moderate voters, swing voters, they're going to turn out in droves, it's believed, to vote against her and more importantly, to vote against the spread of socialism across the country.

[Unidentified Supporter]

Country.

[Jack Posobic]

And this, of course, is the big question. Look, and I'll even say I haven't even said this publicly yet, but I've even had moderate Democrats reaching out to me saying, look, we're not for this stuff. And there are a lot of people who realize how damaging this is going to be to their party. Now, that being said, I'm not, I have no interest whatsoever in helping the moderate Democrats because you know something, guys, this is the message that you made yourself when you opened the door to this level of crazy. I called it out years ago and nobody wanted to listen. Dan, I know you got to run. I know you got your show coming up. Tell people where they can go to follow you and tune into the show

[Dan O'Donnell]

at Dan o' Donnell show across social media, Facebook x Instagram, you can check me out. News Talk, 1130 WISN in Milwaukee, 1310 WIBA and Madison. And of course, I'm a good corporate guy. Your iHeartRadio app, of course.

[Jack Posobic]

Dan, thanks so much, man. Come back soon. All right, folks, this is the episode that you want to share with friends. Get those comments of Syed everywhere out there. Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay short.