Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec – Episode Summary

Episode Title: PRESIDENT TRUMP REPORTEDLY PLANNING TO END INDIAN OUTSOURCING, TARIFF CALL CENTERS
Date: September 5, 2025
Host: Jack Posobiec
Guests: Senator Bernie Moreno (Ohio), Oren McIntyre (Blaze Media), Dr. Taylor Marshall

Overview

This episode centers on breaking reports that President Trump is planning to end or significantly restrict Indian outsourcing by banning or taxing call centers and imposing tariffs or service taxes on outsourced labor. The show features key guests who discuss the implications for American workers, the surge in online controversies regarding conservative influencers pushing pro-India outsourcing narratives, and how these issues tie into broader debates about immigration, nationalism, and what it means to be American. The episode concludes with an update on a Minneapolis school shooting and moves into a discussion of America's Christian identity with Dr. Taylor Marshall.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Breaking: Trump’s Plan to End Indian Outsourcing & Tariff Call Centers

• Reports of an Executive Order: President Trump is reportedly poised to announce a ban or significant tax on outsourcing, particularly targeting call centers in India.

  • "Tariff the call centers, all of them." – Jack Posobiec (02:58)
  • This is described as part of Trump's broader America First agenda and motivated by pressures from both the President and economic adviser Dr. Peter Navarro.

• Legislative Backup: Senator Bernie Moreno discusses new Senate legislation to impose a 25% tax on companies outsourcing service jobs, aimed at closing what he calls a "loophole on services," not just goods. (03:54-04:09)

Notable Quote

"When you call your credit card company or utility and they've outsourced these jobs... to foreign countries that by the way, are openly hostile to the United States of America, you're screwing over the American worker." – Sen. Bernie Moreno (04:09)

2. Rationale for Tariffs on Outsourcing & The Multiplier Effect

• Supporting American Workers: Moreno frames the legislation as needed to reset America's trade relationships, ensure higher wages, and support local economies.
  • Tariffs on services aim to keep jobs and their economic benefits within U.S. communities. (05:55-06:25)
• Economic Impact: Discussed is the "multiplier effect" — money paid to local workers circulates within communities, benefiting more people than if sent abroad.
  • "That's probably a six or seven exfold of the salaries paid. So if some worker gets paid $4,000 a month, that 4,000 probably times 10 gets circulated around the community..." – Sen. Moreno (09:23)

Notable Quote

"We're going to put a 25% tax on companies, the value of their contract to outsource these jobs… We're losing all that to these foreign countries and these corporations are chasing cheap labor." – Sen. Bernie Moreno (04:09-05:24)

3. Public Support & Customer Experience Concerns

• Outsourcing is increasingly unpopular with the American public; the move to tax or ban it received strong applause at the National Conservatism Conference.
• Customer service is mentioned not just as a convenience or national pride issue but as a way to combat phone scams, which often originate overseas.
  • “...when you're calling... you want to talk to somebody who speaks your language, knows what's actually going on...” – Sen. Moreno (11:27)

4. Scandal: Conservative Influencers and Indian Interests on Social Media (X/Twitter)

• Allegations of Foreign Influence: Discussion of a developing scandal involving alleged payments from Indian entities to conservative influencers on X (Twitter), who failed to disclose their foreign sponsorship while pushing pro-India outsourcing talking points. (20:00-23:59)
  • "If any foreign money is being spent on X... especially if it's from the foreign government, it should always be disclosed." – Jack Posobiec (23:14)
• Posobiec criticizes both foreign governments and U.S. influencers for lack of transparency and for working against U.S. labor interests.

5. Broader Debate: Immigration, “What Is an American?”, and National Cohesion

• Mass Legal Immigration & H1B Programs: Oren McIntyre argues the issue isn’t just illegal immigration but also legal, with H1B programs overwhelmingly benefiting Indian nationals, creating "ethnic mafias" in sectors like tech, trucking, and convenience retail. (15:20-17:43)

  • "I personally know several people... said, look, I just can't advance any further because they only hire Indians for those jobs." – Oren McIntyre (17:12)

• Selective Immigration and Assimilation: There is criticism of unchecked immigration and a call for a moratorium, arguing the U.S. needs to decide "who are we?" before expanding or reopening immigration pathways. (29:50-31:39)

  • "We need a more selective immigration policy. I would like to see a immigration moratorium for at least a decade, maybe two..." – Oren McIntyre (30:53)

• Cohesion, Jobs, and Middle-Class Pathways: Both host and guests discuss lost opportunities for Americans in trucking, call centers, and tech jobs, drawing on personal stories and family experiences.

  • Jobs traditionally accessible to the American working class are described as now less available due to foreign labor and corporate outsourcing. (25:16-27:28)

6. Assimilation & Ethnic Enclaves

• Concerns are raised about the lack of assimilation among recent immigrants and the formation of ethnic enclaves, resulting in what they argue is a weakening of national cohesion and identity.
  • "In not one of these ICE raids some guy getting hauled away to be deported isn't like yelling in English 'I love America'... Instead... they're waving the Mexican flag because that's their real country." – Oren McIntyre (36:11-37:51)

7. America’s Christian Identity & National Renewal (with Dr. Taylor Marshall)

• Update on Minneapolis School Shooting: The episode briefly covers the recovery progress of Sophia Forkas, a child critically injured in a shooting, noting the power of prayer and public support as evidence of America’s Christian ethos. (38:52-46:55)

  • “If you had told me at this juncture, 10 days later... I would have said it would take a miracle.” – Sophia’s neurosurgeon (46:46)

• Christian Patriotism: Dr. Marshall posits that America's founding and strength come from Christian values, citing public acts of charity, prayer, and community after tragedies.

  • "It’s about time that we as Christians said, no, it was Christianity. We are Christians and we want to better our society by promoting Christian patriotism." – Dr. Taylor Marshall (44:10-44:37)

Notable Quotes (with Timestamps & Speaker Attribution)

• On Service Outsourcing:
  • "We're going to put a 25% tax on companies, the value of their contract to outsource these jobs... We're not going to let them keep doing that with no penalties at all." – Sen. Bernie Moreno (04:09-05:24)
• On Public Sentiment:
  • "This got a huge, huge applause line from the crowd when I mentioned that." – Jack Posobiec (11:45)
• On Social Media Influence Scandal:
  • "If any foreign money is being spent on X... especially if it's from the foreign government, it should always be disclosed." – Jack Posobiec (23:14)
• On Immigration Policy:
  • "We need a more selective immigration policy. I would like to see a immigration moratorium for at least a decade, maybe two..." – Oren McIntyre (30:53)
• On Christian Roots in America:
  • "We are a Christian people. And this story is so horrible. And this past week has shown us... we are up against forces that are demonic." – Dr. Taylor Marshall (41:05-41:22)
  • "When you ask the question, are we a Christian nation? Our enemies already seem to understand that we are. That's why they're fighting against it so much." – Jack Posobiec (45:10)

Timestamps for Major Segments

• [02:58] – Introduction to Trump's reported outsourcing ban & call for tariffs on overseas call centers
• [03:54-06:25] – Senator Bernie Moreno details his bill and the need to tax outsourcing of services
• [11:27-12:29] – Customer service, consumer experience, and fraud concerns with overseas call centers
• [15:20-19:31] – Oren McIntyre on immigration, H1B visas, and loss of American jobs
• [23:14] – Scandal about paid pro-India posts on X/Twitter and foreign influence debate
• [25:16-27:28] – Corporate subsidies, H1B implications, and the loss of blue-collar job opportunities
• [29:50-34:31] – “What is an American?”, assimilation, and the nation’s core identity
• [38:52-46:55] – Update on Minneapolis shooting; Dr. Taylor Marshall: America’s Christian nature & renewal

Memorable Moments

• Senator Moreno’s pledge to put American workers first and invest tariff proceeds into trade schools (05:55)
• Jack Posobiec’s description of bipartisan applause for taxing call centers at NatCon (11:45)
• Revelations of conservative online influencers allegedly acting as undisclosed foreign agents (20:00-24:09)
• Detailed conversation on the incompatibility of certain immigrant communities with American culture (32:48-36:11)
• Dr. Taylor Marshall’s impassioned argument that reclaiming America’s Christian roots is essential for national renewal (41:05-44:37)

Conclusion

This episode frames Trump’s reported anti-outsourcing measures — especially targeted at Indian call centers — as a landmark “America First” policy. Senator Moreno’s supporting legislation and the robust debate with nationalist intellectuals tie economic sovereignty to questions of national identity and cultural unity. The episode moves from economic measures to deeper discussions about social cohesion, immigration, and Christian heritage as foundational to renewing American society. Notably, it features critical commentary on social media’s role in shaping narratives, and closes with an emotional call to re-embrace Christianity as the source of America’s moral and civic strength.