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Matt Boyle
A commentator, international social media sensation and former Navy intelligence veteran.
Jack Posobic
This is Human Events with your host Jack Posobic.
Matt Boyle
Christ is administration officials tell CBS News President Trump signed a proclamation to ban travel from certain countries such as citing national security risks.
Tim Kennedy
We will not allow people to enter our country who wish to do us harm.
Matt Boyle
Ordering a wide ranging investigation into former President Joe Biden and his aides. Trump is accusing the aides of covering up Biden's alleged cognitive decline and using the auto pen to sign bills and assert exclusive presidential power, including on pardons, executive orders and other documents. President Joe Biden's White House secretary announced she is leaving the Democratic Party. According to a press release about her upcoming book. Kari Jean Pierre will be registering as.
Jack Posobic
An independent on the deportation of the Colorado firebombing suspect's family.
Matt Boyle
Arizona's Democratic Governor Katie Hobbs has vetoed a bill preventing Chinese ownership of land in the state. The Republican backed legislation barred the Chinese government from holding a stake of 30% or more in any Arizona property. Friedrich Mares took office just weeks ago.
Unnamed Speaker
And while he and President Trump have.
Jack Posobic
Spoken on the phone since then, this.
Matt Boyle
Will actually be the first time that they've met in person.
Tim Kennedy
But I'm very disappointed because Elon knew the inner workings of this bill better than almost anybody sitting here. Better than you people. He knew everything about it. He had no problem with it. All of a sudden he had a problem. And he only developed the problem when he found out that we're going to have to cut the EV mandate because that's billions and billions of dollars.
Jack Posobic
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily here live. Washington, D.C. today is June 5, 2025 Anno Dominique well, the battle of has begun. President Trump and Elon Musk trading shots back and forth, one in the Oval Office, the other on X. And people have seen this completely going back and forth, the spiraling, the tweets, the comments Everybody seeing it here, and here's what I want to say, and I want to preface this with what I said on the show yesterday. Debt is important. The debt is an important issue. Of course it is. It absolutely is. This is something. And you go and look at the work we've done talking about the bond market here, talk about the work we've done talking about deficits, talking about the reason that we need tariffs to be able to reset all of these things. The debt is an important issue. Of course it is. Farm policy is an important issue. Of course it is. All of these things are important issues. But there is one issue that is more critical to not only the political backbone of all of MAGA and the existential future of the United States of America, and that is the issue of immigration. There are too many migrants in this country and they are driving up prices everywhere. They're ruining all of our systems and by the way, driving up our debt through direct and indirect use and abuse of entitlement programs. Okay, if you want to have a country, you need to mass deport at least 10 million people, probably a lot more than that. I'm saying that is the ballpark conservative estimate of how many mass deportations that we're going to need. And then self deportations will commence. This must be done. Programs like H1B, H2B J1, all of these other programs out there that are rife with abuse, that needs to be taken care of. If you want to have a country that has a debt to worry about, that has foreign policy to worry about, has all of these other things to worry about, that's what you've got to do. So there's a category error going on here. It's a category error. Are we going to have a country or not? Because right now, this bill, the big beautiful deportation bill, that's what it is. It's in the Senate. It could be passed. It can get through. It only needs 50 votes. And JD can break the tie and we can actually get our country back and set the table to be able to address all of these other issues. That's what Donald Trump ran for. That's what we voted for, Donald Trump. I didn't vote for anybody else. I voted for Donald Trump. And all of us voted for Donald Trump to be President of the United States. And these were the issues he ran on. Be right back. What America first truly means. Welcome to the second American Revolution. All right, Jack Paso. Look, we are back here. Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice, the Salem Radio Network live in Washington D.C. want to bring in our three Charlie Kirk audience here. The battle of the bill. We're going to be talking about all of this and more on today's show. But folks, first, listen up because I got a question. If you are still drinking that corporate watered down nonsense that you call coffee, do you think it's time for a serious wake up call? Because blackout coffee isn't just coffee. It's a statement, a declaration that you're done with weak beans and weak values. We're talking high octane American roasted fuel for those who grind harder, stand taller and never back down. Look, I love blackout coffee. This is what keeps me going. No jet lag post. So that's how you get that, especially no dad lag when you're dealing with kids stuff or just house stuff in general, car trouble. Blackout coffee isn't playing games. 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But the main thing and the main thrust I think for Trump supporters and Trump voters is the understanding that this is the bill that gets us mass deportations. This is the top issue. This is the number one issue for Trump supporters. And now we're seeing this huge backlash. Now, it started as a backlash in the Senate. Budget hawks and deficit hawks like Rand Paul had come in on it. A few others, Mike Lee and Ron Johnson who had some issues with it, but now Elon Musk weighing in and we've seen it. Just an absolute missive over on X. Boyle, walk us through what's going on with this bill.
Unnamed Speaker
So first off, I would say that the backlash that you're seeing, quote, unquote, I don't know if I would say it's as big a backlash as people think. I think the Republicans in the Senate are going to find a way to get a version of the big beautiful bill that's probably pretty similar to the House passed version through the United States Senate probably by the end of the month, that would be my guess. Or maybe by early July. And then they're going to get a bill to the President's desk. And why is that? Because there's so many things that ride on this. The President's entire agenda and legacy are on the line here. In addition to that, the entire national economy is on the line. If they don't pass something, the 2017 tax rates are going to expire. We're going to have a massive tax hike on Americans of every income bracket across the country. So from lower middle class folks, I mean they're going to see huge tax increases on them if they don't get, if the Senate doesn't get this done and if Congress doesn't get a final product to the President's desk. In addition to that, as you mentioned, the bill has all sorts of things in there with regard to immigration enforcement. It's really incredible stuff like more ICE resources, more. It's just more and more and more for immigration enforcement. So there are some things that some conservatives didn't necessarily like in the, in the House, but the, everybody but one Republican in the House, and that's Thomas Massie, voted for the bill. So even the, the hardest core conservatives, like Chip Roy and those guys, they voted for the bill. Right. Like. So the fact is, is that why would they vote for that when it increases the debt ceiling by $5 trillion and which amounts out to about two years? Well, because of all the other stuff that's in there now. There are people out there that think that the bill should be doing doge cuts. This is not the place for DOGE cuts. DOGE cuts happen in recessions and in the appropriations process. This is a reconciliation bill. So process wise, you can't do doge cuts in this because the doge cuts are discretionary spending. This is mandatory spending stuff. They can do some Medicaid stuff and whatnot. There's other people that, you know, like Rand Paul that want to see the, the debt ceiling pulled out of this and voted on clean or a, you know, shortened significantly. He says he would be willing to go. I, I talked to Senator Paul a little over a week ago. In fact, I think it was my interview with Senator Paul that really kicked a lot of this stuff off. But he said to me that he'd be willing to go to like three to six months or something on the debt ceiling in there. Now, part of the reason why President Trump wants to have a two year debt ceiling for $5 trillion in this thing is because at a certain point you're going to come up on the debt ceiling date anyway. And when that date comes, you're either going to make a deal where the Republicans vote for it, and frankly, the vast majority of the Republicans don't like to vote for debt ceiling increases, or you're going to have to make a deal with the Democrats to get it done, because they're never going to let the nation default. Nobody's ever going to let them go over the debt ceiling and default. So this is why President Trump has even advocated something that even Elizabeth Warren has advocated as well. So there's, you know, populist, bipartisan support for this, of getting rid of the debt ceiling altogether. Now, I don't know if Republicans would go for that, but the fact that the vast majority of House Republicans, a majority voted for, in the House voted for a two year debt ceiling increase is a, is a big deal. And I would imagine that the Senate will figure out a way to get there. Now, at the same time, you also have, as you mentioned, Elon Musk and what he's going through here. Obviously, this comes the week after Elon left the White House. It does seem like this is a pretty bad breakup between the two of them. I've seen Elon Musk out there taking credit for Donald Trump being the president. There's no doubt that Elon Musk helped President Trump in a big way last year during the campaign. But the idea that President Trump would have lost without him is just nonsense. Like that's, it's totally untrue. And frankly, Elon's not the president. Trump is right. Like, so Trump is the people, the person that people voted for. The American people entrusted the man who's in the Oval Office to make these decisions for them and to lead the country. And he's the leader of the movement. So it does seem like this is a little bit of a bad breakup. There are some things between the two of them. In particular in the bill, specifically, it gets rid of the electric vehicle tax credits and whatnot. Elon has said that he's okay with getting rid of those, I guess. So he's okay with that staying in the bill. But that would cost Tesla a lot of money. So that's one thing. As to one motive for him, there's also some bad, by the way.
Jack Posobic
Like, I, I wouldn't even, you know, I wouldn't have even had a huge problem. And I'll just say this, I wouldn't have had a huge problem if that was still in the bill, if the tax credit for EV was still in there, honestly, for everything, because of everything that he did do, as many people did. No one did as much as Donald Trump. But sure, fine. It doesn't really bother me that much. Why? Because of what I was saying before, that if this gets us, this is politics. Right, guys? It's politics. Right? It's not like you don't get to come in here and say, oh, well, I want this perfect thing and that. No, no, it's politics. It's about cutting deals. That's how that works. So if that's the deal, if you get this support and then other things down the line and he was the ev, like, it's honestly, I'll make that deal. If it means we get the mass deportations, I will make that deal. Why? Because mass deport are that important. One minute to the break. Matt Boyle.
Unnamed Speaker
Yeah, look, I, I would just say, though, I have been tracking what Elon is doing and saying for many months now, dating back to the election last year and since then, and there's always been something uneasy with him. Right. He, he opposed the tariffs. The tariffs are a massive source of revenue for the federal government. Even the CBO admits the tariffs are going to raise significant amount of revenue more than this bill would lose. Right. Like, so he's opposed to that. He's been opposed to immigration enforcement. So he's been somebody who has been weakly aligned with President Trump anyway over the course of this year. And seems like this breakup, if you will, has been destined to happen for some time. He's never really been a natural fit at President Trump's side. It's been obvious from the beginning. And I think that what you're seeing now play out is, was destined to happen. And I think that the Senate Republicans and the Congressional Republicans writ large understand that get it. And they also understand the importance of the moment here. And they're going to do everything they can to get this done.
Jack Posobic
Quick break, Matt Boyle, Jack Posobic coming right back.
Tim Kennedy
Today. You know, they talk about influencers. These are influencers and they're friends of mine. Jack, where's Jack? Jack. He's got a great job.
Jack Posobic
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Unnamed Speaker
Well, creating a new political party is a lot of work. The you would need to fight to get ballot access in a whole bunch of different places. You would have to. It's not as easy as it sounds. It's not like just calling up a bunch of buddies and saying, we're going to start a political party and you know, voila, Monday morning and started. No, it's just there's a lot of work that goes into starting a political party. Could he do it maybe? Could he focus for more? Let's put it this way, it takes a lot more than 130 days worth of work to start a political party. Right. Like so, you know, I mean, he worked for 130 days in the White House and the administration. He did a lot of interesting and cool and important stuff. And I know that the President viewed all the things he was doing there as very important at those. But the, the fact is, is that, you know, you don't just get the phone in it and you know, you have to actually do the work. It's going to take a lot of work, a lot of money, etc. I don't know if that works out so well. So maybe you never know. Right. Like, but it's been since what, the 1800s sometimes when, since the last time we had a, you know, a new major political party come on the scene. We've got two parties in this country that' how it works in America. You've got a two party system. Either the Republicans win or the Democrats win. And the fight is inside. The Republican Party, frankly, for conservatives, is about electing better Republicans. And look, we've gotten a lot better Republicans over the last 10 years or so than we had, you know, when I first started this whole thing, you know, 15 years ago when I was working with Tucker and Bannon back in the day. But the, you know, those numbers, you know, they could be a lot better still too, right? There's still a lot of bad guys.
Jack Posobic
Well, you know, we did, by the way, and I've explained this to, you know, even people on the left. I've been, you know, kind of been doing some interesting podcasting lately with people I don't usually talk to. But I've always said MAGA was a third party. Okay. This was essentially a third party that was founded within the Republican Party and it sort of started with the Tea Party. And a lot of that Tea Party DNA flowed into maga. And that's the genesis of how this movement got started. And so the fights were between the Democrats and the establishment Republicans. It's like, it's like we have to go back and explain to people what happened. And we're coming up actually on the 10 year anniversary of the escalator. And it's, it's amazing that people like you think this is just something that happens overnight. No, no, it took us a decade of a lot of work and going through a lot of crap just to get to this point. Final minute. Matt Boyle.
Unnamed Speaker
Yeah, look, and, and there's still more work to be done. Right. Like, so we're finally. Mitch McConnell's still a senator, right? Like so think about that. Right? He's been a senator since the 1980s. He's still a senator. He will be until next year. But there's a huge opportunity upcoming in Kentucky. Right. There's all these, there's these two McConnell guys running and then there's a Trump aligned guy, this guy named Morris that's running. So we'll see if that, you know, that's another pickup opportunity. Right. But each, each time there's an open seat, each time there credibly winnable primary, that's where to get engaged, to actually continue to move the needle. But it's, I think that Elon gets frustrated and I agree with this, rightfully so that, you know, the things don't happen fast enough. As much as I would like to.
Jack Posobic
I think, I think the frustration is, is understandable. I do. But you know what, that's gridlock. That's politics. That's Congress. Welcome, welcome to the game. Matt Boyle, go give him a follow, folks. Breitbart.com Jack Posobic coming back right after this break.
Tim Kennedy
And Jack, where's Jack? Where's Jack? Where is he? Jack, I want to see you. Great job, Jack.
Jack Posobic
Thank you.
Tim Kennedy
What a job you do. You know, we have an incredible thing. We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys and these are the guys should be getting policies.
Jack Posobic
All right, Jack Posobic, we are back live real America's Voice and Coast to coast on the Salem Radio Network bringing in of course, that third hour of the Charlie Kirk program. So we got into this dust up between Elon Musk and President Trump and that's obviously still ongoing. I'm sure President Trump's going to have some interesting truth socials for us as that comes and we'll, we'll be looking for it if, if it does or perhaps, you know, perhaps we're going to get a phone call and maybe the two of them will, will talk things out of me. Just got off the phone with Putin yesterday. He was on the phone with Xi Jinping. So we know how President Trump is when he's being diplomatic. However, I know someone who, who isn't always diplomatic. And, and, and sometimes you need other, other methods to solve your issues. And when, and when you do, you might turn to, I don't know, former Special Forces sniper like Tim Kennedy. And Tim Kennedy joins us now. What's up, Tim?
Unnamed Speaker
Hey, how you doing, Jack?
Jack Posobic
Yeah, I mean, I'm just saying, like, you know, I don't, when I think of Tim Kennedy, I don't think of diplomacy. You know, I'm saying that's other options, other, other methods.
Unnamed Speaker
Yeah, I mean, sometimes the type of peace that we want is going to be on the far side of war. Obviously, I'm a big proponent of violence. I'm quick to, to turn to violence, but, you know, I'm, I'm happy that for the first time almost my entire life, we are not at war. So this is a nice change.
Jack Posobic
Well, no, I certainly agree, but it's, it's interesting, though, because you talk to some of these guys. I was in a. It's funny you mentioned that, because I was in a debate with this, the libertarian candidate for president, Chase Oliver, last year, and, and we're talking cartels, and we were talking the, the narco in the rat lines across the border and fentanyl and, you know, the whole nine yards of the issue. And, and I, and I said. He said, you know, you're never going to stop this until you stop the demand. And in the, you know, north of the border. I said, yeah, I agree, that's a problem, but I do think there's other options we could use. And he said, what options? Like what? And I said, well, we could just kill them. We could, we could just kill. We could just go after the cartels and use violence to kill them and disrupt their networks and actually take them out. And, and you should just look on like deer in the headlights, totally frozen. Frozen, going in a vapor lock. The moderators, like, turning at me like, what?
Unnamed Speaker
What?
Jack Posobic
You can't say that. What do you mean, I can't say that? Of course there are cartels. There's certain types of people that, you know, the diplomacy and the negotiation and, oh, socioeconomic issues, it just ain't going to work. But if you take them out, that actually works pretty well.
Unnamed Speaker
Yeah, and I think that's going to be a really accurate representation of some problems that we're going to be having in the coming conflicts. We are not going to be fighting against state actors. You know, we got so comfortable fighting this. This named bad person. Right? Like these radical, fundamental, violent extremist organizations or, you know, like the Germans or the Koreans or the. But now, moving forward, we're going to be fighting proxy armies. Like, we can label them Hamas and Hezbollah and the Houthis, but really they're just branches of a state actor that's funding other organizations to fight against us. Just like we're going to be fighting corporations, we're going to be fighting cartels, we're going to be fighting syndicated criminal organizations and Internet and international criminal groups. It's just not going to be the type of warfare that Americans have ever understood, but that's the warfare that we have in the Future. And you're 100% right. The only way that these people understand win or lose is, is really bodies on the floor. So it's, it's going to come down to who's dealing the death and we're going to have to do it well.
Jack Posobic
And it's, and it's incredible too, because yeah, they say, oh, these cartels, you're talking about it like it's, you know, like it's a, like a business operation or something. Are you like, guys, have people seen what's going on just south of our border? In many cases, north of our border. I'm sorry, we weren't even planning on talking about this. But it's so crazy to me when you look at the level of brutality that various cartels are operating in. And in fact, that's how they become the top cartel in many cases, some of which unfortunately at times receive training from our own US Military, then turned around, broke away from Mexican special Forces and then began forming their own cartels where they're doing beheaded things, they're doing family reprisals, they're doing all of this stuff. And so when President Trump and Pete Hegseth, who's doing a fantastic job over as our SEC def. When they actually start turning towards this problem set, I predict that unfortunately there's going to be a period of time where things get worse before they get better.
Unnamed Speaker
Yeah, I totally concur. You know, and the, the type of violence that we're going to be seeing are the, the things of horror stories. You know, these are people skinned alive that are hung from bridges. Like the best thing that could happen is you're decap, decapitated. That's, that's not really what the cartels are doing is they're trying to send a message. They are recruiting the poor, they're recruiting the uneducated and they manipulate them via leverage of, hey, we're going to destroy your family, we're going to torture your sister, you know, we're going to murder your wife and your kids if you don't do these things for us. But this is the type of warfare that we have ahead of us, you know, and we're, we're at a very unique position where our hero level adversaries, they want to see disruption and instability and lack of security within the United States. So when you see Iran and you see China, you see Russia, like let's call a spade a spade. We're, we're currently in, in a variety of ways, at war with them. And those countries are using mechanisms like the cartel to destabilize Americans. They want fentanyl in here. They want pornography on our screens. They, they want our border to be a mess because it's easier for them to operate. And a destab. America is a vulnerable America for them.
Jack Posobic
Well, of course, look, they understand they're not going to be the Americans in a peer to peer battle. The Chinese aren't going to beat us on, on, on the water and the Russians are going to beat us on land. We get that. However, they, they also understand that if they can get us fighting each other, if they can get us bogged down, if they can get us totally either, as you say, wrapped up on fentanyl, wrapped up on pornography, which is sort of a digital fentanyl to begin with, then guess what? But we are going to be so worried about those internal issues and so much internal division that we're not going to be able to deal with any of these things. And one of the things that I think President Trump is, is rightfully doing so is also looking around the world and understanding, okay, where do we need our footprint the most? Where do we actually. And he's, he's going through an assessment. He's going through. And it's like an audit, right? He's doing a business audit and he's a businessman of our foreign policy to say what makes the most sense for us. Where can we cut a deal? Or by the way, where is something we can cut a deal and say, look, we've got Gulf partners here, they could deal with this issue better than we can. Why? Because it's in their own backyard. So they can deal with this. Let's build up that partner force capacity, have them come in, take, you know, they'll deal with the Shia militia group or whatever it is. Don't have to put our guys in harm's way only when it matters. And then taking back some of these other issues here back at home. But you know, one of the things, and they wanted us to talk about this, and my producers are mentioning it as well, but they're talking about my Patriot supply because unfortunately, I do predict that we are going to go through this period of instability as all of these geopolitical forces are aimed at the United States, when the United States is going through all of this and President Trump is helping us to rebuild Fortress America, which has been totally forgotten. But guess what? We're going to have the Chinese, we're going to have the Iranians, we're going to have the Russians, we're going to have the cartels. I was going viral the other day talking about what you really think. The Chinese haven't spread drones up through the border and put them on all that farmland right next to our bases, do the exact same thing that the Ukrainians just did to the Russians. Of course they have. Okay, so what's the response going to be when they do that? And, you know, one of the things that said, look, President Trump's going to help with that, but one of the things that my Patriot supply is doing right now, they're coming in and saying, look, there's instability, there's issues with the power grid, which we know that obviously there have been sabotage networks in this country that have been targeting our power grid. It's just clear at this point, based on all the things that you're saying. You know, it's, it's so obvious to me. So that's why I think it's so people know my patriots apply for the food. They've just come in. Tell me about this new grid, Dr. 3300 that they're releasing for the summer, which is the perfect time to do it.
Unnamed Speaker
Yeah, that thing's incredible. I couldn't agree more, Jack. You know, we, we have some very scary times ahead of us. And you, you can only prepare for a crisis before the crisis occurs. So you have to have this stuff in your home before we. Our entire infrastructure is, is incredibly vulnerable. And we've seen that time and time again, whether it's one boat that hits a bridge and then that entire area can't even get fuel. You know, the power falling in. In Texas, for example, we had one bad storm. We lost power for almost a week. There are rolling blackouts during a fire. We just have a much more vulnerable system. And we've been comfortable because it's been really, really, really nice. But there are scary times ahead of us. And that power bank, you know, you can stack these batteries. You have solar panels to recharge them. I use them in my Land Cruiser when I'm camping, when I'm going overland. That grid. Doctor, I have been in Ukraine, Afghanistan, Mexico, using all sorts of different battery packs. These are the best ones out there. I, I mean, I travel with my family with them. I have all of my meat backed up with that battery wall and using all of those, you know, the mechanisms to recharge those batteries, so I never have to worry about it. Then I don't have to live in fear. So Then no matter what happens, I know I'm good, I know I'm, my family's good. It's kind of back to that very original American idea of individual responsibility. I'm not going to be looking for the government to come and help me or save me because the government's going to have its own problems if the grid falls, if we're having difficulties purifying water. Nobody's going to come and save you. You're going to have to self rescue and you're going to have to have everything that you need. We used all of this stuff in western North Carolina after Hurricane Helene. We're dropping those battery packs in with Elon Musk's starlinks to give people connectivity. So then we're able to find out who is actually in, you know, surviving by a thread. And these, these are the exact tools that we used to save lives.
Jack Posobic
And this is, look, and by the way, folks, I don't want this stuff to happen. I would much prefer this stuff not to happen. But I also understand that for our country to get where we are now and to solve the problems that we do have right now, we've got to pass through this crucible. We just do. And this stuff isn't going to go away without a fight. And that will cause issues that's going to cause. Go look at the grid in Western Europe which just fell apart, just completely fell apart. The grid down in South Africa, it only works for like 12 hours a day and they do rolling black south. So the east side has power now, the west side is power. You got kids in South Africa right now that are doing their homework with, with flashlights, you know, flashbulbs attached to their heads basically because they don't have power. They can't even charge their cell phones. And so that's why. And, and look, folks, I don't want any of this to happen, but I want my family to be ready, right? And my friends, my loved ones to be ready should something happen. And that's why when you look at the grid Dr. When you look at the sub stuff that my Patriot supply has and we've got it up my patriotsupply.com Jack, you go, you take a look for yourself. You take a look at the deals that are out there right now. There are some great deals and boom, you can have that peace of mind. I always say, you know, when it comes to their, when it comes to their food kits, just grab one, throw in the trunk of your car. Just throw in the trunk of your car. You have some car trouble. I actually had some car trouble this week. I mentioned it the other day and I didn't have the kids in the car with me. But God forbid, right? God forbid. Because we got two little boys and you know, they start getting a little antsy. They need a little something and you just, you're waiting for that tow truck, aaa, whatever it is, you got something that's going to be on. So my Patriotsupply.com Jack, they've got two waterproof 200 watt solar panels that you can get in for free. That's a 900, almost 900 value. It's a ton. Go and check it out, folks. We're on with Tim Kennedy. We've got a quick break right now. We're gonna come back. President Trump's response to Elon is out. We're going to read that for you right after the break. Stay tuned.
Tim Kennedy
Jack is a great guy. He's written a fantastic book. Everybody's talking about it. Go get it. And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event. And we're going to turn it around and make sure our country might begin.
Unnamed Speaker
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Jack Posobic
Human events daily, Washington, D.C. president Trump has responded to Elon Musk. And as promised, you know, we're not going to pull punches here and certainly President Trump isn't either. We're going to read it in full. So President Trump's first response, Elon was wearing thin. I asked him to leave. I took away his EV mandate that forced everyone to buy electric cars that nobody else wanted. He knew for months I was going to do it and he just went crazy. That was the first Truth Social. The second Truth Social, though, is much, much more over the top than this one. He says the easiest way to save money in our budget, billions and billions of dollars is to terminate Elon's governmental subsidies and contracts. I was always surprised that Biden didn't do it. So we're on with Tim Kennedy, folks, and we've been talking about the domestic inst. Destabilization, and I guess we're seeing a little destabilization here. But, Tim, you and I were just chatting during the break as we were reading these, that, that people aren't used to seeing this because this is the way that, that alpha males communicate. This is the way that men talk to each other when they have a problem. They hash it out. They go hard. Guess what? This is how my brother and I talk to each other when we go at it. Right? He's still my brother, but when we go at it, we go hard and we go hard in the paint. This is not the rule by consensus. Biden, like, oh, let's go have a committee going to go hard and then we're going to make the decision. What's your take on all this?
Unnamed Speaker
Yeah, like, I couldn't agree more. Like, this is, this is actually effective communication. What? And I know every C suite HR person's pulling their hair out. Like, you can't talk like this in government. No, this is actually how you get things done. When you have high agency people that aren't looking permission, looking for the permission of other people about how to say things, when to say things they're not going to say, hey, let's take a vote about if it's okay for me to push back on this idea. President Trump is the president. And then Elon Musk was an advisor, you know, a special employee, but he really had no authority or authorization that wasn't granted by the president. So you have to be on that team. You're 100% behind the president. Or if you're not value added, then you're going to be a detriment to the objectives, the initiatives that the president's trying to do. We, everybody knows that Elon Musk is brilliant, as does President Trump. President Trump is going to be absolutely to direct. We're just not used to this being public. We're not used to people having these communications in front of billions of other people. But that's what's happening. These are just two high agency people that are trying to hash it out a little bit. And we have to, you know, well, I guess we get to sit and watch with a little bit of popcorn.
Jack Posobic
They were all along for the ride. But no, I actually appreciate this. You know, this is something where, you know, in the past we're always asked. We didn't even know for four years who the President was. And it probably wasn't Joe Biden. We had this auto pen and whoever was controlling it, did Hunter Biden pardon himself, all this. And right now you're actually seeing this. I don't know, part of me wants to step back and say you're seeing something that, as you say, would normally be behind closed doors, but what an opportunity to actually see how the sausage is made, how the decisions are going down, how these conversations are happening. And. Yeah, and what two better individuals on the planet than two of certainly the most powerful people, the richest man in the world and the most powerful president in the world. Just. Just having it out.
Unnamed Speaker
Yeah, we just saw President Trump, you know, at the border and there's a video, it's from Secret Service, where they wanted to pull him off to the side to do an interview. And he said, well, one of the people right here said that it's not safe for to go over there. Even like, if that were President Biden, if a handler had said, hey, you need to, to shuffle over there, he would have just walked over there mindlessly, you know. But what we see is, is we see the man in charge. We see the proper executive in the White House, in the West Wing, that's making deci decisions. And you're either going to be supporting him. You know, if you, if you are one of the appointees that were then confirmed, you are 100% going to be in that camp. Whether you are a former Democrat, whether it says director, director or secretary in front of your name, you are going to work for him, with him, to support his agenda, his initiatives as part of this administration, or you're going to, you're going to get the Ryan of a couple of true social posts.
Jack Posobic
Look, I said it before, I'll say it again. I voted for Donald Trump in the election. I didn't vote for anybody else. JD of course, was on the ballot as well, but that's who I voted for. That's who America voted for. It was a team effort. Of course it was a team effort, was a coalition. Of course it was a coalition. But again, again, this is how high agents. I love the way you put it. This is how high agency individuals communicate. And you just got to see it. Tim, we are just out of time. Where can people go to follow you, brother?
Unnamed Speaker
Yeah.
Tim Kennedy, MMA on the social medias, you know, but like, just keep fighting for this America, that this war is not over for our country. Got it. We won in November. We have to keep fighting. Do not count your wins. We got to keep fighting. So Jack, thank you for everything that you do.
Jack Posobic
We God bless. Likewise, folks. And go be sure to check out my patriotsupply.com. jack ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay ashore.
Podcast Summary: Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec
Episode: The Battle Of The Bill - Huge Schism Over Mass Deportation Bill In Congress
Release Date: June 5, 2025
In this episode of Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec, host Jack Posobiec delves into the intense political turmoil surrounding the proposed mass deportation bill in Congress. The episode highlights the significant schism within the Republican Party, the unexpected opposition from influential figures like Elon Musk, and the broader implications for America's immigration policy and economic stability.
At the heart of today's discussion is the Big Beautiful Deportation Bill, a legislative effort aimed at addressing what proponents view as critical issues stemming from immigration. Jack Posobiec emphasizes the bill's importance, stating:
"There are too many migrants in this country and they are driving up prices everywhere. They're ruining all of our systems... If you want to have a country, you need to mass deport at least 10 million people, probably a lot more than that."
— Jack Posobiec [02:17]
The bill seeks to implement large-scale deportations and introduce stricter regulations on visa programs perceived as prone to abuse, such as H1B, H2B, and J1.
While the bill garners significant support within the Republican caucus, it faces opposition from budget and deficit hawks like Senators Rand Paul, Mike Lee, and Ron Johnson. Matt Boyle provides insight into the internal dynamics:
"There's a category error going on here. Are we going to have a country or not? Because right now, this bill, the big beautiful deportation bill, that's what it is. It's in the Senate. It could be passed. It can get through. It only needs 50 votes."
— Jack Posobiec [02:50]
Despite some Republicans' reservations, the majority in the House has shown strong support, with only Representative Thomas Massie dissenting.
A surprising twist in the legislative battle emerges as high-profile entrepreneur Elon Musk publicly criticizes the bill. This opposition has led to a visible split between Musk and President Trump, escalating tensions within conservative circles. Tim Kennedy addresses Musk's stance:
"He's been somebody who has been weakly aligned with President Trump anyway over the course of this year. And seems like this breakup... has been destined to happen for some time."
— Matt Boyle [14:08]
Jack Posobiec reflects on the confrontation between Trump and Musk:
"President Trump's response, Elon was wearing thin. I took away his EV mandate that forced everyone to buy electric cars that nobody else wanted. He knew for months I was going to do it and he just went crazy."
— Jack Posobiec [35:32]
This public disagreement underscores the challenges within the Republican Party to maintain unity on key issues.
Beyond immigration, the episode touches upon the pressing issue of the national debt. The proposed bill includes a $5 trillion increase to the debt ceiling, sparking debates among conservatives about fiscal responsibility versus legislative priorities. Matt Boyle elaborates:
"The President's entire agenda and legacy are on the line here. In addition to that, the entire national economy is on the line. If they don't pass something, the 2017 tax rates are going to expire. We're going to have a massive tax hike on Americans of every income bracket across the country."
— Matt Boyle [08:06]
This highlights the bill's multifaceted impact, intertwining immigration enforcement with broader economic policies.
Looking ahead, the future of the deportation bill remains uncertain. Matt Boyle anticipates that Senate Republicans will navigate through opposition to advance a version of the bill similar to the House's. He notes the strategic importance of timing, considering the impending debt ceiling deadline:
"At a certain point you're going to come up on the debt ceiling date anyway... So this is why President Trump has even advocated something that even Elizabeth Warren has advocated as well. So there's, you know, populist, bipartisan support for this, of getting rid of the debt ceiling altogether."
— Matt Boyle [08:06]
The discussion underscores the bill's potential to reshape key aspects of U.S. fiscal and immigration policy, contingent on legislative maneuvering and party cohesion.
The episode also explores the broader landscape of American politics, including the possibility of new political movements emerging from within the existing party structures. When asked about Elon Musk's suggestion to form a new political party, Matt Boyle responds:
"Creating a new political party is a lot of work. You would need to fight to get ballot access in a whole bunch of different places. It's not as easy as it sounds."
— Matt Boyle [17:28]
Despite challenges, there is an acknowledgment of persistent efforts to energize and expand the conservative base, reflecting ongoing tensions between traditional party lines and emerging factions.
In the concluding segment, Jack Posobiec reads President Trump's direct response to Elon Musk's criticisms, highlighting the President's firm stance against opposition within his advisory circle:
"President Trump's first response, Elon was wearing thin. I asked him to leave. I took away his EV mandate that forced everyone to buy electric cars that nobody else wanted... The second Truth Social, though, is much, much more over the top... terminate Elon's governmental subsidies and contracts."
— Jack Posobiec [35:32]
This exchange exemplifies the high-stakes political environment and the challenges of maintaining unified support for legislative initiatives amidst prominent dissent.
Jack Posobiec wraps up the episode by reiterating the significance of the mass deportation bill for the MAGA movement and the future of the United States. He emphasizes the collective effort behind the initiative and the critical role of leadership in navigating the nation's challenges.
"I voted for Donald Trump in the election. I didn't vote for anybody else. JD of course, was on the ballot as well, but that's who I voted for. That's who America voted for."
— Jack Posobiec [39:07]
The episode provides a comprehensive look into the complexities of contemporary American politics, particularly focusing on immigration policy, party dynamics, and the interplay between influential public figures.
"There are too many migrants in this country and they are driving up prices everywhere. They're ruining all of our systems..." — Jack Posobiec [02:17]
"The President's entire agenda and legacy are on the line here... We're going to have a massive tax hike on Americans of every income bracket." — Matt Boyle [08:06]
"Elon was wearing thin... I took away his EV mandate that forced everyone to buy electric cars that nobody else wanted." — Jack Posobiec [35:32]
"Creating a new political party is a lot of work... it's not as easy as it sounds." — Matt Boyle [17:28]
"I voted for Donald Trump in the election. I didn't vote for anybody else. JD of course, was on the ballot as well, but that's who I voted for. That's who America voted for." — Jack Posobiec [39:07]
This episode of Human Events Daily offers listeners an in-depth analysis of the current legislative battles, the fractures within political alliances, and the strategic maneuvers shaping the future of American governance.