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Alex Carrion
This is what happens when.
Jack Posobic
The fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.
Alex Carrion
A commentator, international social media sensation and.
Unnamed Co-host
Former Navy intelligence veteran. This is Human Events with your host Jack Posobic.
Jack Posobic
Christ is king.
Unnamed Co-host
New developments in President Trump's on again, off again trade war with China. On Monday, Trump signed an executive order to delay state deep reciprocal tariffs on Chinese products for at least another 90 days. Now this gives the two countries time to work on a long term trade deal. U.S. tariffs on Chinese goods will remain at 30% while China says it will maintain a 10% levy on U.S. products.
Alex Carrion
The key thing about gold is it just absolutely loves Mr. Trump, the gold market. And you saw this one of those other nuances, the potential for the tariffs, which was kind of silly, but now we're seeing it's not going to happen in gold. The bottom line for gold is the nuances of Mr. Trump are nothing but good.
Unnamed Co-host
Following an unprecedented order from President Trump, hundreds of National Guard troops are expected on the streets of Washington, D.C. beginning today, according to a White House official. To crack down on crime.
Alex Carrion
We're declaring public safety emergency in the District of Columbia.
Unnamed Co-host
The president deploying the Guard and taking federal control over the D.C. police Department for up to 30 without congressional approval, citing violent crimes like a recent attack on a former Doge employee during an attempted carjacking. While announcing what he calls a crime crackdown in the nation's capital today, President Donald Trump also set his sights on Chicago.
Alex Carrion
He says we are next when it comes to National Guard deployment and he wants to end the no cash bail.
Unnamed Co-host
Policy days before he meets with Russia's president for what President Trump calls a feel out meeting. Seeking to end the war in Ukraine, the leader of the free world seeming to make concessions on Ukraine's behalf.
Alex Carrion
There'll be some land swapping going on. I know that through Russia and through conversations with everybody to the good for the good of Ukraine. Good stuff, not bad stuff. Also some bad stuff for both.
Unnamed Co-host
Ceding territory to Russia is something Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has long rejected Russia's.
Alex Carrion
Desires to rule over Ukrainian territories. Will remain just desires as long as Ukrainians stand shoulder to shoulder helping the army and helping the state.
Jack Posobic
All right, Jack Wisoba, here we are back Human Events Daily, a little bit of a truncated show today. A lot going on complicated business behind the scenes here at Human Events Daily, working on a few things that will be made public at the appropriate time. But here's something that President Trump made public just yesterday with the truth social post that he put up for the entire world to see. And he talked about gold and he talked about the fact that there will be no tariffs on gold. He put up the truth social post. And folks, think about it. When you think of Trump, right, Donald Trump, you think of gold, it's almost synonymous. It's his, his hotels, it's his penthouse. It's all of the things that he's put together. It's almost synonymous with gold itself. And so the fact that he's tying all of these new economic programs to no tariffs on gold and thought it was important enough to raise to the level of public awareness is something that we should all be focusing on. And so in order to do so, I said we got to get Alex Carrion on from Allegiance Gold to walk us through all of this. Alex, how are you?
Alex Carrion
I'm well, thanks. How are you, Jack?
Jack Posobic
I'm doing great. So, Alex, what does it mean? What does it mean when President Trump says that there will be no tariffs on gold? How does this affect the market and why is he excluding this precious metal?
Alex Carrion
Well, when you think about President Trump, as you mentioned, let's reference that the number of gold scenarios that he utilized from the golden Age, the golden dome, the gold standard science, to the gold decor that he has in his office. He even appointed a treasury secretary that was also labeled as a gold bug, especially when he was managing the Soros fund. So coming back to your question, the media played it off that this was a misinformation. As a matter of fact, the way I think about President Trump, I think this was a deliberate strategic move. And here's why. Three takeaways that I learned and I studied this. Number one, he wanted to see the market reaction because Thursday is when the news broke, right? 39 tariff on gold imported from Switzerland, 1 kilo bar and 100 ounces. Nothing occurred on Friday. There was a little bit of a signaling, but in the last three days, the media was mute. And then all of a sudden, President Trump on his truth social tweeted his actual position. Now, why is this important? We got to understand the backdrop of this. In the last three years, we've seen an influx of gold imports from Switzerland. Once you understand the numbers, you understand the reasoning behind this strategic trust positioning. In 2023, we've imported about 6.1 billion. 2024 doubled at about 11 billion. During the first six months of the year, we've imported about 39.2 billion Swiss franc, almost four times that. And obviously Switzerland is one of the valves of the gold refineries. So half of the imports came from Switzerland. So the first reaction that President Trump was looking at, in my opinion, is to understand where is the pressure points. Okay, so that's very much of a valuable intel. The second thing was to signal both to allies and to our adversaries. I think last time on the show we talked about the brics Nation, we talked about how central banks have been de dollarizing and minimizing the utilization of dollar as an alternative and going into gold. So what President Trump basically said in a very simple way is that, look, we're watching the gold game that you're, that you're playing and you're not going to have it easy. You're not going to have this tariff free pass. And speaking about tariff, I mean, look at earlier this week, we got this brilliant reverse tariff on the two largest chip makers, Nvidia and amd. So the way I think about this is the messaging and the signaling. Now to Switzerland, we basically said, hold on a second, we know that you're the largest refiner, but make no mistake, at some point we might have to go back to the negotiating table. And domestically, his message was very clear. I'm not anti gold, okay? But I may use it as a bargaining chip at some point. So in a nutshell, what does this mean? When the US the largest, the most important country in the world, talks about gold, the world pays attention. And what we're seeing is that overall demand is gradually growing. Yes, gold went up all the way up to 3,500 overnight on Thursday night and now it leveled off. So in a nutshell, the three takeaways is, this is not a surprise. This is not labeled misinformation. This is strategic positioning. And we've seen President Trump utilize that over and over, specifically in his second term.
Jack Posobic
So taking a look at that, and of course, we've seen the rise of precious metals throughout the entire scope of what President Trump has accomplished since coming back to office in January. How does China play into all of this?
Alex Carrion
Okay, well China obviously is leading the BRICS nation. If we go back five years, they used to have about $1.33 trillion in US treasury bonds. Gradually they've been dropping that. Right now it's about 780 billion. What have they been doing? Alternatively they've been buying more gold. But you have to understand the psyche of the bricks nation and specifically China. China is the world number one gold producer and yet importer Russia is the second largest gold producer. Their frustration is while we're the ones who are producing this, why should we let the west, the COMEX market which the future contracts brings in, it's the largest future gold contract, about 500 billion. Why should we let the west control the price discovery when we are the producers? So here's what China is doing in the background. Strategically we just delayed another tariff to not November 9th. We're still doing a lot of the negotiations and President Trump alluded that there's been some, some progress. So in the background, China's action is much louder than what they're saying. Gold is increasing, U. S Treasury dependency is dropping and that's, that's a problem for us down the line because they also have their Shanghai exchange here in the, in the US we have the comex. The second one is the London bullion market. But gold is migrating from west to east. Their intention is not only do we want to control the product but we also want to be the players that set the price as opposed to depending on the US.
Jack Posobic
That'S just like the CCP all over. They don't want to just run the game, they want to run the entire house. You know, and what do you say to people then who say well you know, I hear you but I'll wait for gold to go down before I get involved?
Alex Carrion
Oh, I've been hearing that for the past five years. We saw what occurred in 2020 when gold hits 2000 in August 2020. A lot of people said oh this is the all time high. Look, gold is a strategic asset. It's an actual way of wealth. You're not looking at this to trade on a day in, day out year. To date the dollar is down about 10%. Gold is up 25%. You have to understand how gold performed during President Trump first term. It improved by about 53%. The dollars dropped. Right now we're in a fight with the Federal Reserve. We have an ability to add a new governor and we're in discussions to potentially lower the interest rates. So all roads are leading to gold. Gold is not only about this protective asset, that it's a hedge against inflation. It's no longer just acting that gold is not even acting as a safe haven asset because economically we don't have any major setbacks. So for folks that are considering by looking at their statement and measuring their wealth only in terms of dollars, they're missing out. Gold is a great diversifier against economic uncertainties, against anything to do with the currency and the market in general. So don't think about gold as this archaic way of an asset that is not doing anything. Think about how can I position myself similar to central banks. Why is it that president, I mean President Trump is giving you the hint? Why is he utilizing the word golden? Golden, golden, golden and every other scenarios.
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Podcast Summary: Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec
Episode: No Tariffs on Gold: Unpacking President Trump's Economic Strategy
Release Date: August 12, 2025
In the episode titled "No Tariffs on Gold: Unpacking President Trump's Economic Strategy," host Jack Posobiec delves into the latest developments in President Donald Trump's economic policies, particularly focusing on trade relations with China and the strategic emphasis on gold. Joined by guest Alex Carrion from Allegiance Gold and an unnamed co-host, the discussion unpacks the implications of recent executive orders, national security measures, and the broader impact on global markets.
Key Developments:
Executive Order on Tariffs: President Trump signed an executive order delaying state deep reciprocal tariffs on Chinese products for an additional 90 days. This pause aims to provide both nations time to negotiate a long-term trade deal.
Current Tariff Rates: The United States maintains a 30% tariff on Chinese goods, while China imposes a 10% levy on U.S. products.
Guest Insights: Alex Carrion highlights the strategic nature of Trump's moves, emphasizing that the delay is a calculated effort to gauge market reactions and apply pressure during negotiations.
Notable Quote:
Alex Carrion [01:16]: "The key thing about gold is it just absolutely loves Mr. Trump, the gold market. ... The nuances of Mr. Trump are nothing but good."
Policy Announcement: President Trump declared a public safety emergency in Washington D.C., deploying hundreds of National Guard troops to address rising violent crimes, including a recent attempted carjacking involving a former DoGE employee.
Implications:
Federal Control: The deployment grants the President federal control over the D.C. Police Department for up to 30 days without congressional approval.
Future Actions: Trump hinted at extending similar measures to other cities like Chicago, signaling a broader crackdown on urban crime and a critique of existing bail policies.
Notable Quote:
Unnamed Co-host [01:50]: "...the president deploying the Guard and taking federal control over the D.C. police Department for up to 30 without congressional approval, citing violent crimes..."
No Tariffs on Gold: A significant portion of the episode centers on Trump's decision to exclude gold from new tariffs, signaling its importance in his economic strategy.
Strategic Positioning:
Market Reaction: Carrion explains that Trump's exclusion of gold from tariffs is a deliberate move to stabilize and boost the gold market, which has shown positive trends under his administration.
Gold's Symbolism: Trump’s association with gold—evident in his properties and office decor—underscores its symbolic and economic significance.
Notable Quote:
Jack Posobic [02:59]: "...President Trump made public just yesterday with the truth social post... he talked about the fact that there will be no tariffs on gold... it's almost synonymous with gold itself."
Gold Market Trends: Under Trump's policies, gold has experienced a notable increase, climbing to $3,500 per ounce before stabilizing. Carrion attributes this surge to strategic governmental support and the exclusion of gold from unfavorable tariffs.
Economic Indicators:
Gold Import Statistics: The U.S. has seen a substantial rise in gold imports from Switzerland, from $6.1 billion in 2023 to $39.2 billion in the first half of 2025.
Market Confidence: The decision to exclude gold from tariffs has reinforced investor confidence, positioning gold as a robust hedge against inflation and currency devaluation.
Notable Quote:
Alex Carrion [04:36]: "Gold is a strategic asset. ... To date the dollar is down about 10%. Gold is up 25%."
Shift in Gold Dynamics: China, leading the BRICS nations, is strategically maneuvering to reduce its dependency on U.S. Treasury bonds and increase its gold reserves. As the world's top gold producer, China seeks to control gold price discovery, challenging Western dominance.
Strategic Moves:
Import Patterns: China's gold imports have surged, paralleling its reduction in U.S. Treasury holdings.
Market Influence: By bolstering its presence in gold markets, China aims to shift pricing mechanisms from Western-dominated exchanges like COMEX to its own Shanghai exchange.
Notable Quote:
Alex Carrion [08:36]: "...their intention is not only do we want to control the product but we also want to be the players that set the price as opposed to depending on the US."
The episode underscores President Trump's multifaceted economic strategy, highlighting his focus on stabilizing trade relations with China while reinforcing the gold market's pivotal role. By excluding gold from tariffs and promoting its strategic importance, Trump aims to bolster economic resilience against global uncertainties. Simultaneously, the deployment of the National Guard in D.C. reflects a broader agenda to assert federal authority and address domestic challenges. Alex Carrion's insights provide a comprehensive understanding of these policies' implications, emphasizing the long-term benefits of gold as a strategic asset.
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