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Holy Monday and the Passing of Pope Francis - Who's Next?
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Jack Posobic
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Donald Trump
A commentator, international social media sensation and.
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Dr. Taylor Marshall
Former Navy intelligence veteran.
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Jack Posobic
This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobic. Christ is King.
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Donald Trump
Pope Francis has passed away.
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Dr. Taylor Marshall
Thousands of people have already gathered. The Pope will be lying in State at St. Peter's Basilica.
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Jack Posobic
He was the 266th pope and the first Latin American head of the Catholic Church.
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Dr. Taylor Marshall
Everyone knew that he had been going through some health challenges and he clearly appeared fragile and frail, but still in good spirits nonetheless. And no one could have imagined that after yesterday, just hours after he made his final public appearance, that he would pass away overnight.
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Jack Posobic
7:35 this morning, the Bishop of Rome Francis, returned to the home of the Father. His entire life was dedicated to the service of the Lord and of his church, End quote.
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Donald Trump
We are now hearing from President Donald Trump posting on truth, quote, rest in peace, Pope Francis.
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Jack Posobic
God bless him and all who loved him. Vice President J.D.
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Donald Trump
Vance.
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Jack Posobic
He released a statement this morning saying.
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Dr. Taylor Marshall
My heart goes out to the millions.
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Jack Posobic
Of Christians all over the world who loved him.
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Donald Trump
May God rest his soul. I just signed an executive order putting the flags of our country, all of them, all federal flags and state flags, at half mast in honor of Pope Francis. He was a good man, worked hard. He. He loved the world.
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Jack Posobic
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily. Here live in Washington D.C. today is Holy Monday, April 21, 2025. Anno Domini. Sede vacante. Sede vacante. Sede vacante. The seat is vacant. The fisherman's ring has been broken. Pope Francis's authority has ended. Pope Francis has passed on rescuiatim pace. So when a Pope dies, there is a process that takes place. The confirmation of death is made by. The camerlengo of the Holy Roman Church confirms it. The fisherman's ring. The signet is then destroyed, signifying the end of his authority, the end of his papacy. Obviously, it also prevents misuse that he uses to seal official documents People, bulls. Vatican has made the official announcement. We are now in the first of the nine days of mourning during which in the Vatican all official church business and official proceedings will be halted with preparations for the burial of Pope Francis. And I have seen some reports, by the way, that he may not be, in fact, buried in the crypt beneath St. Peter's Basilica. So we will look for that next. Of course, as everyone knows, the conclave of cardinals, the Curia will meet to choose the next pope. And in fact, the conclave will be held, as is tradition, within the confines of the Sistine Chapel itself, behind the closed doors, only cardinals under 80 years old will now be eligible to vote. And so this will happen within about two weeks. And of course, as the votes are taken, they are then burned. And if no pope is chosen in the vote, black smoke will appear above the Sistine Chapel in the chimney. When a pope is in fact elected, white smoke will appear. And so I say to all the traditional Catholics out there, get to Rome if you can be outside the conclave. Pray the rosary loudly in Latin. Make your voices heard. Now is the time for the traditional ascendants, because we are in a traditional awakening here in the Western church. Make your voices heard. We will have a Pope that believes in the traditional rights of the Catholic faith and what America first truly means. Welcome to the second American Revolution. All right, folks, Jack Posobic. And we're back here. Real America's voice as well. I want to bring in the Charlie Kirk audience on the Salem Radio Network on this day, where we woke up to news that we did not expect to find, although we are not surprised, the death of the pontiff, Pope Francis, dead at 88. And we actually already had Dr. Taylor Marshall, the author of Infiltration, a book all about how the deep church really has been working to change the immutable characteristics and the immutable principles of the church was already going to be on with us today. And so, Dr. Marshall, I've got to get your initial reaction here. This is obviously someone you've written about quite extensively, you spoken about quite extensively. But more to the point, we now have an opportunity within the church for the traditional and growing, and I would say ascendant church being the traditional right to finally have their voice heard.
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Dr. Taylor Marshall
Dr. Marshall, thanks for having me on. Christ is risen. Hallelujah.
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Jack Posobic
Hallelujah. Christ came.
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Dr. Taylor Marshall
Yeah, I mean, it's it. First off, may he rest in peace. May he receive mercy in the afterlife. We. We pray and commend all souls to God's mercy and to their Forgiveness. And so we pray for that. But what's on the minds of a lot of American Catholics, Argentinian Catholics, several countries in Europe where Pope Francis has not been favorable and have experienced scandals and confusions and questions about his leadership. This raises the question, will someone in his legacy continue to carry his torch or will there be a very sharp break? Will the cardinals elect a man that is noticeably against or contrary to the current trajectory? Because the last 12 years have been in many demographics in the Catholic Church, one of decline. You still see tremendous growth in places like Africa and certain regions of Asia. I think a lot of that was already energized by missionary work that's been going on for decades and also population growth. But places where Christianity, Catholicism has been deeply rooted for centuries. There's been generally a confusion or dislike for Pope Francis. And I think the bishops and I think the cardinals feel that. And so they're going to have to decide, can we continue to try to map a egalitarian, more liberal, more modern attempt of Catholicism over this 2000 year Catholic Church, or do we need to elect a man who is going to be fervently orthodox Catholic and who's going to stand up on questions like abortion, same sex marriage, you know, all these modern issues? Pope Francis has a reputation of being tolerant, liberalized, more open than obviously the last 2,000 years. That's really the question. So it's who's going to be the next pope? And I have some thoughts on that if you want to talk about it. And but that's the question that you're going to be seeing discussed for the next two to three weeks. Who is the next pope? And I think we, for the next.
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Jack Posobic
Five years, I think we should talk about it. And by the way, and I'll just say it and I'll see if you agree with me. I said on War Room this morning that traditional Catholics, Latin, Right, Catholics, whether in Europe, whether you're in America, if you can be there, if you have the means, go to Rome, go to Rome for the Conclave and be out there taking up space in St. Peter's Square so that they hear you inside the Sistine Chapel. That's where the votes take place. It's not going to be right away. It'll be in a little while. But when they're in there for the Conclave, be outside praying in Latin, the praying the rosary in Latin so loud that they can hear you from the inside. So they know, so they know that the traditional, the traditional aspect of the Church, this is what's attracting Gen Z, particularly males. But men and women, you see the veils now it's women over 60 and women under 30. And this past Easter, look. And I got reports from all across the country. Churches were spilling out into the streets. There were cars up and down the road. This was an Easter unlike any we've ever seen in our lifetime because something is happening. You've got Christian movies that are, you know, know, selling out coast to coast. Christ, you know, King is king of kings. We took the kids to see that. Just a great kids movie for about Jesus. It's all about. And it's not just the passion, by the way, it's the whole from. It's from Bethlehem all the way to Christ's ascension, believe it or not, in that film. And something is clearly going on where people have had enough with the excesses of the secular world. Sorry, secularist, you guys had your shot. You blew it on Covid. You blew it on these wars of aggression. We're done with it. We're done with all of it. It's time for the return of traditional Christians for Orthodox Catholics. Or also, by the way, our Eastern brothers are coming on board now. Everybody is getting in line with that. So I think people need to get there because Dr. Marshall, what I see is a real chance here for the traditional Catholic movement to actually have a voice inside that conclave and a direct impact on it.
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Dr. Taylor Marshall
You've nailed it. You're exactly correct. And you know, my wife and I over coffee this morning discussing the death of the Pope, we were discussing exactly what you said. You know, every, everything is in place. You know, we have the onboarding of traditional Catholics. We have young people. You mentioned, you know, the young women veiling in church, men that are 15 to 30. We saw, you know, Tulsi Gabbard's son willingly decided to join and become a Catholic this year. Young people all over a college campus south of me had 70 people, 70 young people baptized in the Catholic Church, a church down the street for me, 100 people over the. The Pascal weekend. So there's huge swell. And what's lacking right now, the, the feature that's lacking is a Pope who is dynamically orthodox, biblical, liturgical, who's out in front leading the charge. Despite not having that, we're experiencing tremendous growth. And it's not just in the US France is seeing tremendous numbers over the weekend. And so this is the moment. This is the moment. If the cardinals, led by the Holy Spirit, elect a man who will make Catholics proud, Catholics can get behind him. Not Not a pope who is more fitted for the United nations or the European Union or the WHO or Davos, not that kind of pope, but a pope who was out there preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ, even if it is unpopular, even if it gets him in trouble. If they get that. Wait till next Easter, Jack. Next Easter will be fivefold. It'll be tremendous. So that's what we need to see.
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Jack Posobic
It's, it's what we need to see. And these ideas of, and look, you know, we had, we had, we had Roger Stone on, you know, about a month ago, walking us through this and we're going to play some of that video later, go through the different cardinals, but when it comes down to it, look, there's a movement that has now taken place that I think is bigger than anyone realized. You see it in, in polling, you see it in churches, you just see it in churches where people are spilling out. You and I have spent the last five years talking about the growth of the Latin Right Mass, the tlm. And this has been something, by the way, it was spurned on by Covid, I think, in a way because the modernists just completely collapsed, just completely collapsed in the face of real tyranny. And suddenly people said, I need to go somewhere that understands that God comes first, that Christ comes first. And it feels like these wishy washy modernists are just not quite getting there. And by the way, you even see it in, in priests, people are noticing now that any priest under 40, you know, maybe even under 45, suddenly they're not liberal. New priests seem to be largely conservative. And we're seeing this bear out in the polls last, last 30 seconds in the segment. Dr. Taylor Marshall.
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Dr. Taylor Marshall
Yeah, I think one of the most interesting elements here is that Cardinal Sarah, who is a cardinal from Africa, who's been a Papa Vila, those are the, the cardinals who have a likely chance of becoming a pope. They're papable. He turns 80, which would cut him off from the election in about a month, I believe. And so the fact that Pope Francis has died and given a month and it usually takes, you know, two to four weeks to elect a pope after the death of the pope. The fact that we have this month window and Cardinal Sarah is so popular and he has one month left, I think would really be an amazing Holy Spirit moment.
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Jack Posobic
Let's get into that. Let's get into that. In the Next segment here, Dr. Taylor Marshall, the death of Pope Francis.
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Donald Trump
Now that you talk about influencers, these are influencers and they're friends of mine, Jack Where's Jack?
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Dr. Taylor Marshall
Jack?
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Donald Trump
He's got a great job.
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Jack Posobic
All right, Jack Posobic here, Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice, also the Charlie Kirk audience. Bringing you in the third hour of the Salem Radio Network. We're on with Dr. Taylor Marshall, who is a traditional Catholic author. He also has a new book that's coming out. I want to make sure we have time to mention that. But Dr. Marshall, with the death of Pope Francis, who are some of the names you mentioned? Cardinal Serra. Who are some of the names that you'd be looking for the conclave to really consider here to bridge this gap that we've seen that we're talking about, that you've spent your entire career talking about between the modern church and the rise of the ascendant traditional church?
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Dr. Taylor Marshall
Well, I think there's probably about 20 cardinals that, that have a good chance. There's a, there's a saying in Rome. You know, he who enters the conclave, a pope, leaves a cardinal. That is, the cardinals who have probably the, the most people behind them going into the car into the conclave tend not to be elected Pope. There's often a, usually there's, there's a, there's two polarizing candidates and you need a two thirds majority to elect a pope. And so they can, it's very hard to reach a two thirds majority. And so what happens is one side lets go of their candidate and the other side will let go of their candidate and they find someone that they can all vote for and that's the one who becomes pope. And you have a good graphic there on the screen of the Papa Billy. I think for traditional Catholics, they're looking at a few cardinals. We already mentioned Cardinal Serra. He's from Africa. He's the third from the left on there. He, he represents, you know, he worked in the Vatican for, for the pope on sacraments and the liturgy. He's not like a hardcore traditionalist, like Latin Mass only all the time, but he was tolerant of it. He said even in the, in the new Mass, the vernacular Mass there should be ad orientum. He's more of an advocate for communion on the hand communion rails. You know, the aesthetics of what you would see in Catholicism before 1965. You know, you can think of any great Catholic movie you've seen like the Bells of St. Mary or the Cardinal or any of those old movies that aesthetic, and it's not just an aesthetic, it's a theology. But what you see there. Cardinal SARAH and you have to remember the African Christians in many of These places. Some of the African Christians go back, like in Egypt, all the way back to the first century, St. Mark. But most of them were evangelized in the last 100 years. So their. Their great parents, their great grandparents, they were not baptized, they were not Christian. And so when they received Christianity, they received it in the traditional Latin rite. And I have a friend who. Who's. Who said his. His parents and grandparents were very disappointed. In the 60s and 70s, they had memorized all the Latin chants. And the new missionaries came, the kind of modern liberal guys like, no, you got to beat on these drums. You got to be Africans during Mass. And they're like, no, we want to chant the Latin. So that's kind of their background. I think Cardinal Robert Serra represents that. Another cardinal that I think is more of a moderate but somewhat conservative cardinal is Cardinal Peter Erdo. He is the cardinal from Hungary.
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Jack Posobic
From Hungary, right.
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Dr. Taylor Marshall
Are familiar, you know, with the conservative reforms in Hungary, trying to raise birth rates, trying to promote families. He represents the old guard of Europe, and. But he's not liberal, and he's more of an administrator. He's not really known for being a theologian or writing, you know, theological treatises, but he is known for being more conservative. And I think he would not only be tolerant of traditional Catholics, but he would. He would give them, you know, rights, freedom, and expansion. So I see him as. As a very likely candidate, especially if they go into the conclave with two extremes. I can see them coming to him because, a, he's moderate to. To right, and I hate to use these political terms, but just for the sake of brevity on your show, he's moderate to right, and he's. He's European, you know, and there's. There is kind of this idea that we need to kind of keep things rooted in Europe, though. I think that's a really.
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Jack Posobic
That it does tend to be that way. Do Marshall, we've only got one minute left. I know you've got to run. I want to be respectful of your time. Tell us real quick about a little bit of a preview of your upcoming book.
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Dr. Taylor Marshall
Yes, I've got a great book coming out. It's called Christian 12 Ways to Create One Nation Under God. And we have seen the United States of America an amazing transformation over the last several months. And I think a lot of people are thinking, well, what's next? What can we do? And I just give the history of America and also Christian politics going back 2000 years of what Christians have been able to accomplish in creating a Christian conservative Culture. And I argue in the book, it's not enough to just be conservative. We have to be based on God. We have to be based on natural law. And it's okay for us also to be based on Christianity. Everyone expects, you know, they're like, oh, Israel is a Jewish country. All these Arab countries are Muslim countries. You say, oh, I think this western country should be Christian. Everybody thinks, oh, that's, you know, from, from day one.
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Jack Posobic
From day one, America has had a Christian majority and maintained a Christian majority even in the face of everything. Dr. Taylor Marshall, go give him a follow. The book is Christian Patriot. Go check that out. As soon as it drops, we'll be right back here. Human Events Daily. Jack Posobic.
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Donald Trump
And Jack. Where's Jack? Where's Jack? Where is he? Jack, I want to see you. Great job, Jack. Thank you. What a job you do. You know, we have an incredible thing. We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys, and these are the guys should be getting policies.
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Jack Posobic
All right, folks, we're back. Jack Posobic, Human Events Daily. Real America's voice. Bringing in also the third hour of the Charlie Kirk audience on the Salem radio Network. Network. Folks, listen up because I'm about to put you onto something that'll change the way you start your day. Blackout coffee. It's not just coffee. It's a wake up call, a call to rise and grind, to push harder, to never compromise on what you stand for. This isn't your average cup of joe. Every bag of blackout coffee is roasted with purpose, packed with bold flavor, and fueled by the kind of values that built this country. Grit, determination, and a refusal to back down. They don't just make coffee, they make a statement. Blackout coffee is stepping up, adding more warriors to get your orders out faster than ever. So when you hit the order now button, you know your coffee's coming fresh and ready to fuel your next move. Whether you're powering through the daily grind, chasing big goals, or just refusing to settle for mediocrity, blackout coffee has got your back. Don't just drink coffee, drink blackout. Go to blackout coffee.com poso and use promo code POSO for 20% off your first order. Taste the coffee. That doesn't just wake you up, it fires you up. That's blackout coffee.com post. I want to bring in now a clip from a show we did a couple of weeks ago with Roger Stone on who will be the next pope. Roger, when. When you apply the the art of political prognostication. Or election prognostication to something like the papacy. Is it. Is it much different from when you're looking at, say, a seat in Congress or a presidential race?
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Donald Trump
You know, people tell you that the church or the military is not political. And of course, they're entirely political, Jack. So let's look at the process. If the pope goes on to meet his maker, you would have what is called a conclave. This is a gathering of all the popes from around the world. With the exception of those over 80, they are not permitted to vote. That is a significant setback for the more conservative elements of the church. But it's based on a rule that came out of Vatican II. So of the current College of Cardinals, 80% of them were chosen by Francis, who by any measure would have to be considered one of the most progressive popes in recent memory. Anyway, these elections, there's a cap, and the number can slightly differ. The cap on the number of votes they meet in the Sistine Chapel. They're essentially locked in, and they keep balloting until they have one candidate with a majority. Each one of the cardinals writes the name of their chosen candidate on a slip of paper, folds it, places it in a chalice on the altar. The ballots are counted by three scrutineers, and to win, a candidate needs 2/3, a majority of the votes. If nobody gets a majority, those ballots are burned with a chemical that smokes black. And therefore the smoke you see rising from the roof of the Sistine Chapel is black, means they do not yet have a pope. Only when they have a pope do they use a different chemical mix. And the smoke is white. The words habe miss papum, meaning we have a pope, is announced from the balcony. Now you look at the jockeying. Here we go. Cardinal Pietro Perolini, 70, of Italy. He's the Vatican Secretary of State. Parole may be the current frontrunner, if there is one. He's a moderate with extensive diplomatic experience. He's viewed kind of as a continuum of the current pope, although he has some controversial dealings, such as the Vatican's agreement with China, that could complicate his candidacy. Cardinal Luis Antonio Tago of the Philippines, known as the Asian Francis. He's again a leader of the progressive wing of the church, and he follows the current pope's pastoral approach. My sources tell me that he'd be the worst and probably the most left wing of the choices. Cardinal Matteo Zuppi of Italy, another favorite of Pope Francis. Zupi, is president of the Italian Episcopal Conference and a moderate, known for his social justice advocacy. Cardinal Fridolin Ambogo Basungi of the Congo. He's a strong conservative voice. I guess in a perfect world he'd probably be my first choice. He's a terrific long shot. Remember, Jack, that 80% of these voters were appointed by the current Pope. Cardinal Wim Egypt, a former doctor, another conservative known for actually opposing Francis views on marriage and abortion. Pardon me, marriage and divorce. His traditionalist stance would appeal to some cardinals to rebalance current reforms, but he again is a long shot. Cardinal Raymond Burke of the United States, an American traditionalist. Burke has clashed with Francis on issues like marriage, the Eucharist, same sex marriage. He's a long shot, but he represents a more conservative vocal faction. My sources think Burke would launch major reforms to strengthen the church until young Catholics who are overwhelmingly conservative are ready to take the helm. Then there's Cardinal Peter Erdo of Hungary, 72, a conservative canon lawyer respected for his adherence to church doctrine and his kind of low profile approach. He again would attract some moderate and conservative votes to the extent that there are conservative votes. Remember, the current Pope appointed 80% of the electorate in this particular election. And then of course there's Cardinal Mario Griche of Malta. He is the Secretary General of the Synod of Bishops. He's a Francis appointee with an extremely progressive bent, emphasizing dialogue with marginalized groups. So if I had my pick, I would take Cardinal Robert Serra of Guinea. He'd be my first choice. He's a staunch conservative, a defender of the faith in the Church, believes in borders, believes in the rules of the West. We really couldn't do better than Cardinal Robert Serra of Guinea.
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Jack Posobic
So Roger, when, when, for folks that aren't even familiar with the way the car. The College of Cardinals works, for the understanding of them to be able to be voted on at all, one must be a member of the cardinals. And so this is your highest rung of the prelates of the Church other than the papacy itself. From those, from those ranks, someone must be chosen. It doesn't have to be a cardinal, but it is generally a cardinal. And I believe one of the requirements is that they must be under 80 years old.
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Donald Trump
That is one of the great disadvantages. It's one thing to say that the Pope should be under 80, but to deny a vote among the cardinals for those cardinals who were over 80 years, this makes no sense to me. In fact, somebody who's 80 years old would be very wise. That's someone you would want voting. We had, we had a President Ronald Reagan. He was 80 when he left office. He was among our greatest presidents. I think Donald Trump is 77. Why would you exclude those over 80? Unless of course, it's politics, which is what this is about.
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Jack Posobic
Well, that's right. And this is a new. So basically the idea is then that creates basically a quorum of people who were not appointed by previous popes. So Benedict or any of the John Paul II cardinals, if they're still around, that they wouldn't be able to participate in the voting. And then it sets it itself up in such a way where Francis essentially is sort of giving the inside track to his own successor. Do you believe that Pope Francis has picked a successor?
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Donald Trump
My guess is he probably has. Look, it's disappointing because Jack, like you, when I was raised in the church, it was a bulk work of anti communism. I watched, you know, Father Fulton Sheen on WPIX in New York growing up. That Catholic Church does not seem to exist except for in certain parishes. And outspoken conservatives like Bogano and others are actually excommunicated when they disagree with this pope. Now I've seen this pope say that the Bible specifically says that Jesus Christ was opposed to private property rights. That's not true. That's false. So look, the Bible is a practical document. I didn't always know this. I know it today. And it can be read for its literal word. But some of the things that have been projected onto it are shocking. Yes, as Catholics we have to have a concern for the poor. But in both the Old Testament and the New, hard work is highly prized, self enterprise and self responsibility. These are also enumerated in the Bible. You would know it from this pope.
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Jack Posobic
Well, that's exactly right, Roger. And in fact, there are many items of doctrine, capital punishment and others that have been long standing practices within the church that Pope Francis and the Jesuit and he is of the Jesuit stripe that have sought to overturn a doctrine that has been in touch for a long time. By the way, this is also, and we've been discussing it here on the show. I had a op ed on humanevents.com that went quite viral because we've been discussing the effect that this has had on one Amy Coney Barrett where she seems to have taken Pope Francis words and rhetoric over the actual doctrine of the church and certainly over the jurisprudence of the Supreme Court itself and the Constitution itself, and is taking sort of these ideas of Pope Francis and seemingly putting them into her decisions rather than looking at the long standing practices of the church. If she is, she claims to be a practicing Catholic. What about Thomas Aquinas. What about Augustine of Hippo? What about the church fathers? What about all of the popes prior to Pope Francis who have been in long standing opposition to many of the things that he said? Well, she seems to be applying that to her, to her voting now. And it has led to situations where she'll say that the president, United States doesn't even have authority to defund programs.
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Donald Trump
You know, back at the time that she was under consideration, the great argument was that she was both a great pro life champion. I was skeptical about her appointment then. Think how different things would be if President Trump had appointed Judge Andrew Napolitano to the court, which is who I think he should have pointed. Gorsuch is somewhat of a libertarian, being joined on the court by Napolitano, another libertarian. We have a very different day today on the so called Roberts court. Amy Comey Barrett has been a horrific disappointment, frankly, so has Kavanaugh. But if you knew, understood Kavanaugh's ties to the Clintons and the Bushes, you would have understood that prior to his being appointed as well.
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Jack Posobic
I think that's, I think that's very sound and I think it's something where, look, you know, a lot of us have, have talked about this and I came out with a, you know, perhaps a little bit provocative article. But hey, you know, it's kind of on brand for me where I said that this shows the danger of Republican DEI because people kept saying we need to nominate a woman to replace Ruth Bader Ginsburg. We needed, Trump needs to, needs to nominate a woman because it was an election year, it was 2020 at the time and as it turned out, it had no effect on the election whatsoever. Obviously there are of other issues with the 2020 election, but it's also painted us into a corner where just because she was pro life and certainly there's no shortage of pro life conservatives in the legal field. Now we've got someone who's essentially a pro life liberal on the court for the rest of her life. Well, folks, you just heard it. There's Roger Stone copying for us who can be the next possible pope? This is Jack Posobic. You're listening to Human Events Daily on this auspicious and historic day here. Real America's Voice, Salem Radio Network. Be right back.
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Donald Trump
Jack is a great guy. He's written a fantastic book. Everybody's talking about it. Go get it. And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event. And we're going to turn it around.
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Dr. Taylor Marshall
And make our country great.
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Jack Posobic
Again.
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Dr. Taylor Marshall
Amen.
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Donald Trump
Look, I know you're trying to help.
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Dr. Taylor Marshall
But we've been fishing these waters our.
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Donald Trump
Whole lives and I can tell you, nobody's ever caught anything over there. But, you know, thanks anyway. Come on, what's the worst that could happen? We catch less fish. Fine, whatever. But I'm telling you, we are not going to see a single fish.
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Dr. Taylor Marshall
Have you ever seen so many fish?
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Donald Trump
No.
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Dr. Taylor Marshall
I can't believe this. There's so many. The net's about to break.
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Donald Trump
It's a miracle.
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Jack Posobic
Look at all the fish. What's going on? We were out there all morning and there weren't any fish.
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Donald Trump
Well, not anymore anyway.
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Dr. Taylor Marshall
I can't believe it.
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Donald Trump
Thank you.
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Jack Posobic
Thank you, teacher.
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Donald Trump
Put down your nets and follow me. But I will make you fishers of men.
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Dr. Taylor Marshall
But your catch will be followers of God.
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Jack Posobic
The most largest Easter. Most largest. The biggest Easter that I've ever experienced in my lifetime. I was talking to my parents about it. They said it was the biggest in their lifetime. Something is going on. Something is clearly going on. And yes, you're listening, Jack Posobic. This is Human Events Daily, third hour of the Charlie Kirk audience on the Salem Radio Network as well as Real America's Voice. What we're experiencing is a traditional awakening. It is spiritual. And yet it is deeper than anything that we've seen before. The secularists, they had their chance. They ruined it. They blew it. Look, believers in the faith. I don't know if you'd realize this. Up and through the 1990s, America was a Christian conservative country to the 90 percentile, 90th percentile, 90% Christian, even in the 1990s. Then it fell down to almost 60% by 2020. But here's what's very interesting. After the events of COVID it has sprung back up. It is actually seen an increase. And now America is almost at 70% conservative just. Or, excuse me, 70% Christian, just in the last five years. Why is this two things? The attempted cultural takeover of the woke, Marxists, neo Marxist left, as well as the excesses of secular Covid, which denied spirituality, which denied humanity itself. That's what you get when you begin to worship science. And we saw this through Covid. You cannot simply remove religion from the personal square without it finding a successor religion. So the religion of science, the religion of self, the worship of wokeness, all of this flooded into the public square. And the reaction has been a resounding no, we do not want this. We don't want these institutions to be taken over by these wild radical IDEOLOGIES and look, this is a positive thing. Churches are spilling out coast to coast, whether it's evangelical, that's biblical based, whether it's the orthodox Catholic, the traditional Latin mass, whether it is the orthodox Christian which had their Easter on the same date for once in, you know, once in a lifetime actually was on the same date. Understand this is a miracle. And what is one of the things that predicated those miracles? Well, it was the miracle we saw last year on July 13, the divine intervention in a field in Butler. So when all of these things are happening now and you've got movies that are positively portraying Jesus Christ as being the top box office attractions. Plus, by the way, I hear, not that I'm, you know, someone who watches this, but American Idol for the very first time ever, just found this out last night, did a three hour special all about Easter with songs of faith. Only for the first time in American Idols history, the White House putting out the gospel, quoting the gospel. One year after, on Easter Sunday, the White House was celebrating under Joe Biden or whoever was actually controlling the auto pen, the transgender day of visibility. No, we are seeing a backlash. We are in fact seeing a Christ lash. Christ is flipping over the tables from coast to coast against the neo Marxist left and saying, this will not do. This is not the place for any of these things. This is my father's house. My father's house will not be sullied. And so you're seeing the backlash. You're seeing the Christ lash. And I think it's a miracle and I think it's beautiful and I think it's incredible. And everyone who understands this should know that when America is led by believers, that is when America is at its best, when America understands that these things, by the way, they're not just an ideology, they're not just a philosophy. Yes, there are ideological aspects of Christianity and yes, there are certainly philosophical aspects and liturgical aspects and theological aspects, but at its core, this is real. Joshua Lysac, my co author, said last night, it's one thing to say I have faith that Jesus lived and died and rose for me, but it's another thing to say I think he did. I truly think that these things happen, that these things were real. From a rational perspective, I accept it as real. And if it is real, if the cross is real, if the tomb is real, if the shroud is real, then it's all real and it's all going to come place. Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay short.