Podcast Summary: Jack Posobiec LIVE From CPAC Hungary

Podcast Information:

• Title: Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec
• Host/Author: Human Events with Jack Posobiec
• Episode: Jack Posobiec LIVE From CPAC Hungary
• Release Date: June 1, 2025

Introduction & Setting the Stage

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec kicks off its June 1, 2025 episode live from Budapest, Hungary, at the CPAC Hungary conference. The episode features an engaging dialogue between Steve Bannon and Viktor Orban, focusing on the state of democracy, the influence of the deep state, and the resurgence of populist movements in both the United States and Europe.

Donald Trump's Resurgence and Electoral Success

Steve Bannon opens the discussion by highlighting the remarkable political comeback of Donald J. Trump:

"Donald J. Trump will return as President of the United States of America. And I'm here to report back that yes, not only has he returned, he won the popular vote. He won seven out of seven of the swing states. He won the Electoral College, the Senate and the House of Representatives and survived two assassination attempts when he did so. So I think he's outperformed all of our wildest expectations."
[00:41] Steve Bannon

Viktor Orban acknowledges this achievement, reinforcing the notion that common sense is making a comeback in governance:

"Well done. And back two years ago, the main topic of the discussion was common sense. And as we see, common sense probably started to come back to the United States. The high time that it comes back in Europe."
[01:20] Viktor Orban

Common Sense vs. Wokeness in Governance

The conversation shifts to the contrast between "common sense" policies advocated by populist leaders like Trump and Orban, and the prevailing "wokeness" that Bannon criticizes as "nonsense":

"President Trump has common sense and wokeness has nonsense."
[02:03] Steve Bannon

Orban elaborates on the challenges faced by right-wing governments in implementing common-sense policies, often encountering immediate denial and resistance:

"Whenever a conservative right-wing government comes and starts talking common sense and start working for the people, they immediately start denying everything... their way and their approach to governance is not of the people, not by the people and not for the people."
[02:41] Viktor Orban

Critique of the Deep State and NGOs

Steve Bannon delves into his critique of the "deep state," NGOs, and the influence of figures like George Soros in undermining democracies:

"This is the George Soros model of government... it serves the NGOs, it serves the Soros level, it serves the bureaucracy level, the special interests, the corporate level, the multinationals, but it doesn't serve the people."
[04:16] Steve Bannon

He argues that this model leads to an oligarchic system where true democratic sovereignty is eroded:

"If you have a civil society program in your country, you must shut it down immediately... These are the greatest threats to actual democracy in our nation."
[12:29] Steve Bannon

Orban concurs, emphasizing Hungary's strict laws on foreign political funding and the backlash faced when implementing transparency measures:

"By Hungarian law, it's strictly forbidden for political parties to receive any kind of foreign money... When we started to introduce new measures... you see this outcry."
[08:18] Viktor Orban

Sovereignty, Transparency, and Institutional Reform

The discussion moves towards the importance of national sovereignty and the need to reclaim it from unelected institutions:

"Sovereign rights of the leader should derive from the people in a democracy... if that sovereignty instead is given away to, say, courts, academia, unelected experts, unelected bureaucracy, well then you don't have a democracy at all anymore."
[06:00] Steve Bannon

Orban highlights Hungary's efforts to maintain transparency and autonomy in politics, countering foreign influence:

"The United States has long-standing and very strict laws on transparency... it's very easy to talk to you... What do you suggest is going to be the agenda for the upcoming year in the United States?"
[11:19] Viktor Orban

Social Media as a Tool for Democratic Engagement

Bannon praises the role of social media in bypassing traditional media gatekeepers to speak directly to the populace:

"Social media has been incredible and I'm very supportive of everything that Elon Musk has done to free speech... you must shut it down, ban it, take all of its assets and completely dissolve it."
[12:29] Steve Bannon

He advocates for leveraging platforms like X (formerly Twitter) to dismantle the entrenched power structures of the deep state.

Future Agenda for the United States and Europe

Looking ahead, Bannon expresses hope for the spread of populist nationalist movements across Europe, citing leaders like Nigel Farage and Robert Fitzo:

"I certainly hope that the populist nationalist revolution that has been headed by President Trump in the United States... spreads across all of Europe... remind the people of Europe of the essential truth of our people that Jesus Christ is our king and that God must return to the very center of our way of life."
[14:18] Steve Bannon

Orban echoes this sentiment, emphasizing the importance of elected policymakers and the responsibility they bear:

"Decision comes and goes with those actually who've been elected... they bear the right, the mandate, and they bear responsibility. And that's what is missing in today's European world."
[08:18] Viktor Orban

Conclusion & Closing Remarks

The episode concludes with mutual affirmations of aligned goals and a commitment to continue the dialogue:

"As always, it's been a pleasure talking to John Forsab and I hope we'll be able to meet next year."
[15:03] Viktor Orban

"Take care. Thank you for being with us. You have a great day."
[15:12] Steve Bannon

Key Takeaways

1. Resurgence of Populism: The successful return of Donald Trump exemplifies a broader global trend of populist and nationalist movements challenging established political structures.

2. Common Sense vs. Wokeness: Leaders like Trump and Orban advocate for policies grounded in "common sense," positioning them against what they describe as "wokeness" and bureaucratic overreach.

3. Deep State and NGOs: There's a strong critique of the deep state, NGOs, and figures like George Soros, accused of undermining genuine democratic processes and sovereignty.

4. Sovereignty and Transparency: Emphasis on reclaiming national sovereignty from unelected institutions and ensuring transparency in political funding as pillars of true democracy.

5. Role of Social Media: Social media is seen as a crucial tool for bypassing traditional media biases and directly engaging with the populace to foster democratic engagement.

6. Future Outlook: Optimism for the spread of populist nationalism in Europe, with hopes that similar movements will reinforce democratic values and national identity.

This episode of Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec provides a comprehensive discussion on the challenges facing modern democracies, the role of populist leaders in addressing these challenges, and the strategies proposed to counteract entrenched institutional powers.