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former Navy intelligence veteran.
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This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobic. Christ is King.
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Arson trial getting underway for the man accused of sparking last year's deadly Palisades fire in la.
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It was one of the most destructive wildfires in the city's history, killing 12
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people and destroying more than 6,000 structures.
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Prosecutors say 30 year old Jonathan Rendernecht
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started a fire on a hiking trail in the area that smoldered underground for
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exploding into the Palisades fire.
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A bipartisan group of lawmakers believes the
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pushing for more transparency on what is really out there.
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sitting on some evidence showing proof of other life forms.
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Now we have a serious warning about the millions of dollars Americans rely on for retirement. More than 62 million people get benefits from the Old Age and Survivors Insurance Trust Fund, a new government analysis says says in just six years the fund will only have enough money to pay 78% of its scheduled benefits.
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President Trump posting a Truth Social that we will hit Iran very hard tonight. Also sharing in that post on Truth Social is saying that at some point
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will be taking Carg Island.
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So I love the inflation, you know.
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third straight month is great. He argued that global oil prices would actually be even higher if not for a secret U.S. mission in the Strait of Hormuz.
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You know we've been taking out millions of barrels of oil. Nobody knows it.
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Trump said he had ordered the military to help move more than 100 million barrels of oil making its way through the Strait and into the open market undetected by Iran.
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We took out the other night, 22 ships late at night with no lights because they don't have any radar because we blasted the crap out of it. All right, here's what we're going to do. I got this all figured out. Leave it up, all right? President was talking about leaving it up. Instead of having the 2028 primaries, you know, out in the states and the caucuses and all that. No, no, just do it right here. Do it in the octagon.
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Let's go to every single cabinet member that wants to go. The vp, Everybody. Get the Democrats in there. James Talarico, Ken Paxton. Figure it out in the octagon. Let's go. Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily. We're here live. Today is June 6, 2026 Anno Domini. We are here live in Washington, D.C. and as you can see, yes, I this morning went on over to the press preview of the UFC octagon. I got to walk the octagon itself. I was actually asked to climb down from the octagon. They said, excuse me, sir, can you please climb off the octagon? I said, well, nobody told me I couldn't go in the octagon. All right? You didn't tell. If you want to tell me that I can't go in the octagon, you got to tell me. I can't go in the octagon because if I see an octagon, I'm going in the octagon, all right? And we're looking at this. And I saw, you know, last night, the light up of the octagon. As amazing as it was, the hype is absolutely through the roof for UFC with normal America, middle America, regular America. I got to thinking and I thought, you know, I know that the intelligentsia is attacking this and tearing it apart, but let's. Let's think if we can. Let's take a little page out of, you know, Scanner Darkly or Man in the High Castle and imagine, if you will, an alternate reality with me. Come along. Imagine America 250 under Kamala. Imagine Kamala's America 250. Imagine what we would have non stop, yearly apologies for America, the humiliation of America, nonstop worship of people like George Floyd or Trayvon Martin or talking about how terrible America has always been. Nonstop lectures, nonstop bringing up, oh, slavery. And Christopher Columbus was a terrible person. And we have to. We have to castigate ourselves. And it would be struggle Sessions on the White House lawn. It would actually be struggle sessions of patriotic Americans or just complete humiliations of our rituals. Humiliation rituals of our military. Humiliation rituals of our leadership. Humiliation rituals of our White House. What's President Trump doing? He's holding celebrations. Celebrations of America. And let me tell you something, ladies and gentlemen, the American people love combat. It's just true. It's always been true. It's been true from the start. Now, that doesn't mean the American people always love war and it doesn't mean American people always love war, especially if the war is not perceived as in their interests. I'm not saying that, but I'm saying the American people love a fight. They love to see an underdog come in and beat someone who's too cocky, who thinks he's cock of the walk. No, the American people love to see a winner. The American people love to see maybe a little, maybe a little blood on the streets. But, you know, that's what America is all about. That's what the original Fourth of July is all about. So, no, we're not going to apologize for America. We're not going to apologize for Western civilization. We're certainly not going to apologize for creating the greatest country and the greatest society that mankind has ever seen. And UFC Freedom 250 is what kicks it off. And you know what? Salute to you, Mr. President, because what are you doing? You're saluting America right back. Jack Posovic with more Human Events daily. Stand in our way and our golden age has just begun. This is Human Events with Jack Posoba. Now it's time for everyone to understand what America first truly means. Welcome to the second American Revolution. Alright folks, Jack Sobecker back Live human events daily. Real America's voice, ladies and gentlemen. We got to talk about it. We've been talking about it. We're going to talk about it a little bit more. Fluoride. The government has been medicating your water with it for over 80 years. Not because you asked for it, not because you voted for it, because they decided you needed it. Well, that's not a decision that I want someone else making for my family. Which is why I filter every drop of water in my home with COVID pure. Over 2,109 million Americans are on fluoride water right now. And here's what the science actually shows. In September 2024, a federal judge ruled that adding fluoride to water poses, and I'm quoting the court directly, an unreasonable risk to neurological health. Not a fringe survey. No, a federal court ordering the EPA to act. Then in January 2025, a study published by JAMA Pediatrics, one of the most respected medical journals in the world, confirmed a link between fluoride exposure and children's IQ scores. The higher the exposure, the lower the iq. Sure, some states are moving on this. Utah and Florida have banned it. But that process takes years. Your kids, your family, they're drinking this water today. You need something that works now. And that's exactly what Cove pure is. Its Clearwave Reverse Osmosis technology is certified to remove up to 99.9% of contaminants. Fluoride, PFAS, lead, pharmaceuticals, heavy metals. Anything that isn't water gets filtered out. So don't wait for the government to catch up. Go get yourself a Cove Pure. If you use my link covpure.com poso you get $250 off. That's C-O-V-E-P-U-R-E.com poso covepure.com poso look, my family love this stuff. I tell you guys, my kids have been drinking it. We call it super water back home. And Jack, Jack, tell you something, folks, he just got a triple in the playoffs. Now, I'm not saying that's directly connected to the COVID Pure water that he's been drinking. I am saying, though, he just got a triple in the playoffs. So just saying, just saying the water in his bottle was Cove pure. Want to get on our next guest here, Rich Barris, the people's pundit, because, you know, he's been looking at all this stuff. We've been looking at all this stuff. Rich, how are you?
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Dream as always, my brother. How you doing? Thanks for having me.
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No, I'm doing great. And I had a great look. I'm telling you, it was over at the White House. Just came over, we did the UFC thing. Rich, I just know from my anecdotal, you know, poll, I don't, I don't do the big, you know, the big screens of polls like you guys do, but I do know the working class people, the middle class people that I know, the friends folks home in the Rust Belt, they're all talking about ufc. They all think it's really cool. Do they think the Iran war is great? No. Do they want to see more deportations? Yes. But they love the UFC fight. And I think a lot of the mainstream media is actually missing out on this. They don't quite understand it, do they?
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No, they don't. And that's kind of a shocker. Isn't it? I mean, even leading up until the 24 election, the country was very, very depressed. Right? I mean, Americans. I was listening to the segment before and this is a good idea. Americans like a scrap. They like the scrap, you know, the love and under. An underdog story. It's a story of America. And I think we all need. And I'd liken it to the TP USA event during the halftime show in Super Bowl. Wonder who has idea that was.
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It must have been some, some, some, some Polish guys idea. I think that's what I heard at
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least I'd liken it to that. People need to feel good from time to time, Jack, and you know, whatever kind of commentary people want to try to offer on that. Well, you need to violence to feel good. Well, America is a, you know, Europeans used to look at us like we were rugged, ruggedly individualistic and, and almost barbaric. Right. In the sense of the old world's kind of. And that's what makes us American. That's a good thing in my mind anyway. We need, we need a win. We need to win. The country needs a win.
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We need to just be able to unplug for a bit. That's what they like to do. They did it all through. You know, there's been hard political and
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by the way, Rich, Rich, can I. I'm just going to say something that I know and this has been said a little bit, but, you know, maybe kind of leaking something. They've said that that audience of the seats that are right in front, and I was at the preview there earlier this morning, most of those seats are going to be military members in uniform and you know, those guys are going to be cheering their heads off. So, so when, so when the media and Trump. This is very good on his part. So when the media and the left starts attacking it, you're going to look like you're attacking the best of the best of America's military. You're going to look like you're attacking something that so many average Americans love. And it's going to feel like they're going to feel like the media and the left are attacking them. This is Trump at his best. And call balls and strikes. This is one of the best ideas he's had.
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Well, that's what I was going to issue a bit of a warning here too because of course we know there's some people on our side who are, you know, might be tempted to take a shot here or there. You know, I would strongly suggest not Doing that. If you're upset about something, you don't have to be upset about everything. This is a good, this is a very good idea. I mean, it's also key to the President's brand. You know, I'm a numbers guy. I'm always looking at things through the, through that prism. And, you know, if you're trying to shore certain people up, certain demographics up, I mean, this is the best way to do it. And would you rather shore up, you know, your middle aged young male base or do you want to, you know, try to be bland or what? You know, Reagan used to say pain and pastels, you know, pale pastels to try to see how many women that you might be mad at you right now you could earn back. That's just not. And by the way, you know, women who like UFC as well, I mean, it's just, this is, this is more in, in line with his brand and this is, yeah, it's a good move. And again, I, aside from the politics of it, you know, the country just needs to unplug. It needs a bit of a win. You know, we're in a conflict right now. It's divided the country. It's not going as some people had hoped it would be going. I mean, we're coming up on the 250 and we have to celebrate this, Jack. It's a big deal. And despite what you may be, you know, there's always something people can find out there to complain about. When you live on social media like we do, we see it all the time. Right. But at the, we're in a couple of weeks here, we're coming up on a day where all of us can at least celebrate and come together. It's a big deal. It's a big anniversary and you can at least look back and say, hey, could have been Kamala Harris.
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Hey, Rich, by the way, you know, I do want to bring out that just a few minutes ago, we do have breaking news and I think you'd be excellent to come on this. I certainly will as well. We do know. So this is not related to those. There's Iran strikes. We know that President Trump had called that off already prior to the show. So there was this, this threat that he made. Then he called off. He said this was obviously the president was shaking the box. As Scott Adams used to say on Iran gets them to a place where they can sign a deal. That's always been the point. This is breaking news on the Director of National Intelligence front. President Trump has a truth social that he Posted a few minutes ago, saying, I'm pleased to announce the nomination of very highly respected Jay Clayton, the former chairman of the sec, the former head of Sullivan and Cromwell, one of the most prominent and successful law firms anywhere in the world, and the current U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York to be the next Director of National Intelligence and importantly, serve in my Cabinet. Few people anywhere in the legal community are respected at the level of Jay. I encourage the United States Senate to confirm Jay as soon as possible. Thank you for the attention to this matter. President DONALD J. Trump. So, Rich, this, you know, obviously comes as we know that there's been a huge fight over the Pulte nomination, or I should say the Pulte appointment. So the way I read this is that the President is going to send Pulte over there for a specific targeted, focused mission at dni, and then at some point, because we know these appointment processes can take a long, lengthy time with the Senate. So this Clayton will then come in at whatever point he's nominated for the permanent position. Does that make sense to you?
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Yeah, and yes, it does. And also at this time of season, during this point in the cycle, Jack, you know, I mean, it can, this can take a while. I also think that if the President is trying, as I think he is rightfully trying to do, if he's honestly trying to figure out an off ramp here with Iran in a respectful way, the Senate was, you know, they're always whining, these senators, Republican senators too, they're always whining about something. And they were very unhappy with this and wanted they had been encouraging him, you know, please give us a permanent appointment. Well, look, he did so get off his back as he tries to negotiate and let him do his job. Right? I mean, so you got a little bit of science, how politics works, a little tit for tat. You go a little give and pull, you got something you wanted and you know, you'll have a chance to digest that name and go through the process that you senators feel you're so important and needed to do. Now get off the guy's back and let him do what he's got to do with Iran.
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And so give and take, Jack, a
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And by the way, so I'm looking at and people are saying, why Clayton? Well, if you go look, he's currently the US Attorney for the sdny and he's the one who's prosecuting Nicholas Maduro. He's the one who has taken up initiatives on companies for regarding regarding a lot of the fraud that's been going on. So he's, he's already been someone who's worked with the president on a number of national security issues like Venezuela. So it seems to me, because of course, people were saying, oh, well, Bill's a businessman, which I thought was a ridiculous attack line on it, because you know, who else was a businessman that went into government? Donald J. Trump, who was elected three times, by the way. And people wanted an outsider to go in and start cleaning things up. So, you know, they were, they were trying to say that and, and even Clayton here doesn't have, you know, a traditional intelligence background at all. He's been the U.S. attorney for the Southern District there since about, for about a year, it looks like about a year and change. So not, you know, more, a lot more in the finance world, a lot more in the Wall street world. Grew up in southern southeastern Pennsylvania, by the way. So I certainly, can't, certainly can't fault him for that. Went to, looks like he went to just pull up his bio, right. Strathhaven High School. I think we I think I used to play them in high school or in football, actually. So interesting, interesting background there. And of course, this, this all is going to come as we know that the Senate and the president have been at odds, as you just said, on so many key pieces of legislation, so many key bills, so many key areas of funding. So that's where the president is coming in to say, you know what? You know what, I don't know how long it's going to take you to confirm this guy. So I went build the Bulldog Pulte in there so he can actually be doing the job from ground from day one and hitting the ground running. And then when we can get Clayton in, when he's confirmed, then we can get him in. That's going to be, of course, the president's prerogative, as all things are. Rich Barris will be on with you for hitting some more as we return from this break. Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice. These are influencers and they're friends of mine. Jack, where's Jack? He's got a great job. All right, folks are back. Jack Paso, Becuman Events Daily. We're here live on Real America's Voice. And Rich Barris, there's, you know, this story that's been heating up in Washington, D.C. a lot of people putting it out. Jonathan Swan over at the New York Times putting this out regarding, I guess it's an excerpt from, from his upcoming book regarding the Epstein Files. And you know, people who follow this program certainly know the entire story because they saw it in real time. But you know, over the New York Times, their readers aren't quite as familiar with it. But Rich, there was an interesting tidbit that I saw in there that I want to get your take on where they said that and I'm not sure exactly what it was, but they said that when it came to the Epstein files, there was polling that was shown to the President that said that Epstein was, was not a top issue for voters. Yep. And that to me was not my experience talking to the grassroots, going to the events throughout 2025, going to campus events that I've gone to and continue to go to with Turning Point usa. It's just not been my experience that that's not an issue that is on the top of voters minds and certainly was in 2025. It was one of the biggest issues and then became an even bigger issue after I guess June of 2025. So what exactly is your take when it comes to that polling that says that, that the Epstein files were like a number six issue for voters?
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This has been a repeated problem that I've criticized now since the beginning of this administration, which is that a fundamental misunderstanding of the MAGA coalition has led to really bad analysis and how the, you know, data has been presented to the President.
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So if you're going to go out in the field and poll and say, you know, do you care more about jobs or do you care more about, you know, inflation, you're. And then putting Epstein on, you know, multiple choice, pick one response kind of format you're fundamentally missing misunderstanding how the Trump coalition views society and unfairness in society and why they loved Donald Trump and why they backed him. So many different groups backed him that would never back a Republican presidential candidate. Now what do I mean by that is unfortunately that polling which did that was used to, to quiet the voices of people who did understand like Vice President Vance. And you know, I think you probably knew this. I did know this. Despite how Dan Bongino is acting in public privately he was pushing for more transparency and he did warn that this was a grave miscalculation and this will cause a grave political injury, self inflicted injury. He was right. The Vice President was right. And yet the people who didn't want to hear that use the polling that you're talking about to misinterpret things. All right, what do I mean by what am I, what am I saying here, guys? The Epstein issue was everything. It wasn't number six, it was everything. Because the Trump coalition voter believes that this class is ruled. And being ruined by a ruling class that gets away with egregious behavior rigs the system not only in their favor, but against them. So when you're talking about people who care about the economy, when you're talking about people who care even about immigration and how much things cost when they go to the grocery store or to the gas pump, they blame that ruling class for all of it. It is all under the umbrella of the Epstein class, which is what the Democrats now have used as a narrative, and they're running with it and why it's being so. It is so effective. And Trump more than anything.
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Rich, Rich, I heard real quick, Richard, stop that. One thing that I've heard is Jon Ossoff. When I look at Jon Ossoff down in.
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Oh, my God, he's brilliant.
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His, he weaves it in and he attacks the president, he attacks his, you know, the family. He attacks various business ventures that the family is involved in, and he, he weaves in and out of this sort of Epstein class narrative. And it's, it's, it's a line where you've seen people, you know on online use it. I've seen the left use it there. I haven't seen anyone who's a sitting senator use it, though, quite as much as John Ossoff. Rokahana, sure. But there's, there's a way John Ossoff does it that I think people would, would, would do well to pay attention to.
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You're totally right. Ossoff is the guy who sounds, sounds it the best, I guess. All right. Sounds that alarm the best. Sherrod Brown is weaving it into his campaign against Ustead, which he's winning in Ohio. Trump just carried that state by 13 and a half points. But I would very much warn everyone and remind everyone that even as Trump won the state by nearly 14 points, Bernie Moreno, who did win, ran 10 points behind the president. You can't afford to run 10 points by. Moreno only won by three and a half points. Brother. That's it. Everyone is always using Trump's benchmarks to go, you know, to, to, to measure against or uses a baseline for Republican baseline performance. And that is a gross miscalculation. And again, I would, you know, just to go back to this Epstein class narrative that they're using. What Democrats have figured out why this is so, it's such a vulnerability for the president is that he was more than anything seen as a symbol, a strong man, symbol who could be their guy, their champion to stand up to all of it. So all of the endless wars they hate, all of the, you know, the rigging of the economic system, the lack of affordability, he was their guy to stand up to that. Even gross injustices in the justice system. Right. How rich and powerful people get away with horrible things and they can't, they wouldn't, never, they'd be in jail long before. Right.
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This is, and let me, let me just, just, just double check this because if there's information that's being given to the President on polling on Epstein that is incorrect, is it, is it possible that he could be receiving incorrect polling information on other subjects as well? Such as, I don't know, Iran, deportations, other, you know, other things like this.
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Great question. And I mean until I can tell you for a fact that is the case. There was just a headline two weeks ago about a poll from that that was done by people obviously who were pushing the Maha agenda and had to deal with vaccines. The poll which was hid and then another poll was conducted and shown to the President, nearly derailed vaccine reform. So this is very, it has very real impact. Immigration, which we've talked about before countless times and maybe some of your viewers even know what I'm talking about. I have long feared the President is not being given correct information on many different levels and this is one of them. And there's really, I mean, as a pollster, there's just no defense of some of the stuff that I've seen, I know about and I've heard. If you don't understand how the Epstein issue. Let's take that and go back to that for a second. If you don't understand how the Epstein issue intertwines and weaves in and out with all of the other issues that make up core key issues to the
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President's face, it's gonna, shouldn't be advising. It's going to create a huge blind spot. Rich Barrister, follow you brother at people's
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Underscore Pundit on X and on the gram.
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Peoplespundent.locals.com Coming on the grand folks, hot on the gram, we got Dr. Chloe Carmichael joining us. Next year, Human Events Daily continues on Real America's Voice.
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Where's Jack?
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Where's Jack? Where is he? Jack, I want to see you.
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Great job, Jack. Thank you.
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What a job you do. You know, we have an incredible thing. We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys
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and these are the guys who be getting Publicist.
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All right, folks, Jack Krasobic. We're back live here, Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice. Now, folks, we know that there's been a lot of stories lately that have caused anger and in some of the things that we talked about. And today, of course, you know, we're trying to focus on something positive like, like the ufc, the Celebration of America. Rich Barris brought up the Turning Point halftime show, which played a hand in getting that off the ground. And one of the goals for that totally was positive Celebration of the United States of America. Remember, that was a halftime show for America's 250th, and that was a halftime show all about. That's why it was called the All American Halftime Show. We called it the All American Halftime show for a reason. It was for all Americans, it was for regular Americans, it was for average Americans. And that's the same type of audience that I believe the UFC Freedom250 is for. It's not for the elite. It's not for the, you know, the bicoastal cosmopolitans. No. Who is it for? It's for the average American. The average American loves ufc, and they're going to be watching and they all want to go, and they're, they're going to enjoy it. But when we look at some of the things, of course, the uk, Belfast is up in arms. We see after the migrant violence there. Henry Novak, that case in, in England and the murder of this young boy and the indifference of the police. Carmelo Anthony, so many of these things. And so wanted to get Dr. Chloe Carmichael on. And I'm a bit tardy because May was Mental Health Awareness Month, but we're doing it in June. That's totally fine. We could talk about it anytime. And she's going to join us now to talk through some of this. Dr. Chloe, how are you?
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Hey, Doc. It's so good to be with you.
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Well, so, you know, there's been interesting study where, you know, I guess case study, you could say, because the Prime Minister of England came out and when these incidents came out in hisand by the way, he may not be Prime Minister anymore because of the way that he's. He just lost his Minister of Defense earlier today, which I should mention that because of the way he's handled sort of the wake of these things, that he's got people very, very upset, extremely angry out on the streets. His own cabinet is resigning on him. And what's interesting, though, is he's attacking the people for being angry, and he seems More upset at those people than the actual things that happened. And so this is what I wanted to kind of get you in on, because he used this line and you hear people say all the time, don't give in to anger. Don't give in to anger. And you know, as a father, I think, you know, there are times where I am angry. And now that doesn't mean I let anger decide my decisions for me, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong to be angry. What do we make, how do we make sense of all this?
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Yeah, exactly. And the healthy function of anger is actually to stimulate boundary setting behaviors. So if we try to stuff down anger, even righteous anger, and we won't acknowledge it, it's like that person who says, no, no, I'm not mad. Right. And they're just like a ticking time, Bob, until they totally just explode. So it's actually by having a healthy relationship with anger about things that should make us angry, like Henry Novak being slaughtered in the street and the police ignoring it, we're supposed to be angry about that. And it's supposed to stimulate us to take action. It's by trying to stuff it down that that's how we end up being passive aggressive or actually, you know, having our anger come out in favor fits and starts.
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And so that's, that's an incredible way of putting it because it's, it is, it's, it's that, as Andrew Breitbart once said, it's that righteous indignation that there are times where something happens and you do actually have a righteous response to it. Now, does that mean that you should, you should lash out and just, you know, you know, cut loose on, on everything? No, I don't think so either. And I think that's, that's where discipline, discipline comes in. That's where, you know, I try to think as a dad, right, that's where you want to teach your children. You know, I have two little boys, you know, teach them to be young men who know how to control these things. And so what would you say would be a good, you know, heuristic or formula for when someone's facing something like this?
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Yeah, well, I want to talk about that because as you said as a father, you try to teach your sons not to just lash out and be wild. One of the first things we try to do is teach people to use their words, which is why it's so interesting, you know, that that politician is actually trying to tell people when he says, don't give in to anger, what he means is shut up and don't talk about this. Don't share that video, and let's all just move on. Let's not talk about it. Because talking about it is actually one of the healthiest things that we can do when we're angry. And speaking of heuristics, I do have an acronym. It's called storm S T O R M. And the S is for speaking up. So, as you know, my book is about the mental health benefits of free speech. We need to speak up and tell the truth and speak plainly that this was an issue, you know, potentially related to mass migration and that, you know, issues, you know, with DEI can create a sense of entitlement or a lack of accountability. We need to just be able to openly discuss the dots and be able to connect them. So speaking up is one of our most important tools of dealing with anger. So in storm, the S is for speak up. The T is for take action. And so you know what that might look like. It could be anything from making sure that you register to vote if you haven't done that already, you know, writing or calling your congressman, sharing that video, making sure the word gets out, and talking about it with people. So Storm S T, O. The O is for organized. Now, I will say the left is so much better at this. They literally are more of a collectivist. That's like, literally, you know what communism is all about. They're really good at grassroots organizing. People on the right, they tend to be more like, don't tread on me. I'll live my life. I'll do my thing, you do yours. I. We need to get better at community and at organizing. So, you know, maybe you want to go on to Scott Pressler's early voting action app and start sending some texts for him. He makes it super easy. The early voting app is a great way, or early voting action app is a great one. You know, maybe you want to go to a school board meeting. Maybe you even just want to wear your Trump T shirt in public. You know, whatever it is, is you're finding some way of connecting with your community, making yourself known.
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So wait, can I, can I, can I mention that the connecting with community part, so you mentioned. And by the way, organizing, of course, turning point USA, turning point USA, turning point U.S.A. and turning point Action. You know, if you, as Charlie would say, if you know, find a chapter. If you can't find one, start one. And when you mentioned community, though, whenever I see someone, I always tell my wife, Tanya, Tay, who's, Who's here on the studio, on the side here today, that, you know, whenever I see someone in the wild with a, you know, a Trump hat or a bumper sticker or a shirt or even just anything conservative, you know, I always make sure to go out of my way if I have to cut across an airport or whatever it is. I don't cut across traffic, though I am tempted to that. To just let them know, hey, that's a great, great shirt you have on right there. Or, hey, I love your hat. And I just. I make sure to say something to them because there's such an atomizing feeling when you watch mainstream media, you know, to feel as if you're, you know, there's no one out there who thinks the same as me. There's no one out there who, you know, feels the way that I feel about what's going on. And I see politicians or media figures come up and say that, you know, I'm wrong to think the way that I do. So that's. It's funny you mentioned that about the T shirts. I do that. I've literally been doing that for years.
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Yeah. Yeah, that's it. That's a really good one. And, you know, I encourage people to just, you know, Google for your local political action groups, Turning Point usa, all those things, and, you know, wear your T shirt. You know, that's. That's a great way to connect with the community.
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And then I do it. We do it at. We do it at. When. When my kids play baseball, you know, sometimes I'll just throw on a Turning Point shirt and, you know, know, see who comes up.
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Yes, yes. I've done things like that, too. And I mean, it's. I'll admit, like, it's actually kind of scary sometimes almost, because as you said, it can be so atomizing. But at the same time, you know, you find out real quick who your friends are in the room, right? So it can work in both directions. So in storm, if you find yourself angry about some of these events and you go through speaking up, taking action, organizing. The R is for reflection and prayer. So, you know, always taking that time. Remember, prayer is an action, too. So taking time to go to church, that's another great way to connect with community and try to get some guidance from God, give that anxiety up to God, connecting in that way. And then the M is for move your body. Right? So just like at the UFC thing, when we get angry, we get a natural spike in adrenaline and energy. So even if it's just, you know, going for a run or Going for a walk. We have to make sure we give ourselves a physical outlet, all that extra energy.
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I love that. I love the way that you're putting these all together. These are things we do that, you know, the Poso household, you know, we, I love doing this because I'm thinking about this in terms of not just, you know, for the country, for the movement, for politics, but just for individuals. What's something you can do in your, in your day to day life? And we do, we go to church, we try to make time for prayer every single day. We go to church every week, I should say. And so many of these things, people lose that and then they might turn to other things to try to fill that void when in reality everything you're talking about seems incredibly healthy. This is a great conversation we're having. Dr. Chloe Carmichael, we're always so happy to have her on. One more segment, Human Events Daily. Right back. This, the Jack Posobic Appreciation Hour. I can say confidently, I believe, I think Josh Shapiro would be the vice presidential nominee if it wasn't for Jack Posobic.
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Folks, we're back. Jack Posobic, Human Events Daily. Real America's voice. You're looking at some of the footage earlier today of that ufc, the preview that I got to attend at the White House, some of the octagon, some of the shots out of there. And I'm also being told that Secretary of State Marco Rubio and Dana White are actually signing a partnership right now regarding diplomacy in, you know, diplomacy in, through mixed martial arts and fighting. And it's true, by the way, that UFC is very international. It's always been very international. This is something where, you know, regardless of what, what's going on in the world's politics, that you can still bring the people of the world together for something like this. And so actually, Dr. Chloe, let me ask you this, because that's been sort of the thesis, the theme of the show today, if you will. I went to the, you know, the UFC celebration slash preview earlier today. We know the big fight is coming up on Sunday. And, you know, it's something that I think the President is putting together that regular America, middle America just absolutely loves. It may not be the cup of tea for your urban city dwelling liberal, but at the same time, you know, when we did the Turning Point All American halftime show, it was the same kind of theme. We were trying to push forward this idea that everyone can unite around one thing, you know, love of the country. And if, you know, and by the way, if UFC isn't your thing, there's a state parade, there's going to be a state fair in D.C. there's going to be military appreciation. So many things about coming together and loving the country and, yes, putting on some, some championship fights, that's pretty much part of Americana and, and certainly modern day Americana. Does that theme help with unity nationally, the idea of having one united identity that people should celebrate?
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Yeah, of course. And I think that's exactly why, as you're saying, there are certain, you know, people, typically by coastal elites, that hate it so much. Right. Because UFC is, it's certainly about physical fitness, it's about competition, it's about masculinity. Of course, they label it as toxic. Right. So it hits all the buttons that drive a lot of people crazy. But for those of us who are not crazy, who just want to enjoy some really good clean fun, some excitement, some exhibition of strength and camaraderie, I think it's going to be an amazing time.
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And so this is something, though, that I, you know, obviously, one of the main underpinnings of Donald Trump's movement politics issues that I talk about on the show all the time is the issue of identity, and in particular, national identity. And so that idea of, of, you know, what does it do to the mental health of a nation when you do have millions upon millions of this Biden wave of people coming in from all different corners of the world that are. You're bumping up against in your towns and your neighborhoods and schools, and suddenly you're like, wait, I don't recognize what's going on. And, you know, we're told, oh, we need to be tolerant, and how dare you talk about this. That. But I do think that does something to a nation's national health.
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C
Oh, yeah, it does something to our mental health in many ways, and to our financial health and, you know, our societal health on many levels. So, of course, when we just bring people in, many of whom actually openly dislike our country, who openly acknowledge that they're pretty much here to essentially rape us of our benefits or maybe try to take over our political system, because they weren't able to do it through open warfare, and so they're going to infiltrate in more of a Trojan horse sort of a way, and then, as you said, moreover, we're expected to pretend it's not even happening, to not talk about it. That, of course, is one of the big themes of my book is, you know, can I say that why free speech matters and how to use it fearlessly is that we have to be able to talk about it even if we're, you know, wrong about certain things or, you know, maybe we're right about one part and wrong about another part. We have to be able to have a debate without having it be called hate speech or Islamophobia or, you know, xenophobia or anything else. It's the opposite of that, actually. It's a total willingness to engage about the topic and to want to see things clear clearly and to discuss them. And when we tell people, you know, shut up, racist, you can't do that. Of course, as you said, we're fracturing our national identity because our national identity is built upon freedom of speech and the open pursuit of happiness. So how can we have that when we tell people that they're not allowed to express themselves about something as basic as citizens citizenship and what it means?
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I think that's so key. I think that's so absolutely key. And we had a whole, you know, a whole episode a couple of weeks ago. And so my mother was a big participant in the 200th bicentennial in 1976 at Valley Forge, Pennsylvania, and she wrote an incredible piece talking about how united everyone felt back then and, and how together people were. And this was a time that, in the 1970s, where the president had just resigned and there was this huge scandal of Watergate and Gerald Ford came to speak at Valley Forge. He would go on to later lose that election. And yet there was something about that bicentennial 50 years ago that was so incredibly unifying that I can see from the White House's perspective. Perspective, that's what they're trying to evoke. And yet there seems to be so many of these forces actually trying to divide in America today. And that really is some of the big changes that have gone on in the last 50 years.
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Yeah, I remember seeing your post about that, that people were actually going in covered wagons across the country to like attend some of those events. And of course, I think a big difference is at this time time, we have so many people in our country who look at the founders of our country as, you know, God awful, racist, sexist homophobes or whatever. Or, you know, we have people in our country, many of whom even have deep roots in our country. It's not even people who are just here illegally. Many of them have been trained through our academic systems to not know the beauty of our history and to hate our country. So. So of course we have a different result when we try to gather people together to celebrate our country than we had actually years ago.
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Actually, Doctor, I have to ask you about this because you just clicked on something in my brain that it almost feels like certain people get addicted to their anger when they get angry about, particularly angry about the United States, angry about President Trump. We call it tds. But this actually is a form of addiction, isn't it? Because it's like, if this makes you so mad, why do you keep looking at it? If this makes you so upset, why not, as you say, go, you know, just put the phone down and go read a book or go for a walk or something. And yet people seem to be getting addicted to wanting to lash out at the President all the time.
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Yeah, I think it's a few things. So the people who have tds, and I was actually, as a clinical psychologist, I really want to, like, actually write an article about how we have to start taking TDS seriously with.
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Please do. And please publish it at human events, because we do that in a heartbeat.
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Yeah. Thank you. Unfortunately, so many psychologists themselves do have tds, Right? But I think a lot of the people that have tds, they're not only addicted to the anger, but it's attached to a sense of personal superiority.
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Right.
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So there's a smugness about it. And so that's why they're attached to it, because it gives them this sense of superiority. And the same segment of people tends to be the least religious. And so they're trying to fill that spiritual place, that connection to God place, with this sense of political superiority. And so I think that's why they're addicted to it. They're chasing something within that. That, of course, they'll never find that.
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You just blew my mind that. Absolutely. The fact that the most TDS people are the released religious people, the sense of superiority. I'm going to tell the producers right now, guys, we're going to make sure that Dr. Chloe writes this article, and then you're coming on. We might have to do an entire hour on this. This was amazing. Dr. Khloe, where can people go to follow you, get more information about what you're putting out?
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Yeah. Thank you. Freespeechtoday.com and I love to pop in virtually to book clubs. So if people want to do that, just come to Free Speech today dot com.
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All right, check her out, folks. Check out her stuff. And remember, love your country. Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay ashore. Sam.