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Live From The White House - “No US Troops On The Ground In Ukraine”
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Caroline Levitt
Here in our new media seat today, we have Jack Posobic, who joined us in Anchorage, Alaska, last week. Jack, thanks for being here.
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Jack Posobiec
Why don't you kick us off, Caroline, thanks so much. So a couple of questions regarding the status of these peace talks. Obviously, we saw the president and President Putin there in Anchorage. We saw the world leaders here yesterday with this summit. We've heard phrases like coalition of the willing. We've also heard Article 5 like guarantees. When it comes to the security guarantees. What is the current status of that? I know the president earlier today mentioned boots on the ground would be uk, France, Germany, possibly, but unequivocally said no US Troops on the ground but US Coordination. Can you elaborate on that and what would the red lines be?
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Caroline Levitt
Sure. Well, you got to the heart of what I was going to say to all of you today on security guarantees, which is the president has definitively stated US Boots will not be on the ground in Ukraine, but we can certainly help in the coordination and perhaps provide other means of security guarantees to our European allies. The president understands security guarantees are crucially important to ensure a lasting peace and and he has directed his national security team to coordinate with our friends in Europe and also to continue to cooperate and discuss these matters with Ukraine and Russia as well.
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Jack Posobiec
Caroline, now, have the Russians responded at all? I know he spoke with President Putin last night. What has been their response? Because we've heard some reports from the Kremlin and others saying they're unequivocally against NATO troops on the ground.
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Caroline Levitt
Ms. Well, look, the president continues to have these conversations with both leaders. Those conversations took place in Anchorage, Alaska, again yesterday with the Europeans, and President Zelensky, and TSU has directed his team to come up with a framework for these security guarantees that can be acceptable to help ensure a lasting peace and end this war.
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Jack Posobiec
And then just last question, real quick on this regarding some of the funding. We're hearing questions about another round of weapons sales or possibly a round of U.S. purchases of Ukrainian drones. Will that money be funded by the US Taxpayers? Are we finally going to see an end to the US taxpayer funded seemingly endless mandate for these foreign wars?
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Caroline Levitt
Ms. Well, the President is very sensitive to the needs of the American taxpayer and immediately upon entering office back in January, he made it very clear that we're not going to continue writing blank checks to fund a war very far away, which is why he came up with a very creative solution to have NATO purchase American weaponry because it is the best in the world, and then to backfill the needs of the Ukrainian army and the Ukrainian people and their military. So that's the solution the president has came up with. We'll continue to see that forward. As for any additional sales, I'll have to defer you to the Department of Defense.
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Jack Posobiec
Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition here of Human Events Daily. We are live at the White house. Today is August 19, 2025 Anno Domini. Want to thank Caroline Levitt for allowing me the opportunity to sit in the new media seat yesterday, earlier today, just a few moments ago at the White House press briefing and having that opportunity to ask some very serious questions about what's going on here in the White House. And in these discussions, very high level discussions, high stakes, as President Trump stated earlier regarding the United States, Russia, Ukraine and potential security guarantees. One of the things that I really tried to drive home on this was, number one, will US Troops be on the ground? President Trump, I know, spoke this morning about that and said unequivocally, no US Troops on the ground. But at the same time, he mentioned something about US Coordination. And so what would that mean? What would that look like? I've talked before about a potential Syrianization of the Ukraine conflict whereby in NATO's forces or coalition forces would come in. That is something that the president spoke about earlier today. And I also questioned the press secretary Levitt about this UK German, French troops, will they be on the ground in Ukraine to provide a sort of security guarantee and if so, by the way, will the Russians agree to this at all? Because as these conversations go, these are all proposals that do not do not merit any weight until, of course, they can be agreed to by the Russians. That is the biggest part of it. And president understands this as well. That's, of course, why he decided to take the time yesterday, cut the meeting early and Then go and get Vladimir Putin himself, leader of Russia, on the phone to discuss this. In addition to a potential bilateral meeting, a sit down between Zelensky and Putin directly that would precede a trilateral meeting of the three leaders, President Trump, President Putin, President Zelensky, and of course, the final question that I asked while I was there, will this mean an end to the era of endless US taxpayer funded mandates for these endless wars overseas? Because the American people, this is something they voted for in 2024. We see it every single day. They keep asking why, oh why are we spending tens of billions of dollars on wars all around the world protecting borders that are not ours and, and ones that do not have a direct interest for the American citizen. Of course, we've now seen with this administration deployments to the southern border, deployments of now the US Navy and a task force there in Southcom. That was one of the other topics that came up, this idea of moving back towards a hemispheric defense. And Caroline Levitt also confirmed that more than likely that money would be coming from either the EU or, or from Ukraine in some capacity. These EU nations, allowing them, as President Trump has always said, to pay for their own defense. One of the only other questions, if I'd had a chance to ask a fourth question, but that's how it goes in the format of these discussions, I would have, I would have potentially brought up this idea that's been floated regarding a UN resolution, would it be possible for people asking regarding a permanent security framework, would it be possible for a UN Security Council resolution to be brought up, enshrining all of these peace deals and security guarantees so that it lasts even long after President Trump is out of office. Jack Posobic, we're here live at the White House. On the ground. Human events daily. Right back.
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Caroline Levitt
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Jack Posobiec
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Michael Knowles
Great to be with you, sir. I, I think I recognize that building behind you. I think. Have I seen it before?
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Jack Posobiec
No, no, this, this is actually just a set. So we've constructed an elaborate set for my show with due to my exacting.
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Michael Knowles
Standards, just like Joe Biden. I remember that they pretended Joe Biden was in the Oval Office. That's good. I'm glad that you could have a similar setup.
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Jack Posobiec
We got it. Basically we got it at a fire sale. They said they were trying to get rid of it because Joe Biden's there. But don't worry because we performed an exorcism before we set foot on it.
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Michael Knowles
That's good. Very wise. I think actually the last time I saw you at the White House, you may have, you may have even rosary checked me. I said I can't quite recall but that would be fitting.
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Jack Posobiec
I definitely rosary checked you. And in fact my Rosary is just out of reach right now in my bag because I took it out of my pocket so I could go on air. But, Knowles, we're talking about the rosary because we're praying today. President Trump made reference to this earlier that so much of this choosing peace over war, it really is a spiritual choice, isn't it?
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Michael Knowles
Of course. And not to get too into the weeds on everything, but the Alaska summit took place on the Feast of the Assumption of Mary. Mary who now for 100 years, we've, you know, recognized that she will play a role in the Christianization of Russia. Prayers throughout the Catholic Church for Russia to be consecrated to Mary. So, you know, I know for our friends out there who are Protestant and Jewish and irreligious, this all sounds probably kind of wacky. But to the Catholics in the audience, the timing seems providential. And Trump does seem like the President for peace. I mean, the guy has a very good record on this. How quickly we moved from the Alaska summit. Trump and Putin both left early. They didn't even have lunch. And so people thought it didn't go well, but the. The press conference seemed to go well, and they didn't get the ceasefire, but they are moving forward with then the meeting with Zelensky and the European leaders. And all of this reads to me as if Trump wants to get a deal done fast, and he might very well do it well.
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Jack Posobiec
And not only that, but one of the things that I noted, and, you know, my wife Tanya, being Orthodox, so we're mending the schism here, is that normally the Catholic and Orthodox calendars, they don't quite match up. So even though we have many of the same feast days, it's not usual. You know, people know their Christmas is on a different date, their Easter is on a different date. However, for whatever reason, I haven't dug into it so completely yet. As it turns out, the Russians, who are all Orthodox that were coming on the delegation, and it was also the Orthodox Feast of the Assumption, in addition to being the Western Feast of the Assumption. And I was thinking this is incredible because this hardly ever happens. And in fact, Putin went and met with one of the Russian Orthodox leaders in Alaska because that's one of the legacies of the Russian empire having control of the Alaskan territory is there's a ton of Orthodox. In fact, the Inuit up in Alaska, a ton of them are Russian Orthodox. They because of this. And so it's very interesting timing with both feast days lining up.
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Michael Knowles
You know, there's a great line, all nature is but art Unknown to the all chance direction, which thou canst not see. So, you know, we believe that Providence governs all of history. And sometimes it's a little clearer than at other times. But, but I'm just taken by what, what President Trump said to Emmanuel Macron when he was caught on that hot mic. He said, I think Putin wants to do a deal with me, as crazy as that sounds. And I love both sides of that statement because he's clearly trying to wrangle the Europeans and Zelenskyy. But he seemed totally sincere and he said, look, you know, I went there to Alaska, and I think Putin actually wants to do a deal. I know that sounds crazy. The Ukraine war has been going on for 11 years, and we've been in a Cold war with a little bit of a break with Russia since the 1940s. But I think he wants to do a deal. And so, you know, if they can wrangle this, if they can really make it happen, Trump will be the greatest geopolitical president of my lifetime. Probably, probably even edges out George H.W. bush, which is a guarantee that he will never, ever get the Nobel Peace Prize.
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Jack Posobiec
Well, and that's exactly what I asked about in the press conference just now, because people want to take a step back and say, okay, he's done this deal. He's done this deal. He's got this, the Congo and he's getting, getting Rwanda involved and all these, you know, far flung leaders, bring him Azerbaijan and Armenia, the oldest Christian nation, by the way. Armenia and so many others. But what it really constitutes is this idea, the promise that he made, which I do believe is in many ways a spiritual promise, to say we are going to end the era of the endless wars, in addition to that, the endless funding by the US Taxpayer. It's a total difference of philosophy that the United States isn't going to be this sort of global empire where our job is to go around and sort of demand how every country in the world is going to interact. And instead, we're going to be a good actor. We're going to have these trade deals, we're going to use that economic basis to hopefully you know, ensue good action from our various compatriots in the world. But it's totally different than using the bayonet, as you just mentioned, with George.
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Michael Knowles
W. Bush, and, and even, by the way, when for the people who don't want to go all the way toward a firmly nationalistic view of US Policy and, you know, pulling away from our intervention in the rest of the world, even on a purely imperial basis. It would probably be a pretty smart idea for the United States, which, which has to counter a growing China to maybe triangulate a little bit and maybe try to split Russia off of China, because the consequence of the Biden policy was to push our two clearest geopolitical adversaries to further together. That poses economic dangers, that poses strategic dangers, security dangers. And then also from the reporting, again, we don't totally know what's real at this point, but we're also being told that Putin has agreed to Western security guarantees in Ukraine. So, you know, all of the Panicans, as Trump called them, said that any Trump deal is going to threaten American hegemony, threaten the global order, sell out Europe to Putin or whatever. It seems like none of that is coming to pass. And if you think, as most Americans seem to, to think that four years under Biden and before the first Trump term, eight years under Obama had left America weaker and more vulnerable, then I think the only option is to pursue a different course. Trump is doing it and he seems to be having a lot of success with it.
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Jack Posobiec
I think that's right. Now, before we run the break, we have a couple of minutes. I got to ask you this. There's President Trump started another debate raging online this morning. I hear there's some mainstream media articles being written up about it because he said in an interview earlier today that he hopes that he can achieve peace because he wants to get to heaven if he's able to save a lot of lives. Michael Knowles, is he talking about a works based justification for salvation?
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Michael Knowles
Of course. You know, leave it to the conservatives and the Christians never to be able to take yes for an answer. But I tell you, after living through.
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Jack Posobiec
Years and decades of it's this classic.
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Michael Knowles
You know, materialist secular atheist nonsense. And you have a president who's speaking in religious terms. And by the way, this isn't the first time. And for a guy who came within 1/20 of an inch of having his head blown off in Butler, that does make you think about the final things to realize that this man who is a symbol of luxury and material abundance, thinking about maybe going to heaven, I think that's mighty fine. And we don't need to worry about the heresiarch Pelagius. We dealt with him about 1700 years ago. Let's let President President Trump keep on cooking.
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Jack Posobiec
I think it's exactly right. In fact, it's funny because I'm not going to name names, but I brought it up even here at the White House. I said, you know, because I know that we've got sort of the, you know, people who say, okay, well, that's totally fine because you're from the Catholic background or an orthodox background, but then you've also, you've got plenty of evangelicals and mainline Protestants and others here say, well, hold on a second. I think you have. Salvation only is enough to get to say, all right, guys, all right. That's who he's getting into. Jack, you were justified by your works.
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Michael Knowles
Not by faith alone. Faith without works is dead. I, yeah, I don't know. I'm reminded, I don't know that all this scripture is going to be debated in the West.
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Jack Posobiec
Is that from, is that from some book? I'm not. No book. Somewhere in there.
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Unidentified Supporter/Fan
Hey, you know, they talk about influence. These are influencers and they're friends of mine. Jack. Where's Jack?
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Joe Lavornia
Jack?
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Jack Posobiec
All right, Jack Posobec, we're back here live from the north lawn of the White House. We're on with Michael Knowles. And you know, we're talking about this, this comment that President Trump actually made earlier today regarding will he get to heaven by saving lives, by stopping wars, and how this has kicked off a theological debate. And it perhaps is fitting because Michael Knowles has a new docu series out, all about the secret Vatican files of World War II. And I believe we have the trailer. Let's play it now.
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Michael Knowles
History is written by the victors. But what if the victors got it wrong? For 80 years, the world has condemned one man as the Pope of silence, the man who stood by in the face of shocking evil. But can we trust the popular narrative even after all these years? This is not just a story about Hitler and the Holocaust. One of the worst lies ever told about the Catholic Church is what she did or did not do in one of modernity's darkest hours. Now, for the first time, the Vatican secret archive is open. And the truth is far more shocking than the fiction. Propagandists have peddled one story for decades, but now we can definitively know better. Join me in this four part series where we will discover the true story of Pope Pius xii, Hitler and the Second World War.
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Jack Posobiec
This is wild. Michael Knowles, you've put together the docu series. Walk us through how this came about and why you decided to put it together now.
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Michael Knowles
Well, Jack, we all know that the news is fake a lot of the time. And if, if you think the news is fake, just wait till you see what propagandists have done to history. You know, there is A man, the Pope During World War II, Pope Pius XII, one of the great men of the 20th century, who is probably the most smeared and calumniated, slandered man of the 20th century century. He has been accused of being silent in the face of Nazism, of being even complicit. Some propagandists have called him Hitler's Pope and it's just not true. It's ridiculous. He's one of the great heroes. He stood firm. Hitler considered him his personal enemy. As he wrote to Francisco Franco, Pope Pius XII saved many, many people, including many, many, many Jews. So much so that the Chief Rabbi of Rome after the war converted to Catholicism and took the name Eugenio, which is Pope Pius XII's name, before he became Pope. So this man has just been lied about in some of the most horrific ways. We have a four part series to set the record straight, in part because we have a new Pope, we have an American Pope. For the first time, Catholicism seems to be shockingly on the rise, especially among adult conversions. So this is very much of the moment. There's a return to faith, questioning of historical narratives. And so we want to get, we want to get the facts out there. And just this morning I saw there was a piece in the Times of Israel, Shmuli Botaik, who is this kind of wacky rabbi, I hate to malign rabbis by associating Shmuli with them, but he came out and he accused me and the Daily Wire and Ben Shapiro of rehabilitating a Nazi collaborator. He's just furthering the calumny. It shows you how widespread this false belief is. And so I encourage people to go join Daily Wire plus because they can get the full story, they get all the facts. Because if you don't know your history, you're not going to know which way your country or civilization should be going.
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Jack Posobiec
Well, I think this is great and it's definitely something where you know, especially Pope Pius. I know for a lot of traditional Catholics, he's someone that a lot of people will point to because he really, even as a Polish guy, of course you know nothing but love for JP the two but pose Pius XII was really someone who came in on a lot of the hot button issues and for people to look at this and say this is pre Vatican ii, this is pre a lot of these modernist changes that we saw with the church and who. Someone who spoke with incredible clarity on moral issues that we are still wrestling with to this very day. And so I really feel like a lot of the smears and a lot of this campaign went against him because they don't want people looking beyond all that to see who the man actually was and what he stood for, certainly.
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Michael Knowles
And not only did he speak and write with clarity, but he acted with clarity. And I think something confusing about Pius XII when we look at our modern age of TikTok and clicks, is that the man did not just showboat all the time. In fact, in his prudence to defend the innocent, to defend Christians, especially to defend Jews, or in Rome and throughout. Throughout Europe, sometimes he had to act in silence. And he. He suffered a kind of a martyrdom in a certain sense. His reputation was maligned because he was acting behind the scenes furtively. He was wise. The chief political virtue is prudence, and that certainly saved many, many lives. But he didn't get the credit for it. Well, now the Vatican secret archive is open, and so historians are able to look at these documents. The story is clear as day. The propagandists are liars. The calumny against Pius came from enemies of the Church, notably from the Communists. And we see all sorts of lies about our civilization, about the Church today. So we need to be sure that we're very clear about this and we can look ahead, because this is not just merely looking back to the 1940s and the 1950s, but this is about looking ahead to where our civilization will go if we are to survive.
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Jack Posobiec
Wait a minute, Noel. So you're telling me that the textbooks and the newspapers are totally against the Pope, Pius xii, and that the Communists of the time were also against him? So then that belies the question, who's in charge of our media right now? And who's been writing these textbooks?
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Michael Knowles
Yeah, it turns out that the historic enemy of the Church, the Communists, one of the. There were multiple villains in World War II. The Communists were certainly up there. It turns out, you know, they remain enemies of the Church, but not exactly a man bites dog. But unfortunately, propaganda does have a way really, of working. And so we need to see clarity here, because even in the lead up to World War II, you can see Pope Pius XII then. Eugenio Pacelli was a diplomat in Germany, so he saw the rise of Hitler. He knew Hitler's number early on. And Pope Pius xi, his predecessor, wrote Mit brunendo sorge to counteract the rise of Nazism. He wrote it in German to spread it among the German people. But, you know, Hitler very likely wanted to kidnap the Pope and possibly kill him. Wrote that he would, or rather said to Goebbels, goebbels wrote that he would destroy the churches in Germany. So, you know, you have one enemy of the Church coming from one side. You have this other enemy, the Communists coming from the other. And you have this one man standing alone when everyone flees Rome. The king of Italy, Mussolini. And here is Pius xii, standing firm and standing for the truth and doing a lot of good and saving a lot of people in the process.
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Jack Posobiec
Now, we're just about out of time. Tell people again where they can go to get that. Daily Wire Plus.
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Michael Knowles
Only place to go. Daily Wire Plus. You all have to come over so that I can beat Walsh and Shapiro on their subscription numbers. We need to make Pius XII the big show.
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Jack Posobiec
Pius xii. I'm definitely going to be checking that out. Michael Knowles, thanks for joining us. Once again here, Human Events. They'll be right back live from the White House through America's Voice.
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Unidentified Supporter/Fan
And Jack. Where's Jack? Where's Jack? Where is he? Jack, I want to see you. Great job, Jack.
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Jack Posobiec
Thank you.
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Unidentified Supporter/Fan
What a job you do. You know, we have an incredible thing. We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys, and these are the guys who'd be getting public.
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Jack Posobiec
All right, Jack Posobic, we're coming to you live right here from the steps of the White House, the front lawn, north lawn of the White House. Very excited now to be joined, I would say, sitting down with. But where we are standing as it is. But that's okay, we can handle it because we're, you know, we're on the right side of this thing that we're sitting down with. Joe Lavornia, he is the counselor to Secretary Scott Bess. And Joe, thanks for joining us again.
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Joe Lavornia
Jack, My pleasure. Thanks for having me.
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Jack Posobiec
Me now, I have to say, incredible thanks to Secretary Bessant as well as the rest of the White House team for allowing me to accompany them on this really historic trip to Anchorage to sit down with the Russians. Then, of course, Secretary Benson playing a key role in the meetings yesterday with the European leaders. What can you tell us about how the secretary's office is looking at all of this in terms of the economics of peace?
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Joe Lavornia
Well, as Secretary Bessen said, Jack, the president, who works tirelessly, is the hardest working person alive. I don't know how, if he sleeps, if he does, it's trade deals, peace deals, tax deals, it's all of the above in the US Having to be a very strong economy. As Secretary Benson said, national security and economic security are intertwined. The president has made clear he wants an end to this horrible war, this horrible situation. And he's a phenomenal negotiator. And I think the Secretary, like many others, are optimistic that we're making a lot of good progress and fingers crossed.
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Jack Posobiec
Well, it certainly seems like it and very rapidly too, because here we are. Yesterday was just 48 hours after that meeting on Friday. And by the way, you mentioned the President's work ethic. We land at Andrews Air Force Base and it's, it's 2:00am, I believe, D.C. time, so Eastern standard. And we're all waiting to get off, we're all suited up and then we see the Secret Service sit down. And I'm looking, we're looking around and saying, why is the Secret Service sitting down? Isn't it, you know, time to go? And I say, if those guys sit down, they probably know what's going on. And then Caroline comes back and says the President is on the phone with one of the NATO leaders and he doesn't want to have to hang up and call back. So we are going to wait. We ended up waiting there for about even after going all the way to Anchorage and back. He's now, at this point, I think worked about 19 hours straight. He's still on the phone at 2 in the morning. And we sat there for about another 45 minutes.
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Joe Lavornia
Pretty awe inspiring. And that story I've heard in many different permutations many, many, many times over. So it's.
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Jack Posobiec
He'S, you know, he didn't give me too much, but he said it was a good meeting, it was a good meeting. So I appreciate that. And at the same time, though, kicking back to more on the domestic front, you and I have been talking about this really blue collar boom that's been going on. What are you seeing in the numbers today that have changed between the last time we spoke and now?
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Joe Lavornia
Well, you know, a couple of things that the President ran on are very important. One was the border and the other is getting the cost of living down. Both were in crisis situations since President Trump has been in office. The annualized inflation rate is less than 2%, 1.9% annualized, which is incredible. The price of eggs down over 20%. Gas down over 20%. Food prices barely up. Rents are declining. These are everyday items, goods and services. You know, what you paid, you know, your grocery bill, your how to heat or cool your home to live in a home or a rental, whatever it might be. All those costs have come down dramatically. And that has caused Jack, real wages. You take your wage rate, adjust it for inflation, cause your real wage rate to expand. So in the first seven months of the President's term, we've had the second biggest gain in real wages, blue collar wages in particular on record, eclipsed and only by a smidgen. President Trump 1.0. So with this one big beautiful bill passed that Secretary Bessant worked very hard on with fulfilling the President's vision, we're going to get faster productivity, we're going to get faster nominal wages, especially with less illegal workers. So there's no more artificial depressant to the market wage rate. So you have low inflation and you have rising nominal wages. So your numerator for those, your math.
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Jack Posobiec
Going back to Mr. Carrado would be, would be making sure I'm following this one.
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Joe Lavornia
Your numerator is going up at the same time your denominator is going down. And all you need to know is that US Households are going to do great.
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Jack Posobiec
Well, you know, and it just, even on a basic level, I had a family member who posted the other day said, couldn't believe, here it is the middle of summer and gas is under $3 a gallon and we're talking in some of the high priced states. That's something that hasn't been seen in a long time because usually you think that it's in the middle of summer, gas is going to be way up over $3,350 close, you know, maybe even getting close for under $3 with, by the way, without having to do any of the releases of the Strategic Petroleum Reserve that Biden was doing and everything that he was trying to have, the injection of capital, etcetera, to really cook the books, I think, on a lot and juice the economy. We haven't seen any of that. This is actually doing the hard work both legislatively and economically.
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Joe Lavornia
Absolutely. I mean, President Trump, I'm sure put a lot of pressure on OPEC to increase production. Markets are forward looking. So oil producers are anticipating much friendlier regulation that doesn't crimp and destroy their businesses. You have all this absurd regulation in the previous administration. So the markets reacted positively. For example, Jack, back in January, before President Trump took office, oil prices are above $80 a barrel. They're now in the low 60s. That's incredible. And that's the direct result of President Trump's policies. And the best part, again is that we just passed this one big beautiful bill which had a lot of energy investment and permitting and other incentives in it. So we've yet to reap those benefits. That's still the forward. So kudos to the President, it's really just a wonderful situation.
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Jack Posobiec
Well, and certainly you mentioned price of oil. That obviously carries a national security component as well. When you talk about Russia, when you talk about Iran, why are these countries as powerful as they are? Well, it's because they are petroleum exporters and because they are key members of OPEC. But with Russia having the price of oil down $60 a barrel, Iran down to $60 a barrel, they aren't able to fund their external operations as much. Russia, of course, also facing the sanctions, but the possibility, the real possibility of these secondary sanctions, China, India and others that are still purchasing that petroleum. This has been a huge, I really think, a huge backdrop to a lot of the security discussions that have gone on.
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Joe Lavornia
Absolutely. And it just shows you how forward thinking President Trump is. Being a businessman, he knows how the real world works. It reinforces what Secretary Bessen said about national security and economic security. Lower oil prices, it's great for US Business and also doesn't fund all the terrorism and all those other horrible activities that those high oil prices we had over the previous four years actually winds up accomplishing.
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Jack Posobiec
It's truly amazing because of all the things that you saw that Biden tried to pull out in terms of we're going to send, you know, more backing for, for armaments and we're going to send these billions and those plants. You never once saw Biden look at it from an economic perspective and say, well, if we lower these prices, it's not only going to be better for the American people, it's also going to have this component as well. And I have to imagine that's something that the secretary. I know for a fact that that's something the secretary, he's told me is, is indelibly thinking about on a regular basis, because that's been one of the things. I remember the last time we had the secretary on the program here. He specifically said that national security takes up almost 50% of his portfolio.
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Joe Lavornia
That's right. Yeah, it's, it's amazing. You think about it, the old expression, common sense. Isn't that common?
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Jack Posobiec
Yes.
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Joe Lavornia
We saw over the previous four years, you're seeing the president take a very pro us, pro growth set of policies that he was elected on in a landslide to basically improve the livelihood and safety of all Americans. And we're seeing that. And Secretary Besson has been excellent in, you know, putting that agenda forward and getting it implemented. And, you know, thank God we're in the position we're in right now.
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Jack Posobiec
Well, and that's something that I Actually had the opportunity to ask the press secretary just now, moments ago, right before, before we started the show regarding this funding. So there's a lot of weapons components, a lot of things that we're asking about these, how the peace deal will go forward. But one of the things I asked was, and I think we've heard a little bit about this, but this idea that will the US Taxpayer be still held on the hook for so many of these outlays to the endless wars? And I think that's something that President Trump has come out and said. Absolutely not. Caroline Levitt said the exact same thing. He is going to look for any possible way to get this done and as President Trump likes to do back when he was a businessman, to get it done without having to pay for it.
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Joe Lavornia
Yeah, but, and Jack, he's been, he's had these views for, for years and years. This, these aren't just fly by night views. These are beliefs that are very dear to him. He cares about the sanctity of human life. What's happening is horrible. He wants a solution. And he's incredibly thoughtful fallen, as you alluded to earlier. To say he's a tireless worker is an understatement.
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Jack Posobiec
They think that's exactly right. Moving back to, by the way, and it just, it just drives me hilarious thinking about this because the price of oil is down, we're seeing jobs numbers in a great spot, inflation down. Nobody talks about the price of eggs anymore, although that was a refrain that was brought up here at the press speaking room over and over and over in the early days of the administration. The other component that we're seeing to all of this is the idea that, that general prices are at least down or stabilized to the point where people are now being able to afford living better. Are we also seeing that from I would say business leaders? You and I talked about the capex numbers the last time we were on. Are you seeing that trend continue in particular small business?
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Joe Lavornia
You're seeing a sharp recovery in small business sentiment and that's important, Jack, because small businesses account for 40% of all jobs. A lot of its mom and pop operations and the large businesses that we have, that we're very proud of ultimately started small businesses. So yes, you're seeing sentiment improve dramatically on the business side. In fact, perhaps the equity market best reflects that. You're seeing booming stock markets because people are incredibly confident in President Trump's policies and how he's stewarding the economy. And, and I would think that that sentiment is going to lead to Much faster GDP growth, faster employment and as you alluded to, the inflation rate is.
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Jack Posobiec
Joe, quick, quick break. We're going to take a break here, but I want to get back on that specifically regarding small business. Right back. Jack Posobic, Human Events Daily. Real America's Voice live at the White House.
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Unidentified Supporter/Fan
Is a great guy, written a fantastic book. Everybody's talking about it. Go get it. And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event. And we're going to turn it around and make our country great again.
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Jack Posobiec
Amen.
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Unidentified Economist/Analyst
Obviously the tariff itself is paid at the port, but what if the producer in the other country has lowered their price, the 10, 15, 20% so that there is no price change with the tariff. And obviously our largest trade deficit is with China and China does not have the same profit objective that other western democracies do. So that is an employment agency. And my view has been that they would continue to eat the tariffs. They are doing that. So I think what we've seen is likely to continue happening. I also think there are probably a lot of corporate margins that got very fat during COVID and now we're seeing a return to a normal pre Covid margin.
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Jack Posobiec
All right, Joe, So there is Secretary Bezin. He's discussing the tariffs and really the fact that the, the results of the tariffs have not been what was so loudly warned about. And the word panic in has been used a number of times by the White House. The panic has not happened. In fact, what Secretary Bessen says there is clear this is being eaten by China, it's being eaten by the, the producer. They are the ones conducting the export. And whereas the United States, our stock market has been booming, the S and P just, just came out, reaffirmed our credit rating and specifically cited the tariffs in doing so. What do we account for all this?
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Joe Lavornia
President Trump highlighted, Jack, that it wasn't going to be a factor. And Secretary Bessen said it as well. So they were correct and very anticipatory. We are generating record amounts of tariff revenue. The July numbers put us on track for about 300 billion for the calendar year, maybe more. The CBO Congressional Budget Office did not score that because it's technically not part of current law. But they said it could raise almost 3 trillion. If the economy grows at 3% in line with what happened during President Trump's first term, that's an extra 4 trillion in revenue. So if you take a strong growth backdrop, that's the hallmark of President Trump's past and you take the tariffs, the budget Outlook can look excellent, Very, very positive. The rating agencies, one of them today, at least, sort of highlighted that. But they're generally pessimistic. But it's good to see them kind of coming back more back into reality. And you're correct. The tariffs have not had an effect on measured inflation. As I said earlier, the inflation rate has been 2% since President Trump took office. Things like automobiles, which are very sensitive to tariffs, those are actually down over 2% since the tariff collection started to pick up in earnest back in April. So President Trump was exactly correct. The exporter, these countries are absorbing the bulk of these tariffs. And President Trump was proven right again.
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Jack Posobiec
And so while this is going on, you just mentioned, and let me, let me put this all together here, because you just mentioned that small business, their attitude is actually becoming far more positive. When we were told originally that the tariffs were going to destroy small businesses.
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Joe Lavornia
No, not at all. I mean, you have a continuation of the 2017 Trump tax cuts. You have the no tax on tips, and over time, that will increase labor supply, reduce tax on seniors. That may help lift their participation rates. It's all about producing more of the goods and services that the economy wants. Because President Trump as a businessman knows how the real world works. And if you help small businesses, which are the backbone of hiring, they will thrive. The tariffs are important in incentivizing foreign companies and countries to allocate capital to the US You've seen that in the trillions of dollars of money coming back in. They've got low tax rates, they've got pro growth, proper business regulatory policies. In other words, the administration is looking to help business, not hurt business, because if you hurt business, you hurt the people that work there. And you've got low and abundant, low and abundant, or I should say cheap and abundant energy prices, which is important in terms of producing things. So it all works together cohesively. And that's why, Jack, if you look at the data under President Trump's first term, small business sentiment, their optimism had never been higher under any president, Democrat or Republican, than it was under President Trump's first term. That's going back 40 years. And there's no question with President Trump's policies, again, you're going to see a similar euphoria.
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Jack Posobiec
Well, and it just flies in the face of what we were told was the conventional wisdom. I remember people blowing up regarding tariffs saying, there's no possible way this is going to work. It can't be done. And it seems, though, that the difference here is that. And by the way I'm just going to say it. This is one of the reasons that you're seeing in places like New York the rise of politicians like Azora Momdami, because he's speaking to people that have been caught in so many economic tailwinds, especially Gen Z and younger millennials, that they want to tear the entire system down. Whereas what President Trump is offering is a way to raise the, the floor so that it brings everybody up rather than having to tear anyone down in the process.
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Joe Lavornia
That's exactly right. I think New York is probably a unique case, but if you look at the President and how he performed last November, he did extraordinarily well among working class voters, African Americans, Hispanics, his numbers went up significantly by historic amounts where he didn't pull all of the elites who have in the globalists who basically wrong on almost everything, if not everything.
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Jack Posobiec
Well, it's exactly right. Because who does this hurt? This hurts anyone. If you're in that business, if you're in the business of selling out the country, if you're in the business of importing these products, you're in the business of cutting down, outsourcing American jobs, shutting down American factories, all the rest of it, yes, then that would potentially hurt you a little bit. But it turns out that that is a tiny sliver of people and the vast majority of people do not fall in that bucket.
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Joe Lavornia
Jack. The American people are smart. Thank God there's more alternatives than the mainstream media that existed, you know, a handful of years ago. And they know. And to the extent that the experts, the so called experts are wrong again, they're going to lose more and more credibility. There's other outlets, such as, such as your platform that people get great information from and eventually they'll become more and more relevant. Meaning, you know, the so called experts.
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Jack Posobiec
Well, I have to say again, just very grateful to the administration, administration for the access they've allowed our network, Real America's voice and even myself personally, being able to travel alongside the delegation on Air Force One on Friday, even being brought into the White House yesterday for that multilateral meeting and then today to be in the new media seat, something that, and that. And you guys over at Treasury, I mean you've had us on more than anyone. And I have to say it's, it's really something that the administration will never ever get credit for just being so transparent. And to anyone out there, I'll even just say if you've got a blog, if you've got a YouTube channel, if you've got a Big social media account. Just go ahead and reach out to the press office and see if you can come in on a day pass. I guarantee you you'll probably get one.
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Joe Lavornia
Jack. President Trump has three words for it. The golden era.
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Jack Posobiec
The golden era. It really is as simple as that. Joe, thank you so much for joining us here today. Human Events Daily here at the White House. Folks, we are so excited to have been here today. We're so excited to have been here on the spot. I'll take it, I'll take it from here. And folks, just, just wrapping up the last couple of days that we've seen the Anchorage, the Joe's got to run there, but the Anchorage Accords. People asking so many questions about where that's going to go for the American people. People asking where it will go for the Ukrainian people. Will there be US Boots on the ground? Ground? This absolutely being a key question. But I also wanted to tie it to the economics, both when I was in the White House during the press briefing earlier today, as well as talking with Joe Lavornia, who is of course the counselor to Secretary Bess and the Secretary of the treasury. Because there's a money angle affecting all of this. How much of our hard earned taxpayer dollars are going to be funding anything that comes forward after this? People have seen one of the key reasons that President Trump was able to win the election is because people would turn on the news or fire up social media. Every morning they scroll their phone and see another 10 billion to Ukraine, another 20 billion to some foreign country in the Middle East. Billions and billions of dollars that was not going directly to the United States, directly to the American taxpayer. And of course, we understand, understand how this works. We do not have an unlimited supply of money, regardless of what the Federal Reserve thinks. So there are only a few ways to get it. You can print it, you can tax it, or you can borrow it. And the idea is, of course, you're not gonna be able to get rid of the federal government. All right? So my libertarian brethren out there, sorry, it's probably not gonna happen. But the best way to deal with it, the very best way to deal with it is of course to do so in a, to, in a proper governance method. Good governance. Good governance, that means governing for the people. Are the people benefiting from this? The widest array of people? Because we look at. I was on War Room this morning talking about Zora Mandami. You're either going to get MAGA or you're going to get Mandani. Folks, this is Jack Fasobeck signing off here at the white house. Thanks again to the real America's voice team for supporting everything that we've done over the past few days. Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay ashore.