THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 100 — Turning Point Halftime? Potatoes and Katie Porter? Hasan the Dog Shocker?

Summary

Podcast Summary: Human Events Daily – "THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 100 — Turning Point Halftime? Potatoes and Katie Porter? Hasan the Dog Shocker?"

Date: October 11, 2025
Host(s): Jack Posobiec (Washington, D.C.), with Blake Neff, Tyler Boyer, Michael McCoy (Phoenix, AZ)
Notable Topics: Turning Point’s alternative halftime show announcement, cultural commentary on the Super Bowl, discussion of Bad Bunny’s cultural influence, critiques of California gubernatorial candidate Katie Porter, the viral “dog shock collar” controversy with Hasan Piker, bro-shopping, Lord of the Rings “gay” debate

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Episode Overview

This milestone 100th episode of "Thought Crime" delivers raucous, unfiltered banter as Jack Posobiec and team address culture-war flashpoints and conservative movement happenings. The episode’s key focus is Turning Point USA’s push for a parallel “All-American” halftime event, cast as an answer to the politicized mainstream Super Bowl halftime show. Other talking points include culture and generational shifts (especially around celebrities like Bad Bunny), an extended roast of Katie Porter, the viral outcry over streamer Hasan Piker’s dog treatment, and musings on internet/guy culture.

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Key Topics & Insights

1. Turning Point’s “All-American Halftime Show” Announcement

[02:07–08:08]

• Jack, fresh from CPI’s D.C. studio, leads discussion on Turning Point USA hosting their own “All-American Halftime Show” to counter the official Super Bowl event, deemed “un-American” by the crew due to acts like Bad Bunny.
• Due to NFL trademarks, the hosts riff on the legal shenanigans of not being able to refer to the event as "Super Bowl," having to instead say “The Big Game.”
• The announcement rapidly went viral, with Turning Point inundated by emails and suggestions for musical guests, demonstrating the community’s appetite for overtly American, conservative-coded cultural products.

Quotes:

"I’ve never seen virality like this... The sporting event has announced that their halftime show... That’s why when you’re running a movement, you have to react to culture."
— Jack Posobiec [05:57]

"We're going to partner [with Corey Asbury on the show]—allegedly, maybe more to come."
— Michael McCoy [03:49]

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2. Mocking the “Mainstream” Super Bowl and Bad Bunny

[06:35–14:14]

• Crew derides the official Super Bowl halftime choice, Bad Bunny, for being unrelatable to English-speaking America, his political grandstanding, and monolingual Spanish performances.
• They mock the mainstream music industry’s “wokeness,” suggesting this alienates heartland Americans and justifies an alternative, patriotic halftime celebration.
• Extensive riffs on "trap" (both the music genre and the internet slang for gender deception), complications of minority representation as “anti-Christian” or “trans propaganda,” and a nostalgic look at previous scandals (such as Ricky Martin's coming-out).

Quotes:

“Bad Bunny, he… does some sort of, like, reggaeton music, I think… He’s been so completely obnoxious and odious and divisive to America and to American culture…”
— Jack Posobiec [14:14]

“When someone would come out, like Ricky Martin, it would actually be a huge deal… Now, everyone comes out, and it’s just, ‘Oh yeah, all celebrities, you have to be in the Alphabet Club.’”
— Jack Posobiec [09:52]

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3. Inside Baseball: How Turning Point Makes Cultural “Moves”

[16:04–23:06]

• Tyler Boyer describes how TPUSA is organizationally “democratic”—good ideas go viral and are actioned quickly; staff enthusiasm and grassroots input drive decision-making on new projects (like the halftime show).
• America Fest’s branding is highlighted as a model of successfully creating organic conservative cultural spaces.

Quotes:

"When new things come onto the scene at Turning Point, it’s really democratic how the process works."
— Tyler Boyer [21:37]

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4. Katie Porter Roast & “Potato” Meme

[30:11–41:14]

• Lead story: Blake Neff’s on-air apology for previously calling California gubernatorial candidate Katie Porter “a potato.”
• Panel launches into a mock-serious segment, further disparaging Porter's disposition and looks, suggesting she’s even less attractive inside than out (“like a fat, wrinkly armpit”).
• They review viral clips showing Porter berating media staffers and campaign workers, and refer to both mainstream and insider reports of her being a toxic boss.
• The consensus: Porter epitomizes the archetype of failing up in Democratic politics.

Quotes:

"I want to apologize to the lovely potato... Because we are learning more and more about Katie Porter and she is just wholly undeserving to ever be mentioned in the same breath with that beautiful spud."
— Blake Neff [31:42]

"She treats her staff worse than anybody else and is more left than you could ever imagine. Even more so than Gavin Newsom."
— Michael McCoy [37:07]

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5. Hasan Piker Dog-Shocking Controversy

[56:53–73:11]

• The group reacts to leftist streamer Hasan Piker being filmed using a shock collar on his dog during a livestream, triggering online outrage.
• Debate ensues regarding the morality and cultural undertones of how people treat animals; Blake Neff provides anthropological context for American and English animal protection values, comparing them to other world cultures.
• Jack draws an analogy between Hasan shocking his dog "for ruining the shot" and Katie Porter berating staff for “getting in her shot”—an indictment of egocentrism in public figures.

Quotes:

"Hurting a dog is more revealing of your character to a lot of people than hurting a human...and Hasan does not like dogs, apparently."
— Blake Neff [58:37]

"This is the same thing as Katie Porter... She wants to put a shock collar on her staffers saying you need to get out of my shot. Same mentality."
— Jack Posobiec [73:02]

"The righteous care for the needs of their animals, but the kindest acts of the wicked are cruel."
— Proverbs 12:10, cited by Blake Neff [69:04]

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6. Banter & Bro-Culture: Shopping, Fashion, “Lord of the Rings Is Gay?”

[41:14–53:45]

• Hilarity ensues as Blake admits to shopping for clothes under the guidance of Mikey, leading to a ribbing about “bro shopping” and comparisons to the movie “Zoolander.”
• A sidebar debate breaks out regarding whether “Lord of the Rings” is “gay,” referencing both cultural memes and personal opinions about male friendships in literature. The group collectively pushes back on LGBTQ+ readings of classic Western franchises.
• Tyler Boyer facetiously attacks bubble tea (“boba”) and men drinking through straws as effeminate.

Quotes:

“No, I think bro shopping is totally… Did you share one boba? Did you have, like, one boba with multiple straws?”
— Jack Posobiec [46:16]

“Lord of the Rings is a 100% story straight male shopping journey.”
— Blake Neff [49:44]

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7. Cultural & Political Commentary

Throughout

• Extended discussion of generational shifts, identity, and cultural touchstones among the American right.
• Several references to “thought crimes,” meta-jokes about the show's willingness to transgress norms, and aspirations to do things "the mainstream won't."
• Reflections on the power of ideas: “Nothing is more powerful than an idea whose time has come.” [16:59]
• Spirited debate about the “potato people” archetype in politics, referencing HR departments and the Democratic Party’s candidate roster.

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8. Performance & Community Shoutouts

[28:14–29:52; 85:03–end]

• Hosts celebrate the show’s 100th episode, remarking on the staying power of “Thought Crime.”
• Shoutouts to Charlie Kirk, upcoming events, and the strength of the Turning Point community.
• Closing reminders to subscribe, follow hosts on social media, and, tongue-in-cheek, “go out there and commit more thought crime.”

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Notable Quotes & Clips by Timestamp

• Turning Point Halftime Announcement:
  “Turning Point should just hold a halftime show...They should get Creed.” — Jack Posobiec [14:14–16:04]
• Bad Bunny’s Political Posturing:
  “‘If you didn’t understand that [in Spanish], you have four months to learn Spanish.’” — Recap of Bad Bunny’s SNL monologue [14:14]
• Katie Porter Putdowns:
  “She looks like a fat, wrinkly armpit.” — Tyler Boyer [34:16]
• Hasan Dog Incident:
  “It’s the same mentality. ‘You’re ruining my shot…’” — Jack Posobiec [73:02]
• Culture War on “Gay” Media:
  “Lord of the Rings is not gay…it’s just not gay.” — Jack Posobiec [49:20]

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• 02:07 – Turning Point’s All-American Halftime Show origins
• 06:35 – Bad Bunny & “Big Game” controversy
• 16:04 – Inside the decision-making at Turning Point
• 30:11 – Katie Porter “potato” apology and staff mistreatment stories
• 56:53 – Hasan Piker and the dog shock collar debate
• 41:14 & 46:16 – Bro-shopping & Lord of the Rings “is it gay?” banter

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Episode Tone

Casual, irreverent, sometimes crude, deeply insider, and saturated with in-group conservative humor. The episode blends serious commentary with performative mockery, memes, and rapid-fire banter. The tone is playful but also cutting in its attacks on ideological opponents and media/culture figures.

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Takeaway

This episode delivers a snapshot of what right-wing, internet-native, Gen X/millennial conservative commentary sounds like as it grapples with both deep political divides and the micro-trends of internet culture. The “Thought Crime” crew celebrates their emergent brand of cultural agitation, blending jokes, boisterousness, and movement-building—always with an eye toward how “real” America should react to the state of mainstream culture and politics.

Closing:
“Go out there and commit more thought crime.” — Jack Posobiec [87:32]

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For more info on the “All-American Halftime Show,” visit:
AmericanHalftimeShow.com

Transcript

[Blake Neff]

From the age of Big Brother.

[Jack Posobiec]

If they want to get you, they'll get you.

[Tyler Boyer]

DNSA specifically targets the communications of everyone.

[Jack Posobiec]

They're collecting your communications. Ladies and gentlemen, it is once again time for Thought Crime Thursday. I am Jack Posobic. As you know, my co host, Charlie Kirk is out on assignment with God. But we've had a huge week here, an incredible week. We've got a lot of the crew in studio. I'm in D.C. right now. And to thank CPI, by the way, for allowing me to use their incredible studio here. But we've got the rest of the gang back in Phoenix right now, and I believe we've got. Let's see. Blake. Neff. What's up, Blake?

[Tyler Boyer]

Oh, I'm doing great.

[Jack Posobiec]

And Tyler Boyer is going to be joining us in just a few minutes. He's wrapping up something. But for the very first time on Thought crime, we have Mr. Michael McCoy. What's up, man?

[Michael McCoy]

It's my debut on Thought Crime. I'm so honored. Thank you for having me, guys.

[Jack Posobiec]

All right, now, do you feel good about it? Does it feel weird? Is it different? It's very different.

[Tyler Boyer]

It does.

[Michael McCoy]

The red is really. You have to get used to it, you know?

[Jack Posobiec]

No, no. Yeah, it's. It's. It's very ominous. It's. It's like this is the. This is the show where we get in trouble on purpose.

[Michael McCoy]

I love it. We have the great Tyler Boyer.

[Blake Neff]

Tyler's here.

[Michael McCoy]

Yeah.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, there he is. Tyler will make his marks, don't worry. What's up, Tyler?

[Tyler Boyer]

How are we doing? He's saying.

[Blake Neff]

He's saying, how are we doing, Tyler?

[Tyler Boyer]

How are you doing? It's. It's raining. How are you doing?

[Blake Neff]

Yeah, it's like a typhoon. Here I am once again. I would like to. Once again to emphasize that I was told Phoenix was in a desert, and this is a complete lie. A couple weeks ago, we got hit by that typhoon. It rained like 8 inches in one day or something.

[Tyler Boyer]

I didn't have to do irrigation that.

[Jack Posobiec]

Day for eight hours.

[Tyler Boyer]

I didn't have to do irrigation. It was incredible.

[Michael McCoy]

Yeah.

[Blake Neff]

Like, I feel like it's not. You're not in a desert if it rains enough that your airport has to shut down due to how intense the rain is.

[Michael McCoy]

I think this is the most amount of rain, though, we've gotten in like 20 something years.

[Tyler Boyer]

Where is Jack right now?

[Michael McCoy]

CPI studio.

[Jack Posobiec]

DCI Studios in D.C. huge shout out to CPI, by the way, for. So I just got done speaking at their off the record. Even though it Wasn't on the record, off the record, and spent a lot of time with Chris Bedford. And, you know, we had a great discussion, really talking about Charlie a lot and kind of what this means, you know, going forward, what turning point's up to.

[Michael McCoy]

And.

[Jack Posobiec]

And I said, look, you know, it's Thursday, so we do the. We do the thought crime. And they said, hey, we've got a great studio. Why don't you go over and use it? And I said, gosh, I'd be honored. So here we are in this. Great. And you know, it's interesting because that gets us to our first topic that a lot of people are asking about. There's so many emails about this. Gosh, I can't even imagine who would come up with such a crazy idea as this. Probably just some, you know, no good nick. Ne' er do. Well, is this true? Can you guys confirm this? Turning Point USA is hosting an all American halftime show.

[Michael McCoy]

This is true. We announced it. I actually, we talked about this earlier on the show, but within, like, hour of posting it. Corey Asbury and for Frank, people were so confused. They're like, is this the Corey Asbury one?

[Tyler Boyer]

Is this the fourth one?

[Michael McCoy]

And so Corey was a little confused. He posted on his story about it. He commented on ours. But then Corey was kind enough to reach out. I jumped on a call with him this morning for like 30 minutes. And we built the bridge.

[Tyler Boyer]

Worked out.

[Michael McCoy]

Yeah, we're going to partner on this one. And allegedly, maybe more to come.

[Tyler Boyer]

Maybe it's not announced.

[Jack Posobiec]

Tva.

[Michael McCoy]

Yeah, tbd. We'll see.

[Blake Neff]

What I love about all of this is that we have to obscure what it's the halftime of, because a popular American sports league is extremely territorial about the name of a certain sporting event. Pay attention to this when the sporting event comes around next February. Like, look at ads and like, deals that supermarkets and restaurants are putting on because they won't mention the sporting event. They'll always just call it the big game.

[Tyler Boyer]

Yeah.

[Blake Neff]

And then this, you know, major American sports.

[Jack Posobiec]

I know what you're talking about.

[Blake Neff]

And this major American sports entity got so peeved about that they tried to also trademark the phrase the big game.

[Michael McCoy]

Wait, what?

[Blake Neff]

Yes.

[Tyler Boyer]

That's how lame they are.

[Blake Neff]

Yes, that is like how mega lame they are.

[Tyler Boyer]

Why wouldn't you want people talking about your incredible product that you made that's incredible sporting event? It's just like, they're like, no, we don't want people talking about our product.

[Michael McCoy]

I think we start calling Amfest the big event.

[Tyler Boyer]

No, we want people Talking about Amfest. We're never going to do that to people say. Except when people. The only issue I have is when people call it Amerifest.

[Michael McCoy]

I do. That drives me.

[Blake Neff]

I do that a lot.

[Tyler Boyer]

No, I'm like. I always correct you. I'm like. You mean America Fest America? Okay. Yeah.

[Blake Neff]

Why is Amerifest not acceptable?

[Tyler Boyer]

Because that's a really. That's. That's like a really boomer.

[Michael McCoy]

I'm with Tyler. I'm with Tyler.

[Jack Posobiec]

You know. Awful.

[Tyler Boyer]

What?

[Jack Posobiec]

There's no such thing as America. Because it sounds like Americare or like.

[Blake Neff]

Yeah, it sounds like.

[Tyler Boyer]

Yeah, it sounds like an insurance company.

[Michael McCoy]

Or like an auto insurance company.

[Tyler Boyer]

100%.

[Michael McCoy]

Yeah.

[Tyler Boyer]

Anyways, back. Back to the big game. The big game. So. So, Maggie, we should just start calling maggable just to, like.

[Jack Posobiec]

So, like, I. I started this on Twitter, like, kind of going rogue. And then we had Tim Pool last week on the main show, and then we were talking about it, and. And it just went like crazy.

[Tyler Boyer]

I've.

[Jack Posobiec]

When I see virality. And this is because, by the way, I was just. We're just. We have to say it because this is being done in response, and. And so. So, you know, I've never seen virality like this. I've never seen a response like this from anything. And. Well, Blake, you know, I know we've talked about a few times, but the. The sporting event has announced that their halftime show. And this is. By the way, this is why it opened up. This is why, like, when you're. When you're running a movement like. Like we have in. In America today, like the maga movement, whatever you want to call it, that you're always sort of reacting to what is going on in the culture and in the mainstream.

[Tyler Boyer]

And.

[Jack Posobiec]

Blake, could you walk us through the. The sad, sad saga of Bad Bunny?

[Blake Neff]

Oh, man.

[Michael McCoy]

The bad.

[Blake Neff]

Well, actually, I can't really, because I've barely heard of Bad Bunny. I. So I had never heard just in.

[Jack Posobiec]

The last few weeks what it. What, you know, I guess.

[Blake Neff]

So the.

[Jack Posobiec]

The.

[Blake Neff]

The bunny who is bad, despite the name, he is not actually a rabbit or a hare of any kind. He is a person. He's a person from Puerto Rico. He does some form of music that I am told is popular with certain people, and I. Oh, man, that's. That's really garish. Okay. Anyway, he does. He does some sort of, like, reggae ton music, I think.

[Jack Posobiec]

Welcome to Thought Crime. Michael.

[Michael McCoy]

Yeah, guys, I'm uncomfortable.

[Blake Neff]

Yeah. And so he does this sort of music. It's all in Spanish. It's all in Spanish. They've booked him for the super bowl halftime. Because Jay Z. Oh, sorry, the big game halftime. Jay Z has, like, sole control over the super bowl halftime.

[Tyler Boyer]

Wait, can you not even talk about the Super Bowl?

[Blake Neff]

If you say it three times in too narrow of a period, Roger Goodell appears behind you and stabs you in the mirror.

[Jack Posobiec]

No, we. It's just that we can't. Okay. We can't say that our halftime show is a sporting event halftime show. It has. No, it is. It is not part of the sporting event that is also going on at the same time. Ours is the turning point halftime show. The turning point all American halftime show. Theirs is the super bowl halftime show. That's what we're talking about.

[Blake Neff]

Yeah, that's fair.

[Jack Posobiec]

That's fair.

[Blake Neff]

Anyway, so the super bowl halftime show. So Bad Bunny, he. He only performs in Spanish, and he's also this deranged lib. He's been boycotting America because he doesn't. He says that ICE would, like, disrupt his concerts. It is apparent. It appears quite plausible, if not likely, that he will deliver some sort of political screed at the physically large game.

[Michael McCoy]

And the big event.

[Tyler Boyer]

Do you guys remember how, like, controversial Ricky Martin was in the Hispanic community?

[Michael McCoy]

No.

[Tyler Boyer]

Overall gay stuff.

[Michael McCoy]

No.

[Tyler Boyer]

Do you remember this now?

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, I remember this.

[Blake Neff]

Do you remember, like, old to know this?

[Tyler Boyer]

Yeah, yeah, kind of.

[Jack Posobiec]

But that means I are old.

[Tyler Boyer]

I. I was thinking about this today. I was like, remember how, like, up in arms, everybody was about gay Ricky Martin? Because everyone's like, oh, my gosh, Ricky Martin's gay. And, like, look how far we've come. The, like. Like, yeah, like, Hispanic culture has slid where it's like, Bad Bunny is even, like, a lot of Hispanic. Look, I. I've grown up around a ton of Hispanics. I'm not Hispanic myself, but I grew up in Arizona. The state has been, like, founded on this convergence of, like, you know, Hispanic culture, Native American culture, you know, a pioneer culture. And you have, like, the, like, most wretched, violent, anti Christian. Like, this isn't. This is, like, trans propaganda that's being promoted by Bad Bunny. And it's. It's nowhere near cool. And, like, I'm just thinking back to, like, remember how, like, like, crazy people went over the Ricky Martin stuff. I don't know if you remember any of this at all, Jack, but, like.

[Jack Posobiec]

No, I do, because, like, we. Because, Tyler, you and I, as, like, the, you know, the, like, the centennials, the Gen Y, elder millennials, whatever you call it, that, like, we remember the world as it was in the before time. So, like, this sort of stuff wasn't normalized. So when someone would come out and they'd be like, oh, my gosh, you know, it would actually be a huge deal. Whereas today, you know, like, everyone comes up, they're like, I'm bi, I'm queer, I'm trans, I'm this, I'm that. And it's like, oh, yeah, yeah, we know. Like, that's just like, all celebrities. Like, you're not even allowed to be a celebrity if you're not one of the Alphabet Club members anymore, which is like. And it's just so completely force memed down everybody's throat that people are like, they don't even care. But it wasn't even that long ago where, like, Ricky Martin coming out was a huge, huge deal.

[Tyler Boyer]

Yeah.

[Michael McCoy]

Yeah. I just had to Google, this is Bad Bunny gay? And Google's telling me, no.

[Tyler Boyer]

How do you.

[Michael McCoy]

I don't think you can dress like that.

[Tyler Boyer]

I don't. I don't know. I don't know if he's gay or not. But the point is he's, like, promoting.

[Blake Neff]

I believe he's considered an ally.

[Michael McCoy]

He. Okay, he's dressed as a trans person on the music video.

[Blake Neff]

This is what the Gay Times, which is a public, had an article yesterday, five times. He's the ultimate LGBTQ + ally. So I think that's a safe tell that he's not actually.

[Jack Posobiec]

So he's actually all of them. So Bad Bunny is actually LGBTQ and plus.

[Tyler Boyer]

Yeah, Well, I mean, you're definitely. He's definitely covering the queue part. He's definitely covering the queue. I'm not sure, like, walking back, he's promoting trans. We're not sure if he's LG or B. Right. Yeah, but it's probably. I mean, probably. It's probable. It's like, it's. It's definitely being promoted.

[Michael McCoy]

I had a. We had a meeting, a marketing meeting. Marina was like, didn't you hear the news? And I was like, what? She goes, selena Gomez and Bad Bunny got married. I was like, no, I think that was Benny Blanco. She's like, no, no, no. It was definitely. It was definitely Bad Bunny. And so we had to pull up the picture and.

[Tyler Boyer]

And see.

[Michael McCoy]

What do you guys think? Which one looks more alike? Do you think they look alike? Bad Bunny and Benny Blanco?

[Tyler Boyer]

I mean, I can understand how you would mess that up, though.

[Jack Posobiec]

I can get that one. The names are kind of, you know.

[Blake Neff]

As a side note, is it weird to anyone Else that he is. He performs exclusively in Spanish, but his name is Bad Bunny. An English term that. That's throwing me off in an annoying way.

[Tyler Boyer]

Well, nobody talked about this today, but I think it's, you know, we. Pitbull was like one of the only rappers obviously Hispanic, does a lot of Spanish, was one of the only guys that came out for Trump big time in 2020. He kind of chilled out in 2024. I didn't really see him out a whole bunch talking about Trump. But yeah, maybe we should hit up Pitbull. He, he, he did some stuff with Anna Paulina.

[Blake Neff]

He is apparently considered the king of Latin Trap, which I can definitely see how Trapp got involved with his identity based on those clips.

[Tyler Boyer]

I don't understand how trapped. How Trap became so trans like and.

[Jack Posobiec]

Like weird in Spanish. I looked it up in Spanish. Bad Bunny would be. I don't know if I'm saying this right.

[Michael McCoy]

Conjito malo, Conojito malo or conejo malo.

[Blake Neff]

Is that actually like Bunny or is it rabbit or hare or something?

[Jack Posobiec]

It's bunny.

[Blake Neff]

Okay, I real quick, I do want to hit this because thank you for the donation message. We hear we have gas station Sushi 26 asked how would Charlie have felt about a Maori haka tribute done for him in London. I have not seen that. Now I want to watch it because that sounds nifty. I feel. Actually I do wonder about that because started off as like a religious pagan thing but I think now they do it at Christian gatherings in New Zealand among Mori. So he'd probably be okay with that as long as it was sufficiently Christianized.

[Michael McCoy]

Was great. I saw that video and also he'd.

[Blake Neff]

Probably think it was cool cuz it's like people screaming for him and it's way better than all those horrible hakas they've had where it's like liberal women screaming a haka while they like rip Harry Potter books in half or something. There's been some strange appropriations of that.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, well, while we pull the video up, I want to go through because so Bad Bunny, not only does he get announced this way in, in. In a sense where like he's just not popular in the English speaking world and or you know, I have to say it, he's like the English speaking part of America because it's sort of part of the bifurcation of America where he's extremely popular in Hispanic circles and yet English speakers just don't know him, Just not familiar with him. And then he goes on Saturday Night Live and Does this monologue that goes viral where he starts speaking in Spanish and. And saying how this is. This is for you. This isn't for the English speakers. This is what it's all about. And then he switches back to English and says, oh, and by the way, you know, for. If you didn't understand that, you have four months to learn Spanish. And then TMZ had this article about him. That or video basically, where he gets captured. I think it was at the Yankees game. They're in the playoffs right now. And he was filmed during God Bless America. And everyone around him is standing up and he just stands. He just stays sitting down. So this guy, and I don't want to go too deep into Bad Bunny, but he's been so completely obnoxious and odious and divisive to America and to American culture. That and Jay Z, of course, who runs through Roc Nation. The selection process. It got to the point where I said, you know what? Turning Point should just hold off halftime show. Just Turning Point should do a show. And at the time, I said, they should get Creed. And, you know, no. No announcements on. On musical acts yet. Was so obnoxious that I just had to say it. So. So you guys are there. I haven't been in Phoenix this week. Walk me through. How did this actually come about?

[Michael McCoy]

Yeah, I also. Today on the show, Andrew gave you huge props. Jack. He said this. I just want to point out this idea originally came from Jack. So Jack.

[Blake Neff]

Jack, actually, we are getting endless emails about who the musical act should be. Like, We've gotten like 10 in the last 10 minutes, basically.

[Tyler Boyer]

Jack. Jack joined the ranks of people making suggestions of what Turning Point should do. Yeah. Did it. It went viral. Because everything goes viral about every suggestion that's good right now. And now we're forced to do it. It's like literally. This is like literally prison at Turning Point.

[Blake Neff]

What's that thing?

[Tyler Boyer]

Every time someone comes in with a good idea and it's like Jack and Andrew on the show every day, come up with things. Benny. Like, everybody's, like, saying stuff and then, like, we're forced to do it. The white shirts are picking up my phone. What?

[Michael McCoy]

The white shirts at the football game.

[Tyler Boyer]

What is that?

[Blake Neff]

What is that? That's.

[Tyler Boyer]

Yeah, yeah.

[Blake Neff]

There's this line that girls like a lot that they'll say, nothing is more powerful than an idea whose time has come. And I guess, right, that perfectly. Nothing is more powerful than an idea.

[Tyler Boyer]

Whose time is come.

[Blake Neff]

Tyler, wait. Can I.

[Tyler Boyer]

Can I point something out real quickly? I just realized This, I guess the term trap also refers to someone. You can't determine there.

[Blake Neff]

You're just learning this now.

[Tyler Boyer]

I don't know. I'm like, I played the role of Charlie.

[Blake Neff]

You go to a trap party.

[Tyler Boyer]

I'm playing the role of Charlie.

[Jack Posobiec]

You don't know what traps are?

[Tyler Boyer]

No. I mean, yeah, I kind of, like, maybe hearing it, like, in context, like.

[Michael McCoy]

I still have no idea what you guys are talking about.

[Blake Neff]

It's. Are you guys just becoming our, like.

[Tyler Boyer]

I'm gonna be like Charlie Kirk. I might be like, Charlie.

[Blake Neff]

Yeah, yeah, you're our Charlie now. You're our Charlie now.

[Tyler Boyer]

Is that where the term trap music comes from?

[Blake Neff]

I don't think so. No.

[Tyler Boyer]

They're not related. Right.

[Jack Posobiec]

So it's not the same thing.

[Tyler Boyer]

Wait, wait. So that. Isn't that, like, really weird that, that the person whose gender we can't.

[Blake Neff]

That's what, that's the joke I made earlier.

[Jack Posobiec]

Oh, yeah.

[Blake Neff]

I was like, oh, I. King of Latin trap. And I understood why he was double that.

[Tyler Boyer]

Double on top. Yeah, got it.

[Blake Neff]

It comes from trap. It comes from trap house, which is a house that sells drugs.

[Michael McCoy]

Yeah.

[Jack Posobiec]

So. So that's totally different, but, like, trap, right? A trap means, like, you, you go out with this, like, like you're. Let's say you're in Thailand, which I've never been to, for the record, but let's say, for instance, you're in Thailand, you go out with some girl, she's real cute. You get home, she goes, I've got a secret.

[Blake Neff]

Okay, all right, all right. We've gone. We've gone. We just need a letter.

[Jack Posobiec]

However, this has given rise to the great Internet question. Are traps gay?

[Blake Neff]

Yes.

[Tyler Boyer]

That's. That's where we started.

[Michael McCoy]

I like Thakro.

[Blake Neff]

100%. 100%.

[Michael McCoy]

I, I like this show. Yeah.

[Tyler Boyer]

This show always does.

[Michael McCoy]

Well, this is great.

[Tyler Boyer]

Every week, this show. This show.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah.

[Tyler Boyer]

Hits, hits, numbers like we've never seen before because we educate each other.

[Blake Neff]

Odd.

[Tyler Boyer]

All these words, these, these terminologies that nobody has ever, ever really heard of, really understands, really gets into.

[Blake Neff]

I'm. I'm just picturing.

[Jack Posobiec]

By the way, the answer is. The answer to the question, of course, is yes, but they're only gay from the moment you find out.

[Michael McCoy]

Yeah, I, I, I don't like.

[Tyler Boyer]

Listen, listen, I, I question people who, you know, you know, this is why everyone should question old men who go on vacation to Thailand, and everyone should be questioning anyone. That's like, I do.

[Blake Neff]

I'm enjoying, I'm enjoying that we have. I'M really enjoying that we have live chat because Mike's wife, that's the name of the account, has commented. Please explain Trap. And now is going, I don't even know what this. Yikes.

[Michael McCoy]

Mike, I don't even know what trap. I'm equally as confused as you. Yeah.

[Jack Posobiec]

Wait, is that, Is that actually Mike's wife?

[Blake Neff]

I have no idea. Their username is Mike's wife, us. And Mikey has a wife that lives.

[Michael McCoy]

In the U.S. elizabeth, is this you?

[Jack Posobiec]

Is that actually Elizabeth?

[Blake Neff]

It'd be pretty funny. It'd be pretty funny if it was.

[Michael McCoy]

Elizabeth said, no, it's not.

[Jack Posobiec]

People are saying, I really didn't know that. Trap is another.

[Blake Neff]

Yeah. I want to apologize. I would have, I should have never imagined that your wife would be unfamiliar with that important piece of Internet.

[Michael McCoy]

Kidding me?

[Blake Neff]

Yeah, she's. She's a smart woman.

[Michael McCoy]

She said she knows what it is.

[Blake Neff]

That's good.

[Michael McCoy]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, educated woman.

[Jack Posobiec]

I mean, but then, so, okay, so, but, but, but. That being said. All right, so, Tyler, so, so the, the thought process. So I get it. So it goes viral. Everybody wants it. But, but at some point, you know, the decision had to be made. So, you know, I've seen, you know, and Andrew, by the way, who's. Who is not gracing us with his presence, who is totally slacking on thought crime and will be made to answer for this next week, by the way, isn't here to share it with us. So, so you guys got to give me a scoop. What was it kinda that kind of like pushed the, you know, pushed it into the yes column?

[Tyler Boyer]

Well, I, I did my job. So as soon as this went viral, I was peppering everybody else and saying, I think we should do it, I think we should do it, I think we should do it. So I think, I don't think it was any single person, but I think everybody together was, like, looking into it and, and, you know, God bless all of the staff at Turning Point, usa, Mikey, Justin, all the events team. Like, nobody really shot it down. See, this is the thing. When new things come onto the scene at Turning Point, it's really democratic how the process works if everybody kind of agrees on stuff. And this isn't new. Right.

[Michael McCoy]

This has always been the Charlie method.

[Tyler Boyer]

Obviously Charlie, you know, would kind of just like go around and be like, we're going to do this, we're going to do this, we're going to do this, we're going to do this to every single person. And then he would kind of seed it and then like, we'd be like, all right, let's vote on it, basically. And we'd bring it to the chat, and then everyone would be like, oh, yeah.

[Blake Neff]

And we should give credit also to, you know, the. The supporters out there. We have our freedom at Charlie Kirk email with the show.

[Tyler Boyer]

Oh, yeah. 90 million.

[Blake Neff]

I think literally 50% of our emails at any time are just about this. We're getting them throughout the night, throughout the show. We getting them right now. I. We just got one in this, like, past minute. And it. What's amazing about it is it's from someone who seems. They say, how about an alternative halftime show?

[Tyler Boyer]

That's right.

[Blake Neff]

And I think they're. They actually don't know yet that we've done it already.

[Tyler Boyer]

That's right.

[Blake Neff]

But there's just. Lots of people love the idea.

[Michael McCoy]

And.

[Jack Posobiec]

And that's.

[Tyler Boyer]

And that's also the point, too, is, like, you've got to get it out there and, like, keep saying it over and over, because ultimately, you know, that's the thing that people don't realize is marketing any event that Turning Point's ever done, like, we've built a really nice brand with America Fest, but it's like, that started. People don't realize that started as a party at cpac, and we took that and we ran with it, and then we. I was like, we need to turn into a brand. And then we created a whole brand. But still, like, a vast majority of people don't know that America Fest exists. And once they figure it out and then they figure out how to get to it, all that stuff. So it's not easy to build a brand and an idea and a party or a. An event, and then make sure everyone knows, because ultimately the event happens, and then people miss it and they go, oh, I wish I would have watched it.

[Blake Neff]

And unlike a certain major professional sports league, we are never going to make it. So it's illegal or, like, you'll get sued. If you refer to America Fest, it will never have to have people refer to the big event. The big con.

[Tyler Boyer]

The Hedro event.

[Michael McCoy]

The good news is we are announcing our first singer. We are Blake Neff.

[Blake Neff]

What?

[Michael McCoy]

Never surrender.

[Blake Neff]

I am headlining.

[Jack Posobiec]

Wait, I thought we weren't announcing that yet.

[Michael McCoy]

Dude, did I let that. Did I let the cat out of the bag?

[Blake Neff]

Oh, dear.

[Jack Posobiec]

That'll.

[Blake Neff]

That'll shut down the event pretty fast.

[Michael McCoy]

Can you give us a little teaser, Blake?

[Tyler Boyer]

Really?

[Blake Neff]

Are you gonna make me do this?

[Michael McCoy]

Come on. The audience.

[Blake Neff]

Does the audience actually want it? I need to see what the. I need to see what the actual masses say. No, they're yelling. No.

[Jack Posobiec]

Blake Neff will be singing I Will Survive.

[Blake Neff]

No, no, I'm definitely not going to sing that Jackson.

[Tyler Boyer]

People.

[Jack Posobiec]

People don't realize that that Blake is actually a six time regional karaoke winner. I Will Survive is one of his go to as well as several. Hold on, hold on.

[Blake Neff]

I'm not going to sing I Will Survive, but I will Saxon. I'm always a fan of the 80s heavy metal band Saxon from the Never Surrender 2000. Surrender.

[Michael McCoy]

When you're up against the the wall.

[Blake Neff]

Now I surrender.

[Michael McCoy]

Stand up, fight them all.

[Jack Posobiec]

Go look it up.

[Michael McCoy]

All right, I just got this.

[Tyler Boyer]

This reminds me of.

[Jack Posobiec]

Just sold 100 tickets right there. We just sold 100 tickets. That's great.

[Blake Neff]

Yeah, 100 tickets. 100 tickets. So people can like line up now.

[Jack Posobiec]

Get your tickets now. This is going to sell out real fast, folks.

[Tyler Boyer]

I don't know why. You just reminded me of Mike White.

[Michael McCoy]

Yes.

[Tyler Boyer]

No, you remind me of Mike White and you know, it's buddies with Jack Black and all the stuff.

[Jack Posobiec]

Oh dear.

[Blake Neff]

Oh, man.

[Tyler Boyer]

Not. Not conservative.

[Blake Neff]

Oh yeah. That was, that was a. So this isn't thought crime. This is like voice crime now. There's a lot of crimes going on.

[Tyler Boyer]

No, it's karaoke crime.

[Blake Neff]

Karaoke, definitely. That definitely.

[Tyler Boyer]

We've had a couple of good ideas on thought crime. One is that we should bring all our moms on to take our place and let them do this for one. Remember we talked about that.

[Blake Neff]

I don't, but I I Supporters day special.

[Tyler Boyer]

Then we talked about that with Jack that all our moms would come on and instead of it being us, like they would just like all time.

[Blake Neff]

I'm almost sad.

[Tyler Boyer]

It's a great idea. The second should be karaoke crime. We do nothing but karaoke.

[Jack Posobiec]

That would cry.

[Blake Neff]

Yeah, this is, this is like when we occasionally getting like weirder and weirder. This is gonna end with me having to like do a 24 hour twitch stream where I play Age of Empires or something.

[Tyler Boyer]

No, time out, Charlie. One of Charlie's ideas was to do a 24 hour live stream.

[Michael McCoy]

We have. I know what you're talking about.

[Jack Posobiec]

No, I remember we talked about. We were gonna do. We were gonna do ships and we were gonna have like cots set up and like people could sleep and then come back and we were gonna do.

[Tyler Boyer]

A live stream for 24 hours.

[Blake Neff]

Well, I was gonna do my. The gimmick. The gimmick I was ready for was during the election. I was gonna stay live until it was Called, but then we kicked some so much, but it was over by midnight.

[Michael McCoy]

Put up a lot of competition. Yeah. Tyler, does this classify as one of those really good ideas that comes to fruition?

[Tyler Boyer]

What. What's that?

[Michael McCoy]

The 24 hour stream. I think we need to make it happen.

[Tyler Boyer]

So. So the background on this that nobody knows or we haven't talked about in a long time was we did so well on the live stream after 2020.

[Michael McCoy]

Yeah.

[Tyler Boyer]

That I think it was 2020 that Charlie. Or it was. Well, everything was up in the air. Remember we were. We were going live like every day for like two weeks or three weeks or. And Charlie was like, we need to do a 24 hour live stream. We'll just bring everybody on, like all of our friends and we'll just go, go, go, go, go. Like 24 straight hours. So, yeah, I think we should do it.

[Michael McCoy]

We'll make a graphic. We'll put it out there. Announce a date. Yeah.

[Blake Neff]

Stuff to make it interesting.

[Michael McCoy]

The graphic team is on it.

[Tyler Boyer]

For the 2026 election night, we're going to do 24 hours of pure live streaming starting at like noon the day before to the noon the day that.

[Michael McCoy]

I love this.

[Tyler Boyer]

I love it. Should we get to. Should we talk? Katie Porter.

[Michael McCoy]

Katie Portato.

[Blake Neff]

Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

[Jack Posobiec]

Guys, before we get into this. Before we get into this. Actually, before we get into this at all. Can. Can you guys play. This is not on this. On the. On the clip sheet or excuse me, on the. On the topic list. Can you guys play clip 100? This is the unit that's the University of North Dakota right now. Blake Neff, son of the Dakotas. That's from the tour tonight. I mean, that's 3.

[Blake Neff]

That's like balcony. That is like 70 of the population of North Dakota. I think probably I have some relatives in there.

[Jack Posobiec]

Dude, that's probably every single person is holding a Charlie Kirk.

[Blake Neff]

By the way. If you want to. If you want a thought crime right now. I'll shout out anyone watching from North Dakota. It is the fighting Sioux forever. None of this fighting Hawks nonsense. It is always the fighting sue forever.

[Michael McCoy]

And ever regional territorial battles.

[Jack Posobiec]

Now that's. Look, I just got to say it's. It's been amazing to see there. I don't know the exact numbers yet, but that several thousand people. There's no question we had what it was, you know, 4,500 people in Montana State two nights ago. These numbers. I mean, Mikey, you've been. You've been out there. Have the tourists Seen numbers like this before.

[Michael McCoy]

Yeah, we. We have, but not consistently in evening events like this. And so Charlie would, towards the end, really love doing the Prove me Wrong. So we. Last semester we did like 28 of them. This semester we were supposed to do 30 plus. And so but we kept all the evening stops. And these are the biggest venues because Charlie is pushing the team just hard, non stop. Get the arenas, get the massive venues, get the amphitheaters. So we did. We got them all. And so now what we're seeing is Charlie's not there, but all of these students are still showing up to support his legacy and his mission. And the speakers are there. You're hearing every night. Last night you heard in Montana or two nights ago. That was Montana State. Charlie. Charlie. Tonight, North Dakota. And we have some really big ones coming up. We're talking 10,000, 9,000 arenas with some really big guests. Soon it will be announced, but very exciting.

[Tyler Boyer]

Yeah, we're gonna.

[Jack Posobiec]

That's huge. By the way, I'm remiss for saying this is episode 100. This is actually episode 100. Wow. Of thought crime.

[Michael McCoy]

So was I graced enough to come on?

[Blake Neff]

I think it actually might be 101 because I think we doubled an episode.

[Jack Posobiec]

Episode 100.

[Michael McCoy]

For my sake, call it a hundred.

[Tyler Boyer]

Oh, that's. That's pretty incredible. 100 episodes.

[Blake Neff]

A lot. 100 weeks.

[Tyler Boyer]

Hundreds is two years.

[Jack Posobiec]

So that's almost two years. Yeah. Be 54 weeks.

[Blake Neff]

I don't think we did. We started.

[Jack Posobiec]

We missed a few.

[Blake Neff]

We missed some weeks here and there.

[Jack Posobiec]

And, you know, different.

[Blake Neff]

Some were not numbered episodes, I believe, because they were specialties or some such.

[Tyler Boyer]

That's kind of crazy. We've been doing this for two plus years. Wow, that's crazy. In honor of charity.

[Jack Posobiec]

It's really crazy because we. I think when we first started this, we were like, we're never ever going to do this. And you know, I didn't like every week we're going to get canceled. And then. And then the show started giving us. Started giving us more problems externally than it did, you know, but. But we kept doing it. We kept doing it, pushing through for everything. So the thought crimes will continue. And as such, there was someone who committed a bit of a thought crime earlier today, or I believe earlier this week, and Blake Neff. Blake Neff is now prepared to make his very first public apology. Blake, the floor is yours.

[Blake Neff]

All right. Thank you, Jack. Now, we need to be very serious here for a moment. I said some words yesterday on the normal Charlie Kirk show that I Regret that I should not have said that. Were very hurtful, were ill considered by me. We got a lot of emails about this and I feel a lot of shame. I feel a lot of embarrassment. I, you know, I can't ever really fully apologize for what I did. This is only a half, half baked or if you prefer, twice baked way of doing things, but yesterday I compared California gubernatorial candidate Katie Porter to a very popular spud, the potato.

[Jack Posobiec]

And.

[Blake Neff]

I really just want to say I'm so sorrowful that I would have ever taken a great food like the potato that has given so much joy and happiness and nutrition to billions of people and compared it to this entity, Katie Porter. That was extremely hurtful. I should have never done that. And I want to apologize to the lovely potato for everything I said. It was so hurtful in. I just could not, I could not be more apologetic to all potatoes and potato lovers out there for what I did. Because we are learning more and more about Katie Porter and she is just wholly undeserving to ever be mentioned in the same breath with that beautiful spud.

[Michael McCoy]

I know. I can't believe.

[Jack Posobiec]

As a man of Polish descent, the land of Eastern Europe, the land of potatoes. I just, I want to say that, you know, I forgive you. I forgive you for what you did. I will not forget this though. And of course you must still face public, you know, public justice. The debt must be paid. Guys, I'm thinking Blake has to like cook potatoes for the entire. The entire.

[Tyler Boyer]

I'll pay it.

[Blake Neff]

I'll pay it with a freebie for you. So Jack, the next time you go to Poland, my favorite restaurant, when I went to Poland, it was in Gdansk, former Danzig, founded by some lovely Germans. But the best restaurant in Gadans is called, I believe like Pod Riba or something like that. It's like bar under the Fish. But it is a baked potato themed restaurant and it has be like.

[Jack Posobiec]

Under the fish?

[Blake Neff]

Yeah, under the Fish. And it's the greatest. It's like the greatest potato, baked potato restaurant I've ever been to in my life. So that's your potato related means of atonement.

[Tyler Boyer]

So I'm actually, I'm actually going to give you a much worse visual on Katie Porter and what she looks like. Katie Porter and, and Jack will be able to appreciate this since you, you evoke the Eastern Europe. In Russia and Eastern Europe, babushkas walk around all day long with like sleeveless shirts. In the summer, it's this most disgusting thing and they raise their arms up and there's this Fat, wrinkly, just like disgusting pale skin that just looks so gross of like wrinkly, fat armpit.

[Michael McCoy]

I know what you're talking about.

[Tyler Boyer]

Have you seen.

[Jack Posobiec]

So why was Katie Porter over in Russia?

[Tyler Boyer]

What?

[Blake Neff]

So why was.

[Tyler Boyer]

No, I'm saying, I'm saying Katie, Katie doesn't look like a potato. She looks like a fat, wrinkly armpit. I can, I could, I can post a picture.

[Jack Posobiec]

Wait, hold on, hold on. We need to, we need to, for those of you, for those who are.

[Tyler Boyer]

You know, I'm talking about fat, wrinkly. Have you ever seen like real quick.

[Blake Neff]

Before we demean her further, we need.

[Jack Posobiec]

To give some context, any context.

[Blake Neff]

So first off, this is what we were discussing yesterday. There's additional developments, but we want it for anyone who's just getting in. Now. This was an interview that Katie Porter gave I believe now two or three days ago.

[Michael McCoy]

Yeah.

[Blake Neff]

With CBS outlet in California.

[Tyler Boyer]

We have the clip.

[Blake Neff]

Clip 87.

[Jack Posobiec]

What do you say to the 40% of California voters who you'll need in order to win?

[Katie Porter (clip speaker)]

Let me be clear with you. I represented Orange County. I represented a purple area. I have stood on my own two feet and won Republican votes before. That's not something every candidate in this race can say. So you don't. I feel like this is unnecessarily argumentative. What is your question?

[Jack Posobiec]

The question is the same thing I asked everybody.

[Katie Porter (clip speaker)]

You have it written and I'll answer it.

[Jack Posobiec]

And we've also asked the other question, candidates, do you think you need any.

[Katie Porter (clip speaker)]

Of those 40% of California voters to win?

[Jack Posobiec]

And you're saying no, you don't.

[Katie Porter (clip speaker)]

No, I'm saying I'm going to try to win every vote I can. And what I'm saying to you is.

[Jack Posobiec]

That, well, to those voters.

[Blake Neff]

Okay, so, so you.

[Katie Porter (clip speaker)]

I don't want to keep doing this. I'm going to call it. Thank you.

[Jack Posobiec]

You're not going to do the interview with us?

[Katie Porter (clip speaker)]

Nope. Not like this, I'm not. Not with seven follow ups to every single question you ask.

[Tyler Boyer]

Every other candidate has answered.

[Katie Porter (clip speaker)]

I don't care.

[Blake Neff]

Now to be clear, this is the woman running for governor right now. And because I guess they just had no one else who could run in a state the size of California. But what's great about this, what makes this brilliant. That was an embarrassing clip that went viral. But what's really amazing now is we're getting. Videos are getting released by former staffers of Potato Katie and Potato Katie.

[Jack Posobiec]

Thought you just said that we weren't going to be doing that. Again, Blake.

[Blake Neff]

Okay, you're right.

[Tyler Boyer]

No, you're right. Her name is Bob Ushka. Armpit.

[Blake Neff]

Okay. All right. Okay. But anyway, they're releasing new videos of her that are like other greatest hits from the experience of working under Katie Porter. This is the one that they released. Let's play clip 134.

[Katie Porter (clip speaker)]

That we're going to lose more than half a million Californians dying prematurely to air pollution and other problems. And the state could lose for. Get out of my shot. I wanted to tell you that that's actually incorrect. It's not that it's electric vehicles. It's that if we don't meet the commitments under the Paris climate Accord. Okay, it does. Okay. You also were in my shop before that. Stay out of my shot. Okay. I'm going to start again with electric vehicles. Saving us money.

[Michael McCoy]

Get out of my shot. So I actually talked today with someone who's on the Republican side, works in politics in California State Senate. And I actually used to work in Sacramento. So I reached out to her. It's like. Tell me a little bit about Katie Porter. What do you know? She said she is the most disrespectful, hateful and nastiest as they come. She treats her staff worse than anybody else and is more left than you could ever imagine. Even more so than Gavin Newsom. And here's some something crazy. Her husband filed charges against her for throwing metal toys at her. Guess what? They don't have kids.

[Tyler Boyer]

Metal toys.

[Blake Neff]

No, they do. They do. I know that that's funny, but they do because there's all the defenses of her for why she's so nasty to her staff is that she was a single mom when she got elected to Congress because she divorced her husband. The other thing, which you know is why I made my again have to. I have to apologize to potatoes. But the reason I had potatoes on the brain is according to her ex husband, she once poured boiling mashed potatoes onto him. Wow.

[Michael McCoy]

She really is Katie Portato.

[Blake Neff]

And I think we have an even another clip. This one isn't quite as, you know, sweary as the others, but she has. She's shooting death stares at her staff because she doesn't like the lighting. Let's play clip 133.

[Katie Porter (clip speaker)]

Oh, yes. This is why I didn't want to. I need the lights off. The bright lights. I'm so sorry, but I am about to get on. Bernard, I need you to turn these off. These that are killing me. Hang on one second, everybody. Yes, yes, we should have. Yes. Okay, everybody I'm not that dark. That's too dark. Just a minute. Okay, everybody, I'm sorry about that. I am in a TV studio.

[Tyler Boyer]

That fat, wrinkly forehead. If you go back to that original first clip and look at the thing. Watch her forehead and like, all the makeup, you know, when makeup, like, cakes up on people's wrinkles. I just don't really understand.

[Blake Neff]

I don't.

[Tyler Boyer]

I just really get it. I don't understand how people fail up this aggressively. I've seen so many failing. Failing up within politics. Like, it basically is like the. It's. It's the standard. Like, you see people start at the state level and they fail. I mean, this is like, you know, Ruben Gallego.

[Michael McCoy]

Yeah.

[Tyler Boyer]

Katie Porter, like, all these. They start the state level. She is probably the primest example of, like, there is nothing of substance there. That is good. How do you, like, how does anyone in the world like this person?

[Blake Neff]

That's what's weird to me. It's like she's running for governor of California and you think, I know Democrats don't have the greatest bench, but I don't know, like, they couldn't run Rokhana for this. Like, I don't love Rokana, but I would pick Rokhanna over Katie Portato.

[Tyler Boyer]

Yeah. I. I look at Swalwell and I go, this is egregious what the Democrats are doing to themselves. Like, we have to let them keep going. But, like, it is. I mean, it is so bad. The top of their bench is fat, wrinkly, armpit, potato face. Katie.

[Blake Neff]

Really on that.

[Michael McCoy]

Katie, you do love the armpits.

[Tyler Boyer]

That's what she looks like. The next time you're out, go to. Go to Walmart. There's somebody. There's going to be some old lady walking around shirtless in Arizona or sleeveless in Arizona. Not shirtless, sleeveless. You're going to see that she's got a razor arm. You're going to be like, that's what Katie Porter's face looks like. And I'm telling you, in Swalwell, this is their.

[Jack Posobiec]

Tyler, what do you do when you're going shopping at Walmart?

[Tyler Boyer]

No, I'm saying they exist.

[Jack Posobiec]

I'm saying sitting there, I have Walmart with Tyler. He's sitting there judging you.

[Tyler Boyer]

I'm very. Yeah, you shouldn't be wearing.

[Blake Neff]

This is why I don't go to Walmart. I'll run into Tyler and he's going to like, make.

[Jack Posobiec]

Exactly.

[Tyler Boyer]

Are you walking around with sleeveless shirts with, you know, fat?

[Blake Neff]

Actually, the true Story is. The true story is I have only. I only have three outfits now because I had to, like, have Mikey help me get a better wardrobe, and I can't wear anything else now.

[Jack Posobiec]

Wait, wait, wait, wait. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Blake, did you just say that you went shopping with Mikey?

[Michael McCoy]

Yes.

[Blake Neff]

Yes, I did. That's a thought crime.

[Jack Posobiec]

I think we need. I think we need to. I think we need to dig into this a little bit.

[Michael McCoy]

Mikey's done.

[Jack Posobiec]

Blake. First time you guys went out together. Or was. Was or was. Or is this the second time?

[Michael McCoy]

No, no, no, Mike.

[Tyler Boyer]

Many times Mikey's helped out Blake a lot.

[Blake Neff]

Blake.

[Tyler Boyer]

Blake has had, like, the greatest outfits on this week. Like. Like a couple of times. Like, I've been like, hey, is that a Mikey outfit? He's like, yeah, it is.

[Blake Neff]

Well, it's not gonna be one of mine. People have seen my outfits. I wear. If left to my own devices, I will dress like a. Like a person born in North Dakota that I am. And it's gonna probably be, yeah, like, dad jeans and a dad shirt from. Or.

[Michael McCoy]

That blue Macy's blazer that.

[Blake Neff]

Charlie, the blue Macy's blazer is amazing. You will not sell the blue Macy's blazer.

[Michael McCoy]

I know. I almost want to play that clip.

[Jack Posobiec]

Of shopping with Mikey.

[Blake Neff]

We should. We should get that. We should get that.

[Michael McCoy]

I'm gonna find that clip.

[Jack Posobiec]

This is great. You went clothes shopping with Mikey. I know. I'm just. I'm just.

[Blake Neff]

I'm just.

[Jack Posobiec]

Just to be clear about this, you publicly admitting that you went clothes shopping. Like, you for the express purpose of going clothes shopping?

[Michael McCoy]

Yeah, look, okay, I had a free hour. Elizabeth was out of town, and I'm like, you know, I love Blake. I've traveled with him to the UK With Charlie. I travel. We went to Asia together. At this point, we're like, you know, best. Best.

[Jack Posobiec]

Weren't we just talking about what happens in Asia?

[Michael McCoy]

Yeah.

[Tyler Boyer]

Yeah.

[Michael McCoy]

I gotta find this clip. Oh, here. I found it. One sec. They're gonna have to load it. This might take him a second. Charlie even trilled. So Blake has this blue blazer.

[Tyler Boyer]

It's great.

[Michael McCoy]

No, and he bought. When did you buy that blazer?

[Blake Neff]

I think I bought it in 2018.

[Michael McCoy]

And he wears it everywhere. Every event, AM Fest, SASS, CLS, YWLS. And in Asia, you wore it every day in a row.

[Blake Neff]

He's sweating through. How many blazers am I supposed to bring to Asia?

[Tyler Boyer]

At least two. That was.

[Michael McCoy]

There's, like, three conferences.

[Katie Porter (clip speaker)]

I don't know.

[Michael McCoy]

We gotta play this clip when they load it.

[Jack Posobiec]

Blake, I've tweeted out that you are. You are the first singer and the first comment is from Autism Capital, who wrote, my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.

[Michael McCoy]

Okay, we got the clip.

[Blake Neff]

Brutal.

[Michael McCoy]

1:41.

[Jack Posobiec]

Mikey's struggle buster.

[Blake Neff]

He's all like, it's so hot. I can't be cool. Like the security guy. Guys who have full suits. Or Blake, who's got his ridiculous Macy's blazer.

[Jack Posobiec]

I was going to say, like, you've gotten more. You've gotten more mileage out of that.

[Blake Neff]

Blazer than anything I've ever seen in my life. It's a great blazer. People like it. Buy you a couple blazers, wear them.

[Jack Posobiec]

Because that's like your.

[Blake Neff]

That's the a. It's my favorite blazer.

[Jack Posobiec]

It's nice.

[Blake Neff]

People comment on it no matter what the occasion.

[Jack Posobiec]

Like, where's the Macy blazer?

[Blake Neff]

Heck, yeah. Yeah, I think I bought it from. It was like $50 or something at Macy's. It was great.

[Jack Posobiec]

And why were you holding a microphone?

[Blake Neff]

We were in. We were recording the events. And I'm glad we did, of course, because that was, of course, the last. The last weekend we had Charlie, of course, Providential that we had.

[Jack Posobiec]

Why would you film.

[Michael McCoy]

Because Charlie would just walk around in Asia and be like, blake, tell me about that. Tell me about that. And Blake was talking.

[Blake Neff]

Yeah, we were at Gangs of, however you say Palace In. In. In Seoul. And he'd be like, blake, tell us about this. And so tell this clip.

[Jack Posobiec]

Is this clip is in Korea or is this Japan?

[Blake Neff]

That one's in Seoul. In Korea.

[Jack Posobiec]

That's in Seoul. Okay.

[Michael McCoy]

Even you called it ridiculous. You said, this is my ridiculous Macy's blazer.

[Blake Neff]

Yeah, it's great. I love it.

[Michael McCoy]

Great.

[Tyler Boyer]

People love it.

[Blake Neff]

People. People say the blazer is great.

[Jack Posobiec]

No one.

[Blake Neff]

No one says any other blazer that I own is great, especially because I never wear one.

[Jack Posobiec]

There is that one suit that Blake wears that. It's actually quite nice.

[Michael McCoy]

I want to see this.

[Jack Posobiec]

I mean, again, no. No homo. But, like, there's. There's. There's a suit that Blake has. It's got a nice cut to it. It's. You know, he looks nice when it's on. He looks nice. I'm just. Just gonna say that now.

[Blake Neff]

I'm not.

[Jack Posobiec]

I'm. I'm totally, totally, you know, at one with myself. So I don't mind saying that. But then again, I don't go. I don't go clothes shopping with Mikey. So what did you Guys, do. Did you. Was it. Was it a good shopping trip? Did you go out afterwards? Did you get ice cream?

[Michael McCoy]

We did get boba.

[Blake Neff]

Oh, okay, Mikey, now you're digging. Now you're digging a slightly deep hole here.

[Michael McCoy]

Oh, I must. I have to dig deeper. At this point, we got Boba together.

[Tyler Boyer]

Boba. Boba. Blake.

[Blake Neff]

Okay, at this point. At this point, we need to. We need to. We should probably mention that it was not just the two of us, right?

[Michael McCoy]

No, no, we had.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yes, it was.

[Blake Neff]

Yeah. No, no, we had. We had a third person there. That makes it. That makes it more defensive.

[Tyler Boyer]

Male or female?

[Blake Neff]

It was a man.

[Tyler Boyer]

Oh, well, that doesn't make it better.

[Blake Neff]

Well, it does.

[Tyler Boyer]

I.

[Blake Neff]

Just kidding. Bros go and shop at the Scottsdale mall all the time.

[Michael McCoy]

All the time. That's a thing?

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah.

[Tyler Boyer]

I don't know. You know what? That reminds me. That reminds me the opening scene of.

[Jack Posobiec]

I don't think bro shopping is a Thing, guys. I. I don't think it is a thing.

[Michael McCoy]

We're going to take a camera next time we go bro shopping and we're going to prove you guys wrong.

[Tyler Boyer]

That reminds me of the opening scene. Zoolander. Of all the male models all shopping together.

[Michael McCoy]

We're going to vlog our bro shopping.

[Tyler Boyer]

You're talking about.

[Blake Neff]

I've never seen Zoolander, but I still.

[Tyler Boyer]

It's all. They're all dancing. I've never seen it either. You've never seen Zoolander? No.

[Michael McCoy]

I don't know what trap is.

[Jack Posobiec]

They're like non heterosexual male models.

[Michael McCoy]

Yeah, I don't know what trap is. I've never seen Zoolander. What else?

[Tyler Boyer]

No, no, I will say that. I actually just appreciate that.

[Jack Posobiec]

I think bro shopping is totally with both.

[Michael McCoy]

Did.

[Jack Posobiec]

Now, did you all get Boba? Did you share one? Did you have, like, one Boba with multiple straws? How did it go?

[Michael McCoy]

We did each get our own, so I think that's a little less homo.

[Jack Posobiec]

But did you share?

[Blake Neff]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Jack Posobiec]

You know what they say. Drinks another man's boba.

[Michael McCoy]

Never heard this.

[Tyler Boyer]

I'm going to be. I'm gonna be straight up.

[Blake Neff]

I think.

[Tyler Boyer]

I think Boba is right in there. And again, I'm not saying this to be offensive. I'm sorry, Blake, I know you like Boba, but, like, I just think Boba is, like, right up there with Lord of the Rings, like in questionable.

[Blake Neff]

What?

[Jack Posobiec]

Questionable.

[Blake Neff]

What do you mean?

[Michael McCoy]

Lord of the Rings is questionable?

[Blake Neff]

Tyler thinks Lord of the Rings is the gayest thing in the world.

[Michael McCoy]

Oh, actually, I watched Lord of The Rings for the first time ever with.

[Blake Neff]

Charlie, Lord of the Rings is super straight. This is not. It is not.

[Tyler Boyer]

You watch Lord of the Rings with.

[Michael McCoy]

Charlie for the first time ever. And it was when we were in Florida, Palm beach, and where I walk in, he was on Shabbat and he was like, hey, do you have Advil or something? I was like, yeah, I have some. And I brought it to his room and I was like, what are you doing? He's like, watching Lord of the Rings. I go, I've never seen it.

[Jack Posobiec]

He goes, you've never seen it?

[Michael McCoy]

And he just freaked out. He's like, sit down right now. And so for the next, like, six hours, we watched two of the movies.

[Tyler Boyer]

When was this?

[Michael McCoy]

Wait, like, this was like over the months ago? Yeah, this was. This was in, like, December.

[Blake Neff]

It's really hard for me to imagine.

[Tyler Boyer]

After we argued about this.

[Blake Neff]

Probably after, I think, December.

[Tyler Boyer]

So wait, so Lord of the Rings, Charlie was proactively watching Lord of the Rings maybe in response to us arguing about the.

[Michael McCoy]

Probably is what it was because he never watched movies ever. When we were traveling and out of nowhere, he turns on this three hour film.

[Tyler Boyer]

No, we had a full argument. Argument about. Is Lord of the Rings actually a gay ballad?

[Jack Posobiec]

This is. Now, for the record, this was like one of the episode. This was one of the few episodes that I was not on. And we got a huge fight over it.

[Tyler Boyer]

It was like a big.

[Jack Posobiec]

I would be with Blake because I don't think that Lord of the Rings is gay. I. I just don't.

[Michael McCoy]

It's epic.

[Tyler Boyer]

Google it. Ask it.

[Michael McCoy]

No, I remember, but it's.

[Jack Posobiec]

It's not gay. It's just not gay. Because, like, there's. There's people who want to, like, read all this stuff into it, and they do it with, like, ancient, you know, you know, you know, mythological stories and ancient history and things. Oh, this guy was definitely gay because, look, they were friends. And it's like, no, that's not true at all. Lord of the Rings. Lord of the Rings is not gay.

[Tyler Boyer]

Yeah.

[Blake Neff]

And you know, Frodo, if it was.

[Tyler Boyer]

Made today, it would have been.

[Blake Neff]

Frodo gets a mithril vest as he's on the journey. So in a sense, Lord of the rings is a 100% story straight male shopping journey.

[Michael McCoy]

Well turned against me.

[Jack Posobiec]

They're like, it is gay, Jack.

[Blake Neff]

No, I don't. I told you in all seriousness, I am stand. I must stand in the breach against the. The like, gay ification of 100% straight American cultural touchstones.

[Tyler Boyer]

Yeah.

[Blake Neff]

Like Lord of the Rings.

[Michael McCoy]

I'm with you. But ChatGPT says it can absolute. Absolutely resonate through a homo rhetoric.

[Blake Neff]

They do that with everything. They do that with everyone. They do that with Shakespeare. They do that with Abraham Lincoln.

[Tyler Boyer]

Well, Shakespeare is very good.

[Blake Neff]

No, no, he's not. Shakespeare is super straight.

[Tyler Boyer]

No, Shakespeare has a lot of gayness around it.

[Katie Porter (clip speaker)]

What?

[Blake Neff]

That's not true. Also, DJ Gallowitz donated and said. I was literally just getting on the chat to say I feel like this is heading towards Lord of the Rings. Oh, did it ever.

[Jack Posobiec]

Oh, why do you think everything is gay other than bro shopping? You're like, he's like, Boba's gay. Lord of the Rings gay Shakespeare.

[Tyler Boyer]

No, that's how this came up. That is how this get. Wait. First off, Shakespeare's sexuality is constantly a topic of debate.

[Blake Neff]

I just know it's only a topic because, like, people.

[Tyler Boyer]

But I'll tell you why. Boba's gay. A little bit.

[Jack Posobiec]

All right.

[Tyler Boyer]

A little bit.

[Jack Posobiec]

All right. Give us the boba take.

[Tyler Boyer]

First off, men shouldn't drink with straws.

[Blake Neff]

Why?

[Michael McCoy]

Okay, no, yeah, that's. That's offensive to Charlie. Charlie had this rule where he would only drink a iced cold drink with a straw.

[Tyler Boyer]

Well, no, I'm not saying. I'm. I'm not saying that.

[Blake Neff]

Tyler's just calling Charlie gay.

[Michael McCoy]

No, you calling Charlie.

[Tyler Boyer]

Here's what. Here's what I have a problem with when it comes to Boba. You shouldn't have a straw drink as a dude, where you're, like, trying to suck these, like, things through the straw. Like, that's just a weird look. It's, like, not good. Like, you can't look at a dude, like, drinking a straw. Be like, that is. That is a very straight activity. That's not a straight activity. It's just not about.

[Jack Posobiec]

So what about, like, a root?

[Tyler Boyer]

Like, sucking, like, those balls to the straw?

[Katie Porter (clip speaker)]

How do you.

[Jack Posobiec]

Wait, no, no, Tyler, how do you drink?

[Tyler Boyer]

I've watched people doing. I'm like, that is really.

[Michael McCoy]

What show am I on?

[Tyler Boyer]

It's weird. It's just weird. It's not straight. It's not. It's weird.

[Jack Posobiec]

That's ice cream with the straw.

[Tyler Boyer]

Yeah. I think trying to suck, you know, a shake through a straw is also weird. You should use a spoon, like, the.

[Michael McCoy]

Small straws, just for, like, soda. Like a.

[Tyler Boyer]

Like that. Like, that's, like, a weird look. That's, like, not okay. It's. I'm just warning you.

[Jack Posobiec]

Don't do it.

[Tyler Boyer]

You look weird.

[Jack Posobiec]

It's not with you. The chat is not with you.

[Blake Neff]

I'm not looking delicious.

[Jack Posobiec]

It takes a secure man to enjoy some boba.

[Michael McCoy]

Yeah, that's.

[Blake Neff]

Yeah, I'm seeing that.

[Jack Posobiec]

I love straws. I could suck a milkshake through a straw.

[Tyler Boyer]

We went down. That's the great.

[Jack Posobiec]

That's the Paul Thomas Anderson. Right?

[Tyler Boyer]

We went down milkshake.

[Blake Neff]

Yeah. So circle back to.

[Tyler Boyer]

All right, so I won the chat on Lord of the Rings, but not.

[Jack Posobiec]

You have an icy. Is there something wrong with drinking icy now?

[Tyler Boyer]

No, icy's fine. That's fine. You have to get ice.

[Blake Neff]

Straw to drink boba.

[Tyler Boyer]

I'm not completely anti straw the topic. Do not change the topic. Sounds like boba is not all there.

[Blake Neff]

All right, Like, I will point out, like, the way you have it at a proper place, they seal the whole cup and you like, you have stab it with the big straw. That feels like a pretty hoorah, like.

[Tyler Boyer]

Military way stabbing parts.

[Blake Neff]

Yeah, stabbing is great.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah.

[Tyler Boyer]

Stabbing the straw.

[Michael McCoy]

Yeah.

[Blake Neff]

See, I remember.

[Jack Posobiec]

I remember like I'd be in China like almost 20 years ago, and that's where I first started drinking it. And they called it. They call it bubble tea over there, sir. Or pearl bubble tea. Like Genju Naita bubble. Bubble milk tea. And you know, it's. It was like super popular on campus. Like everybody would have it. I think it started in Taiwan. I'm not sure. I was having it in Shanghai. And it's just kind of normal. Like everybody had it. It's fine.

[Michael McCoy]

D. Good. 2020 says everything's. Charlie would be telling you guys to get back on topic.

[Blake Neff]

He probably would. So let's go back. Let's go back to the big topic of emphasis on big. We have Katie Porter. Katie Porter. So we're getting like all the. The knives out for Katie, which that's what I really love about this is.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yes, ever.

[Blake Neff]

So people are resurfacing. This is a profile of her from 2023, where the Washington Post just found some staffers of her and they were all terrified to even say anything. This is a direct quote from. This is an article by Dan Zak, 2023, in the Washington Post about Porter. Here we get into tricky territory. My chat with the ex staffer was revealing. It prompted me to reach out to others. Four people, each formerly in Porter's employ or orbit. That's what it says. Four people in her orbit told me about upsetting experiences working for her that spanned her first three and a half years in Congress. Three additional former staffers told similar stories to one of my Washington Post Colleagues. But to define the credibility of these seven sources or to specify their allegations of bad bossness is to give away their identities, which they do not want. Nobody wants to go public in ways they might regret. So we. In three and a half years in Congress as a House member, House members don't have that big of a staff. There are seven different people who had testimony who were willing to speak to reporters about how bad of a boss, you know, get out of my shot. Katie Porter was. And now they like. And now they're making her this rising star of the party. It's. It's actually. It's really hilarious.

[Tyler Boyer]

You can't really call yourself a man and vote for Katie Porter.

[Blake Neff]

Well, luckily, she's running in California.

[Tyler Boyer]

That's what I'm saying. But I'm saying in California, like, no man can vote for Katie Porter.

[Michael McCoy]

Yeah. I think Tony Atkins is running, too. And they look. They kind of look alike.

[Tyler Boyer]

She's going to win, though. She's going to win the Democrat nomination.

[Michael McCoy]

Yeah. Tony Hacking.

[Blake Neff]

They don't even have nominations anymore.

[Jack Posobiec]

It's the jungle.

[Michael McCoy]

Whoa.

[Tyler Boyer]

But. But it's basically. It's basically going to be. It's Democrat versus Republican always in the statewide because the. The Dems don't split each other enough. But this might be a moment where enough people get annoyed with her and dislike her enough, where she comes in the second place spot. It would be really cool if the Dems split each other enough in California. Got to a point where, you know, it becomes a real problem for their top two situation. It's probably not going to happen. But that's. I mean, Katie's bad. She's like a really bad candidate. Really ugly person inside.

[Jack Posobiec]

Amazing.

[Tyler Boyer]

She's a really ugly inside person.

[Jack Posobiec]

All right. I think that's about all we can say about that topic. We do need to move on because we have some more topics that we have to get. Who we talked about the halftime show. Do we want to talk about dogs?

[Blake Neff]

I think we should. I think we should hit that. So we. This is another one that we hit recently, but it's really one more.

[Jack Posobiec]

Maybe one more topic tonight.

[Blake Neff]

I think. I think we should hit this. I think. I think Charlie would be into this. He would be really into the. The meta stuff about this. So this is Hassan Piker, who would have been debating Charlie at Dartmouth two weeks ago. Uh, we were looking forward to that one. I'm very, genuinely, very sad we'll never get to see it. But Hassan Piker, he's been touted as the left's Joe Rogan answer. He's been touted as the left's Charlie Kirk actually in one very dumb NPR segment. But he's getting in trouble because. We'll play the clip here. Uh, let's play 129 of all of.

[Michael McCoy]

America's much more consequential violence. OK? It's the same reason as to why America. Kaia, please, just go. Just stop. Jesus Christ. What are you doing? You're being such a baby.

[Tyler Boyer]

Using the Lord's name in vain. Don't love to hear that.

[Blake Neff]

Yeah, well, he's from Turkey Points, but yeah. So for those who can't tell what's going on, it appears his dog, which he wanted to just be parked in the background for his entire eight hour stream, I guess it tried to move up towards him. And so he reaches to something and it appears he triggers a shock collar on the dog to zap it like you would with an invisible fence. And a lot of people are not liking this at all. I think if there is one great constant in America, it's a lot of normal Americans. They like dogs. And I think they would even say that hurting, hurting a dog is more revealing of your character to a lot of people than like hurting a human or any other view you might hold. People, people really like dogs. And Hasan does not like dogs, apparently.

[Michael McCoy]

Well, first I just want to like give that dog a pet, you know, I feel so bad. Anyways, this person saying he's from Turkey, what does that have to do with it?

[Blake Neff]

Well, so. Well, he's from an Islamic country. Like we were saying. It's not.

[Jack Posobiec]

They don't.

[Blake Neff]

Like he was taking the Lord's name.

[Jack Posobiec]

In vain because our dogs. Yeah. How are dogs treated in, across the Middle East?

[Tyler Boyer]

Well, they eat. They eat them a lot.

[Blake Neff]

No, no, no, not in the Middle East. They eat them.

[Tyler Boyer]

They for sure eat them.

[Jack Posobiec]

I don't think they eat them.

[Blake Neff]

I don't think they do that. They eat them in like East Asia, like Vietnam eats dogs.

[Tyler Boyer]

In Russia, they kill dogs and turn them into hats and they eat them. And it's not the Russians doing it.

[Blake Neff]

Are you sure about that one? I've never heard of that. Now you could.

[Jack Posobiec]

You mean like Asians in Korea there.

[Tyler Boyer]

Are like, I'm not gonna name which, which people that, that have immigrated into Russia do that. But I'm 100. They talk about it. They, when I was there, they would openly talk about. They'd be like, oh, yeah. They'd be like, this isn't real. Whatever fur. They'd be like, that's dog fur.

[Blake Neff]

You gotta just.

[Tyler Boyer]

Those guys ate it. And then they make into hats and they sell on the. In the. In the bazaar. So now.

[Blake Neff]

Now I'm looking at the map. Okay? It is. It is legal to eat dogs.

[Tyler Boyer]

They eat dogs in the Middle East.

[Blake Neff]

The Middle East.

[Tyler Boyer]

It's just the thing. It's not.

[Jack Posobiec]

But isn't. It isn't dog considered haram?

[Blake Neff]

I don't know.

[Jack Posobiec]

So, like, depending on. I feel like depending on, like, how. How, you know, Islamic. A certain country is.

[Blake Neff]

Well, Saudi Arabia is legal or considered haram. It says, I want to be.

[Tyler Boyer]

I want to be fair, too. Because you said something. Hassan Piker was born in New Jersey, which is basically the Middle east. But it's not.

[Michael McCoy]

Okay.

[Blake Neff]

Apparently.

[Tyler Boyer]

I'm just kidding. My wife's from New Jersey.

[Michael McCoy]

What?

[Jack Posobiec]

And I'll be in. By the way, I'll be in New Jersey tomorrow for the. For Jack Cittarelli. We're holding a. A rally out there for him getting involved in that race with. With. With Benny, with Scott Pressler, with Cliff Maloney. So anyone out there is watching this live. Please come on out. North Wildwood Seaport. We're going to be there. And full security for drones will be there. And hope to see you too, apparently, as well as a visual for Charlie.

[Tyler Boyer]

Yeah. Well, apparently American.

[Blake Neff]

Apparently all carnivorous animals are haram in Islam. Or like carnivorous animals with fangs. So wolves, dogs.

[Tyler Boyer]

I just learned something.

[Michael McCoy]

Thank you, Blake.

[Tyler Boyer]

So that's why they eat them.

[Blake Neff]

So I'm surprised. Apparently, I've seen a map which says it's legal in Saudi Arabia. But that surprises me because Saudi Arabia is usually.

[Tyler Boyer]

I'm telling you, I've been in places where they've said certain cultures. I'm not going to name which cultures. They. They pointed directly at the people and they said, that guy eats all the dogs. And then he turns them into hats. I was there. They pointed at a guy. They're like, that guy. And I'll never forget it. They pointed at the guy. And that shouldn't be okay in America. That's why you're seeing some brutality. However, Hassan is from New Jersey.

[Michael McCoy]

Yeah.

[Blake Neff]

And there needs to be New Jersey.

[Tyler Boyer]

And New Jersey needs to be won back from the dog haters. American dog lovers need to take back New Jersey. Vote for Jack.

[Michael McCoy]

This could be a campaign.

[Tyler Boyer]

And say no to Hasan and his breed of people who attack dogs. Like the way that he has Hassan putting a shock collar on that poor little dog. Terrible. Treating it the way that he's treated it. Terrible.

[Blake Neff]

I Do think there is something to this idea? It's very funny because Piker said a lot of unhinged things. He said his favorite flag is the Hezbollah flag. We have that clip if we want to play it. Yeah, he actually did say that. Yeah. Actually, let's just play it 136. Oh.

[Michael McCoy]

Let's talk about our favorite flags. Oh. Like, overall, what?

[Tyler Boyer]

My favorite flag?

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah.

[Michael McCoy]

Hezbollah. Look it up. Oh, I'm not even kidding. It's actually a dope flag.

[Blake Neff]

I don't know flags.

[Michael McCoy]

It's.

[Jack Posobiec]

This is a.

[Blake Neff]

You know what?

[Tyler Boyer]

I'm gonna be brave.

[Michael McCoy]

My favorite flag, it's got an AK.

[Blake Neff]

On it and a hand holding it up.

[Tyler Boyer]

Wow, son.

[Jack Posobiec]

Or. Or.

[Michael McCoy]

Or we might have to cut this. We're behind the paywall. It's fine.

[Blake Neff]

Hezbollah's flag looks kind of stupid, by the way. At a distance, it looks kind of like a oil rig or something.

[Michael McCoy]

Yeah, it does.

[Blake Neff]

And when you zoom in, it's got, like, a globe on it. It looks like, other than the AK that's on it, it kind of looks like some UN agency from the 70s.

[Katie Porter (clip speaker)]

But.

[Jack Posobiec]

But so beyond. Beyond all that, like, Blake. I want to get Blake in on this because. And. And by the way, for the record, even though, Yes, I lived in East Asia for two years, I have never knowingly eaten dog. I have no idea if I have or not, honestly, because sometimes you're in some places where it's better to not ask you for sure, and they're not going to tell you the truth anyway. But I've never knowingly. There were some people who sought it out when I would go over, but, you know, other, like, expats that went. I didn't. Blake, walk us through, though. What does it say about. Like. Like. Like, I grew up as a dog lover. My family grew up loving dogs, having dogs. Everyone, you know, almost everyone I know has, you know, either had a dog or had a pet. What does it say that there are people now coming into the country who hate dogs and are willing to mistreat dogs like this?

[Blake Neff]

You know, it really is. At a minimum, it is a microcosm of other changes that we can recognize. You know, there's a lot of, you know, norms in America that were kind of. We would say, we're traditionally American. Love of fair play, love of, like, good sportsmanship. Some of that stuff has fallen into abeyance. And also just attitude towards animals is actually a very traditional. It's one of our most. One of the most English parts of our heritage. The English historically loved animals so many of our favorite dog and horse and other animal breeds, they come from England. England had this rich tradition of animal husbandry and especially animals that are service animals. Like, look up, look up where your favorite dog breed was bred. And there's very good odds it came from the British Isles somewhere. The border Collie, I believe, was the border of, like, England and Scotland, probably, and stuff like that. And as a result, we also have this rich tradition of appreciating animals. We don't like the idea of, you know, slaughtering Fido to eat him. We don't like the idea of slaughtering Black Beauty to eat him either. And all the breeds of.

[Tyler Boyer]

Correct me if I'm wrong, you probably know all about this, and, you know, this is why I'm asking you and drinking this question. Europe is really the home for the. The creation of all these different breeds, right? So it's kind of like high society. It was like, what years were like, did that become, like, a thing where, like, they were trying to create all these different types of breeds of dogs and respecting them as, like, pets and including them on hunting, and they were, like, kind of just treated as high society animals?

[Jack Posobiec]

Probably. Probably like the. The 1800s, because. And even prior, because, like, 16.

[Tyler Boyer]

I feel like it was like, 15.

[Blake Neff]

16, if you want. If you want, you know, a fun name, a fun thing. There's actually an ancient text we have from. From ancient Greece, actually. It's called Sinageticus, and it's by Xenophon, ancient Greek guy. And it's basically translated as. Kind of is translated as related to hunting, but they'll sometimes say hunting with dogs. And he has a long list of names that he thinks are good names for dogs in it, some of which are, like, still around today. Let's see, he's got ones that translate. Killer Blazing Armor, Ranger. Ruler. Ravager, Eager Rage, Pride. I think my favorite, though, is Strong Boy. Strong Boy as a name for a dog.

[Michael McCoy]

Come here, Pride.

[Blake Neff]

Yeah. Edge Beam. Okay. Some of these actually sound like they're superheroes or something. Members of the X Men, but. And, like, we have. We have, like, ancient European accounts of, like, the loyalty of dogs. Oh, and of course, the Odyssey. Remember, Read the Odyssey.

[Michael McCoy]

Yes. Yeah.

[Blake Neff]

In the Odyssey, Odysseus returns home to Ithaca, and no one can recognize him but his faithful dog, which has been waiting for him to return for 20 years, that's recognizes his master and then, like, immediately expires. And so we've been getting emotional dog loyalty stuff in Western literature for literally 3,000 years.

[Jack Posobiec]

So. So by the way, one of my favorite pieces of this, though, that I was going to reference is you're. Are you familiar. You guys familiar with that, that breed of hunting dog called the borzoi? I don't know if that's how you say it. No, but they're so. And if you could pull up a, you know, maybe like a picture of it. So the borzoi, they're a Russian dog. And just anyone can go and Google why are there so few Borzoi? And just go look up this up in Google ChatGPT, wherever you want to go, whatever AI you want, and you look it up. Why are there so few Borzoi? And it says there are so few. Few Borzois. Because the Russian Revolution led to the mass slaughter of the dogs due to their association with the aristocracy. The breed went nearly extinct, surviving only in a few kennels and though. And through dogs that have been exported to other countries. So because they were bred as the noble Russian hunting dogs and were considered a symbol of the aristocracy during the Bolshevik Revolution, the Bolsheviks would just slaughter the dogs. So I don't even know how many tens of thousands of these dogs were just killed. Obviously, like they're a dog. They have nothing to do with, with upholding, you know, quote unquote, patriarchy or monarchy or any of the things they're fighting against. But this is what the Marxists would do. They would go so far as to slaughter the dogs that were considered like the dogs of the Romanovs. And this is how insane and disgusting the Bolsheviks were that they literally killed these dogs almost into extinction.

[Blake Neff]

And someone.

[Jack Posobiec]

It's one of the craziest facts that I've ever. I mean, there's so many crazy things about the insane atrocities of the Bolsheviks, but that one has always stuck with me.

[Blake Neff]

The chat also points out Proverbs 12:10. And the Bible says the righteous care for the needs of their animals, but the kindest acts of the wicked are cruel.

[Tyler Boyer]

No, we, we always talked about, when we are in Boy Scouts, we always had a couple of things that we do at church and we would talk about, you know, treating other people with dignity and respect and everything else. And we would always add on because we always talked about treating women and children with respect, but then also small animals. We always added that. That's right, it is because you should, like, again, the number one thing that's an identifier of someone with really, that has like, really dark, really bad places is that they kill small animals that they mess around.

[Blake Neff]

That's like a I think that's even a serial killer tell. That's a serious stuff when you're a child. And it's like the triad of things that, you know, might make you a. Grow a psychopath or whatever when you grow up. And two of them I know are if you have pyromania as a kid and then I think also if you have a history of cruelty to animals, like they would torture animals when they were children. You know, I think a lot of kids mess around with like ants or something, but with actual small, you know, cats, dogs, rats, raccoons, stuff like that.

[Michael McCoy]

Wow.

[Jack Posobiec]

And so there's also something too because like when you're, you know, like, like a mammal, right? And you know, I think in high school you, you have to do the, you know, we did like the fetal pig, the autopsy and things like that. But you know, the cat autopsy and you know, but, but when you're doing it to an animal that's already alive, or I should say still alive when you're, when you're torturing that the closer you get to something that resembles like a human, it's, it's. The more disgusting it is. And you know, again, just I think about these dogs that were tortured during the Bolshevik revolution and you think like, what kind of a monster does that? Just because they want to cause pain. They know it causes pain. And dogs are very obviously high, you know, high consciousness animals. And so to do something that you, you want to cause pain in the dog, it's, it's, it's monstrous. It's absolutely monstrous. And so, you know, look, this is something where I think you've actually seen like a lot of people on the left and the right. Just call this out because it's, it's, you know, and he, Blake, he had a response, right?

[Blake Neff]

Yes, he did. Let's get that one up here. One moment. His response. Let's play that. It is 131.

[Michael McCoy]

This is the one that people are talking about, OK? This is the one. This is the, this is the one that they saw. It has the capacity to vibrate and that's it. Are you happy? It has the capacity to vibrate and that's it. This person is being abusive. If they only saw that clip, it doesn't matter. And this will not go away. For the record.

[Blake Neff]

Dude, I hadn't seen that.

[Tyler Boyer]

That's amazing. Hassan Piker hates dogs.

[Michael McCoy]

He does.

[Jack Posobiec]

Wait, I just couldn't. Where I'm, where I'm sitting, I couldn't, I couldn't read. But the screenshot say can you guys.

[Michael McCoy]

What it was zooming in on, on the electrical shock.

[Blake Neff]

It had like electrical tape on it and they were. They were showing some like product description that made it clear it actually was.

[Tyler Boyer]

Electrical, to be fair.

[Jack Posobiec]

Vibrating collars.

[Michael McCoy]

Yes. That's a thing to be fair.

[Tyler Boyer]

Shock collars. I completely. I'm not saying that they're. They're wrong. I think they like if you have a big dog and you let them out to run around like on big.

[Michael McCoy]

Landscape, they're going to run in the.

[Blake Neff]

Shape or for their own safety. You have an electrical and invisible fence around your home.

[Tyler Boyer]

So they're running the road or nobody.

[Jack Posobiec]

But there's.

[Blake Neff]

You should. There's force to protect your dog and then there's zap your dog because it's walking out of your like preferred frame shot on your eight hour license.

[Tyler Boyer]

This is a Pomeranian, isn't it? This is a Pomeranian. Why you.

[Michael McCoy]

Shut up, Pomeranian. A Pomeranian is very big. I mean, very small.

[Jack Posobiec]

No, this is the same thing as Katie Porter. It's like, it's like her screaming at the staffer with like, she wants to put a shot collar on her staffers saying, like, you need to get out of my shot. You're ruining my shot. You're ruining my shot. It's the same mentality. You're ruining my shot. My shot needs a dog. The dog has to be right here. That's the shot. It's the exact same thing.

[Tyler Boyer]

I thought Hasan's dog was a Pomeranian.

[Blake Neff]

I have no idea. I don't know. Dog.

[Michael McCoy]

No.

[Jack Posobiec]

That's way bigger than a Pomeranian.

[Tyler Boyer]

No.

[Jack Posobiec]

Where was it?

[Michael McCoy]

Do in life is a series of choices.

[Tyler Boyer]

Is that not it walking in the background?

[Blake Neff]

Dude, Pomeranians are like this big.

[Michael McCoy]

It looks like a chow. No, it's not.

[Jack Posobiec]

The palms are like way smaller.

[Michael McCoy]

That's not Pomeranian.

[Blake Neff]

That is not a Pomeranian.

[Tyler Boyer]

That's a tiny. What are you talking about?

[Blake Neff]

That's like. It's on like a treadmill in the background.

[Tyler Boyer]

That's not.

[Blake Neff]

That's it.

[Tyler Boyer]

I think you're a tiny dog.

[Blake Neff]

I think you're mistaken on how.

[Tyler Boyer]

Oh, I thought it was like on the desk right next.

[Blake Neff]

No, no.

[Michael McCoy]

Oh.

[Blake Neff]

Oh.

[Tyler Boyer]

I. This entire time I thought he was shocking a Pomeranian.

[Jack Posobiec]

Wait, Peter PETA has released a statement.

[Tyler Boyer]

I see it. All right.

[Michael McCoy]

Oh, my gosh.

[Tyler Boyer]

It's like a. It's like a. What do they call those dogs?

[Katie Porter (clip speaker)]

I don't know.

[Tyler Boyer]

So put someone put in the chat. What's the dog? What's that? Kind of.

[Blake Neff]

Someone says a very overweight chow. Chow.

[Tyler Boyer]

Oh, it's still not a huge dog. It's clearly not like running around outside. He lives in like New York City, doesn't he?

[Blake Neff]

I have no idea he lives in the city. I just hope he doesn't live anywhere near me.

[Tyler Boyer]

It's not like that dog's running away. My whole point is I think he lives in the city. He like, lives like in an apartment, doesn't he?

[Michael McCoy]

He just wants in the shot. That's all he wants.

[Tyler Boyer]

So he puts a shock collar on his dog to not run out of his room.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, I guess.

[Michael McCoy]

And then his justification for it after the fact, he's like my dog. He, you know, she. She's just had the ability to walk all over my house. And now that I'm back in town, she shouldn't have be able to do that anymore.

[Jack Posobiec]

I'm looking it up. By the way. It's a. Some people are saying that, that the dog name is Kaya. Sounds like, I guess a girl.

[Michael McCoy]

They're saying chow chow.

[Jack Posobiec]

And no, they're actually saying part or, or mostly Tibetan mastiff.

[Tyler Boyer]

Yeah, that's a mastiff.

[Blake Neff]

That's an interesting mix. Yeah, I don't, I don't know dog breeds that well.

[Jack Posobiec]

I will not claim any Tibetan mastiff. So that's, that's, that's big. That's rare.

[Blake Neff]

My. I did not have a dog growing up. My family actually replaced me with a dog. True story. Like, I went to college and I hadn't encountered Charlie yet. I didn't know it was a scam. So I go to Charlie, I go to college, and all of a month later they replace me with an animal.

[Michael McCoy]

And wow, Blake.

[Blake Neff]

I think they liked the animal better than me, to be honest.

[Tyler Boyer]

So I got the down low here. Just googling it. Hasan Piker lives. He did live in la, so he.

[Blake Neff]

Oh, he's close to us then.

[Tyler Boyer]

So he does. He does have a house. I don't like that he does have a house. So he doesn't live in an apartment. So I'm going to recant that statement. I thought he lived in like the city or whatever. Years ago, I think when Charlie debated, I feel like he said something about living in the city or something.

[Jack Posobiec]

I can't remember.

[Michael McCoy]

Just for clarification, this is what a Pomeranian looks like. I sent them.

[Jack Posobiec]

The Pomeranian is not.

[Tyler Boyer]

That's not what a Pomeranian.

[Michael McCoy]

That is a Pomeranian.

[Blake Neff]

That is what Tyler thought the dog was.

[Tyler Boyer]

No, I mean, to be fair, I thought it looked like it. That's not what a normal Pomeranian looks like. A normal Pomeranian looks like this.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yes, it is.

[Blake Neff]

That's exactly what that is. The same appearance of dog. That's just a slightly different color from here.

[Tyler Boyer]

I was. I haven't seen that clip before we got on the show of Hassan. So I'm. I only have a tiny little screen that's like 10ft away from me. And it looked like it was a desk return.

[Blake Neff]

Do you need, like, vision? Correct.

[Tyler Boyer]

No, I have actually great vision. I just was like, it doesn't look.

[Blake Neff]

Like a palm to me, and I'm equally distant from it.

[Tyler Boyer]

No, from here, if you look from about 10ft away, it looks like that's a desk return and a Pomeranian walking next to him.

[Blake Neff]

I have taken off my corrective lenses, and I still don't think it's a Pomeranian. Tyler.

[Tyler Boyer]

Whatever. Lord of the Rings is still gay. This is not.

[Michael McCoy]

And straws, I guess.

[Tyler Boyer]

And having Pomeranians.

[Blake Neff]

Yeah, I like. I like the horseshoe shoe of getting this back to, you know. You know, ruining the shot with Hassan. Ruining the shot with Katie. It's a good way to. To horseshoe back to. We have to horseshoe back to another. A thing we forgot to mention with. With our. Our friend Katie, which is. We have text messages, 3:57 if you want to put them on screen. But she, like, went nuts and fired a staffer over. Over COVID protocol. So I'll. I'll read this.

[Jack Posobiec]

No, I remember when this happened. This is.

[Blake Neff]

Why did you not follow office protocol on testing? It's really disappointing. And the staffer says, I'm terribly sorry. You're right. I should have done better. Just because I felt okay in the moment doesn't mean that I was. And then she replies the following day, Blake, can you.

[Jack Posobiec]

Can you do Katie's voice in the. In the metal voice?

[Blake Neff]

Okay, Sasha, I cannot allow you back in the office, given your failure to follow office policies. Cody will be in touch about having your personal effects shipped or delivered to your home and will lay out your remote work schedule for your last few weeks. And then the staffer replies, I understand. Thank you for the last two years and all that I have learned. I hate to have disappointed you in this manner, as I know it isn't an excuse. I had found out my friend from the Navy had been murdered and. And my head was not in the best place. That is not an excuse, but the reasoning for my lack of forethought. I appreciate everything this office has done for me. And she replies to this. My friend was murdered. I apologize. You gave me Covid in 25 months. It took you not following the rules. To get me sick. My children have nobody to care for them. Which on top of that, like, I guess she's not able to get a babysitter or something to help. Maybe she ran, scared all of them away or ate all of the babysitters, something like that. Both are possible.

[Jack Posobiec]

What a. The way they text future governor. So performative and like just. Just over the top and disgusting and larping and theater kid like Harry Potter speak. It's. It's. It's everywhere, man. This is. This is like the Glee kids again. And that, man, I remember talking about with Charlie, it's like that was the perfect. We totally got this. It was Glee and High School Musical and the Harry Potter all mixed together. And that's where you get like the Katie Porters and the Jen Psakis and all of this, like, phenotype that constantly comes out. They're always potato shaped. Not a lie. It's also not an insult. It's just true. Just true. They just look like potatoes. They're potato people. And the potato people all come from this exact same place and somehow are like in massive leadership roles all throughout the Democrat party and like HR departments everywhere.

[Blake Neff]

You know, Katie. Katie Porter was from kind of the same part of the country as Tim Walls. Not. Not from Minnesota, but like from. I think she's from northern Iowa.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, Tim Wall's another potato person.

[Tyler Boyer]

She looks like.

[Jack Posobiec]

Obviously she looks like.

[Tyler Boyer]

She looks like she's from north of the border, you know, not.

[Jack Posobiec]

Whoa.

[Michael McCoy]

Canadian. Whoa.

[Blake Neff]

Let's not. Let's not say things we can't take back, even about our. Our opponents.

[Tyler Boyer]

No, like a liberal. A liberal Canadian. A very liberal conservative. Canadians are great. They're attractive, fun, whatever. Actually, I had a really great phone call with the. The best of the best in Canada and Alberta Premier Danielle Smith today, who's incredible conservative Canadians are great. She. She looks like a lib Canadian, actually.

[Jack Posobiec]

By the way, I'm. I'm pulling something up here. According to Newsweek, she. According to news. So Newsweek had this article up and I was looking at the polls in. In California because people kept saying that she looked like she was going to, you know, at least win the primary. And this isn't a primary poll, but it's a general election poll. There is a new poll out by Zogby that says that, yes, Katie Porter is beating the other Democrats. She is actually behind Steve Hilton, our. Our friend Steve Hilton, who has been running as a Republican. And she's losing. She's behind him by six points. So she's at. Yeah, it says she is at home.

[Blake Neff]

Where is it?

[Jack Posobiec]

He's at 29 and she's at 23 in a general election and another 23% say undecided. That's crazy. So Steve Hill. So maybe we actually should be supporting Katie Porter right now. Guys, we may have had this completely wrong.

[Michael McCoy]

She's beatable is what you're saying.

[Jack Posobiec]

I'm saying that the. The potato may be baked.

[Blake Neff]

I think. Do we have anything else to say about that?

[Michael McCoy]

I got nothing.

[Jack Posobiec]

No, I'm just saying we should be. I think we should activate. Guys. Guys. All right, all right. We're doing it again. We're going rogue. Turning Point USA goes in. We go all in.

[Blake Neff]

All in.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, Turning point action on the. On Tyler. What do you say we go all in for Katie Porter? We should be like chasing ballots for action.

[Tyler Boyer]

I was tweeted. I just tweeted. Katie Porter is the only person in California history that makes me want to move to awful commie California just to vote against her.

[Blake Neff]

Against her.

[Tyler Boyer]

Like she's the first person that makes me.

[Blake Neff]

You guys are way more self sacrificial on this point.

[Michael McCoy]

I. I changed my voting from California to Arizona. Yeah.

[Tyler Boyer]

To vote for good.

[Michael McCoy]

Maybe I should switch back.

[Tyler Boyer]

No, don't, don't do that.

[Michael McCoy]

It's not that.

[Blake Neff]

It's not that I would. You guys want to.

[Tyler Boyer]

We need you for Andy Biggs.

[Blake Neff]

But the last thing I'm going to do is move closer to something controlled by Katie Porter.

[Tyler Boyer]

Katie Porter is. As governor is going to be.

[Blake Neff]

Just imagine. Imagine get out of my shot, lady. As the governor of a state with 40 million people.

[Tyler Boyer]

Mom. Donnie in New York and Katie Porter in California. Like that is disgusting. Like that.

[Jack Posobiec]

I'm telling you, bro, there's something about her where it's like, guys, she's beatable. She's totally beatable. We need.

[Tyler Boyer]

What do you mean? There's something about her. Look at her for two seconds. It's like that. Is that. Look at. I mean, just look at that. There is. There's no, like in. In terms of like the youths. Right? Like that is. She is getting swiped left. You know, that was the swipe left all day long. Swipe, swipe, swipe, swipe left. Nobody likes her. There's no way you can look at her. There's no male in California that can look at that and go, I think I'm gonna vote for that. There's no way. I just don't believe it. There's no way. There just needs to be one campaign, a really simple campaign which is men. You cannot disrespect yourself enough to actually vote for that. Vote for anything else. Anything, anyone else, just not that she.

[Jack Posobiec]

Absolutely horrific. I don't know if we have any other words of wisdom here, but I think on that note, we might have to. Might have to close it up for the night. So remember, by the way, make sure you are keeping subscribed to the podcast here. Thought crime will continue. We'll go. Go around the room. But first, the website again for the American halftime show. It's American halftime show dot com. We are not going to be watching the sporting event. We are going to be watching the all American halftime show, presented in 100% English, including Blake Neff's heavy metal stylings will also be completely in English because he's singing the songs of British acts.

[Blake Neff]

Whatever you say, Jack.

[Jack Posobiec]

Never surrender. Let's go around. Let's go around. Tell everyone. Everyone shout out where they can follow you, Blake.

[Blake Neff]

Oh, I have. I have joined the X mines now. So I am at Blake Snef or just Blake Neff on X. You can find me if you really. If you're a glutton for punishment like that.

[Tyler Boyer]

Blake has, like a ton of followers now, by the way. He got. He started.

[Michael McCoy]

Blake's big.

[Tyler Boyer]

Blake's huge. Blake's like blowing up.

[Jack Posobiec]

Blake's big in Japan.

[Blake Neff]

Not. Not in that way, though.

[Tyler Boyer]

Not. Not like the Katie Porter.

[Jack Posobiec]

Someone. Someone else whose social media has been exploding. Mr. Mikey McCoy.

[Tyler Boyer]

Well, Mikey. Mikey's doing okay on X. On Instagram, he's like, famous.

[Michael McCoy]

It's pretty crazy.

[Jack Posobiec]

His Instagram is insane. I look at it, I'm like, man, how do I. How do I get that kind of juice?

[Tyler Boyer]

And it's 90 moms.

[Michael McCoy]

It's like, yeah, the moms, you know?

[Jack Posobiec]

Oh, it's all moms.

[Michael McCoy]

It's my demographic.

[Tyler Boyer]

So Mikey's pull. Yeah, that you're 232,000. You went from, like. How many did you. How many did you.

[Michael McCoy]

I had 3000.

[Tyler Boyer]

Oh, my gosh.

[Michael McCoy]

Yeah, I did a little joke. Mikey McCoy, Instagram, Mike Michael, underscore McCoy on X. Yeah, you need to call it.

[Jack Posobiec]

No one should be following Tyler. It's.

[Blake Neff]

It's.

[Jack Posobiec]

It's really just an exercise in futility. I would. I would. I would strongly recommend against following Tyler.

[Tyler Boyer]

I'm the opposite as Mikey on. I have a X. Just follow me at X. Just Tyler Boyer at Tyler Boyer.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, Tyler. By the way, Tyler, I've been keeping an eye on your ex replies, and I will notice, like, sometimes if I'm on the east coast, and I get up at, like, 6am I'll be like. It'll be like, Tyler Boyer still posting. They posted five minutes ago. And he's, like, replying to some. I don't know, some Tyler. It's like some random thing Tyler is.

[Michael McCoy]

Posting while doing the show.

[Tyler Boyer]

That's right.

[Blake Neff]

I think he's made, like, four tweets since it started.

[Tyler Boyer]

I do that. No, I usually comment about what we're talking about while we're on the show. It makes it interactive.

[Michael McCoy]

Yeah.

[Tyler Boyer]

And then people.

[Jack Posobiec]

I comment about the show.

[Michael McCoy]

You did.

[Jack Posobiec]

I'm mostly just tweeting crap about Tyler and Blake, though.

[Michael McCoy]

No man in California should vote for Katie Porter. Tweet from Tyler.

[Blake Neff]

Oh, no, wait.

[Jack Posobiec]

I also tweeted that Mikey with Blake, because that's just.

[Michael McCoy]

No, you didn't.

[Jack Posobiec]

I definitely did. Yeah.

[Michael McCoy]

Thing, man.

[Jack Posobiec]

Bro shopping is definitely not a thing.

[Tyler Boyer]

And bro shopping is the intro to Zoolander. Just watch it.

[Jack Posobiec]

It is the entry to Zoolander.

[Michael McCoy]

All right.

[Jack Posobiec]

All right, ladies and gentlemen, go out there and commit more thought crime.

[Michael McCoy]

Thought crime is death.