Podcast Summary: "The Twisted World of Tyler Robinson and Lance Twiggs"
Podcast: Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec
Episode Date: November 27, 2025
Guests: Liz Wheeler (Host, The Liz Wheeler Show)
Main Theme:
A deep dive into the reported leaks and personal histories behind the accused assassin of Charlie Kirk, Tyler Robinson, and his alleged partner, Lance Twiggs. The episode investigates toxic relationships, radicalization, subcultures, drug use, mental illness, and the societal forces feeding a shocking act of political violence.
Overview
Jack Posobiec and guest Liz Wheeler examine disturbing new details about Tyler Robinson, accused of assassinating conservative figure Charlie Kirk. Drawing upon leaked images, messages, and firsthand accounts—particularly an investigative YouTuber’s exposé (Turkey Tom)—they explore Robinson’s toxic, co-dependent relationship with Lance Twiggs. Together, the hosts dissect how radicalization, leftist and trans ideologies, online subcultures (notably the furry community), hard drug use, and mental illness all played alleged roles in this case. The discussion is both investigative and philosophical, raising larger questions about the modern American youth crisis and the mechanisms of radicalization.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
The Source of the Leaks and Early Reporting
- Turkey Tom’s Investigation:
- YouTuber Turkey Tom released a highly detailed video and Substack based on extensive leaks from a friend and former roommate of both Tyler Robinson and Lance Twiggs. This source provided inside photos, Discord messages, and intimate portraits of their relationship and living conditions.
“A YouTuber by the name of Turkey Tom... put out a very interesting video... someone had reached out to him... a friend and sometime even roommate of both Tyler Robinson and Lance Twiggs...” — Jack Posobiec [03:02]
- YouTuber Turkey Tom released a highly detailed video and Substack based on extensive leaks from a friend and former roommate of both Tyler Robinson and Lance Twiggs. This source provided inside photos, Discord messages, and intimate portraits of their relationship and living conditions.
- Verification:
- Both Jack and Liz stress the credibility of these leaks, given the unique photos matching the known apartment and context, plus messages corroborated by rental listings and online activity.
“The proof that this individual provided, you know, photos of inside the apartment, photos of Lance Twigs’s really demented artwork... insider accounts of verifiable background details…” — Liz Wheeler [08:12]
- Both Jack and Liz stress the credibility of these leaks, given the unique photos matching the known apartment and context, plus messages corroborated by rental listings and online activity.
The Robinson-Twiggs Relationship: Toxicity, Subculture, and Radicalization
- Environment and Mental Illness:
- Detailed descriptions paint “Twigs’s nest”—chaotic piles of wires, mold experiments, filth—reflecting escalating mental instability.
- Both men are depicted as isolated, psychologically unwell, and locked into a dysfunctional, destructive living situation.
- Sexual Subculture – The “Furry” Community:
- The hosts delve into the significance of Robinson and Twiggs’s “furry” sexual fetishes, describing practices like “pup play” and “cub porn” which merge animal roleplay with adult and (disturbingly) youth-coded personas.
“It’s a fetish where grown men dress up like animals in order to have perverted sex with each other... there’s role play... one adult animal having sex with a cub...” — Liz Wheeler [21:31] “The slang term that is used in the furry community... is called puppy play or pup play... Tyler Robinson was looking at furry porn, which included... cub porn...” — Jack Posobiec [23:04]
- The hosts delve into the significance of Robinson and Twiggs’s “furry” sexual fetishes, describing practices like “pup play” and “cub porn” which merge animal roleplay with adult and (disturbingly) youth-coded personas.
- Grooming & Manipulation:
- Speculation that Twigs, with severe psychological issues and substance abuse, groomed Robinson (who was reportedly sexually inexperienced and emotionally vulnerable) into a sexual relationship and eventually into political radicalization.
“Maybe Lance Twigs had sexually groomed Tyler Robinson into a relationship with him... when you engage in immoral acts, it twists your moral compass...” — Liz Wheeler [25:03]
- Speculation that Twigs, with severe psychological issues and substance abuse, groomed Robinson (who was reportedly sexually inexperienced and emotionally vulnerable) into a sexual relationship and eventually into political radicalization.
Drugs, Black Market Hormones, and Online Radicalization
- Rampant Substance Abuse:
- Heavy use of alcohol, THC, mushrooms, LSD, Molly (MDMA), and black-market hormone replacement therapy (HRT)—all compounding instability and blurring gender/identity boundaries.
“Lance Twigs as... a frequent user... he vaped THC... used shrooms, LSD, Molly... black market HRT that he had gotten just from a local drug dealer...” — Liz Wheeler [28:41]
- Heavy use of alcohol, THC, mushrooms, LSD, Molly (MDMA), and black-market hormone replacement therapy (HRT)—all compounding instability and blurring gender/identity boundaries.
- Schizophrenia and AI:
- Twiggs, during periods of instability, reportedly conversed in gibberish with ChatGPT and others, signaling a complete breakdown in reality perception.
- Inceldom and Online Alienation:
- Robinson’s lack of sexual experience and alienation are interpreted in context of “incel rage,” searching for validation through extreme subcultural behavior and eventually, alleged political violence.
“It actually sounds like this was incel behavior from Tyler Robinson’s case... overdoses on these Internet subcultures... looking for some kind of validation...” — Jack Posobiec [30:23]
- Robinson’s lack of sexual experience and alienation are interpreted in context of “incel rage,” searching for validation through extreme subcultural behavior and eventually, alleged political violence.
Radicalization, Political Violence, and Societal Drivers
- Radical Left/Trans Activism:
- Robinson had become increasingly “leftist” and pro-trans; Discord/online leaks reveal intense hatred toward Charlie Kirk and conservative figures, as well as violent, political, anti-fascist slogans engraved on spent casings at the crime scene.
“Authorities identified... Tyler Robinson... deep and deranged behavior, hard drugs, schizophrenia, and an interesting obsession with ChatGPT... black market HRT...” — Jack Posobiec [03:02] “Investigators noted inscriptions that had been engraved on casing’s. ‘Hey, fascist! catch. Bella ciao...’” — Jack Posobiec [19:17]
- Robinson had become increasingly “leftist” and pro-trans; Discord/online leaks reveal intense hatred toward Charlie Kirk and conservative figures, as well as violent, political, anti-fascist slogans engraved on spent casings at the crime scene.
- Societal Critique: The “One-Two Punch” of Identity Politics:
- Liz draws a through-line from critical race theory-induced “self-loathing” in white youth, to the adoption of radical gender ideology as a route from oppressor to oppressed—a process engineered, she argues, by leftist social movements.
“Young white men are told that they’re disgusting... the only thing they can do is reject their biology... and become something else... it transforms young people... to these radical revolutionaries.” — Liz Wheeler [40:34]
- Liz draws a through-line from critical race theory-induced “self-loathing” in white youth, to the adoption of radical gender ideology as a route from oppressor to oppressed—a process engineered, she argues, by leftist social movements.
- Monsters, Not Misunderstood:
- Jack and Liz reject the notion that society’s urge to “humanize monsters” should ever prevent holding individuals accountable for heinous acts.
“We can't do that from a legal perspective and from a societal justice perspective, can we?” — Jack Posobiec [34:25]
- Jack and Liz reject the notion that society’s urge to “humanize monsters” should ever prevent holding individuals accountable for heinous acts.
Historical Parallels: Leopold and Loeb
- 100-Year-Old Crime Echo:
- Jack compares the case to Leopold and Loeb, two highly intelligent young men in 1924 who committed a notorious murder out of a sense of superiority and perverse loyalty. He draws parallels in psychological dependence, perverse sexuality, isolation, and attempts at self-validation through criminality.
“... reminds me so much of... Leopold and Loeb... they decided to kidnap and murder a 14-year-old... they were in a homosexual affair with themselves... here we are 100 years later... only difference... it was transsexuality in this case.” — Jack Posobiec [38:09]
- Jack compares the case to Leopold and Loeb, two highly intelligent young men in 1924 who committed a notorious murder out of a sense of superiority and perverse loyalty. He draws parallels in psychological dependence, perverse sexuality, isolation, and attempts at self-validation through criminality.
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- On the Need for Evidence:
“We want to be shown the evidence. We want to watch the sausage being made. We don’t want to just believe it because it’s a salacious headline or it might verify the view that we want to hold.”
— Liz Wheeler [14:42] - On the Role of Subculture in Radicalization:
“It seems like a really sordid, demented, perverted tale of sexual fetishes and drugs... obvious mental illness at play... that’s going to cause a mental spiral, regardless of the baseline State of your mental health.”
— Liz Wheeler [17:08] - On Societal Context:
“This is an increasingly common ideology among young men in our country... There is a lot of left wing violence that is happening right now... we need to understand the formation of these people so that we can... stop it.”
— Liz Wheeler [35:30]
Important Timestamps
- 03:02 – Introduction of Turkey Tom’s investigation and leaks
- 08:12 – Liz Wheeler on the significance of the leaks and corroborating evidence
- 17:08 – Analysis of how the Robinson–Twiggs relationship developed and why
- 21:31 – Introduction to the “furry” sexual fetish and associated practices
- 28:41 – Discussion of prolific drug use, black market HRT, and the role of drugs in mental decline
- 34:25 – Broader cultural critique: monsters, morality, and justice
- 38:09 – Historical parallels: Leopold and Loeb
- 40:34 – Liz on critical race theory, identity, and radicalization of youth
Tone & Language
- Direct, investigative, uncompromising: The hosts do not mince words, describing events and evidence in vivid, sometimes graphic detail, to emphasize the severity and depravity they see in the case.
- Moralistic and alarmed: There is a strong through-line of concern about social decay, radicalization, and the impact of “leftist” ideologies on youth.
- Reflective and cross-referencing: The episode repeatedly contextualizes the case by referencing both historical crimes (Leopold and Loeb) and trends in online/real-world culture.
Closing Thoughts
Jack Posobiec and Liz Wheeler’s discussion is a window into the perceived breakdown of certain American social and moral norms, using the case of Tyler Robinson and Lance Twiggs as a disturbing microcosm. Both hosts call for accountability—not just for the crime, but for the ideological, cultural, and personal failings that led to it. While they are cautious about assigning legal blame to all involved (“I want to be very clear about this..."), both see this as a case study in how radicalization, identity confusion, online subculture, and untreated illness can produce tragic violence.
Recap Links
- Turkey Tom YouTube and Substack (for original leaked material referenced throughout the episode)
Guest Plugs
- Liz Wheeler:
- YouTube
- X (Twitter)
- Spotify: “The Liz Wheeler Show”
This summary is designed to serve as a thorough recap for those who haven’t listened, capturing both the granular detail of the case and the ideological analysis of the hosts.