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This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobic. Christ is King. Shocking details out of the Chicago area. A judge says they have lost track of hundreds of people who were placed on ankle monitors, all while facing pending criminal cases. The total number now thought to be at nearly 250 people. More than a dozen people are facing charges tonight in connection with the human trafficking and drug distribution ring operating in Central and South Jersey.
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Burlington, Camden, Ocean and Middlesex counties.
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The U.S. supreme Court vacated the Mississippi legislative redistricting case. This led to a few districts being redrawn last year.
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The case sent back by the high court on Monday has to deal with
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the legislative redistricting maps lawmakers passed in 2022. The Mississippi voting Rights Act Rapid Response
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Coalition doesn't approve of the ruling. They say, quote, today's order is a deeply troubling abuse of judicial power, end quote, unquote.
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State Senator Tyler McCon says the ruling
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by the Supreme Court that race can't be used as a deciding factor when drawing maps is the rule of laws.
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Congressman Thomas Massie lost his GOP primary in Kentucky to former Navy SEAL Ed Gallerin, a candidate very aggressively backed by the president. More than $32 million was spent on
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this primary by groups aligned with the president, but also organizations that support Israel have been trying to defeat the congressman for years because of his opposition to aid to Israel.
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But ultimately, this contest is just the latest reminder.
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If you're a Republican who crosses President Trump, you will pay the political consequences.
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I would. I would have come out sooner, but I had to call my opponent and concede and it took a while to find. Ed Gowran in Tel Aviv.
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Thomas Massie was ousted in Kentucky, losing to President Donald Trump backed challenger Ed Galrain. It was a test on Trump's hold
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Similar to Louisiana's primary, where Trump's candidate
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Also in Kentucky, Representative Andy Barr won his primary bid to succeed retiring Senator Mitch McConnell. Barr secured Trump's endorsement to defeat Nate Morris, a pro Trump businessman who won the last political endorsement of late conservative activist Charlie Kirk before he was killed in September. Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard. Today's edition of Human Events Daily here live on Real America's voice. Today is May 20, 2026 Anno Domini. So everybody's talking about Kentucky 4 Thomas Massie race. Thomas Massie gets primaried. Thomas Massie loses. Loses. But I think it's like, what, 10, 11 points. Big, big swing. And a lot of people are trying to talk about all of the different things that went into this primary. People are talking about the influence of AIPAC and the influence of foreign interests in, in our elections. People are talking about whether or not any Arab nations played a role in this. People are talking about Jewish donors, people are talking about Muslim donors. People are talking about all sorts of things when it comes to this race. But here's something that I want to caution everybody on, because I see a lot of people extrapolating so much from this, but not actually understanding what, what's going on under the hood. Congressional elections are complicated business. They always are, they always will be. In every congressional district. There are parochial as well as national issues. Okay? Now, there's no question, all right, there's no question at all that President Trump's endorsement of Ed Galrain and AB Seal was a huge influence. President Trump and I tweeted this. President Trump is solidly the leader of the Republican Party in the last few weeks, have absolutely determined that, as if you didn't already know. Okay, it's just a case you didn't know that the big dog in the Republican Party is Donald J. Trump. Just, just in case you weren't sure. But here's something that I do see a lot of people saying and one analysis or one hot take going on that I think we need to be careful with, because people are saying, oh, X isn't real life. And Twitter isn't real life. Social media isn't real life. Podcasters aren't real life. Influencers aren't real life. Is that true or is that not true? Well, I do think that the Internet can have an effect on real life when used properly or in the right situation, the right circumstances, when you have something that actually breaks out and goes mainstream. Some things do, some things don't. And that depends on the quality of the message. It depends on the timing, it depends on a lot of things. But also I want to be very clear that if you go and look at the demographics of the. On that primary, Thomas Massie won every demographic under 65, won every single one outright. So does this also mean potentially a future shift for the party is in the works in terms of some of these big questions? Questions about Israel, questions about foreign involvement, questions about where we are as a country? Pay attention to this, pay attention to signal. But also remember, this is a closed primary, about 100,000 people. This does not determine the entire mood of the nation. There's a closed Republican primary. So what does that mean? Independents can't vote. So if an independent can't vote, then that means that someone who left the party, which we have seen a lot of in recent years, many people who are maga have left the party in recent years. They can't vote in a primary. Only registered Republicans can. This is key to understanding that you want to learn from these elections, especially primaries, but take it all with a grain of salt and really look under the hood to examine what's going on when you're reading those tea leaves. Jack Posobic, Human Events Daily. Rue Marker's voice will be right back.
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This is Human Events with Jack Posoba. Now it's time for everyone to understand what America first truly means. Welcome to the second American Revolution. All right, folks, Jack Paso. Look back live here, Human Events Daily. Real America's voice. We're very excited to, to be sitting down with Senator Ron Johnson yet again here on the program from the great state of Wisconsin. Senator, how are you?
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I'm doing great, Jack. How about yourself?
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No, doing, doing well, though. In the break, we're just talking about how the pollen, the pollen's getting to me, but I'm fighting back. I'm, I'm using my, all my, my good MAHA methods. I'm fortifying. I'm, I'm taking the vitamin C, I'm taking my zinc, I'm taking my B12 and whatever else, whatever else my wife, who's an incredible MAHA mom, is, is setting up for me in the morning.
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Oh, just toughen up. That's what I told my kids.
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Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Now we're going to fight back. It'll be good. Senator, I did want to get in, though, because I saw, you know, some of the stuff that you've been putting out recently regarding the filibuster, regarding the Save America act, and these have all been things that we're hearing new reports from the White House. I'm hearing a lot of chatter that the president is starting to get. I'm just going to say it. He's starting to get pretty fed up with some of these signature issues and the failure to get them across the finish line. You've been talking about it as well. I wanted to get your take to chime in on what exactly is the hold up, what's going on? What are the dynamics at play?
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Well, the main holdup is Republicans recognize that at some point in time we'll be in the minority again. Might be in 2027, let's hope not. But at some point in time, Democrats were on the table and we're going to want the filibuster to make sure that we can stop them from destroying this country with their awful legislation. The split in our conference is between those of us who are 100% 50 or 150% sure that when Democrats do round the table, they will end the filibuster. I have no doubt about that whatsoever. But I've got a lot of colleagues in our conference who first of all are reluctant to vote to change the rule, basically giving the Democrats that tool versus those of us. And again, they also are talking to Democrat colleagues who now are coming up and saying, well, you know, we're kind of reluctant that we voted to end it last time. No, they're not. They're literally just playing those senators. So again, you've got the legitimate concern about not having the filibuster when we need to block their legislation. I'm just facing reality that they're going to do it anyway. I mean, a party that opened up our borders to accomplish their goal of turning America into one party nation, you know, flood sanctuary cities, plus up the census, get more members of Congress. They will end the filibuster to turn D.C. puerto Rico to states, pack the Supreme Court, nationalize elections. They're going to do that. Kamala Harris just basically said that's exactly what their goal is. So, you know, unfortunately, it's pretty late. I agree with the president. When he started calling for this late last year, we should have done it then. At a minimum, if we do it now, we can pass the Save America act and help secure the 2028 election. Probably pretty late in the game for 2026 to have much of an impact. But again, you just have to recognize that reality. The analogy I used another program is you say you're sitting around a table and there's a murderer on the other side of that table. And there's a gun right there. Now, you certainly don't want to push that gun to that murder, but you better take it yourself to defend yourself. Right? And that's kind of the. We're at the end stage here. This is a moment of truth. This is not the Democrat Party of our parents and grandparents. JFK would probably be the most conservative member of the Republican Senate conference today. This is a bunch of radical leftists. They want to impose radical leftism, socialism on this country. And we know it destroys nations, civilizations. I mean, it's destructive to. But that's what Democrats want to do, and they are absolutely determined to do it. They treat politics as a blood sport. They do not recognize any rules. They will change whatever rule they need to change for them to acquire and maintain power.
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Well, Senator, I mean, to your point, one need look no further from Washington, D.C. than down to Richmond, Virginia, that the minute the Democrats took power there and in the governor's mansion as well as the State House, they immediately cast off any of these notions of moderation or. People are joking. Thank goodness Spamberger's a moderate. Could you imagine if she were governing as a radical? No. They were throwing out all sorts of legislation. They were practically banning guns. And, oh, by the way, they tried to redistrict the entire state with, by the way, the full force of the. Of President Barack Obama, the titular leader of the Democrat Party, going all in on this. They were trying to redistrict all of Virginia so that Northern Virginia would control every congressional district of the majority of congressional districts in the state. That's how they play ball.
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Well, Jack, here's a news flash. Democrats lie. They are enormous hypocrites. But they have the mainstream media in their back pocket. They're never held accountable. So they can just lie and be hypocrites with impunity. Again, I'm not saying some Republicans aren't hypocrites or some don't, but nothing to the extent of what Democrats get away with. They do it with impunity. So they do it all the time. So it doesn't surprise me when somebody runs as a moderate. They all run as moderates, but then they govern as radical. The radical leftists they are. Or they certainly vote with the radical leftists that propose the legislation that they support.
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And so if that's the case, and we've heard Democrats like AOC and others go through this laundry list, as you say, of trying to pack the court, being willing to get rid of the filibuster being willing to make Puerto Rico a state which we know would be a Democrat state, that's two senators, that's a governor, that's Congressman, and potentially, I guess, three electoral votes that would go to the Democrats. And then if as, as Republicans, what's the best way to respond while you have the chance?
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And the filibuster, which is what I've been pushing, again, the reluctance on the part of many of my colleagues, again, they're engaged in wishful thinking. They don't want to be accused of destroying the Senate. Turning to the House. I mean, again, they've got this fantasized version of the Grace liver body. I mean, this place is so broken. You know, they are saying, well, it's a slippery slope. Well, we're at the bottom of that hill, that slippery slope. There's no 60 vote threshold on any nominations anymore. That took us three bites the apple to eliminate that reconciliation. We're pushing it way beyond the bounds of, I think, anybody who designed the stupidity of reconciliation or you can do this, you can't do that. You got to burn. You know, it's just, it is the most byzantine set of stupid rules ended. Just, just end it. You know, it's not going to be end the world. There's not one state that requires a super majority vote to pass all legislation. There are some super majority votes required to pass increased taxes, which is a good idea, but otherwise states function that way. The difference between the states and D.C. though, is states by and large have to balance their budget. That's the real problem with the federal government is we don't. And so we've got a bunch of people here whistling by the graveyard doing bipartisan deals on appropriation bills, spending money we can't afford. Okay. And then when they do those bipartisan, and they're all proud of it, by the way, I mean, you had to be inside the conference. Oh, this is 100% bipartisan. Everybody voted for this ick. Just a great big ick. But they get, they forge those relationships and then they actually believe the Democrats who lie to their face. 35 Democrats signed a letter with Susan Collins a couple of years before they voted to end the filibuster, pledging not to end the filibuster. 35 of them then basically all did it. And now the ones again, they're just playing my colleagues for fools if they say, oh, you know, we regret that. Well, we're not going to vote. Yes, you will. You will absolutely vote. And the filibuster, because you want to acquire and maintain that power and turn America into one party nation. That's their goal.
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It's been the goal from the very start. And we've heard the President say in public and in private many, many times that it's time to just start fighting with fire. With fire.
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And again, what I suggested President Trump when he first proposed that, and I agree with him immediately to end the filibuster, I said, Mr. President, you have to lay out the important piece of legislation that have 70, 80% of support of the American public that we know we can pass with slender majorities. He end up with about a laundry list of about 30 things. And again, that was months and months and months ago. Yeah, we're pretty late in the game here. It's not too late to pass the Save America act again to help secure the 2028 election. I don't know how much impact it'll have on 2026. Again, it's getting late in the game, but if you want some hope here, we didn't have at the end of last year, we did not have the votes to end the 60 vote threshold on nominations. It was only because Democrats were so obnoxiously obstructionist that President Trump was getting probably get less than 900 or less than 500 of his nominees confirmed when generally presidents get about 1100 confirmations. In their first Congress, he was even get 500. So Democrats were so obnoxious, all of a sudden, all 53 Republicans, who again the same group were very reluctant to do it, they all voted to end the 60 vote threshold nomination. So I'm not saying it's impossible, but we're going to need a far more concerted and far more strategic and a much better sales job on the part of the President to end the filibuster.
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No, I think that makes sense because you're right. When you talk to, I think the average American out there, you say, oh, what's the filibusters problem? And they view that almost as, you know, as the senators kind of, or just politicians in general sort of shirking their duties. What do you mean, the filibuster? I liked you to go do stuff, go do it.
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And by the way, that's so the filibuster. Just understand it wasn't part of our Constitution and it was passed in, I think 1917. It was only used five times. You know, a super majority threshold was only used five times in the first 50 years. What's happened is it's evolved into just basically ending debate. You don't even engage in it, it protects Sanders from taking tough votes. And so that's why I said at a minimum, what I would call him, Leader Thunderdunk. And it's not his fault that he doesn't have the support to end it. But at a minimum, he should call a vote on a rule change. That'd be at a 67 vote super majority. That's how you change the rules in normal procedures and at least get the Democrats on record. Now will, will they honor that when they get a chance? I don't think so. But at a minimum, do that, you know, put your vote. And we always get told here, you know, it's part of our jobs. Take tough votes and then both sides shield their members from tough votes all the time. And that's really what the filibuster has been used for, is now we're just all shielded from taking tough votes, from actually being that delivered body where you put a piece of legislation on the floor and then actually vote on amendments, try and improve the piece of legislation. It's all, it's all preordained. It's all cooked. It's, it's a massive charade. The Senate Congress is a massive charade and the filibuster allows that charade to continue.
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Senator, one second. Because I want to dig into that a little bit more over the break. Jack Wisobic. Senator Ron Johnson, Human Events Daily. Today, you know they talk about influencers. These are influencers and they're friends of mine. Jack.
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Where's Jack?
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Jack?
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He's got a great guy.
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Well, again, each one of these races is different. I mean, each one does indicate, you know, the kind of control that President Trump has over his base and can turn them out. But I agree with you. I listened to your opening there on, on the Kentucky race with Thomas Massie. What I would caution the White House and his political advisors to recognize is 45% of hard Republicans, people who really support us, who voted for President Trump, 45% of them didn't listen to President Trump's endorsement. And let's face it, I think I'm Tea Party more than Republican. Truthfully. There's a pretty strong libertarian streak in most conservatives in many Republicans. So I think we ignore that. Again, Tom Massie, there are a lot of things I respect about him. He's a very intelligent guy. I think you, you start dismissing him or dissing him at your own peril because he had 45% of the support of people who really supported and loved what President Trump is doing as well. So, yeah, again, it is, it's way more complex. You have to look at these things not in such a simplistic manner.
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No, I think that's exactly right. Because when, when you look at, people want to extrapolate so many things from this. But again, it's, it's a Republican closed primary. I'm from Pennsylvania, also closed primary state. And so people, I think, can take a message from a primary race, especially in a closed primary, but then miss the fact that there are so many independents out there that really will shift things. In terms of a general, I know Kentucky is a state like this. I know Wisconsin is a state like that. Most of the Rust Belt states, Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania are all like that. And so I would just caution anyone, the White House or media, whoever it is, to really look under the hood and understand the dynamics here.
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Well, remember, when you defeat somebody like Thomas Massie with that 45% support, again, you don't want to diss those people. You want them to come out, back out and unify and get behind the eventual candidates. So, again, you need to be gracious in victory. You need to recognize that the people that voted against whoever you were supporting or whatever your position was, particularly in primary, you've gotta get those people back on your side. So, yeah, I mean, there's no doubt about it. President Trump is certainly showing his influence over our party. But when you take a look at how Tucker has turned on him and other people, I mean, there are people, legitimate concerns about what's happening in Iran, fully support what President Trump's doing. I view Iran as an existential threat. There's a big chunk of our party who is not particularly happy with that. There's an even bigger chunk that is really concerned about gasoline prices. I do hour long telephone town halls every week. Three quarters of those things is talking about gas prices. Okay, Those are realities that you cannot dismiss. But by the way, same thing after the 2020 election, in our Republican conference, after President Trump lost, I cautioned my colleagues who said, be very careful. Do not diss the people or the person that President Trump's supporters, they love this guy. Don't be dissing the guy that they love. That's not a very smart thing politically. And I think that's what got an awful lot of people in trouble.
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And I think that's exactly, I think that's exactly correct. And it's a story of competing influences. President Trump has the biggest influence in the Republican Party. There's no question about that. There's no debate about that. And certainly after the past couple of weeks, I would caution anyone who thinks that that is a. That thinks that that's a viable path. I mean, certainly you would disagree on issue to issue. There's no question about that. But when it comes to this, outwardly trying to run, you know, run against him, I don't think it works. But when people are looking forward to the general elections of this year, when people are looking forward to the general election mood of the country when it comes to 2028, I do think you have to put more of yet more of the complicated nuance into the equation.
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We need to unify as a party is a movement against the people who are trying to destroy this country. We're not the enemies. I mean I don't care who, I don't care who just got feed in one election. Those individuals are not the enemies. The Democrats, the radical left are destroying this country. So again, we are excellent at engaging circular firing squads and eating our own. We need to focus on the real perpetrators of the damage being done in this country. We're just trying to clean up their messes and then we argue over we haven't cleaned it up fast enough. I mean all these messes that President Trump is trying to clean up, those are all created by Democrats. And then when we in fight, when we engage in circular firing squads, we let them off the hook. They sit there and start blaming high prices on us. You know, no, it's, it's their 40 year high inflation, it's their weakness. And force President Trump to act while we still could act. So again, anybody who's part of the movement, Republican, whatever, we're a bunch of entrepreneurs, we have different ideas, we have different priorities. Independent thinkers unify all of us is they, they want to turn this into one party nation. They will destroy this nation. They are destroying this nation. They are destroying this nation. This is the moment of truth. We need to stop them.
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Senator Ron Johnson, thank you very much. We're honored always to have you here on the program. Right back with Tyler Boyer and Jack. Where's Jack? Where's Jack?
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Where is he? Jack, I want to see you. Great job, Jack. Thank you.
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What a job you do.
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You know, we have an incredible thing.
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We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys
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and these are the guys who'd be getting police.
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I don't regret it. I hate them. That was the last straw. I forgive him for so many things, but screwed me up so much. Beat me, you name it. So, so
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what, what did you use to kill your parents then?
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Is it the same gun that you
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had when you surrendered to the police?
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Yeah, that was Colin Mia Bailey, a trans shooter who is arrested and has been accused of shooting his parents. Shooting, killing his parents, also shooting at his brother. And this happened back in June of 2024. But one thing that struck me as very interesting was not just the person, not just the crime, but also the location, because I found that this was Washington, Utah. Washington City, Utah. And what struck me as so interesting was that Washington City, Utah, the same town of about 30,000 people in southwest Utah, is also the hometown of Tyler Robinson. Tyler Robinson, the shooter or the alleged shooter of Charlie Kirk, which was also a transconnected act. Want to bring on Tyler Boyer here. You know him as COO of Turning Point Action, my friend, Charlie's friend, but also someone who is very familiar with this community. Tyler, how are you?
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Good to see you, Jack.
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So, yeah man, I, you and I have just, you know, been going through it, trying to put all the pieces together and then I see this thing pop up out of the same town as Tyler Robinson. And I think what is going on in the water up there? What is, what is the situation? I threw up a tweet about it. You, you had some thoughts and I, I, I just, I knew I had to pick your brain. So I've said, hey, come on the show.
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Yeah, I mean at this point, Jack, it's, I think the numbers are running. It's like one out of every 4,500 people in the city of Washington are likely to be murderers at this point. And so there's definitely something weird going on.
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I mean this is not just, not just general crime like actual targeted killers,
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like this murder, specifically trans induced murder. So I mean, look, I mean this has opened up the conversation in Utah where you know, a lot of people are starting to have that conversation of how soft has the LDS community got specifically on the trans issue, where it's actually enabled violence in the community. I mean Washington, let's be like super clear, Washington is not a huge community. It's a, it's a relatively small community. Yeah, I think it's something less than 20,000 people somewhere in that ballpark. It's at best suburban, you know, very suburban, quiet community, very religious again in the Utah hemisphere. And you're seeing this type of radical violence come up and there's causes for this. And so the conversation really has to be is like, what's causing this? Who's not stopping this? What is not being done in the community? And is this happening in other places that, you know, where there's unsuspecting good people with violent criminals being harbored, you know, next door to you.
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I remember there was something that you told me once when we were chatting about this, the other incident and I was talking about how does someone from seemingly a conservative LDS family, gun owners, seem very tight knit community, seem like good parents. And again, in this situation. You see that as well. And you told me something that when some people leave lds, they kind of run in the other direction. Do you. Do you think that that could be one of the dynamics that we're starting to see?
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Yeah, I mean, we've seen this, not just in the LDS faith, but in many others, is that when you're from a very orthodox community, whether it's an orthodox evangelical community, orthodox Catholics, Catholic community, you know, an LDS community, there's societal pressure that's there. And so I think the mistake that can happen is when you coddle people who are mentally ill too much and you say, oh, no, it's okay, and you start creating programmatic ways that they can live and, you know, become, again, radicalized and, you know, you know, really have vile rhetoric against the people that they grew up around and that. That love them, that, you know, that raised them, even even though they don't clearly don't agree ideologically with those people anymore. Sometimes it can turn into this, which is people who become so angry and they have the freedom to essentially mow down people that they love, individuals that they believe are the. The root cause of. Of their pain, which, of course, we know that's not the case. And so for these individuals, I think the mistake that's being made in these communities is, again, that the community is going way too soft and not taking the type of action that's necessary for people who are deranged and mentally ill and not catching the signs of those things as they're culminating. And some of this is just being ignorant of. Of ignoring the facts that are in front of your face. I think some of this is societal where it's. The community is driving this community. Think of very similar to white guilt is people have this. Are made to believe that they have this LGBTQ or trans guilt where it's like, oh, well, again, we caused these problems, and so therefore, we should allow the. Them to do whatever they want to do, you know, as retribution for their feelings, so they can go out and, you know, and there's a lot of connections here to what we saw. And just a few a few years ago, you know, with the Summer of Love, where people, you know, in white guilt just were like, oh, we have to let people just riot and loot and destroy our cities because, you know, it's really our fault. And there's unfortunately, some people who feel this very same way, especially in the wake of these murders, of saying, oh, well, you know, it's not totally their fault. No, that's. It's it is totally the independent individual who's making these decisions and killing people. And it should be addressed and should be figured out how to, how to prevent these things and not, not, you know, set to the side and, and okayed and, and have eyes just batted like, oh, well, this is a community problem. It's not a community problem. This is, this is a very much an ideological radicalism problem that's happening in your own community, just all around 100%.
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And in fact, if I understand correctly, I believe the Blaze or some folks at the Blaze are actually trying. This is something I'm going to pick up as well, are actually trying to dig into the schools there to try to determine whether or not these two individuals went to the same school system and if so, what sort of things, grade school, elementary school, high school. Were they being presented from those schools that had to do with this very issue? Were those things being presented at an early age? Because guess what, we've seen that all over the country in a variety of districts and typically. Yeah, you wouldn't, you certainly, I wouldn't associate that with Utah, but to your point, they are infiltrating schools all over the place with this radicalism.
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Yeah, I mean, the terrifying part is, you know, after this, a, after, you know, this person committed these violent acts, you know, the news and the local media were still referring to him as a, as a woman. We're still, you know, more concerned about, you know, clearly his feelings and the trans community's feelings than the act that that was committed. And again, this is, this is in recent reporting, the last number of days. This is following the, the murder of Charlie. And so there's a real problem here that needs to be addressed. And again, I don't want to target Washington alone because it's not just this isn't a problem, this is a problem that's happened in Washington, but it's, it's clearly happening in a lot of places where, to your point, there can be one bad apple of a handful of people, a network potentially of people who are enabling this type of behavior. It doesn't take very many bad people to motivate other bad people. And you mentioned this, they're both, they're not the exact same age, but they're in a similar age category here. They're not that far apart. And so, you know, that type of thing needs to be figured out because that can become a case study and also something that people look for or watch for or correct in other school systems or, you know, in other communities, wherever that may have stemmed from, to prevent future violence from radicalists that have become so radicalized in this trans ideology that we've seen that very clear. Yeah, absolutely.
A
Or hopefully. Hopefully. You know, you create a system of indicators where schools or counselors or faith leaders, whoever it, parents, you know, when they see these indicators pop up that someone is on one of those paths that you can intervene and get them off that path before it ends up turning into something like this long before again, this is about preventative measures. Right back. Jack Bosobic. So we're going to call this the Jack Posobic Appreciation Hour. I can say confidently, I believe, I think Josh Shapiro would be the vice presidential nominee if it wasn't for Jack Posobic. And that is I'm. Human Events Daily. We're on with Tyler Boyer, the COO of Turning Point Action and Teller. I got to say, you know, I'd be remiss if I didn't have you on this week to talk about all the incredible successes of Turning Point Action, not just in the last 24, 48 hours, but really the past couple of weeks. When you look at what's happened in Louisiana, which looks happened in Indiana, and then of course, the state of Texas with, with Ken Paxton. Talk us through how you're looking at things shaping out as we're moving and the redistricting as we, how we're moving towards, towards November.
C
Yeah, I mean, Jack, things are going very, very well. We were pleased to be one of the first national organizations to endorse Kim Paxton in his race. Got some grief from that, from a lot of establishment cronies. And it paid off dividends because, you know, we believed in Ken from day one. He's, he's a good man. He's been a friend to the organization for some time. And conservatives in Texas are tired of this Bush era weak need give up before you get started type politics in Texas, and more importantly at the national level, you need guys like Ken Paxton who are actually going to fight to be in the U.S. senate. And it wasn't just Ken that one big yesterday with the president's announcement, which we're so glad it's better late than never, but incredibly grateful to the president for making that because there was a ton of pressure being put on him to endorse Cornyn all the way, especially when Cornyn, you know, kept it competitive in the first, first election before the runoff. But in Georgia yesterday, we saw a huge day again for another U.S. senate candidate, Mike Collins. Mike has not been endorsed by the president yet. I Think, I think there's a good chance that he will be in the runoff. But he was endorsed early by Turning Point Action. Our team in Georgia has been helping him. We've been helping the Trump endorsed candidate for, for governor, Bert Jones, who is a great conservative as well. They both had great days. They weren't able to break the 50% threshold, but they're well on their way for the runoff in Georgia. Huge, huge, huge days for the team. And you mentioned Louisiana. Huge to knockout a massive rhino out of the U.S. senate. So, I mean, we are trending towards a possibility here of having, you know, basically a plus three where you have kind of a waffly, terrible situation, either Democrats or Democrat light in the US Senate. That is a huge, huge culture shift in the Republican conference, if we can be, if we can get, get the job done this November.
A
No, I think that's right. And certainly, look, you know, the Democrats, if they, you know, and if they want to put money chasing Ken Paxton in Texas, then guess what, that's money that they're not going to have to spend in Georgia, in Maine, in North Carolina, et cetera, et cetera, Michigan, you know, all these other places. So I keep hearing these people saying, oh, well, you know, now we have to fight harder, we have to spend money in Texas. But actually they do as well. So if, you know, that's, that's the nature of competitive races, go ask Kentucky 4 about that. Right. Last night about how that money works in elections. So the idea, you know, I think is kind of silly. And plus, James Talrico just is not a strong candidate. I think everybody realizes that who's looking at the race. But you know, actually, Tyler, one of the things that I wanted to touch on you is when you look at, we're basically seeing two sitting senators getting primaried in the same year. On the Republican side, we've also seen President Trump express his frustration with the Senate leadership with the Senate conference. You know, just looking at the tea leaves, not asking you to weigh in, but do you think, as I've said on this program, that John Thune may not be long for the Senate majority position?
C
Yeah, I mean, I think you're right. I mean, it's a huge failure for John Thune not to be able to get the Save America act done. I mean, this is, this is one of the easiest things that you could possibly ever get done. And that's basically what's led to this point. And I want to remind everyone, Ken Paxton actually proved how legit he is when he came out in a statement and said, I will step down and allow Cornyn to essentially win if Thune will just get the Save America act done with Cornyn and these others that have been somewhat roadblocks in this process. And guess what happened? Nothing. They did nothing. And these people, they care about these races more than anything because they want to maintain leadership. Right? So there's not no one that. That th wants in the Senate more than John Cornyn. And that wasn't even motivation enough for them to get the Save America act done. You know, you look at this and you go, what is the hold up here? The holdup is the unit party working against the American people. And when I say American people, I don't mean just Republicans or conservatives. I mean everybody, because the Save America act polls at over 80% in most states. You have really bad leadership. Getting zero done for America. You got to replace them. So, I mean, I think Charlie was very vocal about this. In fact, before his murder, we had talked about needing to go to Thune's home state and potentially conduct some rallies to make the people in public aware of how bad this really is nationwide and how bad he's making, you know, his home state look. And, you know, we're. I think we're more than willing to do that, especially in Charlie's honor, to make sure that we get this thing done. Because if Thune can't get the basics done, there's no way that you can count on him to. To do the hard stuff, especially in the final two years of the Trump presidency.
A
Well, and I remember. And, you know, you can even go look at some of Charlie's tweets from 2024, 2025, and even publicly, he was saying, just deliver. All you have to do is deliver, John. All you have to do. Senator Thune, if you deliver, you will be a hero. And I think everyone agrees on that. It's not anything personal. It's not anything, you know, that. That, oh, we've got some. Some issue with them or, you know, something like that. No. You know, bad. Bad blood or like some longstanding beef. No, it's literally just, did you deliver on the things that you promised? Did you deliver on the president's agenda? Did you deliver on. On the Save Act? Did you deliver on border security, border funding, the filibuster? All of the things that we could. You know, we could go down the list again and again. And I remember there were a number of us who were pulling for Rick Scott back in that sort of. I think it was November of 24, time frame when this question came up, and these were some of the things that we brought up.
C
Yep. I mean, Rick Scott, overnight would change the, the composition of the Senate. And this is what they're most afraid of, is if you have a leader like Rick Scott that's getting things done, guess what happens to America. America starts realizing, you know, a good US Senator can get things done. And, and, and you get rid of more Cornyns. And, and that's what they're afraid of. And so the power stranglehold that is is being held right now within the US Senate, and it's on both sides. It's not just the Republican Party, it's the Democrat Party, too. The Democrats are very afraid of the progressive wing, you know, the Republican unit parties afraid of the conservative wing. But if you get one good leader in it, it starts to really, you know, call out those who are getting nothing done and they get exposed and their time is short and they don't want that. And so nothing could be more important, I think, especially in the final two years of the Trump presidency, than to get somebody in that can do that. And by the way, that's going to help us with candidacies in 2028. You know, there's a number of US senators that may decide that their time is up, that they have no chance to win. And we have really good candidates in some of these deep red states that really should be running. And that's what my hope is, is that we can continue to use whatever leverage that we have at Turning Point Action to encourage that, that we can encourage good candidates, particularly in these deep red states. It is, it is just so shameful to have states that Trump won by 20 or 30 points and have, you know, Republicans who are out banging the drum for the Save America Act. It's just bizarre, mind blowing.
A
Well, hey, Tyler, you know, I'm, I'm a fan of South Dakota. I like, I like Rapid City, you know, maybe, I don't know. Just saying, just saying. It's a night. I hear it's nice in the summertime time. All I'm saying, Tyler Boyer, where can people follow you in Turning Point Action, brother.
C
She follows that TP action. It's TP action. You go to tpaction.com to get involved. We are building the red wall and we're hiring like crazy right now in Arizona, Nevada, New Hampshire. And so if you need a job, we've got a job for you. The tpaction.com careers. We need you right away.
A
All right, folks, give him a follow. If you want to get involved involved. You want to get in the fight on a full time basis, go check it out. Tpaction.com jobs Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay short.
Podcast: Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec
Episode: Massie Loses - Trump’s Win Streak Continues & the Explosion of Trans Violence Across America
Date: May 20, 2026
Host: Jack Posobiec
Featured Guests: Senator Ron Johnson, Tyler Boyer (COO, Turning Point Action)
This episode centers on two dominant themes:
Jack Posobiec is joined by Senator Ron Johnson and Turning Point Action COO Tyler Boyer to explore these developments within the broader contexts of U.S. politics, Republican Party dynamics, culture war issues, and concerns over national decline.
[02:04]–[07:30] Host Analysis
Thomas Massie’s Defeat
Trump’s Grip on GOP Politics
[08:04]–[19:13] Interview with Senator Ron Johnson
The Filibuster Debate and Legislative Priorities
Democrats’ Use of Power & Media
Call for Republicans to Unify
[21:48]–[27:22] Jack Posobiec & Ron Johnson
Trump’s Influence is Substantial, Not Total
Challenges for the GOP
[28:10]–[38:02] Jack Posobiec & Tyler Boyer
Utah’s Crime Wave: Two Trans Shooters in Small Town
Community & Cultural Dynamics
Ideological Radicalization
Schools & Prevention
[39:27]–[48:15] Jack Posobiec & Tyler Boyer
Turning Point Action Victories & Senatorial Races
Senate Leadership & Internal Frustrations
Future GOP Strategy
The episode has a direct, combative, and polemical tone—unapologetically partisan, with aggressive critiques of Democrats, some Republican leaders, the media, and “radical” cultural trends. The speakers use rhetorical questions, sarcasm, and sometimes hyperbolic analogies to dramatize their points. The language is informal, heavy on political vernacular, and packed with calls to action for conservative audiences.
This episode presents a snapshot of current Republican dynamics: Trump’s dominance, growing frustration with establishment GOP leaders, anxieties around social issues, and a sense of being under siege both from the left and from within the party. The discussion of “trans violence” in Utah is used to frame broader cultural concerns, while electoral wins and primary shakeups are cited as evidence of ongoing transformation within the GOP and the conservative movement.
Final Call to Action:
Listeners are urged to stay vigilant, get involved, and support “America First” causes—uniting against both external opponents (Democrats, media) and perceived internal weaknesses within the Republican Party.