Jack Posobiec (2:23)

It'S true.

Unidentified Guest or Commentator (2:27)

As we move toward Labor Day, you have made a lot of dreams come true for a lot of people. But one of my longtime dreams was for the Right. To recapture Labor Day. And I've been talking about this for almost 20 years and writing about it that why are we ceding the day that we are celebrating the American worker to the Democrats? Because this is our day, perhaps of any day of the entire year. This is our day. America was founded and fought for by fishermen and farmers and workmen and et cetera. Genesis, the first book of the Bible, talks about the righteousness of work and the art of creation.

Jack Posobiec (3:10)

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's special White House edition of Human Events Daily. That's right. Today we're doing a White House House special. Not just doing the show from here on the grounds of the White House, but we're going to tell you about that. We are going to be speaking to top members of the administration, including the director of ice. So we're really going to be digging into what the administration is doing, how the administration is prosecuting the many problems facing our country and what progress is being made on a number of fronts, whether it be national security, whether it be immigration, whether it be the domestic front with economy, whether it be, we have got it all here in this White House special. And you can see we're actually standing, I am physically standing on the White House lawn itself. This is the south lawn of the White House. And directly behind me, by the way, you can actually see the area. This is where the White House new ballroom is going to be. Now, I'm not sure exactly how far out it will extend, but it's this area basically roped off here. And in fact, you can see some of the work that's down on the ground of that area that could be work already. The very early stages of laying out the floor plan of President Trump's White House ballroom. Also right above me here. Can you see this in the shot? Can they see this, this flag, this beautiful flag that we have in the shot? This flag is absolutely enormous. This is brand new. President Trump just put it here. There's another one. It's. It's twin sister on the front lawn, the north lawn of the White House. And it's amazing to me that this is something that didn't exist before. Can you believe that we didn't have a massive, beautiful Old Glory and a pair of them here at the White House? And so, just to give you a little bit of the lay of the land, we've got the portico of the White House here. This is the balcony that's just above. And then directly behind, where I'm basically looking directly at that, is the oval Office. So we are just steps away right here from President Trump's Oval Office, the room where it all happens, the room where it all goes down, where the decisions are being made to make America great again. Now, through the course of this episode, you're going to hear a little bit of construction, you're going to hear a little bit of renovation, because as we know, President Trump is doing a lot of work to restore this White House. He is doing a lot of work to even add to this White House. So I'm being told right now that this lawn is, is currently being worked on because they're adding in a drainage system, something that was not done before. Also, they added a patio area to the Rose Garden, a place where it had been very muddy, it had been very soggy. It was a place where they're trying to hold events, they're trying to bring in dignitaries, world leaders, diplomats, and there are people getting their stiletto high heels and their leather shoes stuck in the mud. So that's something that President Trump is very cognizant of. Of course, ever the host, ever the builder. So this is a working White House, both inside and out. So you're going to hear some of that as we go. You're, it's going to be trucks going around, you're going to hear hammers being swung, you're going to hear nails being pounded, you're going to hear dirt being torn up. And that's all being done to make the White House even better. Because if you look at what's happening to Washington, D.C. all around us, that's exactly what President Trump is doing. He's putting the best aesthetics first, the best image first. That's why he's reducing crime. That's why Stephen Miller is going after the graffiti. That's why they're putting more National Guardsmen out on the city streets. Why? To keep our nation's capital clean, beautiful and pristine. And that's exactly what it should be, a shining city as an example to the world of the best America has. And when the world comes to the capital of our great nation, they should see one of the greatest capital cities on the face of the earth. In fact, it is a reflection of our country. Just like our beautiful flag, which we should protect from burning at all costs, is a reflection of the people of this nation. We'll be right back. Jack Posobic, the Human Events White House special.

Unidentified Guest or Commentator (7:25)

Stand in our way. And our golden age has just begun.

Jack Posobiec (7:29)

This is Human Events with Jack Posoba. Now it's time for everyone to Understand what America first truly means. Welcome to the second American Revolution. All right, Jack Posobic here, Human Events Daily. We're here on the south lawn of the White House. Very honored to be, I would say sitting down, but we're standing.

Co-host or Producer (7:52)

So.

Jack Posobiec (7:52)

So we're meeting with the. The Director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, ice, Todd Lyons. Todd, thank you so much for being here.

Todd Lyons (7:59)

No, thank you. I really appreciate the invite and, you know, having the opportunity to speak on the great work men and women of ICE are doing.

Jack Posobiec (8:05)

Well, look, I mean, it goes without saying that, but on behalf of the Human Events audience, the real, real America's.

Co-host or Producer (8:11)

Voice network, we just want to say.

Jack Posobiec (8:12)

Thank you to the men and women of ice. I've done some work going around, see some of the border stations with Secretary Noem since she's come in. Certainly when, if there's ever anything we can do to help give you guys more coverage than. This is a mission that our audience is behind 100%.

Todd Lyons (8:28)

No. And that's great. We do feel the support. I'm very proud of the fact that ICE is doing great work in the community, despite a lot of the rhetoric you hear coming at the mission we're doing right now. But we're dedicated to our law enforcement mission. Under this administration, under Secretary Noem, under President Trump, we're allowed to do our law enforcement mission again. And that's what I want the American people to see. I want them to see what the men and women of ICE go out every day and bravely do, getting the worst of the worst out of our neighborhoods.

Jack Posobiec (8:57)

And this is something that's so clear because the neighborhoods that you go into, we keep hearing this narrative from the media that ICE is intimidating these neighborhoods or that ICE is somehow creating problems in the community. They like the syrup stories like this Kilmar Garcia story. Yet at the same time, the people that you're getting rid of, they're the ones causing problems in those communities because they are the ones. Time and time again, whenever we see these raptures sheets, we see what they have been doing, and we see that many times, you guys already have the derogatory information. You know, what these guys have been up to. And you're liberating those communities. You're making those communities safer for the families, the children, the moms and dads, the older people who live there, you.

Todd Lyons (9:39)

Know, and it's not even US Citizens that these criminal aliens go back and prey upon. The whole narrative of sanctuary jurisdictions makes it unsafe for the migrant community as well, because there's this fear that if you call 91 1, if you report a crime, you're going to be deported. That's not the case. And when these sanctuary jurisdictions release these criminal aliens, these people that they already found to be a danger, that they vote arrested and locked up, when they don't work with ice, we have to send more agents into the community. We would love to go to a police station, a local jail, one or two agents, and take custody of criminal aliens and get them out of the country. But instead, sanctuary jurisdictions allow these criminal aliens to these predators to go back out and commit more crime. And that's what ICE is dedicated to. We're not going to allow these criminal aliens, these known suspected terrorists, or these gang members go out and hurt another American citizen or anyone here in the country.

Jack Posobiec (10:34)

Well, I mean, I can speak from experience in my hometown, Narsam, Pennsylvania became essentially a sanctuary city. Started all the way back in the 2000s. And I've seen, I've seen how it destroys communities. It absolutely guts them. People who are in good families, they want to get out because, and you know, you don't want, who wants their kids around. And it just, it brings an element that is criminal. And then unfortunately, you've got people, they might be in poverty for various reasons, and now they're stuck there. Now that criminal element is preying upon those people that are in poverty. And you just got this downward spiral. And you see this happen in sanctuary city after sanctuary city when it, when it comes to those situations. And let's, let's talk about sanctuary cities, for example, that, do you find that it's more the police, do they want to help ice or is it the politicians that are coming in and just putting the block?

Todd Lyons (11:25)

No, the local law enforcement wants to help ice.

Kevin Hassett (11:27)

Right.

Todd Lyons (11:28)

But it's, you know, what's very disheartening for us is when local elected officials put fear into another law enforcement agency of discipline or termination for working with another federal agency. For us, it's hard for us to even comprehend when an elected official wants to go to bat or try to defend an MSD gang member, a child predator rapist. Why would that person want to be in the community? I don't know how that fits into anyone's political narrative because it's not a politics issue. It's a public safety issue. And that's the biggest concern for us.

Jack Posobiec (12:01)

I couldn't agree more. And you certainly see the twisting of politics as it gets involved and they try to pretend that these, these, these animals, these predators are somehow, you know, they always have the narrative, they just want to work, they just want to be here to help. And then you find out what they've done and suddenly it comes out every single time this has done, you know, horrific, horrific, preying upon others, even the, even the labor trafficking and others. Talk to me a little bit about that though. And you've talked about how local politicians put fear into the local police officers. But at the same time you're also seeing the targeting of ICE officers and people will say, oh well, why are they going out in the masks? And it's. I've said this on the show here. Well, that's because of doxing. That's because that people have been going on social media and looking up the information using facial recognition software that's out there to be able to track these agents. How is the agent community felt in the face of all of this?

Todd Lyons (12:56)

You know, the best thing about ICE is we're a resilient group. There's some brave men and women, like I said earlier, that are very proud to do their job again, but unfortunately they have to think of their families. You look to why you see ICE agents masks. Now, if you look at the last administration or even the first two months, January, February, this administration, you didn't see ICE officers wearing masks, but instead we've seen an uptick of violence. We're over 1000% increase the last year of violence and assault on ice ages. But take the agent out of the equation. You have some personnel say, well, that comes with being in law enforcement. Your family being threatened, your kid's Instagram being posted somewhere, or you're, you know, you have elected officials calling for no rest for ICE agents or their families. That is what's wrong. It's the fiery rhetoric that are putting ICE agents and their families in the line of fire. And I know because I speak from experience, under the last administration, I was docs, I had antifa show up at my house at 3 o' clock in the morning. No law enforcement agent doing their job needs that. And that's what needs to stop.

Jack Posobiec (13:54)

Well, it's very simple. And then that we shouldn't ever involve families in this. And sure, when it comes to this type of enforcement, you would expect that from, I don't know, the narco cartels. You would expect that from if someone's a member of some terrorist cell that's operating inside the United States. But you wouldn't expect that from fellow citizens.

Todd Lyons (14:12)

No. And you know what's frustrating too is I think a lot of this, a lot of people don't educate themselves. Whether an elected official or there's someone that doesn't agree with the ICE mission, more than 70% of the people we arrest have some type of criminal charge, whether pending or convicted, but that's just not the case. These people may have be wanted from another country or have a significant criminal history that they're fleeing from from their home country. So when ICE is being painted as we're going out and just rounding up a worker or rounding up people trying to make a better life, people just don't educate themselves on that person. And what ICE is actually doing to make America safe again?

Jack Posobiec (14:47)

Well, in many of these cases, I would like to ask, because there's something that I've noticed as well, that it seems as though that because some of the raids that have been done, and obviously I understand you can't get into too much operational, so I'll speak vaguely here, but it seems as though immigration fraud is something that's being cracked down on a little bit harder now. Do I have that right?

Todd Lyons (15:07)

It is. You know, under President Trump and this administration, we've opened up the full immigration portfolio. You know, we're no longer doing law enforcement by just an executive order or kind of skewing a law to make it fit one side, you know, one side of the aisle. What we're doing is we're focused on everything. And, you know, immigration, you know, enforcement, it might not be a criminal act, but there or a victimless act, but you have criminal aliens that are using U.S. citizens, Social Security numbers, tax fraud, boating fraud. And that's why we're cracking down, too, on a lot of these American businesses, because that's what I mean. These American businesses are making money off the backs and the sweat of these people. But they're also encouraging human trafficking, sex trafficking, forced labor. So we're holding those business owners accountable as well, because it's not just a victimless crime.

Jack Posobiec (15:57)

Well, and it's very simple to me that in so many of these cases, we understand that, look, if I were in a situation like that, I'd probably break into the United States to work illegally as well. If I was coming from one of these cases, I get that. But at the same time, if you've got someone who's exploiting that person who's in need now, you're creating that toxic, that toxic necessity, that toxic need for them to come in to say, oh, well, you've got to work for me. You might have a slave labor situation. You might have, you know, indentured servitude the new, call it modern slavery, these types of things. Because this is what ends up happening, that you're stuck, they've got no way to get out. And suddenly they're basically having to work for this business owner who, while living in who knows what kind of conditions, 100%.

Todd Lyons (16:41)

And when you think about that, too, that kind of goes in line with the sanctuary narrative because these business owners, you know, they frighten them, right? The narratives out there that if they report or they try to get away, then ICE is going to deport them, they're going to be worse off. But at the same time, a lot of these people are being exploited by the cartels and these foreign terrorist organizations that are feeding this pipeline, that are supporting American businesses just to make money. And that's where we have to hold everyone accountable.

Jack Posobiec (17:04)

Last, last question. I could. I could be here all day if you had to put a number on it, or does ICE have an official number? Total amount of illegals we think are in the country.

Todd Lyons (17:14)

You know, we don't. But what I will tell you is we are focused on the more than 1.8 million to have final orders of deportation in the countless hundreds that are being released 24 hours a day from sanctuary jurisdictions. When our detainers aren't honored and they go back to our community and we can't think of numbers, large term, we have to think of going out and making sure we find those immediate public safety threats so they don't hurt anyone.

Jack Posobiec (17:37)

Again, where can people go if they want to sign? If people are interested that want to join ICE, where can they go?

Todd Lyons (17:42)

You can go to join joinice.gov you go to all our social media platforms on Facebook, Instagram and X. We're looking for brave men and women that want to come out and have a great federal law enforcement career and be a part of a great agency.

Jack Posobiec (17:53)

Join.ice.gov thank you once again, again, and God bless to all the men and women out there.

Unidentified Guest or Commentator (18:07)

They talk about influencers. These are influencers and they're friends of mine. Jack, where's Jack? Jack. He's done a great job.

Jack Posobiec (18:22)

White House with Ambassador Monica Crowley, who. Now, you guys remember those meetings that we got to be so honored to be a part of to cover live, going to Anchorage, meeting with the Russian delegation, then the very next work day on Monday, holding the multilateral meeting with all of the world leaders here, the largest meeting of world leaders, I believe, and I'm going to check on this that's ever been held here at the White House. We're here with the woman who put it all together and a great friend of the show, Ambassador Crowley. How are you?

Ambassador Monica Crowley (18:54)

Hey, Jack. Great to be with you. Thank you for having me.

Jack Posobiec (18:57)

How did you do this? How did you put. So President Trump comes in and says he wants, I want to meet with the Russians, then I want to meet with everybody on Monday. And it falls to you. What is that like?

Ambassador Monica Crowley (19:06)

Well, first of all, it was great to see you on Air Force One going to Alaska for the President's meeting with President Putin, and it was a very productive day. Then we left Alaska, and we're on Air Force One coming back home. There are people starting to fall asleep in the cabin, but not our President Trump, who, of course, has superhuman energy and superhuman strength. So he was making calls the entire flight back to Washington, D.C. and at about 2:00am Eastern Time, we hear from the National Security Council that we will have President Zelensky arriving to the White House to meet with President Trump on Monday at 1pm so immediately, we knew that we were going to have about 36 hours to put together that bilateral meeting here at the White House. Okay, so, but, Jack, then we were told it wasn't just President Zelensky.

Jack Posobiec (19:55)

Right? So. So he's on the phone and he's wheeling and dealing, and he's on the nat with the NATO leaders. He's on with Zelensky. And he said, all right, let's get Zelensky in the room. And then you get another phone call, and they say he's not coming by himself.

Ambassador Monica Crowley (20:09)

He is not coming by himself. So we had a grand total of eight world leaders, including six heads of state or heads of government, and two additional leaders for the European Commission and NATO. So we were bringing in eight total within the space of 36 hours. And of course, we want all of these meetings to be run properly and right, because my job is chief of protocol, and I've got an extraordinary team team working with me. They are just the best in the business. We want to make sure that we are creating the optimal environment for the most robust, effective diplomacy for both sides. So we make sure that the incoming world leaders have what they need in terms of access and resources and comforts of home. And then, of course, we make sure that the President of the United States has what he needs so that these events are being run properly, they're run well, they're run professionally so that they can conduct the optimal diplomacy for the United States.

Jack Posobiec (21:10)

Well, I mean, I have to say, I was. I was shocked to see it. I said, I can't believe this is a government operation, because I've never seen the government do something so quickly and so efficiently and do it so without a hitch. Just without a hitch. When it came in terms of the productions and the way it was done, people arrived on time. People, honestly, even. Even in Anchorage, we left a little bit early and people were saying it was upset. So they're just done. As I kept saying, it's immediate. I think they're just done.

Ambassador Monica Crowley (21:36)

Well, you know, Jack, we're in the government, but we are not the government. So President Trump is a private sector businessman, hugely successful, of course, and he has brought in so many people who've spent their entire lives and careers in the private sector. This is what we do. So when we found out we had 36 hours to put all of this together for the Zelensky meeting with the European leaders, we hopped to it. We didn't sleep, and we got it done. And we ended up creating an environment for a day of very productive talks.

Jack Posobiec (22:05)

You know, there was something that you mentioned just there about, you know, and, you know, I caught wind of it as well. I was on the plane and I hear about this 2:00am business, and we're holding because he's still on the phone. And now I realize what it was. He's putting the meeting together for Monday. So there was something he said in the meeting, and that struck me with what you said as well, where they were talking about the way the government works. And this is kind of what we're talking about, the speed of government versus the speed of business, the speed of the private sector. And where President Trump, I think it was Keir Starmer, it may have been one of the readouts said, oh, let's set a date for the next round of meetings to be in a month from now. And President Trump says, a month? No, let's do it as soon as possible, because there's so much killing that's going on.

Co-host or Producer (22:46)

This is a war.

Jack Posobiec (22:47)

We're trying to stop that. Is that really what's driving the president when it comes to all of the scheduling, the urgency, the quickness that we see here?

Ambassador Monica Crowley (22:54)

Yes. I mean, first of all, President Trump is a man of immediacy and urgency anyway. He doesn't believe in burning daylight, as our good friend Steve Bannon often says. Right. He doesn't believe that. He realizes that he has X number of days in this presidency, in this term, to save America and make peace. He's also genuinely a man of peace. Of course, President Trump is driven by strategic imperatives for America's national interest. But what drives him even more so is the desire for peace and to stop conflicts and stop killing and the eradication of innocent life around the world. That's why he's been so successful in bringing together parties that have been at war for decades. So when he said, no, we're going to make this call to President Putin tonight, and we're going to make this happen today or tomorrow or in the next day or so, not in the next month, he literally made the point, Jack, that in the Russia, Ukraine conflict, we are losing, or they are losing between three and five thousand soldiers on both sides per week. And he said, that is totally unacceptable. If you let it go a longer period of time, more innocent life is going to be lost, and we will not stand for that.

Jack Posobiec (24:06)

And I. And I want to just say to the audience for a second here that for people who understand, they say they had all these cynical ideas about the President, oh, he just wants money. Oh, he just wants this, he wants that. It's something where. Tell the audience, when it comes down to it, when the President really is in these private moments, what is it that's driving him?

Ambassador Monica Crowley (24:25)

Yeah, I mean, like I said, the strategic imperative for America's national interests, of course, it is America first. It's putting the American people first. And he has said with regard to these conflicts, in the vast majority of them, in the vast majority of them, the United States doesn't have a particular strategic dog in the fight, but he really believes in trying to make peace and leveraging the full power of the White House and the United States of America to try to bring parties together to end unnecessary conflicts, try to save innocent life.

Jack Posobiec (24:59)

Well, and there's also. When you talk about the strategic imperative, there is a strategy, though. There's been a phrase that we've used on Human Events. We've used it on the War Room, and that's called the reverse Nixon. Who was it that came up with that again?

Ambassador Monica Crowley (25:11)

That would be me. Jack Fosovic. Yes.

Jack Posobiec (25:14)

Ambassador Monica Crowley, thank you so much for spending time with us here on Human Events Daily.

Ambassador Monica Crowley (25:19)

Thank you so much, Jack. Pleasure.

Co-host or Producer (25:20)

Thank you. God bless.

Unidentified Guest or Commentator (25:37)

Where is Jack? Where's Jack? Where is he? Jack, I want to see you. Great job, Jack. Thank you. What a job you do. You know, we have an incredible thing. We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys, and these are the guys who've been getting policies.

Jack Posobiec (25:58)

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John Ratcliffe (27:22)

Mr. President, all of us are charged with being good stewards of taxpayer dollars. I've gone through a reorganization for ODNI that we've announced in the last week. We've cut nearly half of redundant, unnecessary functions within ODNI, saving taxpayers over $700 million a year. We will continue focusing on our core mission in keeping the American people safe and appreciate your leadership and your focus on this most critical task.

Unidentified Guest or Commentator (27:52)

And you've also found many bags of information. I think they call them burn bags. They're supposed to be burned and they didn't get burned. Having to do with how corrupt the 2020 election was. And when will that all come out?

John Ratcliffe (28:08)

Mr. President, I will be the first to brief you once we have that information collected. But you're right, it's.

Jack Posobiec (28:14)

It's.

John Ratcliffe (28:14)

We are finding documents literally tucked away in the back of safes and random offices in these bags. And in other words, areas which again, speaks to the intent of those who are trying to hide the truth from the American people.

Unidentified Guest or Commentator (28:28)

Great job. Thank you. We look forward to hearing it. The public looks forward. Thank you very much.

Jack Posobiec (28:34)

And we're back here.

Co-host or Producer (28:35)

Human events daily on this White House special. And I just had to take a minute to discuss this. So what DNI Gabbard is saying right there, and, you know, we're working to follow up with the DNI's office on more information regarding what exactly was found in these burn bags regarding the 2020 election. So burn bag existence being in there is very interesting.

Jack Posobiec (29:00)

That indicates that. So here's how burn bags work.

Co-host or Producer (29:03)

And I worked in the intelligence community, and we use burn bags every day. So a burn bag meant why they call them burn bags. So when you print out classified material, you then put it in a burn bag, which is a literal bag that is marked with the type of classification.

Jack Posobiec (29:20)

It'S in, or at least, you know.

Co-host or Producer (29:22)

Up to a certain level. And that bag is then taken by the Agency and destroyed so that whatever's in there is also incinerated. And so the idea is that this happens on a routine basis, so say, once a week or something like that. So when the burn bags are there, they're only there for a little bit. What does this mean? This means either these burn bags were taken off the floor and put in a different area so people. No one, you know, would see what was in there. Or it could have been that these burn bags were put there just as the transition from one administration to the other, the last Biden administration, and now into the Trump administration, were taking place, so that they were not able to basically burn them, destroy this evidence prior to the new admin getting in.

Jack Posobiec (30:12)

So, yes.

Co-host or Producer (30:13)

Does this look like they were attempting to destroy evidence? It absolutely does. And I would hope that they're going back in and whatever these documents were, that they're going back into, whatever system they're on, Whether this was SIGINT or, I'm saying, I'm guessing more than likely it was SIGINT or some kind of docx system where they go in and pull the files, pull the file numbers, and check to see if those files still exist on the electronic system as well on the digital side. Because if you're pulling things out of something that was on NSA Net or something else like that, who knows what type of potential laws you have now run afoul of if you were actually getting rid of evidence on government servers. So not. Not to mention mishandling and all the other issues there.

Jack Posobiec (31:02)

Look, what.

Co-host or Producer (31:02)

What DNI Gabbard has been doing over at the Directorate of National Intelligence, it's nothing short of astounding. This is the very first time that we've seen someone use the power of the DNI the way that it is statutorily approved of. What does that mean? So legally speaking, the DNI has the ability to declassify any documents from all across the intel community. The difference being that the other DNIs prior to her have deferred to the home agency. So defer to CIA, defer to FBI, deferred to nsa, whichever it was, and say, okay, well, if you don't want us to release that, we won't release that. If you don't release these emails, we won't release these emails. She's done the opposite. What, what DNI Gabbard has done is actually go in and declassify everything. She's declassified emails, she's declassified the ica, she's declassified the workflow in many of these cases that directly implicates Brennan, Clapper and Comey. Why did nobody else do this? The emails have been sitting right there on government servers this entire time. Now we know why. It wasn't done in the Biden regime, certainly. But we also know that that means that every time the Republican Congress was digging into this, that they were being lied to, that they were being lied, that these emails didn't exist, that they were being lied to, that this evidence didn't exist.

Jack Posobiec (32:23)

They knew.

Co-host or Producer (32:24)

They knew it was on these servers the entire time. And what did they do? They sat on it, they hid it, they put it in burn bags and they lied. They lied to officials. And if any of them, by the way, did so under oath, then that's something that we call perjury. And perjury, ladies and gentlemen, is a crime. And it is a crime with a statute of limitations that is still active. So we'll see. We will absolutely see. And in fact, all of these individuals should be brought before Congress and should be asked yet again about their emails. Why? Let's get them on the record, let's get them under oath. Let's see what exactly was going on. Now this, this all speaks to these grand juries that have been empaneled, we're told, and we've reported here on Human Events Daily. We've also heard other reporting from John Solomon over at just the news hearing that potentially these grand juries could be in Florida. This gets around the issue of just.

Jack Posobiec (33:25)

Look what happened this week in Washington.

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D.C. grand jury nullification is something that the D.C. jury pool is doing. And what have I said before about the DC jury pool? The issue with the DC jury pool is that you've got a 90 plus percent Democrat district, a blue district, and so they aren't going to convict anyone with a D next to their name. Meanwhile, if you have an R next to your name or you are related to anything in any way, Donald Trump, you're going to get convicted. The J6 cases had a 100% conviction rate. So what do you do? You've got to get the cases out of D.C. also, by the way, just recently, just this week, when they tried to indict the, they went to the grand jury and they said, look, we have a video of a DOJ employee who is attacking an ICE agent and attempting to interfere with them. They're assaulting them, they're throwing things at them. And that is, that is felony assault. The D.C. grand jury said we don't agree. So they put it out and they said, we're not going to file the indictment. Ladies and gentlemen, this is the fight that we're up against. This is chess, it's not checkers. And we need to be smart. And that's what DNI Gabbard is doing. She's smart. She's getting all of the evidence, collecting it, having the receipts at her fingertips. And the team over there is running like a well oiled machine. And that team understands that if we're ever going to win this thing, we've got to play the game smart and we need to play to win. And that's what Tulsi Gabbard has always done. She's always played to win, whether it be in Congress, whether it be in the military or elsewhere. Look, if our intelligence system is going to be corrupted when it gets to the deal makers, the decision makers, the policymakers, these intelligence documents, these reports, men get sent into battle, bombs get dropped, guns get fired on the basis of this intelligence. It must be sacrosanct. But that's not what we had. We had a system where people were making it up on the fly. And that is the system, ladies and gentlemen, that needs to change. I'll be right back here with more of the White House special on Human Events Daily. Do not click away. Don't you dare from real America's voice.

Jack Posobiec (36:03)

Jack is a great guy.

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He's written a fantastic book.

Jack Posobiec (36:06)

Everybody's talking about it.

Todd Lyons (36:07)

Go get it.

Unidentified Guest or Commentator (36:08)

And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event. And we're going to turn it around and make our country great again.

Jack Posobiec (36:16)

Amen. All right, folks, Human Events Daily. We're back here live on the the South Lawn of the White House. And we're very honored to have now on our show the director of the National Intel, National Intelligence, National Economic Council. We got the Director, National Intelligence. Later, folks. We'll have it wherever on later. National Economic Council. Kevin Hassan is here. Thank you so much for joining us.

Kevin Hassett (36:37)

Oh, it's great to be here. Thank you.

Jack Posobiec (36:38)

So I need to, you have to explain something to me. I'm very confused, obviously, because the media told me that by this point in President Trump's term that his policies would be destroying our stock market. Inflation would be through the roof. The price of eggs, the price of everything would be absolutely crazy. And that people would be basically priced out of house and home. Yet I'm looking around, the sky doesn't seem to have fallen yet. How is that possible?

Kevin Hassett (37:03)

Right. It's possible because President Trump was right all along that we could raise revenue with tariffs. And a lot of the cost of the tariff is going to be borne by the importers who are exporting stuff to the US and so if you think about it, China is maintaining political stability by giving jobs to people and dumping products into the US and they, if they were to cut back, then they would have people lose their jobs and then maybe have political instability. So they're bearing most of the tariff as we got big tariff revenues, but we don't see inflation at all. In fact, inflation has been decelerating. It's about half where it was, was about six months ago.

Jack Posobiec (37:41)

All right, so let's think about that. Inflation has now been cut in half since President Trump took office. Yet we were told that the tariffs themselves would be inflationary. What was wrong with the thinking of. I'm not going to use the word panic ins. I just did. But what was wrong with the logic of that? Right.

Kevin Hassett (37:58)

Well, the. I actually like to run through a simple example. Suppose that you're buying an apple for a dollar and then we put a 10 cent tax on it. Let's just say tax. Then when you go to the store, then something's going to happen to the price. If the price of the apple goes to $1.10, then you, the consumer, are going to have to pay the whole 10 cents. If the price is a dollar, then the business pays the whole 10 cents. And it could go somewhere in between, but it's got to be between a dollar and $1.10. And what happens is that if there's an inelastically supplied thing so that people just have to sell it, then like the apple spoil. If you don't sell it, then what happens is that the guy at the store ends up bearing the tax. And so if we've had a trade deficit, say with China forever and ever, then by definition their supply is inelastic. And so therefore they should be like the store example, they should bear a lot of the tariff.

Jack Posobiec (38:52)

That's a great way to put that. So I used to work briefly at the Shiny American Chamber of Commerce over there and spent a lot, two years total, living and working in China, studying a little bit as well. And it's very clear that this is entirely how their economy is set up. So when you talk about the jobs and the direct correlation between work and make, in many cases make work in China as well as instability, this is exactly right. This is what the CCP leaders, whether it's, even if it wasn't Xi Jinping, whichever, and perhaps will be there for the rest of our natural lives, you know, who knows? But you know, even, even prior to him though, when it was Hu Jintao, when it was others, the very first thing they wake up thinking of is, is my country unstable and will the loss of jobs lead to that instability? This, of course, was one of their biggest drivers in Covid because they had.

Co-host or Producer (39:38)

To reopen, they had to get back to work.

Jack Posobiec (39:41)

And it was one of the toughest, the, the toughest challenges that they were facing because there was a moment during COVID where the whole thing, the whole.

Co-host or Producer (39:49)

You know, the apple cart would have been turned over to use the, to.

Jack Posobiec (39:52)

Carry the analogy forward. But so that being said, if they're not exporting because their entire economy is centered around exports, if those exports aren't chugging out, then that their production down, if they're slashing production, that means those people are going to be eventually slashing jobs. That'll be the downstream effect. And guess what? The, the all the way downstream effect will be this instability. So it actually makes sense because we know that they've been playing these, these currency games already with the renminbi, with the Chinese yuan, that they have to keep the exports up no matter what they do.

Kevin Hassett (40:24)

And that's why we see that, you know, we're not seeing runaway inflation and we're raising maybe it looks like now we're going to have 3 trillion in tariff revenue over the next 10 years from these great tariffs.

Jack Posobiec (40:36)

I suppose you could say in a way you guys called their bluff.

Kevin Hassett (40:39)

Yeah, I guess what happened is President Trump had a strong belief, a lot of people disagreed with him, and then he acted on it because elections have consequences. And now here we are on our way to the golden age.

Jack Posobiec (40:52)

Well, and it's incredible to see and we've had members of treasury on as well, talking about how we're seeing this blue collar job boom, how we're seeing the capex numbers up. So that's when cap capital expenditures are going to be coming, going in. So people reinvesting in their businesses, people reinvesting in the United States. All of this is incredible. Got to ask you though, all of this, all of this new, you know, just in the last 12 hours, really, the, the Fed, the Fed governor putting pressure on Powell to slash rates. People would say, okay, when is it being cut? What is it being cut? Et cetera, et cetera. Tell our viewers, right, if, let's say you're someone who you know isn't involved in this, but you're a day to day person, what will lower interest rates mean for the average family?

Todd Lyons (41:34)

Right.

Kevin Hassett (41:34)

Well, if interest rates are lower, then that means that it'll be cheaper to buy a house, cheaper to buy a car, cheaper to buy anything that you would buy on layaway like a new washing machine. And it'll also reduce your credit card bills and have you basically just have more money in your pocket.

Jack Posobiec (41:52)

So the idea, and this is something by the way, because I don't know if you've heard about this, but Gen Z Charlie Kirk is a good friend, kind of put me onto this. And a lot of Gen Z guys are now doing this. They're buying everything on credit. You mentioned a couple appliances, they're, they're paying bills on credit there and they're using this, these short term loan options through apps to, to go on credit. I mean things like Doordash and things like Uber Eats and all of it, rent in some cases these are going on credit. And so you're really seeing this entire generation that's digging themselves deeper into credit. And I don't know if they're thinking about it in, in a way that, you know, money doesn't have to be like this. Money can be a way where you actually have productivity where the money that you're taking in will go up, not just, not just the money that you're borrowing.

Kevin Hassett (42:38)

Yeah, you got to watch out and not get too extended with your debt. But I think a lot of the things you're talking about are really the revolution in sort of digital finance. And that's something that's been a real positive and especially for younger folks.

Jack Posobiec (42:49)

Well, no, it certainly is interesting and there are ways, there are times where I wish that I could have bought some stuff that way, you know, when I was younger. But at the same time, you know, you do worry though that There are people that, as you say, get caught up a little bit too much. They get over their skis in. In debt, and they push out. So what is the administration when they're looking at, you know, and you see folks like, you know, and, you know, in certain. Certain areas, like New York City, people turning towards Amandani, people saying that, oh, my rent is too high, my rent is crazy. This price, that price, they're. They're out of there. How is the administration looking at those types of people?

Kevin Hassett (43:23)

Right. Well, I mean, socialism is a really bad idea. And when a government becomes socialist, then you end up with shortages. And so what would probably happen if he really did start having government, grocery stores is they'd all be empty because people would just go in and take everything out, and then the government will run out of money. And this is how the Soviet Union worked, and this is how New York City is going to work, too, if he is elected.

Jack Posobiec (43:48)

And you can see the pressure is building. But at the same time, these policies have been tried so many times, and every single time, it's failed. And in fact, that failure has led to knock on effects that have been ten times even worse. Just one minute left.

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Give your final message for our viewers.

Jack Posobiec (44:03)

And tell them where they can follow you.

Todd Lyons (44:04)

Right.

Kevin Hassett (44:05)

Well, you know, just follow me at the White House. I'm on the White House law virtually every day. And the bottom line is that as we head into Labor Day, that Just remember that President Trump's policies led to a $6,500 raise for the typical American family last time. And we've doubled down on those policies with a big, beautiful bill and are expecting that over the next few years will be another $10,000 raise for the typical American because of the policies that President Trump has pushed.

Jack Posobiec (44:30)

I love putting it that way. A $10,000 raise per family. Just. Kevin, do me a favor. Don't tell my wife that. So I don't want. Sweetheart, just this. This episode was. This was a fictional episode. We were.

Co-host or Producer (44:43)

I'll.

Jack Posobiec (44:44)

I'll make sure that when this airs, she's doing something else. Kevin, thank you so much. The director of the President's National National Economic Council.

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Be right back.