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Tulsi Gabbard
A commentator, international social media sensation and.
Caroline Levitt
Former Navy intelligence veteran.
Tulsi Gabbard
This is Human Events with your host Jack Posobec, Christ Is King which included possible criminal acts like secret meetings with multiple named U.S. religious organizations in which State Department officials offered, in exchange for supporting Secretary Clinton's campaign for the presidency, significant increases in financing from the State Department. They also had documents that showed the patronage of the State Department to State Department employees who would go and support Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign. There were high level DNC emails that detailed evidence of Hillary's quote, psycho emotional problems, uncontrolled fits of anger, aggression and cheerfulness, and that then Secretary Clinton was allegedly on a daily regimen of heavy tranquilizers. Then CIA Director Brennan and the intelligence community mischaracterized intelligence and relied on dubious substandard sources to create a contrived false narrative that Putin developed a quote, unquote clear preference for Trump. Brennan and the IC misled lawmakers by referencing the debunked separate Steele dossier to assess, quote, unquote, Russia's plans and intentions, falsely suggesting that this dossier had intelligence value when he knew that it was discredited. The intelligence community excluded significant intelligence and ignored or selectively quoted reliable intelligence that contradicted the intelligence community assessment's key findings on Putin's alleged support for Trump. Including this intelligence reporting would have exposed the ICA's claim as implausible, if not ridiculous. The intelligence community assessment omitted reliably sourced information such as how some Russian intelligence officials were planning for candidate Hillary Clinton's victory, while others assessed neither Trump nor Clinton would respect Russia's interests. As was reflected in the ODNI documents that we released on Friday, multiple intelligence community assessments released released in the months leading up to the November 2016 election concluded that Russia had neither the intent nor capability to impact the outcome of the US election. On December 5 of 2016, the FBI and ODNI gave the House Intelligence Committee its first post election classified briefing in which there was no mention of Putin aspiring to elect Trump by either agency. The Presidential Daily brief drafted on December 8th of 2016 stated that no Russian or criminal actors impacted vote counts. This document was pulled just hours before it was to be published due to quote unquote new guidance. If it had been published, it would have been briefed to both President Obama and President Elect Donald Trump. On December 9, 2016, a national security Council meeting was called to gather President Obama's senior national security security officials which included CIA Director Brennan, then Obama dni, James Clapper, Susan Rice and others. Following that secret meeting, DNI Clapper's assistant sent an email to the intelligence community with the subject line POTUS tasking on Russia Election Meddling Tasking ODNI leaders to create a new assessment per the President's request. The House Intelligence Committee oversight report that we released today reveals that quote, unlike routine intelligence community analysis, the intelligence community assess assessment was a high profile product ordered by the President President Obama. It directed senior intelligence community agency heads and created an intelligence community assessment limited to just five analysts using one principal drafter. This is not something that occurs in the normal path of producing an intelligence community assessment that reflects the views across the intelligence community. The production of this intelligence community assessment was subject to unusual directives directly from the President and senior political appointees, especially the former Director of the CIA, John Brennan. The House Intelligence Committee oversight report also shows how later that Same day on December 9, Brennan ordered the publication of substandard reporting on Russian activities which had previously been withheld from publication of prior assessments because the information was judged, quote, to have not met long standing publication standards. Some of the information later used in the Obama ordered assessment over the objections of veteran CIA officers was quote, unquote unclear or from unknown sources. The Intelligence Committee's oversight report reveals that CIA Director Brennan overruled CD senior CIA officers who challenged the Obama ordered intelligence assessment stating quote, we don't have direct information that Putin wanted to get Trump elected yet. The Obama directed assessment was published on 01-06-2017 which explicitly stated, quote, we assess Putin and the Russian government aspired to help President Elect Trump's election chances when possible by discrediting Secretary Clinton and publicly contrasting her unfavorably to him, end of quote. The CIA and FBI then led by John Brennan and James Comey expressed high confidence in this judgment, while the NSA expressed moderate confidence. Yet as the report we released today shows, the ica, the intelligence community assessment did not cite any report where Putin indicated helping Trump win was an objective. The opposite is true with regards to the Steele dossier. We now know that one of the source documents that the Obama administration used in the creation of this intelligence assessment in January of 2017 was none other than the discredited, unverified Steele dossier. The House intel report states, quote, contradicting public claims by then CIA Director Brennan that the dossier was not in any way incorporated into this intelligence assessment. The dossier was referenced in the intelligence assessment's main body text and further detailed in a two page assessment annex. John Brennan lied and he denied using this dossier in this intelligence assessment that President Obama ordered because he knew it was discredited. It was a politically motivated manufactured document. He directed senior CIA officials to use it anyway. CIA officer told the House Intelligence Committee staff as they investigated this, quote, the director of the CIA, John Brennan, refused to remove it and when confronted with the dossier's many flaws, responded, quote, yes, but doesn't it ring true? Even the bipartisan Senate Select Committee on Intelligence report published in 2020 criticized the FBI's handling of the Steele dossier, noting its completely unverified nature and purposeful sidestepping of intelligence community procedures in its use. Now President Obama, Hillary Clinton, John Brennan, James Clapper, James Comey and others, including their mouthpieces in the media, knowingly lied as they repeated the contrived narrative that was created in this January 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment with high confidence, as though it were fact. John Brennan as CIA director, stated in a memo to his agency staff in December of 2016 saying, quote, there is strong consensus among us on the scope, nature and intent of Russian interference in our presidential election. This was reported by NBC News confirming that Brennan, along with James Clapper and James Comey, agreed with the CIA's assessment that Russia intervened to help Trump win the presidency. As Obama's Director of National Intelligence, James Clapper was tasked with overseeing the creation of this assessment in January of 2017 by President Obama and he expressed confidence in its findings. In a 2018 interview with the Harvard Gazette, he talked about how he provided Trump with the same classified assessment that President Obama received, which included the high confidence judgment that Putin directly ordered the hacking and election interference. Clapper then went on to add, I think they the Russians actually influenced the outcome. This is a brief summary of the details that you'll find within the House Majority Staff's report in their investigation into The Obama directed January 2017 intelligence community assessment. That leads us to the very same conclusion that we announced in the release of our documents on Friday. The implications of this are far reaching and have to do with the integrity of our Democratic Republic. It has to do with an outgoing president taking action to manufacture intelligence to undermine and usurp the will of the American people in that election and launch what would be a years long couple against the incoming President of the United States, Donald Trump. Thank you.
Emily
Thank you, Tulsi. And we do want to take questions on this topic. While the Director has time for this topic, she will leave. I'm happy to take questions on other matters after that. But if anyone has questions for Director Gabbard, you're welcome to ask them. We'll start with our new media seat. As always. Emily, go ahead. Thank you.
Tulsi Gabbard
And Director Gabbard, this one is for you. Do you believe that any of this new information implicates former President Obama in criminal behavior? We have referred and will continue to refer all of these documents to the Department of Justice and the FBI to investigate the criminal implications of this for even former President Obama. The evidence, correct. The evidence that we have found and that we have released directly point to President Obama leading the manufacturing of this intelligence assessment. There are multiple pieces of evidence and intelligence that confirm that fact.
Emily
Ed, go ahead.
Caroline Levitt
Director Gabbard, thank you. So just two questions, but to begin on that, the president, yesterday you've inferred that the former president helped lead a coup. Based on what you now see, do you believe President Obama is guilty of treason?
Tulsi Gabbard
I'm leaving the criminal charges to the Department of Justice. I am not an attorney, but as I've said previously, when you look at the intent behind creating a fake manufactured intelligence document that directly contradicts multiple assessments that were created by the intelligence community. The expressed intent and what followed afterward can only be described as a years long coup and a treasonous conspiracy against the American people, our republic, and an attempt to undermine President Trump's administration.
Caroline Levitt
The Senate Intelligence Committee spent several years looking into this and unanimously agreed in a bipartisan fashion, Secretary of State Rubio was a member of that committee that there was no political interference. There was a years long Justice Department investigation into this as well that also concluded no political interference. So help us from a 50,000 foot level explain what do you now have that refutes those two Sheriffs.
Tulsi Gabbard
I will encourage you. In my role as the Director of National Intelligence, my job, again, as I said when I came into this role, was to make sure that we are telling the truth to the American people and that we are ensuring that the intelligence community is not being politicized. So I'm not Asking you to take my word for it. I'm asking you and the media to conduct honest journalism and the American people to see for yourself. In the documents that we've released now, close to 200 pages that that point in multiple references, multiple examples to include comments that have been made by senior intelligence professionals who are some still working within these agencies today that confirm the conclusions that we have drawn that President Obama directed an intelligence community assessment to be created to further this contrived false narrative that ultimately led to a years long coup to try to undermine President Trump's presidency.
Caroline Levitt
And it's your belief that those two previous investigations missed that or covered it up?
Tulsi Gabbard
I'm telling you to look at the evidence. Look at the evidence and you will know the truth.
Emily
John.
Caroline Levitt
Thanks, Caroline. Thanks. Director Gabbard. You declassified these documents, if I'm not mistaken, Friday of last week. Correct.
Tulsi Gabbard
We released them on Friday of last week. The first tranche. Yes.
Caroline Levitt
This isn't the first time that President Trump has been president of the United States. He was President from 2017 to 2021. Couldn't the prior DNI under President Trump have declassified these documents? And why didn't that DNI do that at that time?
Tulsi Gabbard
I can't speak to what happened there. There were several DNIs under the first Trump administration. President Trump faced many challenges from those who were working in the government who, who sought to undermine his presidency. That's been clearly detailed. What I can speak to is the fact that this was one of the first things that we started to investigate here within this Trump administration and have released the results upon the conclusion of our investigation.
Caroline Levitt
And then my second question has to do with what intelligence agencies around the world have said about Russia, that they have tried to influence elections in the United States, in France, in Germany, in the uk. Do you disagree with that? Do you believe that Russia is a bad actor as it relates to trying to influence elections?
Tulsi Gabbard
I'll point back to the intelligence that President Trump has ordered declassified, that we have declassified and released that the intelligence reflects Russia's motives were to try to sow discord and chaos within the US Election, which is a clear distinction from showing a preference for or against a specific candidate. Which is what the Obama manufactured intelligence document alleges, that Russia preferred Donald Trump and tried to help Donald Trump get elected again. Going back to the most important point here with the intent to undermine the legitimacy of President Trump's election and therefore subvert the will of the American people who chose to send him to the White House.
Emily
Reagan, thanks Caroline. Director Gafford Reagan Reese with the Daily Caller. You laid out that the documents revealed that the Obama administration did not publish a December 2016 presidential daily briefing that demonstrated that Russia did not steal the election. Trump was receiving these briefings at the time because he was president elect. Are you of the view that that information was kept out of the briefing because then President Elect Donald Trump would have seen it?
Tulsi Gabbard
I don't have any documents that speak to exactly what the new guidance was that was given as the reason for pulling that document, which, by the way, still has never been published until we released it last week, Friday. One could assume that they didn't want President Trump to see a document that came from the intelligence community that would contradict the Russia hoax narrative that began through the Hillary Clinton campaign with the Steele dossier.
Emily
One more maybe either for you or Caroline, the president said yesterday that Obama committed treason. Do you or the White House believe that the Supreme Court's immunity decision protects Obama from prosecution? Look, I can speak to the president's feelings on this matter. He spoke to all of you yesterday in the Oval Office. But I also spoke to him about this this morning. And he wants to see all those who perpetuated this fraud against our country, who betrayed our country and the Constitution to be thoroughly investigated and held accountable. And it's been, you know, 10 years of this. And I would just add, based on everything the director has said and declassified, all of you in this room should go through it and take a look at this report and review the intelligence, because unfortunately, that hasn't happened. And many of the people who perpetuated this hoax, clapper, Andy McCabe, James Comey and many others have been hired by major networks in this room to go on television and continue to spew these lies, knowing that they are lies. And if you all recall, just flashback to 2016 and the years after the entire Trump 1 presidency was embroiled in this scandal that was perpetuated by the Democrat Party. And you had major Democrat Party officials in this city, namely Adam Schiff, Hillary Clinton, Elizabeth Warren, who went on television and told the American people, Donald Trump is an asset of Russia. It was a lie. They always knew it. Hillary Clinton herself said that President Trump would be a puppet for Putin. Senator Tim Kaine at the time called President Trump Vladimir Putin's defense lawyer. Adam Schiff's stated, and one of the worst things a lawmaker can do is to tell the American people, I know something you don't know. It's just classified. And I can't tell you and that's what he said. I can tell you that the case is more than that. I can't go into the particulars, but there is more than circumstantial evidence now. And not enough people in this room, not enough journalists in this country pushed Adam Schiff to say, what are you talking about? What evidence do you have? Everybody just ran with the lies and and it led to impeachments. It led to the division of our country. Unfortunately, so many Americans from listening to outlets in this room, believed in these lies and it's a complete scam and it's a scandal and the president wants to see accountability for that. Phil, thank you.
Tulsi Gabbard
A question for Director Gabbard. A spokesperson for former President Obama said in a statement earlier this week, nothing in the documents issued last week undercuts the widely accepted, accepted conclusion that Russia worked to influence the 2016 election but did not successfully manipulate any votes. How do you respond to critics like former President Obama and also others on the Hill who say that the administration is conflating apples and oranges here, conflating allegations of actual hacking of voter machines and allegations of interference generally?
Dr. Taylor Marshall
Ms.
Tulsi Gabbard
I think it's a disservice to the American people that former President Obama's office and others who are criticizing the transparency that is being delivered by releasing these documents. They are doing a disservice to the American people and trying to deflect away from their culpability in what is a historic scandal and negative action towards the American people and our democratic republic. The answer to that statement can very clearly be found throughout all of the documents that we have released, again showing that Russia has took action to try to sow discord in the election, but showed no preference for or against any singular candidate.
Caroline Levitt
You've long been an opponent of weaponization in government.
Tulsi Gabbard
How do you respond to criticism that referring Obama administration officials and even potentially the former president is just more weaponization.
Caroline Levitt
And this is a potential race to the bottom?
Tulsi Gabbard
I think that's a very disrespectful attack on the American people who deserve the truth. They deserve to have faith and trust in the integrity of our democratic republic, which is under bent, which has been undermined by President Obama through his direction of this manufactured, fake intelligence document, knowing that it was filled with lies and knowing that it would and could then be used for all of the actions that came after.
Emily
CAROLYN and I would just add, there needs to be accountability for that weaponization, Phil, that we've seen and no one has been a victim of the weaponized government more than President Trump, not just because of this political scandal. You all recall his house was raided. So I think it's very disingenuous for people to say, how dare they speak of former President Obama about this based on evidence and, and based on intelligence. When the former president of the United States, Donald Trump's home was raided, when he was forced to sit in a Manhattan courtroom and many other courtrooms across the country for crimes he never committed, when he was impeached and indicted, and the entire country witnessed that, that's the weaponization of justice. Now, the president is back because the American people see the truth. Nearly 80 million Americans reelected him back to this office, and he believes that we need to have justice and accountability. And I think the nearly 80 million Americans who reelected him agree with that. Caitlin? Thank you, Carolyn. Two questions for Director Gabbard. Just on this, Director Gabbard, you referenced the past intelligence reports and assessments on this, including that 2017 one that was signed off, as Ed noted, by every Republican on the Senate Intelligence Community, including the acting chair of the time, now Secretary of State Marco Rubio, who said in a statement that they did not find any evidence of Russian collusion. But they did find, however, is very troubling, and they found irrefutable evidence of Russian meddling. One, are you saying that he's wrong in that statement that he made then? And secondly, what would you say to people who believe that you're only releasing these documents now to improve your standing with the president after he said that your intelligence assessments were wrong?
Tulsi Gabbard
Well, first, I want to correct something that you stated which was citing the Senate Intelligence Committee's report as being one and the same. I think you said the Intelligence Committee community, the Senate Intelligence Committee, has a very different function than the Office of the Director of National Intelligence. The evidence and the intelligence that has been declassified and released is irrefutable. I'm going to let Caroline speak to Secretary Rubio.
Emily
I'll speak to both questions. First, on Secretary Rubio. He put out a statement in 2020 following that Senate Intelligence Committee report, and he said what they found is troubling. We found irrefutable evidence of Russia meddling, which the director of National Intelligence just confirmed for all of you that Russia was trying to sow distrust and chaos. But what's the outrage in this that Secretary Rubio did not say at the time, the Democrats were saying at the time is the fact that the intelligence community was concocting this narrative that the president colluded with the Russians, that the president's son was holding secret meetings with the Russians. All of these lies that were never true. And he also said at that time we discovered deeply troubling actions taken by the FBI under Comey, particularly their acceptance and willingness to rely on the Steele dossier without verifying its methodology or sourcing. The Steele dossier that many outlets in this room ran as the gospel truth, and it was cooked up and paid for by the Clinton campaign. As for your second question, Caitlin, I think who is saying that, that she would release this to try to boost her standing with the president? Who has said that? Well, the president has publicly undermined her when it came to Iran. He said she was. He told me that she didn't know what she was talking about. That was on Air Force One. On camera no, the only people who are suggesting that the Director of National Intelligence would release evidence to try to boost her standing with the President are the people in this room who constantly try to sow distrust and chaos amongst the President's cabinet. And it is not working on Bill Barr. I will just answer your question directly. I am with the President of the United States every day. He has the utmost confidence in and Director Gabbard. He always has. He continues to. And that is true of his entire Cabinet, who is all working as one team to deliver on the promises this President made. Does anyone else have questions for Director Gabbard? And then we'll turn it over to a couple other questions. Christian, go ahead.
Caroline Levitt
Yeah, thank you. Director Gabbard, two follow ups on questions that have been asked. You mentioned the previous DNIs during the President's first term. One of them reports to you right now, if I'm not mistaken, John Ratcliffe. So have you not spoken to him about why this information was not declassified.
Emily
During the first term?
Tulsi Gabbard
He was in that position for a very short period of time. The work that began back then, we have picked up and absolutely completed. We are continuing to investigate this. Additional whistleblowers are now coming forward because they see an opportunity for the truth to come to light and as Caroline said, for real accountability to be brought forward. The accountability is the essential part of this. We can show the truth, reveal the truth. The accountability needs to occur to be able to start to restore that trust in the integrity of our democracy.
Caroline Levitt
And then just quickly, I know you said you would leave the charging to doj, but the statute of limitations on conspiracy is five years. So what else could they possibly pursue besides treason?
Tulsi Gabbard
I think that's a great question for Attorney General Pam Bondi. We are providing all of the evidence, all of the intelligence that we have, both redacted and unredacted versions, referring it to the Department of Justice and the FBI.
Emily
We'll take one more. Charlie, go ahead.
Caroline Levitt
How credible was the information about Hillary Clinton's power? To me, the report said that it was sourced from the dnc. Have you seen that information, or do you think that maybe, maybe Russia was overemphasizing what they had?
Tulsi Gabbard
Ms. All I have seen is what the Intelligence Committee have reported through their investigation. I think the underlying point there is is that we understand from intelligence what Russia said that they had. And the important point here is that if they were trying to influence the election as President Obama and James Clapper and John Brennan, everybody said they were doing in order to support Donald Trump's election, they would have released the most damning of that information, some of which I detailed here. You'll find the rest in the report. Prior to the election, to help Donald Trump win, they specifically withheld what they had on her, the most damning information, because they thought that she would win the election. They had plans to release it just prior, prior to her inauguration to again sow discord and chaos in America.
Caroline Levitt
And if I may, on Jeffrey Epstein, can you rule out that he was connected in some way to any kind of intelligence, either foreign or domestic?
Congresswoman Anna Polina Luna
Mr.
Tulsi Gabbard
I haven't seen any evidence or information that reflects that. If anything comes before me that changes that in any way. Support the president's statement loud and clear. If any credible evidence comes forward, he wants the American people, people to see it.
Emily
Great. Director Gabbard, we thank you for your time today. I know you're a busy woman, so we'll let you get out of here, but thank you so much. Okay. I know there's many issues going on today across the world and here at home. If you have any other further questions, I'm happy to take them. Ed, why don't you go ahead?
Caroline Levitt
Yeah. Thank you, Caroline. So the Japan trade deal, is that Japan trade deal, the start of this number of trade deals that the treasury says we're going to see by August 1st? Ms.
Emily
I think it is. I mean, as you said, we had Japan yesterday. We also had Indonesia and we had the Philippines as well. The president announcing all three. He came in as the closer in all three of those. I've said many times from this podium that the president's trade team has been in active talks and discussions with many countries around the world, and you've all been anxiously awaiting what those countries were. Now, you know, three of them and there's many, many more to go. We have now sent 25 letters to countries around the world. But just to reiterate this Japan deal, for those at home who may have missed it, Japan will now pay a 15% tariff versus the reciprocal rate of 24% that they initially had. Auto and auto parts tariffs have been reduced to 15%. But the centerpiece of this deal now is the president got Japan to commit to $550 billion and and investments to revitalize American industries. And these funds will be spent at President Trump's discretion and direction into key industries such as energy, semiconductors, critical minerals, pharmaceuticals and shipbuilding. And the US will retain 90% of the profits from any investments made by this $550 billion fund. This was originally a $400 billion investment that President Trump then negotiated to an increase of 150 billion, making it a $550 billion deal for the American people. And I just want to emphasize, Ed, I see you have a follow up, but it's very important. Japan has agreed to open their markets to many very key sectors and American made products that have really faced very strict tariff and non tariff barriers prior. So thanks to the president, Japan's markets will now be open to American made products and goods. This is big news for our tech companies and our farmers as well.
Caroline Levitt
On Monday, the treasury secretary is going to Stockholm to talk to the Chinese delegation. What does the president hope to get out of that meeting? Are there deliverables?
Emily
Ms. I won't speak to any deliverables or set expectations. I'll let the secretary of treasury do that. But I did speak to him yesterday about his upcoming trip and he looks forward to continuing discussions with his Chinese counterparts. The president has ensured that we have a good continuing working relationship with China that benefits the United States. And so the secretary of treasury will be obviously discussing those key matters. But I'll let him set the expectations.
Caroline Levitt
One more, if I may, given what the DNI just said and laid out, does President Trump believe that President Obama should go to jail for something?
Emily
Ms. Look, the President believes that this matter needs to be thoroughly investigated and anyone convicted of crime should be held accountable in this country. Go ahead. Sean Woj Wikoff is headed overseas. Ms. Good to see you, Olivia. I haven't seen you since the campaign trail. It's good to see you. He's headed back overseas. Can you give us a sense of what the marching orders are to some of the people he'll be meeting with and specifically as it relates to Gaza and ongoing talks there? Ms. Yes. Special Envoy Wyckoff is headed to Europe where he will meet with key leaders from the Middle east to discuss the ongoing cease fire proposal to end this conflict in Gaza and to release the hostages. These are very sensitive negotiations that are currently taking place. I spoke to Special Envoy Witkoff last night about them. I will let him speak further on the matter. But the president and Special Envoy Witkoff has made the administration's goals clear. We want this cease fire to happen as soon as possible and we want these hostages to be released. Go ahead.
Caroline Levitt
A Florida federal judge judges refused to allow the Epstein grand jury materials to be released. Does the president want the administration or Department of Justice to appeal that ruling?
Emily
Ms. That was just breaking as the director and I were coming out here, so I haven't had a chance to talk to the president about it. I understand there are two other requests from the Department of Justice that are ongoing, but I'll let this president speak to whether he wants to see an appeal. And the Department of Justice, I'm sure, can give you a statement on that as well.
Caroline Levitt
Is he supportive of the effort to talk to Ghislaine Maxwell, and I know that Todd Blanche mentioned that earlier this week.
Tulsi Gabbard
Ms.
Emily
The President spoke to this yesterday and he said he thinks it's an appropriate idea.
Caroline Levitt
Kelly, what is the accountability that you.
Tulsi Gabbard
Would like to see?
Caroline Levitt
If this current president is the one.
Tulsi Gabbard
Who brought the case to the Supreme.
Caroline Levitt
Court and Chief Justice Roberts made clear in his opinion that a sitting president's responsibilities in office cannot lead to prosecution immunity. So what is it that the president, President Trump, wants regarding President Obama, given that fact and the special counsel at the time, Durham, when that Supreme Court matter was not in effect, could have charged anyone and did not. So on those two points, how do you respond?
Emily
Ms. Look, the President has made it clear that he wanted these documents to be declassified. He wanted the American people to see the truth, and now he wants those who perpetuated these lies and this scandal to be held accountable. As for what accountability looks like, as the director said, it's in the Department of Justice's hands and we trust them to move this ball forward. You would agree President Obama cannot be.
Caroline Levitt
Charged based on that immunity?
Emily
Again, I'll leave that to the Department of Justice. Stephanie, in light of the Japan deal, are sectoral tariffs now up for negotiation with trading partners? And in a similar note, are these negotiators asking for investment funds sort of like what Japan had agreed to? Ms. As for sectoral tariffs, I understand that the president continues to be in talks with Our secretary of Commerce. We have made commitments on various sectoral tariffs. As you know, the Department of Commerce has initiated studies to then move forward with implementing those sectoral tariffs. So I would defer you to them for further comment. Meredith, I wanted to ask if the White House has any update on the Commerce Department employee who's been detained in or banned from exiting China, and if there are any efforts to get him out.
Congresswoman Anna Polina Luna
Ms.
Emily
I can assure you and the American people that the administration is actively monitoring the situation and engaged. But typically, we don't comment on individual cases like this as we are sorting them out. Sure. Behind you, Dr. Harper. Sorry, go ahead. The lady sitting down in the blue.
Tulsi Gabbard
Yes.
Emily
What's your name? What's your name? My name is Caroline. Also, Caroline voted with the center square. Great. So Republicans in the Senate today said that they are pulling back on legislation to impose sanctions on Russia after the president said he wants to act unilaterally. Can you elaborate on what the president intends to do? Ms. Look, the President has been in very close communication with his friends in the Senate, Senate, particularly Senator Lindsey Graham on this issue. But the president has always maintained he's the commander in chief and the president for a reason, and he has been deeply involved in this conflict since the beginning. And so any decisions that are made with respect to sanctions, the president wants to reserve that authority and that right to himself. Jasmine? Thanks, Carolyn. Two questions for you.
Caroline Levitt
The first on AI.
Emily
Does President Trump support federal agencies contracting with Elon Musk's AI Company? I don't think so, no. Okay.
Tulsi Gabbard
So he would want the DOJ to.
Emily
Then cancel the contract with Iran. I'll talk to him about it. Yes.
Caroline Levitt
And my second question, just, you know.
Emily
Obviously the developments with the Epstein case.
Tulsi Gabbard
With the judge, but I wonder, has.
Emily
The White House, White House counsel, the DOJ explored any other documents that could.
Tulsi Gabbard
Be released to the public that don't.
Emily
Have to do with that grand jury testimony? Ms. To my knowledge, the Department of Justice has moved forward with the request to unseal that grand jury testimony. And as you know, they have also moved forward with interviewing Ms. Maxwell, which I believe will be taking place very soon. Go ahead. Sure.
Caroline Levitt
Thanks, Caroline. I have a question about Paul Ingracia, the OSC nominee, who faces a Senate committee hearing to make tomorrow. Thom Tillis said that he wouldn't vote for Ingrazia if he came to the, if a vote came to the Senate floor. Two dozen worker advocacy groups have said that they wouldn't, you know, they don't support his nomination. What is the White House planning to do to sort of turn the tide or convince legislators that they should vote for him.
Tulsi Gabbard
Ms.
Emily
The White House is always in communication with members of both the Senate and the House. And we stand by the president's nominees. Sure.
Caroline Levitt
In connection with the Mueller investigation, a grand jury indicted 13 Russians. President Putin has said he will never extradite those men, given the new information that Ms. Gabbard has found. What's the administration's position on that case? Should those charges be dropped?
Emily
I don't have an update for you on that case, but I'll check in with the National Security Council and our team will get you something. Sure.
Congresswoman Anna Polina Luna
Thank you so much.
Dr. Taylor Marshall
So Fannie Willis and Jack Smith, separately.
Jack Posobiec
They both charged President Trump with conspiracy.
Dr. Taylor Marshall
To defraud the United States and a conspiracy to overturn the 2020 election.
Jack Posobiec
Now, it turns out we're confirming that Obama and his cronies were doing that the whole time in 2016 on a.
Dr. Taylor Marshall
Massive scale, falsifying documents and having their intel agencies do this. What does this, what does this say about 2020 election?
Jack Posobiec
And also, yeah, what's your thoughts on the irony here?
Emily
There is a lot of irony, especially for the party of the Democrat Party who claims to be for democracy. We often heard throughout the 2024 campaign they were calling this president a threat to democracy. And now I think the declassification of all of these documents proves that they were indeed the true threat to democracy. And as I said repeatedly to the there needs to be justice and accountability for that. You all will hear directly from the president later this afternoon at the AI summit here in Washington, D.C. scheduled to speak later in a few hours. So we will see you all there. Thank you very much.
Jack Posobiec
All right, folks, we just finished up that absolute whirlwind press briefing there from the White House, Caroline Levitt, as well as the Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, releasing these emails that talked about Hillary, her health, her heavy tranquilizer use, the involvement of the Hillary campaign and the highest levels of the White House directly to create this fake Russia collusion hoax narrative. We have now Congresswoman Anna Polina Luna to react to all of this and give us an update on Epstein. Let's talk to that. All right, guys, we are here with an incredible congresswoman who needs no introduction. Congresswoman Anna Polina Luna, you were there with us at the Turning Point Student Action Summit. You promised us more was coming out. And let me just be the first to thank you and give you full credit for that because we've heard that promise. So Many times before, but you actually backed it up. Not only are we seeing traction from the AG, but but this massive release from the DNI's office, multi day release regarding the 2016 election. I've got to get your response to everything from dni, Tulsi Gabbard.
Congresswoman Anna Polina Luna
Yeah, so everything happening with Gabbard. We were actually just at the White House yesterday and President Trump had even stated what Tulsi has really found and been able to release. So many questions among member of Congress, like first and foremost, why did his former ODNI person not release this information? You're seeing really two separate administrations, even though it's the same president, one that's actually following through and delivering on what he wanted, which is full transparency for the American people. And his previous administration that seemed like they were absolutely deep state puppets and working against the President's agenda every step of the way. Which to be honest with you, Tulsi for releasing this information. Look, a lot of people forget that these are also to the same people that tried to paint Tulsi Gabbard as a Russian asset. We all know that that's completely fake. But the fact that she was able to release this information, not only does it give 100% credibility to President Trump, this is no longer a left wing spun conspiracy theory. There's evidence to back it. I think that there needs to be arrests and I actually am doing a calling. I'm calling on the Department of Justice to arrest all of the heads of these intel departments that actually were responsible for putting out this false information. It's 18 U.S. code 1001. If you falsify reporter make a false statement to Congress, it comes up to a seven year prison sentence and $250,000 in fines. But I think it just goes a lot deeper than that because you're also finding in the same intelligence reports some stuff about Hillary Clinton, her health. They were trying to cover up for that. And then obviously at the same time, they spent over 10 years really using this one lie and working against the American people, undermining President Trump's administration. So right now is the time to act. We can't wait. These people need to be arrested. Any other person would be. We'd be in jail for what they did. And so this is really now on the doj. And I think that Congress also too, if the DOJ is not going to act, which I don't think that that's going to be the case, I think the DOJ will ask. But in the event that they don't, and we are asking for information, and they do not produce. I will be the first to call for an inherent contempt vote in Congress.
Jack Posobiec
I mean, this is. It's monumental. And I'll just say, speaking as someone who worked in the intelligence community in 2016, I had the opportunity to read the ICA when it was put out. Obviously, we didn't have this level of detail as to the unpublished version of the ica, but I can just remember even having read the classified part of it in Congresswoman Luna. It made no sense whatsoever. I've never seen a product that looked like that. I've never seen the intelligence community get so involved in domestic political politics before. It's certainly something that I noticed when I was there, the politicization and experience, the politicization of the intelligence services. And I've. I've had. I've had members of the intelligence community, people that I served with, people who are still serving now, calling me all weekend saying they can't believe that doors aren't getting kicked down because of this behavior.
Congresswoman Anna Polina Luna
I mean, look, you're not wrong. I think that this is really egregious. And it's even crazier to see that, you know, the media took this and ran with it, spun it, they smeared it. They literally use this to violate people's constitutional rights. Again, the DOJ has to act. If they don't act, then this is truly a lost country. But I don't think that that's going to be the case. I think that AG Bondi will act on this. I think that there are good people at these intelligence agencies now that will continue to come forward. And even Tulsi said that she actually was notified. People who had worked under the. The Obama administration came forward because they were grossed out about how this had taken place. Whistleblowers. And so there's going to be more to come on this. And, you know, people get frustrated. They say, well, why isn't Congress doing more? And you just have to remember that Congress is a legislative authority. We are not the judiciary authority. That's the DOJ and the Department of Justice. And so for us specifically, we can do the fact finding, we can make referrals, but ultimately, we are very limited as far as punitive action. But I do think, you know, President Trump has stated this is a witch hunt from day one. He was right on that. His supporters were right on that. I would say that because of what Obama did was really the first fracture that you saw in American politics between right and left and really destroying the civility that we had for one another in regards to politics. And so, you know, he should be called to answer for what he's done. And so we'll see what happens.
Jack Posobiec
Now, flipping that a little bit. I know you've only got a couple of minutes before you have to run, but we talked, and you and I talked so much down there at Turning Point, the Student Action Summit down in Tampa regarding the doj, regarding Epstein. You've of course, gone public with the destruction of FBI material that took place prior to President Trump taking office. We've seen a lot of movement Now, Ghislaine Maxwell, so many others. Where are we on Epstein?
Congresswoman Anna Polina Luna
Well, I can tell you, just yesterday, a member of oversight made the motion to subpoena Ghislaine Maxwell. And so she'll be coming in to give deposition. That's something that, you know how a subpoena typically works. And people are like, why isn't she coming in immediately? And it's because the House is going into August recess now. The Senate will be here. But ultimately that motion was made shortly after the AG actually announced that she also wanted to speak to Ghislaine Maxwell to see if she had any information on third parties that they could basically bring charges against. And so it's going to be interesting to see if Ghislaine Maxwell can produce. I also think, though, that for Ghislaine Maxwell, she's trying to get a pardon. And I don't think that she should get pardoned. I think that she belongs in jail because of her sex trafficking crimes. But, you know, it doesn't mean that the American people don't deserve to hear what she has to say. So that's the first thing. Obviously, we want transparency. The second thing is, is that you're also seeing that, you know, there's a push to release information. And I think, I do believe that AG Bondi will be probably releasing files pertaining to the investigations, et cetera. And I haven't changed my stance on that. I still think that that's something that, you know, there's, there's no reason to hold back on that. And so I'm just continuously saying we should just see full, total transparency how we did with jfk.
Jack Posobiec
Well, I think that's right. And also just from my perspective, again, having served in the ic and, you know, I wasn't a prosecutor, but I was at Guantanamo Bay. And, you know, people say to me, well, what if people use Oz to ask us, well, how do you know what they're saying is true? How do you know they're not just lying to you. And of course, anyone who's locked up, they've got information, but they also have their motivations. So this, I think, is going to be something and I. And what steps do you think that will be taken to verify any information that she does put out, testimony, things like this? Because of course, obviously she's got a lot of motive. A lot of people think that she wants to cut a deal with the doj.
Congresswoman Anna Polina Luna
Well, yeah, and that's, that's exactly has been my kind of voice from the beginning. Like, why did she choose now? Remember, if you even just look at a simple search on X from the Democrat Party, they made not one mention of Jeffrey Epstein when Joe Biden was in office literally the entire time. In fact, it was a Democrat senator that went to block Marsha Blackburn's motion to actually get Jeffrey Epstein's flight logs. Right. So that's the first thing. The second thing is, is that, you know, according to whistleblower testimony, and I know that there's an investigation into this right now, or that it's actively being looked into, is that it is very likely the evidence was destroyed on the way out under the former deputy director of the FBI's leadership. And so that's something that they obviously, and look, I'm not a forensic investigator, but I would think that there'd be some way where they would be able to tell whether or there's been tampering of evidence. But ultimately, I think that that's why the DOJ has said, look, credible information, absolutely, release it. That's something that the President has advocated for as well as unsealing those grand jury indictments. Not just indictments, excuse me, grand jury testimony, which the American people should also see. And then I would say literally anything pertaining to the investigations as a whole, whether it's Jeffrey Epstein or Glenn Maxwell, that should be all out there and searchable for the American people.
Jack Posobiec
And the fact that you're making what you're saying, put it out there and make it searchable. I mean, I've said this repeatedly, but you look at what the Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard has done here. She, she doesn't overhype things. She doesn't play up things that don't later pan out. She waits, she bides her time. She says there's going to be announcement. She makes the announcement and then boom, the release comes out. And by the way, Congresswoman, I have to say that's exactly the same thing that you have done in your various task for releases that have come out thus far. And I just want to say to you and both of you, I. We really appreciate, and our audience certainly appreciates the meticulous nature and the serious nature that you take as pertains to these serious investigations into actual crimes.
Congresswoman Anna Polina Luna
Thank you. Thank you. We appreciate that. And you're going to see more to come. I can announce this now, but we just got word also to. Just pertaining to the JFK investigation. A lot of people were like, why does this matter? Well, it matters because of what you're seeing right now. Unchecked corruption and the intelligence agencies can result in people getting killed, and it can result in presidents getting killed. And you're seeing this literally. It's kind of weird because it's serendipitous timing that all this is flushing out two very different points in history, but two very similar outcomes. And so we're working to get at the facts, but we also were made aware that the Russian government is going to be releasing their independent investigation into Lee Harvey Oswald for the American people to also help kind of close any questions that. That they might have on the JFK assassination. And that's important because in the 90s, the assassination review board tried to tame those files and that they are denied. And so we are now able to access them.
Jack Posobiec
Wow, that's incredible. And this is something where, you know, it makes me think of sort of the, you know, East Berlin and East Germany when the Stasi, you know, after the Wall fell, they allowed people to go in. And Poland, you're allowed to do this as well and go and look up your own file. But the Soviets writ large haven't always been willing to do so. Congresswoman Anna Polina. And Luna, I know you've got to run when this all happens. We've got to get you back on.
Congresswoman Anna Polina Luna
Perfect. Thanks, Jack. We'll talk soon.
Jack Posobiec
God bless. We'll talk very soon. Folks, Congresswoman Anna Polina Luna. Her word is as good as Bond. You can take that to the bank. We will be right back here. Human Events Daily. Real America's voice. Do not touch that dial or Roku or Amazon fire or whatever the kids have these days.
Caroline Levitt
Jack is a great guy. He's written a fantastic book. Everybody's talking about it. Go get it. And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event. And we're going to turn it around and make our country great again.
Jack Posobiec
Amen. All right, Jack, what's up? We're back here. Human events daily, Washington, D.C. now, we were planning on having a Longer conversation about this today. But DNI came out and dropped all this on us, so have to deal with that. But there was an inflection point over the weekend regarding the bombing of a Catholic church which was damaged in bombing in Gaza. And over the weekend there was this huge firestorm online regarding this. Many Christians rallied around the bombing of a church and yet there was also some controversy regarding it. So I wanted to get on Dr. Taylor Marshall here. He's got his incredible new book, Christian Patriots that's coming out. My mom read it. She wrote the, I think first review or full length review of it on humanevents.com But Dr. Marshall, tell us why was this church that was bombed or you know, we'll say damaged in a bombing because you know, they're saying it wasn't targeted. I, I personally, I really hope that it wasn't actually targeted. Why did this become such an inflection point online? Cardinal Pizza Balla, someone that you and I have talked to, talked about many times, actually went there and performed the mass I think within days after this bombing. Why did this touch, touch off so many people?
Dr. Taylor Marshall
Well, it's not the first example of this. I believe this is the fifth or sixth. Two women were actually shot by idf, allegedly snipers and they said that was an accident as well. So there's, there's been a number of accidents. And I think people in the west and Christians in the west are patient and they're gracious and they say, oh, it's an accident. But when we see accident upon accident upon accident and the front of a church is shot and three people die, 10 are injured, including the pastor, it kind of got everybody vocal saying why do these things keep accidentally happening? Because there's not many churches in Gaza. I think there's three active churches in Gaza. The Eastern Orthodox Church has been hit, the Catholic Church has been hit. And people realize this isn't just a place where people are worshiping, they're also taking refuge in there because people have lost their homes or neighborhoods, supplies. So yeah, people died. And people online on X social media, they're saying, wait, is this just another accident? How come these accidents keep happening? And then it kind of, you said inflection point. You know, Joel Berry over at the Babylon V, you know, he had a tweet, I don't know if you have it, but in a sense he said, you know, these, I hate to say this people aren't going to like it, but these people who are taking refuge in Holy Family Catholic Church in Gaza support Hamas and Boy, that just really blew the roof off, pun intended. For Christians all over the world saying, wait a second, these Christians had their church shot, three died, ten injured, pastors injured. And you're saying, well, you know, they're basically Hamas supporters. So wink, wink. The insinuation I read is they kind of have it coming. They are a military target. And that's just completely unacceptable, you know, from a political point of view and from a Christian point of view, that someone who represents a Christian organization like Babylon be is going to cast shade like that. And at the end of the day, I mean, Jack, you're a Catholic, I'm a Catholic. We've kind of seen, unfortunately, you know, parallel to this, the idea that, well, Catholics and Eastern Orthodox aren't real Christians. And at the end of the day, a lot of these dispensationalists will say, well, a Jew in Israel is more Judeo Christian than a Catholic or an Eastern Orthodox. And so, unfortunately, it's kind of caused this division and people are drawing up lines, and it's very unfortunate.
Jack Posobiec
Yeah, I remember seeing what this. This a couple of years back where there's some headline, and it was one of these. These, you know, sort of Christian but not really very Christian magazines out there. And it was on Twitter, and they said something about, like, they said something along the lines of, like, Christianity Today or one of these types. And they said something along the lines of, well, you know, we, you know, we have to carry on in the tradition of the apostles because we don't have the churches that they founded still today. And then one of the actual churches in Ephesus responded to them on. On Twitter. It said, nope, still here. Still here, guys, I'm not sure, not sure where you, where you got that from.
Congresswoman Anna Polina Luna
And.
Jack Posobiec
And it's just a really, really bad, you know, it's. It's just, It's. It's not just bad theology. It's bad history. Right. There are Christian communities that have been there really since the time of Christ. And that's what this all comes down to.
Dr. Taylor Marshall
Yeah, I mean, we're talking about Christianity. The church is 2,000 years old. And I think there's a lot of people who, like you said, they forget that. And so they don't have a visible unity. They don't have a visible manifestation of the kingdom of God. And so I think, you know, since the early 1900s, mid-1900s, they look over there and they see a nation state called Israel. And they read their Old Testament and they're like, oh, this nation state started in 1948 is Israel from the Bible. And then they build an entire theology on that. And then, you know, bad theology always leads to bad outcomes. And so at the end of the day, this is a theological discussion amongst Christians and. And who receives privilege and who does not receive privilege.
Jack Posobiec
Right. And at the end of the day, you know, I'm happy to have that discussion, but we're also talking about matters of war and peace. And when I see a church get bombed, I'm going to say, you know what? You got to stop bombing the churches. Dr. Terrell Marshall, tell everyone where they can get the book.
Emily
Yeah.
Dr. Taylor Marshall
Christian patriot. 12 ways to create one nation under God. This is a Christian manifesto. The history and philosophy of politics in the Christian tradition is the first half of the book. The second half is 12 steps that that you can begin right now to change the culture and to push us over the edge for a Christian nation and Christian patriotism Forwards, written by Kansas City Chiefs kicker Harrison Butker. Great book, everybody. Pre order it@christianpatriotbook.com go get it, folks.
Jack Posobiec
Get your pre order in now. Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission. Lay ashore.
Podcast Summary: Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec
Episode Title: DNI Sec. Tulsi Gabbard Presser on Russiagate Docs + Exclusive Interview w/ Rep. Luna on Epstein
Release Date: July 23, 2025
In this episode of Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec, the host delves deep into the controversial revelations surrounding the January 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment (ICA) on Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. Presidential Election. The episode features a press briefing by Director of National Intelligence (DNI) Tulsi Gabbard and an exclusive interview with Congresswoman Anna Polina Luna, focusing on alleged manipulation within the intelligence community and connections to the Jeffrey Epstein case.
Jack Posobiec opens the episode by promoting the POSO Daily Brief, a free daily email service aimed at providing listeners with curated news to eliminate endless scrolling through media sources.
Quote:
"This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare."
— Jack Posobiec [00:02]
Tulsi Gabbard presents explosive claims regarding the January 2017 ICA, asserting that the Obama administration, led by high-ranking officials like John Brennan and James Clapper, fabricated intelligence to falsely link Russian President Vladimir Putin to influencing the 2016 election in favor of Donald Trump. She alleges that the intelligence community selectively reported information to support a predetermined narrative, disregarding reliable intelligence that contradicted their claims.
Key Points:
Notable Quotes:
"The intelligence community assessment did not cite any report where Putin indicated helping Trump win was an objective. The opposite is true."
— Tulsi Gabbard [09:15]
"John Brennan lied and he denied using this dossier in this intelligence assessment that President Obama ordered because he knew it was discredited."
— Tulsi Gabbard [09:45]
The session features a series of probing questions aimed at uncovering the depth of the alleged intelligence manipulation and its implications.
Highlighted Exchanges:
On Implicating Former President Obama:
Question: "Do you believe that any of this new information implicates former President Obama in criminal behavior?"
— Tulsi Gabbard [10:25] responds affirmatively, stating the evidence points to Obama's involvement in manufacturing the ICA.
Follow-Up: "Do you believe President Obama is guilty of treason?"
— Tulsi Gabbard [11:03]: She defers criminal charges to the Department of Justice but implies treasonous intent behind the intelligence manipulation.
On Previous Investigations:
On Russia's Intentions:
On Epstein Case Involvement:
Notable Quotes:
"Look at the evidence and you will know the truth."
— Tulsi Gabbard [13:21]
"There needs to be justice and accountability for that."
— Emily [17:50]
Jack engages in an in-depth discussion with Congresswoman Luna, focusing on the DNI's revelations and the ongoing Epstein investigations.
Key Points:
Notable Quotes:
"These people need to be arrested. Any other person would be. We'd be in jail for what they did."
— Congresswoman Luna [38:52]
"We should just see full, total transparency... like we did with JFK."
— Congresswoman Luna [46:51]
The episode concludes with further commentary on the revelations and their historical parallels. Jack Posobiec underscores the gravity of the intelligence manipulation and the necessity for continued investigations. He also touches upon related geopolitical issues, such as the bombing of a Catholic church in Gaza, prompting Dr. Taylor Marshall to discuss its implications.
Notable Quotes:
"These are very sensitive negotiations that are currently taking place."
— Emily [30:05]
"It's completely unacceptable... who represents a Christian organization like Babylon be is going to cast shade like that."
— Dr. Taylor Marshall [53:41]
This episode of Human Events Daily presents a narrative challenging the mainstream discourse on Russiagate, asserting that intelligence was manipulated to serve political ends. Through authoritative interviews and pointed questions, the podcast calls for transparency, accountability, and a re-examination of past intelligence assessments. The discussions also bridge into broader topics, including the Epstein case and current geopolitical tensions, emphasizing the show's stance against perceived deep-state conspiracies and advocating for "unfiltered and factual updates" as per its mission.
Disclaimer: The views and statements presented in this summary reflect those expressed by the podcast participants and do not represent the assistant's endorsements or opinions.