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Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec
The American Populist Fight for Deportation Hangs in the Balance
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Jack Posobic
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Vish Burra
That number is expected to rise.
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Jack Posobic
It's in response to Ukraine's drone attack deep inside Russia, which experts say was a game changer in terms of modern warfare. A U.S. army official warns the American military is not doing enough to keep up with the kind of drone warfare now on display. President Donald Trump's administration on Thursday imposed sanctions on four judges at the International Criminal Court. It's an unprecedented retaliation over the war tribunal's issuance of an arrest warrant for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and a past decision to open a case into alleged war crimes by US Troops and Afghanistan. A federal judge in Boston has granted a temporary block on President Trump's move to ban foreign students from traveling to the US to attend. Harvard man accused of firebombing a peaceful.
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Charlie Kirk
Rally in Boulder, Colorado.
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Jack Posobic
Mohamed Solomon will appear in federal court today. A big ugly breakup over President Trump's big beautiful bill between President Trump and Elon Musk. Musk slamming the President's budget bill for too much spending and not enough cuts. The President threatening to pull Musk's $38 billion in government contracts and subsidies. Musk warning the Epstein files are being kept secret to protect the President.
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Charlie Kirk
Not only making the Trump tax cuts permanent, but the largest package of working class middle class tax relief that has ever been proposed. You combine that with unleashing American energy, getting rid of wasteful regulations, and also very importantly, getting the illegal aliens out of the country who are driving down wages for working people. This is the most working class bill.
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Jack Posobic
That has ever been proposed. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily. Live from Washington, D.C. today is June 6, 2025. Anno Domini 6 June, 81 years since the D Day invasions of Normandy, France. Here's a question. Would the boys of Omaha beach recognize the America of today? What were they fighting for? Is the country today the kind of country that the boys of Omaha beach wanted? I would argue that it's not. And you can talk to them. Many of them, not as many as before, but many of them are still around. Many people know people who knew them. And one of the ways that we can get back there is get back to that. America is through ending the migrant crisis. The migrant crisis is the largest and most significant change to America. It is the largest and most significant crisis facing America today. Let me ask you a couple of questions. Lake and Riley, Rachel Morin, Jocelyn Nungary. Did the debt and the deficit kill those American women? Was it the debt that did that or was it illegal migrants? I think we know the answer to that question and we know the answer to all these questions. These are the people who should not be here. And President Donald J. Trump was elected to remove them. When I went to the rnc, what sign did I hold? It was the one they passed out and it said mass deportations. Now everyone go see the pictures. I remember what was said at every single one of those rallies, every single one of those events that we went to. This package that the president has put together and staked all of his considerable political capital on, yes, there are tax cuts and by the way, no tax on tips, no tax on overtime are massive game changers for the working class. But it is the mass deportations that were the mandate from almost 10 years ago. We're 10 days away from the 10 day anniversary of MAGA when President Trump came down the escalator and said we are going to build a wall and deport the them all and we finally have the chance to actually do this. And let me tell you something, we're going to. We are going to no matter what. We'll be right back. Stand what America first truly means. Welcome to the second American Revolution. Well, ladies and gentlemen, here we are back Human Events Daily. We are live on Real America's Voice as well as the Salem Radio Network coast to Coast. Our three Charlie Kirk's audience want to bring them in Folks, we're going to get into a lot today. We're going to talk about the battle of the billionaires and get back to the issues. We're going to talk about the issues at hand and the bill that has been put forward for the mass deportations and ending the migrant crisis in America. First, I want to tell you about today's episode sponsor Think about it. 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Look, when we do these international trips with human events daily, it's thanks to Patriot Mobile that we're able to have the connectivity that we, that we need wherever we might be in the world. We could be in St. Peter Square or we could be down in southeastern Poland. And here's the best part. When you switch to Patriot Mobile, you're supporting faith, family and freedom. If you believe in our first and second amendment rights, the sanctity of life, and supporting our veterans, this is where you belong. Switching is simple. Keep your number, keep your phone or Upgrade. Patriot Mobile's 100% US based team will get you activated in minutes. So right now, go to patriot mobile.com poso or call 972patriot to get a free month of service with promo code poso. Make the switch. Defend freedom with every call and text. That's patriotmobile.com poso or call 972 Patriot. Folks, I'm going to lay it out for you real simple. Real simple. The MAGA movement exists because of mass deportations. It exists because of the immigration issue. Period. Full stop. When Donald Trump came down that escalator 10 years ago and everything that's happened since, the lawfare, the canceling, people losing their bank accounts, the arrests, the trials, the assassination attempts. Do you really think that we've come this far to just throw it all away now? No, I don't think so. Why is it that there's always plenty of money to send to Ukraine, plenty of money to send the military over to the Middle east, plenty of money for all these things, but suddenly when it comes to actually funding something, that's for the American people, people, the American worker, the American family, American mothers and fathers and American children. Oh, and then we got to be. Oh, now we got to be fiscally Responsible. Now we got to be fiscally responsible. I'm sick of it. I'm sick of it. 10 years. We are not stepping back one step. And if I see anyone taking one step back, then you are going right on the list. We got Vishbur on, folks. This. You got to take the mic, man. I'm about to say something that I shouldn't say right now. Vishborough producer Matt Gaet show Oan take it away, Vish.
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Charlie Kirk
Jack, this is really, really simple. Like you said 10 years ago, President Trump came down that golden escalator, went right to the podium that day and made his case for why he's running for president. And it started with the illegal immigration issue. I mean, he had those viral moments where he said that the Mexicans are sending all sorts of criminals and rapists and drug dealers and all that was the leadoff. And that hasn't changed since. And by the way, over the years, Jack, you go to the rallies, they chanted, build the wall, Build the wall. And then when it came to the 2023, 2024 rallies, guess what? The people in the rallies were not waving signs that said cut deficits now. They said mass deportations now. And you know, I think that one of the Donald Trump is one of the best marketers ever in the history of the world. And you know, when he came out with this big, beautiful bill aesthetic, and it's really a signal that Donald Trump is trying to keep his promises, that's his number one superpower with his base is keeping his promises. This big, beautiful bill does exactly that. But I think he would have gotten just a little step further and said that this is the big, beautiful deportations bill. This is ultimately what this bill is addressing on a magnitude we've been fighting for, for over a decade. It finally finishes the wall. It mandates that a million people be deported every, a million illegals be deported every year. It also kicks off illegals on Medicaid and all these programs. And it is so hyper focused on making sure to deliver on the promises Donald Trump has been making, not just for the last election, not just for the last five or five years or so. It is for the last decade, ever since Donald Trump came down that golden escalator. So Donald Trump is yet again delivering on his promises. That's what this bill is about. That's what our fight, maga's fight has always been about. It's been our number one issue since time immemorial. And we are going to stick by our guy, by his side, have his Back when he's trying to address our number one priority, which is immigration.
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Vish Burra
It's.
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Jack Posobic
It's always been number one. It is the single. This isn't the Jeb Bush movement. This isn't the, you know, the, the Mitt Romney move. That's why Romney lost, is why. That's why Paul Ryan couldn't even win his own home state of Wisconsin. He was humiliated in his own home state. Okay, a joke, an absolute joke. But you know who won Wisconsin and Michigan and Pennsylvania, by the way. Wait for it. Wait for it. Not twice, but three times. It was Donald J. Trump. Donald Trump is the one who won, and not just because of who he is. All right? He could have run up there and said, I'm going to give tax breaks for all the wealthy and do this for my buddies and do all this. And guess what? He would have gone down like Michael Bloomberg. People even forget that Michael Bloomberg ran for president. No, he came up and said, I'm going to finally do something for the American people and do so at the detriment to my businesses, to my net worth, to his own lifestyle that he walked away from. This is the difference, Vish, there is a difference between money and power, ok? When someone is willing to risk everything and lose everything, that is how you win the will of the people and doing the will of the people. And I'm sorry, but there's only one man that I saw in Butler, Pennsylvania, who stood tall while bullets were flying, with blood running down his own face, fist in the air, yelling, fight, fight, fight. And that's Donald J. Trump.
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Charlie Kirk
That's right, Jack. And think about all the sacrifices President Trump has made and continues to make to deliver for us, the American people, when we asked him to be our champion, be our fighter, and he offered it and he did it. He went and faced down every single nefarious entity, every single nefarious force that was trying to take him out. I was trying to take his family out. I was trying to take out his empire of businesses, his wealth, his. His everything, his existence, his name. They tried to erase Donald Trump from the. From the historical record of earth. That's what these people have been trying to do. And then they tried to literally remove him from the earth as well back in Butler, Pennsylvania. This is. These are all the things that. That Donald Trump has faced to get to this point, to get. Be duly elected by the people and have their will in his. In his political capital. These are. And not only that, it's not just him, all his supporters who had to go through all of those things as well. This was a hard fought victory for maga, for the, the MAGA base and for the American.
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Jack Posobic
We have a quick break coming up. We're on, we're on with Vishbura. Vish and you and I were there. We were there the day of his first arraignment in Manhattan, that cold Manhattan morning in March, back in 2023, standing up with bullhorns saying, we don't care what you have to say to us. We don't care what you do to us. We don't care anything because we're going to stand here and we are going to keep fighting. When nobody believed in this movement, when nobody believed that he could come back to political office, when no one believed that a comeback was possible, we stood in the breach. Why? Because he stood for us. We're going to take a quick break and be right back here. Jack Posobic, Vish Borough.
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Vish Burra
Today. You know they talk about influencers. These are influencers and they're friends of mine. Jack, where's Jack? Got a great job.
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Jack Posobic
All right, Jackson, here we are back, Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice, Salem Radio Network. Folks, this bill is everything that we've been fighting for, for 10 years. And I'm not saying that there aren't, you know, some perfect issues that we can talk about. I'm not saying that this is like some out handed by God. And we live get. Folks, we live in the real world, okay? We live in the real world. This is how political reality works. And at the end of the day, the MAGA movement has always been about what it's been about, getting the economy right for the middle class and working class. And that's mostly through trade, but also through economic policies that are populist. It's through mass deportations and it's been ending the foreign wars. You worried about, you're worried about the debt, you're worried about the deficit? Well, how about we stop sending hundreds of billions of dollars to Ukraine and which nobody ever seems to have a problem with when it comes to this, and then we use that money to fund the deportations. Vishbura, why is it that there's always money for war but never money for things that actually help the American people?
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Charlie Kirk
Well, this is the entrenched unit party establishment in play, Jack. Right. This is also part of what we've been trying to fight as MAGA and what we've been trying to support. President Trump's effort in and trying to drain the swamp and make DC in maga's image. Right. We have been running the primaries, we've been recruiting candidates, we've been on the ground pounding, we've been over the air promoting our ideals, our candidates, and we've been slowly remaking D.C. and the Congress, the Senate, the White House, in Maga's image. But it's a slow process. It takes time. And there's still established establishmentarians and uniparty people who are still in there, who still make sure that their priorities are being funded. And look, if we had won a larger majority that's padded by a ton of MAGA votes, yeah, maybe we would have gotten more of what we wanted. But as the majority in the Congress is constituted now, and this is what we can get and that, you know, and it's no small feat to get what we wanted on the, on the border wall, on the deportations, on the, the, the 10,000 new ICE officers. To get all of that in this bill, with this Congress, with the Republican makeup as it is, it's actually an incredible feat to be able to get this thing through the Senate. It would be a historic bill, and it would really set the tone on what is possible in D.C. when you have the power, when you've worked hard over the last decade to take those halls of power. This would be a monument to Donald Trump's legacy and successes for, for everything he's. He's. All the work he's put in for over a decade. And so we need to make sure that we bring this thing home and get it through the finish line.
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Jack Posobic
I completely agree, Vish. One of the other things that, you know, sort of the elephant in the room a little bit close to home. So one of the top issues as well, by the way, freedom of speech and also, by the way, freedom of the press have been huge issues throughout the course of this, by the way, because they've been trying to censor us because we are for mass deportations. People need to understand that was the issue that caused the censorship in the first place. And I've always committed and continue to commend Elon Musk for this. But also we are looking for some help at the fcc and we're looking at ways, many ways to digital Bill of Rights, various things that could be done to actually help fight the big tech oligarchy and big media oligarchy. And it seems that one of our friends, Gavin Wax, is now potentially in contention for one of these spots at the FCC that has come up. What are your thoughts on it and where do you stand?
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Charlie Kirk
Well, it's actually quite. I'm sure the honor and the privilege to be even mentioned in that conversation for Gavin. But, but we know Gavin very well, Jack. Right. There is no question about his loyalty to President Trump. There is no question about his efforts for the MAGA movement on the ground over the air, his writings. He's done everything for this movement. And I don't think, again, there's no question about his loyalty and his views and where he stands on the issues. But I think that one point that needs to be kind of pressed on us a little bit is that Gavin Wax is probably the person with the most bipartisan, broad appeal to be. To fill this role. You know, Gavin has. Is very strong on the issues of unions, on the issues of labor, on the issues of rural broadband and connectivity, on the issues of localism and local news and local and local organizations being funded to. To be able to address.
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Jack Posobic
That's right. But it's, you know, and Gavin Wax is uniquely qualified for this because he understands the threat to free speech and he also understands the role of big tech and big media in this country. I think he'd make. If the President so chose, I think he'd make a fantastic addition to the fcc. See Vishburg, go give him a follow. We'll be right back. We're gonna be talking Ukraine, talking about that war that just won't end between Ukraine and Russia. We return.
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Vish Burra
And Jack.
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Jack Posobic
Where's Jack? Where's Jack?
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Vish Burra
Where is he?
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Jack Posobic
Jack, I want to see you. Great.
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Vish Burra
Good job, Jack. Thank you. What a job you do. You know, we have an incredible thing. We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys, and these are the guys who'd be getting policies.
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Jeff Webb
It was a deliberate strike. And it only confirms our suspicions that the illegitimate regime in Kyiv that came to power through a coup is now being reborn as a terrorist organization and its sponsors become supporters of terrorism. Recently, the Ukrainian government and their allies dreamt of inflicting a strategic defeat on Russia on the battlefield. Now they are withdrawing from the battle zone, fleeing. And now the Kyiv regime is trying to resort to terrorist attacks. At the same time, they're asking for a ceasefire. They're asking for top level meetings. How can we organize such meetings? Something like this is happening. What is there to talk about? How can we negotiate with those.
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Jack Posobic
Who.
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Jeff Webb
Are resorting to terrorism? And why should we reward them with cessation and hostilities, allowing them to receive additional weapons, to continue their mobilization and to prepare for more terrorist attacks like those in the Bryansk and Kursk regions.
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Jack Posobic
All right, folks, Jack Kobek here. Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice, Salem Radio Network. Charlie Kirk, Hour three. That was President Putin. It's been translated into English. But that was President Putin declaring that after the attacks on Russian civilians and a civilian train, the attacks on the strategic bombers that he now views, and the Kremlin now views the Ukrainian government essentially as terrorists. And of course, in the Russian parlance, they would then come back and say, well, we refuse to negotiate with terrorists. This also comes amid a massive reprisal from the Russians, sending ballistic missiles, cruise missiles and hundreds of drones, massive drone swarms across every single region of Ukraine last night, all the way up to the border with Poland itself, the NATO border. And so, huge reprisal. And so many analysts in Washington, D.C. have told us that the Russians don't have the reserves, they don't have the military capacity to be able to do this. Well, guess what? Russia never divested of their manufacturing base. They never did. The United States did. They also are willing to tap their own economic resources and their natural resources, oil, liquid natural gas, all of it that's out in far East Siberia. They're using it, they're selling it to the Chinese, they're using it to flood the, the zone and to prop up the BRICS nations. And oh, but don't tell me, by the way, that the sanctions are really stopping that. This is how they're, this is how they're getting around a lot of this while they continue to, to fill their coffers. And Europe, by the way, Western Europe is still purchasing Russian gas because they have to. It is just cheaper. It is just cheaper. And that's what's going on. So this, this is a huge turn in relations. I wanted to bring on someone that I've been chatting with about this for a little while on, on the backside, but not, not on the show yet. But I want to bring him on because I think he has a lot of interesting things to say. It's Jeff Webb. He's the CEO of the Human Events Media Group and a business entrepreneur.
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Vish Burra
Right.
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Jack Posobic
Jeff, you know, hearing this latest out of Ukraine, what does this mean for the peace talks? What does this mean for the peace process?
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Vish Burra
It's very concerning. It's very disturbing. I think. Rather than moving with some type of momentum toward peace discussions, starting with the ceasefire and so on, as President Trump has attempted, we seem to be going the other direction. I mean, we're getting real escalation here. And I really worry that the opportunity for real peace discussions has come and gone and that maybe even a year ago, I think the Ukraine was in a stronger position to have those negotiations. And now again we see with the attacks on the Russian air bases last week, and then of course, the attacks you mentioned just now on Ukraine by the Russians, it's. Things are going the wrong direction, there's no doubt about it. And I think you make a very good point, Jack, about the Russians abilities to rearm. And we have been hearing, you're right for months, for months from military, so called military experts that Russia was going to run out of, you know, military armaments. And it seems to be just the opposite. And that that's concerning as well because now you've got this Russian army and this Russian military that is getting all this battlefield experience and that's concerning. You know, that one of the things they've said about the US Especially after Vietnam was even though that was a big problem, you know, the military really, you know, had experience on tactics and how to do things differently. Well, the Russians are fighting a modern war and they're starting to do better and better. And now they've, they've armed themselves, they built up their manufacturing for their war, for their war capability. So all the way around, I think it's not good.
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Jack Posobic
So Jeff, if you had the ability to, to reach out to, and obviously we have senators and members of Congress who watch the program and are listening, potentially listening on, on the podcast side or, or live on Salem Radio right now. If you had the ability to reach out to them, what would your advice be given the current situation between the two sides?
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Vish Burra
That's a tough one, Jack. You know, I, it's not so often.
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Jack Posobic
That we have someone who's been involved in international negotiations and dealing with these types of coalitions and things at this level. So, you know, I figure if Steve Witkoff can do it, then maybe, maybe we could tap some of Jeff Webb's expertise as well.
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Vish Burra
Fair, fair enough. It doesn't make any easier, but fair enough. You know, I think that, I worry that the Europeans, frankly, who have a much different situation than we do, they're a lot closer to this. You know, the Western Europeans have been fighting the Russians, you know, on and off for hundreds and hundreds of years, back and forth over the Ukraine and Poland and so on. And there's a lot of mistrust there. You have to look back also at the fact that the Russians lost, you know, nearly 9 million soldiers during World War II. 17 million civilians. 17 million. And so there's a lot of mistrust on that side as well. I think somehow, some way, I think it can't be done without the US I think President Trump right now is in a very tough position. I'm not sure he has the cards to play. You know, he was talking to Zelensky and I mean that with all respect. It's just that I don't know that we have a lot of influence right now. It's not the right time. But the Europeans have seemed to be much more kind of hawkish than we have. And when the British are going to a war footing and they're talking about putting, the French are talking about putting boots on the ground in Ukraine, that's really going the wrong direction. It's somehow, some way, we have to get our way to a cease fire where, as President Trump said, at least the killing stops and somebody's going to have to make their first move. I don't think the Russians are going to do it. I think it's going to have to be the Ukrainians, unfortunately, just because of the history here.
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Jack Posobic
Well, Jeff, coming at it from a negotiator standpoint, you know, Ukraine obviously is very entrenched in their position. And, you know, they're fighting this war for their survival in many cases. And they're willing, as we've seen, to go to great lengths to conduct these attacks, which Russia then responds and calls them terrorist attacks, saying you're hitting bridges, you're hitting trains, obviously this huge, very audacious plan to attack the strategic bombers across all of Russia. But yeah, but when it really comes down to it, do you think this is going to get done without having ultimately Trump and Putin talking to each other and really making that one on one deal between the two of them?
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Vish Burra
I think it will not stop until that ultimately happens. It's, it's a matter of getting to that, to that position. Listening to what in the, in the piece you ran before you and I started talking here, listening to Putin's position as far as, you know, viewing what he views as escalation on behalf of the Ukrainians. Look, there's two sides to it. Always the Ukrainians feel the same way. But you're right about the Ukrainians fighting for their homeland and their survival. Again, if you go back over history, you know, especially those eastern provinces, they are very Russian oriented and it's, the lines are not so clear, unfortunately. But I think that somebody has to stop shooting and the other hopefully will respond and it probably will take sanctions, severe sanctions to make that happen. You make a great point about the Europeans still buying Russian oil and gas. So in effect they are fueling the conflict. So it's complicated. It's just something I hope that, you know, we don't find, you find our own country drug into. It's happened before. I hope it doesn't happen again.
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Jack Posobic
Well, and this, this became a huge issue. So I just got back from Europe, met with Prime Minister Viktor Orban and had the opportunity to meet the now president elect of Poland. And one of the things that Viktor Orban said during our meeting, and I asked him about this regarding the negotiations and he's tried and folks remember, and he took a lot of, a lot of flack for this and a lot of criticism because he went to the Ukrainians in Kiev and he also went to the Russians in Moscow when Hungary held the head of the European Commission and he was the president of IT last year. And he said, look, we want peace on both sides. But unfortunately both sides were telling him that we believe that we are winning. So we went to the Russians and he said, we're, they said we're winning. We believe we have time on our side. And then he went to the Ukrainians and they said, we believe we're winning and we have time on our side. And this just goes to show you that it really feels like there's a lot of recalcitrance on both sides, a lot of galvanization, obviously, as happens with these types of wars, but there's just no appetite for, even in a place like Poland, where my family's from. But even in that election, if those results show, there isn't an appetite even for them who have a lot of reasons to not be fans of Russia, a true enemy in her adversary, I guess, in a, in a classical sense. But they don't want to go to war either. And that's really what this comes down to.
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Vish Burra
No, no, I think you're absolutely right. And I think you, you know, history tells us that when you have this kind of ongoing back and forth conflict at a certain level, so it's just a matter of some miscalculation and pretty soon you're in something really, really major. And we have to remember, of course, that the Russians have, what is it, 4,000 nuclear weapons. And we just have to always keep that in mind. And I think that the Europeans are going to have to come to their own conclusions about the fact that there has to be peace. I mean, Russia is a much larger country than Ukraine.
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Jack Posobic
Jeff, we have a quick break. Hold that thought. Because I want to, I want to unpack this in the next segment. The European angle on all of this is so important and it's going to be what changes everything.
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Vish Burra
Jack is a great guy. He's written a fantastic book. Everybody, when he's talking about it, go get it. And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event. And we're going to turn it around and make our country great again.
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Jack Posobic
Amen.
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Charlie Kirk
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Jack Posobic
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Vish Burra
Yeah, I think it definitely can be. I mean, I think Steve's done an amazing job so far, by the way. And, you know, just having been involved in a lot of business negotiations and transactions. And, you know, I, I think your point, Jack, about not, not bringing in some ideological position that perhaps puts you in a, in a difficult place as far as giving and taking. And, you know, you're just kind of blinded to some extent sometimes. And I, I think when you bring somebody like WH in, who Trump says, I want you to make this deal. Well, he can always get the advice of diplomats and experts. And Miller, oh, I can get all that. But he's charged with, how do I do the give and take here? How do, how do I really find out what is the most important thing to each party? How do I find out what they could give a little bit on? How do I try to, try to change it so that maybe it's a different approach and they can live with that? That's what true negotiation is. It's very difficult. And it's very difficult. Especially now. You're not only dealing with money like in business, you are dealing with politics and sometimes religion. When you get to the Middle east, it's a tough job. And I think somebody with that kind of business background, I think is the right kind of person to lead those negotiations. Ultimately, you only have to look back, frankly, at the, you know, at the previous administration with, with Anthony Blinken and Jake Sullivan. And I mean, it's very difficult to really identify anything that they got accomplished in all four years. We did end up with a couple of wars while they were in charge, not blaming them, but they just weren't effective. And I think Steve Witkoff already has been more, more effective than they were in their four years.
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Jack Posobic
Well, you know, actually when, so when Secretary Besson had me on, another businessman, by the way, coming in, had me on that train to Kiev back in, in February, and we were, so we were on the presidential car and they were telling us, they said, oh, this was the same car that, that Biden had used. And we were on the, this, this, this sort of conference room car that they had on the back of the train. And they said, and Jake Sullivan was here, too. And I, and so I asked the, the attendant, you know, sort of a, like a conductor, and I said, so which, which seat did Jake Sullivan sit in? He said, is this one right here? I said, all right, I' on the train. And Secretary Bessett, look, and I appreciate too, the way that he came at this. And obviously, you know, the deal hasn't quite gone the way that I think a lot of people were hoping, but he offered this, this mineral deal to Ukraine in terms of economic interests, said, and this has been something President Trump, again, as his businessman, looking at it, say, look, we want to get something out of this. We put so much in, and if Ukraine's not going to be able to refund these loans, then perhaps there is something that we can get in terms of these rare earth minerals or some of the other mineral rights out of there. That's just what how a businessman thinks. That's not how anyone in Washington D.C. thinks though, is it?
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Vish Burra
No, it's not. And I think the other thing about that positioning was that, and this is a lot, kind of a longer term play, but you know, when you have countries that are doing business with each other, when you've got industries that are interacting within the two countries, they don't really fight as much. And so I think just starting, starting that process, getting in business with them, having more say in what they do. And the same thing with Russia. I mean, we, I think that we should be looking for ways. I know that sounds almost like heresy to some people, but we should be looking for ways to be doing business with all of these countries and perhaps you can, you can break the cycle of these kind of facilities.
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Jack Posobic
I think that's what it is. I think it's what it all is about. Folks, this is Jeff Webb. We're just about out of time here for the program for the week. Jeff, shout out your book again so that everyone understands how they can learn a little bit more about this for themselves as well.
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Vish Burra
You know, it's, it can find it on Amazon. It's, it's all about the middle class, which is what I grew up in, and different things that I think just kind of practical knowledge. It's called American restoration.
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Jack Posobic
Absolutely. Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have our permission. Lay ashore.