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This is Human Events with your host Jack Posobic. Christ is king.
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Trump administration planning a new mission to.
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Target drug cartels in Mexico.
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This is all according to four current.
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And former U.S. officials familiar with that effort.
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The operation would include American troops and.
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Intelligence officers on the ground, striking drug labs and cartel leaders south of the border. This would essentially open a new front.
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In the President's military campaign against cartels. Let's talk about what we are dealing with here. Radical left Democrats who have shut our government down and held the American people hostage for 32 days in a row. We have air traffic controller shortages all over this country. Half of our nation's major airports are suffering from severe delays as we head into the busiest travel months of the season. We have a half million federal workers who are going unpaid. SNAP benefits have expired. Only because of President Trump finding a legal maneuver are our troops continuing to be getting paid. And that's why President Trump has said Republicans need to get tough, they need to get smart and they need to use this option to get rid of the filibuster. You to reopen the government and do right by the American public.
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Donald Trump, since I know you're watching, I have four words for you. Turn the volume up. In the nation's largest city, a political earthquake. 34 year old Democratic socialist Zoran Mamdani.
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Is now the new voice of New York.
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In this moment of political darkness, New York will be the light. Mamdani makes history as the first Muslim mayor. New York will remain a city of immigrants. A city built by immigrants, powered by immigrants and as of tonight, led by an immigrant. Hamdani will be the city's youngest mayor in a century. I was going through some of the old conversations that I had with Charlie and Charlie's own tweets. Charlie was talking about Zora Mandami right up until just about two days before Charlie himself was murdered. I found this tweet from him that was just up September 8th. So two days before where Charlie had said that Mandami, if he wins, will usher in a crime wave the likes of which New York had not seen since the 1990s. And sadly, I think Charlie is going to be proven correct. All right, Jack Bosobik, here we are live Human Events Daily. We're in Phoenix, Arizona. Today is November 5, 2025. Anno Domini folks, I'm be very clear with you. Go and look at the results from last night. Not just New York City, not just New Jersey, not just Virginia, but go and look into the actual cross tabs of the vote. And specifically I want to talk about the Gen Z vote because that's where this is going. Traditional old school legacy Republican candidates did not motivate the base last night. But you know what did? Mamdani and Mamdani nomics. And this is something that Charlie Kirk understood indelibly. He went on the Tucker Carlson podcast In July of 2025, his last appearance on the Tucker Carlson podcast ever. And what did Charlie Warren? He warned that Gen Z is going to swing against Republicans if there is not an economic conditional fix for Gen Z. What does that mean? You have to improve their economic conditions. You have to be able to do this and do it not. And they will turn to Mamdani. Well, guess what boys and girls, that's exactly what happened last night. Gen Z, massive swing across the board. And it has to be said, it just has to be said. Traditional candidates, Republican candidates, old school candidates, legacy candidates, Andrew Cuomo, by the way, talk about old school and legacy and all the rest. Crushed. Just got crushed. In fact, even Jason Miari's got crushed last night in Virginia. And what one number one issue not just for Gen Z but everywhere. Economics. It's the economy. Economy, economy. And so I've been tweeting about this, I've been posting stuff, I've been getting it out there. People need to understand this. You need to understand it. Republicans must embrace populism and deliver on populist victories. Legacy GOP candidates and talking points failed last night. The MAGA model is the only way forward as Trump showed. Cost of living, jobs, debt, housing, economic conditions for young and middle Americans. That means this is what needs to be focused on. It needs to be front and center. Do this or you will get Mamdani. And what did Mamdani do? You heard him last night. He didn't talk about fathers, he didn't talk about America as a country. He didn't talk about people who built this country. No, no. He talked about the gimmick rinse and the Mamdani model is going to be. And by the way, by the way, Mamdani got a majority. He got over 50% last night. So this is going to be the new Democrat model going forward. Import as many voters as you can and then run one of them to go and allocate the things from people who built the country, who built the wealth and take it from them. It is grievance. It is resentment. The mask went completely off. And you don't have to.
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You don't have to.
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I would sit here telling you every day he was going to do this. Van Jones even admitted it. He did it himself, by the way, on stage. If you go watch Mamdani speech, go and watch it. It's so clear. It is so clear. He is targeting you. It's going to be open season on white people. And I'm going to say this. It's very clear. President Trump and the gop. Trump is exactly right. Get rid of the filibuster. It is time to start governing. Rip it off. Rip it off like a band aid. Rip off the filibuster and get in there because the Democrats are going to if you don't do it first. So get in there and start putting points on the board and to majority leader, to Senate Majority Leader Thune and all the rest. You got to get on board. Jack Posobic, huge show today. We'll be right back.
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Nothing will stand in our way. And our golden age has just begun.
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This is Human Events. With Jack sober now, it's time for everyone to understand what America first truly means. Welcome to the second American Revolution. All right, Jack Posobic, we are back live here, Human Events Daily. Very excited on Phoenix, Arizona. And we're so excited, by the way, about our new partners over at Steak N Shake. Folks, somewhere along the way, we traded real flavor for seed oils and processed junk. It's time to take back our kitchens and Steak and Shake is here to help. Introducing steak and Shake's 100% pure beef tallow. No chemicals, no fillers. You know, these guys are great because it's just premium beef fat rendered the old fashioned way, the way my Polish grandparents used to do it. And right now, they have two options to choose from both@steak and shake.com. that steak and Shake with the letter N, there's their grass fed beef tallow, only $9 a jar. And there's also their American wagyu beef tallow just $12 a jar with a rich buttery taste or Bundle both for 1999 and revolutionize your cooking. Fry the crispiest fries. Sear the perfect steak. Roast vegetables bursting with real flavor. This is how food should taste. Bring tradition and taste back to your table with Steak and Shake Beef Tallow. Order now at steak and shake.com that steak and shake with the letter N. All right, very excited now, by the way, as well to have on our next guest. It is the Pentagon press secretary Kingsley Wilson. She joins us now. Kingsley, how are you?
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Great. Thanks for having me, Jack.
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Well, Kingsley, I just wanted to mention, you know, do you have a message at all for the, the mainstream media who are, who always so love to watch your appear here on the program. I saw so many of them commenting last. So I'm sure they're here watching right now.
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You're absolutely right. I'm sure they are. I think they love human events. But no, we are lucky to be joining a new member of the Pentagon press corps and excited for all the great coverage that you and the program are continuing to do of the Pentagon. So we're very excited about that despite the mainstream media's dismay that you're one of our credentialed reporters.
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Well, thank you so much, Kingsley. And look, as I've said from the outset and to anyone who's asked, you know, our, our job is to tell the story and tell the true story about what's going on. And we certainly did that over the summer with, with the various military operations that took place, Operation Midnight Hammer, all the rest of it. And, and we'll continue to do so. And so I'd be remiss, you know, the last time you were on here, we talked about Venezuela, we talked about in general the cartel strikes that have been going on. That's increased. You actually were one of the first people to give us that, you know, kind of a on that. What are we seeing in terms of this and what are you able to tell us at this time regarding that?
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Absolutely. So we have not stopped seeking out these narco terrorist threats across the region. Just last night we had our 16th strike on a drug carrying vessel with narco terrorists aboard. 66 narco terrorists have been eliminated through these strikes. And that is a direct result of, of the charge that President Trump gave this department, the War Department, when he declared them designated terrorist organizations. Now because of that designation, we have the ability as the War Department at the Pentagon every day to track these networks, to make sure that we find them, hunt them and kill them because they are attempting to bring deadly drugs to the United States of America and to poison our people. That has to stop. You've seen the President say it time and time again. Each one of these vessels, if it got all the way to the United States of America, would kill 23,000 people. That is totally unacceptable. Each narco terrorist that we are taking out is saving American lives.
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And so when you're looking at this, by the way, and I've pointed out as well a number of times to other folks that were the U.S. navy to conduct a VBSS operation and actually put boots on one of those, one of those boats, that's actually far more dangerous and risky for the sailors involved in such an operation or an interdiction, which includes some kind of VBSS element, than simply what the military is doing here.
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Absolutely. And I think these strikes are also sending a message, right. If you're someone who wants to bring deadly drugs to America, if you're a part of our cartel, you're anarcho terrorist, you're going to think twice about getting in a boat and, and making your deliveries. Because the US Military is on watch. Absolutely. No one can hide, no one can run. We are all over the region working with our partners to make sure that we have the assets that we need to be able to execute on behalf of President Trump and the American people. You know, Jack, you're a Navy guy. We're sending a carrier strike group to the southcom aor. I can't remember the last time that's happened, and it certainly hasn't in recent history. It is historic that we are going to be sending a, an aircraft carrier to that region to deal with this threat. It shows just how serious President Trump is about protecting the American people, our waterways, our hemisphere and our borders. And that is what we elected him to do. So we're very proud to be delivering on this charge every single day.
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Now, of course, the, so the USS Ford, the strike group moving down to southcom aor, and yes, to your point, this is the first time in a very long time that that we've seen any of this. We know, of course, though, that there's been a lot of reporting in the media and obviously some pushback from the administration regarding the purpose of that carrier. Some, I believe that was the Miami Times or the Miami Herald had reported that land strikes were going to be coming on the ground in Venezuela. Does the administration have a position or a statement on that?
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The President was pretty clear about that. You know, he said that he hasn't made a decision yet. But what our job here at the War Department is, is to make sure that we're preparing for every scenario. Wherever we are in the world, we want to have options for the president. We want to have contingency plans. So having these assets in the region, not only does it send a strong signal to these cartel terrorists that want to wreak havoc on our people, it also ensures that if the president wants to make a decision or wants to do something, we have the people there to execute on that mission. So that is what we are doing all across the region, and we will continue to make sure the president has that optionality, and we will seek to follow his direction every single step of the way. But again, I can't underscore how historic this is. We are so used to seeing carriers and carrier strike groups in the Middle East. Now we're protecting our own homeland. We've spent decades protecting other homelands. Now we're making sure that the American people are safe and taken care of. And that is truly something that this department is proud of.
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So, Kingsley, we're, we're, as we're discussing this, you're talking about resources, you talk about military resources. We do know as well, though, that there is a question regarding, and I remember, by the way, being a, you know, former employee of the, at the time, Department of Defense, when, when we went through, I think it was, the 2013 shutdown, there were questions about furloughs, there were questions about pay, questions about military pay as well. What is the current status of this? Is the military getting paid? Will they be getting paid? And where are we at with the shutdown?
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So, thankfully, thanks to President Trump's direction, the military has been getting paid. So that is something that we are doing. Despite the Democrats refusal to fund the government and to pay our troops. They have voted now 14 times, I believe, to not pay our federal workers and our troops. We're finding a way to do that. We're reallocating funds where we can. But this shutdown is definitely hurting our military families. Think about military spouses, for instance. 58,000 military spouses are employed by the federal government. And many of those families rely on two incomes to support their large families. Now they're having to rely on one income. There is a lot of stress that we are putting on our service members. That is totally unfair. Doesn't have to happen. But Schumer and the Democrats would rather focus on, you know, free health care for illegal immigrants and slush funds for pbs, then take care of our service members and their families. And that is truly disgraceful. I cannot tell you the amount of psychological harm this does to a lot of our military families. A good example of that is permanent change of station moves. When you're moving from one duty station to the next, you're bringing your whole family with you, all of your items in your house. That is something the military helps you with. Right now those moves are on hold. So families are in limbo. Perhaps they've sold their house, perhaps they've packed up all their stuff and they're now stuck in a holding pattern until the government can reopen. That is totally unfair. Our military members and their families deserve better. So we surely hope that the government will reopen and the Democrats will stop playing politics and make sure that they get our service members what they need.
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That's exactly right. And you know, I remember just, you know, from having been in the military, you look at a PCs, you look at anything tdys. All of this requires budget, all of this requires outlays. And for, for the folks, when you're on active duty orders, your entire life circulates around the military and government work. That's the point. That's the idea that you're willing to give up and volunteer to go in. And we have the all volunteer force. And so you, you, the, you know, the other side of that equation, the two way street is that you will be taken care of. So your housing, your health care, your benefits, et cetera, that all comes from the government. And to your point, while basic pay is still going out, it's all of this other stuff that does affect your standard of living does require more outlays. And so I appreciate the fact that you're talking about military families here because I really feel that for a lot of these folks that military families and military spouses, they do so much for, for their service members when they're in and they oftentimes get overlooked.
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Absolutely. And that's something that we've been really, really focused on here at the department. You know, we talked a little bit about the PCs moves, the permanent change of station moves. We actually launched a task force to make that process better. We also recently launched a new barracks task force. We're going to make sure that our barracks are up to standards and where they should be because a lot of the conditions that our service members are living in, frankly aren't good enough. And there's been a lot that has fallen to the wayside. So we at the department are focused on making sure that the members of our military have lives and high standards and they have living conditions that are worthy of the hard work they do every single day. That is, of course, easier when we have government funding. So we will get to continue all of that important great work when the government reopens. Certainly. We hope it's soon.
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Well, you and me both. Kingsley Wilson, where can people go to get more information about everything your office is putting out?
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Thanks so much. Please follow me. Press sec, Dow. Also our Department of War page puts out great content every single day. So check us out.
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All right. Thank you so much. That's Kingsley Wilson. She is the press secretary for the War Department joining us here, Human Events Daily. As we are members of the new Pentagon press corps. We're going to go back now. Got to dig in on elections a bit more. Adam Weiss joins us next. Human Events Daily Real Marcus Boyce today.
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You know, they talk about influencers. These are influencers and they're friends of mine, Jack Soic.
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Where's Jack? Jack.
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He's got a great job.
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All right, Jack back live here, Human Events Daily. We're in Phoenix, Arizona. Excited to have on now, first time on the show, but I've known him for quite some time. He is a also the host of Media Exposed on Real America's Voice. It's Adam Weiss. What's up, Adam?
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Hey, Jack. Thanks for having me. We're getting interrupted by the Trump news cycle, as always, right.
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It's always good. But, but you know, it's part of the business. What can I say? It comes with the territory. Look, you've been tracking the elections we're looking at of this. I've been talking about Mom, Mom, Donnie a lot. I think one of the things the president should do in terms of a response to this is and is what he's doing is calling for this end of the filibuster because you got to be able to respond to this. But I wanted you to unpack it because you understand obviously New York, New Jersey, very well.
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You know, once he won the primary, which he caught Cuomo and the establishment Dems by surprise. I mean, he had all these young activists and that's what they do for a living, Jack. It's like we go to most conservatives, Republic and business because business leaders, you know, they're busy in New York City. They go about their daily business. But the dsa, that's part of their life. They're activists. They, you know, they live and breathe this stuff. So they caught them off guard. They won the primary. Once they won the Primary, it was shocked everybody to uncover all of his, you know, activism, his anti Jewish sentiments, his anti capitalism sentiments. So once that happened, it's pretty difficult in this environment to beat a Democrat in New York City. Very difficult. Difficult because there's a lot of different lines. It's not just one. It's not just Andrew against Mandani had two lines at the DSA line and the Democratic line. Andrew was way below that made it difficult. And then you had Curtis Lewis stayed in as a principal matter. So now you had. But at the end of the day, you combine Curtis with Cuomo's tallies, and they almost got the same amount of votes together. So what we saw last night, I wanted to give him the benefit of doubt. You know, he's a young guy, maybe he's just an activist and said stupid things and standing next to stupid things. He's always walking around with a smile. But last night was worse than all of his campaigning. He was bitter, he was argumentative. He was bringing up Trump and wanted to fight with Trump. Why do you want to fight with the President of the United States? You just won the mayorship of New York City, our largest city. Reach out, be magnanimous. Say you want to sit down with the other side. You got 50% of New Yorkers that didn't vote for you. It was the biggest turnout in like 40, 55 years, I think. And he was sound like a bitter, angry socialist. So it was sad last night. I thought he'd be more welcoming to the other side.
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Well, look, you know, I've said this for a while, and I think that it's very clear that Mamdani, if you go back and look at his politics prior to this year, he has always been someone who's focused on grievance politics. He's got this anti white sentiment you mentioned, anti capitalist sentiment, anti business, anti affluence. He is very much someone who practices grievance politics and the politics of resentment while tying it. And this is the new form of Marxism, right, where they tie class warfare to. To, you know, ethnic conflicts, to gender conflicts, the rest of that. And that's exactly the type of person you saw on stage last night. And even Van Jones called it out. Even Jan Van Jones said, wow, it really feels like the mask fell off. And I'm like, go look at the guy's Twitter account because he's been bashing people all day long, right up until 2025 when he wanted to run an election and act like all of a sudden he's like, Mr. Squeaky Clean. He's never been like this before.
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And Van Jones, thanks for telling us that now after we won. Right? That's.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Yeah.
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Good job.
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That's when you notice, I mean, if it wasn't such a, you know, if it wasn't accomplished media mostly, probably more people would have voter for Cuomo and that Trump's endorsement really helped Cuomo because Curtis Lee is the GOP nominee. He didn't win the election district Jack, in all of Staten island, which is the only borough that is Republican, some of the districts are hardcore Republican. And Cuomo swamped him in there. So Cuomo and, you know, Cuomo didn't even thank, you know, Trump at all. He didn't even thank Musk at all. So. And then he never. Cuomo also never reached out to conservatives. They, they all backed him, said the world's going to end if we elect Mondani. But Cuomo never came out for. And let's end cashless bail. Let's work with ice. Let's do the things I need to do to reach out the other side. He didn't do that either. So there were a lot of mishaps here that Cuomo did, that he had a shot, better shot at winning the election here. But, yeah, you know, there's a lot of things that Hochul's up for election next year. The governor of New York State. So she doesn't want this radical because New York, you know, if New York gets too radical, that's going to hurt a reelection because Stefanik's going to the GOP minority. I don't know if she's the minority whip. She used to be, but Liz Stefanik, very popular incumbent congressman from upstate New York, she's going to announce very soon her governor Arrays for governor. And Hoco's going to watch Vandani. Hopefully she keeps him in check a bit. And the president. So we won't destroy New York.
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Well, here's the question then that I guess that I think that I've, that I'm looking at, are we going to see more of this kind of Democrat civil war between the older, you know, you call them moderates, but the older liberals and the younger socialists.
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The older liberals we consider people we can actually back have a drink with at the end of the day. Right? We can debate during the day. We can debate it and then at the end of the day, we'll be friends at the bar. This newer generation, they're like invested. You can't even be friends with these people. They're so Radical right. They just want to. They're evil. The fact that they elected a guy that wanted to cause harm to. And the Democrats have come that far, that they want to cause harm to someone and they elected the attorney general in Virginia. That's how the minds of Democratic voters have been persuaded to even accept violence. Right. That's the craziest part of a society. If you told us, Jack, 15 years ago, 20 years, someone said the statements that Jay Jones said he would have been blown away even in a Democratic primary. Fact that he could win in 2020 is a sad state of affairs in the Democratic primary in America. The fact that he pulled this off, the Democratic. That was going to be the attorney general, an attorney general of Virginia with those kind of thoughts. So sad that's going to happen.
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Yeah. And in the wake, and I remember, you know, in the wake of Charlie Kirk's murder just a couple of weeks ago, all of a sudden we were told it's both sides to both sides issue. And then you have, I think it's 1.3, maybe 1.5 million people in Virginia go and vote for a guy who said that he wants to kill conservative children. I'm supposed to unite with a bunch of people that just voted for that guy. I don't get it. We got a minute left. Adam Weiss. Where could people follow you and where can they get the show?
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They can see my show. He's on our app website. Sunday at 6pm Check out media Exposed. I unpack the media bias every week. And we know there's a lot to unpack constantly in the Trump era because he never stops. So thanks for having me, Jack. Appreciate it.
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It's a great show. And then you're right, the news never stops you. Right back. Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice.
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And Jack.
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Where's Jack? Where's Jack?
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Jack?
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Where is he? Jack, I want to see you.
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Great job, Jack.
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Thank you.
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What a job you do.
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You know, we have an incredible thing. We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys.
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And these are the guys who be getting policies.
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All right, Jack Wozobic. We are back live Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice, Phoenix, Arizona. Folks, freedom. It's never been free. And lately we've been reminded of just how high the cost can be. Growing violence is meant to shake us, but it should only strengthen our resolve to never back down. That's why Patriot Mobile exists. For over 12 years, they've been defending faith, family and freedom while providing the same or better premium network access on all three major U.S. networks, unlimited data, mobile hotspots, international roaming, they do it all. When you switch, you don't sacrifice quality or service. Hundreds of thousands have switched the movement, joined the movement by switching their cell service to Patriot Mobile. Now every time they pay their bill, they're supporting the first amendment, the second amendment, the sanctity of life and our veterans and first responders. Switching is easy. Keep your number, keep your phone or upgrade. Their 100 US based customer support team can activate you in minutes on the phone. So call 972 Patriot or visit patriotmobile.com poso today. Use Patriot use promo code POSO for a free month of service. That's patriot mobile.com/poso or call 972-PATRIOT and make the switch today. All right, very excited. We've got on now Turning Point Action. We've got our field rep here. Brett, what's going on man?
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Hey, Jack.
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I'm doing good.
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I'm back here in Wisconsin after spending the last couple of days in Arizona.
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I was going to say, I was going to say I was about to be like I was about to say from Wisconsin but then I realized that you, Tyler has you traveling so much, I realized I hadn't checked in to make sure where you were actually calling in from.
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Yeah, I, I flew into o' Hare this morning and shot back up here to Wisconsin. I'm at our Wisconsin office. We had a victorious night last night at the Turning Point HQ in Phoenix. And so I'm riding that high right now but definitely tired but definitely celebrating some of the, the win, some of the highlights of last night.
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Well, no, I think that's, that's interesting because obviously you know, most people are saying that, you know, that you know, good night for Democrats in the blue states. You know, they were able to keep the blue and of course, you know, Turning Point Action was hugely involved in, in New Jersey as well as in parts of Pennsylvania. But look in these blue areas they stayed blue and these traditional Republicans weren't coming across and the turnout.
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Right.
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I think the turnout in the low prop voters in some of these areas look you to overcome just a massive Democrat registration advantage and that's something you can't do it with just, you know, with just the last couple of weeks. So it's a lot of lessons learned. But talk to me about this massive flip because I've been seeing and you know, Tyler's been sending us article after article of this huge recall victory in Mesa, Arizona.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And I'm not going to sugarcoat it. Last night was a not a great night for Republicans nationwide. But the beacon of hope that I want to instill on the good conservatives listening right now is that Turning Point Action treated Mesa, Arizona like it was the center of the political universe for the last six months. Because there is a woman named Julie Spilsbury sits on the Mesa City Council who is a Republican in quotation marks who co chaired Republicans for Kamala Harris last year in the state of Arizona. Republicans for Kamala Harris paid for billboards, they put out text blasts, they had mailers circulating in Arizona. They could have been detrimental to the effort that so many hardworking people were doing to elect President Trump. And frankly speaking, knowing that President Trump's path to victory was only running through a handful of states, Arizona being the top one of that someone like Julie Spilsbury could have been the reason that Trump lost in 2024. So our turning Point Action team went full steam ahead this year in the effort to officially recall her. Helping gather petition signatures in the spring, did that throughout the summer. And then for the last month, we had a big sprint to the finish line in physically chasing those ballots. Putting together 247 infrastructure on the ground in Mesa District 2 to send that flare signal that we needed to send to the rest of the conservative movement that fake Republicans like Julie Spillsbury are not welcome in the conservative movements. We were able to successfully elect Doreen Taylor as the new Mesa City Councilwoman. But really the broader effects, you know, this is something that could really, really be good.
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And Brett, and Brett, not only that, not only did does do we give Turning Point action and your great efforts action. Julie Spilsbury herself gave credit to Turning Point Action. Guys, let's play that clip this election.
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Look, Turning Point, huge.
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They're a national organization. They have a ton of money. They have a ton of volunteers.
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There were probably 30 volunteers, volunteers at.
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The polling place today.
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Tons of people were flown in from out of state.
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Lots of people told me that people knocked on their door that weren't even from Arizona. How do I fight that? How do I fight that? And the recall would never have been successful without Turning points employees, over 30 of them out knocking doors that are not from Mesa. Just kind of what message do you think this sends to the community of Mesa that you did have this organization, very powerful, a lot of money coming in and stepping into in to a city election. I mean, we saw how many people were out there voting today. What kind of message do you think this sends to the community?
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Yeah, look, I.
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People are always saying that they wish they had better candidates that would run for office. I don't think that's true. Because when good people run for office just because I want to serve my community and then this is what happens to me. Why would anyone want to run when you have groups like Turning Point that can go outside there and put up thousands of signs and send nasty emails and tell lies? Wow. So, I mean, this is just amazing. So we're on with Greg Kalashovsky and he's. He's the National Enterprise director for Turning Point Action. Brett, what is she. Is that true? Is the only thing that she did with her platform to just serve the community? Is that really what she was doing? No.
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I think it's funny, you know, she talks about how, like I was removed because an outside group came in and started telling Mesa voters how their city should be run. And really the true answer is no. Julie, you were removed because you told your constituents you're a Republican, then ran Republicans for Kamala Harris and then gave yourself a raise as a city councilwoman. So voters saw the writing on the wall. They were out in full force helping us on the ground. I think Julie's comments further prove, though, that we truly are a force to be reckoned with in the conservative movement. And accountability is a structural pillar point of ours.
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It's just amazing. It is amazing because you got a situation like this where it, by the way, and this I think also shows writ large that with the Turning Point Action model, with that model of knocking on doors and going to people directly, it even. And by the way, even in a race like that came down to about, you know, under 20,000 votes, it still took a sizable number of activists to come in. So if you want to scale that up for something like an entire state like New Jersey, tire state like Pennsylvania, it is going to simply take more bodies. Is it effective? Yes. Does it work? Yes, but only at scale. Do you get what I'm saying?
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Totally. So what it is is it moves away from the war of persuasion model. We don't need to be spending time and money talking with swing voters about how they should vote to recall Julie because she got involved with a presidential level type of Benedict Arnold behavior. That's not going to work. Our ballot chase model goes to people who we know are conservatives. They just don't value their vote, especially for a fall off year race, if there is such a thing. And we help them realize that, build a relationship with them, and then turn that relationship into a new vote. That's ballot chasing at its finest. And I think what last night really proved is that ballot chasing works and that building a ground game heavily based on this concept of relational organizing is truly the new way to winning elections.
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What is relational organizing? Explain that for us.
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Well, it's the idea of not being a political operative, but being a good neighbor. And so it's really start to finish. It's building that relationship. And that might take multiple touches. So we had to on the fly, train a lot of our volunteers and our paid staff at Turning Point Action to make contact with voters and then kind of massage it into them about the importance of voting. And then here's the key, and this is what really separates ballot chasing from just transactional door knocking. It's the very important follow up in the Republican apparatus. And I'm not just talking about the party, I'm talking about in the historical Republican apparatus. Follow up is not encouraged. Think about every door knocker that's ever been at your door. It's very issue based. What issues do you care about most? And are you voting for so and so? No. Okay, I'm moving on to the next house. Our ballot Chase model encourages them to say, you know, hey, can I shoot you a text tomorrow just to make sure that you get your ballot in the box? Or hey, can I help you fill out your ballot? We'll walk out to the mailbox together. Right now, it's doing those extra steps. I was giving people a ride to the polls yesterday to drop off their ballot. That's ballot chasing. It moves away from that very kind of one and done one size fits all model. And it moves to a very human element type of political operative.
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And this is so key, by the way. It's so key to actually building that out. And I have to, I have to imagine, by the way, when, when people see the Turning Point name, when they see Turning Point action, especially given the events of the last couple of months, you know, they definitely creates a different environment than, than when somebody's just showing up with like a hard candidate name or something like that.
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It does. And kind of the thing that really separates our universe of voters, meaning the pool of voters that we're knocking, is that we were only knocking on conservative voters. So we already had an icebreaker right off the bat.
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So you've already got the icebreaker right there. Brett. Sorry, apologies, apologies. They're telling me we're up against a hard break. Go give him a shot. Turning Point Action. Huge victory over there in Mesa, Arizona, not far from where I'm sitting right now. Right back Human Events Daily. Jack is a great guy.
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He's written a fantastic book.
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Everybody's talking about it. Go get it.
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And he's been my friend right from.
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The beginning of this whole beautiful event. And we're going to turn it around and make our country. Amen. All right, folks, Jack back live here. Human events daily Phoenix, Arizona. Unpacking so much of what happened last night in 2025. By the way, the Human Events editorial board has just released, and this is such an incredible, absolutely incredible editorial that's come out just now, and it says the 2025 elections are an indictment on conservative leaders who are more focused on infighting than winning. And it reads, what good is our media infrastructure if we just use it to put each other on blast and not to advocate for the causes we need to address and advance to save the United States of America? And we talked about the lack of republic conservative pundits mentioning the races, the lack of conservative pundits getting into this, the lack of conservative pundits to highlight. J. JO Many of them did, but many of them also did not. And so we're looking at all of this and we're trying to figure out, you know, what went on here. And we've got to, we gotta call balls and strikes. And there was a huge failure, I think, from a lot of people in conservative media to focus on other things, particularly infighting rather than these elections. Wanted to bring on my good friend Josie, the red headed Libertarian, to kind of unpack some of this and unpack these elections. Josie, how's it going?
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Good, how are you, Jack?
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Well, I want to get your take on that right there. So we're, we're, we're dipping our toes in it and saying, guys, are we focused on infighting or are we focused on winning? What do you think?
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I think that the infighting has become a huge problem. And I had actually was thinking about it, I'm like, you know what? The coalition that got President Trump elected was a ragtag band of misfits. So it was maha, it was maga, it was libertarians, it was, it was just, it was all of these people who sort of came together for a common goal. What we're seeing right now is this neocon versus griper war for the soul of what we did, for the soul of our party. And these people didn't really do anything to help us to begin with. Most of them were never Trump or they got inside with Kamala, yet they're now fighting with each other and demanding all these other people pick a side or they're anti American. And this isn't something that we should be focused on at all away from helping with these elections. That it was, it was just a, the Democrats just won them all. So it hurt us more than it helped us when we could have come together for the common goal of getting more Republicans into, into these, these seats. And by the way.
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Yeah, and look, you know I've, I'm, you know, I'm not going to say that I haven't gotten involved in like e drama or stuff like that before but, but guys, it's election time. When it's election time, you put that stuff on the sidelines and you come out and you focus on getting out the vote. That's the entire point of politics and political coalitions is winning. And so losing is never a victory. Losing, getting taken down, getting deplatformed, etc. Those are examples of a losing fight, a losing momentum. And so, and look, by the way, I'm not going to sit here and say that, you know, and say that this is the end of the world. Right. These are blue areas. And I always made sure to put that into context for everybody that we are attempting to see if we can, if we can play in these areas, if we can put up victories on there. And to me I'm just going to say it, it looks like the old school candidates, the classic, the legacy, the non populist, the non trumpy Republicans lost that. They just don't, didn't have what it took. But there's a big question now, I think with the Mamdani victory about socialism. And I think a lot of this gets into gen and I keep talking about it. Charlie Kirk talked about it on his final interview with, with Tucker Carlson. He said if we do not improve the economic conditions of Gen Z, they are going to go full Mamdani. Well, guess what? He was exactly right. That's what happened last night. Are we seeing the rise, Josie, of cultural Marxism in America's greatest city?
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Yes, but also there's, there's only five states that have races on odd years. And so I think something like that is, is why say Kentucky has a blue governor when they're clearly a red state. So I think that Republicans don't really get out and vote on these odd years when they should. There's not as not there's not enough excitement about it. They're lucky honestly to get out and vote for the midterms if they're not really excited about somebody. So I think that Republicans need to really get their head in the game when it comes to that. Because if we're not fighting back against this cultural Marxism, it is the biggest threat. The cultural Marxism is a bigger threat than anything. So I do believe that there is some kind of rise that is happening that we're seeing. Because these kids, a lot of them were just empty during 2020-2021-2022-2023, when we were in the pandemic. And they really just want to get behind something. Young kids need a purpose, this, to fight for something. And they're seeing that, well, we're all being disenfranchised because of reasons that you and I both know are related directly to socialism. But they think that more socialism and more communism will fix them. So they're like, oh, well, I can't afford things, but hey, this guy's going to give me free buses and free rent and free daycare and redistribute the wealth of the white people. And these people are holding me back. But if I vote for this guy, then, yeah, this is, is, this is great. And I think a large part of that is the failure of public school. But I believe that that was the way that it was supposed to be. Like, this is what they had intended and it's working just as designed.
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Well, and I used this phrase last night on Fox News. And you know, some of the, some of the folks or guys are, that's, they're like, jack, that's a little, that's a little. You know, they weren't sure how to go with it online. But I like, look, look, consider the audience, right? I said, look, Mamdani won. The Madani model was because of the mass importation of gimmick grants. This ide going to bring people in who are not, not like the settlers, not like the founders, not like the colonists who came and actually built New York City. By the way, if it wasn't Europeans who built New York, why is it called that? Then you turn around and people who are just coming now because they want the government dole, they want free stuff that is not the same thing. But if you have a party that says, wait a minute, we can achieve political prowess through this by bringing in people who want to vote themselves the free stuff from that is paid for, of course, by the people who built this country and built New York City, then they're going to use it as a political tool. This is what Elon Musk was talking about when he went on Joe Rogan. And by the way, it's what Zoram Mandani was talking about up on that stage last night, the mask fell off and even Van Jones admitted it.
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Well, I think that settlers, settlers come here and they build. Immigrants come here and they add. And then migrants and illegals they come here and they take. And this is what we're seeing, we're seeing mass taking right now without, without adding almost like I deserve this for whatever reason because they've been, there's this victim oppressor lens that school is, is preached through and media is preached through. And so when people learn anything about our history, learn anything about what's happening now, there has to be a victim and there has to be an oppressor. And they usually align themselves with the victim because the only option is the oppressor. And who would want to be that? So what we're seeing right now is the embracing of victimhood led by this communist. And I'm really scared for New York. I, I don't know what's going to happen when they have a 115 billion dollar budget and I mean 65 million of that he's going to put towards trans and kids and punishing hospitals that don't trans kids. There's, the priorities are like handing it to a toddler and like, and have them spend it all on ice cream. It's, it's nothing responsible about this. He's never proved himself to do anything like this. So there's New York we're kind of getting, you know, I think it was, you said it, the mayor of London right here in New York.
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Yeah, it's, it's, it's our, it's America now has our cdcon. I mean this is like, like I'm just gonna say it. It's like giving a loaded weapon to a toddler. When, when I have kids, you have kids, you understand. They don't know the awesome power that they've been given. And when kids are really little, you know, the vast majority, not all, but the vast majority, they're selfish. I want to play with the toy now. I want this now. And growing up and getting older and becoming more mature means that you understand and learn how to respect others and live in a society. Mandani's totally not interested in doing this. He's completely immature. And last night he's, he's more than happy to laugh at this country, to play Bollywood songs and he knows what he's doing. He's poking at the foundations of this country and he's laughing about what's going on. That's all the time we have on the show. Josie, we're going to get you on next time for longer. Where can people follow you?
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Follow me on X trhl official I'm the redheaded libertarian and also head over to Tim cast.com Become a subscriber over there and help support our work.
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Work.
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Great work as always, Josie, the redheaded libertarian. Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay ashore.