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Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec
How Millennials Became Right-Wing, SCOTUS Protects Illegals?, and Declassifying the IC
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Jack Posobic
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Will Chamberlain
A commentator, international social media sensation and former Navy intelligence veteran. This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobic.
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Charlie Kirk
Christ is we are gonna, we're gonna get rid of the dyes and one by one we're gonna get rid of every ingredient, an additive in school, in food that we can legally address.
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Will Chamberlain
US Supreme Court heard ARG today on whether teachers can read books with LGBTQ themes to elementary school students without giving parents the chance to opt out due to religious reasons. America first does not mean America alone. To the contrary, it is a call for deeper collaboration and mutual respect among trade partners. By embracing a stronger leadership role, America first seeks to restore fairness to the international economic system.
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Jack Posobic
Marco Rubio is skipping Ukraine talks in London today. He had been expected to take part in discussions with Ukrainian, UK and European officials, but the State Department says Rubio will no longer attend due to, quote, logistical issues and it's time for them.
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Marco Rubio
To either say yes or for the United States to walk away from this process. We have engaged in an extraordinary amount of diplomacy of on the ground work. We've really tried to understand things from the perspective of both the Ukrainians and the Russians. What do Ukrainians care the most about? What are the Russians care the most about? And I think that we put together a very fair proposal. We're going to see if the Europeans, the Russians and the Ukrainians are ultimately able to get this thing over the finish line.
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Jack Posobic
Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily here live in Washington D.C. today is April 23, 2025 Anno Dominique. So there's this new poll that's come out from Real Clear Politics and it's been going viral and it's certainly taking up a lot of space rent free in my mind since it dropped. Now the headline of this is, and it is certainly worthy of discussion, oldest voters strongly disapprove of Trump. The only age demographic where Trump is underwater right now in the United States is, is over 70s. If you take out boomers that are over 70, Trump would actually have a plus plus four opinion support in the polls. But here's what's really interesting when you break this down even further. It's actually millennials and Gen Y, AKA Elder Millennials who are the most supportive of Trump. According to Real Clear politics with a plus 9 spread, almost a 10 point spread, 2 digit spread for Trump support among millennials. Gen Y. Weren't we told that the millennials were going to be the wokest generation? Weren't the millennials going to be, you know, the, the generation that, you know, was whining and complaining too much and yet now it's the millennials and Gen Y that are actually the most right wing and they support Trump far more than any other generation. And guess what? The millennials have seen a lot of culture shift. Remember this was the generation that was the last generation to experience the world and childhood without the Internet and without technology. They were the generation that came of age with 9, 11 with the Iraq war and huge cultural shifts. Let's talk about the fact that, that this was the generation that entered the workforce during the global financial crisis, took on a lot of debt. They've, they've also been the ones that the system has screwed over the most. Whether it's war, whether it's finances, whether it's them watching the bailouts that went to every single other part of society. And then all of a sudden all those moneyed interests turned around and said, the problem is you. The problem, the problem is toxic masculinity. The problem is religion. The problem is the people who live in this country. And those people, they're saying, you know what? I'm sick of this. This system isn't working for me. The system hasn't worked for us. It's delayed family formation, it's delayed homeownership. And they're saying we're sick of it. And so they view Trump as a change agent the way that the over 70s don't want change. Turns out it's the millennials and Gen Y that want change the most. And that's why they, and we, speaking as a member of Gen Y, support Trump and his efforts to actually fight the system. Godspeed, Mr. President. We'll be right back. And what America first truly means. Welcome first to the second American revolution. All right, Jack Paso. Look, here we are on live. This is Human Events. I want to welcome in also the third hour of the Charlie Kirk show and his audience on the Salem Radio network. Well, folks, you've heard me talk about Patriot Mobile for a while now. You've probably already known that for years they've stood in the gap for every American believes that faith, family and fighting for freedom are worth it. They're the real deal. But did you know they've got cutting edge technology too? Switching is easy. There's no store visits, there's no hassle. Guess what? You can keep your number, you can keep your phone, you can even upgrade your phone. Their 100% based team can activate you in minutes right over the phone. So call Patriot Mobile and get this. Patriot Mobile is one of the few carriers with access to all three major US Networks. That means exceptional nationwide coverage. Plus Patriot Mobile can even put a second number on a different network on one phone. So it's like carrying two phones in one. Patriot Mobile has unlimited data plans, mobile hotspots, Internet roaming, Internet on the go devices and home Internet backup. You can't get all this from the big guys. So what are you waiting for? Make the switch today and experience the Patriot Mobile difference. Go to patriot mobile.com poso or call 972 Patriot right now. Use promo code POSO for a free month of service@patriot mobile.com so a lot's been going down and coming down the pike, I should say, regarding immigration, illegal immigration, the powers of the president and of course the powers of the courts, the system of checks and balances. And of course we know that over the weekend, the Supreme Court came in over Easter weekend literally in the dead of night. And Justice Alito we talked about yesterday wrote that in his blistering dissent they blocked the president from using the Alien Enemies act for deporting members of Trend Aragua. Joining us to walk through this entire situation and some of the actually very interesting, I think, constitutional questions that arise from this decision is Will Chamberlain, who's with the Article 3 project. What's up, Will?
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Will Chamberlain
Good to be with you, Jack.
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Jack Posobic
So this is a really interesting question because as we were in the preparation for this interview, I pulled up. So I mentioned yesterday that in Article 4, Section 4 of the US Constitution, it says that the federal government has an obligation to defend the states from invasion, but it also doesn't define when exactly it is that that invasion starts. Well, if you go back to Inauguration day of this year, just about four months ago, almost, almost four months to the day here, President Trump in fact declared an invasion under the ina, the Immigration Nationalization act, and then later also declared Trend Iragua to be a foreign terrorist organization. And invoked the Alien Enemies Act. So walk us through this. What did the court say? What did the President do? And who's really in charge of declaring when an invasion is an invasion?
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Will Chamberlain
So I guess there's two different court cases that are relevant here. There's what the Supreme Court did, and there's what this district court in Colorado also did. I think it was yesterday the Supreme Court acted over Easter weekend. So what the Supreme Court did was it issued an administrative stay to prevent the deportation of a group of trend migrants. What the district court did was it actually issued a preliminary injunction, I believe, meaning that it did a full reason decision, essentially saying that because there was no invasion and that President Trump was wrong to declare what was happening at the southern border predatory incursion, and therefore his invocation of the Alien Enemies act was invalid. So we can, I mean, we can take either of those in turn. They're both wrong for very different reasons. We'll start, I guess, with the district court, because that's the easiest one. The district court is widely over its skis, and I got an argument with Ed Whelan of the EPPC over this. The district court doesn't get to second guess a president's determination that there has been an invasion or predatory incursion into the United States. The district court judge does not have an intelligence agency. They do not have an army. They do not have military intelligence. They have four law clerks. And that is not sufficient to put them in a position to have any reasonable way to determine that. The only role that a district court has is to look at the statute of the Alien Enemies act and say, has the President made the necessary invocation? Has he invoked, has he made the findings? If, if the President says there is an incursion, then I have to defer to that. If the President says there is an invasion, I have to defer to that. If they haven't made those invocations, I can say it is legally insufficient. But once those invocations are made, that should be the end of it. This district court judge didn't do that. I'm sure they're going to get reversed. And for some reason, this, this got Ed Whelan's ire. I thought this was a pretty uncontroversial statement, the idea that a district judge would get to say, well, you know, I don't think the facts on the ground actually meet the general understanding of what constitutes a predatory incursion. They don't get to do that. That's not their role. That's way over the line into Article 2 territory. What the Supreme Court did, they didn't actually issue a reasoned opinion. They just put in place an administrative stay. The reason what the Supreme Court did was so bizarre is they put in place this administrative stay before there had even been any kind of decision rendered by either the district court or the fifth Circuit Court of Appeals, which is wild. And Justice Alito, in a scathing dissent, called them out on it. This was all about. Alito was basically pointing out that, you know, you guys have talked about the need for the executive branch to follow the law, and here you are throwing out the entire Federal Rules of Appellate Procedure to reach for the opportunity to stop the administration from deporting some Venezuelan illegal immigrants. That's crazy. You guys should follow the law.
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Jack Posobic
And so this idea then that they are. And then walk us through actually how this is connected, because, again, this has been a law that's been on the books really, since the time of the Founding Fathers almost. It's almost as old as the current iteration of the American government itself. It goes back essentially to the ratification of the Constitution. So the idea that this is something that, you know, hasn't been well decided. Of course it's been well decided. It's. And, you know, I saw, you know, a bunch of liberal commentators, commentators saying, well, this is a very old law, said, yeah, so is the First Amendment, you know, but you guys don't seem to have a problem with that. Like, this is our system. So I guess the question then will, I would have to say, is, is the Supreme Court coming in and saying that the district court is right, that the President does have this authority, or could it be that the Supreme Court is coming in and potentially showing some signs of daylight that they might be looking at overturning this law on constitutional grounds?
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Will Chamberlain
I don't think they have any basis to overturn this law on constitutional grounds. And I don't think anybody's honestly making that argument. So I think that to the extent there's an argument that the plaintiffs are trying to make, they're trying to make this argument that not that the law is invalid, but that the President's findings are insufficient, meaning the President's wrong to say there's an invasion, so therefore he's not allowed to invoke this act. That's the basic plaintiff argument. As I understand it, it's a pretty ridiculous argument to say that this. This statute is unconstitutional. That's absurd. I mean, it was. Not only does it obviously fit squarely within the powers of the president under Article 2 to deal with our foreign affairs, to respond to, declare Handel be the commander in chief of the military, et cetera. But it's also the fact that it's a old law is actually a really good indicator that it is constitutional because it's the very founding generation that wrote the Constitution and that ratified the Constitution that passed this law. If they thought it was unconstitutional, it would have gone away long ago, but it never did. It's been on the books since the founding in the same way that the, as you say, the Bill of Rights has been on the books since the founding. So, you know, I don't think you're ever going to see a world where they find it unconstitutional. But I think the thing there is something to understand here, the Supreme Court hasn't really ruled much on the Alien Enemies act other than what they did in overturning James Boasberg in that ruling where they said James Boasberg in D.C. had no jurisdiction. They said that there does need to be notice, individualized notice to the people who are about to be removed pursuant to the Alien Enemies act, and they need to have a sufficient amount of time to file a habeas corpus claim. That's the extent of what the Supreme Court has said about the Alien Enemies Act. They haven't said anything about, you know, overturning the president's finding that there is an invasion or predatory incursion. And I don't think they will. I think that, I think this district court judge that thought she had the right to do that is going to find herself reversed very quickly. I don't even know that it'll get it to the Supreme Court. I think she'll just get reversed by the 10th Circuit.
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Jack Posobic
Well, this is interesting.
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Will Chamberlain
So.
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Jack Posobic
And that's what I want to get into. We'll be right back. We've got a break coming up. We're on with Will Chamberlain, Senior council, the Article 3 project. Where do the president's powers extend when it comes to deporting illegal aliens and members of organizations like Trend Iraq? We'll be right back. Jack Posobic, Human Events.
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Charlie Kirk
Today. You know, they talk about influence, influencers. These are influencers and they're friends of mine. Jack. So big. Where's Jack? He's got a great job.
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Jack Posobic
All right, Jack Posoba, Here we are back live, Washington, D.C. human Events. We're on with Will Chamberlain, the senior counsel of the Article 3 project. He's walking us through this highly controversial and obviously high profile Supreme Court case, as well as a number of cases involving the deportation of illegal Aliens. So will walk us through what the next steps are for the Trump administration as pertains to the Alien Enemies Act. And really, when it comes down to it, we got to get these people out of the country. And I think people just want to see the faucet turned back on, back on. I want to see the planes taking off of the runways. I need more C130s going up. I need them every day.
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Will Chamberlain
Yeah. So I expect this administrative say will get lifted by the Supreme Court by the end of the week, if not early next week. Administrative stays are by their nature temporary. They're not based on any decision on the merits. So they, they're, they're to give the court time to think for a second. That's the basic way to think about them, to prevent, before the status quo changes. So I think that'll get lifted. The DOJ will have to appeal this district court holding about the Alien Enemies act being not properly invoked or, you know, the, to the invocation being invalid. So that has to go through appeal. That has to get stay. The injunction against the administration will have to get stayed itself. So there's just, there's, there's a few things that have to happen if, you know, the court is going to, if the Trump administration is going to get these Alien Enemies act deportations to continue. The, the sort of interesting thing is it really depends on what kind of hangups, you know, the Supreme Court and these other courts put on the Alien Enemies act could mean that it's no longer the most efficient way to get people out of the country. Because depending on what kind of individualized determinations are required and how much notice is required, it might just be more efficient to remove them based on the fact that they're simply illegal immigrants and go through the normal removal process.
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Jack Posobic
So rather than create this separate process to fast track it, it would still, it would create like a double, the double the overhead basically, in terms of administrative. So might as well just leave them on the same track anyway, which they're already speeding up. I mean, look, you know, I said this before. You know, I was kind of cracking a joke about it, but back when we, when, when we were at the Eagles games in, in last year and we got sent to Eagles jail, you know, they, they used to have so many fights at the Eagles stadium that they would just have a magistrate that was basically there at the stadium to, you know, adjudicate all of these things that would go on. I said, look, just, just have them go out in Poland does this. By the way, what Poland does to get around some of this stuff. Not to get around it, but just from a practical matter. They'll have a magistrate judge go out with border patrol so that when they catch somebody, they can actually have the hearing right there. Here's your hearing, here's your due process. You have, you know, you're making a claim, okay, you have no way to back that up and off you go. And, you know, it's, it's something like that. So I, I'm. There are very creative ways that we can all get with this and there are lots of best practices. Oh, I see. They're showing the picture of me and my brother in equals jail yet again. We were not arraigned. We're not arraigned. We were, we were, we were able to free, to walk free of our own recognizance. The other people, of course, ended up in the hospital. But Will, I mean, do you think there are perhaps creative measures that could be employed here?
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Will Chamberlain
Yeah, I mean, I think it's as simple as you have to realize that due process does not mean the same thing in all circumstances and that the, you know, non citizens are not entitled to. If you're saying a non citizen is entitled to due process doesn't mean they're suddenly entitled to a full trial and proof beyond a reasonable doubt. No, no, no, no. You're an illegal alien. There's a great Law View article on this by a former judge Henry Friendly, who said you're entitled to some kind of hearing. And what that looks like can be very, very truncated and very, very limited. And I wouldn't be surprised to see that basically a kind of new process formed where we should actually spend a lot more money on immigration judges, get more immigration judges, more immigration courts going, and more efficient processes where, you know, you get your five minute hearing, where, you know, the judge looks at you is like, did you cross illegally? Yes. Do you have any legal right to stay in the United States? No. Get on the plane. Like really keep it that simple.
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Jack Posobic
That's what I'm saying. That's exactly what I'm saying. If you want the due process, I'm fine with that. I was on Piers Morgan last week and I kind of broached the same thing. I said, look, I'm all for people doing the due process, but at the same time, there are millions of people that were led into this country by the previous administration. That's the context. That's what the president was elected to do, to remove illegals from the country. So we're putting we're going to find a process to be able to put this together, but that doesn't mean it's not going to happen. Last, last minute to you, Will Chamberlain.
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Will Chamberlain
Yeah, I mean, I think in general, the, it's really unfortunate that the Supreme Court is kind of taking the lead of the mainstream media here and finding a way to like protect illegal aliens when they won't, you know, and reaching so aggressively to protect them when they, especially when they just let the J6 people like languish in jail for years. And finally three years into their imprisonment was like, oh, yeah, this primary charge they were convicted of, not legal. They shouldn't have been convicted of it. The Supreme Court needs to really get a handle on the idea that their legitimacy is at stake here. You know, President Trump was elected to deport to engage in mass deportation. If they're going to thwart it, then it really gives a question of like, exactly who do they think they are really?
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Jack Posobic
Stop playing politics at the Supreme Court. I think that's something we can probably all agree with. Jack Posobic, you're listening and watching Human Events. We'll be right back.
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Charlie Kirk
Today, you know, they talk about influencers. These are influencers and they're friends of mine. Jack, where's Jack? Jack who's got a great job.
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Jack Posobic
All right, Jack Boic, we are back here. Human Events want to also, of course, bring in the Charlie Kirk third hour audience on the Salem Radio Network. Folks, listen up because if you're still drinking that corporate watered down nonsense you call coffee, it's time for a serious wake up call. Blackout coffee isn't just coffee. It's a statement, a declaration that you are done with weak beans and weak values. This is high octane American roasted fuel for those who grind harder, stand taller and never back down. Look, I love this blackout coffee. It's so good. Kept me going all during Lent when I didn't have any energy drinks. They've also got the cold brew that you're going to love as well. Blackout coffee isn't playing games. They're cranking out more bags than ever, shipping faster than ever, and keeping you locked in with that coffee that actually fires you up. Whether you're chasing big goals or crushing the daily grind or just refusing to drink coffee made by people that hate you. Blackout coffee, it's got your back. So stop settling. Go to blackout coffee.com poso and use promo code POSO for 20% off your first order. You can go in and brew like a patriot through blackout. That's blackout coffee.com poso blackout coffee.com post what to bring in. Now Mike Benz, the executive director of the foundation for Freedom Online. You know, Ben's we all know Benz because we've been talking and seeing a lot of of huge information about the State Department. Huge reorg going on there, obviously with Secretary Rubio. Mike Benz had a huge interview with him as well. Massive congrats on that. But Ben's I want to also talk about the ODNI office of the Director of National Intelligence because Director Gabbard has set up this new directors initiatives group, the dig. You know, sort of the kind of a play on Doge, but different in the sense that they're not just looking at things to cut, they are also looking at things to declassify or possibly make more transparent than we've seen in the past. And certainly we know about the assassinations, we know about MLK and RFK and jfk. All of this is coming forward. But Ben, I wanted to get your thoughts as well on these particular rabbit holes that within the intel community that the DIG can perhaps take a look at if you had a wish list.
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Mike Benz
Well, I would start with an organizing framework around what I've been calling the, the undeclared second Cold War against populism. I think this actually is a, is a door that will open a thousand other doors. This is a massive undertaking to declassify intelligence documents. I can't really think of something with this broad and sprawling a mandate as what Director Gabbard has been given. If you look at the press release for the announcement, it was almost 20 executive orders or something to that effect. This is pursuant to most significantly weaponization against Americans. And then secondarily on that list I saw was enforcing the Free Speech Executive Order that President Trump signed on day one. And both of these things I think come to a head in, in what I believe has been a cold war that we've been in but not known that we've been in. And by we, I mean the American people, we knew. We, the American people, our fathers and mothers and grandparents knew they were in a cold war with Russia. There was no secret that there was an intelligence community wide effort against left wing communism. I think the American people by and large have no clue that they have been in a, that their intelligence community has been involved in a worldwide effort against right wing populism. And so there has not been the historiography created from the record of the Cold War today for the past 10 years, really starting with Trump and Brexit in 2016. That have seen the CIA, the DOD, the State Department, USAID and then all their tentacles across the private sector, the media, the NGOs, the universities, the civil society organizations that are funded by the State Department, usaid, the intelligence community, in order to orchestrate this. And I think that if you simply run a keyword search, for example, for the word populism and populist or for all their little proxy terms like backsliding, democratic backsliding or illiberal, this is another one that they do. They say this is all done in the name of democracy promotion. And by, you know, the reason you have Republicans like the Liz Cheney, you know, Adam Kinzinger, Mitt Romney quotient that support going after illiberal democracies is it's sort of small l liberal and it's a reference to the liberal rules based international order. Because all this stuff, all these CIA operations, all the CIA connected ones through State and USAID are done in the name of democracy promotion. This was, this was our weapon during the Cold War against communism. It wasn't just that we were going to tear down communism, it was because communism was against democracy. And we've been following this Woodrow Wilsonian edict to make the world a safe place for democracy, which means that the world is a safe place for the State Department and US aid and the CIA to operate in as long as they can create a predicate that something is undemocratic or an illiberal democracy, or it's technically a democracy, but it's going through democrat backsliding. And so honestly, just a simple keyword to understand the word the world through that lens and to use that as a shaping framework for whatever area of weaponization you want to go, you want to go through first. I think it's very powerful. And for me the free speech aspect is paramount because it's one thing, you know, everyone knows we have a First Amendment here in the US that protects US citizens, but foreign citizens are not protected by the First Amendment, which means the CIA gets to play all sorts of games with the media, they get to play all sorts of games with censorship at the international level that they are not allowed to do at home. But if they work with those censorship organizations or they draw a line between a foreign country that they call an autocrat or illiberal and the US President, they can catch millions, tens of millions of Americans up in those crosshairs. We saw their little proxies, for example, do this in Brazil with the national democracy in a group called ifes, which is supposed to be involved in elections, openly saying that they were involved in the throttling of pro Bolsonaro content because of the international exchange of ideas between the Bolsonaro movement in Brazil and the Trump movement in the US So they would not be allowed to do that here at home. But by saying that there's a straight line you can draw between Trump and Trump supporters and our foreign enemies or adversaries or illiberal governments abroad, they can conflate those two, just like they did with Russiagate and catch up basically all of American media in the process. And I believe that's exactly what happened. You don't get joint unified effort between the State Department, USAID, the Pentagon and all of the connected NGOs without getting the CIA, because they are all doing the CIA activity of promoting democracy through control over the information sphere. I know, for example, because I published this. Can I just make one last point? Sorry, just. And then I'll turn back to you. I'm sorry. In December 2021, President Biden set up something called the Information Integrity Working Group out of the White house. It had 26 cooperating government agencies. Information Integrity is a censorship watchword that chops up information and news into low integrity and high integrity sources and then says we need to censor the low integrity ones. Well, everyone pro Trump is low integrity according to their definition. One of the 26 partnered agencies was the Central Intelligence Agency directly involved in that work. Every single file, for example, there on Information Integrity and on their targets in the populace space, could be unveiled by ODNI and all the other government agencies tasked with declassification.
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Jack Posobic
Well, and so I was just going to add something that it's going to be so surprising to you that actually bolsters what you're saying, but from perhaps an extremely unlikely source, because in a totally unrelated story that of course we're tracking, we had the death of Pope Francis here just two days ago, Easter Monday. Of course, people are asking, you know, who potentially could be the next Pope. And so Cardinal Robert Serra is someone that a lot of people, a lot of conservatives have been talking about. And so I was sort of skimming his book, the Day Is Now Far Spent, which came out in 2019. And he talks about what he calls the two sicknesses of our era, and he uses different names for it. And then suddenly I realized, wait a minute, he's talking about globalism. And he says that there is a new system that is spreading throughout the West, a godless atheistic system that operates under the guise of progress, human rights or humanitarian Aid, but ultimately erodes customs, traditions and sovereignty. The west is now seeking to impose this secular, materialistic worldview that undermines faith and communal bonds. And, you know, he specifically talks about African countries, but he also talks about European countries as well. He talks about the effect of migration on this and how it also weakens those bonds as well. Sitting back, I was like, looking at it, I'm like, wait a minute. This is a Catholic, a Roman Catholic cardinal from Africa. And he's saying the same stuff that Mike Ben says every day.
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Mike Benz
Well, that's, that's incredible. As you were saying that I have burned in my, my brain a video that set me off on, on a side quest about Brazil many, many years ago. This is June 2019. The Atlanta Council organized a panel that they called Election Watch. And everyone can look this up. It's still on YouTube and I can post the full source video on X. But this was about six months after Bolsonaro took office in Brazil. And the Atlanta Council, with seven CIA directors on its board and annual funding from the Pentagon, the State Department and usaid, they held this panel about what went wrong. How did we, how did we fail to stop Bolsonaro from winning? And what they say in the panel is that in Brazil, local customs and local trust has been more dominant than trust in institutions. And of course that just means USAID funded NGOs and, you know, people down with the Blob. But, but they category, they contextualize this as a problem that they had to overcome through censorship of WhatsApp and Telegram in Brazil to stop people from listening to their local clergy, to stop people from listening to their friends and family so that they would be Clockwork Oranged with blob propaganda.
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Jack Posobic
Wow.
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Mike Benz
Because in Brazil they literally use that phrase that local customs and local trust and local bonds were, were a thicker glue than people trusting the experts.
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Jack Posobic
And they said this was institutional problem, by the way. And we wrote this whole book. We got a quick break. We're coming up. Wrote an entire book about this last year. How historically speaking, the first targets of every communist revolutionary regime, especially in South America, were always the priests. The local priests. The clergy. So they're on to something. And I think we're on to them. Jack Posobic, Mike Benz, Human Events. We will be right back.
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Charlie Kirk
Jack is a great guy. He's written a fantastic book. Everybody's talking about it. Go get it. And he spit my right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event. And we're going to turn it around and make our country great again. Amen I think that Iran has a chance to have a great country and to live happily without death. And I'd like to see that. That's my first option. If there's a second option, I think it would be very bad for Iran. And I think Iran is wanting to talk. I hope they're wanting to talk. It's going to be very good for them if they do. And I'd like to see Iran be thrive in the future, do fantastically well. I know the Iranian people. They're incredible people, always have been. Very smart, very energetic, very successful people. And I don't want to do anything that's going to hurt anybody. I really don't. But Iran can't have a nuclear weapon. And it's, you know, pretty simple. It's really simple. We're not looking to take their industry. We're not looking to take their land. We're not. All we're saying is you can't have a nuclear weapon.
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Jack Posobic
All right, this is Jack Posobic. We are back on with Mike Benz of the foundation of Freedom Online. We're talking about the declassification program that DNI Gabbard has put together at the odni. And Ben, you were talking a little bit about specifically the issue of Brazil and the intelligence operations that have gone on down their vis a vis specifics on their political process. I mean, I would even take that and expand it out. Look at all of the regime change operations that have gone on across the Middle east, across Eastern Europe, the color revolutions that have gone on writ large. And then, yes, also, by the way, the direct operations that have gone on to affect public opinion and affect elections, even within our own allies, even, dare I say it, our own NATO allies, which we know that the intelligence community has been involved going back to Obama, you know, wiretapping Merkel's cell phone that we all know about, and some of the disclosures that came out of there. I think there is a massive treasure trove of information that could come out. And this really could be a sort of a sort of Church Committee 2.0 Type of situation where you actually have people from the intel community for the first time. It's been 50 years, by the way, since the church committee. So have them come forward and say, look, this is what your intel community has actually been done. And let's be serious, Trump would not be back in office the way he is right now if it wasn't for the excesses of the intel community and the things that were done by the national security state to President Trump and Trump supporters that completely turned off Americans. There is so much here and I think we're only just scratching the surface so far.
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Mike Benz
That's right. And I think that the Trump administration could even offer immunity or even financial rewards for successfully whistleblowing on abuses from the intelligence state. And you mentioned expanding it across all of NATO. I'm particularly troubled by several NATO countries where it's very obvious that, that the CIA has put a classified hand on, on local elections. And those include in my view, Poland, Romania, France, among several others. But I'll stick with those for right now. The then as I, as I published and said this on the Joe Rogan show, the National Endowment for Democracy, which was conceived of by the CIA first in William Casey's office in 1983 and is a constant CIA companion star put out a paper telling Donald Tusk to arrest every significant member of the PIs party in Poland in order to, quote, stamp out populism and ensure that it can't return in the next election. And gave a list of a dozen people from the party saying that they must be arrested by the the court system there. They have to find crimes. They even said that the leader of the Law and Justice Party should be arrested, but we can't think of a crime yet. But you know, sort of suggested get creative. I mean this is coming from the CIA effectively to the criminal courts to arrest the people in the PIs party which is underway. We saw Kalyn Georgescu in Romania arrested and then his first round election victory nullified. There's a major CIA interest as well as a NATO interest in Romania as a, as a effectively a battle station in the Black Sea against Crimea and against Russia. NATO's building the largest military base in all of Europe right there.
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Jack Posobic
And in fact, we just had a sit down interview with George Simeon who is currently the leading contender for the presidency here in here on Human Events Daily. We had him on last week when he visited Washington D.C. in studio and it was just incredible. We were there last year meeting him with Eucharist. We had no idea that we'd be in such a situation. Mike Benz, we've got about a minute left. I think all this is incredible. A new church Committee, a 2.0. It's time to air the dirty laundry of the intel communities. Not just the past decade, the current, the past 50 years. Everything that's gone on Mike. Where can people go to follow you and see and track everything that you have going on?
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Mike Benz
Follow me on X at Mike Ben Cyber also Foundation forfreedom online dot com. And what I just add is a closing statement here is, you know, places like odni, and I know the State Department has a similar effort underway at the Global Engagement center. And USAID is also looking in internal files. They don't need to sense make the whole thing let. You can simply have. I thought that the first iteration of the JFK files was tremendously successful. Even though there was no executive summary, it allowed a tremendous amount of information to come out by simply crowdsourcing it. All that need to happen is declassifying. And if, if it's, if it can be declassified, simply publish, publish it. You don't need to spend months since making it all Jeff.
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Jack Posobic
Just drop it all out and let the people have at it. Declassify, declassify, declassify. Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to layishore.