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IRAN’S FAILED RETALIATION: NeoCons Foaming At The Mouth For A New War In The Middle East
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Jack Posobic
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Matt Boyle
A commentator, international social media sensation and former Navy intelligence veteran, this is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobic. Christ is for the first time in US Military history, the US directly bombed Iranian nuclear facilities.
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Kristen
The strikes were a spectacular military success. Iran's key nuclear enrichment facilities have been completely and totally obliterated.
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Jack Posobic
Going into this attack, President Trump was very focused in his team on what would happen next and what he was saying. This had to be a one and done attack focused solely on those nuclear sites. He didn't want to get bogged into a long standing war. If there was follow up to be done, it was to be done by the Israelis. The decision on whether or not this escalates and whether or not the United States gets involved into a deeper conflict in the Middle east is no longer Donald Trump's decision. It is up to the Iranians as the President has directed. Made clear.
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Kristen
This is most certainly not open ended.
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Jack Posobic
We will respond if necessary.
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Kristen
The most powerful military in the world is postured and prepared to defend our people.
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Jack Posobic
But what the President gave us, as I said, was a focused, powerful and.
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Kristen
Clear mission on the destruction of Iranian nuclear capabilities.
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Jack Posobic
Oil futures are spiking in reaction to the turmoil in the Middle east and investors do fear that Iran would disrupt what is global shipping via the Strait of Hormuz.
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Matt Boyle
Is the United States now at war with Iran? No, Kristen, we're not at war with Iran.
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Jack Posobic
We're at war with Iran's nuclear program.
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Matt Boyle
And what we did is we destroyed.
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Jack Posobic
The Iranian nuclear program.
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Matt Boyle
I think we set that program back substantially and we did it without endangering the lives of the American pilots.
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Jack Posobic
Foreign folks, Jack, Here live, Washington, D.C. here today is June 23, 2025 Anno Dominique. Just moments ago, Iran conducted retaliatory strikes on US Air bases, particularly one in Qatar, the Aladdin Air Base, which is held there now. We're also told though that by U.S. officials that all missiles were intercepted after being fired from Iran. Guys, if we can get a map up of the Persian Gulf so people know what we're talking about and we want people to be able to understand that this was intercepted, some of the rockets, if they did fall down, that the damage was minimal. We're told no injuries, no casualties as of this point. And it also seems as though this is the end of the retaliation. And if this is the end of the retaliation, President Trump and also some US Officials briefing on background that it looks as though they're calling it a failed retaliation and thus not requiring an escalation. And if so, this could potentially be an off ramp being offered by the Iranians saying they don't want to break this thing out into a wider scale war with the United States. However, the neocons on the other hand, and guys, if you could just put that map up, that the neocons are still, still foaming at the mouth for a full on war on Iran. A full on war, because that's what they want. That's what they've wanted all along. You got Jack Keane over there on Fox News saying, oh, he felt emotional looking at all of this Institute for the Study of War that has studied everything wrong about the Ukraine war from day one. Jackie, maybe you could be an intern here at Human Events Daily, we could check that out. And then you got other neocons like Mark Levin up there trying to redefine what MAGA is trying to redefine. And it's the same old 2003, right? Mark Levin, who said he would never vote for Donald Trump comes out. And just like in 2003, you're not patriotic if you don't support this war, it's not patriotic. And then he went and even said that perhaps we should give nukes to Ukraine, which is strange because I was told that all of this was about non proliferation. We don't want to see the proliferation of nukes. So why are you suggesting that we give nukes to a non nuclear country? Folks, the neocons are at it again. But Human Events Daily is here to draw the line in the stand. This retaliatory strike, whatever it was, seems more like a work than anything else. Seems like a little bit of theater. Seems like paid fave. Seems like the Iranians are presenting that off ramp. And I think that President Trump is signaling that this will not require a response from the United States. Remember, we told you before, we've already brought our troops and our planes out of there. What America first truly means. Welcome to the second American Revolution. All right. Folks, Jack Posobic back here live. Human events daily, Washington D.C. breaking down all the updates. The Pentagon now putting out statements regarding this, this attack. And it looks as though we said that, that it seems that this is the end of it. It seems though the retaliation was may or may not have meant to be a little bit of theater, a little bit of Kay Fabe, as they say in the pro wrestling community. Want to bring on now the D.C. bureau chief for Breitbart News, Matt Boyle. Matt, you actually have the DoD report. Can you give that to us?
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Kristen
Yeah. So here I'm going to look down on my phone so I can read the statement for you. So this is from the DoD that they can confirm that Al Dad Air base, and I'm probably not pronouncing that right, in Qatar was attacked today by short and medium range ballistic missiles originating from Iran. At this time, there are no reports of American casualties. Closely monitoring the situation will provide additional information as it becomes available. Look, I think the big picture here is that first off, let me preface this by saying we only know what we know and we don't know what we don't know. We'll see as things develop here. But the big picture here is that I think this is why we elected President Trump. I think he's handled this masterfully since the very beginning. He's shown thoughtful deliberation and consternation as he made a very critical decision to send in the, the B2 bombers over the weekend to take out the nuclear sites in Iran. And the other missile strikes that you saw, the Tomahawk, Tomahawk missiles from the Navy ships that they used on the other sites, this is a huge moment for the President. It's a legacy defining moment. I think he's handled it masterfully. And now we're seeing what appears to be, and again, this is early, so we don't know if there's other things coming or if there's other stuff. On what appears to be a chance for de escalation and a shot to do exactly what President Trump set out to do on this, which was, this was a one and done thing, right? Like the US did its part. I think that the speech you saw from President Trump on Saturday night, which was very short, where he was flanked by the Secretaries of State and defense as well as the vice president, when he announced this to the nation and to the world, you know, it was a little bit bellicose, right? Like, so he was up there very aggressive with the Iranians talking about future strikes as a possibility. And I think a lot of America first folks were a little bit perturbed by that. But I think that the point of that speech was to deter any serious Iranian response. And it seems to have worked. Right. Like so. Again, I think that the point here is, is that people across the America first movement, I've been saying this throughout the entire process here, dating back two weeks now, since Israel began striking Iran, is that people have trust in the president. I think that the MAGA America first movement is unified behind President Trump. They want to see that they have a lot of trust in him, and frankly, they have a lot of distrust in our establishment and institutions, et cetera, the intelligence agencies, the Pentagon, et cetera. And rightfully so, because of the failures of leaders in both political parties for the last 30 or so years, really dating back to in the post Ronald Reagan era. Both Bushes, Clinton, Obama, Biden. You know, all of these presidents have done serious damage to the credibility of our various institutions, our intelligence agencies and our military institutions. But I think President Trump is bringing it back. And I think this is a big part of the reason why, too. You're seeing huge numbers, booms in recruiting, right? Like I was speaking this weekend to the Navy's U.S. navy Secretary spokeswoman, who's our former Pentagon correspondent from Breitbart, Christina Wong. She was telling us that they've already three months ahead of schedule, already hit the fiscal year's recruiting goals for the United States Navy. And that's because Americans have confidence in President Trump. And I think that as President Trump navigates this really perilous situation in the Middle East, I think he's done a masterclass and we'll see where things go from here. But I do believe that America first leaders have the utmost confidence in President Trump, and I think he's handled it well. And I think that the people, you know, in the neocon globalist establishment that are pushing for more are wrong. And I think that the people in the Democrat side that are pushing for less are wrong. I think President Trump has struck an incredible balance here. And again, how he handles this moving forward, very similar to the Soleimani strike. This is a legacy defining moment for him as president, as president of the United States, and where we go from here and what happens next. You know, and again, all the proper caveats here. If we don't know what we don't know, and we do know what we do know. But things are looking good for President Trump.
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Matt Boyle
Matt.
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Jack Posobic
I think that's right. And I think that President Trump clearly drew a line around this nuclear program, saying that this was always going to be his. His main priority when it came to this situation. Now, obviously, there are going to be questions as we go down the line between Israel and Iran and how much longer that air campaign will come down. We've talked about here on this program the worry of air attrition and whether or not Israel can keep up the air defense that they've been conducting. Actually, just as we were preparing for the show, I was watching some of the air defense over Kyiv because they're getting hit right now. The Russians are still, by the way, rocking Kiev, and they're really advancing along the front lines because a lot of people aren't paying attention to that while everyone's distracted. And of course, Kiev looking as though its air defense resources are running low as well, because this is a finite world. And conservative, by the way, this is something that makes conservatives different from liberals. We understand that we live in a world of finite resources. Liberals don't seem to quite grasp that. And so when we look at all of this, the question, of course, for President Trump is what is the best America first way through the entire thing? And to your point, I think he's played it very well, and I think he understands that for the US to get involved at a higher level, the way you're hearing all these neocons call for is just not something that there's an appetite for.
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Kristen
Yeah, no, I think that's right. But again, a lot depends on events from here. Right. And I do think that people have the utmost confidence and trust in President Trump to handle it well. And again, it's sad that we have to go through this. Right. But the reason why we have to have this debate and this discussion openly is because of the failures of people like George Bush and the failures of people like Barack Obama and Bill Clinton and George H.W. bush, like all of these loser presidents of both parties, really did a number on the credibility of our government, and President Trump is having to dig us out of this mess. But I again, have. I think that if you compare the way that Bush handled Iraq to the way that Trump is now handling Iran, it's just night and day better. And I think that under Trump here, and I think that the president is going to continue to. Look, I always tell people, because I know President Trump really well, I always tell people this. And I've talked to him so many times over the last decade plus.
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Matt Boyle
Right.
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Kristen
Like, even before he came down the escalator, when he came down the escalator that day, I was standing at the bottom. And then I did the first interview with him up in his office later that day in the 26th floor of Trump Tower. That was, that was a little over a decade ago. Decade. A week ago or something. The, the, the, I always tell people one of his best qualities, and you don't always see this because you don't always see it when the cameras are rolling. He's an excellent listener, right? So he's always soliciting feedback. And, and I say this all the time.
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Jack Posobic
I say he never gets credit for it.
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Kristen
Never gets credit for it. He's an excellent listener and he's really trying to strike the right balance and he's very thoughtful and deliberative. Right. Like, and I think that as he made this decision going into last week, you know, I think he, he went back and forth on it and he was really seriously, you know, he wasn't sure. By the way, it was funny because you saw the reporters there in the White House when he was putting up the flag polls last week, trying to nail him down on, oh, are you going to do it and when are you going to do it? And like, he's, he's like, you don't know what I'm going to do. You don't know when I'm going to. I don't even think he knew what he was going to do. I think he was still soliciting information from different people and different opinions and considering it. And then he made his decision. And I think that the America First Movement, which President Trump created and built, stands behind him. And I think that all of these establishment media people that are out there saying that there's division in the MAGA movement and so on, there is no division. I think that people are very unified behind President Trump. They support, support him as this is going forward and they know that he's handling it very thoughtfully and carefully and he's trying to not get us dragged into a long term war or conflict in the Middle East.
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Jack Posobic
Matt, we got a quick break coming up. Right now, folks are looking at Matt Boyle, the Washington bureau chief of Breitbart News. Be right back, Jack. So for human events, real American.
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Matt Boyle
Hey.
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Kristen
You know, they talk about influencers. These are influences and they're friends of mine. Jack, he's got a great job.
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Jack Posobic
All right, Jack Pacific, we're back live here in a sweltering Washington D.C. on real America's voice, folks. RFK Jr. Is known for his sharp mind and relentless energy. Remember that viral video of him using methylene blue to stay focused, energized and mentally resilient. Now you can experience those same benefits with Recharge from the Wellness company. This is a doctor formulated Nutraceutical that delivers a never before seen combo of methylene blue, NAD and pqq, creating a unique formula designed to optimize mitochondrial function, improve energy and enhance mental clarity. Methylene Blue crosses the blood brain barrier to enhance memory, focus and executive function by increasing ATP production, the true fuel of our cells. It also works as a potent antioxidant, an anti inflammatory, helping protect against aging and cellular damage. If you're looking for a real mental and physical edge, Recharge delivers. Get 10% off plus free shipping. Head to TWC Health POSO and use promo code POSO. Feel the difference, Think clearer. Recharge. We're on again with Matt Boyle here. He's the Washington bureau chief of Breitbart News. Matt, look, we're, you know, we're in D.C. we're talking about all this. Look, President Trump still has a huge domestic agenda that he's working to push through on Capitol Hill. Do you think all of this flare up of foreign affairs is going to play into getting votes back on board for the big beautiful bill? These other agenda items that he's been talking about, where do you think it stands in terms of all that?
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Kristen
Well, yeah, look, I would just say. Well, first off, I spoke to the Senate Majority Leader, John Thune, on Saturday because he, back in early May, he had told me that the goal out of the Senate, assuming the House was able to hit its goal of Memorial Day, of getting their bill out of the House, which they did. And as I told the Speaker Mike Johnson, when I was talking to him after that, they came in under budget and ahead a schedule.
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Matt Boyle
Right.
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Kristen
Which was great. Out of the House. The Senate Majority leader was saying that they want to get the bill out of the Senate to the president by July 4th. And so I asked the Senate Majority leader if that's still on track. And you know, July 4th is next weekend. Right. It's a week from Friday. Right. So we're like, you know, a little over a week and a half away from that. So he said that they are right. Like, so I believe that by the way, they're going through what's called the bird bath right now in the US Senate that's named for Robert Byrd, the former Senate majority leader, where they go through the process of determining what can and cannot go through the reconciliation bill process, which is a budget gimmick that allows them to pass stuff on a 51 vote threshold rather than a 60 vote threshold. So they don't have to do the nuclear option. Get rid of the filibuster. Filibuster obviously important because if the Democrats, you know, if and when they retake the Senate, that they will, you know, ram through all sorts of radical things. The filibusters are checking a balance there against that. So the, the, they're going through that process right now. But I do think that the event that you're seeing in the Middle east, particularly with regard to energy, are probably going to increase the urgency for this. Right. Like because one of the things that you saw this this morning from President Trump, he came out and said to the Energy Department, drill, baby, drill.
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Matt Boyle
Right.
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Kristen
Like to Energy Secretary Chris Wright. Now tomorrow morning here in Washington, D.C. i'm going to interview Secretary Wright at a Breitbart event. We're going to carry video live on Breitbart.com and I'm sure it will be picked up in other places. But we're going to talk about exactly this. Now, there are things in this big beautiful build on energy that are extremely important, like for instance, mandatory permits given out for auctions where the energy companies will bid to. And this will raise major revenue for the federal government, but it will also get the energy going for offshore drilling in the Gulf of America as well as onshore drilling throughout, throughout the continental US as well as up in Alaska. So we're going to talk all about that with Secretary Wright and the factors that are in this legislation. And the president is exactly right to focus on that because you're hearing the Iranians talk about possibly trying to close the Strait of Hormuz. If they close that straight down. There's a lot of energy that goes through that strait. Now, it's not going to completely shut down energy development and trade throughout the world, but it would have a big impact on things. And so the world will have to adjust, the US Being energy dominant. Right. Like and President Trump has made a national energy dominance Council. Right. Where there's just chair before we run out of Bergam and Secretary Wright, extremely important here.
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Jack Posobic
Absolutely. And just before we run out of time, I want to throw out that oil prices are down right now because it looks as though Iran has ended its retaliation. So we are seeing that price of Brent Oil go down just as we're tracking, we're tracking many things here on the program. And that certainly is one of the Matt, where can people go to get all of your breaking updates and follow.
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Kristen
Everything you're putting out Breitbart.com and I'm on X Twitter @envoy01 on X.
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Jack Posobic
Well, Matt, it's. It's about time you finally got back on X because we need your plugged in voice and everybody needs as much analysis as they can get as we go through these turbulent times. Is everyone enjoying the fourth turning? We told you it would happen and we told you that President Trump was the man to see it through. We'll be right back. Jack Wick Rill, America's Voice.
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Kristen
And Jack. Where's Jack?
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Jack Posobic
Where's Jack?
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Kristen
Where is he?
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Jack Posobic
Jack, I to want to see you.
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Kristen
Great job, Jack.
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Jack Posobic
Thank you. What a job you do.
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Kristen
You know, we have an incredible thing. We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys and these are the guys should be getting policies.
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Jack Posobic
All right, Jack. Live Human events daily, Washington, D.C. beautiful flags flying over the White House. You could see that great shot right there. Jefferson Memorial in the background. It is a sweltering day here in the D.C. area, all up and down the East Coast. So if you got a swimming pool, make sure you take care of that. Also, when you go in the pool, keep in mind, keep an eye on those kids when they go swimming. It's something that I always have to say in summertime, and people don't realize that drowning doesn't look like it does on the tv, you know. You know, on TV or like in a movie with all the screaming and splashing. No, it's actually very quiet and it's very quick and it can happen within moments. Also, make sure you check your backseat when you get out, especially if you have small children. Do not leave them in there. They're sleeping. You're running around. Just don't do it. Sick of these headlines. When you hear people do it, just don't do it. It's as simple as that. Folks, I want to bring on Joshua Lysek, now, the co author of UN Humans the Secret History of Communist Revolutions and How to Crush Them, to go through a little bit of what we're seeing from the mainstream media right now, particularly as regards to something that I talked about last week. Get into that in one second. Joshua, how are you doing?
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Matt Boyle
Pretty dandy. A little bit sweltering here in Ohio, Jack, but coming through. Okay.
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Jack Posobic
Guys, we have Joshua's audio. I'm not hearing it on my end.
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Matt Boyle
Let's see if we can get me back here.
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Jack Posobic
Let's try that again.
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Matt Boyle
Let's try that again. Let's see if we can try that again.
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Jack Posobic
Well, Folks, what I've been calling this is the regime change upsell this idea that the mainstream media and the neocons know that President Trump is totally against getting into these forever wars. And of course we know, and Kurt Mills tweeted this earlier that a forever war doesn't. Isn't called a forever war when it starts little bit by little bit by a little bit and it ratchets up. And if you are a certain age, you remember how these things get started. Well, he's always said that he's against the nuclear program. Okay, got it. Take care of the strikes. Nuclear program gets hit, they're knocked back years or whatever exactly it is. We're waiting to see the battle damage assessment from that, waiting to see the military declassify some of this information. But you can see the neocons. And I'll say something right now, it seems like the neocons are upset that US soldiers didn't get killed in these Iranian strikes today. Because I saw a neocon. I've got all your tweets saved. And I saw them saying, oh, the US has to declare war on Iran right now. US has to declare war on Iran right now. We need regime change. Need regime change. They're actually, they're acting like they're upset up there that US soldiers didn't get killed or didn't get hurt or that US jets weren't hurt. It's disgusting and it's sick. Guys, do we have Joshua up?
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Matt Boyle
Testing, testing.
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Jack Posobic
Oh, Joshua, we got you. Great, perfect. So, Joshua, am I, Am I. You're, you're the persuasion expert. Am I seeing this? Am I seeing things or is this happening? Are they trying to upsell the President, United States and all of us on regime change?
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Matt Boyle
Oh, yes, they have been doing this, the neoconservative characters, neoliberal characters, for a very long time now. And you and I also collaborated on a little book called Bulletproof, the first and only investigation the attempted assassination of President Donald J. Trump. And we wrote about the intended escalation by the military industrial complex over the Iranian plot hypothesis that Thomas Matthew Crooks, the Butler, Pennsylvania shooter, was in fact act in league with the Iranian intelligence service. And we found that there was simply no evidence of that scenario. It's. It's a little bit plausible. But we point out that the sustained military engagement and defense spending which benefits military industrial complex could very well be behind that narrative for which we found no, no evidence for a unspoken by most reason why the neoconservative crowd, who call themselves Christians in many an unspoken reason why there's such, almost like a desire for war in the reason has to do with bad theology. There is a type of eschatology which has to do with one's belief in an end times, let's say, called premillennial dispensationalism. That is a lot of syllables right there in that mouthful. But characters like Mike Pence, the former vice president who is praising President Donald J. Trump, we have Mark Levin, we have other characters who are on the right, they're evangelical Christians who ascribe to this idea that, and Ted Cruz spoke about this on the interview with Tucker Carlson, that the modern state of Israel, founded in 1948, is somehow the fulfillment of Old Testament biblical prophecies that are about the Jews return to their homeland following the Babylonian exile. I don't think that's the case, folks. I don't think that's the case. And so Senator Ted Cruz is, is giving his, let's say, religious motivation for intervening in the Middle East. And so the fact that the United States is not in a shooting war is they're not declaring war on an adversary of the modern state of Israel is in this set of beliefs. It's somehow going to set the rapture back a number of years, a number of decades. And Jesus ain't gonna come back until there is a war in the Middle east and the United States gets wiped out. Which, by the way, is a big part of this predictive framework of, of the Rapture and the end times. You, you and I, as, as you.
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Jack Posobic
Know, Josh, let me, let me run that through if I can. And, and, and folks know, I'm Roman Catholic, I'm Polish, you pretty much come in one flavor in terms of that. So, you know, you know, we don't have this eschatology at all. So, so what you're saying is this is, I don't want to get into the theology debate of it, but what you're saying is this is a different version of what, what's got our good friend Scott Adams and, you know, peace be upon him, that can be a sort of different movie, same movie, different screens. So we're all watching the same movie, and yet other people who look at it, who believe in this, they view all of these as the fulfillment of a, if I understand correctly, a series of prophecies that indicate the return of Christ. And so while a lot of people look at this and they say, wait a minute, you know, okay, we don't like nukes, right? We don't like, you don't like religious nut jobs like the theocrats in Iran getting nukes, we're going to blow them up or you know, end the program by other means. Okay, that's number one. But we also don't like World War iii. So we don't want that. And we certainly don't like the idea of the price of gas going up to $6 a gallon at the summertime. But what you're saying is there's even another group that looks at and this and this. By the way, you know, if you're someone who has these beliefs, there are understand there are people who don't who are also Christians. So what you're saying is they might actually be rooting this on because of this worldview.
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Matt Boyle
Yes, this worldview that I'm laying out. This eschatology of like end times prophecy was popularized first amongst the baby boomer generation in the late 1970s and 80s by a character named Hal Lindsay. The number one best selling book of the 1980s was called the Late Great Planet Earth. And it was laying out everything I've just said. The 1948 refounding of the state of Israel is literally in the Bible. The modern Jewish state is literally God's chosen people. Israel is the clock is something that Hal Lindsay said. And then tens of millions Americans grew up, came of age and then many of them became bureaucrats, politicians and neocons with this information environment. And part of the set of prophecies is that the biblical lands of Gog and Magog are referring to modern day Russia and Iran. So when evangelical Christians who have this eschatology, this background, when they see these headlines about Russia saying this, Iran saying this, they go, that's literally in the Bible. World War III is going to happen. They're going to invade. Israel will. But wait a second. As Hal Lindsay, let's say John Hagee, TD Jakes and others who, who put forward this idea. Wait a second. Iran and Russia are literally obviously in the Old Testament prophecy, in the book of Daniel and Ezekiel and so on and so forth. Isaiah, right. They would say the United States of America isn't in here, so the United States of America must have been absolutely wiped out in a nuclear war. So the only way for Jesus to come back is for the United States to no longer exist. And it is get. It gets a little bit dark when you realize this, but yet this is what I heard as a child growing up in this particular sect of evangelical Christianity. And while they don't say this, they don't all say this openly. I don't believe we should be following neoconservative evangelicals who believe the decisions they're going to make will necessarily result in the destruction of the United States of America. Lindsey Graham, Ted Cruz, Mike Pence, these are not the influencers that we should be taking our counsel from with regard to making peace, not war.
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Jack Posobic
And Joshua, when we, when we look at all this, that this is something where you can see, and I'm sure there's a variety of interests, right. I've talked about how I'm sure the Arab monarchies who are no fans of the Persians, they're looking at those oil fields across Iran along the Persian Gulf and they're licking their chops, thinking that they can perhaps get access or gain control there. I've talked about how regime chain schemes, I went on Tim Pool last week and broke down all of Operation Ajax and how that was a scheme between the CIA and originating with the MI6 to overthrow the duly elected Prime Minister of Iran, reinstall the shop and completely blew up on our faces and led to the Iranian revolution. So the thing with these regime change operations is they always seem good, but then everybody forgets that the enemy gets a vote vote and they always seem to spiral out of control. I can't necessarily think of a single one that's actually gone well for the United States or for anyone in any of these regions. But Joshua, that's what it comes down to. Because therefore, put it this way, war is a racket. And for those on the warmonger side, they seriously want, for a variety of reasons, as you've laid out, one of the bigger ones, they actually want to see the US Go to war. Isn't that right?
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Matt Boyle
That's right. So we have both the religious and the economic arguments for war, war, war, when in reality, I don't believe that that's what the American people want. Every survey, every poll shows how despairingly unpopular regime change in Iran is amongst not just Trump voters, but Americans more broadly and also in throughout the world. There is simply not an appetite to do this, this once again, even though there is for some a religious motivation to escalate, there's financial benefit and escalating for the military industrial complex. It's just simply not necessary for our, our president of peace to, from my perspective.
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Jack Posobic
Coming up on a quick break.
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Matt Boyle
And there is that there is a temptation for upsell. Well, it was just the one, you know, nuclear strikes. Well, actually, you know, maybe there's other sites. Well, maybe we need to do this, maybe we need to do that.
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Jack Posobic
And I want to, I want to, when we come back, I actually want to ask you about the psychology of upselling, you know, because this, this is something, a tactic that people can possibly look into on their, in their own daily basis when they know that it's coming up, folks, President Trump is in control. Not the Iranians, not the Israelis, not the neocons. President Trump is in control because it was the people of this country who put him there. Be right back. Jack Posobic, Real America's Voice, Human Events Daily. Jack is a great guy. He's written a fantastic book. Everybody's talking about it.
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Matt Boyle
The reason why it works is twofold. And we're seeing with the Iran regime change upsell right now the first reason upselling as a sales technique tactic works is the foot in the door technique. So ultimately you have perhaps this large value sale that you're ultimately going towards words. But you start with something that is a little, a little crack open that is reasonable and it is dismissible and it just makes sense. And all the logic is there and enough people, or in this case there's enough argument for agreement with it. Okay, yeah, that makes sense. I have a cavity, for example, with the dentist example. And then it turns out you get your X rays done and you have 50 cavities. Slight exaggeration, but not by much. And then the next, next reason kicks in, which is a sunk cost fallacy. You know, you've been here all day getting all this dental work done and we had the cleaning, we had the dentist, we had these X rays and just look at all the stuff that needs to get done. And you've already spent so much time and effort and cha ching with this work here being done. And that would just, it would just all go to waste. It would all just be so wasted if we didn't. And that's how the United States military stayed in Vietnam for so long. Perpetual cross sells and upsells. Well, we just need to do this. We just need to do that. Remember with, with, with Afghanistan. Oh, it's just Osama bin Laden. Oh, actually is weapons of mass destruction. Oh, actually the whole system's got to go. Same with Arab Spring. Oh, it's just Gaddafi. Oh, now it's just Egypt. Oh, now it's just Syria. Oh, now it's just. And ultimately we have the, these, these, these massive conflicts where Americans blood is being shed needlessly. If you talk to any global war on terrorism veterans from that particular period. Was the American soldier put first? Did we support the troops by these perpetual cross sells and upsells many will say, absolutely not. Absolutely not. And so we see the same set of techniques. The open door, you know, just crack it open a little bit. It's very reasonable. And once you get in the dentist chair and strapped on there, you can upsell them like mad with the sunk cost fallacy, of course.
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Jack Posobic
So Joshua, what are ways then to counter this? Let's say, you know, you're going, you're going to the dentist, you go, you're dropping your car off at the audio at the auto body shop or the auto service center. And, and you know that, you know what's going to happen, you know that you're, you're about to begin into the pressure. What are some tactics people can use to counter with it?
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Matt Boyle
What is Jack? What, what is the most masculine word.
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Jack Posobic
In English language is the word no?
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Matt Boyle
That's right. I found myself without irony and not as a joke in a dentist's chair a few weeks ago and I got hit with the upsell. I went for a cleaning of get regularly but of course they bring out the membership and it's cheaper if you do this today and you're already going to be paying this, but it's cheaper if you do this. Oh, and X rays owing this and this and oh, the cavities please. And I saw, I looked it over and I just said thank you. No. And they were taken aback. They were a little bit shocked, like he, he was supposed to say yes. What? He just said no. So the American people to the regime change upsell in Iran, we can simply say no. There's not any need for arguments or back and forth or statistics or studies or data or no. No. And we can enforce that no with primary place with feet on the ground or not when it comes to elections coming up with phone calls, with emails, with causing trouble of social media and reaching out to Donald Trump of people who understand what the war over there was really like during 2001-2015 or so.
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Jack Posobic
Joshua Lysac incredible content. Where can people go to follow you.
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Matt Boyle
Brother at Joshua Lysac spelled L I S a C on on X and other social media.
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Jack Posobic
Make sure you're following him, folks. Joshua Lysac Incredible content Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission lay ashore.