The Masks Have Fallen: Democrats and Leftist Churches Oppose Refugees Who are White

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Podcast Summary: Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec

Episode: The Masks Have Fallen: Democrats and Leftist Churches Oppose Refugees Who are White
Release Date: May 14, 2025
Host: Jack Posobiec
Platform: Human Events Daily

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1. Introduction

In this episode of Human Events Daily, host Jack Posobiec delves into pressing socio-political issues impacting the United States and the global landscape. The discussion spans topics from the contentious arrival of South African refugees, the significant shift within the Catholic Church with the election of Pope Leo XIV, to the burgeoning populist movements in Eastern Europe, particularly Romania.

2. South African Refugees and the "White Genocide" Narrative

Posobiec opens the discussion by addressing the surge of South African refugees to the U.S., framing it within the narrative of "white genocide." He criticizes Democratic and leftist opposition to white refugees, highlighting a perceived double standard in refugee acceptance policies.

• Key Points:

  • South African refugees fleeing what is termed "white genocide."
  • Critique of former Obama advisor’s statements on CNN denying the genocide and labeling white refugees as colonialists.
  • Assertion of systemic anti-white bias and discrimination in current U.S. policies.

• Notable Quote:

  "There's an actual element of systemic bigotry and discrimination that's going on here and it's anti-white hate. And that's actually what's happening, folks."
  — Jack Posobiec [06:00]

3. Election of Pope Leo XIV and Its Implications

A significant portion of the episode focuses on the election of Pope Leo XIV, the first American pope, replacing Pope Francis. Dr. Taylor Marshall provides an in-depth analysis of the conclave's proceedings and the geopolitical ramifications of this transition.

• Key Points:

  • Pope Leo XIV’s election marks a return to traditional Catholic practices.
  • The conservative and moderate cardinals successfully blocked the progressive candidate, Cardinal Parolin.
  • Hopes for renewal within the Catholic Church and improved relations with American Catholics.
  • The role of the Vatican’s financial struggles and the influence of American Catholic donations.

• Notable Quotes:

  "We've had Pope Francis for 12 years, and he had appointed 108 of the 133 electors... Once that [blocking a progressive candidate] happens, the cardinals have to look around."
  — Dr. Taylor Marshall [07:58]

  "Many Catholics, myself included, around the world, are just so hopeful and so delighted that we perhaps are going to see a renewal in the Catholic Church."
  — Dr. Taylor Marshall [08:05]

4. Financial Affairs of the Vatican and U.S. Catholic Relations

The conversation shifts to the Vatican's financial state, emphasizing the decline in church attendance and donations in the U.S., contrasted with growth in other regions.

• Key Points:

  • Declining church attendance and financial contributions in the U.S. are forcing the Vatican to sell properties.
  • Pope Francis’s strained relationship with American Catholics contributed to financial instability.
  • Cardinal Parolin’s deal with the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) exacerbated internal Vatican conflicts.
  • Importance of American Catholic support for the Vatican’s financial health.

• Notable Quotes:

  "The Pew’s empty. The collection baskets are light... we cannot continue to push away the Catholic Church in the United States of America."
  — Jack Posobiec [17:21]

  "Cardinal Parolin was... the mastermind of this plot in China that right there killed it."
  — Dr. Taylor Marshall [13:51]

5. Romania’s Presidential Election and Populist Movements

Posobiec and his guests examine the unexpected success of George Simeon in Romania’s presidential elections, drawing parallels to populist movements in the U.S.

• Key Points:

  • George Simeon surpassing poll expectations with 41% of the vote.
  • Impact of underrepresented rural voters in pre-election polling.
  • The role of social media and grassroots movements in Simeon’s success.
  • Similarities between Romania’s populist surge and the 2016 U.S. election.

• Notable Quotes:

  "Simeon far outperformed what anybody was expecting... it's starting to look like a people's mandate here in Romania."
  — Will Donahue [27:06]

  "So George Simeon came out with 41% of the vote with his next, you know, closest person at just under 21... people are ready to put him over the line and get on with business here."
  — Charlie Kirk [25:43]

6. Geostrategic Importance of Romania in NATO and U.S. Policy

The discussion transitions to Romania's strategic significance within NATO, especially concerning its proximity to Ukraine and access to the Black Sea.

• Key Points:

  • Romania’s border with Ukraine positions it as a frontline state in the U.S. proxy war against Russia.
  • The establishment of the largest NATO base in Europe within Romania enhances its strategic value.
  • U.S. President Trump's engagement with Romanian leadership to bolster economic and security ties.
  • Emphasis on combating globalism and strengthening NATO alliances.

• Notable Quotes:

  "Romania has a significant bearing on the role of Romania within NATO and by extension the role of America within NATO and how we match up."
  — Jack Posobiec [37:43]

  "The President of Romania is crucial because their leadership directly impacts NATO’s stance against former Soviet influences."
  — Charlie Kirk [38:17]

7. Closing Remarks

The episode concludes with endorsements of community events and promotions related to the conservative movement, underscoring the podcast’s commitment to advocating for "America First" policies and combating globalist agendas.

• Key Points:

  • Promotion of upcoming events like the Student Action Summit.
  • Encouragement to support conservative initiatives and movements.
  • Final remarks reinforcing the importance of vigilance against globalism and support for national sovereignty.

• Notable Quote:

  "Why do we care so much about these foreign countries?... Globalism needs to be fought in every corner of the planet."
  — Jack Posobiec [35:21]

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Conclusion

In this episode, Jack Posobiec and his guests provide a critical examination of current global and domestic issues from a conservative perspective. They highlight perceived injustices against white refugees, significant changes within the Catholic Church, and the rise of populist movements in Eastern Europe, emphasizing the interconnectedness of these events with broader themes of national sovereignty and opposition to globalism.

Transcript

[Jack Posobic]

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[Charlie Kirk]

A commentator, international social media sensation and former Navy intelligence veteran.

[Jack Posobic]

This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobic. Christ is so.

[Fox News Alert]

This is a FOX News alert. Riding along with ICE agents during a week long operation in Texas as they arrest hundreds and and they take some of the most dangerous criminal migrants off the streets, including a convicted murderer. In total, they arrested 422 illegal migrants. The majority had criminal convictions or pending criminal convictions. So we're talking everything from murder, aggravated assault to sexual assault of a child. Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Will face questions from lawmakers today.

[Health and Human Services Secretary]

We took the Biden guidelines, which were 453 pages long and were clearly written by industry that are incomprehensible, driven by the same industry capture and those kind of carnal impulses that put Fruit Loops at the top of the food pyramid. And we are changing that. So we're going to have four page dietary guidelines that tell people essentially eat whole food, eat the food that's good for you. That's going to drive changes in the school lunch programs.

[President Trump]

I will be ordering the cessation of.

[Dr. Taylor Marshall]

Sanctions against Syria in order to give them a chance at greatness.

[Fox News Alert]

What happens on Thursday if President Moon doesn't show up in Turkey for the talks with Ukraine? What will you do?

[Dr. Taylor Marshall]

Well, I don't know if he's showing up. I know he, he would like me to be there and that's a possibility. We could end the war. I'd be thinking about that now. Tomorrow we're all pumped out, you understand, and we're all set. But you'd go if he goes UAE tomorrow. And so we have a very low situation now. That doesn't mean I wouldn't do it to save a lot of lives and come back.

[Jack Posobic]

Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily. We're here live in Rainy, cloudy Washington, D.C. today is May 14, 2025 Anno Dominique. Well the story of the South African refugees arriving in the United States has really just taken on a life of its own. These people fleeing what many have called white genocide. We had a huge interview here yesterday talking about the abject brutality that white farmers faced in South. But the reason it's taken on a life of its own is because a former Obama adviser went on CNN last night and was up there talking about the fact that number one, well, she said, number one, your genocide isn't real, so denies it, then says that the refugees don't count because they're actually colonizers to Africa even though they've been there for 400 years. And they should be sent back to Europe. They should be sent back to Europe. So let's see if I can figure out the new rules, if you will, as defined by the theory of CNN genocide. Apparently these are the new rules. White countries must accept all migrants. However, white people are not allowed to be refugees. White countries are. And white people are all colonizers. Even countries like say Ireland or Poland that never actually had colonies, then all indigenous land must always be protected for indigenous people. Except for white people. Again, those people aren't allowed to have their own homeland. White people aren't allowed to have anything, by the way. And if you are in poverty, if you're a poor white person, there's nothing for you. The government doesn't care about you. There's no programs for you. The entire infrastructure, the post 60s infrastructure that's been set up in this country of nonprofits. There's no scholarships, by the way. And if you try to set up a scholarship or program just for low income white people, guess what? You're probably going to face hate speech charges. But hey folks, remember, you're all the beneficiaries of white privilege and systemic racism, right? Yeah. No, I think there is an actual element of systemic bigotry and discrimination that's going on here and it's anti white hate. And that's actually what's happening, folks. The masks are all falling off and all I can sit here is do and say, well, I think someone told you about that all along. We'll be right back. Understand what America first truly means. Welcome to the second American Revolution. Jack Sobeck, here we are back human events daily. We are live on Real America's Voice. And now also bringing in the third hour of the Charlie Kirk show on the Salem Radio Network. Folks, I got a question for you. Have you seen the latest fluoride headlines about the water supply? See the future of oral care. It's not fluoride. It's actually peptides. And the wellness company just launched the first ever peptide toothpaste that regenerates gum tissues, strengthens enamel and naturally whitens your teeth. It's called Smile, a doctor formulated breakthrough that works with your body's natural repair process. This advanced formula blends targeted peptides with blue spirulina, aloe vera and powerful remineralizers to boost blood flow, stimulate collagen and help rebuild lost gum tissue, all while gently whitening without sensitivity. No fluoride, no peroxide, no artificial dyes, just real clean ingredients that fight the bad bacteria and support a healthier mouth from the inside out. Ready to upgrade your oral health Experience the future of oral care with Smile. Again, fluoride free and you'll get 10% off plus free shipping on every order when you head to TWC Health POSO and use promo code poso Take action today for your healthier tomorrow TWC Health slash poso. Very excited here. Of course we've been talking about the Pope, the new, the election of the new Pope. Of course. We were there in Rome last week at the conclave, one of the guests that we were attempting to get up again. When you're in a, in a, in a crowd of 50, 000 people, sometimes it's tough to get the connection going. But we weren't able to get this guest on last week but we've got him on today because we're back home, back stateside, back in the beautiful US of A. It's Dr. Taylor Marshall who joins us now. Dr. Marshall, how are you?

[Dr. Taylor Marshall]

Great crisis tring and we have a Pope.

[Jack Posobic]

Absolutely. Christ is king. So, so I, I, I've read some of the reports out there talking about how Cardinal Burke and others moved to block this Bergoglio wing of installing a real progressive and that really this, this idea of a bridge between both camps has emerged. And that was the election of Prevost, now Pope Leo xiv. What have you heard, what are you hearing and what are your thoughts?

[Dr. Taylor Marshall]

Well, we've had Pope Francis for 12 years and he had appointed 108 of the 133 electors. So going in, it was going to look progressive, it was going to look liberal. And the key candidate for the liberal progressives was Cardinal Parolin, who's the Secretary of State, the Vatican. And it seemed almost impossible to undo that. And yet here we are a week later and we have Pope Leo xiv. And how did this happen? Well, it appears that in the first few ballots Cardinal Parolin could not get anything close to even a 50% majority. And that I think is due to conservatives and moderates linking together to block that vote. It takes 45 votes in this last election to block a candidate. They were successful in doing that. Once that happens, the cardinals have to look around because you need a 2/3 majority to elect a pope. Not a 51%, a 2/3. And at the end of the day, they needed someone who could maybe shave away some of those votes from Paralynne and join the American cardinals, join the Asians, join the Africans, join the conservatives in Europe. And that candidate was Cardinal Prevost. And he's already done many symbolic gestures that many people don't recognize. The way he came out on the balcony is in line with the traditional attire of the popes. He said the blessing in Latin hasn't been said since 1939. Many, many signals, though. His pectoral cross, him taking up residence in the papal apartments, signaling a change, a break with Pope Francis. And many Catholics, myself included, around the world, are just so hopeful and so delighted that we perhaps are going to see a renewal in the Catholic Church. And he's American. And so we have President Trump in the White House. We have Pope Leo xiv, a man from Chicago in the Vatican. And Jack, next year is the 250th anniversary jubilee of the United States of America. I really hope Pope Francis says, pope Leo, will you please come join us to celebrate 250 years of America? Can you imagine what that would look like to have Trump and Pope Leo celebrating 250 years of the United States of America? If so, we are so back, Jack. It's going to be incredible.

[Jack Posobic]

Well, yeah, and of course, I always, you know, whenever, whenever Charlie Kirk, my, my, my evangelical buddy, and I get in, get into it, back and forth, he said, well, you know, America and Catholics, it' know that's an Ellis island thing. I said, well, hold on a second, hold on a second. If I remember correctly, America was founded by a Catholic or discovered by a Catholic with Christopher Columbus. And hold on a second, wait, wait. America is also named after a Catholic, Amerigo Vespucci. So we got two pretty good claims to blame right there, as well as signers of the Declaration and members of George Washington's Revolutionary War Council. And you had Polish Catholics that were involved, like Kosciuszko and Pulaski and so many others. But, and of course, it's always, it's nice back and forth that we do, but, you know, I'd love to also see his brother by the way Lou Prevost up there as well, I'm sure President Trump will be more than happy to have Lou over, who is also shipmates with Steve Bannon. Come to find out on, on a ship in the Navy some time back. Dr. Marshall, when it, you know, when, when we see all these signs, we're trying to figure out what's going on. One of the pieces of reporting that's come out from an old colleague of mine, Alex Salvi. We were at OAN together. He's now at Newsmax, and he's been stationed in Rome for a few years now. He mentioned that really one of the things that scuttled Harold's candidacy was this deal that was made with the ccp. And in fact, the Asian cardinals completely turned against him once they found out that he was involved. Are you hearing that as well?

[Dr. Taylor Marshall]

100%. Yeah. Cardinal Parolin was. He brokered a deal with the help of ex Cardinal McCarrick, who was the one who was kicked out of the priesthood. He was removed from being a cardinal for the credible allegations of molesting young male children. And that deal was a partnership with Pope Francis, Cardinal Parolin and ex Cardinal McCarrick. It's been a disaster. It's been an embarrassment in the Catholic Church. Cardinal Zen of Hong Kong repeatedly begged for the deal not to go through. Francis and Perelin pushed it through. Basically the short version of it is there has been since the 50s, two versions of the Catholic Church, the underground faithful Catholic Church and the communist version of the Catholic Church. And basically the short version of it is they have regularized the, the communist national version of the Catholic Church and even given veto powers to the communist atheist government, veto powers over bishops in China, which is just.

[Jack Posobic]

And by the way, Dr. Marshall, just, just so you know, from my own experience and folks, folks know that I spent two years as a Catholic in China that if I wanted to go to a mass on Easter, that was being said by, by a priest who came from out of China. So this was sort of like an international one. It was going to be in English. I had to show my passport to Chinese police officers before I was allowed into church on Easter to prove that I was not a Chinese citizen, nor that I was bringing a Chinese citizen because they were so worried about someone hearing about the word of God and the good news of the resurrection that was in Shanghai and that those people.

[Dr. Taylor Marshall]

Have been faithful and have been suffering under that tyranny for decades. And so it is a great betrayal. And Cardinal Zen knew it was a betrayal to the faithful Catholic Chinese people who have suffered torture, martyrdom, many of the bishops had rot in cells in China for years. And so for this deal to go through sort of quietly is a great scandal. So when the Asian and African cardinals come to Rome, they learn that Cardinal Parin is, in a way, the mastermind of this plot in China that right there killed it. And, and thanks be to God, and hopefully the new Holy Father, Pope Leo, will somehow right those wrongs in Asia.

[Jack Posobic]

Now, this was, this was justice for Cardinal's end. This was absolutely justice for Cardinal Zen and everything that he went through and more with the persecution of Hong Kong and what the CCP has done down there. And I'm glad that the Asian cardinals stood strong against that. Folks, we've got a quick break coming up. This is Jack Posobic. We've got breaking inside details from inside the Conclave from Rome. What's going on the geopolitics that structure one of the most powerful leaders in the world. We'll be right back. Quick break.

[Dr. Taylor Marshall]

Today.

[President Trump]

You know, they talk about influencers. These are influencers and they're friends of mine. Jack. Where's Jack? Jack? He's got a great job.

[Jack Posobic]

All right, Jack. We are back here, Human Events Daily. We're live on Real America's Voice in the Salem Radio network with our three Charlie Kuhn Kirk Show. We're on with Dr. Taylor Marshall. He's giving us key insights into what exactly happened inside the Conclave and the earliest days of Pope Leo XIV's papacy. And Dr. Marshall, one thing you and I were just talking during the break on this is one of the other big pieces that came out that's, that's starting to come out of this, reporting from Alex Salvi and others, is the, the state of the financial affairs of the Vatican. Now, a lot of people say, okay, oh, the Vatican, they're so rich. Look at all the churches. Look at the real estate. Yes, but the liquidity is the problem. And the deconsecration and selling off of churches is going on all throughout the United States, in major cities all over the place. It's because the coffers are low. Why are the coffers low? It's simple. The pews are empty. The collection baskets are light. They're all coming in light. So, yes, just because you have all this stuff doesn't mean you're getting the revenue that you need. And so one of the concerns that a lot of people have, and Steve Bannon's brought this up, I brought this up, is that, like, is that under the understanding, yes, church is growing in South America, the Church is growing in Africa, but with the money. The money is in the world's largest economy and that is the United States of America and those big dollar, high dollar American Catholics. So what do you do? You choose. And which of course, by the way is also part of the underwriting of the CCP deal is that the CCP is bailing out the Vatican under Francis. So the question I guess I have is, is the choice of the American Pope, the first American Pope, is it just because of this return to tradition as sort of all the outward signs are, or are there elements here of a hope within the Vatican of accessing those American high dollar donors?

[Dr. Taylor Marshall]

I mean, look, Pope Francis said that he was honored, that he was being attacked by the Americans. There was an open rivalry between American Catholics and Pope Francis that started probably somewhere in the, in the year 2015, 2016. That friction, that rivalry continued all the way up until this day. And yeah, if you, if you belittle and you drive away the American Catholics, you know, the big, the biggest countries of, of Catholics, Brazil, United States of America, you look at in terms of wealth, in terms of donation, it's the United States of America. Did it play a part? Undoubtedly it played a part. You know, Jesus Christ our Lord. In the Gospels, they talk about the bag or the purse that they carried with the money that, you know, Christ lived on for his ministry. There's always been a donation based part of the ministry of Jesus Christ and of the church ever, you know, since AD 33. That's part of it. So you have to also look at the books and say, can we balance our books? Are we running a deficit? And is offending and isolating the American Catholics a good strategy moving forward for another 10 years? All the cardinals have to look at that and say, that is a bad strategy. We cannot continue to push away the Catholic Church in the United States of America. So it is, I definitely think, part of the strategy here. And as an American Catholic, as a traditional Catholic, I welcome it. I want to see the Pope love all peoples. And I felt during Pope Francis that he loved everybody except for Americans. And he had denigrating things to say about President Trump. He had denigrating things to say about America, denigrating things to say about our policy. He wrote a document quickly trying to correct JD Vance, but he never tried to correct Joe Biden or many of the other nations who are doing nefarious things. So it just seemed that Pope Francis had it out for the Americans and I think the cardinal.

[Jack Posobic]

We want to see where that. Return to tradition. Dr. Marshall, I've just a couple of seconds until the break here. You got a new book that's coming out. It's in preorder. I've seen some, some early editions of it. Tell people all about it.

[Dr. Taylor Marshall]

Christian patriot, 12 ways to create one nation under God. We're tired of the degeneracy. We need a conservativism that is Christian, that is Christ centered. And so this new book, Christian Patriot, is a analysis of the Christian theology of government, of politics, and then gives us 12 practical strategies to create a culture, to create a nation that honors God in Jesus Christ. So it's for pre order. You can go to Christian. I'm sorry. Christian patriot book.com. christian patriot book.com for pre orders, signed copies. It's already a number one new release. It's doing great. And let's make this a movement. All right, we got it. We got it.

[Jack Posobic]

When is, when is your pub date?

[Dr. Taylor Marshall]

Pub date is tentative July 29th.

[Jack Posobic]

Okay. Okay. So get in there for the preorder right now, folks. Christian Patriot. This book is going to cut through all of the nonsense. It's time for Christians to be Christians in public once more. Active Christianity. No more Passive Christianity. Go and pre order this book Christian Patriot, the next bestseller. Dr. Taylor Marshall, make sure you're following him as well as Jack Posobic. Be right back. Here, quick break. Humans.

[Dr. Taylor Marshall]

And Jack. Where's Jack? Where's Jack? Where is he? Jack, I want to see you. Great job, Jack. Thank you. What a job you do. You know, we have an incredible thing. We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys and these are the guys should be getting policies.

[Jack Posobic]

All right, Jack Wisoba. Here we are back live human events daily. We're live on Real America's Voice and the Salem Radio News Network welcoming of course, our three Charlie Kirk audience. Folks, I gotta tell you something. There is something going on with our farmland here in the United States and it's not getting enough attention. You see, it's the Chinese, the ccp. They've been buying up hundreds of thousands of acres of US Farmland. They've also taken control over critical supply chains, things like fertilizer, animal field feed, farming equipment. Why? It's clear they're tightening their grip on global food production. And if things go south, we need to be ready. That's why I trust my Patriot supply. They're America's largest emergency preparedness company. And right now, when you get their four week emergency food supply. You'll get four free 72 hour food kits, an extra 12 days of food absolutely free. That's four weeks of delicious meals that last up to 25 years, delivering 2,000 calories per day, shipped fast and free. Look, we can't control what China does, but we can control how prepared we are. Go to my patriotsupply.com today to claim your 12 days of free food. Shop my patriotsupply.com my patriotsupply.com folks and I'll even have to tell you, did you look at the, look at the news out of Spain and parts of Western Europe when they went through that blackout just a couple of weeks ago? What did we find? Well, we found that it messed with the computer servers that run a lot of the registers and the counters in supermarkets. So here's what happened to all of those people that were affected by this in Spain. They could go to the supermarket, the food was there, but it couldn't be purchased. So even if they had cash, this system wasn't working for them. So they couldn't buy food all because of a power outage. Did you ever think that a power outage would mean that you couldn't get food for your family? That's the way everything is set up now. Cash doesn't work when you are in one of those situations. You need to have the supplies ready to protect yourselves and protect your family. And that's what you do with my Patriot supply. Really excited for our next guest. As folks know, I just got back from Bucharest, Romania after also visiting the, the conclave, my first conclave, but in Bucharest, Romania, just an absolute barn burner of an election that's coming on a huge, huge rebuke, I would say, of the globalists. And in fact, right in a key territory for NATO, the eastern flank of NATO, right on the borders of Ukraine, along with Poland and Hungary, that being Romania. And so had the opportunity to visit and sit down in a full hour long interview that has been just doing incredible numbers, record numbers for us here on Human Events Daily, but also for any presidential candidate in, in Romanian history here in the United States. Giving me the honor of being able to sit down with George Simeon. We also have two guests that join us now from Romania to talk about this election and the, and the Polish election which are coming up, believe it or not, on the same exact day. We've got Will Donahue, the president of the College Republicans of America and Tom Danz, the CEO of American Daybreak. What's up guys?

[Charlie Kirk]

Hey, Jack. Great to be with you. Thanks for having us.

[Will Donahue]

Thanks for having us on. Jack, Great news.

[Jack Posobic]

So, so let's let you know, just start off and you guys can fight over who talks first. But am I making it up? The buzz was crazy when I was there in Romania last week for George and people are coming up to him. There's TikTok videos going viral. Social media is playing just as much of a role in that election as it did in our election. It felt to me like October 2024. But it's, you know, it's, it's May 2025 in Romania. It's that same type of Trump populist energy that we saw in the United States. That's what's going on in Romania right now. Are you seeing the same thing?

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, we, you know, this is a group of people that are not going to be denied. Right. This is, they've gone through. This is really almost the fourth time at that here. So this, you know, and I'm talking fact that they had a presidential election back in December that was then nullified. People spoke very loudly then and they have since. So but and the big event, you know, two weeks ago when they came out, George, so they have a system here. So people are familiar with an all comers initial election and then a runoff of the top two vote getters. Right. So two weeks ago, George Simeon came out with 41% of the vote with his next, you know, closest person at just under 21, so very close to that 50% threshold. And, you know, people are ready to put him over the line and get on with business here.

[Will Donahue]

Yeah, I think the, probably the most important part of that was all of the polling up to that point only had him at 31 to 34% of the vote. No poll had him over 38%. And so when we were running models, that's just not what we were expecting. Simeon far outperformed what anybody was expecting to the same kind of extent that President Trump beat on Biden. It's starting to look like a people's mandate here in Romania.

[Charlie Kirk]

And Jack, so, you know, for people understand, how did he so over perform or basically, in some respects, you know, how was it missed? Well, one thing that's peculiar to Romania and it is kind of a part of a, an outgrowth of a globalist, you know, history that they've been under here, is that there's a significant amount of vote that is from the Romanian diaspora. So this is a country which amazingly, you know, for the viewers background, you know, we're talking About a place, give or take the size of Wyoming, right. With a population that is, depending on who's counting, around 18 to 19 million with. But interestingly enough, that's 6 million fewer than 1989 when this, the country was under communism. And it's the same number 60 years ago. So this country has been de growth. That's the globalist goal, right. So they've actually been successful here. What they've done is push out a lot of Romanians overseas. And so a lot of families here are relying on money coming back. And it's gotten so bad that now when growth does occur, the country ironically even needs to import labor. So they're bringing in.

[Jack Posobic]

And one thing, guys, and I'll just say it, is that, you know, and George said it when I was there with him. I didn't even want to put words in his mouth. He said it himself. This was, this was what Bucharest specifically was one of the main targets of George Soros's open society agenda after the fall of communism. It was George Soros operating. Remember he originally came out of Hungary himself in Budapest right next door there, and then came into Bucharest, was working, working on Poland, working on so many areas specifically in this region to get his network and his people in place. And that's why you saw, as you say, these, these open borders, these, these third world migrants, the third, third country workers coming in from, you know, migrant workers coming in across areas, by the way, where the Romanians themselves in many cases are also facing economic issues where they want the employment and they can't get it because these workers are coming in and this, this guy, similar last name to yours, by the way, Tom. But we're not going to get into that. We're not going to be making, making it. That's. He's Don's not Dan or. No, he's Dan. You're Don's. But, but we're nick it on Dons. But we're, we're not gonna, we're not gonna, we're not gonna go through the, the, you know, the full 23andMe on that. But, but let me ask you, do you think that it's going to be a similar situation? And this is my hope and prayer because we saw that George is doing so well. He's overperforming. He's actually gone up to Poland for a series of rallies with their populist nationalist candidate Carol Novsky, who is unfortunately currently underperforming in the second round polls. However, the polls of the polls. Do you believe that this underperform or excuse me, overperformance of the polls could also take place in Poland. Who has their election on the same day.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, well, I'll let will jump in here, but I think we can say at this point from the MAGA world, the nationalist populist corner of polling, that typically we are underrepresented in polls. There's not too many times that they over state our especially early polls performance. So, you know, June, the second round is still far out. I think there's multiple events that will happen between now and then that's going to affect that outcome. So he's very much in the game. And I think, you know, this Sunday's positive result that we're all hoping for is going to be another dynamic factor in that.

[Will Donahue]

Yeah. With the Romanian polls, what we were looking at is just problems with their census. Back in Covid times, they, they did a census, really didn't have accurate poll accurate numbers on their population data. And so when polls were coming out, they heavily underrepresented the rural vote. You know, we, we were looking at the urban versus rural vote and urban was far overrepresented, but rural was way more underrepresented. So we actually ended up getting more votes than we were expecting to the tune of somewhere in the range of 2 to 500,000, which all ended up going in Simeon's favor because he is supported by rural voters. When it comes to Poland, you know, I think their polls are a little more accurate. It's not looking terrific for Novrusky. Somewhere between 44 and 46%. By no means is that helping is because it looks like our new connection is a little unstable right now. Is to help make up the difference in that 3 to 5% that is necessary to make him competitive.

[Jack Posobic]

No, I think that's, I think that's exactly right. And I'm certainly hoping that some of the, you know, some of the boost from seeing this, this block and of course Viktor Orban has also come out. Actually, when I was there in Romania, Viktor Orban had released a message and, and so for people who don't quite get the, the, the politics of the area, there have been long standing and I'm, when I say long standing, I mean like hundreds and thousands of years of long standing tensions between these various regions, Poland, Ukraine, Romania and Hungary regarding the borders regarding various regions. Keep in mind these were the battlefields of World War II, the battlefields of World War I and so many other wars that took place over the over time. This was the land of Europe that was behind the Iron Curtain that was given, that was given to the Soviet Union at Yalta, this absolute just betrayal of the Eastern Europeans, forcing them to live under the godless, atheist, brutal yoke of communism. And so certainly something that I've said begs a reassessment of World War II and our history there and an understanding of how it was that that war ended up with Joseph Stalin coming out of it with a communist empire that stretched from Berlin all the way to Beijing. This is what we're dealing with, trying to allow these countries to join this populist nationalist movement to seek their own destiny. Right. We're America first guys around here. But we are against globalism in all its forms wherever it is found. Jack Posobic, we're coming right back here on Human Events. We've got a very quick break. We'll be right back.

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[Jack Posobic]

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[Jack Posobic]

Rasobic, we are back here. Final segment, Human Events live on Real America's Voice and the Salem Radio Radio Network. We are back on. We've got Will Donahue, the president of the College Republicans of America, and Tom Dan, the CEO of American Daybreak. But they're not joining us. United States of America. They're joining us from Bucharest, Romania. Guys, we're all Americans. You know, why do we care so much about these foreign countries? I thought this was America first. You know, Trump's over in Saudi Arabia and Qatar and he's going to the Emirates tomorrow. You know, why should we care about all these elections that are going on? Shouldn't we just be Fortress America and close the northern and southern border, throw up the Navy on the coastlines and say the heck with it. Why does it matter that globalism be fought in every corner of the planet?

[President Trump]

Sure.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, hey, you know, we talk about an interconnected world. There really is a connection between Pennsylvania and Transylvania. And I'll explain what that means.

[Jack Posobic]

He went there. He went there.

[Charlie Kirk]

So, you know, this is the front line of what NATO is basically their raison dietra is, is supposed to be matching up against what was the former Comic Con countries and, and the Soviet Union, but this is the front line of it. So actually, if you roll forward to what's happening in Romania today, they are building the largest NATO base in Europe in, in the very kind of eastern part of the country here. It's called MK Base.

[Jack Posobic]

So people need to know that Romania has, Romania has two things that people need to understand from a geostrategic perspective. They have that border with Ukraine where, where the current war proxy, US Proxy war against Russia. And that's what it is, has been ongoing, but also it has access to the Black Sea and that access to the Black Sea is everything for military operations, geostrategic operations. Also, I'm being told that President Trump is, is potentially going to be speaking very soon at the state dinner in Qatar. And we're going to be, I'm being told by the network, we're going to cut to that as soon as it comes on. But guys, walk us through a little bit more about this geostrategic importance of Romania.

[Charlie Kirk]

So it gets to being very important who the president of Romania is, because that individual, that man, that woman, has a very important bearing on the role of Romania within NATO and by extension the role of America within NATO and how we match up. So keep in mind what happened with the Russian invasion here is that technically Romania went to gained a border against Russia with the invasion of Ukraine. Now there's a maritime border where Romania actually matches up with.

[Jack Posobic]

It matches up directly. Guys, the pre the President Trump has begun speaking. We have the audio. Thanks so much for joining. We will be cutting to that right now.

[President Trump]

Your country now stands as a hub of global commerce, acts as a key diplomatic force of the world stage, and has even hosted the World Cup. People said, oh, the World cup is going in. Congratulations. He's coming to the United States, actually. Thank you. Great job you do, John. The Amir is building a stunning legacy of economic progress, engineering marvels. What I've seen is incredible and cultural attainment that should make this entire nation so very, very proud. They are proud. Our friends at Winfrey is so proud. Your Name is to look at the shimmering skyline. Go for the beautiful waterfront Broadway, which I just looked at a little while ago. There wasn't a tree out of place to understand JAR is amazing path to modernization and prosperity. And you've done it all while honoring your heritage. You've always seen your heritage. You have giving it up, maintaining your culture, embracing your national traditions. To the emir, the royal family and to this entire nation, congratulations on a spectacular job. Well done. Congratulations. Really, son. As you can see from the extraordinary range of leaders and pioneers in this room, the biggest people, successful people, the most powerful people. Everyone wants to come and witness what is happening right here. As president, I'm proud that our growing friendship is possible into a full fledged economic and security partnership. As we've seen clearly on the Strip because we're setting records on the Strip for bringing Atlanta investment back into the United States of America. Is coming back at levels never seen. These people never seen anything like it in two months. We're more than anybody. I don't think is there anything. I don't think there's ever anything for us and that leads into any. In addition to our merit that will lead to the $1.2 trillion of economic activity before we even start Boeing deal and all of the other deals that we talked about. Today we're police using fire military millions and millions of dollars of RA equipment and we're going to get a glimpse of some of it tomorrow morning at your military base. Which is incredible by the way. Earlier today we were honored the escort of eight F15s from your air force. And I will say that I asked the father Air Force One, do we need that? And in bed edge he said, well, I'd rather have them. That wasn't really the eggs I was looking at. He didn't say that. But here we are. They were stopped. They were looking. It's a little disconcerting when you see it landing those 2,000 miles. Now we're actually going 500 miles an hour. Was a spring and a blade. You look at it, you can read the pilot's name on his helmet and it's pretty plus. But they were great. They were great pilots. And saying that you have chosen the mighty Falcon as a symbol of your nation representing dignity and strength. That's what the Falcon represents. Our entire partnership pet spirit. Last weekend when you helped negotiate the release of the last living American hostage in Gaza, Egan Alexander. Hopefully this is a stepping stone for getting the rest of the hostages back. That was something that you really did.

[Jack Posobic]

Help us a lot.

[President Trump]

Steve. Woodcraft and Marco here want to thank you. Steve, Marco, Scott out. Everybody was involved, involved. Put a lot of hostages back involved in. You're also working with us very closely with respect to negotiate the deal with Iran, which is the far friendlier course that you would see. Two courses. There's only two courses. There are three or four or five. Two. There's a friendly and a non friendly, non friendly, violent.

[Jack Posobic]

And I don't want that.

[President Trump]

I said I don't want that. They have to get over. I hope the OR leaders understand that what you're doing, really what you're doing for them is a big favor. Your prime minister, your great leader right here on my left has been helping so much and they respect them and they're listening and they have to get moving. We both understand that they have to make that decision. It's their decision because we want to see Iran do well, thrive, be successful and everybody be happy. I know many Iranians, I know many Iranians living in New York and Washington, D.C. they're great people and we want have this end peacefully, not horribly so. I just want to thank, thank united us for that act of help. We're really helping the region, we're helping the world, we're helping the country. And we'll try to get it done if we can. We're going to try to get it done. They have to move quickly. And I just hope Iran realizes what a good friend they have right here. And in a certain sense.