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Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec
The Latest on Epstein, The OKC Bombing Revisited and The Passing of Hulk Hogan
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Jack Posobic
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Unknown Host
This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobic.
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Jack Posobic
Christ is.
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Margaret Roberts
So we're taking a look and it looks like it's about 3.1 billion. It went up a little bit or a lot. So the 2.7 is now 3.1 and.
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Congressman Keith Self
I'm not aware of that.
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Margaret Roberts
Yeah, it just came out.
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Jack Posobic
Yeah, I haven't heard that from anybody at the Fed. Our notes had it about 3.1 as well.
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Margaret Roberts
3.1, 3.2.
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Jack Posobic
This came from us?
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Margaret Roberts
Yes. I don't know who does that.
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Jack Posobic
You're including the Martin renovation.
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Congressman Keith Self
You just added.
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Jack Posobic
You just, you just added in a third building is what that is. That's the third building.
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Margaret Roberts
It's a building that's being built.
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Unknown Host
Tensions rising between Thailand and Cambodia, with deadly clashes breaking out along the country's disputed border. A warning, some of you may find these images we are about to show you disturbing. Fighting erupted early in the morning near an ancient temple. Both sides have accused the other of firing first. Hours later, Thailand's military said it deployed fighter jets to target Cambodian military targets.
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Jack Posobic
A legal blow for President Trump as a federal appeals court found that his.
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Dr. Matthew Bunsen
Efforts to end birthright citizenship are unconstitutional.
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Jack Posobic
The three judge panel ruled 2 to.
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Dr. Matthew Bunsen
1 that Trump's executive order banning birthright.
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Jack Posobic
Citizenship violates the Constitution's fourth fourteenth amendment. It grants citizenship to all people born or naturalized in the US The President is looking to use the ban to.
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Dr. Matthew Bunsen
Deny automatic citizenship to the U. S. Born children of undocumented immigrants.
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Margaret Roberts
Many of our largest tech companies have reaped the blessings of America freedom while building their factories in China, hiring workers in India and stashing profits in Ireland. You know that. All the while dismissing and even censoring their fellow citizens right here at home. Under President Trump, those days are over. We need US Technology companies to be all in for America. We want you to put America first. You have to do that. That's all we ask. Todd Blanche is a great gentleman. He's a great man. We've been a great lawyer, and he's got a great heart. But he's over there now. I don't know exactly what's happening, but I certainly can't talk about pardons.
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Jack Posobic
Can you trust.
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Kevin Posobic
Can you trust what she's telling him?
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Jack Posobic
She's a convicted trafficker who's eager to get out of prison.
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Margaret Roberts
Well, you know, he's a professional lawyer. I think he. He's been through things like this before. But, you know, you should focus on Clinton. You should focus on the president of Harvard, the former president of Harvard. You should focus on some of the hedge fund guys. I'll give you a list. These guys lived with Jeffrey Epstein. I sure as hel did. Thank you very much.
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Jack Posobic
All right, Jack. So here we are Live Human events daily. Washington, D.C. today is July 25, 2025, Anno Domini, folks. President Trump there on the lawn of the White House, and he's giving this speech and answering these questions regarding Jeffrey Epstein. The list, the Epstein list itself. President Trump saying that he could give the list. I certainly hope that he does. I absolutely agree with President Trump on this. He says, let's talk about the island. I also couldn't agree more. We want to talk about that island. We want more on this island. We want more on the specifics of where the island, what was going on on the island, who was there on the island. We need an absolute meticulous piece of information and investigation going through. Is Todd Blanche going down? And President Trump asked the same question that I was talking about with General Flynn yesterday. How do you corroborate something that a prisoner tells you? Well, maybe you want to talk to someone who served at Guantanamo Bay and worked in interrogations down there. Hi. So the way that works is what you do is you. It's called corroboration. You have to have the corroborating documents and what she's holding there. They in prison, in federal prison, they call this your lawyer box, your evidence box that is taken with you with your lawyer. It's information regarding your case. Each prisoner is allowed to have that. They then bring it to when they meet with their lawyer. In this case, they're meeting with their lawyer and an official from the government. So obviously the federal government, the deputy attorney general. The meeting that took place yesterday, the meeting took place today. But going back to what was said, how can you trust what she says? You shouldn't. You shouldn't trust anything that anyone just says without, without following up and conducting further corroboration. It's so simple as that. That's what we did at Guantanamo Bay. That's a huge part of whatever work was down there. You can't just take something that someone says and turn it into and say, oh, there it is. No, what you would do is you would then go and you would corroborate. You would say, all right, well, this person says they were over here on this time. Can you track their cell phone? Do they have any corroborating evidence? Can you see if it was there? You used the power of the federal government. You use the investigatory powers that are, that are to you, and you go through with that. Maybe she says something that corroborates something that one of the victims says. You go and check that out there. Can you get further witnesses? Can you get other people that provide corroborating testimony? Again, these are time honored traditions in our legal system. And just having a little bit of the background that I did at Guantanamo Bay, I could tell you that's what we did every single day of the week. And of course, you know, at my level, we weren't the ones that saying, yes, sir, this is 100% true. But we would put together our investigation that got briefed up, that would get briefed up the chain. That's exactly how it works here. I even had the opportunity to brief White House officials when I was at Guantanamo Bay regarding some of the investigative packages that I put together, as well as members of the United States Senate, one of which, of course, being John McCain, have told the story many times. So what we're seeing here, what we're seeing here is a situation where you have someone who has a motive, but you also have the leverage that President Trump has. Talking about that, I know MSNBC was saying, oh, Jack, wisobiec's calling for a pardon. Never called for pardon. What I said was, you have to understand her motivations and you have to understand what she wants, what potential leverage or information she has, and the leverage, motivations and interests, not just to the presidency and the White House, but the American people, okay? Pedophiles and pedophile enablers belong behind bars, and there's no question about that. Dr. Sobey, quick break. Right back.
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Margaret Roberts
In our wave and our golden age has just begun.
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Unknown Host
This is Human Events with Jack Posovic.
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Jack Posobic
Now we now it's time for everyone to understand what America first truly means. Welcome to the second American Revolution. All right, Jack, here we are back live Human events daily Washington, D.C. folks, I got a question and actually have some information too. Did you know that in the last six weeks, 86 million AT&T users had their name, address and Social Security security numbers leak? Or that the CCP is harvesting massive volumes of Americans personal data to train Deep Seek and other AI systems? When you're online doing work like I am, you need that digital camouflage. And that's why I've partnered with our newest show sponsor, Patriot Protect. Patriot Protect removes your personal data from the Internet. And whether it's Google, Amazon or Apple, your personal data will be wiped so that scammers and cyber criminals and swatters like the ones that came after the Poso family will not and cannot find your data and you can take back your security and your privacy. Once Patriot Protect scans and scrubs your personal information, they'll continuously monitor your info to make sure every new instance of a possible data breach is eliminated immediately. I'm talking 247 protection for the cost of keeping the porch lights on. The only thing worse than getting hacked is knowing you could have stopped it and didn't take action when you could have. So go to patriot-protect.com poso and use promo code POSO for 15% off a yearly subscription. That's patriot-protect.com posoand use promo code POSO for 15 percent off a yearly subscription. Patriot-protect.com poso Very excited for our next guest because as we've been and we talk about history a lot here and we talk about the situation, we talk about the deep state, we talk about the FBI and so many things. One of the stories that we talk about, every once in a while it comes up, but we never really have chance or take the time to step back and say, you know what, what's a good deep dive on this story? And that is that, that is that story of the FBI and the Oklahoma City bombing. Well, I'm excited to announce that we've got an author joining us now who's written an entire book about it. This is going to be your if you're a fan of this show, I know you like serious investigative reports. This is your next summer read. It's called the Untold Story of the FBI and the Oklahoma City Bombing. We have the author, Margaret Roberts, joining us now. Margaret, how are you?
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Unknown Host
Great to be with you, Jack.
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Dr. Matthew Bunsen
Thank you.
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Jack Posobic
So tell, tell me what, what drove you to write this book and why put it out now?
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Unknown Host
Well, it was a calling originally from a victim, a survivor of the bombing. But I had been the news Director of America's Most Wanted until about three years before the bombing. So I lived and breathed manhunt stories, Jack. And while I had moved on to Los Angeles on April 19, 1995, when that bomb went off, I was in Los Angeles. And like millions of other Americans, I witnessed very quickly on live television the apocalypse, the destruction, the injury, the horror of that moment. And it. So I had two perspectives. One, just like everyone else, just horrified and wondering who could have done this. But the other was I had lived and breathed manhunts for three years at America's Most Wanted, working hand in glove with the FBI, closer than a journalist would ever probably get. So I looked at the early reporting on the bombing as a manhunt story and felt even a little bit like, oh, I wish I could be back in the newsroom and tap my best sources and find out what was going on here. Because as you remember or, or know, some of us remember, others learned.
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Jack Posobic
I remember. I remember. I remember, by the way, was a huge fan, even, even as, as a youngster, huge fan of America's Most Wanted. Definitely something that I would say led me on the path to becoming an intelligence officer in my own life, because I've just always been interested in these things.
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Unknown Host
Oh, that's so great to know. Not too many television shows last for 20 years. And so you can imagine, in my path going forward, I have met so many people who were touched by that program and John Walsh and his work, it abides to this day. It was a manhunt story, and that in particularly to your interest in intelligence, Jack, it was incredible that it was a manhunt story that quickly melted. But if you go back to April 19, the eyewitnesses, 24 of them, just ordinary people in Oklahoma City who saw the bombing run or moments of it. They saw two men in the Rider truck, Timothy McVeigh and his never identified accomplice, known only as John Doe 2. 24 eyewitnesses, and they described him as stocky, muscular, well built. That is the big clue to one of the biggest, greatest American, you know, crime mysteries. Who was John Doe, too. And that leaves, I don't get to answer your question, how I got into it. Mostly that sat in my head. I was producing other television shows. But 10 years later, I did get a call from a survivor who knew I was prowling around like you. It was a story. It keeps coming up because anybody who looked at the story knew there were so many loose ends. I mean, just to mention a couple more that told the tale that we were not receiving the truth about that story. Quickly in Top journalists were reporting that the FBI had collected surveillance videotape of the bombing run of mcveigh and John doe to getting out of the truck and even the building exploding. And when you consider that this is the biggest. It remains to this day the deadliest domestic terror attack on american soil. It's amazing that the american public was never allowed to see those videotapes. And lastly, as evidence that the story was not being told, A grand juror inside the McVeigh grand jury was so disturbed by what was going on that he went rogue and began leaking to the daily oklahoman. After the indictments came down, he wrote a long letter to the judge and said the federal prosecutors running that grand jury Were rigging the jury and in particular, hiding the identity of John Doe, too. So that was all that all stayed with me. And 10 years later, when I learned Doing a little prowl around research the way we do on anniversaries, this. This year is the 30th, but that was the 10th, I was stunned to discover that the FBI, after all the prosecutions were over, after there was no reason to keep secrets. The FBI had still never allowed the American public to see that videotape. And that told me there's a story here. So. So when I got the call from a survivor, A grandmother who had lost two babies in that blast, she just. She didn't even really identify herself. She just said, we need your help out here. And, you know, the way you're sometimes told to a story.
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Jack Posobic
Just in the few minutes I got.
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Unknown Host
On a plane, went to oklahoma city.
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Jack Posobic
Are you able to tell us? Just in a few minutes. And this is definitely a teaser. So for the book. I want people to get it. I get it.
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Dr. Matthew Bunsen
It's.
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Jack Posobic
The book is called blowback, and it's really the untold story of the Oklahoma city bombing and the FBI. What tidbits are you able to leave us with before you have to run?
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Unknown Host
You bet. I'm the only journalist to connect back to what you were talking about. Gillen Maxwell. I interviewed Terry Nichols in supermax prison in colorado. And Terry Nichols, his claim was that Timothy mcveigh had let slip that he operated in the bomb plot not as a terrorist, but as an undercover government operative. Obviously something that needs to be corroborated, as you were pointing out before. But there is some. Some outside corroboration. Mcveigh told his original attorneys, the public defenders, who quickly exited the case, the same story, and he wrote a letter to his sister telling the same story. The other major cutting edge of my investigation is that an FBI whistleblower came out of the Shadows in 2011 to tell my main source in this book that he had been an FBI top spy for eight years in the 1990s and that he knew for a fact that the FBI had set up this neo Nazi terror group which is at the center of my book and they were associated with Timothy McVeigh as well, that the FBI had actually set up that group as a front group to incite right violence.
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Jack Posobic
Margaret. Margaret, you sold me. I'm downloading the book right now. I'm getting it. I've got to read this thing cover to cover. I wish we had more time. I'm instructed my producers. We are going to get you on for a full episode. Just clear the schedule for this one. This is huge. The her name is Margaret Roberts. The book is Blowback the Untold Story of the FBI in the Oklahoma City Bombing. This thing is white hot and it goes straight to the heart of the FBI. Be right back. Human Events Daily. Real Marcus voice.
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Margaret Roberts
You talk about influencers. These are influencers and they're friends of mine.
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Jack Posobic
Jack.
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Margaret Roberts
Where's Jack? He's got a great job.
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Jack Posobic
All right, Jack. Here we are back live. Human events daily, Washington, D.C. folks, did you know that this year gold hit an all time high at 3:30 $500 and silver is trading near $40 an ounce. And with the uncertainty of war, inflation and interest rates and all the tariff news, the sky is literally the limit when it comes to precious metals. People always ask me how do I get involved? And the answer is simple. With Allegiance Gold, whether you're a collector looking for the best pricing in precious metals space or you're looking to protect your future, it doesn't matter if it's $5,000 or $5,000,000, now is the time to act. Just go to protectwithposo.com to get started. Allegiance Gold has the top ratings in the industry and I've been partnered with them for years. When you go to protectwithposter.com or call 844-577 poso you can move part of your 401k IRA or savings into real physical gold and silver. And you may qualify for up to $5,000 in free silver. With the way the market is looking, that free silver could be worth a lot more by the time it arrives securely at your doorstep. Call 844-577-7737, or visit protectwithpost.com that's 844-577-776, 76 or protect with poso.com it's smart, secure and simple. Call 844-577-7676. All right, very excited to have Congressman Keith Self joins us here on Human Events Daily. He's via phone out of the third district of Texas. Congressman, how are you doing?
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Congressman Keith Self
Great. Thanks for having me.
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Jack Posobic
We're excited to have you on this Friday. And you're, you're joining us for this couple of minutes here. You've got a new slate of bills that you're putting together. Walk us through some of the, some of these really big name projects.
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Congressman Keith Self
We are and frankly, I am joining the effort. The speaker just said that we have voted on like 50 of President Trump's executive orders. So this is something that the president that the Congress needs to do because President Trump will not be president forever and we don't know who's going to be the next president. So we need to codify into law his executive orders so that they are much harder to overturn, so that you can overturn them with a stroke of a pen. So I've got four that I have introduced. One is basically school discipline, one is the safety of our biological weapon research, one is the public service loan forgiveness program and one is American history. So we've got a good slate of bills that I'm looking forward to advocating for on the floor of the House.
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Jack Posobic
When it comes to the restoring truth in American history. I think that's very interesting because that lines up with what President Trump signed yesterday as executive order regarding artificial intelligence. And saying, Congressman, that, that he doesn't want any AI use in the government where the AI is teaching a non factual or counterfactual approach to US History instruction. And with this as and as your bill says, with a focus on foundational principles, civic virtue and the unifying aspects of the American experience. Congressman, why is this so important that we codify this into law?
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Congressman Keith Self
Well, not only is it an executive order, but we don't teach civics in school anymore. So our students are getting very little truth about American history. So that's why we need to do this. We need to get the dei, the wokeism out of the schools. We need to restore to the local level, the state and local level the management of our schools so they can determine what the students are going to learn. We did so much damage during the COVID years. We're still behind. So we need to restore this to the schools and make sure that they're teaching factual history. The AIEO that he just signed only solidifies that thought.
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Jack Posobic
And it's so key because what's happening, and particularly when we live in the country now, you have people coming in and as they're growing up, they're taught all these ills of America. They're taught that. And even when you go to national historical landmarks around the country, you have these placards that tell you about all these terrible things. They make you make it out like America is this awful country and, you know, I'm waiting for them to go to the Alamo and take the side of the Mexicans.
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Congressman Keith Self
Well, absolutely. There are three things that the left, the progressive left has to tear down in order for the United States federal government to be autonomous and sovereign. They have to tear down our history is first. They have to tear down our faith and they have to tear down the very building block of society, our families. So history is one of the big three that they have got to destroy in order to make the government absolutely sovereign.
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Jack Posobic
This is so key because what you're talking about, to make the government sovereign, it only works if you have a population that has already removed God from the sovereign court core of their identity. And this is exactly what we saw with the revolution. You could call them the cultural revolutionaries in the 1960s. What was the very first thing they targeted was God in the public square.
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Congressman Keith Self
Yeah, there's a great movement, has been for 30, 40 years, to take God out of the public square that you can, you're free to worship inside the walls of your church or your synagogue. Just don't bring it into the public world. Look, that is wrong. That is a misreading of the separation of church and state. Government stays out of your matters of conscience. Government stays out of your expression of your faith, your religious beliefs.
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Jack Posobic
It couldn't be more simple. While we've got you for just another minute, we talked about this public loan forgiveness, the public service loan forgiveness. Can you walk us through how that would work?
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Congressman Keith Self
Well, yeah, I will tell you. We want public loan forgiveness to be for people who are actually working in the public sector. Under President Biden, we went from 7,000 to a million people that might have been eligible for this program. And some of them were supporting terrorism, supporting violence. They were not supporting the public sector in what we normally think of. So these are NGOs, non government organizations that got these grants and then forgiveness, and they were supporting anti American ideas and actions. That is not right. This bill will try to codify the EO that says public sector loan forgiveness is meant for exactly that. People that are working on behalf of the interest of the United States in the public sector.
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Jack Posobic
And it's really as simple as that. Congressman, thank you so much for joining us. Know you have to run. We're just about out of time in the segment. God bless you and hope you're having a great summer.
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Congressman Keith Self
Thank you so much.
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Jack Posobic
All right, God bless, folks. That's Congressman Keith Self joining us in via phoner. It's very important, codifying President Trump's executive orders into legislation because we know President Trump, he's only in this one more term. Steve Bannon's got some other ideas about that. We'll see. But in order to stick the landing and make sure all of the things that we're putting up with on the board, the W's are up, they need to be codified into law. Right back. Human Events Daily continues on Real America's Voice Act.
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Margaret Roberts
Where's Jack? Where is he? Jack, I want to see you. Great job, Jack.
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Jack Posobic
Thank you.
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Margaret Roberts
What a job you do. You know, we have an incredible thing. We're always talking about the fake news.
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Jack Posobic
And the bad, but we have got.
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Margaret Roberts
Guys, and these are the guys should be getting policies.
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Jack Posobic
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Dr. Matthew Bunsen
Oh, great to be with you.
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Jack Posobic
Now, of course I, I wish I had a chance to see you while we were in Rome together for the Conclave, but I, I don't think I could see anyone. There were many people packed into St. Peter's Square.
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Dr. Matthew Bunsen
Well, especially that day. My wife was able to get, she was in a coffee shop when the habane was popping, when the white smoke came up. And it is something of a great time honored custom in Rome for all the Romans to make their way as quickly as possible to St. Peter's Square for the white smoke and then the unveiling of the new Pontiff. This one I think was especially interesting because of the global interest. At any given time There are about 4,000 accredited journalists in Rome for this. So you can imagine the intensity. It was a genuine privilege to be there. But I'm sorry we didn't have a chance to meet up.
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Jack Posobic
No. As well. And I've kept my credential as well as the rest of the team. I said, guys, keep in, keep, keep, keep a hold of this one. You might have to be handing it to St. Peter one day.
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Dr. Matthew Bunsen
I took it to have.
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Jack Posobic
So tell us.
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Dr. Matthew Bunsen
Yeah, it's funny because.
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Jack Posobic
Exactly.
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Dr. Matthew Bunsen
I have credentials from various events over the years, but this one's very special.
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Jack Posobic
It's very, it only comes up so.
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Dr. Matthew Bunsen
Especially with a front row seat.
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Jack Posobic
Precisely. So tell us about the book. What, what should we know? What should we be concerned with? What should we be interested to find about the first American Pope?
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Dr. Matthew Bunsen
Yeah, well, it starts with the remarkable, unprecedented event that we have. The first US born Pope. We call him the first American Pope in part because he is, as the name Pontifex, one of the traditional titles given to the Pope. He's a bridge Builder, and he's a remarkable builder of bridges between North American, South American, born just outside of Chicago, grew up in what would be a seemingly very ordinary family environment, and yet the Catholic faith of that family created the first American Pope, then served for many, many years in South America in Peru, was a bishop, there was a missionary. So he really is that person who understands both worlds, and he's bringing all of that perspective to Rome. The other key thing to understand about him is that he is a member of what's called the Augustinian Order. That's an order named after and sort of inspired by St. Augustine of Hippo, one of the greatest theologians and philosophers in the history of the Church. So he brings that missionary zeal, but also that love of reason. And you're seeing that already in many of the things that he said. And what we can anticipate, I think, will be some of his writings coming in the future.
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Jack Posobic
Well, and you mentioned the bridge building, and this is something that we heard going in. And I said, I remember CNN played my comments and all this. And I said, look, he's not one of these hardcore conservative types, but at the same time, he is someone who I think understands where this new wave of energy into the Church is coming from, understands where young people. And you see, of course on Twitter, on X, he's, he's clearly interacting with this where. Because when I go, for example, the traditional Latin Mass, you see kids, when I mean that kids, you see teenagers, you see young couples, they're getting married young, they're getting married in their 20s, their early 20s. And this is a totally different shift that, that I've seen just even in my brief lifetime as a Catholic.
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Dr. Matthew Bunsen
Yeah, you're absolutely right. I mean, the centers of gravity, in some ways where the Church is growing fastest is in the youngest parts of the world, in Africa, in parts of Latin America. So he brings that experience as a very seasoned missionary. He's also something of a real thinker. We have seen from almost the first day of his election, his focus on these new technologies. He took the name Leo XIV in honor of a Pope who was grappling with the effects of the Industrial Revolution at the end of the 19th century. And that's Pope Leo XIII. And he ushered in the Church's real concern, the Catholic Church's focus on the impacts of the Industrial Revolution and new technologies. And that's exactly what Leo XIV is doing. He's especially focused on artificial intelligence and the impact of AI, not just on culture and economics, but on the individual human person, which rests at the heart, I think, of one of his big concerns is what is the impact of AI on families, on the individual, on the dignity of the human person. So I think that's something that really connects him very directly with the younger generations, the Gen Zs, who have now essentially spent a good part of their lives recognizing the importance of social media, that that digital world, but also now the impact of things like artificial intelligence and software that's in development and new technologies that are in development.
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Jack Posobic
Well, I think it's exactly right. And every single day we're seeing headlines about more and more Gen Zers. Even by the way, in Washington D.C. where I'm based out of, I just saw a headline the other day that said Washington D.C. particularly among men, is one of the top cities for Gen Z to have form romantic relationships with AI chatbots and to feel that emotional fulfillment there. And Washington D.C. is a huge hub of this. And you look at that and you say, oh my gosh, we're going so far. What is the response? And I would argue, and certainly I think Pope Leo here is focusing on this, that the response to that is the 2000 years of history and tradition of the Church and being connected directly with our creator.
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Dr. Matthew Bunsen
Yeah, I'm based in D.C. also, so I see it very up close myself. Oh, so you know, within families. This is a very transient society here in D.C. but it's goes beyond even D.C. and I think one of the things that Pope Leo has even commented on is the social fragmentation of the divisions that exist and the loss of family life, the loss of close personal relationships. And so much of it has to start of course, with our relationship with God. As Catholics, we embrace that relationship with Jesus Christ, but we're also seeing how that plays out, that lack of relationships and that fear of commitment that we can see that that's really generational. We can see that in Gen X, we can see that in Millennials. We can see that with Gen Z's. But it's especially potent now with young people like Gen Z's who have lived with this digital reality for so long and in many ways prefer that in their lives, in part because they've never had a real image of a nuclear family. So I think this is one of the aspects that we're seeing and I think we'll hear from Pope Leo over the next few days because there's a big jubilee event in Rome for and I look forward to seeing what he has to say directly to young people because that's a real opportunity for him to Speak not just to this 500, 600,000 young people who are going to be gathering in Rome over the next few days, but that global audience that is very interested in what he has to say.
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Jack Posobic
I think it's exactly right. We've only got about a minute left in the segment, so I've got to ask. And by the way, I'll throw it out again, folks. The book is Leo xiv, Portrait of the First American Pope. If you're, if you're Catholic, you want to learn more about the Pope. If you're not Catholic and you still want to learn more about the Pope, this is a great primer for you. It's certainly one of the first books that I've seen on the subject. But, Dr. Bunsen, I have to ask you, when are we getting a papal visit to the, to the country of his birth?
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Dr. Matthew Bunsen
Well, right after his election, he was asked by a reporter at a meeting with media about when he might come to the U.S. he said, not soon. Now, obviously, next year we're looking at the 250th anniversary, I think, for the U.S. the birth of the nation. That's a perfect opportunity. So possibly next year, I can guarantee that it will happen. But when it does, if you're living in Chicago, there's going to be quite the frenzy. But I think also here in Washington, D.C. in places like New York, I think this is going to be on his agenda. We anticipate probably in the fall, he'll go to Turkey for the big anniversary of the Council of Nicaea, which is a big event in Christian history. He may go to Peru. But I agree, I think that a trip here to the United States coming.
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Jack Posobic
Come to D.C. we'll bring our Catholic convert vice president over to the National Basilica. It'll be much better than that, that thing that we went to at the, the other church.
- [38:25]
Congressman Keith Self
Jack is a great guy.
- [38:26]
Margaret Roberts
He's written a fantastic book. Everybody's talking about it. Go get it. And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.
- [38:34]
Kevin Posobic
And we're going to turn it around.
- [38:36]
Margaret Roberts
And make our country great.
- [38:38]
Jack Posobic
Amen. All right, folks, Jack Posobic, we're back live. And look, you know, something happened. We shot that interview with General Flynn yesterday, and I didn't get a chance to address this on air. But we lost, we lost an American icon yesterday, and his name is Hulk Hogan. And I'm just going to say it right now, Hulkamania will never die as long as the Hulkamaniacs keep it alive forever. Hulkamania forever. And last year had the opportunity, and just one of the top 10 moments of my entire life, to be there with my family at Hulk Hogan's final gift to America, the birth of trumpamania. And we've got a huge obituary up for him on humanevents.com that I want everyone to go read. It was written by the raw egg nationalist. Hulk Hogan's last great gift to the American people was to turn Hulkamania into trumpamania. Last year at the rnc, Hogan was a patriot. You want to ask what an American is? That's an American. That's a real American. We got Kevin Posobic here riding side saddle. Because, Kevin, you were right there with me when he walked out.
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Kevin Posobic
I sure was, Jack. And we were also there at Madison Square Garden when he gave his final send off for there too, as well. And listen, people talk about, you know, your last guest having like a Catholic spiritual father or patron saint, this and that. Like, Hogan was my American father. He was my American spiritual father brother. He was my hero.
- [40:27]
Jack Posobic
Train, pray.
- [40:28]
Kevin Posobic
Growing up way back when, we used to wrestle and wrestle in the hay barn and I was kicked out.
- [40:34]
Jack Posobic
Kevin could never, Kevin could never get me down for the 1, 2, 3. Never ever.
- [40:39]
Kevin Posobic
That's right. And we were, we were jumping.
- [40:42]
Jack Posobic
I do remember the one time when.
- [40:44]
Kevin Posobic
I, that we're talking.
- [40:45]
Jack Posobic
I just remember the one time where I, I, I put you in the Razor's Edge off of the top of the hay bales. And then you went down so far that, that we couldn't find you because we were calling you and you weren't answering for like a minute. That was that if, mom, if you're watching, that didn't happen. That we made that up. That was, that was in Minecraft, only.
- [41:06]
Kevin Posobic
Only in the pool. And I couldn't come back. All I had was, yeah, I was like, how could you? I had the leg drop. But man, couldn't beat the Razor's Edge.
- [41:15]
Jack Posobic
No, no. But, well, anyway, we've got that video of. It was one year ago. Guys, let's play that video from, from us at the RNC when, when, when the immortal Hulk Hogan came out. This, this was. I, I can't even begin to describe the physical energy that you could feel when you were in that room when he walked out. No, I've never seen any of the videos. And there's, there's Jack. Jack.
- [42:00]
Kevin Posobic
Yep, there's me.
- [42:01]
Jack Posobic
Next, there's you.
- [42:04]
Kevin Posobic
You won't say it, but man, I sure got choked up. Like, I never thought it would Happen. And I remember telling you, like, during the campaign, like, man, like, we gotta get Hogan. Like, because I've been living down here near Clearwater for about three years, and I seen his make wrestling great again shirts, like, in his shop. And I was like, jack, you gotta get a hold of him. Like, we need, like, the extra, extra power. And I don't know, like, maybe you did.
- [42:29]
Jack Posobic
All I can say is there was a. There was a concerted effort behind the scenes to make this happen. But the end of the day, it was all Hogan. It was all the Hulkster. He came in and that's true.
- [42:44]
Kevin Posobic
Five days after Butler. Five days.
- [42:47]
Jack Posobic
It was. It was just after Butler. And, you know, and he said yes. And we heard he was coming in and we're all like, this is confirmed. It's confirmed. And, you know, you and I, the last time you were on the show, we actually, we mentioned it as kind of a. Just kind of a brief aside. A couple of days ago when we were at sass, we mentioned that he was having health issues. And we kind of heard some stuff about that from around the way. And I thought he was gonna kick out, and it didn't work out that way. But he came back. He came back to put the flag up one last time to save America. Joining with President Trump, and in so many ways, trumpamania, the MAGA movement, it really is the spiritual successor to Hulkamania, because it was about the little people. It was about going to. It was about going to all those little towns all over the country that, you know, they get the carnival, they get the Harlem Globetrotters, and they got the World Wrestling Federation, and they got Hulk Hogan coming in with the Hogan leg drop. That's who the Hulkamaniacs were. That's who the people were that support him. And guess what? That's the exact same people that Donald Trump fights for. J.D. vance is one of those. Those people, right? It's about all those forgotten Americans. That's who Hulk always stood for. And it was simple as that. And America was. I'm just gonna say it was a better place when you could turn on TV and see real heroes that were larger than life, be up on stage and up on top in front of a TV screen saying, train, pray, eat your vitamins. Body slamming giants, holding up the American flag, choking out the iron chic, you know, the U.S. there you go. That's right. There you go. There you go.
- [44:38]
Kevin Posobic
And listen, bro, it's something that he always kept promoting. He always kept promoting his business. He would always cut Promos. His son got involved. His son's a DJ now. He runs karaoke at Hogan's Hangout. And I want to give a shout out. Young Republicans, we're having a good old American meet up there later today. If you're in Clearwater, we're gonna have a impromptu memorial forum. Everybody's going to come out with their. Wait, that's today important love. Yes. Yes, sir. Today.
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Jack Posobic
So that's today at Hogan's Hangout. Say. Say that again for everyone who's in Clearwater. Tampa Bay, if you're in driving distance, if you're in flying distance, tell people. Obviously, everyone knows it's Hogan's Hangout. When does it start?
- [45:20]
Kevin Posobic
Starts at 4:00pm Eastern Standard Time. And it's. It's being put on by Pinellas County Young Republicans and also Tampa Bay Young Republicans. So it'll be a good group of us out there. There were some people already yesterday laying roses and. Yeah, it's going to be a great time. Starts at 4pm till late. Hey, there might even be some karaoke. We'll see. We'll see who grabs the mic.
- [45:43]
Jack Posobic
Yeah, please go down, get us footage of that. Get us if the memorials, the people interviews. We were just there. We were just there last week. We went there last week, brought the kids.
- [45:53]
Kevin Posobic
We were literally on.
- [45:54]
Jack Posobic
Because.
- [45:55]
Kevin Posobic
On the beach of the Gulf of America. Yep.
- [45:57]
Jack Posobic
Well, at the Gulf. Right. But we went. We went to the store, we went to the beach shop, we went to the. The Had. We had lunch. We had lunch at the restaurant. And even. Even my kids, Jack. Jack and aj. Seven years old, four years old. The. The next generation of the Poso bros. They. They love Hulk Hogan because it speaks to something that's bigger than all of us, that's super powerful, that's metaphysical, that loves America. And they got to be there to see him. And I'm just. I'm just so happy that. That they got. There's the first time we saw him, too. But that. That's. That they got to see him. And I said. I said to. Actually, Kevin, I have to tell you, I. I told Jack. Jack yesterday. I haven't. I haven't. AJ's with. With his grandma and grandpa. I haven't even told him yet. I. I haven't even told aj. I. I don't. I don't know how to break it to him. I hope he's not watching. But it's. It's. That's his hero, you know? And it's. It's. He wears Hogan shirt every day. He always asked me to watch him because it speaks to something that's larger than life, and it's a very better world to live in when you have people like Hulk Hogan there and presented the way they did. So thank God he came out for Trump. Thank God that Trump was willing to give him that chance to do that. And we had the video because my buddy Sarabian had the video from backstage. He was there with Cliff Sims and Stephen Chung and those guys that Hogan wrote that whole promo at the rnc. He wrote. That was all him. That was. And. And. And I'll tell you. All right, all right, Andy. Yeah, I was supposed to say this publicly. They had this. They handed him the script, and he looked at it, and he goes, that doesn't work for me, brother.
- [47:45]
Kevin Posobic
Let's go. That's what it is. That's what it is. It's all. It's impromptu. I mean, he's a Christian. He's muscular. He tells you to take your vitamins. Like, that is a fantastic role model. And I'm tired of all these zoomers saying, like, oh, don't wave the flag. Like, it's so cringe. Like, look at you. Like, blah, blah, blah. Like, no, this is what we need. This is one of the best patriotic things you could do. Just be happy to be.
- [48:10]
Jack Posobic
Where can people follow you, man?
- [48:12]
Kevin Posobic
Yeah. Oh, you can follow me at Instagram and on X, Kevin Pasovic, and follow me to Hogan's Hangout tonight. I'll be there.
- [48:21]
Jack Posobic
Hogan's Hangout.