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This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobic. Christ is king.
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The DOJ now suing the city of Boston, alleging its sanctuary city policies interfere with the federal government's deportation efforts. The lawsuit also naming Mayor Michelle Wu and Boston Police Commissioner Michael Cox.
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Here's what's happening. A steady drumbeat of job losses at the federal government level. You can say this is extreme or you can say the data kind of supports this. We're getting back to a place we were before the pandemic. Right. There was a pretty good surge under the Biden administration. So we're bringing that back down. At least the federal government level. It's. I have that number now. I just calculated it. 90,000, 80. 88,000 jobs lost in the federal government. Ex postal service since the beginning of the year. 88,000.
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Trump planning to sign an executive order today to rebrand the Department of Defense. The Department of War will become the secondary title of the Defense Department. Department of War, by the way, was a title used back in the 18th century. And the president has stated that the name has a quote, stronger sound.
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We're following a massive ICE raid at a Hyundai plant in Georgia. Officials say roughly 450 undocumented migrants were apprehended. Now, Thursday's raid was carried out by multiple state and federal law enforcement agenc agencies, including ice, the FBI and the Georgia State Patrol.
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With more than 450 people apprehended, this marks what appears to be one of the largest ICE raids at a single site in the 22 year history of this agency. Now here's what we know. This happened at the Hyundai Meta plant site. This is in Ella Bell, Georgia. This is just 25 miles or so west of Savannah. And according to the Associated Press, this raid stopped construction of this factory that's being built to produce batteries for electric vehicles.
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And Jack Posobic responding to a Trump post on India with this post saying, quote, tariff the call centers, all of them. Well, they don't. Welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily. We're here. Washington, D.C. today is September 5, 2025. Anno Domini reports coming out now that President Trump is reportedly planning or may be planning to announce a ban or a tax on outsourcing. This comes after I gave a speech at natcon yesterday regarding this and numerous calls for tariffs from the President himself as well as Dr. Peter Navarro, his economic adviser on tariffs on India are seeking a way to rebalance this situation. Want to bring on now we have Senator Bernie Moreno joining us here, Human Events Daily, who's actually got new legislation that pertains directly to this. Senator Moreno, thank you so much for joining us.
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Thank you, Jack. Thank you for having me. And thanks for your leadership on this issue.
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Well, it's the leadership is all to the administration and to what you're doing in the Senate. Tell us, why is this issue so pernicious for American workers?
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Well, we have tariffs on goods, right? So we've, we've done that. We've rebalanced our goods trading relationship with the world. But what we have to do is close the loophole on services. So when you call your credit card company or utility and they've outsourced these jobs that would otherwise be held by American citizens to foreign countries that by the way, are openly hostile to the United States of America, you're screwing over the American worker. And one of the things I vowed to do here in the United States Senate is to reset this relationship. We need to be advocating for American workers to get ahead, to be able to provide for their families, have good high paying jobs. And the fact that these jobs are being ripped out of this country and, and shipped overseas, we're just not going to tolerate that anymore. So we're going to put a 25% tax on companies, the value of their contract to outsource these jobs to give them the proper motivation they need to hire American workers, employ them right here in the United States and let those salaries filter through a community because obviously you pay the workers, they go visit a Restaurant, they go buy a car, they buy a home, rent an apartment. We're losing all that to these foreign countries and these corporations are chasing cheap labor. We're not going to let them keep doing that with, with no penalties at all.
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Well, and this is something that I thought was so interesting because, you know, people were telling me, they said, well, you know, Jack, tariffs are only for goods. Are only for goods. I said, well, wait a minute, I'm looking at the Constitution here. It says regulate all foreign commerce, and it's right there. It's clearly delegated to, to Congress. And yes, it says imports, duties. So of course, tariff, tax, etc. The proper mechanism that's left to the legislation. But the point is, this is exactly what the President has called for in terms of the rebalance of this trade relationship.
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Yeah, exactly. And then what we're going to do with the money, by the way, is invest it in trade schools so we can help American workers skill up, connect them to the good jobs that they need. Ultimately, Jack, this is very simple. We, what every elected leader in Washington, D.C. should do and what President Trump is doing is making certain that we put the American worker at the absolute center of every policy decision that we make. This is just another example of rebalancing the scales for those workers.
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Well, it really is. And at the end of the day when, and I've faced, you know, I've known people who have faced situations like this. I actually have a very close friend who just got laid off over a situation like this. Something that, in fact, the White House reached out because I had been, I'd been talking about it and they wanted to get more information on it. And how many times have we had where people have had to train their own replacements? And that's exactly what happened in this situation. And it's gotta stop.
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Yeah, absolutely. I mean, it's a slap in the face to American workers. It's absolutely idiotic for our country. It's great for these corporate executives that make even more money and pay themselves even more salaries, but it's terrible for our communities, terrible for our country. Look, we want a free enterprise system, but the government's role is to create an environment of incentives or disincentives.
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So we've been incentivizing companies to do these kinds of things. But look what we did in the big beautiful bill, Jack. We lowered taxes for corporations. We're giving them a better regulatory environment, better workforce policies. They should.
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At a minute. We are coming up on a quick break. Can I, can I hold you over just to finish the thought?
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Thank you very much. Right back. Human Events daily. Real markets force.
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This is Human Events with Jack. So. But now it's time for everyone to understand what America first truly means. Welcome to to the second American Revolution. All right, Jack was up back live. We're here on with Senator Bernie Moreno from the great state of Ohio. He's got the new bill, 25% tax on companies who outsource jobs. Now, now, Senator, can you walk us through the mechanisms of this? I mean it almost sounds this would be similar to I guess a payroll tax. So I guess you could, you could do hours worked, you could do per worker, that sort of thing.
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Yeah, typically these companies have contracts with outsourcing companies. So we would tear a tax that 25% the value of that contract when it's served, when that contract is serving American citizens and then take the money from that to invest it in workforce development programs, skill up American workers to allow workers to do even better and move ahead. So look, this is where like you said, Jack, we're going to put an end to this idea that these corporations can just free will go out and chase the cheapest labor on earth and screw over American workers and American communities.
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Well, and talk a little bit about this idea of they call it the multiplier effect. When the money is sent overseas, that means that that job isn't affecting the community and in fact it's disaffecting these communities.
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Yeah, that's probably a six or seven exfold of the salaries paid. So if some worker gets paid $4,000 a month, that 4,000 probably times 10 gets circulated around the community because they go to a restaurant, they tip the person there, they go to a beauty salon, they go to a grocery store, they go to the gas station, they pay rent, everybody in the ecosystem flourishes, which is why these countries chase these call centers. And of course it's phenomenal for those foreign countries and terrible for America, terrible for our communities. Jack. So you're going to see companies move more jobs here to the US and that's exactly what we want them to do.
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And so when the jobs come to the United States, it's the exact opposite. In fact, it kind of goes back to the way things used to be. Where you had a job in your area, you could go and, and then you're spending the money in that area which creates those secondary and tertiary knock on effects that promote the economy. Which of course that's how Communities run. That's sort of the basis of why we have towns and cities and eventually government comes. It's the, it's the very basic bedrock social contract. And yet through technology and through modernity, it seems we've kind of lost sight of all that.
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Well, we've allowed this to go on for too long. In some ways, we encourage companies to go out and do that, chase the cheapest labor possible. But look, this is the greatest economy in the world. We're more than 25% of the GDP of the world. And so companies, we give them all the reasons why they should do business here. Good tax environment, good regulatory environment, good workforce policy. Now they need to make certain that they take care of their workers and hire American workers and pay them well.
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You know, in fact, with some of these jobs, these, these call in jobs, I know that in the US there's lots of people I'm sure that would be more than happy to love the flexibility of a stay at home. You're on call, you're working for a company, but you could, you could be at home. There's so many people that are either unemployed or underemployed that it just seems like this would be an obvious, an obvious move for them.
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Yeah, and by the way, it's better for the American consumer too, Jack. So when you're calling the someplace where you need help or assistance, you want to talk to somebody who speaks your langu language, knows what's actually going on, you can't, you can understand what they're saying. These are real things. Anybody's ever called a call center, dealt with that. You know exactly what I'm talking about.
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No, it goes without saying. I was, I brought this up at the natcon conference yesterday and it got a, just a huge, huge applause line from the crowd when I mentioned that. And, and not to mention the, the customer service, but the scam calls, because it seems that, and I'm sure even you as a US Senator probably deal with this, that these calls just come in and over and over and over. And yet we, and we know, we know so many of them are coming from overseas, whether automated or it seems like one of these centers. And unfortunately, with AI and the auto dialing that people can do now, unfortunately there are people who get caught up in them and they start giving money or whatever it is over to these scammers.
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Yeah, and you're exactly right. The legal part of the company, the one that's being the outsourced to the American company, is probably in the same building as the scammers, because that's what gives them scale to do it. So the way we deconstruct it is get rid of the part where we're giving those companies the money and the contracts. And that's what hopefully this bill does. We're going to put it on the floor next week and we'll know which Republicans are on board and which ones aren't, and we'll make the Democrats take a vote. If they're against the American worker, at least we find out what we already know, which is that they are.
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Senator, I just have to say thank you. Thank you for standing up for American workers. Thank you for standing up for American families and communities. Thank you for putting America first. Where can people go to find more information about the bill?
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They can go on our website, moreno.senate.gov we'll have all the details there. Or they can go on congress.gov and find it there as well.
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All right, there you go. Senator Bernie Marino, God bless. Godspeed. Thank you again, Senator.
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Thank you, Jack.
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Thank you. All right, folks, listen to what the senator had to say there. This is becoming rapidly one of the hottest issues in America. It is certainly promises made, promises kept. America first always meant putting the American worker first, the American citizen first and foremost. Right now. We actually also have a great guest that I wanted, I was trying to get him on in person, but he, but he scampered out of Washington, D.C. too quick for me. Ladies and gentlemen, special Friday treat for you. We've got Aaron McIntyre of the Aaron McIntyre show on Blaze Media. What's up, man?
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Doing well, man. Thanks for having me.
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You scampered away on us.
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I had to flee the swamp. I had to get back to my own swamp down here in Florida, you know.
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Yes, yes, exactly. But just, you know, I originally wanted to talk to you because we had done that, that podcast a couple of months ago. Now on this sort of what is an American question. But I've got to get you in now on this, this just the last 24 hours, the, all of this, I think that's sort of been floating around and you've certainly been a pioneer in, in so much of the discourse on it has really come to a head, I think in the last 24 hours. This tariff, the call center's idea that reportedly is being, is being discussed within the walls of the White House. Then of course, this huge online pushback scandal that seems to have backfired. This conservative influencers getting, getting busted for spreading talking points to attack any of these ideas and all of this that the President's putting out. Where do you, how do you, how do you chop that all together? And what do you think is driving all of this?
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Well, I think it's been clear for a while to anyone who's actually worried about the United States and its continuation as a people that mass immigration, not just illegal, but legal, is a huge problem. This is why we had the big knockdown drag out with the tech right over Christmas, because even after it seemed like conservatives have finally won this victory on immigration, we were going to see big changes from the Trump administration. It was clear that the interest of many different business communities was to continue to bring in a large amount of people through the H1B program. Of course, we know that many Indians have come to the United States and monopolize things like hotel chains and liquor stores, gas stations. And now we see trucking and others seeming to be taken over by what is more or less an ethnic mafia moving into the United States. And this means more and more people are skeptical about immigration from India coming over. They don't think that ultimately there should be some kind of special carve out for India. It shouldn't receive some kind of special relationship. Yes, we can see what India is getting out of this deal, but it's very hard to see what it's doing for the average American. And that pressure building inside the movement is apparently adversely affected some of the interest in Washington, or at least some of India's interest, because apparently some influencers were being compensated to speak in support of them. And, you know, we've seen this from time to time. We've seen people come out and, and talk about how we need to protect India. They're actually an ally. It's usually people like Nikki Haley where you can kind of figure out where that motivation is coming from. But now we're starting to see large Twitter accounts who previously didn't seem to have a lot of connections to India using that type of rhetoric. It's very clear that they're scared that America is actually looking at really being nationalistic, actually protecting its own economy, ensuring that its jobs and businesses are, are operated by Americans. And they certainly don't want to see a lot of sanctions coming from people like President Trump. We've got rumors now that President Trump is considering basically shutting down all it immigration from India into the United States. No new tech immigration from India. That's, of course, a huge boon to many American workers who would desperately love to have the type of jobs that are currently being given to Indians in the United States. I personally know several people who lurk in the tech industry and said, look, I just can't advance any further because they only hire Indians for those jobs. And as an American, I'm cut out.
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I was just talking to, or talking about, I was talking to Senator Moreno and who's got this new bill specifically talking about putting a tax on outsourcing. We'll see what happens if President Trump does a ban. I'm sure they'll work together to, to socialize whatever legislation, whatever moves they want to put together. But I was just telling the story about a friend, I know, a personal friend of mine who was in a situation where he was in a tech company and he spent, you know, six months training these overseas workers who he was originally told were going to be where it was originally told were going to be sort of his staff was going to be his team and that he would be the US Lead on this team. Well, guess what? Once they completed their training and his managers came to him and said, oh, by the way, looks like we'll be able to use the that center, so we don't really need your services anymore. And suddenly, of course, they find problems with his or. It's ridiculous. And so he trained his relate, he trained his replacements without even being told that was the plan. They basically just lied to him and then fired him once the training was done.
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We see so many instances of this. I again have multiple people in my real life. This isn't some kind of abstract thing. Somewhere someone is losing a job. No, I, I literally know people who are actively losing their jobs to this effect. And of course, we've seen major companies like Microsoft lay out large numbers of tech workers and then immediately turn around, start filing for the H1BS to replace them. We all know what was going on. And I'm sorry, but Elon and Vivek talking about how they desperately need all of these people because Americans just won't learn to do the job. We have to hear this over and over again, right? Oh, Americans won't do the work. We had to hear this with picking fruit or delivering things or, you know, busing tables, but now we have to hear white people.
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We've got a quick break that we are coming up against. We'll get right back on this because this is the issue of our Times Human Events Daily.
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You know, they talk about influencers. These are influences and they're friends of mine.
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Jack. Where's Jack?
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He's got a great job.
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Yeah, nobody wants this. Right. Like again, most people probably know someone of Indian descent in their neighborhood. They like them, they're a nice person. But they obviously do not want to see a people coming into the United States changing up the makeup of the United States. Buying up business chains, buying up hotels, taking over the trucking industry. Remember Jack? The trucking industry used to be something that the average guy could do if he was blue collar, didn't quite make it to college, but was able to get a good living without a huge investment in something like the trades. And yet these things are being taken off the table. People know that these jobs are not just, you know, not being done by Americans who don't want to do them. They know that there are people in their neighborhoods, in their lives who could use these type of jobs to move forward, to ascend to the middle class. And instead they're going to India, where they're recognizing that most of these jobs aren't even done in the United States. Many of them are being outsourced to India. This simply hurts everyone. And it's incredibly unpopular. The only people who are shilling for this are people who are, well, ethnically connected to it or people who are directly financially benefiting from it. And certainly not the American people or the voters.
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You know, I remember when the fracking got going in Pennsylvania, out in western Pennsylvania. And this is, you know, kind of a, you know, 15 years ago or so. And one of the first industries that was directly impacted by this was the truckers. And I remember going out there, I was working on a campaign at the time, and the truckers were telling me, they used to say, look, because of fracking. And it goes back to what I was saying with Senator Marino, because of fracking. Now, as a trucker, I can make as much as I used to do, hauling loads in locally here in the state. And I don't have to go all the way across the country to be able to make as much as I do because you have a lot of small operators, people who are on their own rigs, stuff like that. And the guy was telling me, now I can be. I can take my kid to school every day and I can be there to pick him up, or at least be there in home. At home for dinner with them. I mean, that's your social cohesion right there that we keep talking about all the time. And yet we then go and bring government in. And let's be. Let's be fair or, you know, let's be blunt. These programs are all government subsidies to businesses. They have been from the entire time. And we sit there and say, oh, it's just the free market. No, it's the exact opposite.
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That's exactly right. And of course, as you say, the H1Bs are themselves a government subsidy. But we know this is true with all kinds of immigrant labor. A large number of workers for places like Walmart are on Medicare or on. Are receiving benefits from the government. They're receiving food stamps or other benefits to subsidize their wages. Their housing is subsidized by Section 8 constantly. We have the scenario where, yes, businesses are technically getting cheap labor, but all the costs are being externalized to people like us, people who are paying taxes. Again, I think about my uncle who's a long haul trucker. He was able to make a good living for his family even though he didn't have a large background, education or other things because jobs like this were available. We used to have summer jobs for, for high schoolers, internships, things that allowed people to step up the employment ladder, get valuable experience, find ways to build that middle class life. And it's all being denied so large corporations can have subsidized cheap labor. It has to end now.
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And not, not to mention the social effects that it has on an entire generation that doesn't have those kinds of summer jobs. Right back Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice.
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And Jack. Where's Jack? Where's Jack? Where is he? Jack, I want to see you. Great job.
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Thank you.
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What a job you do. You know, we have an incredible thing. We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys and these are the guys should be getting publicist.
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All right, Jack Back. Live Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice. We're here, Washington D.C. we're talking with Arne McIntyre and this question that has really been riling up the Internet, I've certainly been putting it out there. Arm McIntyre and I did a podcast a couple of months ago called what is an American? And then all of a sudden, you know, a couple of days ago, the great Senator Eric Schmidt of Missouri gets up to at the National Conservatism Conference and gives an entire full throated speech on what is an American. So Arran, you know, it's amazing to me and, but perhaps not surprising that you've got senators like him, like Schmidt in Missouri and then Moreno in Ohio that are really grappling with this issue because they're tying it directly back. And J.D. vance did of course last year as well in Hillbilly Elegy and bringing his family out talking about the graveyard on the hillside in Kentucky where he wants to be buried one day. And it really does go back to this very idea of who are we as an American? And the one contribution that I gave yesterday was I said that, you know, the right is totally, totally against the idea of gender fluidity. And yet we seem to have a lot of confusion when it comes to nation fluidity because we, you know, anybody can just, you know, be whatever they want to be. It's totally fine. And it's, it's, it's. No, it's just obviously not true. And I think the melting pot has, has boiled over. It's just completely boiled over. I think everybody sort of understands this, but what do you make of senators now getting up and really embracing this?
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Yeah, it turns out we're having a lot of trans Americans, and in that case, we don't mean, you know, Americans who think they're trans. We have other people who think they might be Americans.
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I didn't say it, but. But, yeah, no, I think Schmidt's speech was probably the most important one at natcon. It was. It was powerful. It was important. It really touched on, I think, the core issue that is going to be really central to all American politics, but especially to the natural conservatism movement going forward. Because we know, like we said, that illegal immigration needs to end. And it's great to see. I know the Trump administration is raiding even more illegal employers today, which is fantastic. But we know that legal immigration is also an issue. And when it comes to the question of legal immigration, we have to ask who should be here? And in order to ask who should be here, we should ask, who are we? We need to know what kind of people we are, what kind of people we want to be, and who we want to associate with. We need a more selective immigration policy. I would like to see a immigration moratorium for at least a decade, maybe two, so we can figure out what's going on. And then once we do decide where we want to go next, when we open immigration back up, we need to be selective. And in order to be selective, we need to know what is America, and who do we want to add to that mixture? And so the fact that guys like Schmidt are opening up that discussion is critical, because without coming to a consensus on that, without understanding where we're going next, none of the other immigration policies make sense. You can't say, oh, well, no, I don't actually want a bunch of people into my country, even if they are talented, even if they do have a particular skill, if they're going to end up taking the jobs of my neighbor, if they're going to end up adding some kind of cultural aspect that I don't like. I don't want to see a large amount of Muslims or Hindus in the United States, not because I have a personal animus towards them, but they're simply not American, because American is a Christian nation. And ultimately, we need to maintain a majority Christian nation. These are basic steps. But if we don't know who we are, we can't answer those questions.
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When. This is what I gave this part as well, and I was talking about how there's this idea of the blank slate or there has been this idea of the blank slate and people don't really talk about it that much anymore, but that is this, you know, this idea that anyone can just become anything. And there's no, you know, you're not born with anything. You're not born with. You're born as a blank slate, you're born as an empty vessel. And then you just get filled with your environment or whatever you're, you're nurtured as, and that, that becomes you. And certainly, you know, I think certainly the nature versus nurture argument is a good one. But at the same time, you can't eliminate nature completely. It's ridiculous. It's a joke. Obviously, our environments make us who we are, but at the same time, you know, it's one thing to say, okay, I'm from this environment and this is who I am, but obviously when you bring people over, especially at a mass scale, you are bringing their culture, you're bringing their identity, you are bringing in many cases, age old feuds along with them. And now seeing those play out on the streets of American cities that have no bearing whatsoever to this nation and its history.
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Yeah. We also often hear a story about how America is a land of immigration. Large waves of immigration have come. Now, it's true, of course, that we have seen the Irish and the Germans and the Italians come. And sometimes people say, oh, well, see, we, we assimilated those people just fine and it all worked out well. Actually, there were some pretty big battles getting that done. I mean, think about German Americans. In many cases, laws had to be passed to break up different neighborhoods that weren't assimilating. I mean, During World War II, we interred Germans and Japanese because we weren't sure if they were entirely loyal to the United States. So pretending like this has just been a smooth ride the whole time isn't true. However, at least when we were bringing in waves of immigration, we at first did it from the uk, from, from the, from, from the United Kingdom. And then we went to Western Europe and then Eastern Europe. And each time we expanded that circle, we kind of got a culture that was slightly more difficult to assimilate, but we were able to do it progressively. Now we're getting to these outer bands of civilizations that have just rarely if ever had contact with the West. They're not steeped in Christianity or they're not steeped in, in the Western tradition. And so it's a very difficult transition. You know, when we say things like we hold these truths to be self evident, we have to ask Self evident to who is the truth of the Constitution self evident to people in Afghanistan or in China, in the same way that it might be to a Western European. That doesn't mean that there aren't certain people in different parts of the world who can't ultimately assimilate to the American lifestyle. But like you said, especially when we're talking about immigration at scale, we have to recognize that some cultures are simply much, much less compatible, especially when they have totally foreign religions. And we have to take that into account when we decide who's coming in.
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Well, not only that, when you can hear it in their own words, and I agree with everything you just said, but at the same time they, many cases don't seem to have any interest in assimilating whatsoever. And they tell you this over and over and over. You know, I keep watching these, these, I've created this sort of, you know, sort of meme on, on VIX feed where when I find these videos of, you know, people being hauled out in the ICE raids, I've yet to find a single one where the person being deported can speak English. And yet in the New York Times accompanying write up, they will constantly say, oh, you know, he's been here for 30 years, he's been here for 40 years and he's just a worker. And you know, they gloss over whatever, you know, violence and human trafficking. But it's always struck me is that the complete and utter lack of an interest in assimilation, which of course is a, is fueled by the fact that they have so many of these large communities now where they've essentially become ethnic mini nations, ethnic enclaves within our own nation. People know about, you know, no go zones, but it's more than just that. And because of technology as well, it's, you know, I always say it this way, you know, you know, go in it. When next time you go in an Uber and you get the sense that, you know, you're not dealing with an American, go look at their other phone and they, in the D.C. area, I see this like crazy. They will have phone, phone calls going for hours on end and they're, they're clearly talking to someone in another country and it's just this, this long conversation over and over. And so because of technology, you don't even really need to assimilate the way that you used to. There's no, there's no incentive there. Yeah.
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Isn't it truly amazing that in not one of these ICE raids some guy getting hauled away to be deported isn't like yelling in English I love America. He starts reciting the presidents or the Declaration of Independence or something. You would think that if they were so assimilated they would share this love of the United States and to be able to express it in a way that would be compelling when people are asking them to leave. But of course that never happens. Instead we see places like Minnesota, which is now famously lost, but it's not just something like that, a Democrat dominated state. We look at Texas and now they're suggesting the creation of Muslim only towns or Muslim dominant towns or Hindu dominant towns in those areas. We're recognizing that there are, just like you said, there are some people who are living entirely digital lives in other countries and basically just collecting money here while only talking to their friends and family 8, 10 hours a day somewhere else in the world. But we also have people who are setting up entire enclaves, entire cities, official cities which where their culture, their people will dominate because ultimately they know something we don't. The nation is not just a set of borders or set of ideas or flag. It's its people. And when its people are here in mass, this nation becomes the same as their nation, not the other way around. When we had the anti ice raids in California, when we had the protests there, people weren't waving the American flag, they were waving the Mexican flag because that's their real country. That's who they really cared about. The Mexican president even referred to the rioters as her people acting in her interests because she recognizes that they continue to be Mexicans, not Americans. And if we don't recognize it, these people are going to dominate the areas that they're currently occupying.
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It's as simple as that. Arm McIntyre. We gotta run, tell people where they can go to follow you and get your book.
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Of course. We got the Total State. It's on Amazon, Barnes and Noble Books a million. The Oren McIntyre show is on Blaze TV as well as any podcasts and YouTube Rumble Spotify, everything you'd expect.
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I'm thinking, I'm thinking, I'm thinking Oren McIntyre's next book might have to be what is an American? I don't know, I don't know. We'll see, folks, we'll see. Maybe, maybe you can get it out of it. Maybe. We'll be right back. Speaking of books, Dr. Taylor Marshall is on to discuss his latest here at Human Events, America's Voice. Jack is a great guy. He's written a fantastic book. Everybody's talking about it. Go get it.
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And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.
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And we're going to turn it around.
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And make our country great again.
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Amen. All right, Jack, back live here, Human Events Daily. And we have breaking news. An update from the Annunciation School shooting in Minneapolis, Minnesota, where the neurosurgeon at the, at the pediatric intensive care unit there that was tending to one of the victims who's been in critical condition since that shooting, Sophia Forkas, her father and her neurosurgeon has given an update as of just a few moments ago. I want to get that out there. And they've said there will be extensive therapy, rehabilitation needed. However, they are seeing rays of hope that this little girl, although she remains in critical care, that critical condition that they are seeing rays of hope that she may not be in fact the third victim of this horrific shooting. And so hoping that people continue to pray, her GoFundMe page has raised more than $900,000, almost broken a million dollars. This little girl who after she was shot, had to have her skull partially removed to try to remove some of the swelling on one side of her head. Doctors, of course, are working around the clock to try to shape, to save her life. That's the update as of now. Rays of hope. Dr. Taylor Marshall joins us now. Dr. Marshall, your new book, all about Christian Patriot. It's, you know, there's something about this story of $900,000 being raised from the public to help a little girl who's in a situation like this who was, as far as we can tell, almost killed, may still be able to survive this anti Christ, anti Christian attack. Doesn't this show that America is still a Christian nation despite everything that has been done to, to suppress it?
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Jack, we are a Christian nation. I know people want a naysay, but we are a Christian nation. Christ is at our heart. Christ is at our founding. And we are a Christian people. And this story is so horrible. And this past week has shown us.
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That.
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We are up against forces that are demonic. I know we get a lot of flak for that. You know, people, people say we're pandering to the spiritual or not. But if you look at this perpetrator, this shooter, this young man was demonic. His drawings, what he wrote on the guns, he wrote on the gun. Take, you know, take this, all of you, and eat. Where is your God now? I mean, he was a wicked, evil, demonic man. I don't know if he was possessed or not, but it sure seems like it. And this is a hatred of Jesus Christ. And he went to a Catholic church with, with Christian kids praying. And he just let out all of his malice and all of his vice and took the lives of two children. Then this poor Sophia girl fighting for her life. We should pray for her. By the way, I just want to say prayers matter. No matter what the DNC tells you, prayers do matter. Prayer is powerful. We are a prayerful people. We will always be a prayerful people. And I think this is a reminder that, you know, being conservative and fighting for what is true, which is what we're all about, it does take on a spiritual element. And that's why I wrote this book, Christian Patriot. We need to root our patriotism. We need to root who we are as a nation in that which is most good and true and beautiful. And the best teaching ever given to mankind is the teaching of Jesus Christ. The Sermon on the Mount, the parables, the Beatitudes. Who would not want to live in a society that is ruled by that self sacrificial love that Jesus not only taught, but he exemplified by dying on the cross for our sins? That is the most beautiful story ever told. And so when we say we are a Christian nation and we want a Christian society and a Christian culture, we're saying we want what's best for the common good, for our children, for our grandchildren and for society. We don't want degeneracy anymore, we don't want demonism. We want to be Christian patriots. We want to renew our minds and think about how we can make this country and hand it on to our children and our children's children in the image and likeness of Jesus Christ. And I think that's a beautiful message. And that's the message of the book of Christian Patriot. It's a analysis of Christian politics from a biblical point of view, a natural law point of view. And then that's the first half of the book. And the second half of the book is 12 Ways or 12 Strategies to Create One Nation under God. And these are 12 things that every Christian can implement. It's a vision of Christ and what his plan was for humanity on earth as it is in heaven. As we say in the Lord's Prayer, the our Father, this is our vocation, this is our calling. And we need to, to recreate and restore what makes America great again. And it's not Western civilization, it was Christian civilization. It was the teachings of Jesus Christ and what he taught about dignity and forgiveness and redemption and everything taught in the Beatitudes that truly created beautiful civilizations that had their faults. But better civilizations than you see anywhere else in the world. That was Christianity. It's about time that we as Christians said, no, it was Christianity. We are Christians and we want to better our society by promoting Christian patriotism.
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When. When we look at. At this, it just tells me something so horrific, so demonic, that was done. I had that. I had a tweet that went pretty viral where I said, you know, who doesn't want you to pray? A demon would tell you not to pray because prayer causes pain to demons. This is spiritual war. I've been saying it for years. The very first time I ever interviewed you was five years ago. And what did we say? There was a war on Christianity. And President Trump in his first term was so, you know, so kind as to tweet out that interview. And we're still in that war. It just seems to me that we're still in that Christian war. And so it amazes me because I'll put it this way. When you ask the question, are we a Christian nation? Our enemies already seem to understand that we are. That's why they're fighting against it so much. We are the ones who don't seem to understand it. Isn't that crazy?
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It is crazy. And there's a lot of people, I think, in our Christian communities who kind of feel like we lost the war. We're in a post Christian society. And in the book I tell them, I was like, look, the fact that our enemies are attacking prayer and attacking prayer in schools and the Ten Commandments and Christian monuments, the fact that they're still doing it in the big 2, 5, 20, 25, means we still are a Christian nation or they wouldn't be fighting.
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Wait, Dr. Marshall, I've just read this quote. I need. I need to say this because we're only. We only have two minutes left. This is key. So this is the neurosurgeon for Sophia Forkas. This is a direct quote from him from. And this is not, you know, this is not. He's not the pastor. He's not a. He's not a priest. He said, she's still in critical condition, but there are some rays of hope shining through. There's a chance that she may not be the third fatality of this event. If you had told me at this juncture, 10 days later that we'd be standing here with any ray of hope, and he's referring to when the shooting took place, I would have said it would take a miracle. That's what the neurosurgeon just said.
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An array of hope. Who is the Hope of the world, Jesus Christ. She's a little Christian girl. Her Christian parents and the whole world are praying for her, raising money, praying for those surgeons. This is who we are as a people. And we should not be embarrassed about bringing our Christian faith to the public. Because, you know, the Muslims are out there praying in the streets. They're trying to institute Sharia law. We need to say no. We are a Christian nation. We are Christian patriots. And that's why I wrote this book, Christian Patriot, 12 Ways to Create One Nation Under God. It's going to renew your mind on political philosophy from a Christian point of view, but it's also going to give us action items to go out there and to renew and restore that which is most beautiful about America and Western civilization. And that is our Christian heritage, our Christian patrimony. So I hope everybody go get it. Christian Patriot. You can get it on Amazon, Barnes and Noble Bookshop. It's on sale today. And I appreciate everyone supporting the book, especially you, Jack. You've been a great supporter of Christian patriots so far. And I just hope it's a blessing to people and it changes the conversation so that we're bold in our Christian faith, in the civic sphere.
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Look, we're under attack. We're under attack. It's time to re embrace our identity, who we are. Incredible news for Sophia Forkos. I love being able to end the week on something like that. Dr. Taylor Marshall, the book is Christian Patriot. Do not walk, run to go and get this book. Read it and share it with others. Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay ashore.
Episode Title: PRESIDENT TRUMP REPORTEDLY PLANNING TO END INDIAN OUTSOURCING, TARIFF CALL CENTERS
Date: September 5, 2025
Host: Jack Posobiec
Guests: Senator Bernie Moreno (Ohio), Oren McIntyre (Blaze Media), Dr. Taylor Marshall
This episode centers on breaking reports that President Trump is planning to end or significantly restrict Indian outsourcing by banning or taxing call centers and imposing tariffs or service taxes on outsourced labor. The show features key guests who discuss the implications for American workers, the surge in online controversies regarding conservative influencers pushing pro-India outsourcing narratives, and how these issues tie into broader debates about immigration, nationalism, and what it means to be American. The episode concludes with an update on a Minneapolis school shooting and moves into a discussion of America's Christian identity with Dr. Taylor Marshall.
Reports of an Executive Order: President Trump is reportedly poised to announce a ban or significant tax on outsourcing, particularly targeting call centers in India.
Legislative Backup: Senator Bernie Moreno discusses new Senate legislation to impose a 25% tax on companies outsourcing service jobs, aimed at closing what he calls a "loophole on services," not just goods. (03:54-04:09)
"When you call your credit card company or utility and they've outsourced these jobs... to foreign countries that by the way, are openly hostile to the United States of America, you're screwing over the American worker." – Sen. Bernie Moreno (04:09)
"We're going to put a 25% tax on companies, the value of their contract to outsource these jobs… We're losing all that to these foreign countries and these corporations are chasing cheap labor." – Sen. Bernie Moreno (04:09-05:24)
Mass Legal Immigration & H1B Programs: Oren McIntyre argues the issue isn’t just illegal immigration but also legal, with H1B programs overwhelmingly benefiting Indian nationals, creating "ethnic mafias" in sectors like tech, trucking, and convenience retail. (15:20-17:43)
Selective Immigration and Assimilation: There is criticism of unchecked immigration and a call for a moratorium, arguing the U.S. needs to decide "who are we?" before expanding or reopening immigration pathways. (29:50-31:39)
Cohesion, Jobs, and Middle-Class Pathways: Both host and guests discuss lost opportunities for Americans in trucking, call centers, and tech jobs, drawing on personal stories and family experiences.
Update on Minneapolis School Shooting: The episode briefly covers the recovery progress of Sophia Forkas, a child critically injured in a shooting, noting the power of prayer and public support as evidence of America’s Christian ethos. (38:52-46:55)
Christian Patriotism: Dr. Marshall posits that America's founding and strength come from Christian values, citing public acts of charity, prayer, and community after tragedies.
This episode frames Trump’s reported anti-outsourcing measures — especially targeted at Indian call centers — as a landmark “America First” policy. Senator Moreno’s supporting legislation and the robust debate with nationalist intellectuals tie economic sovereignty to questions of national identity and cultural unity. The episode moves from economic measures to deeper discussions about social cohesion, immigration, and Christian heritage as foundational to renewing American society. Notably, it features critical commentary on social media’s role in shaping narratives, and closes with an emotional call to re-embrace Christianity as the source of America’s moral and civic strength.