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Jack Posobec
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Kenny Cody
Regular hard pt, so can every member.
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Jack Posobec
Of our joint force. Frankly, it's tiring to look out at.
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Kenny Cody
Combat formations or really any formation and see fat troops.
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Jack Posobec
Likewise, it's completely unacceptable to see fat.
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Kenny Cody
Generals and admirals in the halls of.
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Jack Posobec
The Pentagon and leading commands around the.
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Kenny Cody
Country and the world.
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Jack Posobec
It's a bad look.
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Graham Allen
We're bringing back a focus on fitness, ability, character and strength. That's because the purpose of American military is not to protect anyone's feelings. It's to protect our republic and it's the Republic that we dearly love. It's to protect our country will not be politically correct when it comes to defending American freedom and we will be a fighting and winning machine. We want to fight. We want to win. And we want to fight as little as possible. You have to count on people like me to keep you out of wars.
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Jack Posobec
You want to drink alcohol, that's fine. If you want to do that, that's fine. But if you want to be a high performer, Donald Trump doesn't drink alcohol. Tucker Carlson doesn't drink alcohol. I don't drink alcohol. It will set you back. Mornings will be a little bit more sluggish. You'll forget stuff. You'll. Nothing good happens after midnight while both parties are drunk. So if you want to, if you want to have a life of ease, go, go keep drinking. But if you want to go do heroic and great stuff, maybe it's time for you to battle your flesh and not just always get drunk every single night. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily. I'm here in the Charlie Kirk studio, Phoenix, Arizona. Today is September 30, 2025, and as of today, I am 20 years sober. So it was 20 years ago today that I took my very last drink and I never once looked back. And a lot of people ask me, they say, you know, what's the deal with that? Why did you do that? Why have it? And look, today's not about me. Today isn't have anything to do with that. There's so much news that we're going to get into. But a lot of people said, hey, take a moment and talk about it. Tell your story. So I will. And it's really true. People say, how do you do it for 20 years? I said, I didn't think I would do it for 20 years. I even think about doing it for one year, I said, I'm not going to drink today. And then the next day I said, I'm not going to drink today. And instead I'm going to go to the gym, I'm going to pray, I'm going to do something else. Just whatever it is, I'm going to do something else. And I'm going to use that to fill whatever, you know, whatever it was that I was trying to cover up or get into. And you know, I knew my 20 year anniversary was coming up and I what I didn't know is that it would be coming just 20 days after Charlie's murder. And so in light of that, I do want to say something and I want to say this gently to everyone out there. Do not try to numb the grief of Charlie's death by overindulging in alcohol. You're not going to make the pain go away. You're going to think you are. You're just numbing the effects. It's going to go deeper and it's going to get worse. That road is a bottomless pit, and that is not what Charlie wanted. Charlie knew there was more to life than what's found in a bottle. And he'd been talking about it recently, and he'd been out there listening to Andrew Huberman podcast a lot. Charlie was a huge Huberman guy. All the Maha stuff, talked about how it makes you more productive, how it makes you have more get up and go, how it makes you have that ability to get up on a Saturday, on a Sunday, seven days a week, and just go, go, go the way that Charlie did. And look, I get it, folks. I totally get it. And I'm not telling you what to do, but I am telling you that I think Charlie made the right call. I think you feel better. I think you'll live better. You'd be a better businessman, a better father, a better husband, a better wife, a better mother. You don't need it. I'll tell you right now, you don't need it. You might think you do, but it's a crutch. And we were not meant to live on crutches. We were meant to stand on our own two feet. And that's what Charlie Kirk was all about. And even when he didn't know how short and few his days were numbered, he was still living that way over and over. So, look, you know, I'm just here to share my story. I'm here to be a witness on that. Not here to judge anybody, not about it. It's to all the people who are thinking they are interested in it. You can do it, too. I'm living proof. Because I have not had a sip of alcohol in 20 years of my life. And on September 30, 2005, I don't know that I would have believed you if he told me. But with God, all things are possible. Be right back, Jack. The Soviet Human Events Daily end in our wave.
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Graham Allen
And our golden age has just begun.
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Jack Posobec
This is Human Events with Jack. So. But now it's time for everyone to understand what America first truly means. Welcome to the second American Revolution. All right, folks, we're back here. Human Events Daily. We're in the Charlie Kirk studio, Phoenix, Arizona. But, you know, maybe not so much in Phoenix, but in the rest of the country. Cold weather will be here before you know it. You know what I realized the other day? The power goes out when it's really cold. I'VE got no way to keep myself and my family warm. Isn't that crazy? We could actually freeze. It's true. And where we're at is not like Arizona. We're in the D.C. area. But then I heard about the Vesta off grid space heater from our friends at my Patriots supply. Novesta is a space heater that doesn't use electricity. It uses something called canned heat, which is totally indoor safe fuel. So you keep a Vesta stashed in my closet and I know that we can keep warm no matter what. And it doubles as a stove. You can boil water, you can cook food. It's pretty cool, actually. So the best part is you can get a Vesta too, and a bunch of other free gifts when you order the the winter prep special from my Patriot supply. So here's how you get it. You go to my patriotsupply.com jack to see everything included. Now, this offer will not last long and of course neither will the nice fall weather. So go to my patriotsupply.com jack today. That's my patriotsupply.com Jack. Very excited. I want to bring on now the host of Dear America, my good friend and also a military veteran, Graham Allen. And, and Graham, you know, you, you and I turn, as it turns out, have something else in common, don't we?
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Graham Allen
Yeah, we were just talking about it. First of all, congratulations. 20 years, 20 years of anything is something you retire out of the military. 20 years. But, but, but, but no alcohol for 20 years. Congratulations. And as we were talking about it, tomorrow October 1st is my two year anniversary of no alcohol. So it's, it's kind of funny, the.
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Jack Posobec
Not planned, not planned, not planned, not planned.
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Graham Allen
That wasn't planned. I, I had no idea. And Jack had no idea either. It's kind of funny the last time I was in that studio you're in and Charlie was there, it was when I was about to hit one year. And I'll never forget that, that that's what Charlie was more interested in talking about than anything else was, was me not drinking alcohol anymore.
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Jack Posobec
So what? So, so when you had that conversation now, you know, I talked about it. I'm sick and tired of waking up like this in the times that I would do it. And, and I wanted to change Charlie. I mentioned, I know he was big on Huberman and sort of the physical effects, the mental effects, he's like, look, if I got to be on campus here, back, going back and forth with these kids, I got to be sharp and I got to keep My senses sharp. I got to have my wits sharp. I can't be, I can't be doing that. What was it for you two years ago? What, what brought you to it?
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Graham Allen
Man? I think, you know, in the military it's easy to stay in shape. I mean, you will at least it's supposed to be because you choice, right?
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Jack Posobec
They pay you to, they literally pay you to work out.
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Graham Allen
Correct. And so when I got out and we started doing this Dear America thing and everything, a very common tale that you hear. Entrepreneurs and things, they start off here and then work starts to go and, and then they start to like, like just go. And less and less working out and less and less this, more and more drinking from stress and things like that. I want to be clear because I don't want to take away from anyone who has an addiction or anything like this. I stopped for reasons I had gotten up to. I, I'm 5:10, I'm short. And, and I had gotten up to almost 240. I mean, I just got completely out of shape. You know, I've got asthma from the burn pits in Iraq. Couldn't breathe, like, just miserable all the time. And I, one day I was just like, man, I can't do what I know God wants me to do. And unless I take care of the body that he's given me first. And so that was it, man. I kind of cold turkey did and radically changed my diet. No more drinking, no more nothing. Sixty pounds later, I mean, you know, here we are two, you know, two years later.
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Jack Posobec
I love that. You know, it's interesting too, because I've noticed it started to become more of a trend, you know, so Tucker doesn't drink. Trump, of course, has never had alcohol. But I'm telling you, when I started this 20 years ago, there was so much prejudice against you when you, you were like the one. You're like the odd man out, you know, and everybody knows those sayings. Like, oh, you know, you can't trust a guy who doesn't take a drink or must be something wrong with you or are you going to judge me? And then people would, would. And I'd even ask you this, do you, have you ever faced like, like little like subtle ostracism from like friends or something? They say, hey man, let's. We're all going out tonight. You want to come? And you're like, well, yeah, I'll have a soda, I'll have a coffee. And. And then suddenly they don't text you back. Like, there's so much of this just deeply ingrained into our culture. But I do feel like from 20 years to today that there's been a change.
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Graham Allen
Yeah, I, you know, I, I put it to kind of like the pastor effect. You know, a priest, it's pretty easy to identify a priest. But not everybody knows someone's a pastor. And a pastor told me once, it's like once they find out I'm a pastor, they, like, you know, they change how they, you know, they act.
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Jack Posobec
Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
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Graham Allen
Yeah. Kind of the same.
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Jack Posobec
I didn't say anything, like, I've never said anything to any of, like, anybody's in the Navy or just like, whatever. Like, I do you, do you. Right? Like this is just what I'm doing.
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Graham Allen
Yeah, exactly. And so for me, everybody, everybody assumes it's a religious thing for me and, or that I was, you know, an alcoholic. And again, I don't want to take away from anyone who struggles with addiction. My hat is off to any person that is fighting that battle any day. I want to be clear about that. But it's not, not a religious thing or anything. It was, it was simply that, like, you, and, you know, we all were trying to keep up with Charlie. We have to operate on such this high tempo all the time that I just, I got no, no place in my life for it. And now that I've been off of it for two years, it never benefited me at all. And, and it's made me have to learn how to engage and relax and have a good time without a sedative to, to, to put me in that mindset.
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Jack Posobec
I used to, I used to have to tell, because, you know, depending on the situation, especially just like you say, being in the military, you never know where you're at. You're overseas, and you might be visiting some other country, and then you're in this country. I remember I'm not going in the country, but I was overseas and I was visiting. We were doing a liaison mission with another country's military, and suddenly they were saying, okay, well, we're all going to go drink now because the mission's done and we're going to celebrate. And I said, well, actually, I don't drink. And they're like, every head turns like, what's this guy's problem? What's this guy's deal? So there were times where, you know, I, I, I don't, I don't know if I'm like, confessing or whatever, but I would just say, look, I have an allergy and to kind of like, get past that. Moment because, like, there are times where every. People know what it's like. You know, it's like, hey, I have an allergy. Like actually, you know, I can. It makes me really sick and it, and it just gets you through that because it's something where it's so deeply ingrained into not just our culture, but other cultures around the world that, that, you know, it's, it's like an insult if you won't, if you won't share a drink with somebody. And look, I get it, like, alcohol's obviously been part of the world for millennia at this point, and nothing's ever going to change that. But what I, what I have control over, and it sounds like this is what you're saying as well, is if I can't control the world and can't change the world, I mean, I try a little bit every day, I guess, but the way Charlie of course tried, but I know I can control myself 100%. And if I can control myself, then that's one thing that I can choose and I'm going to choose to do that for me. It's sounds like that's what you're saying too.
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Graham Allen
Yeah, I think it's a very biblical principle too. Not, not that anything's wrong with drinking or. I think it's anti biblical or anything. What I'm getting at is it says drunkenness.
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Jack Posobec
Bible says drunkenness.
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Graham Allen
Correct, Correct. But the ability to, you know, abstain from something. The ability to have control over yourself, to be able. You. Correct. To say no to something. Andy Frisella, he's a good friend of mine, he owns first form, he has a podcast. And I'll never forget he, where he said along the lines of, you know, everybody wants to say that they're in control. You're in control. I've got it. It's under control. You know, look in the mirror. Are you under control? Like, like, do you have your life under control? Because if you, if you can't take care of the body that God has given you, how can you take care of anything else? And I'll never forget that. That really stuck with me. And so again for me, you know, I'm not saying that I will never ever, ever, under any circumstances, ever have a be again. What I'm saying is after two years, I haven't missed it. It's done nothing but benefit me and my health. And I don't really see a reason to go back to it.
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Jack Posobec
No, no, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's like that. You know what's funny too, man? And I know you got to run, but what's. What's amazing is I don't miss it even one second. But I will say that when I drank, I would smoke. And every once in a while, just randomly out of nowhere, I'll be like, you have a good meal or something. And I'll be like, man, I could go for a cigarette. And I'm like, whoa, where did that come from? It just kind of like pops in there. And that's. That's that chemical dependency. That's what that is.
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Graham Allen
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And I think a lot of people attach like a, like, Like a, like an emotion to things, you know, like in the south, like, eating is like a huge deal in the south, whereas up north, eating is just something you got to get on the go as you're going. I think drinking.
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Jack Posobec
So true.
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Graham Allen
Yeah, yeah. But, but you know, in the south, it's like a big deal. Everybody's got to stop. It's like two hours long to have a meal together. But, but, but, but drinking, you know, especially in army military culture in general. I was Army. It's just so ingrained in the culture that that's just what you do and how you do it. But our metabolism and our. Everything doesn't stay the same for forever. And then. And then we have to adjust. I think. I think there's many a married men, you know, the dad bod and all this stuff. I think there's many a married men that every man has had to make a choice at some point in his life. Am I going to embrace the dad bod life, or am I going to try to be as healthy as I can be, to provide for my family and to carry out the mission that God has for me to do?
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Jack Posobec
Oh, amen. Amen. I hope everybody chooses. I know, I know. You gotta run. We're coming up on our break. Tell people where. And kudos to you, by the way. Congrats on your two years. Tell people where they can go to get Dear America. And follow your stuff every day as.
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Graham Allen
If they didn't already know. Yeah. So, you know, just. Graham Allen, Dear America. And actually, Jack, I'm going to break something early on your show tomorrow. Technically, at midnight tonight, we launch Never Woke Apparel. It launches. It's worldwide. Starting at midnight tonight. Everybody can check out Never Woke Apparel. That's our new thing that we're launching, and you are the first show to break it on. So it just worked out that way.
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Jack Posobec
All right, you got you Got to send me some good stuff. Graham. Now you gotta send me. And don't forget the kid stuff, too. We're gonna need kid stuff, too.
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Graham Allen
Absolutely.
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Jack Posobec
They always want it. Thanks so much. Go give him a follow, folks. Graham Allen. He's a good man and he's a good father. That's the most important of all.
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Graham Allen
They talk about infrastructure. Influencers. These are influencers and they're friends of mine.
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Jack Posobec
Jack.
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Graham Allen
Where's Jack? He's got a great job.
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Jack Posobec
Don't. What? Don't try hit me.
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Graham Allen
Get out of here.
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Jack Posobec
Well, I have no. Don't come back. Get away from me again. Get away from me. Sir, you're pushing me onto the road.
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Graham Allen
Get the out of here.
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Jack Posobec
Let me move.
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Graham Allen
Let me get out.
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Kenny Cody
If you're gonna let me get out.
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Jack Posobec
Hey. Sir. Stop it. Walk. Stop. Walk, motherfucker. What are you doing? Why are you so mad? I didn't do anything.
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Graham Allen
You did.
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Jack Posobec
What did I do? Walk. I haven't done anything. Walker.
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Graham Allen
Do not come back.
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Jack Posobec
Watch out. You come back. I'm gonna smoke you, dude. Really? Yes, really.
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Graham Allen
I'm gonna smash that camera.
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Jack Posobec
Stop it. Stop. Sir, stop it. Stop sticking your camera to people's face. I have the right to be here.
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Kenny Cody
Okay, Did I say I have the.
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Jack Posobec
Right to be here?
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Kenny Cody
I have the right to film.
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Jack Posobec
You have DHS watching you right there. Lasered on you.
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Kenny Cody
You have a sniper lasered on you right now. Stop it.
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Jack Posobec
Stop. You sticking your camera in people's face. I didn't do anything wrong. You have a sniper on you right now. All right, Jack was up like. We're back. Live Human Events Daily. We're here in Phoenix, Arizona, but you just saw Nick Shirley last night. And hats off to Nick. Nick, please, please, please be safe out there. These people want to kill us. These people already did kill one of us, man. Used to sit right next to me here in the studio. And I should say I should sit next to him because it's his studio. Charlie's not with us anymore because of these people. That was up in Portland. And I'm glad that all he did was yell and push, but you never know, man. It only takes one of these nut jobs with a gun. And so my question is, I would suppose is, you know, we need troops on the streets and there's some great footage out of Chicago. There's great footage everywhere. But when it's Portland. When it's Portland, we know that Portland is one of the target sites. Portland Antifa. Okay, Portland Antifa has been one of the most well known groups Rose City Antifa. Since all the way in 2007. Since 2007. And back in 2016, Rose City Antifa, which is the Portland group, joined the Torch Network. And the Torch Network coalition is a broad, they would call it, you know, affinity group, coalition of antifa groups around the country. They're also affiliated with anti racist action and they've been up there for a very, very long time. And I suppose the question is, this is by the way, this is by the way, where a Trump supporter was murdered in cold blood. Michael Reinhold, in 2020, after attending a prayer service, was killed by an antifa for just walking down the street in a mag. And my question is, why are they, why is it that they're just allowed to accost people on the street like that? Nick Shirley is a journalist. Nick Shirley is someone who does things the right way. He does not provoke people. He is not a provocateur. He is not someone who is interested in, you know, causing a scene and then trying to film that. He's just. I've watched all of his stuff. I watched his stuff in Chicago, I watched his stuff in Ohio. Other places that he's gone, dangerous places. He's not about that. He's about going in and getting the real story. So when it comes to the crackdown, it's got to happen. And the laser pointer. Okay, got it. Doing the predator thing, sure, fine. But why are they allowed to roam the streets with impunity? Accosting people, accosting journalists. Oh, and I'm sure, by the way, that the, you know, the journalists association, the National Press Club is going to come out and say they totally condemn Antifa for what they did to Nick Shirley. Right? Yeah, it's not gonna happen. Look, the time for having a serious conversation about this ended around 3pm on September 10th at Utah Valley University. Okay? That was the time for the conversation. The dialogue was ended. And we know which side ended it. We know now is the time for full government action. And we've seen the deployments. I love the deployments. I love seeing Border patrol out there doing what they're doing every single night. But we need to get proactive. We need to absolutely get proactive about this. And what better place to do that than Portland? All right, we know that Portland is one of the hotspots, probably the biggest hotspot. It's the only place, right, it's the only place in the whole country where the left has no leg to stand on whatsoever. When they say antifa doesn't exist because the Portland Chapter of Antifa has existed for 20 years. So for 20 years they've been up there and you get the mayor walking around saying, oh, it's fine, Portland's fine. Don't worry about Portland. Yeah, because they're on your side. These are your shock troops. Well, my shock troops aren't bothering me. Yes, because they're bothering your enemies. Because you're not one of the targets. But here's the dirty little secret. If you ever go off the reservation, if you ever take a few steps in a direction they don't like, they will be after you too. Because Antifa, left wing domestic terrorists, these left wing violence, they are the scum of society. They are the criminals. They are the degenerates of society. The ones who can't fit in anywhere else. So what will they do? They will turn violent on you. They will turn violent on police. They will turn violent on conservatives. They will turn violent on judges and journalists. They don't care. They don't care about niceties. They don't care about laws. They don't care about any of that. You sit there and you say, I have a right to be here. Because the first amendment, they don't care about that. Go ask them what they thought about Charlie Kirk's first amendment right. Go ask them what they thought about Charlie Kirk's right to peaceably assemble. Go ask him what they thought about Charlie Kirk's ability for freedom of religion. No, they stand for the oppression of rights. They do not. They do not accept your right to exist. And if someone does not accept your right to exist, then that puts them in. I don't like to quote John Locke, but what Locke would call a state of war puts you in a state of war. It takes you out of the state of nature and puts you in a state of war. Now Hobbes, on the other hand, who I find myself a little bit more simpatico with, Hobbes would say that is human nature. Warfare, tribalism, nasty, brutish and short life. Well, here's the thing. We all try to rise above. That's what America is all about. Understanding human nature, trying to do better, trying to better ourselves, trying to turn this country into a more perfect union. But when you have these poisonous, sick, cancerous elements in it, they must be treated like a disease. And the disease must be fought. The cancer must be cut out. It must be eradicated. It. It must be wiped clean. And that's what we're going to do, folks. We're going to wipe them clean. So Nick, Shirley, be safe, man. Hope you got some security out there the next time you go out. Be in touch. Jack. Right back. Human Events Daily. Where's Jack? Where's Jack? Where is Jack? I want to see you. Great job, Jack. Thank you. What a job you do. You know, we have an incredible thing. We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys and these are the guys who've been getting policies. All right, Jack Posobec, Here we are back, Human Events Daily. We're in Phoenix, Arizona, the Charlie Kirk studio. So talked about antifa, the last segment. Talked about how today. Yes. And by the way, send. Sending your email. By the way, if you have a sobriety story or you're interested in getting involved with sobriety, send us an email 1776 human events.com 1776 human events.com and we can either direct you to resources or, or maybe we'll read it or something. But just putting it out there, putting it out there that if you want to reach out, this is a place you can reach out to 1776 at human events. Com. But there's some people in this country that don't want us to reach out and have conversation and have dialogue and make connections. There's some people who want to shut down all of that. One of those groups is the ADL and has been for quite some time. Kenny Cody is the opinion editor over@humanvents.com and Kenny has written a story all about it. What's up, Kenny?
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Kenny Cody
What's going on? Jack Brothers, good to see you.
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Jack Posobec
Good to see you as well. So Elon Musk, I think, really got the ball rolling on this a couple of days ago where, I guess yesterday now, where he put up on Twitter that the ADL is a hate organization and actually came over the top and pointed out that the ADL has listed Turning Point USA as a hate organization. And then you have got the headline, ADL Still Smears TP USA with, quote, hate, extremism and terrorism labels even after our founder, Charlie Kirk was murdered on campus. Kenny, you were looking into this. Elon's been putting pressure on it. He responded to me yesterday, yesterday on Twitter about it. What did you find when you dug into this?
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Kenny Cody
Well, the ADL has something called a glossary, a glossary of extremism and hate, where they blatantly, ambiguously describe all these groups as either having members associated with extremism, members associated with hate, with bigotry, and doesn't really give a lot of an explanation. Now, I think when I actually looked up the term Turning Point USA on the website. They just said that there have been some comments, some perceived actions that can be interpreted as extremists. So they're not even outright listing actual examples of any member of Turning Point USA doing anything that's extremist or hateful, yet are listing them in a glossary in a dictionary full of terms that can be associated with neo Nazis, with fascists, with all of these blatant terms that have been used, used to incite violence against conservatives, used to inside violence against Christians, and they've refused to take it down, they have not apologized for it, and they still label Antifa in comparison as well. They can sometimes be violent and they can sometimes be hateful, but usually they're not. So comparing these two groups, they are laboring Christian conservatives that are going up and holding voter registration drives and speakers on college campuses to host debates with college students to counteract the indoctrination going on in college campuses. But yet they're labeling a group in Antifa that literally have murdered people, that have literally protested streets and destroyed businesses and cities from the inside out as well. They're mostly peaceful and they mostly do not participate in violence. It is a direct incitement. They have blood on their hands. And the ADL should be ashamed in using the tropes they have had for peace and defamation in order to incite violence. And this rhetoric that have led to things like Charlie Kirk's death have led to things like Charlie Kirk's assassination and incite a violence against Christian conservatives in this country.
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Jack Posobec
Well, and Kenny, I can pull this up and libs a tick tock. She had a piece that went really big on it as well and she's got the actual glossary. So. And Here's a the ADL's entry on Antifa. Antifa is a decentralized, leaderless movement composed of loose collections of groups, networks and individuals who are vigorously opposed to fascism and focused on countering right wing extremists both online and on the ground. While some antifa adherents have engaged in violence or vandalism at rallies and events, this is not the norm despite disinformation campaigns that suggest otherwise. So Antifa is great and they, you know, they may have, they may have gotten into a little tomfoolery, but you know that that's really disinformation that antifa is violent. Okay, all right, now let's compare that to Turning Point usa. Turning Point usa. Turning Point USA is an Illinois based right wing student organization founded by Charlie Kirk in 2012. The Ms. Organization's stated mission is to identify, educate, train and organize students to promote the principles of freedom, freedom and. And liberty. Turning Point USA was connected to many controversial incidents, including problematic comments by TPOSA founder Charlie Kirk. The glossary of extremism and hate. So, so you look at the two, and the antifa one includes this strange statement saying that they're not involved in violence. But the Turning Point example is just completely written as if Turning Point USA is some kind of extremist statement. It's, it's bizarre to me. It's completely bizarre.
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Kenny Cody
It's blatant and it's intentional is what it is. It is literally trying to divide the country into the things they see on television. They have seen antifa ride in the streets, they've seen antifa assault police officers, and they've seen antifa indoctrinate young youth minds to convince them that people like Charlie Kirk was a fascist and a Nazi and that's what led to his assassination. It's what leads to violence against conservatives. And they should be absolutely ashamed of the way that they have conducted themselves and drew a line between the youth in this country have drew a line between the political ideologies in this country. They've seen how Antifa is portrayed on mainstream media, how it's been covered in the riots in 2020 and throughout the last 10 years, and that they want to try to convince us that Turning Point USA is the extremist group, but they are the, the extremists. Nazis, neo fascists. And yet they have still not taken this down after the assassination of Charlie Kirk is actually disgusting.
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Jack Posobec
Guys, I am, I'm looking at it right now just as we're talking and I'm going to ask the producers real quick, can you pull this up? Because I'm not finding the Turning Point page in there. I'm thinking they, it's possible they, they may have hidden it or archived it or made it, you know, unsearchable or something. Because I'm, I've got the link to it, but when I go to the link, it just takes me back to. It just takes me back to the ADL's main site. Yeah, I can't find, you know, a direct link to it. Okay, so you know what? I found the page now. Now the page is up. So Kenny, this is what they're doing. They're playing games, right? They're playing games where if you go to the main link for Turning Point, you can't find that, but you can still find the Article. If you search the website itself, I just found that that's what they do. Oh, look at this. Updated 9 29, 2025. Gotta love that. You gotta love that. And I don't see any, yeah, I don't see any update about what happened or. Charlie Kirk has promoted conspiracy theories. He's made comments, bigoted comments about the black community, the LGBT community, minority groups. TPOSA leaders claim they reject white supremacy, but white nationalists have openly attended their events. And wow. So, yeah, look at that, Kenny. It says they've updated something on 9 29, but I can't even find. Okay, here's what it is. Is that Charlie Kirk's murder, It's right at the top. Now, after Charlie Kirk's death, a number of anti Semitic and anti Israel conspiracies related to the murder gained traction. And so look at this. So Kenny, even in their update, all they're doing is still attacking people for what they claim is anti Semitic conspiracy theories. There's nothing in there about saying, oh, you know, maybe we shouldn't have done this to Charlie Kirk. So they still find a way to turn that to attack. Because here's the key. This is a business model for them. They've turned hate smears and censorship into a business model. That's what the ADL does. So you're never going to see them apologize, you're never going to see them back down because if they were to do so, then they wouldn't be able to keep raking in all the money they do. And by the way, this is a group which last time I checked, and certainly during the Obama administration, built very close relationships with the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security and local police forces all over the country. Kenny, why are we doing that?
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Kenny Cody
Because they. We have been convinced that tolerance is such a virtue for conservatives and for progressives and it shouldn't be for things like this. Just because somebody has said something that is ambiguously interpreted as the ADL wants to interpret as hateful does not mean they need to work with directly with the State Department. They don't need to look, work with any types of the federal government to target conservatives, to target activists, to target people who want to have a conversation. And that's exactly what they did. And let's not forget this is a tax exempt organization. This is somebody who gets federal funding and gets taxpayer money. If anybody in Congress. And Jack, you say it all the time. We are tired of strongly worded letters. We are tired of simple just tweets and press conferences. I want to see action. I want to see our federal government take action against the adl. They deserve to lose their tax exempt status. They deserve to lose any type of federal or state funding that they get from any type of state government or federal government in this country because things like the ADL has done has led to the assassination of Charlie Kirk. They said murder of Charlie Kirk and they said death of Charlie Kirk in their entry into this glossary. I noticed that as well, they're not willing to call it a political assassination because they know the political terms that they use in the glossary have led to the assassination had. They are complicit in blood libel. They are complicit in the assassination of Charlie Kirk and they should be held accountable for it.
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Jack Posobec
Kenny Cody held an incredible vigil for Charlie Kirk recently and he's doing a lot of great work over@humanvents.com make sure you're there, you're following him. Be right back. Real America's Voice. Jack is a great guy. He's written a fantastic book. Everybody's talking about, about it, go get it. And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event. And we're going to turn it around and make our country great again. Amen. Jack Back live here, Human Events Daily, Phoenix, Arizona. And so I just wanted to kind of take a second and step back a little bit and you know, I was in D.C. for the weekend, spent some time, spent the weekend with the family, got to go in and do that and then flew back to Phoenix last night here to, you know, to kind of just, just do what I can to help out and be here in Phoenix, be here at Turning Point. And there's something that I feel like there's a disconnect between Washington D.C. and the rest of the country right now. And, and certainly I feel, I feel it and I sense it on the right and I sense it in the MAGA movement and I see it online and I see it in the comments and I see it in the emails that we is. And this, this pertains to so much of what's going on right now. You know, you look at the potential shutdown that might be coming later today, the budget showdown and the, you know, just a number of other initiatives that are being pushed out of D.C. and I don't see a lot of them gaining a lot of traction. I really don't. And it's not because, you know, I think people are, are, you know, blaming Trump or, or even blaming the Democrats in a sense. And I'll tell you why. It's because of what happened 20 days ago. And it seems like there's a lot of people. And I get it. The world keeps spinning, world keeps turning. But you know what? You know what happened 20 days ago? I saw a leftist murder. Charlie Kirk and I saw them celebrate it. It. 20 days ago? I saw a leftist murder. Charlie Kirk and I saw them celebrate it. You really expect us to just move on from that? You really expect us to just be like, oh, well, you know, is what it is. Let's go check out what's going on with the budget over here. Oh yeah, I got a. I got a new bill on this thing. No, no, no. We don't move on from something like that. We don't just sit down and say, wow, that was a crazy news cycle, huh? Gosh boy, do you remember that one? Not good enough. Not good enough. They are killing us. Let me be blunt. We are under attack. Churches are being shot up and bombed. Month on a regular basis. This has been bloody September. And I pray that we don't also get bloody October. But who knows? We just might. We just might. The month of September started with this horrific church shooting. Minneapolis, right there at the beginning of it, End of August, beginning of September. Then we get Charlie's assassination, his cold blooded murder, the video of which sprayed across all of social media. Shooting in an ICE facility, attempted bombings, another church attacked. We need a full federal response. The Joint Task Force. Excellent. Joint Terrorism Task Force. The JTTF Border Patrol. Going and doing what they're doing. But how is it that Nick Shirley. I'm very confused. How is it that Nick Shirley is out there doing his job, getting footage and Antifa could just walk up and accost him in the middle of the street 20 days after Charlie Kirk was murdered. And that Antifa. Look at him. Look at him. He's saying he's sending a message. This is my street. That's the message he's sending. This is my street. And that's Portland. This is unacceptable. This is unsat. It's unsatisfied. We as a country, we as a nation, we as a government, the way violence works is that violence begets violence. And so the downward spiral on these things can go very quickly. And I don't want that to happen in my country or in my lifetime. I really don't. I don't want to happen for my family, I don't want to happen for my kids. And believe it or not, I don't want it to happen for others. Even people on the other side of the aisle. I don't. But I see it. And I see one side of the aisle or one group that keeps pushing and pushing and pushing. And what happens when nobody pushes back? What happens when they don't get arrested? What happens when they don't get locked up? What happens when they don't get nighttime raids and knocked on the door? They do more. They do more. It enables the behavior. They say, oh, I got away with it, I'm going to do it again. I got away with it, I'm going to do it again and I'm going to go bigger. I did away. I got away with it. So I can do this as many times as I want. You get an inflated sense of ego and go out there and you commit worse and worse and more violent crimes. You go full Red army faction, you go full weather underground sds. This has happened before in the United States of America. Okay? 60s, 70s, look it up. It's not even that long ago. And if these networks are not dealt with, if they're not dealt with, and by the way, if we're not going to do it now, what better chance are you waiting for? Really? What better chance do you think we're going to have? I don't. I don't know. I don't see one. Never going to see one. No. You got to go fast and you got to go hard. Fast and hard and clear them all up. Just sweep them up off the streets. Get them off the streets. Intimidating, obviously. Intimidating. Harassment. Go look at all the crimes that are committed to Nick Shirley on that camera. Go look at them all. You could see them all. Anyone could see them. Him, anyone can watch him. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Disturbing the peace, public intimidation, assault, by the way, threatens him. He says, I'm going to smoke you. Okay? That is a threat of violence. A direct threat of violence. So go and look at all of this. And the guy just keeps going. He just keeps coming. That's the left right now. And Nick, great guy, great guy. He doesn't take a swing, he doesn't fight back. And he shouldn't have to. Nobody should have to be threatened like this when they walk down the street in America. And the fact that we haven't seen reprisal style crackdowns just yet, right? It's still reactive. It's still in a reactive mode. Waiting for them to get, come, get around the facility, waiting for them to come up. And then even when they do show up, it takes hours for an arrest to even happen. No, no, the problem is, is it gives them a taste for action. And when they have that taste for action, they were going to want more. They are going to feel emboldened, and they are going to continue it. President Trump said earlier today that we are facing a threat from within. And he's 100% right on that. Not just the threat of left wing violence. You got cartels, you got the regular street violence that's going on out there. 100%. A hundred percent. And turning point is going to be in Utah, not the same university. This is Utah State tonight. And I'm sitting there and I'm worried for my friends who are going to be on that stage. My friend Alex Clark is going to be on that stage. And you've got government officials that are gonna be on that stage. And I applaud them. I do. My brother was out there. Benny Johnson was out there. Penn State, over the weekend. All right, when are we gonna wake up? We're in a war. We are in a political conflict. And the only way to deal with this, the only way to get this right, is to get the government to provide the protection of the people, both proactive and reactive. Proactive and reactive. And if we don't get that, if we don't get that, then I'm sorry to say I do not know what's going to come next. I really hope and pray that it is safe, and I really hope and pray that everything goes well. But they're all out there and they need to be rolled up. And they need to be rolled up now. That's what continuing the mission means. And that's why I don't have a lot of time for the shutdown talk. And I have a lot of time for this thing and this thing. Oh, I got this, Bill. I want to push this. I don't got a lot of time for it because the bullets are flying and someone needs to put a stop to it. It. Ladies and gentlemen, you have my permission to lay ashore.