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A commentator, international social media sensation and former Navy intelligence veteran.
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Jack Posobiec
This is Human Events with your host Jack Posobic. Christ is King.
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News Reporter
In the moments following the assassination of Charlie Kirk at uvu, George Zinn was in the crowd and falsely claimed he had shot Kirk. Today he was sentenced to up to 15 years in prison. Zinn pleaded no contest to obstruction of justice and guilty to two counts of sexual exploitation of a minor.
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Jack Posobiec
On Iran, the Supreme Leader today said.
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Rich Barris
That US Path could spark a regional war.
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Audience Member/Fan
Why wouldn't he say that? Of course you're going to say that, but we have the biggest, most powerful ships in the world over there. Very close couple of days, hopefully we'll make a deal. If we don't make a deal, then we'll find out whether or not he was right.
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Narrator/Reporter
Outrage growing as new details emerge from the millions of newly released Justice Department records on convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. They include Epstein's messages with powerful men. In these messages from 2013, the convicted sex offender connecting New York giants co owner Steve Tisch with various women. In one exchange, Tish asked about a woman writing pro or civilian? In a statement, Tish acknowledging a brief association where we exchanged emails about adult women, but saying I did not take him up on any of his invitations and never went to his island. Tonight, pressure building on Andrew Mountbatten Windsor following the release of millions of pages of Justice Department records on notorious sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, including these photos, undated and lacking context, showing the former prince crouched over a young woman. House Democrats had asked the disgraced royal to appear for questioning in November as part of their ongoing probe of Epstein's alleged accomplices, but lawmakers say he failed to respond. Now UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer weighing in, saying, I have always said anybody who has got information should be prepared to share that information in whatever form they are asked to do that. Andrew just one of several prominent figures across politics, finance and tech, now mentioned in the files.
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Jack Posobiec
Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard. Today's edition, Human Events Daily. Here live Real America's voice. Today is February 2, 2026, Anno Domini. Today, of course, Groundhog Day, where Punxsutawney Phil home in my beloved state of Pennsylvania saw a shadow today, which of course means six more weeks of winter. However, I've always thought that they kind of have it backwards. Like if he sees his shadow, doesn't that mean the sun's out? And if the sun's out, wouldn't that mean that it's getting more warm? And that means. I don't know. I don't know. Look, this is my thing. I say it every year. I'm saying it again. What you just saw, by the way, was incredible footage, just awe inspiring, iconic, historic footage of the Minneapolis leftists erecting their fake Somali flag, going up there, the greatest theater kids that Minneapolis has to offer. And in fact, one of them being so great that he himself is so immense, so massive, so super sized. Look at the guy they have holding this thing down. I mean, this dude is like, this dude's like Fat Al. He's like the white Fat Albert, basically. You can't even see his head. And yeah, they're up there. Ladies and gentlemen, I regret to inform you the theater kids are at it again. But on in the world of good news, many people are asking, Jack, what's going on with this halftime show? The Super Bowl? It's the show. You know, you guys were so upset. Bad Bunny, you said that you were going to do a halftime show. What's going on with that? What's it. Well, have no fear, have no fear. It is super bowl week. And as such, we are announcing and have now announced, I guess about an hour ago now, the lineup for the Turning Point USA All American Halftime Show. And what can I say, guys, I couldn't be more excited about this lineup. I couldn't be more into this. You've got not only some of the best performers in the country, I would go so far as to say the best in the entire world. And I'll tell you right now, for America's 250th, why wouldn't you want performers that actually love the country, that actually are people who celebrate who we're with, who we're for as a country? Why wouldn't you want that? This is going to be our opportunity to show you with Brantley, Gilbert Lee Bryce, Gabby Barrett, and of course, the kid himself, Kid Rock. You know, there's actually a fun story about Brantley Gilbert that, you know, a little background here between a little bit of the Post lore that myself and Tanya Tay, believe it or not, one of our very first dates ever was going to a Brantley Gilbert concert. And the way the date started was this. It was. It was her me saying, like, hey, Trump just won the election. What are you doing this weekend? Because it was around that time frame. And she says, well, I'm going to this Bradley Gilbert concert, but it was sold out. And I'm like, okay, well, how do I get tickets? It sold out because she was going with some of her girlfriends. And. And I said, I was like, I'll figure out a way to get in. And so, yes, I snuck in to the Brantley Gilbert concert to go and find Tanya Tay, and I made it all the way in. Funny enough, I actually, Brantley was performing at one of the Turning point America fests a couple years back, and I. I told him that story. I may have left out the sneaking in part. So, guys, we can. I know this is live. We can edit this in post, right? Producer Russ. We can edit this in. Okay, we're going to be editing lots of things in post because don't be Don Lemon, boys and girls. Don't film yourself committing crime. We'll be right back. Human Events Daily.
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Audience Member/Fan
And our golden age has just begun.
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Jack Posobiec
This is Human Events with Jackson Sobic. Now it's time for everyone to understand what America first truly means. Welcome to the second American Revolution. All right, Jack, we're back here live. Human Events Daily. So, of course, we just had the huge announcement. Everyone in the country is talking about it now. The Turning point USA All American halftime show. Why would you want to go watch a.
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Auron McIntyre
A.
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Jack Posobiec
What were they calling it? A celebration of queer history that hates America, that says they. They. The guy was up at Bad Bunny was up on the Grammys last night saying he hates ice. That ice is so bad. See, that's. That's strange because to me, you know, when I think of ice, I think of someone and a group of people that are getting the pedos out of the country because they're actually deporting pedos. So, you know, if you're anti ice, doesn't that make you kind of pro pedo? Are you a pedo protector? America needs to know. So don't watch that. Go and watch instead the all American halftime show. But since we are speaking of depraved sex acts and the confluence between that and politics, we have to get into the Epstein files, because Epstein files. Phase two is is finally here. We've spent the weekend digging through these. I know a lot of you guys out in the audience have as well send in your best ones. And by the way of the revelations that you have seen in the phase two release, long awaited. Been one year since phase one, of course. Remember that. Who could forget? And now finally phase two is upon us. So send us your the best ones that you found. 1776Human Events.com 1776Human Events.com wanted to get in Aurin McIntyre here, host of the Aurin McIntyre show as well to kind of ride side saddle as we check out some of this stuff. Oren, how are you doing?
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Auron McIntyre
Well, thanks for having me.
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Jack Posobiec
And I got to ask you not to not to get into before we get into Epstein, what do you think, man? Kid Rock, Brantley Gilbert, what do you think of the lineup?
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Auron McIntyre
I mean, obviously it's going to blow away the official super bowl halftime show. It's been garbage for a long time. It's about time that conservatives stepped up and provided a real celebration of America at the event that is supposed to be one of the most important televised events in the country. So I think it's fantastic that you guys are making this happen.
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Jack Posobiec
Well, thank you, I appreciate that. And I mean, it all started with a crazy tweet and, you know, here we are, we're actually announcing it, we're actually doing it and, you know, nothing but, you know, nothing but thanks and gratitude to the Turning Point team for looking at this and seeing the energy and the response, the massive response that it, you know, that it really engaged and engendered. And it's something that I think absolutely America just wants because we're sick of. And here's what's kind of funny, because, like, it feels like America for so long has been run by this like, sick, depraved cabal of sorts. And then we get the Jeffrey Epstein emails and it's kind of like, oh, we were being ruled by a sick, depraved cabal of sorts. And in fact, here they are laughing about it in their emails to each other. I don't want to go into like super in the weeds, but, you know, and of course we'll do that a little bit. But, you know, in a general sense, does this kind of show you or show the country that, like the way that we think of our government as just sort of being like, well, we the people go vote for politicians and they go do the work and is that really how the sausage is made?
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Auron McIntyre
Obviously not. And I think that for A while now, the American people have realized that it's only a few stalwarts, I think, that are really holding on to the Mr. Smith goes to Washington model of American politics. They know that the country has been run by a cesspool. They just didn't know all the names, they didn't know all the details, they didn't know all the connections. And while there's still a lot going on with the files, there's so much to parse. I'm still waiting, you know, as we turn through what's real, what speculation, what was just someone saying something offhand, and then what can we confirm? There's so much behind all of this, but what it does show is that there is an elite club, that there is an elite class, that they are engaged in, sadly, exactly the kind of behavior that you expected from them. And so when we're looking at politics, when we're trying to understand why we feel like our country is coming apart or that the people who are ruling us ultimately don't care about us, this is just more evidence to back up the, you know, the sneaking suspicion that I think more and more people had in the country that we simply cannot trust our elite ruling class.
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Jack Posobiec
And that really is the, the, the bottom line on it. And I think it's something where even over the past year, that's why to an extent, so many Democrats cynically like AOC kind of glommed on to this. Now, of course, they did it as an anti Trump sort of thing, but the dam just sort of broke on the narrative where they realized, okay, guys, we can't uphold this, this false reality that we, you know, that Jeffrey Epstein wasn't connected to all of these powerful people, so we just have to go with it. But then also claim that it's tied to Trump, even when, and I've been through this phase, too, you know, the first thing I look for, same as phase one, was does it mention Trump? And every single time that it comes up, and then Trump just put up a true social about this where it's just, it's all about talking about, it's all about mentions of them saying, how can we get Trump involved? How can we get dirt on Trump? How can we dirty up Trump or, or do things to him because he wasn't involved in any of this. And so I think it does go to show you, but to your broader point there, that so many Democrats had to just go along with the narrative because they were sick of upholding the lie.
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Auron McIntyre
Well, you can understand why the Administration was initially careful with what was going on here. As you say, many Democrats are combing through this, you know, just kind of searching through and whatever mention of Trump's name, they say, oh, look, there's evidence that Trump did something. And then we actually look at the document and there's no way to verify it. Or like you said, it's them trying to figure out how to involve him in these kind of things. And it never pans out to actually pointing to Trump being involved in directly one of these Epstein scenarios. And so you get that, like, you have to be careful about how you ultimately roll that out. But I do think it's important the information is out now. And that hesitation by the administration at some level allowed the Democrats to kind of lob the ball back into their core to, to try to attach this to Trump in some way saying, oh, what is he hiding? What is he hiding? Well, it turns out nothing. But that doesn't matter because if they can create the appearance of some kind of COVID up, that's what matters. That's what gets people's minds turning. So I think it was wise, you know, you just needed to get this out into the public. And yes, in many ways the left can try to exploit it or mislead people with it, but ultimately, I think the sunshine is absolutely the best disinfectant on this. It's all going to vet out. If Trump is not involved, then the best thing to do is simply get out what is involved there. And, and I think that this is ultimately going to be something that's good that the Trump administration is going to get behind them after all of this.
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Rich Barris
Yeah.
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Jack Posobiec
And look, the thing that we've always said, just to reiterate it, but you know, every time this comes up and you'll see at the left, oh, you're doing this, Are you doing that? Guys, Joe Biden was in power with Merrick Garland in charge of the Department of Justice. If Trump was like in the Epstein files, you wouldn't have need needed Jack Smith, you wouldn't have needed a Russian dossier, you wouldn't needed all of Russiagate. Why would they have gone to such incredible lengths making up crimes that had never been indicted before, that no one had ever been charged with before? Why would they have gone to all of those lengths if they could have just said, oh, here's a picture of Donald Trump in a, in a Jacuzzi with a girl. Oh, wait, sorry, that was actually Bill Clinton. Or, you know, here's of course, if that would have been the Very first thing they all looked for, because you can even see in the interviews that have come out. And by the way, I would even say I was talking to a buddy of mine, who prior intelligence service guy that I was, I was in the IC with, and we talked about how even when you look, by the way, at the FBI officers or the FBI agents that are holding these interviews and when they're talking to people, even, they keep asking about Trump, they don't actually go down the line of asking about anyone on the left. They're the ones who are asking about Trump. And this is in the, you know, 20 teens, 2000 20s. So again, you just see this pervasive bias over, over and over from both Epstein and his friends and even the FBI at times of trying to get Trump. It just ain't there.
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Auron McIntyre
Yeah, that's such an important point, Jack. And that's why I was always relatively sure that there wasn't going to be anything with Trump involved, because as you said, the Democrats pushed basically every radical attempt to try to keep Trump from returning to the presidency that they could find. They threw his supporters in jail, they threw his staff in jail, they manufactured charges, they created conspiracy theories, they strained the credibility of the FBI, the intelligence agencies. They just did everything up to and including shooting the guy to try to stop him. So it's really hard for me to believe that they just had this slam dunk case of him as being some kind of pedophile and they just couldn't get around to bringing it out. Now, some people said, oh, well, it's going to, it's going to indict some of the Democrats. They're worried about it indicting some of the Democrats guys. They were willing to destroy anyone and everyone to beat Trump. You don't think that they were willing to ruin the reputation of Bill Clinton, whose reputation is already ruined, to get Donald Trump? I mean, come on, that's ridiculous. Ultimately, if the case had been there, they would have made it. It obviously wasn't. And that's why ultimately, it was always going to be the case that the best thing to do was to get the Epstein files out there and prove that Trump is ultimately exonerated and that there are other very nefarious actors inside our government that we need to be aware of. The relationships, the attitudes towards the average American, especially Christians, was absolutely gross. We see that reiterated throughout different documents in these leaks. And so the picture that falls into place is definitely one that I think really exposes the entire American elite system, but especially those on the left.
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Jack Posobiec
And it certainly does. And when you look at Epstein's politics, you know, or political, you know, leanings that come across in these things, it really just kind of feels like this is sort of like your average MSNBC viewer kind of guy where he doesn't actually have any level of sophistication that's further than that other than his own access to the elites. But his politics are pretty much just in line with anybody who would watch like Rachel Maddow or any of the Chris Hayes, Joy Reid, any of these other MSNBC shows. And there's certainly, you know, there, there's other things that he gets into, but that's by and large all that. Jack Sobic, one with Oren McIntyre here, Human Events Daily. And we'll be right back.
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Audience Member/Fan
Talk about influencers. These are influencers and they're friends of mine. Jack so big. Where's Jack? He's got a great job.
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Jack Posobiec
Jack Posobic back, Real America's Voice by the way, I have to mention that tonight, huge announcement. We announced, of course, the Turning Point halftime show. But tonight Real America's Voice has another huge, huge announcement that 11pm New show, 11pm Eastern new show after hours with Alex Stein. Yes, that's right. The pimp on the blimp is coming home to Real America's Voice. This very evening will be the first show. I know I'm definitely going to be checking that out. I've done his show in the past. Alex is a friend and I'm really excited that he's going to be joining us here at Real America's Voice. And who knows, who knows what's going to come out on there. Wouldn't surprise me if you might catch a few, catch a few minutes of that show getting into the Epstein files as well. And so we're on with R. McIntyre and R. And you and I were just talking about how this really does kind of show that like the, you know, they call it 4chan weaponized autism. But it's like, well, let's see, 4chan was 100% right about how the world works. They also, by the way, were correct in actually people Forget this. But 4chan was the one was the place the website that broke the news anonymously that Jeffrey Epstein had died, that was actually the place where it came out. Apparently the guard, one of the prison guards is now being named that unfortunately some of his there was investigation into him as to where the leak came from and that came out in these files as well. So I hopefully hopefully he doesn't catch any backlash for that. But there's something that I, that I also wanted to get into. And it's, it's the way. It's this level of disdain that Jeffrey Epstein seems to have for regular people. And he just seems like he felt that he was completely untouchable. When I hear Mike Benz going through his chapter and verse on how the money laundering was done for the CIA was done for intelligence agencies around the world. Israeli intelligence, British intelligence. Getting into Robert Maxwell. We'll talk about that in a little bit with Rich Barris. It gives a lot of credence to that because it just seems like he has this ability to be, you know, to feel like he's. To feel like he's untouchable. And then, and then he's just referring to, to people as like, the goys and the goy. Like, they're like there's some kind of, like, under, you know, an under creature. And it's amazing because I'm like, oh, so are we, are we going to, like, call that out as hate speech? Because when I say Christ is king or I'm holding a rosary on, on a stage in front of, like, young people at a memorial, by the way, at my friend's memorial, I get told that's hate speech. So what's up with the double standard there?
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Auron McIntyre
Yeah, it's. It's sadly not shocking at all because the double standard is constant in our society. We're the one group that you're always allowed to make fun of is Christians, especially white Christian men. And so Jeffrey Epstein throwing around this type of language is swept under the rug or presented as not a big deal when it's obviously really vicious. The way that he's referring to people, as you say, he's constantly using as an exclusionary term, oh, I guess we can, you know, bring some of those around tonight. I guess we can allow them into the party or into the club. And it's just a wider understanding of, you know, just how nefarious our elites were and how untouchable, as you point out, they feel like they are. A lot of people speculated, you know, who did. Who did Jeffrey Epstein work for? Did he work for the CIA? Did he work for the Mossad? Did he work for some other intelligence agency? And the answer is probably yes. You know, this idea that intelligence networks are just have every single person on the books drawing a salary, doing 100% of their job for one. That's just not how this work. You know, intelligence assets are out there all the time. They're usually being recruited by These different agencies, because they're gonna have some level of utility, they often are working in multiple worlds, often in contact with multiple agencies. And so while it's probably unlikely that Jeffrey Epstein was officially drawing a paycheck from the CIA or the Mossad or any of these other intelligence networks directly, it's very clear that he felt his connections with that world made him more or less untouchable. He's servicing some of the highest clientele. He's out there holding secrets, working with some of the richest men in the world, providing them, possibly drugs for diseases that they had contracted and possibly passed to their wives. These are things that puts Epstein, you know, puts people who are incredibly powerful or wealthy in the debt of someone like Epstein. And so does he need to have, like, direct connections to every intelligence agency? Doesn't need to be able to summon the power of Israel or America? No, he just talks about, you know, the average person as if they're worthless if they can't touch him because he feels like he can't be touched. He has all these international connections that he can wield, all this blackmail, all this influence. Why would he think that he's going to be held accountable by the average goyim, as he would call it?
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Jack Posobiec
It's, it's, it's despicable. It's disgusting, but it's also clarifying. And I'm. And I'm happy to have the clarity. I'm happy to have that out there. R. McIntyre, we got to run. We got a jet. Where can people go to follow you, brother?
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Auron McIntyre
Well, thank you so much for having me. I have my show over on Blaze TV. It's the or McIntyre Show. You can also catch me on all your favorite podcast platform, YouTube, Rumble, Odyssey, all that.
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Jack Posobiec
No, he does a great job. I'm always cranking through his stuff at 2x when I'm on planes or I'm working out or something. So great, great content, great interviews over there. Check him out, guys. The Auron McIntyre Show. Thanks, man.
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Auron McIntyre
Thank you.
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Jack Posobiec
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Where's Jack? Where's Jack? Where is he? Jack, I want to see you. Great job, Jack.
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Auron McIntyre
Thank you.
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What a job you do. You know, we have an incredible thing. We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys, and these are the guys who'd be getting policies.
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Jack Posobiec
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Rich Barris
Living the dream, Jack. Thanks for having me on as always, brother.
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Jack Posobiec
Of course. And, man, I'm sure you're right there with me. You and I talked about this so much. If. If. If this drop had been the phase one drop, I mean, I just think we'd be in a very different place right now, wouldn't we?
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Rich Barris
We definitely would have. And again, part of the administration's problem was simply how they handled this, Jack. I mean, it is very simple for. Because we've been hearing people try to defend it, and they basically say, oh, you know, there was no other way to do it. This was the way it had to be done. After all, that's not true. They could have easily have just come out instead of, you know, the promise of part one with the binders and then Pam Bondi doing the charade she pulled on Fox News. They could have easily have just come out and said, look, we will get to the bottom of this. But remember, it's the same FBI who launched a coup against me in my first administration. It's the same FBI who behaved grossly with Hillary Clinton. We going to need Some time to go through it. And people would have given them the time of day for that. They would have. Especially with he still had the political capital that he did. They would have given him a lot of grace. But now here we are. So it's hard to see how any of this ends up being a victory for the administration, except what I think you and I always knew, which is that there was never going to be anything about Donald Trump specifically damning or incriminating. The president is one of the very few people who came out of this entire Epstein debacle with his hands clean. Out of all that, everyone in that social class and that political class, Donald Trump is the only one who ever stood up to Jeffrey Epstein. And it's a shame because of how they went through this process. He will not get the credit for that. But there are a lot of, there are a lot of big nuggets in this drop, Jack, including one of my personal favorite.
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Jack Posobiec
And that's something I want to dig into. Oh, yeah. But yeah, please, please do roll into it because, you know, there's so much in here and it's like drinking from a fire hose. You know, we're, there's, there's an email here. There's Bill Gates, there's, there's stuff with Russia, there's stuff with Reid Hoffman, of course, Elon Musk, he's trying to get him to come down. And Ellen's like, I'm doing rockets. I got, I got way more important things to do to come some stupid island, you know, and over and over it's like, you're right, because it is actually exculpatory to people like Donald Trump, people and like Elon Musk, by the way. And it is very, unfortunately, I think, getting overlooked that there's a lot of people here that are within these power structures that are completely getting overlooked. So want to go to you. What, what was the biggest takeaway that you have so far?
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Rich Barris
The biggest takeaway for me and again, maybe showing my age and remembering old events that were huge events. The biggest eye opener to me, Jack, was that Jeffrey Epstein very clearly believed that Robert Maxwell was killed by Mossad, that he worked for Mossad, that had. He details the arrangement that they had, and then he details the moment when Mossad decided that Robert Maxwell no longer worth the heavy price that they had to pay to keep him as an asset. And that in, in Jeffrey Epstein's mind, again, remember, his role with Robert Maxwell is his relationship with obviously Ghislaine, his daughter. This was a huge story at the time that he was killed or at the time that he was dying, mysteriously fell off the back of his boat. Right? I mean, this is, this is what the story was back then. Nobody really believed it. And he was a huge name. He was a titan of the industry. It was a huge event in his daughter's life. And of course, now we know a huge one in the life of Jeffrey Epstein. And for people who have not read this email, he basically said, and I forgot the verb, the wording he used, but basically that he was suicide. Right, Meaning he wasn't. He was killed and he wanted them to pay. He had a lot of problems with his business relationships and his business empire, it was falling apart. It had a lot of financial struggle, a lot of issues he was going through, and he wanted them to bankroll it in order to continue to deliver what he was delivering for them. And Mossad decided it wasn't worth it and they got rid of him. And that's what it says in the email, Jack. That's what we call a smoking gun. That is crystal clear. And what are we just supposed to believe Jeffrey was wrong? Come on, give me a break. He didn't know. Come. That's just, it's inconceivable to me. He knew what Robert was up to, and that's what he believed happened to him.
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Jack Posobiec
And it's, it's, it's just so crazy because. And then when you go back to Robert Maxwell, this. Mike Benz, of course, has talked about this. He's come on the show, talked about it for years, how this was a guy who was a fixer, right? He was a fixer for British Intelligence. He worked with Israeli intelligence. He was going into Eastern Europe and doing all sorts of stuff in sort of like the, the. During the Cold War and then the end of the Cold War. Post Cold War, these were the type of operations that he was working on. And I love the fact, by the way. And I'd have to pull up the actual town name, but if you go and look up, right, this is my favorite nugget on this. Where was Robert Maxwell born? Well, at the time, it was not this, but if you go and look at the current borders, the town where he was born is currently within the borders of, of Ukraine. He was born in what is now Ukraine. At the time it was in, you know, it was actually part of the original Czechoslovakia that after the fall of the. The Soviet Union got reapportioned to Ukraine. It's just, it's like, why does everything keep turning back to Ukraine? It's just another one of those nuggets that keeps. It's like the black box of the deep state, the black box of the intel community that everything nefarious just seems to run through there.
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Rich Barris
Yeah. So it wouldn't be a shocker also, you know, connecting all of that together a little bit. Very interesting. And he says flat out that because of the information that he had gathered, because of which you can only assume is compromising material on people, he had.
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Auron McIntyre
Access.
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Rich Barris
Revolving door access to Downing street when Margaret Thatcher was the Prime Minister of Britain, when Ronald Reagan was the President of the United States. And he talks about those halls of power, those people that gave him access to the halls of power in Europe and the work that he was doing what is now the former Soviet bloc. So I think, Jack, what this does is the people who are naysayers or were the people who would downplay Robert Maxwell's relationship to Jeffrey and what that meant with the issue surrounding his death and the speculation obviously that we all heard. I think there's a problem for that side who tried to downplay this now, which is that he's confirming that these relationships did in fact exist. He's confirming that, you know, it's like the worst thing to the American voter that the rich, the powerful, the elite behave badly. They end up in bad positions because other bad people, you know, find them compromised in those positions. And then it opens the door to bad actions from those people. You know, that whole.
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Jack Posobiec
And that's so much. The money is changing hands, the power is changing hands, the influence is changing hands. We're on with Rich Barris, the people's Pundit. Right back. Human Events Daily. Jack is a great guy. He's written a fantastic book.
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Audience Member/Fan
Everybody's talking about it.
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Jack Posobiec
Go get it.
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Audience Member/Fan
And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event. And we're going to turn it around and make our.
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Rich Barris
Actually.
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Jack Posobiec
Amen. All right, Jack Sidewick, we are back here. Human Events Daily. We're on with Rich Barrister, People's Pundit. We're blowing through the Epstein files. Phase two. Finally, the long awaited phase two. People keep asking me, Jack, where's phase two? Where's phase two? Here it is. Here is phase two. Do I wish it was out sooner? Of course I wish it was out sooner. But it's out now and we're going through. We talked about how it should have been out sooner. We've given. I've given speeches at Turning Point, how it should have been out sooner. Rich Barris, we're digging through, though. And one of the big pieces too, that I want to get into is this is there are examples here where Jeffrey Epstein is not just having these conversations with people who are like his staff and his close circle. This seems like a pretty well known operation. When he's emailing with the likes of Bill Gates and others that he's read Hoffman, they seem to all know exactly what he's doing, what he's talking about, especially this whole exchange over the STDs. So I'm so sorry. Accidents do happen. Well, we'll try to get you the antibiotics. All of this, I'm like, I'm like, whoa, dude, this is just all over open emails. And by the way, if that's what he put on email, imagine what he only said on the phone or in person.
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Rich Barris
Yeah, yeah, Jack. I mean, this was, again, this is the funny thing where we're all being told by the media, you know, all of a sudden recent, quite recently, right throughout the last year, the first year of Trump's administration, that some of the things that were open secrets are suddenly now conspiracy theories. And if you go through these emails, you can see that it's obvious that some of the, even the things we were just discussing in the last segment, he's talking about as if they are. Everybody knows it. As if everyone is read in except for the American public. And it's just astonishing. Again, we have a media, Jack. We have corporate media, we have independent media. We have all of these people who are supposed to be doing work like this. It doesn't get done. It takes a bipartisan act of Congress to circumvent normal order in order to get this bill passed so we can get our hands on these documents to begin with. I mean, that's important to know, you know, and depending on it doesn't really matter what you have after your last name. Both parties did really not want this out. It was rebels, both parties that joined together and used the petition process.
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Jack Posobiec
But I do want to say, well, well, here's what I'll say about this though, is the people from both parties who put this out, they thought that this was going to be a Donald Trump, you know, dossier. They thought this was going to be a new dirty dossier, Trump, that it would get Trump. And it just, it just didn't materialize at all because AOC was hyping this up. She was the only Democrat that I could find who was hyping this stuff up the other day. And then it comes out and it's like, yeah, These are mostly people associated with your party, aoc. And for the anti Trump people on the, on the Republican side, it's like, guys, it just ain't there.
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Rich Barris
Yeah, the, well, the anti Trump. Right, because they're, they're, you know, we know this. The entire party is certainly not maga. It's not America First. And you know, there's perfectly, what we call perfectly normal corruption in Washington D.C. which both parties, you know, engage in. It's just a fact. And Trump was coming out of this clean. And this is what was always so stunning to me. It seemed like the only thing that was a secret about the Epstein files was that there was, you know, on the right, there was a group of people who knew that Donald Trump was not going to be implicated in any of this and it could have been used to their benefit. But, you know, it is what it is now. You know, they're out and people can go through them and make their own call. But there is no doubt that this is. Epstein has always been a left wing, predominantly left wing problem. The only time I think the right muddied themselves up was under the Bush administration and obviously he served as Labor Secretary and Trump's first administration, Costa, where, you know, he did get that sweetheart deal. And Democrats always had a talking point, you know, where they would say we didn't, he didn't get from us, he didn't get that. But he did get it because of the relationship with your people that he had. But again, I think the biggest part about this and the big story here, Jack, is that it does confirm that there is this network, you know, of influence and there's really bad, there are really bad people in these circles. And that sometimes manifests into public policy. A lot of times it manifests into public policy not because those decisions are the right ones. They're the best thing for the public of that, you know, not just our own nation, but fathers that he's wrapped up in. But because of these relationships. And the people instinctively know that. And that's what this issue has always been about from the beginning, that this was a proxy for that world and what goes on in that world and how. Not only do they get what they want, Jack, they get what they want at the expense of the little guy, right? And this, this life is like they do.
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Jack Posobiec
And he says that, he says this over and over. He says this over and over. And, and again, you know, I said this on Twitter. I said it before. He uses. Produces this anti white slur. The, the goyum, right? This, that's for the goyim. That's for the goyim to, you know, to understand. Oh, no, we just, we just live off of the goyim. This is the type of stuff, this is the type of slurs that people come out and they, they lose their minds over when you say something in the other direction. But then you go behind the scenes and it's like, oh, that's exactly how they talk. Like, it comes across like caricature. I'm just saying it comes across like a caricature. They're laughing about you, they're using ethnic slurs about you over and over. And it's like for the people who were, you know, if you go back to 2016, 2017, people like, and I'll say Alex Jones and others were derided as crazy conspiracy theorists for saying that this was how the world worked. Now we see the emails and it's, it is like looking at the dashboard of world power. Power.
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Rich Barris
Yeah, Alex was right. It's a huge vindication of Alex. Now, some of the things that we do discuss, they're not as if it's mainstream and of course the world works this way. But all those years ago, like you said that that's not, that's not the case. I mean, for those of us who were there, if you did bring something like this up, even though, again, and this is the most extraordinary thing about all of this, even though it's very clear from the emails, everyone and their mother were read in on this and knew about this. But if you were going back to that time period and that that's the rise of Trump, the people thought that. But the media and the institutions of power, they derided you as a conspiracy theorist, as a nutcase. Right. If you were to talk about it like this. Well, any other way than this ridiculous worldview that the rich and powerful do things because they're wiser and they make decisions based on that wisdom and they make decisions that maybe as the little people can't understand, but it's really in your best interest. And now we find out that's not true at all. Which again is what I think most people understood. And it's. It that, that's, that's a farce. You know, the world is unfortunately influenced and is operated by people that do have bad intentions, Jack. And that is the, the entire narrative of the Epstein story.
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Jack Posobiec
Story.
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Rich Barris
And they'll get away with it if they have enough.
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Jack Posobiec
No, and it's. And right. And that's, it is tragic. And unfortunately that's the thing and so, you know, looking here, politically speaking, going forward, obviously, you know, you got to put a big red Asterix or a big red line through anyone who was on that island, anyone who's associated with this. But also moving forward, we have to start understanding that this level of blackmail, these types of operations, they do do exist. They are part of our world. They're not. This isn't just some. Like, it's not just Hollywood, right? And so, and I'm going to say it, you know, for. It's like, hey, guys, hey. You know, to Amazon, to, you know, all you guys with your, like. Jack Carr, if you're listening, this is how the world works. Not how you think the world works. It's not. The CIA is the good guy and, like, doing everything behind the scenes to help the country. This is what the CIA, CIA is doing. Maybe you could actually open up the files and figure it out. Rich Barris. Where can people go to follow you, brother?
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Rich Barris
Yep, we're everywhere. As always, Jack, thanks for having us. The best places on locals. Peoplespundent.locals.com peoplespundant.locals.com all the best, my friend.
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Jack Posobiec
Now, Rich has a great community over there on Locals. He's got a great setup. People need to check that out. I recently, I got on. I was doing the Scott Adams stuff, so I'm on there on Locals. I'm paying Locals guy now. And it's really cool because you get social media without them. Not, you know, not affiliated with the company, but, you know, you get a great community and there's no trolls. It's just like straight up, actual engagement and conversation. Folks, this is the way the world works. Hollywood lied to you. Understand the truth. Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay ashore.